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Jay Preston
We're like, okay, if we can do it there near a yurt, then I think we're all fine. Meg recorded auditions while I was driving on the highway.
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Rob
You know, if you've got certain places where you go to consistently, parents house, in law's house, whatever, it is nice to just come up with a setup.
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Jay Preston
Meg had to do dying zombie in a hotel, and it was like she was screaming bloody. I was like, people are going to think I'm killing you. We pulled over to a winery. I had to do a political. I just pulled over, turned the car off, did it. And they're like, it was great. Everything was great. We're using it.
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Podcast Host
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Rob
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Podcast Host
Are you on the edge of your seat yet? You should be.
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Rob
Pillow fort season is quickly approaching as voice actors prepare for the busy travel time. Thanksgiving, Christmas, holiday season coming up, New Year's, and my guest today is someone whom I think spends as much time in his pillow forts as he does in his regular home studio. Welcome back to the show, Jay Preston.
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Jay Preston
Hey, thanks so much. Thanks for having me.
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Rob
We originally recorded a podcast in November of 2021 where we talked about travel and recording from the road. So it's been a few years. Has pillow fort technology improved since then?
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Jay Preston
Yes. Yes, it has. It's funny because when we did it way back then, that was like me just getting started in it. I've been traveling and doing VO then for like, just a year, and now it's been all the years since technology has gotten better, microphones have gotten better. I've needed to build a better spot because I, you know, have gotten better and more work, and my wife and I do it together. So we need. It's like we need a studio more than the average Joe.
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Rob
Yep. I think one of the things that I have found that has made it actually A little bit more challenging is hotels have gotten cheaper, and you used to be able to go into a hotel room and open up the closet, and there was all kinds of extra blankets and extra pillows and all right. Everything you needed to build a pillow fort. And now more and more, it seems like you walk into those hotels and you open up the closet and there's no more extra blankets and there's no more extra pillows. And that's the whole thing to try to get them. And it's like, don't you understand? I'm a traveling voice actor. Like, you can't take this stuff out of the room.
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Jay Preston
Like, how do these hotels not know?
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Rob
Especially like, if you're at the Hilton for VO Atlanta. Right. Like, come on. We need. Need thousands of extra pillows and blankets. There's a lot of voice actors coming to town.
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Jay Preston
Absolutely.
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Rob
So I want to know a little bit more before we get started. I joked with Barry Tavares. I don't know if you're familiar with Barry or not, but I joked with her once before that she rebrand herself as the Nomad VO because at the time, I don't think that she actually lived in one place for any more than a month. And so she was constantly on the road and traveling with a. A, A tri booth actually she was using at the time. But I know you travel a ton. How much of your year is actually spent on the road and how much of it is actually spent at home in your studio?
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Jay Preston
Well, last year is the greatest example. Last year, my wife and I did four months on the road, 22 states. And that doesn't count to traveling to Boston over the. Because in Iowa, where her family is from, and in Boston, where my mom is. We've also. The things we bring with us on the road in our car, we've actually just bought twice and shipped them to those locations so that when we fly to home, we have the stuff to set up. So not counting those months, probably over half the year last year was spent traveling and doing voiceover in makeshift studio.
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Rob
So you have to get good at this and you're spending that much time on the road.
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Jay Preston
Yeah. And we. In the beginning of the trip, we were really excited. We wanted to try Starlink out. We were like, oh, this would be perfect. We'll get the Starlink Internet. And it was not perfect. It's not at that level yet. Our phone's hotspot is still better than Starlink, because.
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Rob
Interesting.
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Jay Preston
If anyone's viewed Starlink, you know, that it actually, which I didn't know, but it sounds like a dial up modem from back in the day. It has sound so you can't really have that near you. It also doesn't. You also have to have it outside and hardwired in. So it comes with this like 15ft of cable that you have to like run from one spot and then it needs, it needs clear view of the sky, which my hotspot does not. So like finding that in an Airbnb or a hotel. So it did not work for us. But luckily Source Connect's getting better and better. So it's like the new source Connect4 is working great and you don't need to have a eye lock or anything like that. And it's got all this audio buffering going on. So like we, we were able to connect in every state every week. Every week we were doing voiceover for like either repeat clients or new bookings and stuff like that. And we had zero problems. Not once did we have to like, yeah, even, even somewhere in Washington, Redwood Forest, we had horrible allergies and the Internet was like one bar. And I was like, oh, I don't know how we're going to do a Source Connect session. And it worked. And I was like, we were over the moon. We're like, okay, if we can do it there near a yurt, then I think we're all fine.
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Rob
So you mentioned source Connect 4. So you've upgraded?
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Jay Preston
Yeah, yeah.
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Rob
And no issues for you as far as. Did you find four actually worked better for what you were doing then?
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Jay Preston
Yeah, yeah, I mean I upgraded and also took the like the class that they offer so you can get certified. So I think that's also important to like, know what the technology is doing and how to bridge stuff and talk to engineers who haven't upgraded yet. So we've had to bridge a couple of times with people who haven't who are still on three night 3.9. But as long as you know how to talk them through it and get the bridge working, the bridge works great. Which is their solution to 39 to 4 since they don't talk to each other. Um, but once you get good at what all, all of it does and where to set your buffers and stuff like that. Yeah, it's been, it's been working great.
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Rob
Tell me about the kind of work that you're recording from the road. Is there anything that you don't do on the road?
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Jay Preston
No, I mean, it wasn't lucky, but we. The video game strike was happening during that travel last year, so we didn't do much video games on the road at all. But we have done games on the road. That is the hardest thing to do on the road because there's a lot of yelling, especially if you're in a hotel and especially if it's like a three, four hour gig. So video games we try not to do on the road. We'll try to find a studio that's nearby if we get booked on those. But all commercials, all elearning projects, all repeat client stuff is all handled. I was the voice of Presbyterian Health, still am, but that was the year they were getting going. So it was like every third week was another session and they all had to match the campaign and it did. So it also helps to have amazing engineers on the other side who are like audio wizards. Because we are pretty close to our booth. We've matched like our home booth and what we bring with us, which is like a 60 pound booth that takes an hour to set up. It sounds pretty close. And as long as you kind of know what to do with sound and how sound works and goes out and comes back and bounces off things, like, I think that's really important for people to like figure out. Like in the beginning, I think in, in 2021, I was saying I'd go into hotels and snap my fingers in every corner just to hear the echo back. Still do that. But now it's like I can hone in pretty easy now.
