256: On Chris Noth, The Golden Globes, Marty Supreme

Summary

Every Outfit Podcast — Episode 256: On Chris Noth, The Golden Globes, Marty Supreme

Released: January 16, 2026
Hosts: Chelsea Fairless and Lauren Garroni

---

Episode Overview

In this lively and candid episode, Lauren and Chelsea reunite in person to deliver their unmistakably sharp, pop-culture-saturated take on recent headlines in fashion and entertainment. The main topics include the Chris Noth online kerfuffle and the legacy of his "Sex and the City" career; Sarah Jessica Parker's new Tanqueray ad (and suspicious similarity to Kim Cattrall's earlier speech); the resurfacing of a questionable Kim Cattrall interview about Roman Polanski; and an in-depth, highly opinionated rundown of the 2026 Golden Globes, from red carpet highs and lows to the show's podcast category and bizarre soundtrack choices. They wrap with reactions to Josh Safdie’s film "Marty Supreme" and broader TV talk — all in their signature blend of snark, insider knowledge, and genuine friendship.

---

Main Segments & Key Takeaways

1. Chelsea’s Return & Personal Check-in

[03:02]

• Lauren jokes about worrying she’d have to solo-host while Chelsea was unreachable after her flight from Australia, leading to playful banter about international travel digital detoxes.
• Chelsea: “I was a victim of the Verizon outage… So I had to do a full digital detox yesterday.”
• “My mental health is a hell of a lot better, so I’m gonna use that as inspiration heading into the new year.” — Chelsea [03:58]

---

2. Chris Noth Instagram Drama & “Sex and the City” Fallout

[04:06–10:48]

• Chris Noth left a cryptic Instagram comment (“right”) seemingly agreeing with a fan’s suggestion to “f*** SJP and her award.” It was widely reported, leading to speculation about his feelings toward former co-star Sarah Jessica Parker.
• Recap of Chris Noth’s sexual assault allegations and cancellation after “And Just Like That” Season 1.
• The hosts emphasize how Sarah Jessica Parker and other SATC leads publicly supported the accusers.
• Lauren: “Chris Noth has essentially been on what I like to call canceled man island ever since…” [05:12]
• Discussion of Noth’s awkward attempts to re-enter public life, including a defensive Instagram post referring to his comment as a “tempest in a teapot.”
• Chelsea: “It is crazy to me that he is being salty towards Sarah Jessica Parker… The only clout he has left is because he was on Sex and the City!” [08:29]
• Observations about his steadfast (and delusional) Instagram defenders, and speculation about alternate realities if his character hadn’t been killed off.
• Dark anecdote: Chelsea recalls the Beverly Johnson allegations, warning fans about uncritically supporting celebrity figures.

---

3. SJP’s Tanqueray Ad vs. Kim Cattrall’s “No” Speech

[11:01–16:36]

• The hosts react to SJP’s new Tanqueray commercial, featuring narration about the power of saying “no,” and claim it suspiciously echoes Kim Cattrall’s public speech years earlier.
• Chelsea: “I was really, really shocked they picked this particular direction for a Sara Jessica Parker Tanqueray ad…” [12:35]
• Lauren plays Kim Cattrall’s original speech from the Variety Power of Women luncheon.
• They mash up the audio for comedic effect, noting how closely the ads’ messages align.

The Tanqueray Ad: Confusion and Analysis

• Lauren and Chelsea critique the ad’s confusing narrative structure. Lauren reads the odd tagline: “Charles Tanqueray said no to 300 versions before naming his gin.”
• Chelsea: “It’s two things: in this ad, we see the many selves of Sarah Jessica Parker, but they’re all wearing the same outfit. And the fact that they use they pronouns… It makes it seem more universal, but we’re just left confused.” [17:08–18:01]
• Amusing dissection of SJP’s various alcohol-related promos (including her own wine, canned spritzes, and the ad’s choice to highlight gin, not vodka/Cosmos).
• Tangent on the realities of non-alcoholic wine and influencer culture.

---

4. Resurfaced Kim Cattrall Comments Defending Roman Polanski

[24:42–34:46]

• A 2011 interview with Cattrall defending Polanski (while promoting “Ghost Writer”) goes viral, causing a mini scandal.
• Full context is provided: she references a documentary, asserts Polanski “served his time,” and raises questions about the justice system — downplaying the actual criminal act.
• Chelsea: “It’s not funny. It’s just, like, so unhinged.” [26:53]
• Lauren thoroughly debunks Cattrall’s factual errors and recounts Polanski’s actual plea deal and flight from justice.
• Both hosts call out the ongoing pattern of celebrities publicly supporting Polanski (“There are many celebrities that have made statements…Whoopi Goldberg, Quentin Tarantino… but he is a rapist.” — Chelsea [31:52])
• Reflection on how Hollywood continues to rationalize Polanski’s actions for “artistic genius.”

---

5. Golden Globes 2026: Complete Rundown & Fashion Takes

[36:22–67:12]

Highlights and Observations

• Chelsea watched from Australia, appreciating the award show as a daytime event.
• Excitement over Teyana Taylor’s Best Supporting Actress win and emotional acceptance speech: “She looked amazing…she was emotional, she was excited.” — Lauren [37:18]
• Amusement at the randomness and sometimes cringey nature of the ceremony’s soundtrack:
  • “The soundtrack should constitute a criminal act. Like, it was a crime against culture.” — Chelsea [44:24]
  • Best needle drop: Stellan Skarsgård wins for "Sentimental Value" -> Usher’s “Yeah” plays, baffling everyone.
• Nikki Glaser’s return as host: sharp, safe jokes but less edge than prior year; best moments were roasting Leo DiCaprio and Sean Penn (and poking fun at podcast culture with a Jane Goodall “Call Her Daddy” bit).
  • Chelsea: “It was a little outdated…but the way she satirized podcasts was hilarious.” [39:50]
• Wanda Sykes upstages with bold nominee roasts, especially calling out Bill Maher and Ricky Gervais [43:19].
• Critique of the “sportsification” of the Globes: betting segments, UFC tie-in, and backstage play-by-play.
  • “I don’t need, between the sports betting, the UFC segment, and having Mark Malkin and Kevin Frazier giving commentary like it’s a boxing match…” — Lauren [55:16]
• Fashion on the red carpet (see details below).

Red Carpet & Fashion Commentary

[56:15–66:44]

• Loss of fashion conversation lamented: “The red carpet died the day we stopped asking people what they’re wearing… No one is talking about fashion.” — Lauren [56:47]
• Teyana Taylor in Schiaparelli and Jenna Ortega in Dara Findikoglu declared best dressed: both channeling old Hollywood with subversive, “Cher” energy.
• On Teyana Taylor: “It fused together two award show tropes… old Hollywood glamour and then a rhinestone thong. It was both of those things.” — Chelsea [58:23]
• Less love for Timothée Chalamet in Chrome Hearts (“Didn’t care… I don’t care about Chrome Hearts at all.” — Chelsea [60:24]) and general consensus that Mark Ronson’s YSL windbreaker was “major and cool.”
• Men’s style: Hudson Williams in Armani Privé and Amy Madigan in Tom Browne (with Ed Harris in a matching tux) get kudos.
• Disappointment at John Krasinski’s velvet suit and Emily Blunt’s Louis Vuitton gown; "not a far cry from something Cindy McCain would wear."
• Reflecting on the evolution of celebrity faces, especially Emma Stone’s "new face" and Jennifer Lawrence’s transformative look.
• Praise for Parker Posey’s campy, Norma Desmond-esque vibe, always bringing a theatrical approach to red carpets.

---

6. TV Talk: Emily in Paris, Plurbus, Stranger Things Series Finale

[68:50–78:43]

• Chelsea recaps the latest season of “Emily in Paris,” including commentary on Sylvie’s superior storyline and the potential for Emily’s adventures to shift to Greece.
• Lauren recommends “Plurbus” (Vince Gilligan’s new show), describing its “happiness virus” premise and highlighting its slow-burn pacing, which pays off in the finale.
• Extended critique of “Stranger Things” final season and its convoluted plotlines (multiple dimensions, mind invasions), with musings on rumors that changes in the Duffer brothers’ personal lives affected the writing.
• “The noteworthy things… Will finally came out of the closet in a way that no teenager in the 1980s would, which is sort of sitting down his entire family, his entire friend group, and some other random adults… and just be like, guys, I’m gay mid crisis.” — Chelsea [74:51]

---

7. Film Review: Marty Supreme (Josh Safdie, 2026)

[79:30–88:23]

• Lauren has just seen the Josh Safdie solo film “Marty Supreme”; Chelsea saw it a month ago.
• Both hosts highlight Safdie’s fascination with hustling, often-ruinous protagonists and compare it to “Uncut Gems.”
• Chelsea is “obsessed” with the film, raving about its energy, New York authenticity, and bizarre but memorable moments — including the iconic bathtub scene (“The bathtub falling through the floor! Gwyneth Paltrow’s necklace going down the drain!”) [81:35]
• Gwyneth Paltrow’s role praised: “It feels so good to see her on screen.” — Lauren [83:14]
• Surprising cameos from Isaac Mizrahi, Penn Jillette (as a New Jersey farmer), Abel Ferrara, and Mr. Wonderful (Kevin O’Leary) of “Shark Tank” fame, who turns out to have a surprisingly large speaking role.
  • “Kevin O’Leary, who… is kind of the third or fourth lead of this movie.” — Lauren [84:29]
• Amusing trivia: The original ending had O’Leary as a vampire biting Marty in the 1980s — “Understandably, A24 was like, no…” [85:42]
• Both laud the electric 1980s-inspired score, the lived-in production design, and, crucially, the film’s comedic edge (earning Timothée Chalamet his comedy-category win).
  • “I laughed out loud multiple times… Must be weird for Leonardo DiCaprio losing to him.” — Chelsea [88:33]

---

Notable Quotes

• “He’s such a salty little bitch.” — Chelsea on Chris Noth [05:04]
• “The only clout he has left is because he was on Sex and the City.” — Chelsea [08:29]
• “No to changing her body… No, that’s not for me… No, I won’t be bullied…” — Kim Cattrall [Power of Women speech, 13:24]
• “It is crazy to me that he is being salty towards Sarah Jessica Parker… because reruns of Sex and the City are still on.” — Chelsea [08:29]
• “I have to guess that the copywriter of this Tanqueray campaign is team Kim.” — Lauren [14:02]
• “It was a crime against culture.” — Chelsea on the Golden Globes DJ soundtrack [44:24]
• “The red carpet died the day we stopped asking people what they’re wearing.” — Lauren [56:47]
• “This goth persona works very well for her, but I’m like, is she actually goth at all?” — Chelsea on Jenna Ortega [59:26]
• “I’m obsessed with Marty Supreme. I found it to be completely gripping from the first scene…” — Chelsea [81:35]
• “It has an energy to it… It really did fly by.” — Lauren on Marty Supreme [87:31]

---

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Chris Noth/Instagram Controversy: 04:06–10:48
• Tanqueray/SJP Ad vs Kim Cattrall No Speech: 11:01–20:50
• Kim Cattrall on Roman Polanski: 24:42–34:46
• Golden Globes Recap: 36:22–67:12
  • Highlights, Red Carpet, Fashion: 56:15–66:44
• Marty Supreme Review: 79:30–88:23

---

Memorable Moments

• Lauren’s “first thought” with Chelsea MIA is, “I’m going to have to do the podcast on my own.” [03:10]
• Chelsea imagines Noth’s Instagram defenders think he’s “more attainable now because he is tainted in the public’s eye.” [09:05]
• The SJP ad-takes-over-everything phase: “It’s JY and then Viz. It’s jizz, but for your eyes.” — Chelsea [22:13]
• Chelsea on the Golden Globes soundtrack: “What was your favorite off-putting needle drop during the award ceremony?” [45:15]
• Comments on contemporary face work: “You never want to be able to Google an actor, celebrity, a model’s name with the words ‘before.’” — Lauren [66:02]

---

Summary Tone

Conversational, irreverent, incisive, and maximally insider-y: the podcast walks a line between affectionate pop culture obsession and acid wit, with plenty of laughs, juicy observations, and informed context for newcomers and longtime fans alike.

