He Still Made All His Stops! (Episode 71)

Summary

Everything Guns – Episode 71: "He Still Made All His Stops!"
Air Date: February 16, 2026
Hosts: David & Jody Smith
Special Guest: Misty (of Misty Made It)

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Episode Overview

In this lively, candid episode, David and Jody—joined by Jody’s wife and small business owner Misty—dive into recent gun news, review their latest guns and gear, break down two real-life self-defense scenarios, and analyze Pennsylvania’s gun laws. Banter, inside jokes, and practical advice pervade a show that's equal parts informative, unfiltered, and personal.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Gun News & Legislative Updates

[00:25 – 10:41]

• ATF’s Alleged Gun Registry

  • Jody references recent coverage about the ATF creating a “backdoor gun registry” by digitizing hundreds of millions of 4473 forms from out-of-business FFLs ([00:34 – 02:13]).
  • David: “They have a database of who has guns… which is illegal. …Unconstitutional.” ([01:36])
  • Congressional pushback led by Rep. Michael Cloud (TX) is highlighted.
  • Discussion of the Biden-era rule requiring indefinite FFL record retention.

• Janine Pirro’s Anti-Carry Stance

  • The hosts criticize comments (and attempted walk-back) from newly appointed D.C. Attorney General (formerly Fox’s Janine Pirro) enforcing strict D.C. gun laws, even for otherwise legal owners ([02:30 – 03:40]).
  • David jokes: “Moron in chief.” ([02:51])

• 3D Gun Files & Control Pew Lawsuits

  • California's legal actions against 3D gun file distributors like Control Pew and their subsequent countersuit discussed ([03:38 – 05:13]).
  • Jody references shifting court perspectives and ongoing legal drama.

• Suppressor Form 1 Rejections

  • Discussion of the ATF denying a Form 1 suppressor application for citing "God given right" as a reason ([05:13 – 07:04]).
  • Community outrage led to reversal and approved applications.
  • Debate about the justification required for NFA item paperwork: “Target shooting and all legal purposes is what a lot of people put on there.” ([06:02])

• Proposed Suppressor Tax in Virginia

  • News that a proposed $500 suppressor tax bill was shot down largely due to opposition from the medical community, but concern over the volume of active anti-gun bills ([07:08 – 08:09]).

• State Legislation Sweep

  • Snapshot of recent and proposed gun laws:
    • Connecticut & California moves to ban Glocks
    • California and national legal battles over 3D printed guns/files
    • Positive: New Hampshire House passes campus carry law (pending more votes)
    • Alabama Democrats introduce (unlikely to pass) red flag and mandatory storage bills ([09:27 – 10:03])

Notable Quotes

• David: “They have a list. We’ve always known they have a list.” ([02:13])
• Jody: “It never stops. They never stop trying to…” ([09:50])
• David: “If you’re not going to put them in jail [for unconstitutional laws], at least kick them out of office…” ([09:50])

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2. Guns & Gear Reviews

[10:49 – 21:29]

• Tier 1 Zyphus Elite Holster (for Canik MC9 Prime)

  • David reviews his new holster: “Extremely comfortable. Conceals very well… with the wedge it pushes the barrel out, makes the grip come in more, conceals much better.” ([12:31])
  • Discussion of the holster’s retention, wedge for comfort, color, and turnaround time (3 weeks).
  • Misty teases: “That’s why he doesn’t have one yet.” (re: Jody not having a shirt) ([11:07])
  • Banter about warranty validity, including an anecdote: “Mine broke… in a— and we’ll put quotes around this— accident.” ([14:13])

• Comparing Canik MC9LS, Springfield Echelon, and Canik SC

  • Experiences and quirks of each gun, particularly on recoil and ergonomics.
  • David: “They both shoot really flat… grip length on the LS is better than the Echelon… The Echelon has better slide cuts.” ([15:38])
  • “If I would, I would have bought that one or the Prime if the Echelon hadn’t come with everything.” ([16:19])

• Odin Works Zulu Stock

  • Jody and David compare AR builds, highlighting the Zulu stock’s dramatic reduction in felt recoil ([18:11 – 19:44]).
  • Misty: “You know, usually you get pushed back, right. And it was so smooth.” ([19:20])

• Misty’s Interest in a Rifle Build

  • Misty expresses wanting her own AR; color choices discussed with playful banter ([20:36 – 21:16]).

Memorable Moment

• Misty on AR recoil: “I loved it. ...It was so smooth.” ([19:20])

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3. Self-Defense Scenario Analysis

[21:38 – 35:33]

A. Active Self Protection Pharmacy Shooting (Paraguay)

[22:43 – 28:02]

• Scenario: Store owner and wife confronted by armed robber; owner fires at robber but accidentally shoots and kills his wife.
• Analysis:
  • Husband’s situational awareness and quick draw praised.
  • Criticism for one-handed, retreating, wild shooting that hit his wife and could have endangered others.
  • David: “He needs to… you can’t just go shooting wildly like he did.” ([27:44])
  • Discussion on importance of practicing scenarios with partners and knowing each other’s roles.
  • Jody: “You need to walk through these situations if you’re store owners or homeowners.” ([28:14])

B. Chicago Road Rage (Uber Driver Shot)

[29:10 – 35:34]

• Scenario: 22-year-old shoots an Uber driver in the thigh after being ‘cut off’ and brake-checking the Uber, who had teenage passengers; shooter claims self-defense.
• Analysis:
  • Skepticism over shooter’s claimed fear.
  • Emphasis on senselessness and danger of road rage and escalation with firearms.
  • Snark about the Uber driver finishing his route and going home before seeking help.
  • David: “He still made all his stops!” ([31:39])
  • Conversation devolves into humorous, irreverent anecdotes about flipping off other drivers and First Amendment rights.

Notable Quotes

• David (on pharmacy shooting): “He probably preferred just being robbed at this point.” ([28:02])
• Jody: “If you’re gonna carry and use your firearm, you can’t just go shooting wildly.” ([27:44])
• Misty (on road rage): “Those expressways are so congested… somebody’s going to get cut out.” ([34:19])

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4. Pennsylvania Gun Law Deep Dive

[36:01 – 43:41]

• Non-constitutional carry but “shall issue”—concealed carry licenses handled at the county sheriff level.
• No firearm purchase permit or comprehensive registry, but the state tracks all handgun buyers in a database.
• Open carry is legal for those 18+ except in Philadelphia (requires CCW).
• No training required for concealed carry; no mag limits.
• Ammo restrictions pertain only to criminal use.
• Reciprocity: Broad, but with restrictions for certain states; detailed list provided ([39:44 – 41:46]).
• David and Jody debate why some states have restrictions.
• Overall assessment: Pennsylvania is “as good as Alabama is. Maybe a little bit better, other than no constitutional carry.” ([43:20])

Quote

• David: “Only thing I didn’t really like about it was their [handgun] registry.” ([43:13])

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5. Listener Mail & International Spotlight

[45:10 – 48:55]

• Australian Listener “Dave” Responds
  • Dave comments on Australia’s recent gun control debates post-tragedy and political infighting, offering an inside perspective ([46:04 – 48:55]).
  • Aussie buyback programs and local loopholes explained with humor: “Watermelon Party: green on outside, commies on inside.” ([46:19] - Dave’s words, recited by Jody)

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6. Looking Forward & Show Closer

[48:55 – End]

• Hosts announce plans to attend the Gun Policy Conference in Dallas, Sept. 2026 ([48:55]).
• Jody encourages listeners to subscribe to the newsletter and follow on social.
• Spirited, self-aware banter about podcasting techniques, family dynamics, and technical issues, often with tongue-in-cheek criticism.

