Shot Show 2026 Recap (Episode 69)

Summary

Everything Guns Podcast: Shot Show 2026 Recap (Episode 69)

Hosts: David and Jody Smith
Date: January 26, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this special, slightly shorter episode, David and Jody deliver an on-the-ground recap of Shot Show 2026, sharing first-hand impressions, notable firearms and gear, and insights from ATF/DOJ town halls. They discuss emerging trends in suppressors and thermal optics, preview new models from brands like Canik and Odin Works, and dig into Second Amendment policy shifts and hot-button news. The show is loaded with candid opinions, personal favorites, and their characteristic blend of humor and analysis.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Shot Show 2026: General Impressions

• Smaller Crowds: David notes that attendance seemed lighter than in previous years, especially on the second day. Suggests shifting the visit to later in the week next year, as many attendees leave by Friday.
• Trends: The expo was marked by a heavy focus on suppressors and a notable surge in thermal optics.
  • “It was very heavy on suppressors, just like we thought it would be. And it was a lot of thermal. A lot of thermal scopes…” (00:44)
• Night Vision & Thermal: Good Night Gear stood out for offering relatively affordable digital night vision and thermal scopes ($1,000+), reflecting a shift from previous years’ emphasis on night vision.
• Suppressor Pricing: Noted a company offering a $100 suppressor, but David explains personal lack of interest due to legal/regulatory limitations in their area.
  • “There was one suppressor company that had a hundred dollar suppressor. But since I can't deal with suppressors…” (02:14)

Law & Policy Insights from ATF Sessions

• ATF/DOJ Town Hall: Attended by figures from the Trump administration, the ATF, and the DOJ, with discussions centering on changes in gun regulations, interpretations of Second Amendment rights, and the practical details behind enforcement.
• Tax Stamp Changes: Confusion addressed—the fee for tax stamps (for suppressors/SBRs) is gone, but the legal tax stamp process remains.
  • “The fee is gone. You still have to get the tax stamp…” (02:55)
• Second Amendment Debate: Panelists claimed to support 2A rights, but David perceived more allegiance to political administration than to the amendment itself.
  • “They were more for pro the administration than I think they are pro second Amendment.” (13:09)
• Legislation: Questions from attendees pressed the DOJ/ATF on holding politicians accountable for unconstitutional laws, removing the NFA, and recent changes in legal approach.
  • “It is not a crime to write or create an unconstitutional law and to get it passed.” (16:08)
  • On removing the NFA: “Only Congress can eliminate the nfa. Well, we got control of Congress.” (16:36)
• Staff Turnover: Notably, two-thirds of ATF lawyers resigned with the new administration, an indicator of policy and attitude shifts. (15:08)

Gun Gear Highlights

New & Notable Firearms

• Canik (Century Arms):
  • MC9LS (in FDE): Jody acquired and shot the new model, impressed by its flat shooting and design.
    • “Shot My hollow points through… real flat shooting. I was surprised how flat shooting.” (25:41)
  • MC9 Prime Radiant: Features the Radiant Ramjet barrel and integrated suppressor, $100 more than the standard Prime.
    • “They advertise it as adding 600 worth of equipment on and only raising the price by 200 now. Bull crap, dude.” (05:24)
  • Expansion into optics (LPVOs, red dots) with sharp glass quality, start at $699+.
• Odin Works:
  • Displayed innovative AR builds and stocks, including the Zulu adjustable stock (David ordered one for his SBR).
• Goat 15 (AR-Style 22):
  • Ultra-lightweight .22lr AR, 16” barrel, 2 lbs 14 ounces, MSRP $469.99. (09:03)
• Savage Precision Rifles:
  • New 110 series offers significant upgrades, price has notably increased from prior models.
• JP Enterprises:
  • Continued AR innovation, with a wide range of options on display.
• Arsenal Dragon Pistol (competing with Alien):
  • Prototype, striking design, $3,000–$4,000 price range, unique lower bore axis, fixed barrel and charging system.
    • “I recommend everybody ride out Arsenal Dragon pistol. Go on YouTube and watch a video…” (11:13)
    • “So your optic's going to stay still during the…” (12:17)
• Glock Gen 6:
  • Briefly discussed, but both hosts dismiss it as lacking significant advancement—"it's just a Glock." (24:19)