---

This summary omits advertisements, sponsor transitions, and closing credits to focus on content-rich discussion.

Transcript

[Ad Host 1]

Lets do the 60 second savings challenge step 1 download Rocket Money step 2 link your accounts and see every subscription you're paying for. Tap one you don't use and cancel it. That's money back every month. Step 3 Create a financial goal $50 every paycheck, or let the app automatically move small amounts of cash when you can afford it. In a week, you'll forget you set it up. In a month, you'll see real dollars piling up. In a year, you'll be shocked at how much money you've saved. Bonus Challenge Upload an Internet or phone bill and let Rocket Money try to lower it. You only pay if they find you savings. On average, Rocket Money members can save up to $740 a year when using all of the app's premium features. Users love the app with over 186,000 five star ratings. Make saving money the resolution you actually keep. Start the 60 second savings challenge at RocketMoney.com cancel that's RocketMoney.com cancel RocketMoney.com cancel.

[Ad Host 2]

If you're an H Vac technician and a call comes in, Grainger knows that you need a partner that helps you find the right product fast and hassle free. And you know that when the first problem of the day is a clanking blower motor, there's no need to break a sweat. With Grainger's easy to use website and product details, you're confident you'll soon have everything humming right along. Call 1-800-GRAINGER clickgrainger.com or just stop by Granger for the ones who get it done.

[Lauren Garoney]

This episode is brought to you by mubi, the global film company that champions great cinema. From iconic directors to emerging auteurs, there is always something new to discover with mubi. Each and every film is hand selected so you can explore the best of cinema. And now streaming is the New Year's A Venice Selected ten part series. Anna and Oscar meet on New Year's eve, both turning 30 with lives on different tracks and and they fall in love 10 consecutive years, each episode capturing a single night. The story of this relationship in the series captures how love actually raw passion, intimate sexual chemistry and real conflict across a decade without Hollywood fairy tales or sanitized romance. If you love the before trilogy like I do, I think you will really enjoy this series. It explores the modern anxieties of the millennial coming of age experience. Frankly, I don't think there's enough stories about that. It explores themes of commitment, life transitions, purpose, authentic connection in an uncertain certain world. Eight Episodes are now streaming on MUBI in the US to stream the New Year's and the best of cinema, you can try MUBI free for 30 [e-mail] every outfit. That's M U B I.com every outfit for a whole month of great cinema for free. I spent $40,000 on shoes. What's the matter, Morty? Great gowns.

[Kim Cattrall (clip)]

Beautiful gowns.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Fashion has changed.

[Lauren Garoney]

Hi, I'm Lauren Garoney.

[Chelsea Fairless]

And I'm Chelsea Fairless.

[Lauren Garoney]

And welcome back to the Every Outfit podcast. We are together in person. Chelsea, you just landed back from Australia. I had my doubts because I woke up to a text message yesterday and you were like, as soon as I land, I'm gonna call you. And then it got to be three in the afternoon, and I was like, oh, shit, I haven't heard from Chelsea. And I kept calling you and I got that, like, this call cannot go through. And I was like, oh, my God, did her plane crash. I'm going to have to do the podcast on my own now. I guess I could.

[Chelsea Fairless]

That's your first thought, you fudgeing bitch? No, I was a victim of the Verizon outage, which no one should have to land after an international flight, which didn't have WI fi on the plane, by the way, somehow. So I had to do a full digital detox yesterday.

[Lauren Garoney]

All you had was the, like, four Stranger Things episodes you downloaded to your iPad.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Exactly. And you know what? My mental health is a hell of a lot better, so I'm gonna use that as inspiration heading into the new year.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, I'm not about to intro a bad news segment, but we have sex in the City shit to talk about. Why are we even bothering with this small talk? We need to get into this Chris Noth Instagram. I'll call it a kerfuffle.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yes.

[Lauren Garoney]

Okay, so after Sarah Jessica Parker's Golden Eve award ceremony, Chris Noth posted a workout photo of himself that said, fuck New Year's, let's go. I should say fuck is censored. It's F ampersand at symbol K New Year's. Em dash, let's go. In all caps, four exclamation points. And for some reason, an Instagram user named jennm999 wrote, you mean fuck SJP and her award, right? LOL. And Chris Noth just wrote, right? What?

[Chelsea Fairless]

He's such a salty little bitch.

[Lauren Garoney]

So of course that got picked up everywhere.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I'm actually surprised that so many people cared.

[Lauren Garoney]

So, for those who don't remember, shortly after the release of the first season of. And just like that, a Hollywood Reporter article came out that detailed two women's experience being sexually assaulted by Chris Knoth at the time. Knoth told the Hollywood Reporter in a statement, the accusations against me made by individuals I met years, even decades ago are categorically false. These stories could have been from 30 years ago or 30 days ago. No always means no. This is a line I do not cross. The accountants were consensual. It's difficult not to question the timing of these stories coming out. I don't know for certain why they are surfacing now, but I do know this. I did not assault these women. Despite that, Kris Noth has essentially been on what I like to call canceled man island ever since. So those who know those two things, the fact that Chris Noth was canceled, the fact that he wasn't at Sarah Jessica Parker's Golden Eve event, and the fact that Sarah Jessica Parker has ever publicly come out to support Chris Nothe and then this statement essentially saying, fuck her and her award does make it seem like he feels a certain way about Sarah Jessica Parker, for sure.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Also after that article came out, if you'll remember, Sarah Jessica Parker, Cynthia Nixon and Kristin Davis all cross posted the same statement expressing support for the victims, essentially.

[Lauren Garoney]

Right. But this behavior doesn't surprise me. Like, we do have to remember, despite, you know, Netflix having Sex and the City, e always replaying recaps of Sex and the City. This is a man in his 60s who I learned this week has an active social media presence on Instagram. Am I surprised that he treated a public comment section as a private message? No.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. And he's made comments about it since. That suggests that he is just, like, shocked that anyone would notice this or care about this. It reminds me of when Barbra Streisand commented on Melissa McCarthy's Instagram thinking it was a DM and was like, you look great. Are you on Ozempic? Do you remember that?

[Lauren Garoney]

Yes, I do. I do. Well, yeah. My theory that he thought that this would just be seen as a private message of sorts, I feel like was confirmed because he then went back on Instagram the other day to release a statement, sort of, and post a really.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Bizarre image of himself.

[Lauren Garoney]

But anyway, he clearly wants to get back into the industry. Anyone that hasn't worked in five years probably would like to work again. So for those who have not seen this Instagram post, it's basically his latest headshot is what it feels like where he's like, you know, if all this Attention is on me. I just want the industry to know this is what I look like now. And the caption reads, my off the cuff, slightly sarcastic response to a comment on the Internet seems to have caused a tempest in a teapot. It is not news. It is not worth all this discussion. It is a waste of time in a world where there are more important things to worry about.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Ok, but then he doesn't go on to list those important things. Like, what are you talking about? Are we talking about Minnesota? Are we talking about Iran?

[Lauren Garoney]

We're talking about the cost of living crisis.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It is crazy to me that he is being salty towards Sarah Jessica Parker just because the only clout he has left is because he was on Sex and the City, because reruns of Sex and the City are still on.

[Lauren Garoney]

People have forgotten he was even on Law and Order. Yeah, I mean, not us, but they really have.

[Chelsea Fairless]

But to me, what is more disturbing is these women who defend him unconditionally. Every once in a while I look at his Instagram and I read comments from these women and, like, I don't think they realize he's not actually Mr. Big.

[Lauren Garoney]

Oh, of course.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I was texting with Patrick about this and he was like, they're even more into him now that he's been canceled for being a rapist because they think that he's more attainable now because he.

[Lauren Garoney]

Is tainted in the public's eye and.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Blacklisted from the industry. Maybe I have more of a shot.

[Lauren Garoney]

With him, even though he's married and has been for like the last 12 years.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, but you know what I mean? Because it is a bizarre mentality that you would have to. Have to be like, fuck Sarah Jessica Parker, but I support you.

[Lauren Garoney]

It's always been the butterfly effect in my mind or like, alternate realities. I do wonder if they chose to not kill Mr. Big off in the first episode of season one of and just like that and this Hollywood Reporter article had come out at the same time. Like, would they then have had no other choice but to kill him off?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, I think so.

[Lauren Garoney]

Can we also go back to his statement, which is he refers to his comments as off the cuff, which, yes, that's easy to see. But then he refers to the comment as slightly sarcastic, which means he's giving room for, like. I mean, I meant it a little bit sarcastically, but like, a little bit.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Actually, that's the vibe that I got from it.

[Lauren Garoney]

By the way, what he's referring to is he literally wrote the word right to someone else's comment. To what of these housewife sickos who I guess you know are stand by his side.

[Chelsea Fairless]

They are sickos. And if one of you sickos does convince Chris Noth to date you, just know that if you try to break up with him, he may threaten to kill you and your dog, which is what he did to Beverly Johnson pre Sex and the City.

[Lauren Garoney]

I mean, this Sex and the City section might as well be a bad news segment because we got nothing good to say. Do you want to discuss the Sarah Jessica Parker Tanqueray Adam or the resurface Kim Cattrall comments?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Let's do the tanker ad. It's a little less dark to ease us into the Kim Cattrall of it all.

[Lauren Garoney]

So we didn't cover this when we were talking about Sarah Jessica Parker and her Golden Eve. I keep calling her award the Golden.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Eve where you don't even get a golden statuette. Who wants a silver Golden Globe? This is fud up. Especially if it's a lifetime achievement award.