Ending Notables

• David: “Next episode, we need some better self-defense scenarios. …Do better.” ([49:30], [50:19])
• Misty: “I think he was excited I was going to be on it.” ([50:26])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• ATF Registry, Suppressor News, Legislation: [00:25 – 10:41]
• Guns & Gear Reviews: [10:49 – 21:29]
• Pharmacy Shooting (Use of Force Analysis): [21:38 – 28:02]
• Chicago Road Rage Shooting: [29:10 – 35:34]
• Pennsylvania Gun Law Deep Dive: [36:01 – 43:41]
• Listener Letter (Australia): [45:10 – 48:55]
• Upcoming Events, Show Close: [48:55 – End]

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• “He still made all his stops!” – David, about the shot Uber driver ([31:39])
• “Moron in chief.” – David, on Janine Pirro ([02:51])
• “It was so smooth.” – Misty, on the Odin Works Zulu stock ([19:20])
• “They have a list. We’ve always known they have a list.” – David, on ATF ([02:13])
• “You probably wouldn’t break it now like that.” – David, joking with Jody about holster durability after weight loss ([14:47])
• “The Watermelon Party: green on the outside, commies on the inside.” – Jody quoting Australian listener Dave ([46:19])

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Overall Tone & Style

The episode blends sharp political critiques, technical gun talk, and self-deprecating humor. Banter is frequent, irreverent, and deeply personal—the listener feels privy to a gathering of good friends who know their firearms, aren’t afraid to speak their minds, and want their audience to both learn something and laugh along the way.

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Transcript

[A]

You're stupid. Welcome to Everything Guns episode 71.

[B]

I'm your host, Jody. Got David on another mic and we got a special guest with us today from Misty made it. Misty. She's also my wife.

[A]

Hi. Shouldn't you lead with that? Your wife?

[B]

Oh, yeah. No matter what I said, you're gonna say something.

[A]

I'm just saying that's what you should have led with.

[B]

All right, whatever.

[A]

Almost like you forgot.

[B]

No, I didn't forget. All right, we're going to start off with some news today like we normally do. Find it. Hold on one second.

[A]

Oh, yeah, we'll wait.

[B]

Oh, this is something we were talking about the other day. The ATF gun registry. So this was out for Ammo Land. And a new report from Reason confirms that. What? Ammo Land has been warning American gun owners for years that the ATF has quietly built what amounts to a backdoor gun registry in violation of federal law. This is different than what we were talking about, but I mentioned it, where if you have a FFL or a gun owner go out of business, they take all the 4473s. Apparently they've made a big database out of that and creating.

[A]

Well, they made a database out of all the 4473s. There's no way they're getting rid of that information. No. So they may not know what gun you have, but they know you have a gun.

[B]

They haven't made a database out of all the 4473s. They made a database out of the ones they got. Made a database out of all the nicks checks that have been through. Yeah, it's different. The 4473s have all the gun ammo or the gun information on it. The serial number, the type of gun, the number of guns, all that stuff. The next check just does is just a nick check. It doesn't have that information.

[A]

They have a database of who has guns.

[B]

They have a database who has guns. And they have a database of these people or these 4473s that have been turned over. So, yeah, you've got.

[A]

Which is illegal.

[B]

Yeah, which is illegal.

[A]

Unconstitutional.

[B]

Michael Cloud, Republican out of Texas and 26 of his colleagues have demanded answers from the ATF about the scale and legality of this database. Well, there is no legality of the database. So it says that hundreds of millions, possibly over a billion, firearm transaction records have been digitized from former dealer files. Which is completely illegal. But they still do it.

[A]

Yep. They have a list. We've always Known they have a list.

[B]

So yeah, they were using a Biden era rule that requires FFLs to retain the transaction records indefinitely to do this, but they still shouldn't be able to digitize it.

[A]

So what else you got?

[B]

So, oh, this happened the day after our last episode. So I'm sure if anybody listens to other gun podcasts, they've heard about this. Janine Pirro, formerly from Fox, who is now, what is she? What is she now?

[A]

Some kind of judge in D.C. or something?

[B]

Judge, attorney general out of D.C. or I don't know, something like that. I don't remember what her title is,

[A]

but Moron in chief.

[B]

Yeah, but she come out, she come out and says, I don't care if you have a license in another district. I don't care if you're a law abiding gun owner somewhere else. You bring a gun into this district, count on going to jail and hope you get your gun back. This is our great DOJ who's pro second Amendment. She tried to walk it back the very next day. Of course you did it said. But she attempted to reframe her earlier comments, writing in a social media post that she is a proud supporter of the second Amendment. I think she also said she owned a hangover.

[A]

Oh, well, that's what everybody says. Yeah, it's like, hey, I, I actually own that.

[B]

Like the razor said, I got one black friend. No different than that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Attorney for the District of Columbia.

[B]

Attorney for the District of Columbia. Yeah. Yeah. But thank you. No, no different than any of the others. They, they're so dumb. But she first came out, when she first came out into there, she was Talking about the D.C. gun laws being unconstitutional and she would not enforce unconstitutional gun laws in Washington D.C. right. Well, yeah. Now somebody you can't carry a gun is unconstitutional. So we got Control Pew out of sue in California. I think this is, this might be related to larosia. I think this is related to La Rosa case where California is suing Matt LaRosa and Control Pew for providing files for their 3D printing. So now they've countersued California according to the complaint filed. And this was filed on February 11, which links to written guides, photographs and digital design files, including 3D models. So you got multiple states suing over these 3D printing files and trying to make it unconstitutional or trying to make it a crime if you have them. So they're getting, they're out of Florida and California is filed a civil enforcement action in San Francisco against them. It's gonna be interesting to see how that turns out. Maybe his next episode this week in Guns. He'll say something about it whenever they they provide one. I know the guys on this this was we like shooting said they were going to try to get him on their show so.

[A]

Oh, there you go. Yeah, yeah. Promote other podcasts when I just mentioned

[B]

it beyond there they take a lot of our ideas it seems like but I don't know. And then we've got some people trying to get a guy getting trying to get a suppressor through the form one he put on the reasoning. You have to put a reasoning why you're getting one of the NFA items he put on there. It was his God given right and they declined it.

[A]

So now well what kind of reason do you need then? What should you put down a reason.

[B]

I know when I put down for

[A]

my SBR I put up you like too far back. That's why it goes you so far back from the microphone we get the echoing from the room because you're so far back.