Gear and Accessories

• Hearing Protection:
  • Noted abundance of earplug-type (rather than muff-style) hearing protection, with Walker’s leading the pack.
• Holsters:
  • Jody ordered a Tier One Zyphos Elite for his new MC9LS, opting for a non-mag carrier version:
    • “If I had a spare mag, I'd be a mass killer… I don’t want the government saying I was a mass killer. So…I'm just going with 17 plus one.” (27:27)
• Integrated Suppressors & Accessories:
  • More handguns and rifles featured silencers/suppressors as built-in or standard options. SIG and Staccato had notable releases (“Staccato had a new gun coming out, but man, their booth was just packed.” [25:18])

Compliance & Background Checks

• NICS Background Checks:
  • 97% completed within the first day; NFA checks (for suppressors, SBRs) now routinely done in two business days.
  • David explains database checks: NCIC (criminal), mental health, other prohibited status indices. (21:47)
  • Under-21 buyers subject to additional checks and delays, a point of pride for ATF reps (to hosts’ annoyance).
    • “They were definitely proud of that fact…that additional check has kept some 18, 19 year old 20 year old kids from purchasing a gun.” (22:30)
• Straw Purchases & FFL Compliance:
  • Zero tolerance is gone, but revocation for willful violations persists.
• ATF Seminars:
  • David finds value as an FFL dealer in both compliance updates and stats, though he chose to skip many boring figures.

Second Amendment & Community Debate

• “Pro2A” Claims Challenged:
  • Hosts slam what they view as political opportunism, citing politicians who claim to be “gun owners.”
    • “Kamala Harris said she was a gun owner. Everybody’s a gun owner.” (14:55)
• Recent Minneapolis Shooting:
  • Teased as a future topic; hosts lament extreme polarization and misinformation around use of force cases.
    • “What irritates me is you’re either on one side or the other. There’s no middle ground.” (03:43)
• Magazine Carry Hysteria:
  • Mock “mass killer” accusations against anyone with spare mags; urge consistency in defending 2A rights regardless of political affiliation.
    • “This guy had a right to...Everybody has a right to carry, regardless of what political affiliation.” (18:10)
• Frustration at Political Narratives:
  • “You can't be Pro2A for just one side.” (18:10)
  • “If we're gonna be Pro2A, be Pro2A regardless of who's in power and who's doing what.” (18:53)

Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “They advertise it as adding 600 worth of equipment on and only raising the price by 200 now. Bull crap, dude.” – David on Canik MC9 Prime Radiant pricing (05:24)
• “It’s just a Glock, man. It’s just...” – David on Glock Gen 6 (24:19)
• “If I had a spare mag, I’d be a mass killer...I don’t want the government saying I was a mass killer.” – Jody (27:27)
• “You can't be Pro2A for just one side.” – David (18:10)
• “It's a God given right. Protect yourself.” – Jody (19:08)
• “Everybody's too amped up… We gotta step back a little bit and figure out what we can do here.” – David (20:24)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:34-01:09: General impressions of Shot Show attendance and trends
• 01:45-02:25: Suppressors discussion, tax stamp confusion
• 02:25-03:09: ATF town hall preview
• 04:15-07:14: Gear rundown (Canik, Odin Works, new ARs, optics updates)
• 09:03-09:16: Goat 15 AR-style .22lr details
• 09:44-10:57: Savage precision rifles, Odin stock purchase
• 11:06-12:34: Arsenal Dragon pistol/Aliens discussion
• 13:09-14:55: ATF/DOJ town hall impressions; Second Amendment rhetoric
• 16:08-17:04: Audience Q&A at town hall: NFA, unconstitutional laws
• 17:11-19:08: Political narratives, Minneapolis shooting preview
• 21:15-22:30: NICS check speeds, under-21 policies
• 23:11-23:53: Straw purchase vigilance and FFL compliance
• 24:19-25:41: Glock Gen 6, Canik MC9LS, new Echelon FC, Staccato notes
• 25:41-27:35: MC9LS review, holster choices, mag carry debate
• 28:30-end: Closing remarks, future episode topics

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Tone & Language

David and Jody blend technical expertise, irreverent humor, and passionate Second Amendment advocacy. Their rapport brings both earnest analysis and comedic banter, as they balance detailed product assessments with unfiltered takes on gun legislation and cultural debate.

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Next Episode Teaser

Look out for the next episode with a deep-dive on the Minneapolis shooting and comparative reviews of the Canik MC9LS, Echelon, and TP9SC—plus more hands-on shooting insights and gear coverage.

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For listeners who missed the episode, this summary provides a comprehensive look at Shot Show 2026 highlights, ongoing regulatory shifts, and the latest debates in the firearms community, all delivered with Everything Guns’ signature style.