[Lauren Garoney]

After the ceremony aired on Thursday, Tanqueray on their social media channels launched their campaign with Sarah Jessica Parker as their ambassador with an ad on social media. I foresaw it on Instagram. Let's play it. For those who have not heard it. No to changing her body to get apart. No to retouching without permission. No to compromising her vision. No to imitating others. We think yeses take us further. But the no's are what make life spectacular. We should say for those who have not seen this particular ad, as that voiceover is happening, there is just CGI versions of Sarah Jessica Parker's Golden Globes. It's like a tracking shot of every Golden Globe she won over this dialog about saying no. And I don't know, Chelsea, to my ears, that sounded oddly familiar.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I know. I was really, really shocked that they picked this particular direction for a Sarah Jessica Parker Tanqueray ad because.

[Lauren Garoney]

And we covered this a few years ago. That was the missive of Kim Cattrall's speech when she was awarded the Variety in Women award. For those who do not remember it, it went a little way.

[Chelsea Fairless]

The Variety in Women award. I'm pretty sure that's not what it was called. She was honored at the Variety Power of Women luncheon, I believe.

[Lauren Garoney]

Oh, that's so much better than what I said.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Better wording than how you just put it.

[Lauren Garoney]

She was honored at Variety's New York Power of Women event. It's even who we are than either you or I thought. But for those who don't remember the speech it went a little something like this.

[Kim Cattrall (clip)]

No, that's not for me. No, I've been there. I've done that. No, I won't be bullied. No, that salary is unacceptable. No, we are not having a meeting in your hotel room. And one of my favorites in particular. No, I don't want to be in a situation for a moment that is not enjoyable.

[Lauren Garoney]

I have to guess that the copywriter of this tank array campaign is team Kim.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, I guess the bit about having a meeting in someone's hotel room is just a little intense for the tank array.

[Lauren Garoney]

You know, Chell, I had a lot of time on my hands this week before you got back, and I thought you might wonder what it would sound like if Kim's speech was in the Tanqueray ad. Stop. No to changing her body to get a part.

[Kim Cattrall (clip)]

No, I won't be bullied.

[Lauren Garoney]

No to retouching without permission.

[Kim Cattrall (clip)]

No, that's not for me.

[Lauren Garoney]

No to imitating others. I tried to get the no, I won't have that meeting in your hotel room into that remix so badly I could not make it work.

[Chelsea Fairless]

All of this is just lead up to the actual commercial with Sarah Jessica Parker that comes out. Do we have audio from that as well?

[Lauren Garoney]

Oh, yeah, I've. I've ripped everything. This is a clip heavy episode.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Okay, okay, let's listen to that now.

[Lauren Garoney]

There are a hundred versions of me that are not me. Maybe 300 or more. The one that didn't stay true to their vision. The one that watched their own work. The one that wouldn't dare to try. The one that took the shortcut. The one that signed every contract I refused. The ones who said every line I chose not to say. We think that yeses will take you further, but the truth is, the no's you give are what make life.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Spectacular. Okay, this is such a confusing ad.

[Lauren Garoney]

Might I just say I was gonna point out that this is maybe more Mystify, the Kim Cattrall esque no social media Tanqueray ad. Because essentially what Sarah Jessica Parker is saying is like, there are so many versions of me that would have sucked if I made these choices. It's basically, yeah, it's a butterfly effect.

[Chelsea Fairless]

But what the fuck does that have to do with Jen? They don't tell you. In the voiceover at the very end of the ad, you see text that says something to the effect of like.

[Lauren Garoney]

Oh, I wrote it down. Okay, Because I didn't get it either. Charles Tanqueray said no to 300 versions before naming his djinn. The syntax of this. And look, when I was starting out my career, I did advertorial marketing. I did copywriting. I know how difficult it is. But the syntax of that sentence makes it seem like he went through 300 iterations of the name for tank array before deciding to just name it after himself.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Okay, see, what I find confusing about this commercial, it's two things. It's the fact that in this ad, we see the many selves of Sarah Jessica Parker. Right. But they're all wearing the same outfit.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah. For those who have not seen the ad, please don't think that they've, like, de aged her. And she's got, like, season two Carrie hair. It's all of the era now. Sarah Jessica Parker just walking through different green screen doors.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Right. And there's, like, multiples of her. But, like, I think that just having wardrobe would communicate that these are, like, different versions of her. Also, the fact that they use they pronouns to describe her, the one that didn't stay true to their vision, the one that watched their work, it makes it seem more universal than, like, if they just said her, we would maybe understand that it's about her.

[Lauren Garoney]

It's also implying. Right. The me that didn't watch all of my work or the me that would have watched all of my work is therefore a worse version of myself.

[Ad Host 3]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It's also tough because it's almost, like, too specific to her. Like, you would have to be, like, a crazy fan to know that Sarah Jessica Parker does not watch her own work.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, what's your favorite line from this nonsensical ad?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I don't know if I have a favorite line. I'm just intrigued by certain lines more than others. Like, I'm very intrigued by the line where she says the one that said every line I didn't want to say. So it's like, what lines of dialogue were vetoed from Sex in the City or from. And just like that, my favorite is.

[Lauren Garoney]

The one that signed every contract I refused. Like, is that version of Sarah Jessica Parker living in a studio apartment? Like, what are we supposed to take away from this? Also to bring it back to the no of it all. You saw what the tagline is, right? Which is the. There's a n and an O in every icon.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Is there an N or an O in tank array? I guess there's an N. I think.

[Lauren Garoney]

They literally mean the word icon has o and n in it.

[Chelsea Fairless]

See, I watched this ad, like, three times. Only by the third time did I think that I understood it. But clearly I still Have a ways to go.

[Lauren Garoney]

I applaud the Tanqueray team for trying to build momentum for this campaign by having it go live right after the Golden Eve ceremony. However, it's slightly confusing for those that actually watched the Golden Eve ceremony. I think it was me and six other people because there's a bit where Colman Domingo Cheers is Sarah Jessica Parker with a Cosmopolitan on every table. Every single person has a Cosmopolitan. A Cosmopolitan, a famously vodka based drink.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It is so deeply bizarre that she didn't choose to capitalize on the vodka of it all or on the Cosmo in general. Especially now that can cocktails are such a thing. And like pre mixed cocktails, especially in the wake of like Bethany Frankel and people like that who have been so successful at marketing mixed cocktails to women. But SJP has done ads for wine, right? She has her SJPX in vivo. I saw recently they introduced some low alcohol versions of that and I'm just like, drink or don't drink. Have a drink or don't have a drink. This is not an SJP criticism, by the way. This is just my feelings about low alcohol wines. Wine, does it have a ton of alcohol to begin with? It's not Jack Daniels. It's not Tanqueray.

[Lauren Garoney]

Can I also make a comment about non alcoholic wine, which is something that I tried exactly once when I was pregnant and. And it took me one sip to realize like, oh, this is just grape juice. I'm just drinking grape juice.

[Chelsea Fairless]

See, my problem is sometimes I accidentally buy it because no alcohol wine is like sort of copying natural wine in terms of like having more unusual labels and things like that. And they've gotten my ass at Bristol Farms before. And it's not even cheaper. That's the thing. I'm still paying like $30 for a bottle of wine with no alcohol.

[Lauren Garoney]

No, we were sitting in London together when we were doing our London shows. We were at the hotel you were staying at. You guys were having cocktails. I was like, oh, let me try this non alcoholic wine. And I realized I was just spending an exorbitant amount of money paying for grape juice.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, I would just drink Kombucha. But anyway, so gin. So we're supposed to drink gin now. Which, you know what? I do love a French 75. So not going to hate on gin.

[Lauren Garoney]

No, gin is fine. But what further complicates matters is you brought my attention to Sarah Jessica Parker's Instagram, where the very next post is for a different paid partnership.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Wait, what is it? Called.

[Lauren Garoney]

It's called Viz. How could you forget? It rhymes with something very naughty.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It's jizz, but for your eyes.

[Lauren Garoney]

As reluctant influencers, we ourselves have accidentally screwed up our content schedule. And sometimes two paid partners ships go up right next to each other. We've been there, we get it. But it's like JY and then Viz.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Look, I do applaud Tankeray for at least doing something different with Sarah Jessica Parker. Because every other ad with her, they make her walk down a New York City street with one of her little Carrie outfits on. And that's what she did for the Viz ad.

[Lauren Garoney]

And that's what she did for her recent Google Ad.

[Chelsea Fairless]

For the Google Ad. Yes, as well.

[Lauren Garoney]

See, this is what happens HBO Max when you don't renew.

[Chelsea Fairless]

And just like that, we're really copying it out here.

[Lauren Garoney]

It's a new year and I'm trying to clean up my habits. Like my habitual need to pour a cocktail every evening. And honestly, having one less drink has never felt easier. With Soul's out of office drinks, it gives you the same relaxing vibe. Zero alcohol, zero hangover. And I still wake up feeling like a functional adult.

[Chelsea Fairless]

We should say that these drinks do get you high. Like I'm not going into 2026 completely sober. Have you seen what's already happened this year?

[Lauren Garoney]

Yes. Seoul makes Feeling good simple. They make delicious hemp derived CBD and THC products with precise dosing, clean ingredients and formulations designed for predictable feel good effects. SOL is the alcohol alternative that puts you in control of your mood.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Exactly. Because what I like about Soul is that you could pick the strength of your drink. Like, I could only handle 2.5 milligram one, but you could also go for a 5 milligram or even a 10 milligram.

[Lauren Garoney]

And they have two great flavors. Raspberry lemonade and Cucumber Melon lime. It's only 30 calories with zero added sugars.

[Chelsea Fairless]

And do not sleep on their bestselling out of office gummies, which deliver a customizable calming buzz. From a 1.5 milligram micro dose for a gentle lift to a 15 milligram for a deeper, more elevated experience. Experience.

[Lauren Garoney]

I don't know who's doing that, but like, that's their journey. Give yourself the gift of a healthier unwind. Right now, Soul is offering our audience 30% off your entire order. Go to GetSoul.com and use the code outfit. That's Get Soul.com promo code ALPHIT for 30% off. Okay, is it time to get into these resurface Kim Cattrall comments.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Oh, God, Yeah, sure.

[Lauren Garoney]

So this was brought at least to our attention by a tiktoker named Gallay Slays, where this interview that Kim Cattrall did back in 2011 has resurfaced particularly for her comments about Roman Polanski. I'm going to play them now. It is a very long clip, maybe the longest clip we've ever played in every outfit history. But it's important to play the entire thing.

[Kim Cattrall (clip)]

Well, I have a very clear definition of separating someone from their work and their life. I also felt that I had seen a documentary before I had done the film, which was really posing a lot of questions, as if, you know, really trying to find out what had happened in that judge's mind and really exposing what an egomaniac he was and how getting Polanski, just like as the Knox case today has just come out, that this girl is innocent. And I'm not saying that he wasn't guilty. I mean, he's admitted to it.

[Ad Host 3]

Yeah.

[Kim Cattrall (clip)]

But what I'm also saying is that there were other, I think, very specific things that were going on that people didn't know about at the time. It was so sensationalized. Not only was he this famous director, but his wife had been killed by Manson. And, you know, it was just fodder for so much runaway gossip and heated debate and propaganda.

