Every Outfit Podcast - Episode 255: On Awards Season, Heated Rivalry, JonBenét Ramsey
January 10, 2026
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Hosts Chelsea Fairless and Lauren Garroni return for their first episode of 2026, diving into the chaos of awards season, the surprise breakout TV hit "Heated Rivalry," and Chelsea’s ongoing obsession with the JonBenét Ramsey case. With their signature mix of fashion commentary, pop culture hot takes, and sardonic humor, they catch up on recent industry news and personal anecdotes.
Catching Up After the Holidays
Starts ~[02:00]
- Chelsea is recording from Australia, describing her laid-back beach holiday and travels around Noosa.
- Lauren catches Chelsea up on LA’s “atrocious vibes,” near road-rage incidents, and her own New Year’s trip: “I think our east coast tour prepared Paul and I for road tripping with an infant.” [05:00]
- Outlet-mall discourse: Lauren updates Chelsea on new Margiela and Acne Studios stores at Cabazon Outlet, recounts bargain finds, and the “haggard” state of retail employees after holiday crowds.
Notable Quote:
“The vibes in LA are pretty atrocious. I have been run off the road this week, or almost run off the road not once, but twice.”
— Lauren, [03:01]
Awards Season Chaos
[07:52]
The Creep of Awards Shows
- Awards season is starting earlier—now with the Critics Choice Awards bumping right into the holidays.
- Both hosts mock the “Actors Awards” rebranding from the traditional “SAG Awards.”
- Chelsea: “It’s now the Actors Award, which I deeply resent. It’s a terrible rebranding…I don’t like it. The name isn’t the problem with the SAG Awards.” [09:45]
- Lauren on Leonardo DiCaprio’s frantic travel schedule: “You gotta go to Palm Springs, then you gotta, like, what, get a helicopter to make it to the Critics Choice Awards?” [09:00]
Who’s Nominated & Who’s Snubbed
[11:00]
- Recap of Critics Choice Awards winners:
- Amy Madigan (Supporting Actress, Weapons)
- Jacob Elordi (Supporting Actor, Frankenstein) “a wild card choice”
- Jessie Buckley (Best Actress, Hamnet)
- Timothée Chalamet (Best Actor, Marty Supreme)
- Discussion of “America First” energy with all foreign films snubbed in Actor Awards nominations.
- Both dissect category placement controversies (Jesse Plemons in “Begonia” as Lead instead of Supporting), and ensemble category hopes for “Marty Supreme.”
- Fun speculation over who might sweep this season, especially career recognition for Amy Madigan and Paul Thomas Anderson.
Notable Quote:
“The idea of someone winning for a horror film doesn’t typically happen. It’s usually shut out.”
— Lauren, [18:33]
SD Haim’s New Year’s Eve Wedding
[19:37]
- The hosts break down the social implications and fashion of Este Haim's wedding.
- Star-studded attendees—Taylor Swift seen walking in the rain with Stevie Nicks (“Seeing Taylor and Stevie together made me emotional. These are my girls.” — Chelsea, [20:39]).
- Deep-dive into Este’s polarizing Louis Vuitton wedding look:
- “It’s off-putting, but I’m into it. It’s definitely wearing her…But no one else is wearing stuff like this when they get married. So good for her.”
— Chelsea, [23:23]
- “It’s off-putting, but I’m into it. It’s definitely wearing her…But no one else is wearing stuff like this when they get married. So good for her.”
- Lauren admits dress confusion and envy over drama of winter weddings: “Once that jacket comes off, it’s a very basic…spaghetti strapped wedding dress underneath it.” [24:29]
- Paul Thomas Anderson’s post-wedding 18-hour “wedding film festival” described—highlights include Repo Man, Barry Lyndon, Casino, ending with Father of the Bride [25:20].
The Golden Eve: Sarah Jessica Parker’s Lifetime Comedy Honor
[28:45]
- Recap of the inaugural “Golden Eve,” a standalone broadcast spun off from the Golden Globes, focusing on lifetime achievement.
- Sarah Jessica Parker receives the Carol Burnett Award; emotional moments and speech details reviewed.
