In this episode of The Evernest Property Management Show, Spencer and Matthew sit down with longtime friend and recruiter, Dylan Scroggins — Founder of Kalmar Group and property management’s unofficial headhunter.

They cover:

Why your “founder story” doesn’t matter to an A-player (and what does)
The #1 role property managers get wrong when hiring
When it’s time to stop hiring from your network and start hiring like a pro
The Grinder: a brutal but brilliant interview technique that exposes true talent
Why most PMs think they need a “director” before they actually do
What great storytelling has to do with great recruiting
How to hire someone that makes you nervous (in the best way possible)
The mistake of confusing “good at lunch” with “good at the job”
How Nick Saban built a dynasty using recruiting as his superpower — and how PM owners can do the same
A step-by-step hiring process for teams under 500 doors (including the exact order of interviews)

Plus:

A hilarious origin story of the term “The Grinder”
Spencer and Matthew’s keys to finding, landing, and keeping A-players
Dylan’s worst reason to hire someone — and it’s one most PMs fall for

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Connect with Matt and Spencer at Evernest: Evernest.co

Guest: Dylan Scroggins, Founder of Kalmar Group | Meet Dylan on LinkedIn

Link: Connect with Evernest

Link: Evernest YouTube Channel (@ThreeHundredToThreeThousand) (Watch this episode and more!)

Visit the Podcast Website: Evernest.co/podcasts

Email the Show: podcast@evernest.co

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Production House: Flint Stone Media

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