[Chelsea Fairless]

But the action was true, though.

[Kim Cattrall (clip)]

Yes, the crime was true. Yes, it was true. It was true. And he was, you know, he did time. He did 11 months or something in jail, which is what the judge said he must do, and then he'll be free. So it was all these plea bargaining back and forth, which happens in any court system. He did his time and then he wanted to get him again because he felt that, you know, public pressure, you know, he was an elected judge, that he wouldn't maintain his reputation. So I think there was a lot more to that story, you know, at the time. And I, you know, what I'm learning in my life is to be less judgmental. I mean, even this is rape. And you really have to be very serious about that. I'm not questioning that. But he was given a bargain that he was going to be free after a period of time, and that was revoked. So you have to look at what the judicial system is and really question that, that.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Oh, my God.

[Lauren Garoney]

It's not funny. It's not funny.

[Chelsea Fairless]

No, it's not funny. It's just, like, so unhinged.

[Lauren Garoney]

That clip appeared and has made the Rounds around the Internet with no context. I'm not coming to her defense. I just wanted to the context.

[Chelsea Fairless]

She raises some good points.

[Lauren Garoney]

I just wanted to give a context of why Kim Cattrall would even be talking about Roman Polanski even in the year 2011. And it's because she's promoting the film Ghost Rider on a Canadian television show. Ghost Rider, although it sounds like a paranormal reality show, was a film written and directed by Roman Polanski that starred Ewan McGregor and Pierce Brosnan.

[Chelsea Fairless]

See, I'm more shocked that I didn't know that she was in a Roman Polanski film.

[Lauren Garoney]

She is in a Roman Polanski film just a year after appearing in Sex and the City to how.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Because you would think that would be like her rock bottom that would come decades after the Sex of the City film.

[Lauren Garoney]

I want to discuss the bizarre cognitive dissonance with celebrities when it comes to Roman Polanski. I think for Kim Cattrall, her rock bottom was saying Lawrence of my labian Sex and the city 2. And for someone of Roman Polanski's caliber, I'm putting that in quotes like, oh, Roman Polanski wants me in a film. Because I truly think Chelsea, to us, we know what happened and we will get into this in a second. I literally think that celebrities are like, yeah, that thing where he had to to go to France in the 70s, you know, because he had sex with what, a 17 year old the day before she turned 18 and you know, there was a judge out to get him. It's like, no, he sodomized a 13 year old after plying her with drugs and alcohol.

[Chelsea Fairless]

And there's really no shortage of publicly accessible information about this case. We don't have to speculate about it. But what's more disturbing is that Kim Cattrall has literally like invented a story that she has told this journalist.

[Lauren Garoney]

So I want to get into that because you're right, a few things Kim says, well, he admitted to it. Yes, he admitted to having sex with a 13 year old because he thinks that that is completely cool and normal and fine. And he does not think that there's anything wrong with that. She also says that he served his time. In another part of the interview, she's like, he served 11 months.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Where did she get that number?

[Lauren Garoney]

He did not, by the way. He was ordered to go to a 90 day psych hold. He was only there for 45 days. According to his Wikipedia, which this is based on some Jack Nicholson book. But he heard from his screenwriter friend who was golfing with a lawyer buddy that the judge was going to revoke the plea deal. We should say that he pleaded guilty. He pleaded not guilty. But the victim, who I don't want to say her name because she has been on record that essentially the last. Now at this point, almost 50 years of discourse about this event has been more traumatic than the event itself. She did not want to stand trial. So they had no other choice but to give him a plea deal where he was going to plead guilty to having sex with a minor. Although he maintains it's consensual. Whatever he heard from someone who heard from someone else that the judge was going to revoke that and give him 50 years in prison. So he fled to France and has never come back.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Okay, who gets 50 years for rape? For one thing?

[Lauren Garoney]

I tried to find the documentary she could have been talking about and I think I found it. It's on YouTube. It's a documentary called Roman Polanski Wanted and Desired. And in this documentary, his friends are interviewed, the lawyers, and not the actual judge himself, but people who worked around the judge are interviewed for this documentary, but Roman Polanski's own friend, in defending Roman Polanski having this affair, this sexual encounter with this teenager uses the fact that just mere years before, Roman Polanski had an affair with a 15 year old Natasha Kinski. And that launched her career. And clearly this 13 year old saw that and was like, well, if I sleep with Roman Polanski, I can become a star. It's like, that's not helpful, dude.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It's also dark. I don't get it. Really, because this isn't just Kim Cattrall that we're talking about. There are many celebrities that have made statements publicly supporting Roman Polanski. Famously Whoopi Goldberg, Quentin Tarantino. I feel like that clip I see on social media here and there, I don't understand it because it's like, yeah, we all fucking love Chinatown. I get it. Respect, you know, we love Rosemary's Baby. Roman Polanski is one of the founding fathers of the glamorous women having nervous breakdowns genre. And we respect him for that.

[Lauren Garoney]

But he is a rapist.

[Chelsea Fairless]

He is a rapist. He did rape a child. And I don't understand why people are bending over backwards to defend him. Two things can be true.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, there was that infamous letter that a bunch of people signed to have Roman Polanski be able to come back into the United States and that bid a lot of especially woke women in the ass in the post metoo era. I don't want to get the names wrong, but, like, you know, Susan Sarandon signed that and obviously Mia Farrow did.

[Chelsea Fairless]

And he's not even fucking American, so who cares if he comes here or not? That's what I don't get. It's like. And I'm all for, like, keeping out these kinds of violent criminals. Just saying, Right?

[Lauren Garoney]

We should say that. The Academy in 2003 gave him a Best Director Oscar for the Pianist. Adrien Brody is the youngest Academy Award winner in history. At the age of 29, he won his first Oscar for the Pianist. Roman Polanski could not be there to collect his award because he would have been arrested. We should say he fled to France because France won't extradite their citizens to the United States. And he has gotten into trouble where he has gone to other film festivals. I think. I think it was the Zurich Film Festival where he heard that he might get arrested and, like, went right back to France. Anyway, I don't know what to do with this resurface. Kip Cattrall clip. I don't think there's going to be a VIP episode of the Ghost Writer in our future.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Also, we really glossed over the fact that she drew parallels between this case and Amanda Knox. What?

[Lauren Garoney]

Right. As an example of the miscarriage of justice. By the way, if the documentary that I found is the one she watched to, quote, educate herself on, there is a lawyer that makes the point that if they were even going to give him one year of jail time, he was never going to serve time in jail, because Roman Polanski's lawyer would have just appealed it and kept appealing and appealing it. So I don't believe this he was going to spend 50 years in prison thing.

[Chelsea Fairless]

If he wanted to stay, he should have just stayed. He would have served a minimal amount of jail time, if any.

[Lauren Garoney]

And clearly, as we've seen, no one has a problem working with him. Also, this has been my thing about Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I know that everyone loves that film. I enjoyed that film as well. But it's Quentin Tarantino's weird fanfic to kind of vindicate Roman Polanski in a way. Like, I just can't help but feel like, well, he would have never been arrested if Sharon Tate wasn't murdered. Like, he would have been the great family guy that he was destined to be if his wife wasn't savagely murdered. Also, we're gonna say that Sharon Tate gave him the book Tess, which is a movie he later made with his former lover, Natasha Kinski.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Oy vey.

[Lauren Garoney]

We have a new sponsor, Wayfair. I am so thrilled to have Wayfair as a sponsor because they truly saved my life on a weekly basis when I was renovating my place. I know they want me to talk about their bedding and furniture and home decor and all of that is great, but I want to highlight a category that I think is Slept on, which is home hardware. When all the fancy stores had what I wanted, a backorder, Wayfair had it in stock. Less expensive than at my home in days, I found most of my sink and bath faucet trim from Wayfair as well as my doorknobs. A very specific slim Kohler toilet I needed for my teeny tiny powder room. Wayfair had it. And the construction phase may be done, but we've entered the decoration stage and Wayfair's huge selection of home decor items makes it easy to find exactly what's right for you and me. What have I been looking for? Thank you for asking. Multi tier silver serving trays, chic folding chairs for dinner parties, outdoor mats, compact but cool dish drying racks. And the list goes on and on. But I know Wayfair will have it at a fair price. See what I did there? Get organized, refreshed and back on track this new year. For way less, head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all new things. That's W A Y-F A I R.com Wayfair Every style, every home. Shall we get into the Golden Globes?

[Ad Host 1]

Sure.

[Lauren Garoney]

What is it like watching the Golden Globes in Australia?

[Chelsea Fairless]

It is bizarre watching an award show at noon. But I don't hate it. I kind of like making a whole day out of it.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, here in LA, the award ceremony starts at 5 and then the red carpet is at 3. Although the red carpet is is dwindling. We'll get into that in a little bit.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, I didn't see much red carpet stuff.

[Lauren Garoney]

So one bell after another sweeped. First award of the night, Best supporting actress Teyana Taylor won. That is what I love about awards season. I was just saying last week that it seemed like Amy Madigan was the shoe in and it would be a sweep for her. But now we got a contentious race.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, we ride hard for Paul Thomas Anderson in this movie. In her performance. It's also nice to see someone win that is overcome with emotion and who.

[Lauren Garoney]

Comes with a speech.

[Chelsea Fairless]

She came with a speech. She looked amazing.

[Lauren Garoney]

She was emotional, she was excited. She had said on the red carpet that she wanted to meet Julia Roberts. Julia Roberts was, like, up there with her, giving her a hug as she made it to the stage. Like, I always love stuff like that.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, Good for her.

[Lauren Garoney]

Can I tell you my one pet peeve about every award show? Somebody help these women walk up the stairs when they're receiving their awards.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, that's a more useful task than, like, handing the Golden Globe to the presenter.

[Lauren Garoney]

And it's so funny to me that now that the conversation about nepotism has never been hotter, that they retired the Ms. And Mr. Golden Globe, which used to be the child of an actor, would be the people giving the golden statues to the award winners.

[Chelsea Fairless]

See, that sucks, because that's how we discover a lot of Nepo babies.

[Lauren Garoney]

What other good stuff happened?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, I'm glad that Paul Thomas Anderson won for screenplay. He thanked both Jungle Pussy and Thomas Pynchon. And that is a combination of influences that I could have never foreseen.

[Lauren Garoney]

But that's what makes him him.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It is always cute seeing him with Maya Rudolph. I wish he would write something for her just once, because she had a bit part in Inherent Vice. Yeah, but that was more of a cameo. She was like a secretary or something, as I recall.

[Lauren Garoney]

Perhaps they don't want to mix business with pleasure. I think the fun thing about P.T. anderson making a film which happens every, like, three to five years is, like, the Internet rediscovers that he's with Maya Rudolph. What else was good? This was the first year that a podcast won.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. And I realized that's probably why they took out the lifetime achievement award to make room for this podcast category.

[Lauren Garoney]

That and Best Box Office Achievement.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yes. I liked the bit that Nikki Glaser did for that.