Transcript

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Like that pointing right at you. Start this thing up.

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Let's do it.

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Welcome to Everything Guns, episode 69.

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69.

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So this is gonna be a little bit shorter episode. Just wanted to do a quick recap of Shot Show 20, 26 that I just got back from this past.

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We're a little disappointed with that.

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What do you mean disappointed?

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I didn't get an echelon. Oh.

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Because

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I thought we zoned or something when he got delayed.

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But no, no, no. Issues with the plane. They switches to a different plane.

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A good.

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Pretty good show. You know, right off the bat, I don't think it was as crowded this year as it has been in the past couple years. I've been there, but it was still a lot of people there.

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I don't know why.

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And I don't know. I just noticed the. Especially the second day didn't seem as crowded. I might switch up the way I do it next year. Do Wednesday through Friday instead of a Tuesday through Thursday because I guarantee you Fridays, everybody's flying out on Friday. So anyway, it might be a little bit different. It was very heavy on suppressors, just like we thought it would be. And it was a lot of thermal. A lot of thermal scopes, which I was. You know, it's been a lot of night vision the last few years, but they really added a lot of different thermal scopes. And I did pull. I did stop at this one vendor. Good night gear. And they're. They're actually not priced extraordinarily high. So you can get a good. It looks like a good decent thermal or night vision digital night vision scope for, you know, a thousand bucks. A little bit higher, depending on what you want to get. So. And they've got. So they had some pretty good stuff there, but man, it was just everywhere you could go find thermal, everywhere on the suppressors.

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What would the pro. You see any process.

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I didn't really look. I didn't.

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Since.

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I don't know.

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It sounds much better when you get closer to the mic.

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Echo. Do you hear an echo?

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I did. When you. Way back. Yeah, when you like in the. Away from your microphone. Yeah. Oh, that's much better.

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Start over.

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No, we'll go with that. But yeah. Hey, that's. That's a lot better.

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I did hear the echo.

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I don't hear it now.

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No, it was something going on. I don't hear it now.

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No, it's you standing. Oh, whatever, eight feet.

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But anyway, I didn't really look at pricing. There was one suppressor company that had a hundred dollar suppressor. But since I can't deal with suppressors, I didn't really spend a lot of time looking.

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They were.

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Yeah, it was. They were everywhere, though. They had a lot of them everywhere. Even when. And I'll talk about this more when we get to the session where I, where I did we. I did have a go to a town hall with the atf, which had a lot of, A lot of the administration from the Trump administration there and then also did a compliance seminar the next day. But the atf, one of the ladies made a statement about now, now that the tax stamps are gone.

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They're not, they're not gone.

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The fee is gone. You still have to get the tax stamp. And it just irritates me. It's similar to way the standard stand your ground thing when people misuse that. But the tax stamp is still there. But good night gear. They look like they had some good stuff.

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Hey, speaking of stand your ground, the. The governor in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Minnesota, right.

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Yeah. Is he the one that said that?

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He said, hey, we're gonna start using standard ground against us.

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Oh, my gosh, that's so stupid.

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Oh, there's a lot of other stuff going on there, but yeah, we don't understand what standing ground is.

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We're not going to get into the. The latest shooting out of Minneapolis. We will talk about it next episode. Kind of a. From a use of force standpoint, there's a lot of videos out on that. And what irritates me is you're either on one side or the other. There's no middle ground. People just cannot see it from. From either the other person's viewpoint or

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you tend to be going like echo and not echo. I don't know.

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I don't think it's. It's not from where I'm at. It's.

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I don't know what to do with

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my radio, my microphone. I don't know.

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It's weird.

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Yeah, I noticed that.

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Yeah.

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I don't know. I don't know what's going on with that.

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Well, the thing that bothers me most about all this is our. Our government is showing the anti two way. Oh, I thought you just started into it.

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No, I said we'll get into that in a minute.

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Oh, yeah. Well, yeah.

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Let's go through the gears.

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Throw me out.

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Let's go through the gear stuff first.

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So we're gonna shot show gear.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So as many as we've mentioned many times on this podcast, we're big fans of Canik. So I spent A lot of time at the Cannon booth. You just got the new. Well not the new. You get the MC9LS like it and FDE. Yeah. So it's a nice looking gun.

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Yeah, just shot it today.

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I just had a customer order the mechanic MC9 Prime. It's in and then they came out with a new MC9 Prime Radiant. It's got the Radiant ramjet barrel.