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Rob
Nice. Well, I think going back to what you mentioned earlier there, the, the, the most interesting part for me is that there's nothing that you're not willing to record or nothing that you are, you know, no genre is off limits other than like you said with video games, but that it's not even so much about the, the capability of recording on the road as much as it is just the nature of the session. And yeah, not wanting to scream for three hours in a hotel, that might, that might result in some phone calls to the front desk or, you know, police knocking on your door wondering if somebody's being murdered or what.
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Jay Preston
Meg had to do dying, dying zombie once in a hotel. And it was like she was screaming bloody. I was like, people are gonna think I'm killing it. Like literally people in the room were screaming, shut up.
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Rob
That's a courtesy call down to the front desk just to let them know that death is not actually happening up here. But other than that, and I mean, so then in that instance, it's nice where you have the option if you need to, to try to find a local studio or something like that. But by and large, everything you're doing, you're doing portable, on the road, in your hotel, in your Airbnb or whatever, working off your hotspots. That's good. I mean, I think the Starlink technology is probably something that will improve over time. But if the phone works right, why carry extra gear if you don't have to carry extra gear?
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Jay Preston
Yeah, and I just heard t mobile is linking up with them, so that's who I have on my and the hotspot works great. And then they're going to be bringing in satellite to the phone, which is exactly what I wanted in the first place. I think as it advances, you'll have satellite even when you don't have phone. And so it'll be great.
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Rob
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Jay Preston
Now back to our show.
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Rob
So tell me about your, your booth setup then. Are you, you mentioned you've got a £60 worth of stuff that you're hauling around with you. So not quite. Just a little tri booth or something.
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Jay Preston
So I'll just explain it. So they have these big like heavy duty like square metal things that you can buy on Amazon and they're, they're for like putting up a projector screen or like putting up heavy, heavy cloth that you can, like, clamp on. And there's like. So I buy two of those. Those are like 60 to 80 bucks each for the heavy duty ones. They're like heavy bases. So I have two bases. And think of those as your wall from left to right if you're like in a long booth. And the good thing about those, there's like, they can be from like 4ft or they can go all the way to, like, six feet in length.
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Rob
Okay.
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Jay Preston
And so it's very malleable that way. My booth at home is a converted closet. So it is a. It's a, you know, seven foot by. Or like eight feet by seven feet. It's like a rectangle.
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Rob
Okay.
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Jay Preston
And so, like, I want to make sure that I sound the same, right? So I kind of have the same kind of feeling. Then the front of it is this, like, T pole, like a little T pole that you would just hang like a poster on. And then I clamp on moving blankets to the sides. But the really important part is this audio mute blanket. It's this company called Audio Mute, and they make this incredible blanket that has. It's very, very thick, but one side of it allows your voice to pass through, and the other side is a different material that blocks it from coming back in. So if I was at a hotel or a place, Airbnb, and I set it up in one spot and there was a wall in front of me, I would like thumbtack towels and things like that to the wall to soften my voice there. But the important part for my booth, to make it work really good, is this audio mute blanket. It's like we have to bring it with us everywhere we go, or I buy them and ship them places because it's such a nice thick base. It's like a moving blanket, but it's really, really thick and made for doing this exact thing, letting your voice pass through nice and comfortably. And then if it does bounce off anything, it gets blocked from bouncing going back into that side. So it's pretty big and covers like the front of me and a little bit on each side. And then I just have moving blankets on the back. And then we always have. We have these, like, comforters that we have found in our travels, in our, you know, vintage shopping travels, or just like nice big thick comforters that are just great for the door in the back. And so all of that fits into this, like, six pound duffel bag, which is like 80 pounds or 60 to 70 pounds, like when. When carrying it. But it's got A roller. And then everything else is. Oh, the roof is important. The roof is like, you know, those little round, like they, they're round, but then they, they pop open to be backdrops for, like, green screen.
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Rob
Okay, yeah, yep, I know what you're talking about.
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Jay Preston
So we get one of. A big one of those because it's nice and round and, and you can bring it with you and fits in this duffel bag. And then it pops open and we put that on the roof because it just works perfect for the roof. And then you cover the roof with the blankets from the hotel and as many other blankets as you possibly can find. And then depending on how great that room is on its own, some rooms have paintings in them. And some rooms are pretty great. When you, when you click, there's not that much echo, but then the rooms that have a lot of echo, it's like, can we get a couple extra comforters? It is freezing in our room. And then you just drape it over. We've had. We've had. We've had some pretty big drapes. But the good thing about these big, heavy duty, whatever you call them, they're just, they're meant for a lot of weight. So like, even though I can put them up and down with just my hands and one tool, I can really stack and layer on these things and it won't collapse on me, which is like the worst thing that has happened. One time.
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Rob
I feel like the first time that we did this, that you were. I correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like at that point you had kind of a PVC structure that you were working.
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Jay Preston
Yeah, I was PVCing and then I went to metal.
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Rob
Metal now.
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Jay Preston
Okay, so the PVC was too flimsy and like, and. And the more things you put on it, the more things it would try to collapse on you.
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Rob
Try to collapse. Okay, so when you're traveling, you're taking this frame structure with you, you're taking your audio mute blanket with you, but you're relying on extra blankets and stuff like that from locations, wherever you are to be able to cover it up the rest of the way. Or do you travel with some sound blankets? I forget what you said there.
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Jay Preston
Yeah, we travel with like two comforters and two sets of pretty thick, like medium thick moving blankets. And then we have the audio mute thing, which is really thick and huge. But that's what we travel with. And we have to make everything in order to be able to travel and not just have your whole, you know, car or whatever filled with Blankets.
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Rob
Because you might want to take some clothes or something with you, right?
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Jay Preston
Yeah, you might want to take some other things. So yeah. And then the rest is all just make do. And if you ever need more things, I mean, the great thing about the hotels and stuff is like they just always have more blankets. So. And down, down blankets are fantastic for this kind of thing because it lets your voice pass through and, and it softens it, you know, do you take.