[Lauren Garoney]

I was gonna say even stronger than the award itself, which Amy Poehler won, which I've made this point before. It seems like the podcast category is just to get the actors who no longer do television and now are just podcasters to come to the Golden Globes. But I thought what was even better was Nikki Glaser's podcast bit, which was her version of the infamous Nicole Kidman AMC ad. I did wonder if her stylist sourced the Michael Kors AMC jumpsuit that I am in possession of.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It looks like a replica to me. Or maybe I'm just crazy. To me, that was, like, a little outdated. Like, even when we were doing that AMC bit in our live show last year, I was like, this is maybe like, a year too late to be doing this. Just because that tour stretched on for Longer than we anticipated. But the way that she satirized podcasts was hilarious. The Bombus ad, the Jane Goodall call her daddy interview. Also, my condolences to the daddy gang.

[Lauren Garoney]

Oh, because Alex Cooper lost.

[Chelsea Fairless]

She did.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yes. The appearance of Marc Maron, I mean, yes, very funny.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, that was a genius touch.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah. The Nicole Kidman of it all is a little outdated, but the juxtaposition of podcast and how intimate they are, they're in people's ears. And then, yes, we're going to a Bombus ad. Shout out to Griffin Newman, who was the voice of the Bombas ad. He is the host of Blank Check, a podcast that I love. What other moments did I love? Steven Graham won. I do not remember much of his accepted speech other than the fact that he pointed out Queen Latifah in the crowd and how much he loves her.

[Chelsea Fairless]

What did you think about Nikki Glazer in general, though?

[Lauren Garoney]

I thought that she was good. I don't think it was as strong as the previous year, but she's now a known quantity. I thought the bit about Leo was pretty funny, where she's talking about how everything you've accomplished before your girlfriend turned 30, and then she's like, that's a super cheap joke. But, like, literally, we don't know anything about you. Like, your most in depth interview is a Teen beat interview from 1991. And then she's like, wait, is your favorite food still pasta? Pasta, pasta. And then within an hour, someone found that interview. It's a real interview she was referencing.

[Chelsea Fairless]

That's cute. I liked the bit she did about Sean Penn aging into looking like a leather handbag. Very true. Also very cool that he was just smoking during the ceremony.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah. You could see as people were going on stage and accepting awards, there was like faint smoke on stage. You were like, where is that coming from? And of course, it's Sean Penn.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It seems like Jack Nicholson has passed the torch to him as the most sort of unhinged person abusing substances at an award show.

[Lauren Garoney]

Honestly, someone needs to be off the cuff at the Golden Globes. That used to be the joy of the Golden Globes, and I feel like they're now just kind of any other award show. I also feel like so many award shows now also combine and award movies and television. So, like, there's kind of nothing unique about the Golden Globes anymore other than there's alcohol at the table. Although. Is that even true anymore?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, there's still alcohol, but I think because there's alcohol, it's like we want the Golden Globes to be a little more dangerous. And I feel like Nikki Glaser's jokes were pretty safe for the most part. I think the most danger came from Wanda Sykes, who was so great, who presented the best comedy special.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yes. The other reason, I guess we can't have the Cecil B. DeMille Award anymore. On the live broadcast, she basically read all the nominees to Filth or two in particular. She said about Bill Maher, bill, you give so much. I would like a little less. And it's great because you can see Bill Maher's smile fall as he's hearing her say that.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, he clearly was actually offended. I feel like he should have laughed it off. It's like we do get too much from Bill Maher. Like, just his show would be enough. But now we also have Club Random.

[Lauren Garoney]

And more than that, we have our dads telling us about what's happening on Club Random. And then when she was talking about Ricky Gervais, who was not there that evening, she said, ricky, if you win, I'm going to thank God because he's famously an atheist and the trans community on your behalf. And he did win, and she did thank God and the trans community on his behalf, which I don't think he's made any commentary on. Which is actually the boldest move of like. I used to host these award shows six times. I would talk shit to celebrities to their faces. Haven't been invited back. Got nominated for one. Didn't go.

[Chelsea Fairless]

One.

[Lauren Garoney]

Didn't go.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Would like to think that he can take a joke.

[Lauren Garoney]

I don't know. He seems to be dangerously getting into, like, the J.K. rowling territory. Speaking of which, let's discuss the bad. I personally would like to discuss with you who was the DJ of the ceremony.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Oh, my God. The soundtrack should constitute a criminal act. Like it was a crime against culture.

[Lauren Garoney]

We have not watched Sentimental Value. Hopefully we will remedy that this weekend. But I think because of Anatomy of the Fall and its ironic use of $0.50, what was the song?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Pimp.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah, that when. That when Stellan Skarsgrd won for Sentimental Value and Usher's yeah started playing, I was like, wait, is that ironically in Sentimental Value? Because it was so early in the night? There has to be some reason, some relevance that this song is being played. And the answer is no.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. I don't even think they tailored the song choice to the winner at all. I think they were going to play Usher's. Yeah. Regardless of who won, what was your.

[Lauren Garoney]

Favorite off putting needle drop during the.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Award ceremony, it was when Adolescence won and they played Bruno Mars, 24 karat magic. Is that what that song is called? I think so.

[Lauren Garoney]

Something like that. Yeah.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It's truly like the weirdest vibe.

[Lauren Garoney]

Mine is also related to Adolescence, but when the therapist from Adolescence One and then Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch is Good Vibrations took us into the commercial break.

[Chelsea Fairless]

The thing is, this could have been even worse if there were like, sadder darker films that had wonderful, like, I get that sentimental value. Very different tone than Ushers. Yeah. But like, would they have just played that if. I don't know. To go back to the pianist, you know?

[Lauren Garoney]

Yes. If Zone of Interest won, would they be playing.

[Chelsea Fairless]

That's exactly it.

[Lauren Garoney]

Good Vibrations. Another thing I didn't love was Judd Apatow's bit as a presenter. He was presenting Best Director. He started by talking about his beef with the Hollywood Foreign Press ever since his film Trainwreck lost best comedy against known comedy, the Martian. And that was funny. That is when the Hollywood Foreign Press really started to get a lot of flack for just trying to get as many celebrities in a room as possible and kind of mislabeling films that are clearly not comedies. Comedies. But then when he was announcing the director, which I knew it was going to be Paul Thomas Anderson, but he did this bit where he was like, I don't know how you say this name, Paul Thomas Anderson, which is like, it's a hack bit, but it was kind of in poor taste. When you have a Mexican, an Iranian, a Norwegian and a Chinese director also nominated in that category.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, well, that was the whole joke, which I agree. I found distasteful also.

[Lauren Garoney]

And if you go back and look at the footage, the director of it was just an accident. Genuinely looks bummed.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I know. That made me sad.

[Lauren Garoney]

And to be fair for him, his film won the Palme d'. Or. So like he could conceivably. And it is the Hollywood Forum press, they do love to give awards to more foreign nominated people than any other award show. So, like, his face did fall in a way of like, he. He took that bit seriously.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Judd Apatow sucks for that. But he did give us girls. So something to remember.

[Lauren Garoney]

I'm back to talk about one of our favorite sponsors, Quints. And yes, I said our because I am joined by the one and only Chelsea Fairless.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yes, Lauren may be the one that does the Quint ads, but I do shop there.

[Lauren Garoney]

You recently got some betting at Quints?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, we got the European linen duvet cover. It's a whole set actually in espresso, which is very fab. They also have many gingham options. If you're going for a Kendall Jenner Mountain house vibe, Quince has it all.

[Lauren Garoney]

From clothes to bedding and furniture. Quince has been a godsend since having a baby as Morty always needs something. I recently needed to get a down puffer bunting for the brisk New Mexican winter. And of course Quince had a cute one that didn't break the bank. And they are expanding into new and exciting categories like Chelsea. Were you aware that Quince now sells caviar?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Wait, what?

[Lauren Garoney]

That's right. Quince is now selling their own royal, et cetera, caviar for $125 a steal compared to the $225 you'd pay with a traditional retailer. I saw someone on TikTok trying it so I had to see for myself as a caviar girly. I will report back.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I'm sure it's fab because everything from quints is made from premium materials in ethical trusted factories, then priced far below what other luxury brands charge. Here on the Every Outfit podcast. We may have taste, but we're also trying to stick to a budget.

[Lauren Garoney]

Indeed. It's a new year. Refresh your wardrobe with quints. Don't wait. Go to Quince.com outfit for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada too. That's Q-U-I-N-C-E.com outfit to get free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com/outfit what else did you not love about this? Golden Globes? Ciao.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, I was expecting to see Sarah Jessica Parker.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah, I had at least said in last week's episode, well, I'm sure like the Academy Awards, they're going to shout out the people that won. You know, Helen Mirren will be there, Sarah Jessica Parker will be there. There'll be a little mini segment about the Golden Eve. And no, instead we got poly market betting.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Terrible. Also, that like UFC bit really did not land.

[Lauren Garoney]

The show airs now on cbs. CBS is owned by Paramount, which is now owned by the Ellisons, which paid over a billion dollars to start licensing the UFO ufc. So before the heated rivalry guys came out, the bit worked in the beginning where it was like these guys need protection. And then two UFC fighters in their full UFC gear and their belts came out. But then they just like walked off stage and then Hudson and Connor walked onto stage without any protection. Like it just didn't make Any sense?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, it was confusing.

[Lauren Garoney]

It was very clear, given I felt like the tepid reaction in the room to the heated rivalry guys, that I'm like, oh, half the people in this room don't know what this show is like. There's a whole other Hollywood going on that these people actually don't know is going on.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, they both looked really cute, I have to say. Also, can we talk about the weird geotagging thing?

[Lauren Garoney]

You're going to geotag the nominees as they're being announced so that we, the audience, know where they are.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I know as someone that has watched hundreds of award shows, I have never once thought to myself, like, gee, I wish I knew where all of the nominees were sitting in relation to each other.

[Lauren Garoney]

I mean, that part I didn't mind. But, like, if you watch the Golden Globes habitually, the way that we do, the one thing about that award show is no one can figure out how to get to the stage. So it's like you've geotagged where the nominees are but no help to help them find the stage.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, it also just makes you realize who got shitty seats, which is.

[Lauren Garoney]

I don't. You didn't finish the studio, so you didn't get to the Golden Globe episode.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I need to finish this studio. I meant to. I just didn't.

[Lauren Garoney]

There is a Golden Globes episode that gets into this where Seth Rogen's character is at table four and Ike Baron Holtz, his right hand man, is at table, like 172. And then Seth Rogen won for the studio.

[Chelsea Fairless]

That doesn't surprise me. I feel like I anticipated that they would win. The industry loves the industry.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah. But I was surprised that Jean Smart has still remained strong and winning in her category for Hacks.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It is just like an impossibly fab performance. It's the best character. I'm not surprised that she keeps winning. I mean, this does remind me of Candice Bergen winning for Murphy Brown for 10,000 years, year after year. Yeah. And also it's a pretty similar character.

[Lauren Garoney]

If you think about it, to Murphy Brown.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah.