[B]

You done.

[A]

I'm just trying to help you. Our listeners are complaining A lot of

[B]

people put on Form 1 all legal purposes or they put on their competition shooting and all legal purposes. Target shooting and all legal purposes is what a lot of people put on there.

[A]

So hit man probably be a bad

[B]

idea but people put on there to legally defend themselves against first self defense or put on there to legal man legal homicide and they put that on there and it's been approved but put God given right and that wasn't approved. But so apparently the ATF has comes a little bit of common sense and so they started approving the previously denied avoided Form 1 applications. It sparked that outrage. So they'd gone back after they had such an outcry over that one guy who who posted it I guess sent it to GOA and GOA really put that out there that they were doing that. So now they're starting to approve those. So we'll see how that goes. But it's still crazy that you have to even do anything to get a suppressor.

[A]

It should be removed from there but

[B]

it's not going to be.

[A]

Yeah that what it was Virginia that was and it may come up later but they were trying to add a 500 tax to suppressors. Yeah, there's one of the. Is one of the bills that they were trying to get past that one actually didn't make it out of committee. No.

[B]

And we and boy everybody the gun side gun program people are just excited that they.

[A]

Yeah. They got like 20 other anti gun bills. And that one didn't come out. But that one actually the reason it didn't get out of committee was because of the medical community stepped in and said it was for good. For hand protection. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So we.

[B]

Yeah. Which it is. That's what it should be. It's what it should be used for. But I just get irritated that everybody's so excited. Then we won. We're looking at what we won. Well, there's like you said, 20 other bills going through Virginia. There's bills. There's a new bill coming into Connecticut trying to ban Glocks. There's California doing the same thing. There's more bills going in California.

[A]

There's all kinds of bills everywhere.

[B]

Yeah. Glock. Yeah. The problem with the people say it's easy to convert to an automatic firearm. So now they're just banning. Trying to ban it. It's just a roundabout way to ban all semi automatic handguns. You got the third, you know we're talking about 3D printed stuff. Third, the third circuit rules that 3D printed gun files are not protected speech. So they read that is not a protected first amendment right. Used to get those files which it had been ruled before that it was. And that's where the control Pew sues California and federal court over that. Some good news in which we talked about New Hampshire before being such a pro second amendment state. New Hampshire House approves legislation allowing carry on college campuses by prohibiting colleges and universities from banning guns. But it's just through the House now. It's got to go to the Finance committee which I don't know why the whole House approves it before the Finance committee approves it. And I don't know why it has to be approved through a finance committee. But then after that again then it goes to the, to the Senate following that. And you already brought up the Virginia stuff. So I was going to talk about that and then the last thing I had was, you know, we talked about all these states and these anti second amendment laws they're trying to pass and now we got you. You sent me a text. Alabama's doing the same thing.

[A]

Yeah. There, there's two Democrat representatives in Birmingham trying to, trying to pass. One's trying to pass a red flag law and another one's trying to pass and it's not going to get out of committee. Gun storage. Yeah, gun storage. So neither one will get out of committee. But it's, it's one of those, it never stops. They never stop trying to, you know,

[B]

like I talked about. Well there's no consequences for introducing unconstitutionals. Yeah, you know, okay, if you're not going to put them in jail over, at least kick them out of office over it when they knowingly do this and not let them.

[A]

Yeah, I'm with you there.

[B]

They have. They swore.

[A]

It sounds a lot better when you get in the mic.

[B]

They swore. Yeah, it does.

[A]

Yeah. Do you notice that? Notice how much better that sounds? Oh, yeah, yeah. A lot better now you're right in front of it. There you go. Whatever. Much better.

[B]

She's pissing me off.

[A]

Well, I mean, I'm trying to help. Trying to make the podcast better.

[B]

I appreciate it. All right, well, it doesn't help with the dogs running around.

[C]

I thought you said they would lay down those sleeves.

[B]

They normally do. We're not going to say why they're

[A]

not now, but it's all right. Why, why is that?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Oh, okay. All right, what you got next?

[B]

All right, well, that's all I had for news.

[A]

That's why I said next.

[B]

All right, let's move on to some. Let's move to some guns and gear. So this segment brought to you by Clear Creek Shooting. For all your firearm needs, check out Clear Creek Shooting at Clear Creek shooting33.com. If you want a T shirt, send us a message and my wife will make a T shirt. Even though David doesn't like them.

[C]

That's why he doesn't have one yet.

[B]

Yeah, these guys, huh?

[A]

I got one. I wear it. I'll wear it when I go to the range.

[C]

Oh, well, it's gonna make you a podcast shirt.

[B]

Yeah, I got some nice sweatshirts.

[A]

Yeah. Let's talk a little gun again. So if I finally got my. Finally got my holster in.

[B]

We want to talk about that first. So we're talking about shooting.

[A]

I'm talking about it. So apparently, yeah, apparently that's what we're talking about. First. My Tier one. I got a. A tier one. Oh, crap. Which. Which holster was this?

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

It looks nasty.

[A]

Zyphus Elite, something like that. So it doesn't.

[B]

It is nice like an oster.

[A]

It's one. It doesn't have the mag, the extra mag pouch with it. Cuz, you know, If I carry 30 something rounds of.

[B]

You're a terrorist.

[A]

I'm a terrorist. I carry more than 17 rounds, but

[B]

according to the DOJ.

[A]

But it's extremely comfortable. It conceals very well. So it's, you know, this is the one that was made for the Prime. The Canik MC9 Prime. And, and the MC9 I don't have. I have the MC9 LS, which is the same form factor. So it's good, good fit to it. I hadn't tightened up a little bit to, to make it like I wanted it.

[B]

So when you bought that, you had to buy it for the prime. They didn't have one specifically for the ls.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

Okay, I got you.

[A]

Yeah, so it did take about three weeks for me to get this, this thing in.

[B]

Just keep hitting the table. This.

[A]

Yeah, well, that's why everybody knows I'm messing with it. So I'm trying not to point it at you.

[B]

Appreciate it.

[C]

So I appreciate that.

[A]

It's very comfortable. Conceals really well. But one thing I did notice, you know, the MC9LS has a full size grip, so it did print a little bit. So I took one of their. Their wedges and I got the. The standard medium wedge and I put on it. And it. It. The way I got it oriented, it pushes. It pushes the, the barrel out, which makes the grip come in a little bit more in and conceals much better and add a little comfort because it's a foam wedge. But. But that makes that. This little foam wedge makes it conceal very good.

[B]

So have you tried that gun in one of those Romero hosers that we

[A]

have to see out? Yeah.

[B]

Pretty bad in that.

[A]

Well, it's with the, with the red dot. I don't have one. It really fits my. Oh, I get you with the red dot.

[B]

It. I figured with the longer, longer grip, it would print pretty bad with those.

[A]

Yeah, it. I'm gonna say with the, with the wedge on it. It does really well with this holster. So. I like the holster so far. Pretty comfortable. Yeah.