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Right.

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And integrated suppressor. It's going to be a little bit more expensive. It's 100 more.

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Yeah, I thought the.

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Yeah, it's got the. What they call the app that's the Ramjet.

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Well the. Right, the. The prime already had an integrated suppressor so. Yeah.

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Yeah. This ramjet like they, they've got this make it for Glock and some other pistols.

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Yeah.

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My microphone keeps going. I don't know what's going on with it. It's weird. Let me see if I can adjust it.

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Maybe you suck.

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I don't know what's going on with it. I keep hearing the echo. But anyway, so that was a pretty cool gun. They. They advertise it as adding 600 worth of equipment on and only raising the price by 200 now. Bull crap, dude. That's the way they.

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I call bull crap on.

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That's the way they were advertised. It is a nice. It is a nasty.

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They're not losing money on the gun.

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That's bull crap. I also went by a place called Odin, Odin Works and they had a lot of different types of ars and that was another thing. It's been common over the last several

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and they're always big ar NRA show. All these shows.

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Talking about the innovation. There was some innovation that was there. Canik is coming out with. Well not Canik but Century Arms who distributes Canik in the US is is teaming up with US Palms Arms and doing some AR style rifles which boy those look good. They're going to be in the price range of probably thirteen fourteen hundred dollars. Starting point really competing against the Daniel Defense stuff, the Springfield Armory stuff. They, the rifles were really nice. I think they're going to be a good, good looking rifle. US pounds is and Century Arms both are real heavy into the AK style rifle. So this new AR rival is really going to be nice. And with that Canika is coming out with quite a bit new options for optics from lpv, lpv, LPVO and. And scopes and. And some red dots. So they come out with. And they're going to be starting from the I think the price range of 6.99 and up for the. For the LPVO and for the scopes and the clarity on those SC that the glass on them, it was just. It was impressive just from looking through those there. So I'll definitely look at one of those scopes when they come out.

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So what else on shot show other than it seemed like less people. What else did you notice there?

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I already mentioned the. A lot of.

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Yeah. I mean, you know, thermal suppressors. Nice ars. Yeah.

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I looked at quite a few different types of hearing protection because I do have a customer looking for some. Not the muffs top but the. The earplug top hearing production. So there's a couple. Quite a few of those were there.

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Yeah.

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Pulled it. Pulled. You know, Walkers had some good ones. Of course Walker's always got good hearing protection, but I also found a few more that's got some good.

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I was saying you was, you know, promoting the podcast a lot. Huh?

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Not a lot of chance to promote the podcast. I did talk to a survey or not a lot of chance promoted.

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How's there no chance to promote it?

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Who am I promoting it to? By. By the vendors.

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Yeah. Well, I bet they listen to podcasts.

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Yeah, well, I did that last year and we. We had that one person call us and then they never called us back to promote their. Their stuff. There was this AR goat dash 15. So they're. They're promoting a smaller AR style 22 rifle. A one piece small. A one small piece.

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One piece small. Yeah.

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Yeah, it was a nice looking little gun.

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Small. How small isn't?

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I mean it's the M&P 22 and just a little bit smaller than the MMP 22.

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So I actually feel good about it.

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I mean it's just the frame and

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everything is just a little 16 inch barrel, right? Yeah.

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Still 16 inch barrel, one and half by 28 muzzle threads. And so it will take most of your suppressors.

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Do we need a smaller 22? Because MMP22 already seems pretty.

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I mean it only weighs 2 pounds 14 ounces 27.75. It's a nice little gun. Okay. I mean priced at 469.99 MSRP. So, you know, not a bad price. No, it's a good price.

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That is a good price. Okay.

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They had pistols and they were pretty cool. The goat 15 I might look at being a dealer for them because you can sign up and they were sitting trying to get me to sign up as a dealer, so looked at a lot of different gun parts. I looked at the. I mentioned Odin Works. They had some Nice ars. But they also had some nice stocks and I actually ordered me a stock for my short barrel rifle. It's going to be a cool looking little stock there it is.

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Yeah, that's good for.