[Lauren Garoney]

I think my favorite speech of the night was Rose Byrne, who said that her husband, Bobby Cannavale, who we all know is the man that played the funky tasting spunk, was not her date that evening because they're getting a bearded dragon and he was at a reptile show in New Jersey.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Also, I realized I've never heard her talk before, so I didn't know she was Australian.

[Lauren Garoney]

Oh, yeah.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Until that moment. Although I kind of think Chanel did her dirty with that dress.

[Lauren Garoney]

With that dress that looks exactly like Keira Knightley's dress from Atonement.

[Chelsea Fairless]

If you had told me that that dress was Ralph Lauren or airdam or Stella McCartney, I would have believed you. To me, there's nothing Chanel about it. So I don't really get why they did that. Like if I was wearing Chanel, I would want to look like a Chanel cartoon at the Golden Globes.

[Lauren Garoney]

You want to be full tweeted out.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Just give me all of the things, not even so much as a camellia.

[Lauren Garoney]

You're going to look like Keira Knightley from 20 years ago and you're going to like it. Rose Byrne. Another thing that I did not realize was missing from the Golden Globes until the podcast category was no clips for the nominees. Except there were clips for the podcasts.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Which is so weird because I feel like probably more people are familiar with those podcasts than some of the films that were nominated.

[Lauren Garoney]

I agree with you. I mean the time saving measures that award show producers think matter are never the ones that like the ever dwindling award show live audience wants to save time and I guess make time for the UFC added segment was that they cut the best score which that guy Ludwig won for Sinners and they did that in a commercial break.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Oh, the guy that like always wins.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yes, the, the new Hans Zimmer.

[Chelsea Fairless]

You know what I was happy about though? That Michelle Williams won for Dying for Sex. She wasn't there.

[Lauren Garoney]

Can you remember another award show year where this many people, especially winners, just weren't there?

[Chelsea Fairless]

They couldn't be.

[Lauren Garoney]

I think that's kind of cool.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I don't know. I like to see people have their moment. I mean, I didn't need to see Ricky Gervais have his moment, whatever. But you know, you win some, you lose some.

[Lauren Garoney]

Maybe it's because specifically the Golden Globes are now airing on a Paramount owned television show. But like the sports ification of award shows, I don't need between the, you know, sports betting show was sponsored by polymarket, the UFC segment, and then also having Mark Malkin and Kevin Frazier backstage giving commentary like it's a boxing match, which I feel like gets us into the current state of the red carpet and red carpet commentary in general. So you were not privy to a lot of what was going on this year because you were in Australia. But they brought in a lot of social media people to host various red carpet shows which has been going on for years. So Mary Beth Barone hosted the Golden Globes Social channels. Red carpet. Karim from Subway Takes did a Hollywood Reporter Spotify pre show. Teffy did the red carpet for the cut, which I think she's done for a couple of years. And this is my hot take, Chelsea. The red carpet died the day we stopped asking people what they're wearing. And I get where that impulse came from. Askusmore. But the more we're asking these days is stuff like, would you rather give up memes or music for a year? And that is real. Karim from Subway Takes asked Odessa Asian that question on the red carpet.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I didn't see any of that. But I do like him. I do enjoy Subway Takes.

[Lauren Garoney]

My issue is that no one is talking about fashion on the red carpet anymore.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, I saw some of Mary Beth's clips, and she did, which I appreciated.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, she's a very fashionable person.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I like what she said to Mark Ronson about his YSL outfit. She was like, so is this windbreaker just okay for a red carpet because it's expensive? I was like, that's a very, very good read.

[Lauren Garoney]

But I do feel like the days of Joan Rivers are long gone for a few reasons. One, I don't think anyone on the red carpet would have the cojones to gag if they saw an actress in a garish colored dress the way that Joan Rivers dry heaved when she saw Nicole Kidman for the first time in her chartreuse Dior gown at the 1997 Oscars.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, Joan Rivers, as much as I love her, is a sadist on some level, as was Mr. Blackwell, who was her predecessor.

[Lauren Garoney]

I think the other thing is because of people like Mr. Blackwell, the worst Dressed list, Joan Rivers celebrities live in fear of being on the worst dress list, and so they make very safe red carpet choices.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, actually, can we get into fashion now? Because I want to talk about Teanna Taylor a bit, who was my pick for best dressed of the night. But I found her Schiaparelli gown to be so fascinating because it really, like, fused together two award show tropes that we're really used to, which is the old Hollywood glamour thing, right?

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Fairless]

And then the fashion faux pas, which was this sort of rhinestone thong in the back. It was both of those things.

[Lauren Garoney]

Right. Because we've discussed how there seems to be two modes where people either do 1950s glamour drag or they dress like Cher. And you're correct, this was a combination of the two of these concepts.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. This was very much part of the lineage of Cher, which really signals how much the general public's taste has changed even, like, 15 years ago ago, I think this would have been on worse dress lists.

[Lauren Garoney]

Oh, absolutely.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Also, Jenna Ortega. That was another very Cher outfit.

[Lauren Garoney]

I was gonna supply Jenna Ortega because she is also Tiana Taylor. Jenna Ortega in Dara Findiculu also. Those are my two best dressed women on the red carpet.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I didn't love her hair, though, I have to say. A little bouffantish, a little, like, romantic, maybe soft.

[Lauren Garoney]

This goth Persona works very well for.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Her, but I'm like, is she actually goth at all?

[Lauren Garoney]

Absolutely not.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Because I think you do kind of need to be a bit goth. Like, that's why it works for Cher. Not that she's goth in a sort of I listen to the cure way, but there's something about Cher where that feels authentic to her.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, yeah, There's a darkness within Cher for Jenna Ortega. How a lot of celebrities like Jennifer Lawrence have gotten a roll Ification style makeover. Like, that's kind of what they did with Jenna Ortega because she's in Wednesday.

[Chelsea Fairless]

They were like, this works for you. So you're goth now? Yes.

[Lauren Garoney]

Which I was like, wait, she's nominated for Wednesday? Is Wednesday a good show?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I watched the first couple of episodes and didn't stick with it. I can't answer that question.

[Lauren Garoney]

Can I get your thoughts? Speaking on Cher and kind of goth look. Thoughts on Timmy and chrome hearts?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Is that what he was wearing?

[Lauren Garoney]

That was a chrome hearts look.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Didn't care. I mean, I've been on record. I don't care about chrome hearts at all.

[Lauren Garoney]

Chrome Hearts, a look that Cher, I feel like, was a leader of.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It looks good on Cher. It looks good on the guys that work in the west Hollywood store. But beyond that, I just personally don't see the appeal of it. Although I, of course, respect the brand that they've built. It is the biggest fashion brand that is based out of Los Angeles.

[Lauren Garoney]

Given the custom look that he and Kylie wore to the Marty supreme premiere, I wasn't expecting him to go back and wear chrome hearts on the red carpet this soon.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I just found it boring. Whereas, like, Mark Ronson and ysl, I thought that was really major and cool and the kind of thing that Timmy would normally wear.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah, if you're gonna do casual on the red carpet, that the way that Mark Ronson did it was the way to do it.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I also thought that Selena Gomez looked really gorgeous in Chanel, and I think that she got the best Chanel look out of everyone that was there.

[Lauren Garoney]

She was very pretty. I do appreciate that she was nominated as Was Martin Short and Steve Martin for only murders left in the building. Only murders in the building. This is clearly a show that I do not watch. But after they all lost, they just left the award show and went to Max and Helen's, that new diner on Largemont, which fuckettes don't ask for our review of Max and Helen's. I will not be waiting three hours for a waffle. Okay.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Nor will I.

[Lauren Garoney]

Other men that I thought looked great, Hudson, Williams and Armani prive.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Gorgeous.

[Lauren Garoney]

If you're not going to wear a tie, I think that's the way to do it. Also Michael B. Jordan, also in Prada, looked great.

[Chelsea Fairless]

You know, a menswear look. I also fudged with was Amy Madigan in Tom Brown's. Nice to see a woman in a tuxedo was very cute that Ed Harris was also wearing a tuxedo. This was the kind of outfit that we would normally only see on a costume designer, like a wacky Oscar nominated costume designer. It's not something that an actor would typically wear to something like this. So I appreciated her. I also appreciated Parker Posey and I think I'm really fascinated by her red carpet choices because they do feel like costume design. It feels like she is playing a character of like a middle aged actress that went to the oscars in like 1985 wearing some like YSL ball gown that she bought on Rodeo Drive and.

[Lauren Garoney]

No one will loan to her and it's 35 years later and she pulls it out of the closet.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, like there's a, there's a theatricality to it. There is a real camp value. And Leith Clark has been styling her like this for a while. Like the styling of her reminds me of kind of what the styling in, in Gucci and Valentino fashion shows where it's like she's wearing a turban and.

[Lauren Garoney]

Aviators and a ball gown and it's.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Like this bitch looks fucking crazy. And it's a lot, but it's doing something.

[Lauren Garoney]

It's giving Norma Desmond like there is a screenwriter at the bottom of her pool.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I also thought of Norma Desmond when I was listening to that Kim Cattrall. No speech earlier in the episode.

[Lauren Garoney]

Some honorable mentions or I guess at least outfits. I would like to discuss that. I don't know if I have a positive or negative feeling about Jennifer Lawrence and Givenchy by Sarah Burton.

[Chelsea Fairless]

You know, I actually thought that was good. That genre of naked dress does feel outdated in a lot of ways, but it was a very well executed version of that look. And I Think the same success of it completely hinged on whatever that satin jacket or stole that she was wearing off of her shoulders. Like, that's what tied the look together. And when you saw the red carpet photos of her without it, it was like, this no longer works.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, the floral naked dress. It just felt like a sluttier version of something Taylor Swift would wear.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, it did. I think she looked beautiful. Kind of like the best she's ever looked. The color scheme was really good on her. She looked gorgeous. I'm like, what has she had done? Something's happening because, like, maybe she's in transition. Because, like, when I was looking at Emma Stone during the Golden Globes, I was like, oh, she has a completely new face. Like, it happened slowly.

[Lauren Garoney]

She showed up with a new face at the Begonia premiere. Trust me, I am in discussions with my facialist, with my nurses, my PAs. What are they doing? Allegedly a mid facelift in your mid-30s, which sounds crazy.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. But it wasn't even just a facelift. It's like she got, like, her eyes are here, huge. She got whatever that eye surgery is that makes your eyes just, like, look like mine. Yeah, exactly.

[Lauren Garoney]

An upper bluff. Yeah. Charlie XCX and Saint Laurent.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I was just kind of like, whatever. Like, she looks good, but didn't really move me.

[Lauren Garoney]

Shall we get into our worst dress, which I only have one because the red carpet people either looked really good or it's kind of too boring to comment on. There was, like, one person I found where I was like, this is disgusting. I hate this. And that would be John Krasinski in Dolce and Gabbana. He is wearing a velvet suit with a black turtleneck. It doesn't work. He doesn't look good.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Oh, right, because he's married to Emily Blunt.