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Rob
This setup with you everywhere or are there times when you're, you know, you're going away overnight or you're going away for a weekend or you know, you're going to count on whatever it is using, using the ironing board and the luggage rack and makeshift and something in the hotel. Or do you. Does this go with you everywhere?
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Jay Preston
That goes with us when we are pretty confident we're going to have a scheduled session because. But we also love to travel and not have to do work. But we always do our auditions. Like we, we really try not to miss any because you never know when the one meant for you is coming. And with that, the newest, greatest, wonderful piece of technology is this Shure MCV plus or MV7 Plus. Have you tried that? Is that what you're using?
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Rob
I've got the SM7B, but I've heard about the new version.
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Jay Preston
Oh, it's amazing. So seven volts plus it has an onboard electronic pop whatever. So I, I don't ever pop. And then it has auto gain control. So like if I wanted to yell, I could just start yelling really loud. I could talk like this. And then it'll fix itself. So I'm always like, I'm about to yell and then I'll get into whatever yelling thing is and it fixes itself. Or if I'm going to be quiet, I'm like a sentence of quiet. First it fixes itself, so that's amazing. And then it also has an onboard noise canceller that does it real time. So like right now there's like two fans going, which I don't think you can hear.
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Rob
No, I. Nope, can't hear anything.
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Jay Preston
Yeah. So it's got this amazing. Like when we found this, it was thanks to Jason Lanier White. He was like, you need to try this. So we went and bought one, tried it and it was right before our road trip and it was amazing. Meg recorded auditions while I was driving on the highway and and has booked with highway auditions.
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Rob
Is it USB or is it xlr? Does it go through an interface or straight in?
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Jay Preston
It has both. But USB if You want all the technology to work. It's usb. So, like, when you plug it into the computer, USB style it is, it does all the stuff. If you just XLR it, you'll need the preamp and all that extra fun things. So it can be both. But I mean, for just taking it up for like two nights away or just taking it in the backpack and going somewhere for the day, knowing that I can just pop into the car and do auditions. Like, it was political season at the end of our trip, and we pulled over to. We were heading towards wine country, so we pulled over to a winery. I had to do a political. I just pulled over, turned the car off, did it, and I was like, cross my fingers. And they're like, it was great. Everything was great.
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Rob
It's.
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Jay Preston
We're using it. So you ever tell them it's.
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Rob
Or is. Is that part of the game? Like, after you've booked it and sent it, you're like, by the way, I recorded that one in the backseat of the car on the side of the interstate.
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Jay Preston
And yeah, some of. Some of our longtime clients know for a fact that some stuff comes from this, which, I mean, and it works like it's broadcast. It's still ready to go. Right.
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Rob
That's the thing.
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Jay Preston
If they can't tell and it sounds good. Yeah.
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Rob
So the biggest challenge in instances like that then I'm assuming would be, like you mentioned, you do it elearning. So you record some elearning at home, but then you're on the road and you got to do some pickups or they've made an update to the script or something like that. Yeah, it's then matching it.
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Jay Preston
We do our best. So, like, and I'll be completely honest, sometimes it doesn't match. So depending on, like, what time of day you did this elearning, you know, if it was like a morning elearn from home, my voice just has more rasp. So if I'm like, I'm trying to match that midday, I'm just going to give them a full new recording and not charge them because it's, you know, my bad. And, you know, so like, okay, you just wanted a pickup of this one paragraph, but here's all four minutes. Just because I don't think it'll match. Here's a pickup in case it does. So I'll give them that, you know, a couple versions of just the pickup. And just in case it doesn't match, I have a backup of the whole thing recorded.
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Rob
Let's talk a little bit more about equipment other than the shore. And we'll put some of this stuff in the show notes too. We'll make a list so that everybody can see what else you travel with, what is. What is in your kit.
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Jay Preston
Yeah, we always have a 416, so we have a 460. Yeah, they're amazing. And. And that's what's so great. It's like days when you need to, like, you know where the sound's coming from, and you need to, like, make sure the mic is not pointed in that direction at all. It really helps. So it's like, if I know there's a chance that it could be ice. Ice machine sound or something or.
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Rob
Yep, yep.
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Jay Preston
Or maids area sound or. Or if I'm near a window and that's the best place I can set the booth up. But it is near a window. I'll set it up so, like, we're. I'm. I'm facing the window and the microphone is not. So the 416. And then I really, really love the dpa 4060. It's omnidirectional. Little tiny mic they use on this on stage, on theater. They use it on Broadway. And Mark Esdale first got us into that a couple of years ago because he was starting to use it for video games. And now Insomniac uses it for their video games. They use two. One's on high level and one's lower. But it's amazing for. For travel because I. So you. It's a tiny little microphone, but you need to, you know, buy the little clamps that you can clamp it onto a hat or something. Not like a brim hat, but like a skull cap. And then you put it right. Right on your forehead, pointed down. And so your whole forehead acts as a barrier for a lot of sound. And then you can move around literally. It's great for, you know, animation, video game auditions, and stuff like that. It's because you can, like, literally get into character and it's just sit and you get perfect sound.
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Rob
No matter where you're worrying about moving off mic while you're getting in, you never have to worry about the character.
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Jay Preston
Yeah, it's really great. Yeah. And it's great for this booth set up, too, on the road, because it's like, you know, you're using. Your forehead is part of the setup. You know what I mean? And it's pointed down, and you're getting the best sound and resonance and stuff like that. Just coming right out. And you're always on mic you're always on point. And um, it's very useful when you get a smaller space and you can't, you know, fit your booth where you can and you know, have enough. As long as you have enough room for your voice to go and like, and you're not cramped and you don't sound like you're in a hole, you know, as long as you, you can be in a small space. But your voice needs to be able to, to get out of the booth in order for you to have good sound. But that's great. So that we bring the 4060 and it's so compact, it's like I can put it in my hand. But you'll need the XLR adapter. You'll need the little adapters to like position the mic where you want to position it. The skull cap, obviously. And then. And the other great amazing thing that's part of it all is the C Suite. We use Apollo Apollos when we travel for our preamps. But C Suite, C Vox. Do you, you. I'm sure you know that I am.