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It's from Odin Works. It's a Zulu adjustable stock. Yeah. So we, yeah, the pictures, I got some good pictures of that one. It looks, it looks pretty nice. Looked at some Savage precision rifles. You know I've got the Axis precision rifle now. They've come out with a new version, the 110. It's a bit more expensive but they, they made some big improvements, big improvements on it. I mean there's just a nice, it's a nice looking raffle. A lot of precision raffles there this year. A lot of precision rifles. Tika had some precision rifles there at Savage. A lot of other places. Bergara, which I was, you know, I mentioned them, I think I might have mentioned them last episode. They had some, some nice ones. Some of those are pretty pricey. This, even the Savage I think is around two grand for the. That one. Compared to. I bought my Savage for like 800. A little over 800 now they're priced at about a thousand. So over a couple years those, those guns have gone up quite a bit. And then JP Enterprises, they had a. I think it changed. Yeah. JP Enterprises, a lot of good ars there. I looked at a lot of Ars because I'm looking at.

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Man, that's why all these shows you go to, it's ar start kind of running together pistol wise.

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There was I think a pistol that they're creating.

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I.

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It didn't say it, but it looks like to compete against that alien pistol. The heck.

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You send it to me.

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I sent it to you. What was the name of that one? The Dragon. And it is. I recommend everybody ride out Arsenal Dragon pistol. Go on YouTube and watch, watch a video on that pistol. How you take it apart.

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You can't watch it on YouTube. They don't take it apart on YouTube.

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Do they not?

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No. Well, you got to watch it somewhere else.

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Had it on his Instagram post taking it apart. I mean it is, it is cool.

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It's pricey though.

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Yeah. I think it's a three or four thousand dollar gun. Yeah. I mean I don't, I don't know.

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But they come. Yeah, I'm not sure what the market is. They're only. They're in prototype right now from what I saw in the video.

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Yeah, yeah, it's like. It's a coup.

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I mean low bore actually similar to the alienware.

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Yeah, I think they might have created or fixed the issue with the heat just from the way they built the gun.

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Yeah. But I'm still trying to figure out the market for that.

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The way they've got that gun. If you look at it. So the. You can, you, you can charge around by pulling the whole slide back. If you wanted to use your optic to kind of pull the slide.

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Yeah.

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Or if you grab the. Hold the end and just use the end, it doesn't move the optic. So there's a little.

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Yeah.

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So your optic's going to stay still during the.

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Yeah, well, it's also a fixed barrel like the alien. Alien. Where Alien. Is it Alienware. Alien.

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Just alien.

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Okay.

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I think it's what it is. But anyway, that was a pretty cool, pretty cool looking pistol. So just a moving. Like I said, this is going to be a little bit shorter episode. We'll get into just a little bit of what I did while I was at the atf. Nick's Town Hall. So the atf, Nixon, all that. That one really. They had a lot of people there from the Trump administration. They had the White House counsel. He was definitely a pro Trump guy. And you know, they, I will say

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everyone think they'd be pro Trump.

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Yeah. Every one of these guys and ladies there were talking about how much they were for the Second Amendment, but they were more for pro the administration than I think they are pro second Amendment. And it's easy to, you know, they were saying the right things. But even he mentioned it's easy to say these things but you got to back it up. She had, the White House counsel was there. He was definitely talking about protecting the second Amendment. The deputy attorney general, he was there. Todd Blanche, he spoke for a little bit. You got the general counsel for the ATF and this guy, Rob Leader, he is pro2A. He's. He is. You look at some of the things he's written from when he was in the academic world. He, he's got some things that are definitely. He was all Pro2A. Even he wrote one article I was reading where he was arguing that prior to Bruin and Heller, most of the. Most of the courts were looking at the second Amendment as mainly for militias. And then with Heller and Bruin it flipped it and then it's moving more toward an individual right for self defense. And he's arguing whether it should be a blend of both. Is more of a right for both self defense and protection against the government. Where he thinks Bruin and Heller has moved away from using that type of verbiage of protect. You should be there for protecting against the tyrannical government. So he, he has some good, interesting stuff. He had. The assistant attorney general was there from California. And it was funny because everyone said, well, I'm a gun owner too. You know, she kept talking about she was a gun owner. She had a crap.

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Kamala Harris said she was a gun owner. Everybody's a gun owner.

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And she did have a background of suing the government. Now she's in, in the, in the administration, in the, in that new office that they've opened up in the doj.

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Yeah, Well, I believe when stuff starts happening, it's pro second Amendment. Yeah.

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What is interesting is they did say, you know, when the new administration took office, two thirds of the lawyers in that, in the ATF quit.

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So it just shows you they weren't crazy.

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Yeah, they weren't pro2a. They was. They. They quit. So we're supposed to be seeing some new updated regulations coming out soon. The last government shut down kind of delayed some of that, and it looks

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like the next one might delay. Good chance one this weekend.