[B]

Nice looking ocean. They got the T1 on it. I think it looks good.

[A]

Oh, they did. They do a good job with it. This is. You got a little bit of movement here, so you can. It moves with a little bit on the back. They're pointed right at you. Hey, it's in the holster. Calm down. I didn't see that. I can see. Yeah, there's a screw. Retention screw there. You can get a little more retention on the back. There's a retention screw on the front with the. We got the clips. There's a couple other retention screws.

[B]

And you said there's a lifetime warranty on those.

[A]

Yeah, but. Yeah, you got to go look at that. I mean, like, like yours that got broke in a. And we'll put quotes around this accident. Yeah.

[B]

When we, when you flip me and I'm side besides.

[A]

Ah well.

[B]

And my gun went flying out.

[A]

Yeah, it went flying. Yeah.

[C]

Could have died.

[B]

Yeah, that one.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I did. Look, it doesn't cover like accidents or you're breaking them. Just normal wear I guess. I guess if yours would actually got broke when he's fat then we could have. We could have used that. But, but, but we think, we, we don't think it was your fatness that did it. We think it was, it was the accident. But it went flying. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean you lost weight now. You're looking good.

[B]

Like 32 pounds.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. So I mean you probably wouldn't break it now like that.

[B]

But.

[A]

But something like that.

[B]

We also shot that gun this past weekend. Well, the weekend before.

[A]

Yeah, the MC9L.

[B]

Comparing it with my Echelon mainly and the Cannon SC.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the Canon SC TP9SC. Yeah, the TB9. Those guns shoot so well.

[A]

Yeah, I keep shooting that. If, if mine didn't have so many problems with it, you know, if it didn't have the.

[B]

You kept breaking the chamber indicator.

[A]

Yeah, I didn't now just blows dirt and powder back in my face every time I shoot it. I'd still be carrying that one probably. Yeah, but they, they shoot well the comparing it to the Echelon. Yours is a little bit heavier gun, a little bit thicker. But I didn't notice on neither one of them if they both felt very similar as far as far as felt recall.

[B]

So yeah, didn't notice anything in the recoil.

[A]

They both shoot really flat.

[B]

The grip length on the. The LS is better than the echelon, a little bit longer than echelon so you can get a good grip on it even without an extended mag. The Echelon has better.

[A]

Yeah, definitely better slide cuts. The. Yeah. This one, this one. I wish I had a little bit more grip, but I hadn't really. It hadn't bothered me yet. But I may end up some point putting grip tape on it. We'll see.

[B]

Yeah, I don't know if I would.

[A]

It'd have to get tan grip tape to be able to do it.

[B]

Yeah, that FDE color looks good.

[A]

So. But now as far as comparing the guns, they shoot very similar. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Close to the same size gun anyway. But they, they both shot well.

[B]

If I would, I would have bought that one or the prime. If the Echelon hadn't come with everything that it came with. It came with like five, five mags, a couple bags. It came with a lot of extra gear and I'm Glad I got it.

[A]

It's a good gun, so don't let. I like. I'm liking the holster. I wish it. I wish I could have gotten it a little bit quicker. Seems like three weeks was a little long for a codex holster. Yeah, but they do a good job. So it does look good.

[B]

It's probably better than what I could have made.

[A]

Oh yeah, yeah, we know probably. I mean, I mean it's better than what you can make. Yeah.

[B]

I like the way they closed the end of it up.

[A]

Yeah, I'm a little surprised they did that. Yeah, I was surprised.

[B]

The only problem with that is if you wanted to put on a. A threaded barrel, you're not going to be doing well.

[A]

I mean I. I would have. Yeah. They have a version with it for a threaded barrel.

[B]

Yeah, I'm surprised they have a version

[A]

for, you know, suppressor. They have. They have add ons, so I would assume it wouldn't have been closed in if I'd have told them it was. Yeah, had that. Yeah. All right.

[B]

That's nice looking holster.

[A]

Yeah, I got it in the red too. They're kind of deep red.

[B]

Yeah, because I mean that's good because when it's down in your pants, nobody can see it. You want, you want to make sure you got a pretty oster.

[A]

Looks nice.

[B]

No way. If you'll see it.

[A]

I see it.

[C]

Hold it up, David.

[B]

You probably could have got the black one in like a week.

[A]

No, I mean it's look different in the colors. I doubt it. They got. They got that material and I like it. It's a nice holster.

[B]

Yeah, they probably don't carry as much of that color as they do the black though.

[A]

They offer a bunch of colors.

[B]

Man. Come on. Saying you get it.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know.

[C]

Do they have a true red?

[A]

Oh yeah, I'm sure they.

[B]

Yeah, they.

[A]

They got a bunch of tons of different colors.

[B]

That's done. Don't matter. Nobody sees it.

[A]

My last, My. My holster, I have the tier 1 hoster I have for the TP9SC is gray on the front, red on the back. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, that was handy.

[A]

Yeah, I like it. It looks nice.

[B]

Nobody can see it.

[A]

I can see it.

[B]

All right, whatever. Let's move on. Also, we also shot that shot my rifle a little bit more with the Zulu stock on it from Odin Works.

[A]

Yeah, we. I brought my AR pistol out, we did a little comparison with it and just to see, just to see how well that stock did as far as recoil, felt recoil, any kind of movement, and it's a flat shooting rifle. Of course, my, my AR pistol shoots really flat as well.

[B]

But you, you don't feel that, you don't feel that recoil at all?

[A]

No, no, the, the difference in the felt recoil surprised me. I mean I can. You can. My AR pistol, five six. I mean it's what, a 10 inch barrel on it and I mean it's not a lot of recoil, but you can, you can feel it pushing you back a little bit. But your rifle, man, it's, it's like nothing. You don't even feel it move at all. It was.

[B]

I took my 22 out the next weekend. Me and Misty went out and shot it and it was just not as. Not. It almost is loud of recoil as that.22.

[A]

You shot that, didn't you, Misty?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What'd you think of it?

[C]

Oh, I loved it.

[A]

Shot really good, didn't it?

[C]

It did. And you know, usually you get pushed back, right. And it was so smooth.

[B]

Yeah. She shot the. I had my little 16. I have a 16 inch barrel rifle out there as well with the day night scope on.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And shot it. And you could tell the difference when she was shooting them. Yeah.

[A]

So that, that stock being offset like it is really surprised me how well it. It took away. Recall, felt recall.

[C]

I like that third gun. Was it 22?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a good shooting. Yeah, she shot the 22.

[A]

Yeah, the 22 shooting.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, but.

[A]

Yeah, that's nice. That's a nice.

[B]

She did good with the pistol. But I'm gonna sit, I'm gonna have get my trust set up so she can have access to that sbr.

[A]

Well, we ever get short barreled rifles out of the NFA then, man, I'll probably buy me one of those. Yeah, probably not that. One of those for a. Yeah, 16 inch.

[B]

You can put it on. Yeah, go on any of them. It's a good stock. Has been out for a while. It came out five or six years ago.

[A]

How much was it?