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Rob
Not familiar with that. I'm not an Apollo user, so I'm.
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Jay Preston
Oh, well, this might change your life. So if you try out Apollo a little bit, there is a plugin called C Suite cvox and it is a live in real time, I used to call it in real time noise suppressor or canceller or something. And you can just dial it up, dial it down. Almost zero artifacts we worked with, I mean we worked with it all over the country and no engineer, even the higher end engineers who were just like audio guru engineers, didn't even notice. They're always like, now if you have a noise gate or anything like that, everyone says that, but you have this on and it's, it's just literally taking out anything that's doing the hum. It's like realizing what is doing the hum noise or this like air conditioner hum or anything like that. It takes it out and then leaves your voice alone. And it's pretty fantastic.
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Rob
We're almost spoiled now. If you think about, you know, recording on the road a few years ago, right? Even go back 20, 21, right? You walk into a hotel room, you got to turn the furnace off or the air conditioner off. You got to unplug the refrigerator. You gotta like if you're by. If you're a window by the highway or you're at an airport by the airport or a hotel by the airport or like so many things, right? I have this really hilarious picture of my wife we were at a hotel in West Virginia and it had like the largest entertainment unit slash dresser system that you've ever seen in your life. That was just not. I could not move it, but we had to get behind it to unplug the refrigerator because the refrigerator was so loud. And I have this picture of her wedged down in there because thankfully she was half the size of me and she could fit. And I got this picture of her. She was like stuck in there, but I'm like, this is the stuff that you have to do in order to be able to record from the road. Except apparently now you don't have to do that stuff when you're recording from the road anymore. If you just have the right plug in.
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Jay Preston
Yeah, pretty much. I mean, we still turn the fridge off and make sure it's as quiet as we possibly can humanly make it. And then the plugin takes care of all the little things. You can't, you know, I mean, there are some hotels that have like that. It's like a perfect room, but it has. Right outside the window, two stories down is that generator that comes on. Yeah, there's like big generator. And that used to be a problem. Those things are no problem anymore now to these plugins and technology. And it's kind of amazing.
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Rob
These are the upsides of AI that nobody wants to talk about. Right. Too busy cursing out all the bad stuff of it. But some of this other amazing technology that actually makes it possible for us to do things like recording anywhere we want, that's AI technology at work as well.
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Jay Preston
Yeah, I mean, there's so much good about it that, you know, as long as you ain't taking my damn voice.
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Rob
That's right.
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Jay Preston
I'm happy to use it and make my life easier and travel more.
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Rob
So what else have you got? You got a couple of microphones. You're using the Apollo interface?
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Jay Preston
Yeah, I use the Apollo Solo. We also have a twin that we can bring with us. So if it's like client matching jobs, like we have a twin at home. So like, I'll bring the twin, but the solo, so it plugs right in so easily and doesn't need other power. So like with the Solo or with just this microphone and the Solo alone, just plugging into the computer is, with a good charge, I could get a whole session done without plugging anything into a anywhere.
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Rob
So.
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Jay Preston
Which is kind of amazing and have done before. A great XLR mic is important. A lot of people really skimp on that, even this day and age. Still, they're just getting the cheap XLR mic and then wondering why there's like a electronic hum. Like I've done everything and there's like electronic hum and I'm like, great. Let me tell me your setup. And it'll be like an amazing microphone, an amazing preamp, and like some real. Some like Amazon xlr. So we use the Megami XLR as a, you know, and have a backup version of that and pop filter. And then there's these little clamps, like these little C clamp things that I just buy a bunch of them because you never know when you're going to need to like set the. I actually forgot the pop filter the last time me and Meg went away. Not the pop. The shock mount for the 416. And we really needed to use the 416. And so I had like all these extra little C clamp.
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Rob
So you're MacGyvering something in the room.
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Jay Preston
MacGyver. A 416 shock mount, basically. And it worked great.
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Rob
What are you using in your booth? Do you. Do you read off of iPad or do you put the computer in the booth with you when you're doing it?
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Jay Preston
Yeah, we have the MacBook Air with. So it doesn't make any sound. So we pretty much use that. Yeah. And so we have that. We also have like a stand to make it higher and lower. And we have a take with you table that breaks down into that duffel bag as well. So it's like just a heavy duty. Like it's quite a duffel bag. Yeah, no, it's. It's insane. Like, I'll. I'll send you a photo of it you can put in there.
- [28:43]
Rob
It's like watching how many people get out of a clown car. It's like. How much more stuff have you got in there, Jay?
- [28:47]
Jay Preston
Like.
- [28:47]
Rob
Yeah, well, we just. We got a table.
- [28:50]
Jay Preston
Yeah. And you definitely need those little clamps, like C clamps that go over thick, thick pipe.
- [28:57]
Rob
Yep.
- [28:57]
Jay Preston
So you get like a whole bunch of little clamps that go over pipe just to hang all of your. And they got to be heavy duty ones. So they can hang all these blankets and things.
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Rob
You mentioned that you've got family in Iowa, family in, in Massachusetts. And so you've actually left stuff there. So what have you. You got like a triplicate, then you've got the one that you travel with and then one in each one of those locations. Is that kind of how you. How you've worked it?
- [29:21]
Jay Preston
Yep. We just, we just bought everything three times. So we have it all for that we have with us. And then I, we bought it again for Iowa and we bought it again for Boston. We just leave it there. It's just way easier than remembering to bring everything with you every time you go to visit family. And like you're trying to like just visit family, but if you got a big gig coming up, it's like. And you can't, I mean especially Massachusetts doesn't have very many good studios nearby because everything isn't really nearby. Everything's like an hour, two hours away. So Boston has some amazing studios that I've been to, but it's like a, I don't want to trek an hour and a half into Boston for like a 20 minute session. So we'll just set it up. And the biggest problem with Massachusetts is the neighbors. So it's like everyone does their yard like every day. So like everyone's. I don't know why, but everyone's like, oh, I'm going to mow the lawn again. We just mowed it yesterday. So they're always. So that's the biggest problem. It's like the struggle is like, if you get a gig, is it going to be quiet in the morning? Am I going to have to run out and talk to a neighbor and make, you know, it's like. So those are, those are the, you know, issues. Meg's mom's house is like pretty good most. We've recorded a lot of things in that and it's always magical a little bit because it's like, it doesn't seem like it's going to be quiet every day up until today. And then it's always like, knock on wood. Like we get, we get through it and her mom's downstairs with like three different dogs, like trying to keep them quiet. Yeah. Things you gotta deal with.