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So they're working right now on a process for felons to regain some of their rights, and there's going to be some other changes made. What was interesting there toward the end, they, they had asked for questions from the audience, and it was a good, decent crowd there for the town hall. And you had a couple people stand up and one guy asked, when is the DOJ going to start charging some of these politicians for introducing unconstitutional laws? And, and they specifically said that it is not a crime to write or create an unconstitutional law and to get it passed. Yet another one asked, well, you know, they kept talking about, well, we've gotten rid of the tax on the, for the tax stamp for the SBRs and suppressors. And it was, well, why don't we start getting. Why don't we get rid of the nfa? And their answer was, only Congress can eliminate the nfa. Well, we got control of Congress.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah, you know, that's just saying,

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yeah, we don't even need. We just need a majority. We don't need a super majority.

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And then, you know, there was a no after that question was asked, okay, if we can't get rid of it, why is it. Why is Pam Bondi defending the NFA in court? And they didn't really have a good answer at all. Their answer was, well, we can't just say we're wrong on all these laws.

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Yeah, they could surely.

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Yeah, they were Trying to say the right things. But I think they got stumped with some of the questions.

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Well, this week is not helping them.

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Well, I know, I mean you, you got guys sitting there Talking about how Pro2A they are and then you have the situation that you, you want to talk about and we talk about from, from the Minneapolis shooting and what the government is saying about that it shows their approach.

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Or Christy Noem, Cash Patel, both come out and he had two spare magazines on him.

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Yeah.

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He, he was there for a mass killing because he had two spare magazines.

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I've heard people say, well that's so stupid. I've heard people say, you know, there was quotes about well, he shouldn't have been carrying it. A protest. Well, there was a protest in Virginia. Pro to a protest.

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10,000 people carrying. Well, yeah, I watched a Mr. Guns and Gear and he was talking about that. He was showing, he was talking about how they were talking about the magazines shouldn't have spare magazines. And it showed. He said I'm handing out 30 round magazines at all these protests.

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Yeah.

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And he's showing all the pro Trump protests that was going on at one time and everybody's carrying ars. Yeah. So it's this pick and choose.

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You can't be Pro2A for just one side.

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No, this guy had a right to.

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Everybody has a right to carry regardless of what political affiliation.

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He could have carried five magazines. I don't care.

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He could have had an AR stripped on his back. It's still legal.

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So equating that. So he must have. He must then coming out. Well, he didn't have his so gay permit on legal for him to give. Well, that's a misdemeanor even if they choose to.

[A]

But they didn't know that with the Pro 2A people argue we shouldn't have to have.

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Exactly. We should be constitutional carry. You shouldn't be in fact infringing upon my right. But then something happens and then we're going to do that. So it's frustrating. We're either Pro2A or we're not.

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Yeah.

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And if we're gonna be Pro2A, be

[A]

Pro2A regardless of who's. Who's in power and who's doing what. Everybody for Everybody. I'm nearly Pro2A for people that don't even live in the United States. It's just not a rat that the United States gives.

[B]

No. It's a God given right. Protect yourself. So it's just frustrating. Some of the responses we get out of even Trump sending out tweets oh, my God. And stuff about how this guy was. Was obviously out to kill everybody because he had two magazines.

[A]

Yeah. It's just stupid.

[B]

So it's.

[A]

We gotta. We gotta push back.

[B]

Frustrating.

[A]

Our side's got to push back. The two A side. Well, we gotta talk about being so

[B]

dang emotional about stuff.

[A]

Oh, the emotions are high.

[B]

We can't be so emotional and just dig into, hey, my side is right. My side is on the side. Your side is obviously wrong. Let's. Let's quit being emotional and have a conversation.

[A]

And we're definitely going to talk about the shooting in Minneapolis, the one with the ICU nurse. I'm not going to really get into the one with the lady, but we are going to talk about this use of force on both sides, on what he could have done or it should have done and what they did and. And just kind of look at it from that standpoint and try to.

[B]

Again, other than him not being there. I know what he should have done. Yeah. Because I don't. I don't think he grabbed it. I don't think he had his weapon and somebody else did.

[A]

No, I agree.

[B]

But.

[A]

Yeah, but, you know, when we, when we get there, we're gonna.

[B]

Everybody's too amped up. Everybody. Yeah. Too many people agitating and too many people on. On the.

[A]

Well, law enforcement.

[B]

Law enforcement.