[B]

Like 159 bucks. That for a stock's not too bad.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. All right. What else you got? That's it on gear, isn't it?

[B]

That's all I got on gear. You get anything else on that gun? Yeah, she shot her, so we took her. You want what?

[C]

I want one.

[A]

Oh, I'll build you one.

[B]

Okay, well, Barbie build you an AR pistol because you.

[A]

Yeah, it can't be an AR pistol with that stock.

[B]

Oh, that's true.

[A]

You're right. Yeah.

[B]

I could build a 16 inch AR.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Yeah, I'll build you a 16 inch R AR. I need to build another.

[A]

Well, you got plenty. Just put that on. Just buy the stuff. I don't have plenty. Whatever. I built another one. All right, go ahead, leave.

[B]

All right, so I'll get to work on that. They come different colors, too. We can make yours a different color. People actually see that?

[A]

What?

[C]

Probably want black or red.

[B]

Yeah, they got red. I'll show you. Pretty nice.

[A]

Yeah. Keep talking away from the mic. That's good.

[B]

I'm right here on the stupid mic.

[A]

You're looking away when you're saying something.

[B]

All right, let's see.

[A]

Just like right now, can you guys

[C]

get, like, headset mics?

[B]

No, we don't want those.

[C]

No. Well, then he quit fussing at you.

[B]

Oh, he's. I worry about him fussing.

[A]

If he'd stay in the mic, I'd quit fussing at him. Right here in the mic.

[B]

All right, let's move on to some use of four stuff. So this first one we had to start.

[A]

Go ahead, use force.

[B]

This first one is from the active self protection YouTube. So you can go and watch this one. I'm trying to. Trying to get these more often so people can kind of go and see what we're watching. See what. So they can.

[A]

Yeah. What was this one at?

[B]

This was active self protection.

[A]

No, no, the. The country.

[B]

Oh, I don't know.

[A]

It said it on there.

[B]

I don't think it was U S.

[A]

No, it was not a lot of their stuff. I don't think it was Brazil, but it was somewhere South America.

[B]

But for this one, it really doesn't matter. This is the.

[A]

Oh, it matters.

[B]

It doesn't matter. All right, so we're going to talk about this.

[C]

Don't silence your phones before. Sorry.

[B]

Yeah, mine is silenced.

[A]

No, mine's silenced. That was yours.

[B]

That was my iPad. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Apparently Jody does not.

[B]

I didn't silence my iPad.

[C]

I was just curious.

[A]

All right, get to talking the video.

[B]

Oh, all right. So this is. This is a store owner and his wife. They had a little pharmacy and not, like I said, wasn't sure where it was at, but it's outside the country. But it didn't. Didn't really matter. This went about. So you get. The lady was standing close to the door. The counter was kind of an L shape where they kind of going from the back of this pharmacy around, turning and going toward the door. So she was standing there close to the counter, saw these two guys right up on a motorcycle, and you could tell she thought something Was up just from way she was acting.

[A]

Paraguay. Paraguay.

[B]

And then she sees the one guy start to come in. So she moves back over behind the counter, but still close to the door. Well, as he comes in, he immediately pulls a gun.

[A]

Yeah. As he's walking through the door, she kind of takes a step toward the door too, which I thought was odd.

[B]

Yeah. But once he comes through, he pulls his gun with a store owner. The man standing at the back of the store does a pretty good draw for two.

[A]

Second draw.

[B]

Second draw and is. But he does it. One hand, starts shooting one handed. Right hand pulls draw, shoots one handed.

[A]

They both start shooting. They're both shooting at this point.

[B]

He's trying, but the robber was having to rack his. He didn't have it chambered.

[A]

Yeah. Which.

[B]

So he got a shot off before this guy.

[A]

Oh, I think we already. Well, we're not going to talk about what he should do.

[B]

Right.

[A]

He should have had it chambered, but he should have had it chambered. I tell you that. I don't know. You can come rob somebody, have your gun chamber.

[B]

Okay,

[A]

go ahead. Yeah. But then the store owner starts firing

[B]

the first shot looks like he catches the guy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But as you said, he starts moving.

[A]

They're both shooting and he starts moving and shooting. Not he's kind of shooting behind his back. Kind of.

[B]

So his second or third shot strikes his wife.

[A]

Yeah. Killed his wife. I mean, she goes down quick.

[B]

Yeah. It must have hit her in the head because she went down pretty fast.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He didn't know it at first until he fired a couple more shots. The robber goes out the door, stumbles and he dies outside the store. And then that's when he sees his wife laying over there in the corner.

[A]

Yeah. He little upset over it, you think?

[C]

Yeah, think so.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, he's upset.

[B]

He was, he was a bit, bit distraught over the whole ordeal.

[A]

I think he figured out pretty quick it was him that did it, not the robber. I think.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

But let's go through what he should have done.

[B]

Well, let's talk about the use of force.

[A]

Legitimate use of force. I mean, he came in, pulled a gun. He was trying to rob him. He, he, he immediately goes to his weapon. It was, he was very aware of his surroundings, which is good. He was prepared where he was. His gun was on him. It was not on a shelf and he didn't have to go retrieve it somewhere. It was on him. He, he drew quickly. He was effective with it to begin with when it was effective use of it. Effective use of it, but accuracy was way off.

[B]

And his shooting one handed, moving back to your left.

[A]

Well, not only moving back your left, moving and basically running away, shooting with the. With the gun. Not even have an idea where the bullets were going to hit his wife.

[B]

He could have hit somebody else outside.

[A]

Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was. It was. He needs to shake on that video. Oh, it does sound better. So much better when you get in on the microphone. I think I get so close to this stupid. Well, get up on it.

[C]

It would have been better if she had been armed as well.

[B]

Yeah, I don't know if she was. I don't think she was. But by the time everything was going on, she then got shot. So I don't know if she would. Had time to draw her weapon.

[A]

Yeah, the best thing for her would have done was to move over behind her husband, move further. Move further away instead of being right there at the door.

[B]

Yeah. Especially when.

[A]

Because it appeared that. See, she was a little nervous about the guy because he kind of lingered around outside for a minute and then he comes in because she had moved around the counter. But then she took a step toward the door almost like she wanted. She was going to try to help him when he came in, but then she. She's almost. She was in the line of fire at that point.

[B]

Yeah, I think she might have froze.

[A]

Yeah. I don't guess she thought her husband would be running away shooting either. So. Yeah.

[B]

Even if he, you know, what rear did you think?

[C]

Well, if me and Jody were ever in a situation.

[A]

Yeah, don't stand by the door, mister. He's gonna shoot you.

[C]

I know he's armed and if I wouldn't, I would just get out of the way completely.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, that's what she should have done.

[B]

But.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. She probably looks kind of froze a little bit. Didn't know what to do. If he just stayed on his mark or just moved a little bit to the right, still facing him, or moved to the left facing him, but not running off shooting behind your back. He'd have been better off. But he didn't want to get shot at that point. He should have quit shooting. That's what he should have done. He should have stopped shooting. And then he didn't know if he.