- [30:49]
Rob
Yeah. I, one of the smartest things that I ever did was I had a, I got a tri booth and we, my wife's family lives about eight hours away and I left it at my mother in law's place because we, you know, we were at, at that point in time, you know, we'd be up there five or six weeks out of the year at different stages. And it was easier to just have it fits in a suitcase, just pack it up and then just leave it in her basement kind of thing. And it was, it was really nice. And, and that is one of those things if you, you know, if you've got certain places where you go to consistently parents, house in law's house, whatever it is nice to just come up with a setup. What I like about what you've got, though, is. And I mean, correct me if I'm wrong here, but it doesn't sound like it's crazy expensive.
- [31:29]
Jay Preston
No. And that's the thing. Like, the tribe booth is amazing. And some of those setups that they have out there are pretty great setups, like, vocal booth.
- [31:38]
Rob
And.
- [31:39]
Jay Preston
Yeah, but it's. I looked at them, and, you know, that was like. It was like, do I put a bunch of money and get one of these things? Or. I mean, I can buy three of them for half the price, you know, three of my setups. And the important part that you spend the money on is obviously your equipment. And then the audio mute blanket is, like, the most important pieces of it. And everything else can be, like, put together easy. And it's, like, so compact that I know how to put it together up and down. I can get up and down, like, 40 minutes by myself. So it's like you mentioned, you have these.
- [32:11]
Rob
These metal frames that you've got that go down the sides. Is there a back on your booth then? Or do you put it up against the wall and you've got the blankets in front of you, and then you've got the walls down the side?
- [32:20]
Jay Preston
So I have the two walls, and then I have, like, a T, another metal thing that folds down into nothing. But it's a little. It's like a T thing. So it's just the pole and the T part. And that's the front where I put the audio mute blanket. And then the back is open because it's a big, long. It's a big, long rectangle, and they're just by themselves. You can turn it into a triangle. So it's like, I can. I can close the back a little bit more that way if I need to, or I can leave it open. And I have these, like, amazing little comforters that I drape over the back. That is our door, our doorway. And you kind of, you know, you make it your own. We had this. We were in. We were in some national park, and the hotel had these, like, cute little black bears that you. That were. That they were in your hotel room, and you could either leave them or buy them. And so we had it, and we put it on top of the booth, and it became our booth bear. And it literally was like, well, we have to buy this now, because every session that we thought was going to be like hell was, like, worked perfectly. Like, the perfect hour. We're like, now the booth fair comes with us always, because we just feel like it's good luck. It's, like, always just sitting on.
- [33:21]
Rob
I thought superstition was only in sports and base, you know, baseball.
- [33:24]
Jay Preston
Until. Until you're like, yeah, it's in VO2.
- [33:28]
Rob
It's in voiceover, too.
- [33:29]
Jay Preston
Yeah. You're like, there's no way. There's, like, 700 motorcycles outside. There's no way the session's gonna work. And all they all went somewhere for, like, one hour, and they all came back after. I was like, it's gotta be the bear.
- [33:41]
Rob
It's gotta be the booth bear. Nice. So, I mean, you said what, the frames were like, 60 bucks or something like that? Buy some.
- [33:48]
Jay Preston
Yeah, frames are, like, 60.
- [33:49]
Rob
So literally, for a few hundred bucks, you got everything that you need. Yeah. And a little bit of peace of mind.
- [33:56]
Jay Preston
Yeah.
- [33:56]
Rob
Because so many times now, and I mean, I said it earlier, but walking into a hotel today is not the same as walking into a hotel five years ago. They don't always have all the same stuff, and sometimes you can't always get them to deliver it either. So it's nice to just have something that gives you that little bit of peace of mind that you can take with you.
- [34:16]
Jay Preston
Yeah.
- [34:17]
Rob
What is the coolest piece of kit that you've added lately? Maybe isn't an essential or a necessary, but you're like, oh, man. I discovered this, and it was awesome. I'm so glad that I have this now. Or so glad that I added this into the setup.
- [34:33]
Jay Preston
I had originally been going with this table that needed to be, like, screwed in all the time. Like a nut and a screw. And, like, the table is really annoying, and I, like, screw it. I went online and I found a table that is, like, so easy that it's, like, my new favorite thing. It's one of the things that you're just like, oh, yeah, the table's there. Takes two seconds. You know, it's like. It does, like, fold up and piece together, but it's like just. It's just the easiest piece together table with knobs instead of, like, little twisty things, and it just folds down and it's. And it's, like, sturdy. You know, there's something about the table in your. In your booth that makes it. It just, like, puts it together perfectly.
- [35:13]
Rob
So that's what you're putting your MacBook on.
- [35:16]
Jay Preston
Yeah. Yeah. You put it on the table, and then I have this, like, you know, things that hold the MacBook that can go up and down. Those are the, like.
- [35:24]
Rob
Oh, yeah, the stands. Yep.
- [35:26]
Jay Preston
Okay, yeah, Little stand. It's perfect. And then finding the roof, My Meg actually was the one who discovered, like, how the roof could work. We're trying to figure out, because the roof's always the hardest part. Otherwise you have, you know, you put stuff up there and it starts to sink in. And it's like, how do you. How do you get around that without, you know, going to buy pieces of wood all the time? You know, I think 20, 21, we were actually buying everywhere we went. We'd go and get some Home Depot stuff and have them cut little pieces for us for the roof. And we did that for so long until we realized this little foldable thing, which we brought with us anyway for like on camera self tapes and things like that, or video game self tapes was perfect for the roof. You just ploop and it comes up and it really just holds everything up there and doesn't soup. Soup in. Droop, drooping.