[A]

Better job of keeping their emotions amped up.

[B]

Everybody's amped up. Not calming down. We gotta. We gotta. We gotta step back a little bit and figure out what we can do here.

[A]

Yeah. So the second part, moving on. The second part of the town hall was where the Knicks individuals kind of went through some of the stats associated with the background checks. And so 97% of checks are. Are completely within the first day. So if you, if you go in and you know, whether that's the first 15 seconds, which I think is like 70% or 30 minutes later or. The first day. 97% of checks are cleared and approved on day one. NFA checks have been served within two business days. So those NFA checks are starting to go pretty quick. I know they're asking for more funding to keep that going, but they should have plenty. Yeah.

[B]

I listened to a podcast the other day talking about how fast the turnaround on the suppressors and all. And one of the main reasons they were saying was that they were about to be sued over the delays, how long it was taking them, and they had to fix something. And this was how they fixed it. They. They made quick turnaround so they wouldn't get sued and then just be going away.

[A]

You know they weren't doing it try to help. They were doing no and it was

[B]

going to show that. So now they're, they're turning around pretty quick.

[A]

So yeah, so it's for their self

[B]

preservation but it is helpful to those that are looking to get us a

[A]

pressure and if you've ever, if you've ever wondered what triggers a delay and we've talked, I've talked about the database searches that they do. They use three databases and it's been a while since I think I've mentioned this probably last year. So they use the NCIC database which is a criminal database. So if you've got any criminal record they check the I database which, which checks if you've been in mentally in a mental institution and then they check a. Some type of indices. I can't remember which one this is. It just looks for prohibited individuals. So if you've been. If you've got some. Something that's flagged you as a prohibited individual. So it checks those three. Now if you're under 21 it goes to additional databases and checks and now they have a additional delay which I think is ridiculous. They're boy they're proud of that. They're proud of that delay. They're proud of. Why would they be proud of it? Because it's found some people that shouldn't have a gun on those additional checks that they've done a very small percentage but they were definitely, they were definitely proud of that fact that that is. That additional check is. Is kept some 18, 19 year old 20 year old kids from purchasing a gun. And then the next day I went to a ATF compliance seminar and they got some good stats on that. I'm not going to go into all the stats because I know it gets boring after a while but I will

[B]

talk about pretty quick.

[A]

They, they really talked talked about straw purchases and we've. I've talked about that before how that how you as an ffl you really have to watch for that. And I didn't mention, you know they, they also mentioned the zero tolerance policy is, is been eliminated but that's still going through some of that is still going through the courts. But willful violations still can cause revocation because course it could. I mean why would you think it wouldn't? So it was a couple interesting seminars and town halls got got a little bit out of both of them. So it was helpful for me as an FFL dealer anyway.

[B]

So.

[A]

Pretty cool stuff.

[B]

Yeah. Any. Anything else interesting? Do you look at any folding stock shotguns or anything like that? You know, I went over to the

[A]

kill tech to look at the one they.

[B]

It didn't.

[A]

I couldn't find it. They had a small booth but that.

[B]

I thought USCCA guy was. He might have.

[A]

But I didn't see it when I went over there. It might not have been there when I went there. But I looked, you know, I did look at a lot of different firearms.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Pretty cool stuff there. So. But.

[B]

So you went by the Glock.

[A]

I did go by the Glock and looked at the Gen 6. Not. It's just a clock, man. It's just.

[B]

We don't like Glocks. Do you?

[A]

I don't. I don't like Glocks. I don't like the triggers. I don't like the look of them. I just don't like them. And I don't like the Gen 6. It didn't look that much different to me than any other. I say I saw some of the V series and I saw some of the older styles and just.

[B]

I don't even know how they have the V series still since I got the Gen 6.

[A]

I don't know why they have any of them. Yeah, crap to me. Not a fan of gl. I looked at some. Echelon has got a new. A new one coming out. The FC. Yeah, it's just a longer grip. Then it's the 4.0 FC. It's just got a longer grip than my 4.0 C. That's the only real difference in it. A lot of integrated suppressor stuff in some of these barrels. I think SIG had some new stuff. I didn't really get up around a lot of this stuff. Staccato had a new gun coming out, but man, their. Their booth was just packed. Yeah, it's usually packed.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was really impressed with the Canik stuff because I always am. The rifles I'll be glad for some of those rifles come out in the scopes.

[B]

Speaking again. You know, I got my MC9LS in. Yeah, got it.

[A]

Picked it up today.