[B]

I don't think he saw the. I don't think he saw the first shot. Well, I think he was shooting wildly at the very beginning.

[A]

You can't do that if you're gonna. If you're gonna carry and if you're Gonna use your firearm. You can't, you can't just go shooting wildly like he did. Yeah.

[B]

So we look at him. He used to force. Good job on his part from stopping the robbery. Bad job on his part for not being effective overall.

[A]

Yeah, he probably preferred just being robbed at this point.

[B]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. You know, he'd have been better off letting the guy steal the money. Who knows what he would. The robber would have done, but his wife would. Had a better chance of being alive. You got to be, you got to be better prepared.

[A]

Yeah. Not a good situation. No, no.

[B]

You need to walk through these situations if you're store owners or homeowners, whatever. On what, what your. What each of you going to do better.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I keep telling you this.

[B]

I keep moving back.

[A]

So. Yeah, yeah, definitely go through the scenarios. If you're, if you're a store owner, hey, if you're, if you're concerned about somebody, let's move to this area, move to that area. We'll go do something. Here's what we're going to do.

[C]

Kind of fire drill, but for.

[A]

Right? Yeah, same way. Same thing you should have in your house if somebody breaks in.

[B]

Well, like I told, if somebody's holding her hostage and I start to fire, as soon as I start to shoot, she needs to drop to the ground.

[A]

Yeah, because he's going low, right?

[B]

No, I'm not going low. Right, you jerk.

[A]

All right, all right.

[C]

Well, hopefully that'll never happen, so. But we're prepared.

[B]

All right, let's move on to the next one. This one, let's see. I got this one written up.

[A]

That's you iPad again. Dinging. You still ain't silenced.

[B]

You mean. Take some time and silences.

[A]

Now why don't you go to the next one, man.

[B]

So this is out of Chicago. So this is a

[A]

22 year old

[B]

Chicago man has been detained.

[A]

That's what we're gonna need to hear on every episode. Misky, hold the microphone in front of him.

[B]

22 year old Chicago man has been detained after prosecutors said he shot an Uber driver during a road rage incident. Of course, another road rage incident. This is. Oh, every episode we know, the Stevenson Expressway. Do you know where that's at?

[C]

You know where that's at?

[B]

Well, I was from that area. I don't think she was there at this time. But while the Uber driver had two teenage passengers in the back seat at the time. So Daniel, this is the guy that did the shooting. He was arrested on February 6, hours after the morning shooting on inbound Interstate 50, 55 near Damon Avenue. Do you know where that's at?

[C]

Do you need to know how to pronounce his last name?

[B]

No, no, we're not going to go that far. We're not doing that. We tend to avoid Zaragoza.

[A]

After. After one episode we had an incident. It was not good. It was terrible.

[B]

We figured out how to pronounce it after this.

[A]

After the episode. It was so wrong.

[B]

Oh my gosh.

[A]

It was so, so bad.

[B]

All right, so basically we had Jaragoza. Okay, here's the guy that did the shooting. Daniel. He got cut off by the Uber driver who was merging onto expressway. And then. So he gets. He gets in and gets in front of the guy, breaks, checks the Uber driver.

[A]

I don't know why a lot of people break check. I don't know.

[B]

The victim remained behind Daniel's dark gray Toyota. And then when he exited at the. At Damon Avenue, as he. As he did, the victim allegedly saw Daniel rear passenger's window roll down, heard a loud bang, and he was shot in the right thigh. So as he was exiting, the guy had his back window down, reached back and shot at the guy.

[A]

What's a heck of a shot?

[B]

It's a good shot. Yeah, give him credit on that. Out the back window.

[A]

Yeah. And then.

[B]

And then he exited.

[A]

It got him in the thigh.

[B]

Got him in the thigh.

[A]

Goodness, that's bad.

[B]

Hey, this Uber driver dropped off his two drive, two guys and then drove home.

[A]

I hope he got a good review. Yeah, too. So he a five star right there.

[B]

He dropped off both passengers and drove himself home where his wife called 911. Well, your wife would have been mad.

[A]

Wow. Yeah, I should have gone to the hospital.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Why didn't he just go to the hospital?

[B]

He was treated at the hospital and released him. Might have been too bad he just got shot in the thigh.

[C]

He might have been tripping out too.

[B]

Yeah. My gosh, how bad could it be? Getting shot in the leg?

[A]

Nah, let it hit you from oral artery.

[B]

Yeah. Then.

[A]

Then you. You'll bleed out so quick.

[B]

Which artery was from oral?

[A]

Femoral.

[C]

The major artery.

[A]

The biggin.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

The what?

[A]

The biggin.

[C]

The biggin. How do you spell that?

[A]

B I, G, I N. Biggin.

[B]

Yeah, that's right. So he did you. They use a license plate reader technology to identify the suspect's vehicle. Ended it into a wanted database and found this guy. My gosh, you can find people no matter what these days. I'm glad they found him.

[A]

Yeah, well, they can't believe around him.

[B]

So.

[A]

So Daniel shot.

[B]

Daniel shot the Uber driver.

[A]

Uber driver On Damon Avenue.

[B]

So Daniel said that he. He let a gate police permission to retrieve the handgun, but he said he was in fear of his. Of. Of his life. Yeah, he said they thought they were. Where's the rest of it?

[A]

Oh, good job. He was scared. He lied, basically. He did what you would do. Make up a story to try to get out of it.

[C]

Toby wouldn't do that.

[A]

Yeah, why wouldn't he?

[B]

Oh yeah, I do that heartbeat.

[A]

Oh, yeah. And then he'd be leaving town.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

Clear up his phone, leave town. He's gone. All right, I guess that's the end of that story. So I don't have the rest of the story. All right, here it is. Oh, my gosh.

[B]

He told. Daniel, told the investigators he had been driving his girlfriend to work when he fired one round at the rear window during the road rage confrontation. He claimed he felt threatened because the other. Other driver rolled down his window while the cars were parallel there. His arrest report said.

[A]

So which one? Break. Chicken.

[B]

So the Daniel. The shooter breaks.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

The Uber driver.

[A]

Oh my God. The only thing the Uber driver did was accidentally cut him off.

[B]

Yeah, accidentally cut him off. Guy got in front of me, break,

[A]

checked him and then shot him.

[B]

Stayed behind him until he got to the exit. Took the exit and guy shot. He's.

[A]

Yeah, he's in.

[B]

The shooter said the guy rode down his window, so he thought he.

[A]

Well, you can row you into that without getting shot. Yeah, apparently not in Chicago.

[B]

Yeah. So when we look at it from a use of force, first off, these road rage instances, as we continue to say are stupid.

[A]

Yeah. We're going to have to start finding other things to talk about.

[C]

Well, and those expressways are so congested.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So I mean, somebody's going to get cut out.

[A]

How is she? They're not.

[B]

They can't just give him the double bird like I got.

[A]

I got that double bird. Well, yeah, and I mean, you pulled out that guy. You pulled out front hand with a trailer.

