Podcast Summary: Everything They Missed x Clever Podcast
Podcast: Everything They Missed (Special: Clever Podcast with Amy Devers)
Host: Amy Devers (Clever)
Guest: Stephanie Tinsley (Creator, Everything They Missed)
Date: November 26, 2025
Overview: Creativity, Courage, and A Haunting True Crime Case
This Clever podcast episode features a deep, candid conversation between host Amy Devers and Stephanie Tinsley, creator of the investigative true crime podcast Everything They Missed. They unpack Stephanie’s unconventional journey into investigative journalism, her personal connection to high-profile trials, and the intricate, emotional work behind digging into the 2007 murder of Danny Harris in Memphis, Tennessee. The episode centers on creative reinvention, humane storytelling, and the courage to demand answers where others have given up.
Key Themes & Discussion Points
The Genesis of Everything They Missed
[05:13] Stephanie explains her leap into true crime podcasting:
- Lifelong curiosity in true crime—recalls sneaking true crime books as a child
- Everything They Missed centers on the brutal, possibly wrongful conviction case of Danny Harris
- The show begins as a "classic" true crime but evolves into a deeper probe of missed opportunities, ripple effects, and systemic oversights
- Hints at an upcoming shift in focus for the final episodes:
“The title is meaningful in episodes one through six in one way. But ... when we air our last four episodes in December, ‘everything they missed’ takes on a completely different meaning.” [06:26]
Creative Journey: Reinvention after Chaos
[04:11] Stephanie's Background:
- Grew up in Tennessee, career in law, venture capital, and private equity
- Life upended in 2022 due to her husband's (Mark Tinsley) central role in the Murdoch murder trial
- Firsthand experience with media chaos and personal terror during the high-profile case
- Gained "inside access" and a new resolve to tell stories centering victims and justice
Compassionate, Investigative Storytelling
[06:51] Amy highlights the show’s integrity:
- Commends Stephanie’s impartiality—avoiding blanket blame, instead “bringing light to the things that slip through the cracks”
- Praises Stephanie’s deep dives into police interrogation techniques and the mechanics of false confessions
- Stephanie describes halting production for months to rigorously understand interrogation and confessions:
“I halted the production ... because I wanted to better understand police interrogation techniques and ... why people would give a false confession." [09:32]
Personal Growth, Empathy, and Life Experience
[10:28] Stephanie connects trauma to empathy:
- Natural curiosity and lack of traditional training allowed her to follow her instincts:
“I didn’t know what I was doing, but I knew this had to make it into the story.” [10:55]
- Personal experiences with trauma (Murdoch tragedy, menopause) shaped her compassion and drive:
“It’s just a snapshot of my life right now ... all of these things ... don’t stop just because you and I are talking and interviewing.” [11:38]
Childhood Roots and Early Influences
[13:25] Stephanie traces her investigative mindset to childhood:
- Small town upbringing in Tullahoma, TN—lawyer father, English teacher/journalist mother
- Early love of biographies as “opportunity to look into the world”
- Parents modeled both methodical reasoning and storytelling
- Formative experiences with independence and creative risk-taking
Professional Background: Sales, Startups, and Social Fearlessness
[22:42] Stephanie describes her pivot into startups and consulting:
- Natural skill for cold calling and building trust with strangers
- Developed a keen understanding of body language—crucial for both sales and ultimately for criminal interviews
“I studied body language for a very long time ... there’s little micro expressions ... that I can read.” [25:52]
From Personal Upheaval to Investigative Drive
The Murdoch Case and Living In a Media Maelstrom
[33:22] Stephanie recounts meeting and marrying Mark Tinsley:
- Met during the pandemic, shortly before Mark’s stage 4 cancer diagnosis
- Intense, accelerated bonding through crisis
- Navigated personal fear for safety when Mark became a central figure in the Murdoch legal saga
- Real-life experience of living inside a true crime story
- Candid about keeping loaded guns for self-defense due to threats [40:33]
“I’d never been around guns ... there’s a loaded gun in the kitchen, there’s a loaded gun in the bedroom ... terrifying, to be honest.” [40:49]
Behind the Scenes: Media, Netflix, Learning the Craft
[42:47] Stephanie on Netflix filming the Murdoch documentary in her home:
- First exposure to media mechanics—“I didn’t know what a producer was ... what B-roll was”
- Observed journalists; learned both what to emulate and what to avoid