- [36:15]
Rob
It's like one of these IKEA hacks. You know, like, people walk into Ikea and they. They find all this furniture and they repurpose it into the most amazing ways that it was never originally intended for. And you're like, oh, my gosh, I can't believe they thought of that. It would have never occurred to me to use a green screen background as the roof on a booth. But, I mean, as soon as you said it, I was like, okay, wait a minute. That makes sense. Actually, I can see how that would. I can see how that would work.
- [36:37]
Jay Preston
And it kind of fold because it's a round circle, right? It's a bit or oval or whatever. So it's folds. It hangs off over the top of the booth, which actually works out better for you because then the blankets that are up there are actually creating the space in between. So, like, as the blankets drape down over the top of the roof, you have your wall that you've made with the blanket, but then there's a space and then there's more blankets. So, like, as your voice is coming out, it's hitting a space and it's hitting the blanket and it's getting just more. What's the word? Diffused. Better. Yeah. So all these little things just made the booth even better. And it's kind of that. That kind of works. Like, since our. Our booth is a converted closet booth and clothes do that, this little thing is doing that too. So it's like helping match it.
- [37:24]
Rob
So did you go through getting like, you know, somebody like George Whittem will do a stack for your booth to get you all set up for your microphones and stuff like that. Did you do anything like that or were you able to just make it match?
- [37:36]
Jay Preston
Yeah, I am.
- [37:37]
Rob
Using your own expertise and knowledge and you know, you've been doing it for a while now. As far as traveling on the road, you've probably figured out a few tips and tricks along the way.
- [37:47]
Jay Preston
Yeah. George made me a stack a long time ago. And then my mic and my setup changed and then I forgot to have him make a new stack. And then Jordan Reynolds, I went through his course and I made myself a stack. But then I upgraded something and I had to have to go back through his course to learn how to make a stack again. And I'm just like, I can't. I'm so not that audio guru kind of guy that I can't. I literally have to go take the whole class again. I just can't find the time. So what I, what I've done is I've just tried to create a way that the microphone and the equipment hooks me. I mean, doesn't. Whatever. When I book, it's. It's not because of a stack, it's just because of. And nothing's wrong with. The stacks were amazing when I could just press a button and things sounded better. But now I have like at home we have the John Hardy M1 into a lakeside Soyuz preamp into our Soyuz like microphone. So it's just like a very nice clean with nothing in between. And then when we go on the road, we have the 416 on the dpa4060 and it's a clean straight into the Apollo. And for whatever reason it's pretty, pretty close. Feel like a really high end stack of stuff or just a flat straight into like one of these microphones. It's close enough where audio engineers don't have to do too much to like get it to match.
- [39:04]
Rob
So where's the craziest place that you've had to set this up and try to pull off a session without anybody knowing?
- [39:09]
Jay Preston
We had pulled over. We were on some. We were on some highway and there was nothing. There was like. But we found this one spot that had like, I could. My phone had like three bars. So we pull over off of this highway and then we go behind this building and there's like no one back there. We're like, oh great, there's no one back. And it's. The building's kind of blocking the highway sound a bit.
- [39:35]
Rob
Yep.
- [39:36]
Jay Preston
And it's, it's like 95 degrees. So like, as soon as I turn the car off, it's going to be 100 in the booth.
- [39:44]
Rob
Yes.
- [39:44]
Jay Preston
And we took that blanket and put it over the car, make it even hotter. But also it's just like, just to drown out some of the noise. And we just put everything together and we're sitting in the car and we pulled off a session for like a half hour.
- [40:01]
Rob
It doesn't look suspicious at all to anybody who's driving by wondering what the heck is going on over there.
- [40:05]
Jay Preston
We just, we kept stuffing blankets near windows so, like, it wouldn't reflect off of the stuff. Like, that ended up sounding pretty good. And I was like, okay, but we were sweating by the end of it. It's like that little, like, rhino from Mace Venture. It's like, rhinos are hot.
- [40:19]
Rob
It would be. That would be so nasty. But I mean, I've recorded stuff in the car before. I mean, they're. They're built to be quiet, right? I mean, yeah. George Whittem's been on the podcast. We've talked about that before. That in a pinch, if you can put your car someplace quiet, you can record, you know, you might get away. Is more easily get away with an audition maybe than if you could kind of do an actual session. You might need a little bit of extra stuff. But yeah, I've pulled off the highway and shoved pillows in the. And behind me and, you know, sit in the back seat and 416 certainly helps with that. Right? A little bit more forgiving or I guess that in this case, that sure. Microphone would. Would certainly make a difference, being able to do that as well.
- [40:57]
Jay Preston
Yeah, we've. We've even had. We've had a set. Like the room you got, like the, the. It was one of those two twin bedrooms and like, nothing would move, so he couldn't fit the booth anywhere. We ended up fitting it in between the two beds so it literally looked like the old school pillow fork kind of way, you know, and just like the worst setup ever. But that worked too. You just got to be, you know, malleable with your setup.
- [41:23]
Rob
It doesn't have to be pretty. Right. It just has to work. It just.
- [41:26]
Jay Preston
Just has to work. Yeah. You get so excited after you build it and you take a photo and you're like, I'm not showing that to anyone. That's the worst looking room.
- [41:36]
Rob
The thing that I've always laughed about with this stuff is we so often we will spend so much money on our home studios. And I mean, I like right over here, over my shoulder Is my custom booth. I built it myself, but you know, custom built booth and tried to make it nice, tried to make it spacious. But you'll hear guys talking about, you know, double walled, detached from the foundation, you know, like on and on and on and on and spending 20, 30 thousand dollars on their booth. But when we're on the road, we all record in pillow forts and book jobs and. Makes you wonder why we spend so much money and work so hard sometimes on some of the. The booth setups that we have at home. If all of this other stuff actually works just as well.
- [42:22]
Jay Preston
Well, it's because you spend most of your life in it. You know what I mean? Like, I want it to look nice. Like I. My booth has a bunch of like stuff in there that makes us happy when we go in. You know, it's just like it, it looks like a nice place to be. Even when we're on the road for that long, we can't wait to get back to home just to have our, the booth there and the computers outside of it and oh, it's so nice. But yeah, you spend so much time, you want it to look nice. So like I would hate if I had to do all of my life inside of a. A made up thing. It would, it would end up, it would end up taking twice as long and cost more because I'd want it to look even better if I had to do it all. All year long.
