Every Outfit Podcast Episode 216: Piper, No! An Ill-Advised Hotline Episode – Detailed Summary

Release Date: April 11, 2025
Hosts: Chelsea Fairless and Lauren Garone

1. Introduction and Missing Hosts (00:04 – 01:16)

In this pre-recorded episode, hosts Chelsea Fairless and Lauren Garone address the absence of Chelsea, who is out of town. They briefly touch upon the unwatched finale of The White Lotus, expressing anticipation and delayed reactions to its conclusion.

Lauren Garrone (00:27): "You may have noticed by the title that we are doing a hotline episode."

2. Celebrity Fashion Lines: Sarah Jessica Parker’s Bitten and Luggage Collection (01:16 – 07:46)

The episode delves into a listener’s inquiry about Sarah Jessica Parker’s lesser-known clothing line, Bitten, launched at Stephen Barry's mall store in the early 2000s. The hosts reminisce about the era when celebrities began mainstreaming affordable high-fashion collaborations.

Chelsea Fairless (02:55): "This was lodged so deep in my memory that I haven't thought about it since we started the Instagram account."

Lauren provides historical context, comparing Bitten to other celebrity collaborations like Stephen Sprouse for Target and Karl Lagerfeld for H&M, highlighting the shift towards accessible fashion.

Lauren Garrone (03:26): "While celebrities have had brands before, I think this was the era that really mainstreamed the idea that you could get something really high fashion from a kind of shitty mass market store."

Chelsea adds that Sarah Jessica Parker’s efforts with Bitten were part of her mission to make fashion more attainable, aligning with her personal ethos of authenticity.

Chelsea Fairless (04:34): "I genuinely feel like she does want, want to bring fashion to the average person."

3. Parker Posey’s Career and Memoir (12:06 – 16:45)

A listener requests insights on Parker Posey, prompting a deep dive into her illustrious career in independent films and her distinctive comedic style. The hosts recommend key films such as Dazed and Confused, Party Girl, and Waiting for Guffman, emphasizing her influence and versatility.

Lauren Garrone (12:22): "Now, I think the number one thing that you should know about Parker Posey is that she was in some of the most important and influential independent films from the 90s."

They also discuss her memoir, "You're on an Airplane," describing it as a whimsical blend of personal stories, how-to's, recipes, and collages, reflecting her creative spirit.

Lauren Garrone (16:19): "The book is full of not just personal stories, Chelsea, but whimsical how to's recipes and beautiful handmade collages created by the author herself."

4. Book Recommendations for Dark, Glamorous Fiction (17:20 – 20:50)

Listener Diara seeks recommendations for books with themes of tension, darkness, glamour, and psychological depth, akin to "My Year of Rest and Relaxation." The hosts suggest writers like Ottessa Moshfegh, Mary Gaitskill, Veronica, and Melissa Broder, highlighting their capacity to portray complex female experiences.

Lauren Garrone (18:05): "Perhaps Sex and Rage is a good place to start."

Chelsea emphasizes the importance of themes like female depression and unconventional sexuality in these narratives.

Chelsea Fairless (18:31): "All of Ottessa's books, I would read all of Mary Gaitskill's books."

5. Eva Mendes' Sponge Line and Skura Style Sponges (07:50 – 11:54)

A caller introduces the topic of Eva Mendes’ involvement with Skura Style’s sponge line, revealing her role in product development and marketing as a brand ambassador. The hosts critique the design aesthetics and functionality of these sponges, joking about their suitability and personal preferences.

Chelsea Fairless (10:10): "Ava discovered the company Skura Style, known for their sponges and what the brand calls their fade to change technology."

Lauren questions the technological advancement, while Chelsea humorously expresses disdain for the sponge's appearance.

Chelsea Fairless (11:05): "I like that, but the problem is I don't like the pattern."

6. Town and Country Magazine Evolution (57:00 – 24:45)

Caller Rosie shares her newfound appreciation for Town and Country Magazine, previously perceived as "stodgy blue-blooded." The hosts acknowledge the magazine’s transformation, praising its recent covers featuring figures like John Waters and its vibrant, playful content reminiscent of vintage magazines like Vogue and Elle.

Lauren Garrone (22:04): "It was delightful and just was wondering if you guys had any opinions on it."