[Lauren Garoney]

He is married to Emily Blunt, who was nominated for the Smashing Machine.

[Chelsea Fairless]

See, that was on my Worst Dressed.

[Lauren Garoney]

Emily Blunt.

[Chelsea Fairless]

The Emily Blunt. To me, this is not a far cry from something that Cindy McCain would wear.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, you want to talk about people with new faces?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Oh, does she have a new face also? I didn't notice that. Oh, I did not notice that.

[Lauren Garoney]

Just. You never want to be able to Google an actor, a celebrity, a model's name with the words before.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, you're right. I see it now. I mean, Louis Vuitton red carpet stuff. That's what that was. I find it completely baffling. I also didn't like chase infinities Louis Vuitton look. I hated that. Actually, if you remove the long black skirt, it is like something that Lady Gaga would have worn in this sort of fame monster era. Like, I hate a deconstructed mirror ball as a dress. Yeah.

[Lauren Garoney]

We've been on record. Louis Vuitton is not our favorite. On the red carpet, one of Carla.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Welch's clients, I don't. I'm not familiar with the actress wore like a really long silver Louis Vuitton that was basically just this long silver fringe and that was really beautiful.

[Lauren Garoney]

Oh, Veneta Rensvi from Sentimental Value.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Right. That I with that. But I feel like Carla Welch like, knows what to get out of the Louis Vuitton atelier, whereas other stylists, I don't know, maybe aren't as pushy with them or something.

[Lauren Garoney]

I think that's it when it comes to the Golden Globes.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. I don't have anything else to say.

[Lauren Garoney]

Therapy can help, but sometimes it isn't the whole answer. Tochiatry gives you access to real psychiatric care with licensed clinicians who can diagnose and prescribe medication if it's right for you. It's a simple way to get effective treatment right from home. Tochiatry is 100% online psychiatry practice that provides comprehensive evaluation, diagnosis and ongoing medication management for conditions like adhd, anxiety, depression, bipolar disorder, ocd, ptsd, insomnia, and more. A few months back, I was struggling with postpartum anxiety and it was impossible to find a psychiatrist to help prescribe the medication I needed. I really wish I knew about tochiatry then. All their 600 plus clinicians are in network with major insurers, so you can use your existing insurance instead of paying monthly subscriptions or out of network fees. You'll meet with an experienced licensed psychiatrist who takes the time to understand what's going on, builds a personalized treatment plan, and can prescribe medication when it's right for you. Your care stays consistent and evidence based. Getting started with talkiatry takes just a few minutes. Complete a short online assessment, get matched with clinicians who fit your needs and schedule your first visit in days, not months. More than 300,000 patients have already found high quality psychiatric care through tochiatry. Head to tokyotry.com outfit and complete the short assessment to get matched with an in network psychiatrist in just a few minutes. That's toxiatry.com outfit to get matched in minutes. Before we discuss Marnie supreme, do we want to discuss us some of the things we've been watching because we have different tastes?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Sure. I haven't been watching that much, but I have caught up on a couple TV shows. I watched Emily in Paris, the most recent season, and I know that you refuse to watch this show, which is really sad.

[Lauren Garoney]

Isn't she in Italy this year?

[Chelsea Fairless]

She's in Italy for the bulk of the season, yes. She's in Rome for, like, the first, like, like two thirds of the show. And then the finale episode is set in Venice.

[Lauren Garoney]

So this season does not take place in Paris, is what you're trying to tell me.

[Chelsea Fairless]

No. Part of it is in Paris. Part of it, but just only a few episodes are in Paris now.

[Lauren Garoney]

Like Stranger Things. Is Emily in Paris winding down or do we have another season of Emily in Paris?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Oh, it's not winding down. There is going to be another season. Thank God. This show is so fascinating because I love it. Despite hating Emily, genuinely don't care if she ends up with the French guy or the Italian guy or whoever. I am very invested in her work, though, and, like, whether her marketing campaigns work out or not. Also with Emily in Paris, she has a best friend played by Ashley park, who plays this character named Mindy. And, like, she's always singing covers of pop songs. It is so excruciating to watch, but it's, like, bizarre because it's like, like this woman can actually sing, but they make her sing like these like, fucked up arrangements of like, espresso and like, BTS's dynamite and shit. Like, they'll never just give her a song that's, like, in her range.

[Lauren Garoney]

Is the fabulous French woman that looks like a French version of Jennifer Gray. Is she still on the show?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Sylvie?

[Lauren Garoney]

Yes.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I'm most invested in. In Sylvie and her whole world. She's great this season as always.

[Lauren Garoney]

You could use a Sylvie spinoff.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I could. I just. I love this show. It's very easy to watch. It goes down easy. You don't have to pay close attention. And the season ended with a sort of cliffhanger that suggests that Emily may go to Greece next year, which I'm ready for that. I'm ready for Emily and Mykonos.

[Lauren Garoney]

I know people have asked us to discuss a show that you're not watching, but I watch called Plurbus.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I need to watch that. It's not that I'm like, like trying to not watch it. I just haven't gotten around to it. I love Vince Gilligan.

[Lauren Garoney]

I think you would like the show. While not directly. I mean, it's kind of a UAP adjacent show. It's kind of a mixture of, like, I don't know, X Files with Invasion of the Body Snatchers, but It truly would be like if a happiness virus took over, but it didn't affect us. Like, we were such sarcastic bitches that it could not get into our system, which is. Is what happens. Like, billions of people. Some people die, but most people become pod people, and they're. They all have one hive mind. And then there's about eight people in the world that it just didn't affect, and they can't figure out how. And they're very, very nice to those people and will do anything that they ask. Like, the lead character is a lesbian romance novel writer, and, you know, one day she wants sprouts to be open, so they open up sprouts for her.

[Chelsea Fairless]

She picked sprouts of all grocery stores. That's fascinating.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, it takes place in Albuquerque.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Has she gone to a Bristol Farms before?

[Lauren Garoney]

Again, I say it takes place in Albuquerque. There's no Bristol Farms in Albuquerque, having just been there. These are shows. Like, I'm watching Plurbus, and I'm watching the Pit. And these are shows I define as shows I'm watching next to my husband. Like, these are shows he's watching. And because of that, I am also watching the show.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Right.

[Lauren Garoney]

Plurbus is unbelievably slow, and that is either the appeal of the show or the thing that people dislike about the show. I disliked it up until the season finale. And something happens which I won't spoil for you. That's so genius. In the last few minutes where it's like, I'm back, baby.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Okay, I don't know if you've sold me on this, but I will at least watch the pilot.

[Lauren Garoney]

It's a brilliant pilot. And then it's very slow and plotting. This is tough. I can't get into it without spoiling it for you, which I do not want to do, especially because I think you really would dig this show. And you don't have to watch it with someone who lives in Albuquerque, who every scene tells me where it's taking place.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Lucky me. That sounds like hell.

[Lauren Garoney]

But a funny thing is, because of the popularity of Breaking Bad. Do you know this about the Breaking.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Bad house that people throw pizzas on it?

[Lauren Garoney]

Yes, yes. And the. The owner is very upset. So to counteract that, Vince Gilligan built a cul de sac neighborhood for the show Plurbus, where the main character lives in, that is on the Netflix campus. So. So it won't happen. So people can't drive to it and set off fireworks or whatever. Speaking of Netflix, I want to know what you thought about the series finale. Of Stranger Things because although I have not watched it, I've heard a lot of people talking about how they hated it.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Look, I wouldn't say it was the strongest end to this series. This season did go off the rails. And the penultimate episode, as well as the season finale. Series finale, which was like two hours long, were cornier than usual.

[Lauren Garoney]

Have you heard the theory that one of the Duffer brothers was married to a writer director named Lee Janik or Janio? She made a movie called Honeymoon. She works in the horror space. She did the series of films for Netflix called Fear Street. There is a theory that she was a ghost writer on the first few seasons of Stranger Things, helped the Duffer brothers she was married to kind of hone in the story. And wouldn't you know it, their divorce was finalized last year before they completed the fifth season. And it just so happens that this season is messier than usual.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, no one honed in on shit, especially in the last episode. I mean, the noteworthy things that happened. First of all, Will finally came out of the closet in a way that no teenager in the 1980s would, which is sort of sitting down. His entire family, his entire friend group, and some other just random adults that happen to be there and just be like, guys, I'm gay mid crisis. While they should be trying to save, like, little Holly from Vecna or whatever. He's just like, I gotta get this off my chest. And it felt very After School Special, which does kind of work for Stranger Things just because of the time period it's set in.

[Lauren Garoney]

It being the 80s. Yes.

[Chelsea Fairless]

But, yeah, everyone was supportive. No one gave a shit about Will being gay. It was just weird the way that they did that.

[Lauren Garoney]

It seems like it has Game of Thrones disease. I won't say loss disease, because Damon Lindelof has been on record being like, we knew how to end it. The problem was the show was so successful that the network wouldn't let us end it. So we just had to keep extending the storyline. But Game of Thrones? Well, one, the writers ran out of books that they could adapt. But two, the rumor is that the David Benioff and D.B. weiss wanted to go make a Star wars film. And so they tried to wrap up the series as fast as possible. And that's why that final season is so messy. And the Duffer brothers, when the series began, were like, oh, we have the whole five seasons plotted out. And it's very clear to people who've watched the fifth season that there's no way that is possibly true.

[Ad Host 1]

True.

[Chelsea Fairless]

No, they did too much. They introduced another sort of alternate dimension in addition to the Upside Down. Like, the reveal was that the Upside down was just sort of like the gateway to this completely different land. And then it's, like, confusing because we have another dimension. Additionally, there's people going inside other people's minds, which gets really confusing. Not unlike our favorite Jennifer Lopez film, the Cell. So it's like there's people in alternate dimensions, there's people in different people's brains. It's just. It was too much.

[Lauren Garoney]

Okay, who's in Vincent d' Onofrio's brain before Tara Subkoff gets drowned?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Sadie, Sink and Will and many people.

[Lauren Garoney]

I'm joking. That is the plot of the Cell. Jennifer Lopez needs to jump into serial killer Vincent d' Onofrio's mind before Imitation of Christ designer Tara Sabkoff is drowned in a very elaborate prison cel.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It did owe a lot to the Cell. One thing that I forgot to mention to you that I liked about season five of Stranger Things is that Linda Hamilton is in it. Matthew Modine's character died, so he had to be replaced by another villain, which is Linda Hamilton, who is really more like an evil Jane lynch in this.

[Lauren Garoney]

Jane Lynch, Like Jane Lynch's character in Glee?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. Like, she's just kind of like blonde and mask and kind of lumbering around.

[Lauren Garoney]

You know what? She must have really wanted to do that part because famously, she married James Cameron after he made Titanic. Before Titanic came out, but after he made the film without a prenup, and then they got divorced two years later. So she doesn't need the money, I'm trying to say. So the material must have spoken to her.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, it's cute that she's in it just because of the 80s of it all and. Or wait, was the Terminator in the 90s? When did those movies come out?