[B]

You got back what was Friday. Yeah. Oh, my bad. Point that right at you. My bad

[A]

looking gun. You got it in the fde.

[B]

Yeah, he is nice. Yeah, I put my. Put my red dot on. It looks good on there. It's got the long slide and it's got the like a leg extended grip. So it's. Man, it made it feel. I shot a little bit today. Went out to the range today. Shot it a little bit. Shot My hollow points through. It shot some 115 grain. Man, it shot good. It was real flat shooting. I was surprised how flat shooting.

[A]

It's got some built in flare on that. Yeah. On that handle too for the mag, don't it?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, a little bit. Yep. Yeah. I mean it dropped nice. Yeah, it's, it's. It's nice, man. Easy to. Easy to get it back there and it's just. It can do more of a view after I shoot some more with it.

[A]

But yeah, I did.

[B]

I shot I guess 50 rounds today with it.

[A]

Yeah. Next episode, next week.

[B]

It's not good.

[A]

We'll compare it to the Echelon. We'll compare it to the TC9. Now what the you say TC9?

[B]

Yeah. What it was.

[A]

What is our subcompact. The Canexo compact we got. Why did I say TC9? I don't know. Our little subcompacty.

[B]

Oh, TP9.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

See.

[A]

Yeah. TP9SC.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we, we can do it. I can't shoot the prime that we've got because it's for a customer, but we can do it side by side.

[B]

I am waiting on my holster though. So I did. I decided to go. It didn't. It fit in my holster, but it wasn't tight enough and I couldn't get it tight enough to stay in there. So I bought the. I went back to tier one because you can make me a good holster, I don't think. And bought the. I've been getting the Axis Elite that has the. The spare mag holder. But then I decided on this one to get the Zyphos Elite. It's just. There's no spare mag with it because if I, you know, these. It's got 17 rounds with it already. Oh yeah. If I had a spare mag, I'd be a mass killer.

[A]

Yeah, you'd be a mass.

[B]

I don't want the government saying I was a mass killer.

[A]

So. Yeah, you can't.

[B]

I'm just going with 17 plus one.

[A]

Yeah, that's probably a good move.

[B]

But I, I like these holsters. They. Now I'll review that too when I, when I get it on comfort and how it, how it conceals. They. They do. I've been happy with them so far. So.

[A]

You know, the, the prime was just an upgrade to the ls and the prime just added an integrated barrel. I will say the prime has got some nice grip, texture to the grip.

[B]

Yeah, a little bit more grip texturing. The Prime's got a little bit better packaging, a little bit Definitely a nicer concealed carry holster that came with the prime than I got one with this one. But it's, it's not. I mean it's.

[A]

It's a little bit.

[B]

It's a cheap little ocean that they

[A]

share with some of those. The rival, the tti, the prime. Those come with some nice packaging.

[B]

Yeah. So. But yeah, looking forward to that. Do a little more review on that. But so far I've been happy with it. Shoots well and so really good size to it. So 29 minutes into your dogs passed out.

[A]

Yeah, that's really all I had for today. Just wanted to do a quick overview of shot show from my. I don't know, observation. My observations, you know, go on to YouTube. You can find tons of. Man, there's tons of videos and stuff and you can kind of get a better idea what was all there. But that was just kind of what I did.

[B]

I used last year I watched some of your videos, see if I saw your stupid face. But I didn't. I didn't this year. Do you ever try to get any of. Do you ever look for people try

[A]

to walk through something? I see them taking pictures.

[B]

I try to walk by. Oh man, I ain't get anything.

[A]

They do. So you get a. A magazine each day you go, you get. You get a overview of the. And you see pictures from the previous day. Can't never find anything.

[B]

I found myself in a USCCA picture one time on Instagram.

[A]

Oh yeah. That's pretty cool.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So. Yeah. So I think our next. Our next outing is going to be the. There's a convention I think in September.

[B]

Yeah. Seminar or something.

[A]

Another we're talking about going to. Other than that, that's. That's really all I had for today.

[B]

Yeah. Quick episode. But good info. We'll be back again next week for our normal episode. So. So talk a little more gear. We're talking hopefully. Hopefully be close to getting my holster in.

[A]

But yeah, I should hopefully I'll have my new stocking on my ride. Talk about that too.

[B]

The Minneapolis stuff a little bit more and. And whatever else we got coming out.

[A]

Yep, sounds good. We are everything guns.

[B]

We're out.

[A]

Go get some dinner.

[B]

Yeah.