Chelsea concurs, noting the magazine’s improved sense of humor and modern flair.

Chelsea Fairless (22:53): "I have bought a couple of issues in recent years. They did that really amazing cover with John Waters."

7. Eataly and Fine Grocery Shopping (24:38 – 27:31)

A caller questions why Eataly wasn’t discussed, prompting a discussion on high-end grocery stores. The hosts express their affinity for Eataly’s quality offerings but acknowledge its high pricing. They share personal anecdotes about shopping habits and the challenges of integrating luxury grocery shopping into daily routines.

Chelsea Fairless (25:12): "But I'm there to eat at one of their restaurants, not to grocery shop."

Lauren humorously suggests unconventional methods to incorporate Eataly purchases, like sneaking wine into movies.

Lauren Garrone (27:23): "You could look for the brand on the realreal as well."

8. Displaying a Barbie Collection: Etiquette and Tips (27:37 – 30:31)

Subaru Manhattan seeks advice on displaying a Barbie doll collection. The hosts share their own experiences, debating the appropriateness and aesthetic integration of Barbie displays in adult spaces. They offer creative solutions like integrating Barbies into bookshelves and rotating displays seasonally.

Chelsea Fairless (28:13): "I'm not most people, you know."

Lauren adds that the display can be curated to match home decor and seasonal themes.

Lauren Garrone (29:54): "You curate and rotate them per the seasons."

9. Dating Advice for Gay Men on Grindr and Relationship Struggles (30:58 – 35:13)

Maria from Brooklyn discusses her challenges with dating in her 30s as a gay man, particularly on Grindr, where she feels emotionally disconnected and encounters ethically problematic interactions. The hosts empathize, offering strategies such as expanding social networks beyond dating apps and fostering friendships as a pathway to meaningful relationships.

Lauren Garrone (34:10): "We need exclusivity on dating apps. If you are in an open marriage or open relationship looking for a third, get out of Hinge and Grindr."

Chelsea recommends leveraging social media to build connections.

Chelsea Fairless (35:53): "I think that friends of friends is the ideal scenario for meeting someone."

10. Revenge Tips: Wholesome yet Infuriating Ideas (37:00 – 40:40)

Jackie seeks subtle, non-malicious revenge tactics against her husband’s mistress. The hosts humorously brainstorm ideas inspired by the movie Amelie, balancing whimsy with annoyance. They caution against direct action, promoting the concept of internalizing revenge fantasies as a healthier alternative.

Lauren Garrone (38:43): "She did explain that unlike what movies and television have shown us, you rarely get to see the act of revenge happening."

Chelsea underscores the importance of allowing karma to take its course rather than seeking personal vengeance.

Chelsea Fairless (39:07): "Just because someone deserves revenge doesn't necessarily mean that you are the one that should bring it about."

11. Gala Outfit Shopping on a Budget (40:45 – 47:20)

Maria from Florida requests assistance in finding a chic gown for a fashion gala within a $500 budget. The hosts offer practical advice, recommending platforms like Norma Kamali’s website and The RealReal for affordable, high-quality options. They also discuss the importance of tailoring and shapewear to enhance fit and appearance.

Chelsea Fairless (42:16): "The first thing is Norma Kamali. Go to her website and search for gown."

Lauren emphasizes the value of second-hand shopping and strategic returns to maximize budget.

Lauren Garrone (43:46): "The RealReal is returnable. So buy a few things, return two of them."

12. The Hosts’ Smoking Journeys and Cessation (47:53 – 51:18)

A caller inquires about the hosts’ past smoking habits. Chelsea and Lauren candidly discuss the brands they've smoked, their experiences with quitting, and the challenges associated with various cessation methods. They share personal anecdotes, revealing vulnerability and offering relatable insights for listeners facing similar struggles.

Chelsea Fairless (48:20): "I've been on a journey with cigarette brands."

Lauren adds insights on nicotine patches and vapes as insufficient cessation tools.

Lauren Garrone (51:09): "If you're trying to quit smoking, you can't do it with a vape."

13. Sarah Jessica Parker’s SNL Hosting and New York Magazine Article (57:00 – 62:18)

A caller references an infamous New York Magazine article criticizing Sarah Jessica Parker’s (SJP) hosting of Saturday Night Live, labeling it one of the worst episodes. The hosts discuss SJP’s experience with SNL, her interactions with Lorne Michaels, and the broader implications of celebrity appearances on long-standing institutions like SNL.