- [42:57]
Rob
Yep. Yeah. For a week or two at a time. It, it works in a pinch. But it is nice to come back home to the, to the main studio again.
- [43:05]
Jay Preston
Yeah.
- [43:06]
Rob
Talk about on the. I'm just curious on the business side of this because you travel so much, are you booking out with your agents every time you go? Are you letting clients know that you're on the road or you just feel so confident with your setup now that you're like, it's just business as usual for me.
- [43:21]
Jay Preston
No, I explain. We do a big explanation of where we're going and when it'll be impossible to record and when it, you know. So like some travel, some road days are just like eight hour road. So there's no way to travel. So there's like some actual book out times. We try to make them fit around weekends or like stuff like that. But for the most part, especially after last year, all of our agents know that we can make it work. So like they're not as worried. All of our auditions still sound good even. Even if we're on the road, even if I'm on The highway, and Meg's recording while we're driving, so they still end up sounding good and bookable. So that's. And so we're pretty transparent. But the other great thing is, like, you know, I run the voice of a resource guide now, and that thing has become so much more handy, not just because I run it, but because, like, on the road, I can find studios nearby and, like, just making those, like, connections as you're traveling throughout the country and, like, you know, voice actor living out of l. A. But we're here now, and, like, whenever I. Whenever we can, like, throw gigs to studios around the country, we try to do that, and it really helps. Like, helps us because we're recording in a studio, and it also helps them because they get some more money and new contacts, but also, like, we can make, like, really good networking friendships out of that.
- [44:39]
Rob
And, like, we've gotten some turns into new clients down the road, potentially.
- [44:42]
Jay Preston
Yeah. And they have. Like, we've got clients from all over the country now because we're just friendly with the studio, and, like, we had brought them work, and now we're continually giving each other work, and. And it's cool because you got to see them in person and, like, see their studio. And so it's been. It's been really fun to do that as well. Like, everywhere we go, I'm, like, checking out, like, what's here. What's. Oh, this studio's here. So it works out pretty good.
- [45:06]
Rob
Tell us about the resource guide. Tell us a little bit more about it.
- [45:10]
Jay Preston
Yeah, it's. When I first got into voiceover, I was just taking classes all over the country. I mean, the country. I was all over California, and one of the places I was starting my learning was voicecaster. And I was done with the workshop, and I went down to say, hey, thanks so much for something. And I saw these. All these resource guides on the thing, and I was like, oh, how much are these? And she's like, oh, free. Take one. So, like, I grabbed it and, like, started to just, like, go through it and be like, oh, my God, all these recording studios were here, all these different. And I was, like, at that point, like, really trying to, like, learn as much as I could from as many people as I could. So I, like, all these different coaches that I found in there, but then I would reach out to these recording studios and see if they had any internal rosters or, like, agencies I didn't even know existed was, like, were in there. And I was like, oh, let's just see if Maybe because I didn't have an agent then. So it was like a place where I found agents, connections for recording studios, new coaches. And then when the opportunity came that they found the VO collective that I had built, they were like, well, we're trying to find someone else to run this thing, and your collective seems in line. And so me and Tim Friedlander were like, yeah, let's take this on and see if we can make it even better than it was before. And I feel like we have. And so now it's got even more resources that are always checked, like every six months. We have a team that looks up all of them, calls all of them, make sure they're still in business. So we can either take them out of the guide, put them in the guide, and. And for this whole travel thing, it's been so great because we've. We've added the rest of the country used to be just like New York and la, but now we're like, we're literally getting the rest of the country. And so everywhere I go, I'm like, finding new studios and adding them to the Vorg and then, then that now they exist and it's. We can make connections with them. So it's. It's really cool.
- [46:56]
Rob
That's fun. And you still running the collective?
- [47:00]
Jay Preston
Yes, but I have so little time to, like, even get the Vorg on its feet that I, like, I still have to finished, like, the equipment page. Like, Amazon screwed up how they do their affiliate stuff, so, like, all of my links that I used to have are good. So I'm like, slowly getting all of the cool equipment back on there and linked, but the Vorik's just taking up so much time and it's. It's fun to do so. And then there's so many, like, advertisers that it's all created with advertisers. So it's like people in the industry put their ads in there for people to find and a lot of them have, like, amazing discounts. If you just say something about, like, I found this in the Vorg, and they're like, oh, great. Well, you get 10% off or 15% off this. So that's cool to do too, is like, find how many little deals can we find out there and give them to. To all of the, you know, to everybody.
- [47:54]
Rob
So before we head off for Thanksgiving and then Christmas and then New Year's.
- [48:01]
Jay Preston
And, oh, the holidays.
- [48:03]
Rob
Oh, the holidays. I mean, I think you've already given us a ton of great information for things to think about. With setting up the booth and you know, send me a picture and we'll put that into the, we'll put that into the show notes or, you know, throw it up on the video for the, for the YouTube version or whatever. But any other pro tips, something that I didn't think about that I could have asked or should have asked, you're like, hey, by the way, here's a really great tip or here's a really great hack when you're recording from the road or setting yourself up to do this.
- [48:31]
Jay Preston
Oh, one good thing is to make sure you have closed back headsets when you're recording in your booth. The open back is great for editing and stuff like that. But this closed back is if, if you're ever doing music or like the people are trying to talk to you and you're in this booth and you've got the computer here and you got this here and it's like you just want to make sure no other sound is getting into your microphone. So bring a good pair of headsets with you on the road too. And don't just go with whatever's the cheapest. Again, what are you using? I got these Sennheiser HD 2080 Pros. Not too. It's like 100 bucks. But as long as it's closed back, comfortable that you can wear for a long time. Doesn't look good in video. But.
- [49:17]
Rob
That'S how it's supposed to look. I mean, have you ever seen a picture of a voice actor where they weren't wearing big fancy headphones like that? You're supposed to touch them, though. You're always supposed to be sitting there with your hand. Yes. Well, Jay, this has been great. Thank you so much. And, and I'm looking forward to seeing some pictures of. What version of the booth is this, by the way? Like, I mean, we did this in 2021. That was like version one or version two or something.