- Both hosts (and Kristen Davis) get teary: “I got emotional. I started to think about you and I and the message of Sex in the City. And as Kristen said, you know, your chosen people as family.” — Lauren, [31:26]
- Noted: SJP thanked characters, not actresses, in her speech.
- Red carpet media critiqued for focusing only on “Will you reprise Carrie Bradshaw?” even on the night of SJP’s honor.
- “Let her have this evening.” — Lauren, [34:50]
- Chelsea predicts: “Honestly, the more that I think about it, I can see a Samantha spinoff happening before…I think we all do want to celebrate that character.” [35:45]
Heated Rivalry: The Breakout TV Sensation
[37:53]
- Both hosts rave about the last two episodes, esp. episode five: “One of the most incredible episodes of television I’ve ever seen.” — Chelsea, [37:53]
- Praises for avoiding tired “tragic gay love” tropes:
“Neither of the characters hate themselves, which we never really see. Their girlfriends don’t hate them…there are other gay people in the world of the show…and they gradually work towards a stable relationship, which I feel like we never really see.” — Chelsea, [40:40]
- Lauren calls out producers for short six-episode season, laments long wait until 2027 for next season.
- Behind-the-scenes tidbits: Cottage was built from scratch for a single episode, even with a bare-bones budget [42:19].
- Touch on writer Rachel Reid’s Parkinson’s diagnosis—being helped by the show’s visibility.
- Broader point: Frustration at current TV “mini-seasons”—a legacy of streaming, wish for a return to “20-something episode” network-era television [44:07].
JonBenét Ramsey Case Obsession
[46:50]
- Lauren cues up Chelsea’s deep-dive: “Chelsea, I’ve been meaning to ask you…there was no place in December to ask you about your favorite special interest, JonBenét Ramsey…” [46:50]
- Chelsea admits annual holiday rabbit hole: reads subreddits, keeps up with news, and receives group chat intervention.
- “Your wife has been sending us…recordings of you talking about JonBenét as she’s like, we have to go to dinner.” — Lauren, [47:33]
- Updates listeners on delays for Paramount+ unscripted miniseries Unspeakable (Melissa McCarthy as Patsy, Clive Owen as John, Margot Martindale as grandmother) due to legal concerns from aggressive Ramsey family litigation.
- Chelsea’s forensic review of “whodunit” acronyms used in online fandom: BDI (Burke Did It), PDI (Patsy Did It), JDI (John Did It), etc.
- On her own theory: “I think it was Patsy, but with some involvement of John covering up the crime. I don’t know at what point he was looped in. I do not think it was Burke.” — Chelsea, [54:07]
- Both debate the most likely scenario, with promises for a deeper VIP JonBenét episode.
Bardot & Divas of the Past: The Social Media Reckoning
[57:32]
- Recap of celebrities (notably Chapel Roan) posting effusive eulogies for Brigitte Bardot—only to “walk back” after public backlash about her bigoted history.
- “If I were…unbelievably worldwide famous…wouldn’t you just Google a person’s name plus the word ‘problematic’ before you decided to publicly praise them?” — Lauren, [58:08]
- Chelsea: It’s telling that posters “maybe didn’t know that much about her or care about her,” and the beauty/muse ideal she represented to younger generations.
- Both defend Criterion/TCM’s right to post about her legacy while acknowledging her politics; predict future social media chaos when “real monsters” like Polanski and Woody Allen pass away.
Right-Wing Red Carpet: Nicki Minaj, Erica Kirk, and Turning Point
[62:46]
- Nicki Minaj appeared at right-wing America Fest, hosted by Erica Kirk (widow of Charlie Kirk).
- Chelsea, as a fan, calls it “extremely embarrassing” and suspects it’s not merely a publicity stunt: “She’s burned every bridge that she could possibly burn…not like to the Kanye West level of bridge burning yet, but she’s on that path.” [64:03]
- Lauren floats the theory that Minaj is currying favor with MAGA for a possible Trump pardon for her family members.
- Discussion of right-wing women inheriting power: “It’s also very Handmaid’s Tale-esque…there is a similar plot line on that show where Joseph Fiennes played a far-right political leader that got murdered…and then his wife had to fill his shoes…” — Chelsea, [67:10]
Goodbyes to a Lost Era: Jacqueline de Ribes & Retail’s Death Spiral
[68:15]
- Tribute to the late socialite/designer Jacqueline de Ribes, “the last standing swan” from the Capote set. Remembered for her style, curation, and exhibition at the Costume Institute.