Chelsea Fairless (58:04): "I didn't read the whole thing. I just searched Sarah Jessica Parker and skipped to the parts about Sarah Jessica Parker."

They analyze SJP’s portrayal and the reception of her hosting stint, concluding that the quality of the episode was more attributable to the sketches than SJP herself.

Lauren Garrone (59:17): "I think it's not Sarah Jessica Parker that made this bad. It is the sketches in the episode."

14. Taylor Swift's "Illicit Affairs" and Sex and the City Parallels (63:28 – 67:52)

Rebecca, a longtime listener, connects Taylor Swift’s song "Illicit Affairs" to the affair between Carrie Bradshaw and Mr. Big in Sex and the City. The hosts discuss lyrical parallels and character motivations, affirming Chelsea’s belief that the song draws inspiration from the iconic TV relationship.

Chelsea Fairless (63:28): "Further confirmation of something that I have always believed."

Lauren encourages Chelsea to engage directly with Taylor Swift about the song’s inspirations.

Lauren Garrone (63:42): "If you were ever to meet Taylor Swift, I hope the first thing you would ask her is, 'Come on, illicit affairs is inspired by Carrie and Big,' right?"

15. Hear Me Out Cake Trend (67:08 – 71:00)

The final caller discusses the viral trend of "Hear Me Out" cakes, where unconventional crushes are depicted on cakes. The hosts playfully critique and elaborate on their own unconventional "hear me out" choices, blending humor with personal anecdotes about attraction and aesthetic preferences.

Lauren Garrone (67:22): "Because I feel like we're into ugly, hot people."

Chelsea humorously supports the idea by choosing Ghostface as her unconventional crush.

Chelsea Fairless (67:19): "Ghostface is fucking hot."

16. Conclusion and Patreon-Only Content (71:00 – End)

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the richness of the hotline calls, praising the diverse topics and personal connections. They tease forthcoming Patreon-exclusive content, particularly an Sex and the City themed hotline episode, encouraging listeners to engage and contribute their own stories.

Chelsea Fairless (68:18): "Call in. Don't be discouraged if your call wasn't played, it might be played later."

Lauren Garrone (68:18): "Ooh, sounds like an episode for my maternity leave if I've ever heard one."

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Lauren Garrone (03:26): "While celebrities have had brands before, I think this was the era that really mainstreamed the idea that you could get something really high fashion from a kind of shitty mass market store."

• Chelsea Fairless (04:34): "I genuinely feel like she does want, want to bring fashion to the average person."

• Lauren Garrone (12:22): "Now, I think the number one thing that you should know about Parker Posey is that she was in some of the most important and influential independent films from the 90s."

• Chelsea Fairless (18:31): "All of Ottessa's books, I would read all of Mary Gaitskill's books."

• Lauren Garrone (27:23): "You could look for the brand on the realreal as well."

• Lauren Garrone (34:10): "We need exclusivity on dating apps. If you are in an open marriage or open relationship looking for a third, get out of Hinge and Grindr."

• Chelsea Fairless (37:32): "But I totally understand the impulse."

• Lauren Garrone (43:46): "The RealReal is returnable. So buy a few things, return two of them."

• Lauren Garrone (51:09): "If you're trying to quit smoking, you can't do it with a vape."

• Lauren Garrone (59:17): "I think it's not Sarah Jessica Parker that made this bad. It is the sketches in the episode."

• Lauren Garrone (63:42): "If you were ever to meet Taylor Swift, I hope the first thing you would ask her is, 'Come on, illicit affairs is inspired by Carrie and Big,' right?"

• Chelsea Fairless (67:19): "Ghostface is fucking hot."

Final Thoughts

Episode 216 showcases Every Outfit hosts Chelsea Fairless and Lauren Garrone engaging with a variety of listener calls, ranging from fashion nostalgia and celebrity ventures to personal relationship struggles and pop culture analyses. The blend of humor, insightful commentary, and relatable advice underscores the podcast’s unique position at the intersection of fashion and personal discourse. Listeners are encouraged to participate actively, with promises of exclusive content for dedicated patrons.

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