- [49:39]
Jay Preston
Version four.
- [49:40]
Rob
Version four, yeah.
- [49:41]
Jay Preston
This is probably version four. It's like we had PVC version. We had these Home Depot things that I, I think I was like, oh, so you get it, you figure out how much. Then you call ahead and get them to cut this soundboard and you can just go pick it up and then throw it away when you're done. Like, we don't do that anymore. So, yeah, this is version four and it's working great. We've bought three versions of it.
- [50:01]
Rob
Three versions of version four parked in various sort of places across the country. That is the one thing I do think, though, and we said it earlier, but you know, if you're, if you've got in laws or family that you travel to consistently, having something that you can just leave is so nice. And so having something that's affordable, that you can do that, that you can. Right. It's not like everybody can go out and buy three or four tri booths or vocal booths to go and you know, leave them in strategic locations or whatever. Something like this that you're just kind of rigging up. You know, you go to mom and dad's house, even if you just had the frame, chances are they've got the blankets and stuff like that there, right? So yeah.
- [50:34]
Jay Preston
Or you go to like, you know, one of those, what are they called, charity places, you know, and like go get some cheap. All of them have like $5 comforters from, you know, so you just go buy some of those and toss them later.
- [50:49]
Rob
Even in the Airbnbs and stuff like that. Right. A lot of them have got some blank. You know, there's blankets and stuff like there. So if you got your basic sound blankets that you need and then you just use whatever's in on location to kind of fill in the blanks, so to speak. Yeah.
- [51:00]
Jay Preston
And we're talking holidays, right. So like if you're going somewhere for the holidays and you go buy a nice comforter from, from Macy's or something that you can gift after you're done recording in it, you know.
- [51:10]
Rob
That's right.
- [51:11]
Jay Preston
Here's a nice comforter, mom. That's. I knew you needed a new one.
- [51:14]
Rob
Yeah, There you go. And by the way, keep this around in case. Yeah, keep this, keep this around in case we come back again next time.
- [51:21]
Jay Preston
Exactly. Here's some pillows. Oh yeah. Sometimes we'll take pillows and put them, you know how like little sound traps in the bottom of places. So sometimes we'll just take pillows and put them in corners and stuff like that and just sound traps everywhere.
- [51:35]
Rob
Nice. Well, this is good. We're all set now. I'm actually, you know, at the time that we're recording this, I'm getting ready to go to Mavo. So I'm thinking, I've been thinking about. Because I, I don't have my tributh with me, I was going to actually drive to my mother in law's and get it before I headed for Mavo and I was like, I just, I ran out of time to go get it so I'm gonna have to.
- [51:50]
Jay Preston
Yeah, I can, I'll send you. I'll go find what the things I Buy I'll send you the links to them and then you can just try.
- [51:56]
Rob
It out in the show notes and then everybody will have it. Voiceover Resource guide Is it online?
- [52:03]
Jay Preston
It is and it's all digital right now. Our latest edition, 79.5 is digital and it's free for everybody. So you can just go to the website, click the link or scan the code and you'll have it right there on your phone. You can go through all 90 something pages of it. So that's great. We're doing the digital one right now because issue number 80, we're going to make a huge, very big. And we're trying to put every. We're trying to put every single listing from the Vorg website into it. So it'll be like over a couple hundred pages maybe.
- [52:33]
Rob
Wow. Okay.
- [52:33]
Jay Preston
Or at least 200 and it'll be bound. And we're only making 2,000 of them because it's going to be very expensive. But then we'll also have a digital companion of it. So, so, but that. We're excited about that one because we're going to try to put in a lot more resources for the resource guide, like not just listings and things like that. We're going to put in some, like Nava's working on some stuff. GVAA is working on some stuff. And so it'll be a, a thing to have that actually has useful information in as more useful information for like the actor. Right. And yeah, so we'll see what, we'll see what happens. We're excited about that website for that.
- [53:08]
Rob
Thevorg.com thevorg.com okay, we'll make sure that we put that in the show notes as well.
- [53:13]
Jay Preston
Thanks so much, Jay.
- [53:15]
Rob
This has been great. Thank you.
- [53:16]
Jay Preston
Thanks for having me. It's a pleasure to be back again. Let's not make it. I don't want to see you again in five more years. Let's make it sooner.
- [53:23]
Rob
When we come out with version 5 or version. By the time we get to version 5 or version 6 of the booth or when you've got a.
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Jay Preston
It'll be like a thing where I'm just like, watch this. Boop. And it just puts.
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Rob
Yeah, you gotta. When you got a Tesla Optimus bot to go ahead and set it up for you so that it's all. Everything's ready to go.
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Jay Preston
Yeah, it actually just. It lifts from my house, goes to where I'm going to be and drops it off. Yeah.
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Rob
Amazon delivers it via drone.
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Jay Preston
Yep. You know, this, this stuff could happen.
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Rob
It's I know we. We laugh and you know, it sounds crazy, but we might only be a few years from there. We'll find out. That will make for a very interesting episode of the podcast.
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Jay Preston
Yeah. I mean, I did not expect this day and age I'd have a microphone like, that's 300 bucks. That does everything. This one does.
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Rob
Yeah, that's. That's pretty crazy, actually. I'd heard a little bit about that. Sure. But I did not realize that it was even that well, that well set up. So that's interesting.
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Jay Preston
It's pretty amazing. Great, thanks.
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Rob
Now I gotta go and buy one of those. We watch it for a Black Friday special on.
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Jay Preston
Seriously? Yeah, I think actually there's a sale with the come. There's a version with the stand, which is really nice. I like that because you can take it apart and fits in my backpack.
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Rob
I'm sure there will be some Black Friday Cyber Monday deals on some of that stuff too, so.
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Jay Preston
Oh, yeah, definitely.
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Rob
All right, man. Well, thank you so much. I certainly appreciate it.
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Jay Preston
Have fun with me. Thanks. You too.
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Rob
Recording in your yurts and whatnot.
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Jay Preston
Happy holidays.
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