- Lauren dives into the labyrinth of Saks Fifth Avenue’s financial troubles—a missed $100 million debt payment, CEO resignation, and the department store’s private equity death spiral.
- “Going back 18 months, the amount of like debt restructuring they’ve done gave me a headache. Again, I say, it feels like the department store version of too big to fail.” — Lauren, [73:37]
- LA retail nostalgia and anxiety: Old Fred Segal’s Ivy facade collapsing after rains (Metaphor alert: “deeply depressing”), plea for Dover Street Market to take over the space.
Epilogue: Cupcakes, Cancelled Men, and Kevin Spacey’s “Tár Moment”
[78:14]
- Briefly on Sprinkles cupcake shutdown.^[“It was a concept that made sense when Obama was president.” — Lauren, [78:29]]
- Discussion of Kevin Spacey’s humiliating post-cancellation cabaret tour in Cyprus and Tel Aviv.
- “I would argue that this particular scenario is actually much darker than Tár. When you think about it, it makes me think that Lydia Tár didn’t actually hit rock bottom. There is another level that she could have fallen to.” — Chelsea, [79:06]
- “He made his own clip package.” — Chelsea, [83:05]
- Dark tidbits from the recent Spacey docuseries shared (“He jerked off in a movie theater during the D-Day scene in Saving Private Ryan…that haunts me” — Chelsea, [83:15]), and his infamous brother’s Rod Stewart impersonation.
- Reflectively head-shaking on how “cancelled men” pivot between “crying poor to booked and busy” (Depp and Spacey as prime examples).
Standout Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “You want to know what it was like for us? Just go on a regional podcast tour where you force your spouses to be your roadies. That’s what traveling with an infant is like.” — Lauren, [05:31]
- “The idea of someone winning for a horror film doesn’t typically happen. It’s usually shut out.” — Lauren, [18:33]
- “Neither of the characters hate themselves, which we never really see…” — Chelsea, [40:40]
- “If I were…unbelievably worldwide famous…wouldn’t you just Google a person’s name plus the word ‘problematic’ before you decided to publicly praise them?” — Lauren, [58:08]
- “I think our east coast tour prepared Paul and I for road tripping with an infant.” — Lauren, [05:00]
- “Seeing Taylor and Stevie together made me emotional. These are my girls.” — Chelsea, [20:39]
- “I would argue that this particular scenario is actually much darker than Tár. When you think about it, it makes me think that Lydia Tár didn’t actually hit rock bottom…” — Chelsea, [79:06]
Timestamps for Key Segments
- [02:00] Personal holiday catch-up, outlet shopping
- [07:52] Awards season schedules, new names for old shows
- [11:00] Critics Choice & SAG/Actor Awards nominations and snubs
- [19:37] Este Haim’s New Year’s Eve wedding & fashion
- [28:45] The Golden Eve broadcast & Sarah Jessica Parker tribute
- [37:53] Heated Rivalry TV phenomenon analysis
- [46:50] JonBenét Ramsey case, updates, and fandom taxonomies
- [57:32] Brigitte Bardot eulogy backlash, generational perspectives
- [62:46] Nicki Minaj’s right-wing turn, America Fest, and culture wars
- [68:15] RIP Jacqueline de Ribes, end-of-era socialites
- [73:37] Saks’ debt spiral, the death of department stores
- [79:06] Kevin Spacey’s cabaret “Tár Moment” in exile
Closing
Chelsea and Lauren end on trademark sardonic warmth, observing how hard it is to find bright spots amid bleak fashion, culture, and retail news. They promise live updates once reunited in LA, and offer their listeners a fittingly dark serenade—Kevin Spacey’s jazz standard rendition—as the episode fades out.
For those who haven’t listened:
Expect razor-sharp, sardonic cultural commentary, pop fashion analysis, and wildly specific opinions—whether on the year’s most surprising TV hit, the bleak fate of retail, or infamous unsolved crimes. All delivered with best-friend camaraderie and just enough glitz and gossip to carry you through the doldrums of January.