[B]

I got the double bird.

[C]

I flipped off a dude one time

[A]

at the sunroof in Jasper and it

[C]

happened to be a off duty cop.

[B]

Yeah. Probably should just let that stuff go.

[A]

Did you get pulled over?

[C]

My uncle was driving, but yeah, he pulled us over.

[A]

Yeah, they're legal.

[B]

It's illegal.

[C]

We didn't get arrested, but.

[A]

Well, I mean, did you get a ticket?

[C]

No.

[A]

That's first amendment rights.

[B]

Oh, my.

[C]

Freedom of speech by flipping them off.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

It's absolutely constitutional.

[A]

There's court cases on that. Supreme Court cases on that. They can't. They're.

[B]

But you say it all the time.

[A]

They do it, but they're. It's. It's against The Supreme Court cut us

[C]

off at that point.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. It's retaliatory. He can't. He can't pull you over as a retaliatory response.

[B]

All right, let's move on. That's all the use of force I had just did, so Pretty good. Too bad use of forces.

[A]

Yeah. Not good.

[B]

Either one of them. One worse than the other. Well, I say that the. The use of force from the guy with the pharmacy, he was. It was actually a good use.

[A]

He just didn't execute it.

[B]

Right. Executed. Right. The other guy was.

[A]

He executed his wife. Yeah. She could have made by mistake. I wonder if she's. No, that's terrible, man. Are you making jokes about that, man? It's terrible.

[C]

That morbid sense of humor has.

[A]

Thoughtful.

[B]

All right, so let's move on to Pennsylvania gun laws. Hopefully you got something written down for that before.

[A]

Before we.

[B]

Before you jump into it. Before you jump into it, this. So you cannot bypass a nick's check by having a Pennsylvania gun permit. And they are ranked 37th in the country in gun ownership at 40.7% of households having least one gun in their house.

[A]

All right, so Pennsylvania is not a constitutional carry state, but is a shall issue. You must be 21 years old to come to get a concealed carry license or concealed carry on all states.

[B]

Now, at least all states shall issue, or there's some major.

[A]

I still like saying that. So concealed weapons license is issued at the county level by the sheriff's office. There is no permit required to purchase a firearm. And although you're like this, because this kind of goes into what we said earlier. Although there is no comprehensive firearms registration, the state police maintain a database of all handgun buyers. So that's state level. In Pennsylvania, private party transfers of handguns must be conducted through a licensed dealer or at a county sheriff's office. And a background check is required. Open carry is legal for anyone 18 years or older. This is Pennsylvania. Because we forgot by now that you forgot. Well, you're not paying attention. I'm listening. You must have a concealed carry license or license from a recognized state to carry a loaded firearm in your vehicle.

[B]

Which states are recognized by Pennsylvania?

[A]

I'll get to that in a minute. I got it listed. Look at you. So you must have a. Now you must have a c. Concealed carry license to open carry in the city of Philadelphia. So you can open. Open carry is legal for any 118 year older without a license. Except for Philadelphia. There is no training requirement to obtain a concealed carry license in Pennsylvania. There are no mag limits. There are ammo restrictions. But I want to read this to you. So ammo restrictions include ktw, Teflon coated bullets or other armor piercing ammunition with the intent to use the ammunition in a crime. So you can still have it. But if you, if you use it in a crime.

[B]

You said intent. How do they know what your intent is?

[A]

Well, when you go commit a crime, then they'll just add another charge to you.

[B]

Okay? That's what you got that MO and you commit a crime. Whether or not you use that gun in that crime, you're gonna get. Yeah, you're gonna get busted.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Gotcha.

[A]

Yeah. Or if you use it within that ground, you definitely have intent then. So that's. I just told you so. You can carry at state or national parks or roadside rest areas as long as you have a concealed carry license or you're a licensee from a state that Pennsylvania has reciprocity with. I'll tell you those in a minute. There is no duty to inform an officer that you're carrying unless they ask you. There are no red flag laws in Pennsylvania. So Pennsylvania overall is pretty good state, by the way. So weapon signs are not recognized or enforced. The concealed carry license is linked to your driver's license. So here, here's the reciprocity. So this is. I'll give you a list of the states that have no restrictions. And then there'll be some states that have some restrictions. We're not going to go into those restrictions because they're all different. So you acting like you falling asleep. I go in and write this stuff down.

[B]

I'm good, man.

[A]

And then now you don't even like it.

[B]

I like it.

[A]

We spent 20 seconds on Oregon last time. Now we spend a little bit more time on Pennsylvania. They just go, all right, reciprocity. Here's the stakes. Alabama, Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Montana, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, South Dakota, Vermont, Virginia, Wisconsin, those are states without any restrictions. If you have a conservatory license from one of those states, Pennsylvania recognizes that's surprising. So now with restrictions, and you'd have to go look at what your restrictions are. Like Florida, the restriction is you have to be a resident of Pennsylvania to use their license in Florida. So it's this still not really. I mean, if you're gonna have a Pennsylvania license, didn't have any restrictions.

[B]

Did you say Tennessee?

[A]

No. Okay, so did you hear me say Tennessee? That's why I asked. Hold on, I'm about to get to the next one. Well, just relax a minute.

[B]

I've got a reason why I'm asking that question. Go ahead.

[A]

These are. Here's our. With restrictions with Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah, West Virginia and Wyoming.

[B]

Well, you know why I'm asking why?

[A]

No, I don't.

[B]

Okay, well, I'll tell you why.

[A]

Well, tell me. All right.

[B]

So it's odd that Pennsylvania puts no restrictions on Alabama and puts restrictions on. On Tennessee. With. Tennessee has requirements to take training to get their permit, but Pennsylvania.

[A]

Pennsylvania doesn't have a requirement. Training requirement. I get that. Then why would they put. Why would they put.

[B]

Why put a restriction on Tennessee?

[A]

Well, you have to go look at what the restriction is. Like I said Florida was. If you had to be. If you have a Pennsylvania license, you have to be a resident for that license to. To apply to Florida. So it's just depending on. So all the states are different on the restrictions. So you had to go look up at particular state.

[B]

So the reciprocities is very, very good.

[A]

Probably over 30. Over 30 states they had. They have reciprocity with. So that's good to know. So if you're going to Pennsylvania and you're in one of those states, whether you're. I lost my word. What's the word I used a minute ago?

[B]

I wouldn't. Listening.

[A]

Oh, my. I gotta start doing brain exercises. It's killing me. Restrictions. Whether you have restrictions or not, you're gonna be pretty.

[B]

That was the word.

[A]

Yeah, that was the word.

[B]

I'm just looking at the maps.

[C]

You're driving.

[B]

Yeah. The closest I've been is Ohio. So you could drive all the way up to Pennsylvania. Within Alabama.

[A]

Yeah. Now if you're going through Pennsylvania, you. If you don't have a license, you need to have your. Your firearm stored in a. In a lockbox, unloaded. If you have a concealed carry license, you can carry it through the state.

[B]

You got to be careful with Maryland with it. You're going up through Maryland?