“There were things I would think I wouldn’t do that, or ... I would be more prepared than that ... And that’s when ... the seed was planted. Like, wonder if I could do that.” [43:05]
Building Everything They Missed: Methodology & Intimacy
Organic Reporting and Authentic Moments
[48:11] Stephanie shares her approach:
- Recorded casual conversations with her husband, friends, and legal experts—blending expert commentary with real-time reactions
- Example: The crime scene drive in episode two was a spontaneous, recorded girls’ trip
“None of it was planned, but it all just kind of made it in ... this is the story I would want to listen to.” [50:41]
Trust, Empathy, and Female Experience
[51:28] Amy and Stephanie discuss vulnerability in storytelling:
- Show’s behind-the-scenes audio invites listener trust and authenticity
- Stephanie’s willingness to “not back down” in legal and investigative confrontations, especially after witnessing her husband’s tenacity
“I don’t want to walk away and think, what if I would have asked that question? I just want to ask it.” [53:10]
Real-Time Revelation & A Case That’s Still Unfolding
[54:15] Stephanie teases the final episodes:
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Release delayed because the investigation is ongoing—waiting for court dates and new information
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Reveals an unexpected message on X (Twitter) from a source who changed the entire direction of the final episodes
“What you’ll hear in episodes 7 through 10 is a completely different story than what I thought the story was gonna be.” [55:48]
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On the uncovering of buried facts:
"Truth isn’t a thing that wants to stay buried." —Amy Devers [57:32]
Sound, Collaboration, and What’s Next
[59:53] Stephanie on Creative Partnerships:
- Everything They Missed is a one-woman operation with production/sound support from Tenderfoot (true crime network)
- Original music by Brazen Cyrus (Miley Cyrus’s younger brother) crafted to mirror the mood and complexity of the story
“I wanted the show to be original and feel like that.” [61:10]
[57:57] Future ambitions:
- Hopes to pursue additional cases and bring stories to screen
- Committed to remaining true to her voice and authentic approach; “the people in this story deserve to be seen ... in that light.” [58:31]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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Stephanie:
“Who knew that I would be hunting killers at my age at this point in my life?” [05:35]
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Amy:
“It’s not about placing blame ... as much as ... bringing light to the things that slip through the cracks and cause really big issues.” [07:39]
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Stephanie:
“I just kept following my gut instinct ... And I just started recording everything. Every time that I would talk to anybody, I would just start recording ... I kind of call this show ‘Hiding the Vegetables in the Brownies.’” [10:00]
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Stephanie:
“I didn’t know what I was doing, but I knew that this had to make it into the story.” [10:55]
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Amy (re the real-time story evolution):
“If somebody feels they can come forward with information ... that’s been buried for a long time, that’s pretty amazing.” [56:01]
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Stephanie (on beginner’s luck):
“I think beginner’s luck is a real phenomenon, and I think it’s the Universe saying, ‘Keep going.’ Like, I know you don’t know what you’re doing, but here’s some.” [45:14]
Timestamps for Major Segments
- Stephanie’s Introduction & Show Genesis: [04:11] – [07:30]
- Philosophy on True Crime & Storytelling Approach: [06:51] – [09:10]
- Investigative Methods & Compassionate Perspective: [09:10] – [12:18]
- Childhood and Family Influences: [13:25] – [18:05]
- Professional Evolution: Law, VC, Sales, Startups: [22:42] – [27:07]
- Murdoch Case & Family Upheaval: [33:22] – [43:05]
- Learning from Media, Netflix Production: [42:47] – [44:21]
- Process of Building the Podcast, Authenticity: [47:57] – [51:28]
- Facing Institutions & Not Backing Down: [53:10] – [54:15]
- Real-Time Investigation & Upcoming Episodes Tease: [54:15] – [57:32]
- Collaboration, Sound & Future Plans: [59:53] – [63:00]
Conclusion
This episode delivers a riveting look not only at the making of Everything They Missed, but at the power of creative agency to challenge entrenched narratives and seek truth for voiceless victims. Stephanie’s fusion of relentless curiosity, lived experience, and vulnerable storytelling signals a new breed of true crime media—one as concerned with justice and humanity as with unraveling mysteries.
For more: Listen to Everything They Missed wherever you get podcasts, and stay tuned for December’s explosive final episodes.