[Lauren Garoney]

Terminator 1 was 84.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Okay, so there you go, 80s icon. But, yeah, to me, nothing to write home about. It didn't conclude in a satisfying way for me. Then again, I was never really invested in Stranger Things, so I don't really give a. At the end of the day, it's.

[Lauren Garoney]

Nice watching shows and not being completely obsessed and invested in them. I am excited for you to watch Pluribus, because I would love to know what you would do in this situation if you found yourself in it, because with every episode, I'm like, if I'm still me and everyone in the world, everyone I love is either dead or a pod person, I would just kill myself.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. Correct. Who wouldn't?

[Lauren Garoney]

I don't think this is a spoiler, but she wants to fix everyone. Like, she's trying to figure out a cure to make everyone go back to the way that they were. And it's like, lady, there's, like, six other people like you, and everyone you love is gone. Like, just put a bullet in your mouth and call it a day.

[Chelsea Fairless]

All right. Marty Supreme Time.

[Lauren Garoney]

I finally saw it.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I'm glad it's fresh in one of our minds, because I saw it, like, a month ago at this point.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, it is very clear this is the first Josh Safdie film they've previously directed. The brothers directed Good Time and Uncut Gems together. Then they separated. Benny Safdie made the Smashing Machine, which is what Emily Blunt was nominated for at the Golden Globes.

[Chelsea Fairless]

And did you see that?

[Lauren Garoney]

No.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Okay. I haven't seen that either.

[Lauren Garoney]

And Josh Safdie made Marty Supreme. And it is very clear that the Safdies, or I guess more specifically Josh Safdie, there's just a protagonist that they enjoy, or he enjoys, which is a charismatic, almost irredeemable asshole who just. Every person who comes in contact with them, their lives are ruined and made worse by knowing them.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I don't think that's true of Marty Supreme. I was going to say the common thread seems to be a Jewish man who hustles.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, there's also that, yes, like, I.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Feel like Marty Supreme Uncut Gems. It's a story about, like, when your hustling starts interfering with your family life.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, if you compare it to uncut gems, it's kind of two sides of the same coin, I should say. I. I loved Marty Supreme. I just was intrigued that in their other films or in Josh Safdie's other films, there is some kind of retribution comeuppance to the protagonist and. And how Marty ends up at the end of the film is interesting because I do think, as I was saying, it is compared to the Adam Sandler character in Uncut Gems. To your point of how hustling gets in the way of your family. I think Marty has a lot more latitude because he is so young, and it is about youth and what you can get away with in youth before responsibilities take over. Like having a child.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Right.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I'm obsessed with Marty Supreme. I found it to be completely gripping from the first scene. I'm obsessed with all the bizarre details in this movie, like the bathtub falling through the floor, Gwyneth Paltrow's necklace going down the drain. All of those Little sorts of things made it so special and so bizarre. Also, Isaac Mizrahi is a Broadway producer.

[Lauren Garoney]

You didn't warn me about that cameo.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I did. I totally warned you because, remember, I saw Isaac Mizrahi's cabaret act, like, whenever. That was, like, six months ago. And he talked about being in that movie then. So I've been looking forward to this for a while. I didn't realize he had such a major role. I thought it would be more like a cameo.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah, Sandra Bernhardt has more of a cameo than Isaac Mizrahi.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Also great. The best cast. No role is too small.

[Lauren Garoney]

Everyone did their thing, from Penn Jillette, who is unrecognizable as a New Jersey farmer in the film, to Abel Ferrara, who's one of my favorite directors, director of King of New York and Ms. 45, who essentially carries, like, the B or C plot of the film, which has to do with a missing dog that is his, which I have some logic questions about that, but it gets into spoiler territory. So I will talk to you about that off mic.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Also, how happy are we to see Gwyneth. Gwyneth in a movie that we like?

[Lauren Garoney]

I have it in my notes, and I had this feeling in the theater of, like, it feels so good to see her on screen.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It really, really does. We needed this. She was so great. I love how sort of dry and jaded her character was. I loved that bizarre sex scene in.

[Lauren Garoney]

Central park because I'm so Law and Order SVU pilled. I'm like, this is how many Law and Order SVU episodes have begun. What I also enjoyed about Marty supreme is how much this character is, in his own way, by just wanting a little bit more. Like, you've already referenced the bathtub sequence. There's a scene in the film where he meets up up with his friend, and he's trying to get a hotel room at a very cheap hotel. And he's haggling over the room charge. And the guy is like, you can have this room for $2.50, but you can't use the bathroom. And then the very next scene, he's in the tub. And I remember in my head, I'm like, wait, isn't he not supposed to? And then he falls through the bathtub. It's like he just has to keep pushing it and pushing it and pushing it. And instead of running for his light, he's arguing with the manager of the hotel that he would like a refund.

[Chelsea Fairless]

He needed to take a shower.

[Lauren Garoney]

Can we discuss Kevin o' Leary. Sure. Do you watch Shark Tank?

[Chelsea Fairless]

No. I mean, I have, but I know who he is.

[Lauren Garoney]

I think the biggest surprise of this film is the appearance of shark tank.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Shark.

[Lauren Garoney]

Mr. Wonderful. Kevin O', Leary, who. Given the way that. That Josh Safdie casts his films, where there's a lot of, like, Abel Ferrara, Penn, Jillette, where these people. Fran Drescher, who are kind of in a scene. I did not realize that he's kind of the third or fourth lead of this movie.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, he got a lot of screen time. He was great. Also loved seeing Nomi Fry briefly. Oh, yeah, the Broadway play scene. So good.

[Lauren Garoney]

I love scenes in movies where very good actors have to act like they're not very good actors. Oh, love. Or act in the way that Gwyneth Paltrow is acting in this sequence in the 1950s. Like, kind of halted acting style. I will not get into the end of the film. But this has recently been making the rounds because Josh Safdie was talking to Sean Baker for the A24 podcast, and he revealed the alternate ending or the original ending he wanted for Marty Supreme. And if you haven't heard it, Chelsea, you're never gonna guess.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Oh, I have heard it.

[Lauren Garoney]

Okay. So for those who haven't, the original ending of Marty supreme was that it was going to flash Forward to the 80s. Marty was going to be with his grandchild at a concert, a Tears for Fears concert, and Kevin o' Leary was going to bite him in the neck because Kevin O' Leary is a vampire. And understandably, A24 was, like, no.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Very strange choice. Although it did end with a Tears for Fears song, of course, which makes sense.

[Lauren Garoney]

Even though it is a film that takes place in the early 50s, it has this propulsive, very 80s, very risky business, real genius score to it.

[Chelsea Fairless]

The score is incredible.

[Lauren Garoney]

I've been playing it in my car.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Really?

[Lauren Garoney]

It makes everything very cinematic.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I'm sure it does. Also, I just love the idea of giving Fran Drescher a makeunder. Who would think to do that?

[Lauren Garoney]

I love Josh Safdie. I'm very intrigued what projects he does next. But I was surprised at how many overlaps it had with Uncut Gems. Beyond the protagonist, there's the opening sequence of Uncut Gems begins with Howard's colonoscopy. This film begins with sperm on its way to an egg.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Very. Look who's talking.

[Lauren Garoney]

Marty chisels a piece of the pyramids and gives it to his mother, which feels very similar to Kevin Durant and the. The diamond, the rock.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I need to revisit uncut gems. I just saw it once.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah. I'm grateful that this film was not as much of a panic attack as uncut gems. Like, it has an energy to it. And I know it's so annoying to say these days where it's like the film's two and a half hours but it flew by. But like it really did fly by.

[Chelsea Fairless]

No time is wasted. It's extremely entertaining. Also, the other obvious parallel with uncut gems. It's like these are the most New York movies I've ever seen in my life. Truly like Woody Allen level.

[Lauren Garoney]

And we should discuss the the production design and how incredible, you know, recreating blocks and blocks of 1950s tenement, I assume, Lower east side neighborhood.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Have you ever been to the tenement Museum in the Lower east side?

[Lauren Garoney]

I haven't.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It's incredible. I think everyone should go just because if you think, like having four roommates in Bushwick is bad, just wait until you hear about how these people lived back in the day. It's. It is truly fascinating, although very depressing at times.

[Lauren Garoney]

So now that I've seen Marty Supreme. You've seen Marty Supreme? We didn't even get into Timmy winning.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Oh, yeah. Well, he deserved it. Good for him.

[Lauren Garoney]

He was in the comedy category, which this film is very funny and I laughed out loud multiple times.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Must be weird for Leonardo DiCaprio losing to him. It's very like Demi Moore losing to Mikey Madison kind of vibe. Very All About Eve or I've seen.

[Lauren Garoney]

People use the gif of old Demi Moore looking at Margaret Qualley on the talk show. And the substance. Well, I think that does it for us.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Us. Yeah. I'm excited to see what this next week will hold for us. Will we get more Sex and the City news? Will the Kim Cattrall Roman Polanski situation spiral out of control? Will Sarah Jessica Parker release yet another ad on her Instagram account?

[Lauren Garoney]

Will Chris Noth release another thirst trap with a salty caption? Only time will tell.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Something tells me that he'll do something to make this situation work. We'll see, though.

[Lauren Garoney]

Until then, guys, bye bye.

[Ad Host 2]

This is the story of the one as an H Vac technician, he and his digital multimeter are in high demand. So when a noisy office H Vac turns out to be a failing blower motor, he doesn't break a sweat. With Grainger's easy to use website and product information. He selects the product he needs to keep everything humming right along. Call 1-800-GRAINGER clickranger.com or just stop by grainger for the ones who get it done.

[Ad Host 1]

Honestly, most young adults in Yakima county don't approve of driving impaired. It's just not the norm. Most of us plan ahead. Grab a ride, share or call a sober friend and your friends and family. They don't want you driving impaired either. Do what most people already do. Keep yourself, your friends and everyone on the road safe. Catch a ride, not a dui. Most Drive sober. A message from safe Yakima Valley this.

[Ad Host 3]

Podcast is supported by the RealReal. Meet Christine. She loves shopping and this is the sound of fashion overload. Too many fabulous things, not enough space. So Christine started selling with the RealReal.

[Lauren Garoney]

I've always loved collecting designer pieces, Gucci bags, Prada heels. But my style keeps evolving. Selling with the RealReal game changer. I earn more and they do everything.

[Ad Host 3]

Seriously. Just drop off your items or schedule a pickup. We handle the photos, descriptions, pricing, even shipping. You just sit back and watch your items sell fast to our 40 million.

[Lauren Garoney]

Members and I get peace of mind knowing I earn more selling with the RealReal than anywhere else.

[Ad Host 3]

Exactly this. That's the sound of your closet working for you. The RealReal earn more, save time, sell fast and only for the month of January. Earn up to $550 extra when you sell with the RealReal. That's right. Up to $550 extra. Go to therealreal.com to get started. Earn up to $550 extra this month at therealreal. Com terms apply.