[A]

Yeah. I don't remember what we said on Maryland. I am going to Maryland here pretty soon. Yeah. I'm spending a couple weeks there.

[B]

You're driving too, ain't you?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Work or vacation?

[B]

Work.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know why. To go there on vacation.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I hope we don't have Maryland listeners now because they can find Their estate.

[A]

No, I got. I've been there. It's not bad. Go. I'm up in the Aberdeen area going up to hav the Grace, get some seafood.

[B]

When you going?

[A]

1st of March.

[B]

All right, good deal.

[A]

So that's Pennsylvania.

[B]

That's not as bad as I thought it was going to be.

[A]

No, it's a good state. The only thing I didn't really, the only thing I didn't like about it was their register. Gun registry.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

At the state level, I didn't much care for that otherwise. Overall, it's as good as Alabama is. Maybe a little bit better other than

[B]

no constitutes of carrier. But there's really not a lot of states that have true constitutional anyway. Right, Exactly. All right, so let's move on. So that. I think that's it for that. For that. What's our next state?

[A]

I have to look at my map,

[B]

but let's move on. So I got a. Some another response back.

[A]

I can't figure out what comes after Pennsylvania. Wouldn't it be Rhode Island? What are you looking at the map for? How are you guys doing the list alphabetically? Sometimes it's a struggle.

[B]

Yeah, don't look at my newsletter.

[A]

Determine which state we're going to get that. You never get that. Right.

[B]

I missed that one bad. I put Nebraska is what we was doing this time.

[A]

We did Oregon the previous SO episode in my newsletter.

[B]

By the way, if you want to get my newsletter, go to my website, clear creekshooting33.com and subscribe to the newsletter and try to send one out of every couple weeks with what's going on in the past episode, what we're going to do in the next episode. There's some in the new stuff on that episode and I try to do. If we get something from a listener, we'll put that in there.

[A]

Oh, crap. Yeah, I missed one. Puerto Rico.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

But I wasn't thinking territories. I was just thinking states.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, we'll do Puerto Rico.

[C]

They need to follow you guys on Instagram and Facebook too.

[A]

Yeah, if we actually posted, I wouldn't follow us on Facebook. We don't post anything. No, don't hardly post anything on Instagram. We did two years ago.

[C]

I'm gonna post that picture I took of you on Instagram after the podcast.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

Can we just. Can we just get a picture of the holster? Let's do that.

[C]

We'll see.

[A]

Boom.

[B]

We'll see.

[A]

Whatever.

[B]

All right.

[A]

What you got next? We got anything next?

[B]

Yeah. So I was talking about the newsletter I had a article in there about Australia and we talked a bit about Australia the last few. A couple episodes ago we got some response back from Dave, our Australian listener.

[A]

Oh, no, better picture than that.

[B]

That's awful.

[C]

That's not a bad picture. You're talking.

[B]

All right, so I did put a video in there with Dave doing a joke on. In his Australian accent.

[A]

So if you'd like. He faked his Australian accent. What do you mean me? He's probably. That's probably the way he speaks.

[B]

Well, I know that that's what he was saying.

[A]

If you ever wanted to know what

[B]

a real Australian sounds like, go to that video and you can kind of hear him.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But also he sent us some stuff. This is back.

[A]

What are you hitting over there?

[B]

This is related to that shooting that they had there. And what was the name of that

[A]

place they had that shooting at Bundy Beach.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. So here's a bit of an update on what's happening in the land of Ozzy. And I'm just going to read what he wrote. So it's a bit long but I'll try to get through it pretty as quick as I can. So after the dust has settled a bit, the federal government realized they can't make state laws of any kind. They had this big talk fest with lots of grandstanding and all the gun ban slogans they got from the usa. He's right.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And have settled on a few main points but have not. And he put in quote in quotations or in parentheses cannot release the full bill until it goes past the Senate in the next few weeks. They had a call and support from different sides of politics to find enough votes in Parliament. And this has caused some major dummy splits around the parties and brief. So there's several different parties in Australia. You got the ALP which sports holds the government. And they're like the Biden Democrats. You got the LNP are like Republicans but they must get help from the NP who are like Conservatives. And the Greens are known as the Watermelon Party. Green on the outside, commies on the inside. That's what he wrote. So everybody has a following out.

[A]

Your microphone moving could be I don't know the table.

[B]

So luckily they're not. They're not done anything yet. They do have some title. Tighter federal control on imports would ban them at the border way of forcing states to comply and double up on paperwork for importers. So you must be a citizen to get a license. Not sure this would stop bad people from being bad people as 99% have proven to be bad. People don't have a license now. And their holy grail, a national gun buyback. Last time in 96 they think they got one third of all guns, but most were rusty POS guns that nobody wanted anyway.

[A]

Kind of like the buybacks that happen here. I think they get old guns.

[B]

Oh yeah. A third were registered and the other third became known as ghost guns. So that's not gonna work. And where he's at in Queensland has had a permanent amnesty on all firearms for decades. So if you can find a gun, you call the police and they come and get it. Almost no questions asked. So I still wouldn't do that. And he was talking about. A lot of people don't do that either. So luckily, even though with all the talk there they haven't put in any more gun control. That's going to be our first country we do. Once we get past all the states and trying to go through what all they have in place, we'll probably lean on Dave a little bit more to get some of that, get more information from him on how they do. He's already provided quite a bit on what he does and what hoops he has to go through to get to get the guns he wants.

[C]

That's.

[B]

That's what I got from him. Thanks again today.

[A]

Then.

[B]

The last thing I had before I turn it over to you if you get anything left, is our next. Our next little outing will be the gun Policy conference in September up in Dallas. So we'll be heading up there probably September 24th, go to the. A few sessions on the 25th and probably head back on the 26th. Kind of the plan right now. So we'll definitely might even do a podcast from Dallas. We've done that. But we did that before when we were doing the NRA show. So we might do one.

[A]

I know. John Wick episode. Wouldn't it?

[B]

I believe it was. Yeah, y believe it was. That's all I got.

[A]

You got anything else or was it Denra? Makes more sense. Yeah, No, I think you next. Next episode. I think we need to have some better self defense scenarios. Maybe I have to start coming up with some of those where we actually kind of break them down instead of just talking about road rage. It didn't do us any good. So all I'm saying is do better.

[B]

That could wait till the end. You just do that right there in the podcast.

[A]

This is the end.

[B]

I mean actually dumb. No, it's fine. Let's just call it out of everybody. No that's fine.

[A]

Is there anything else you want to criticize me for before we. Before we close this podcast? No, that's all the criticism. Criticize my wife. A good job. I'm glad you're here, Misty. Thank you.

[B]

That's all.

[A]

I Jody to put the microphone over a little bit more. Have been better.

[B]

Whatever. You got anything else?

[A]

No.

[B]

You got anything?

[C]

I'm good.

[B]

All right. We are everything guns.

[A]

We're out church. I decided to do better. That's all we ask, do better.

[C]

I think he was excited cuz I was going to be on it.