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Evolving with Gratitude
Hosted by Lainie Rowell · EN
Evolving with Gratitude examines the science and stories that optimize happiness, relationships, and performance in work and life. Host Lainie Rowell sits down with leading thinkers, researchers, authors, and practitioners to explore evidence-based insights on gratitude, well-being, resilience, leadership, and human connection. Each episode offers practical ideas we can apply immediately to thrive personally and professionally.
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#155 - Jim Collins, Part 2: What to Make of a Life
4d ago00:34:45Tap to summarizeWhat do we do when life gets foggy?In part two of this conversation with Jim Collins, we pick up right where we left off and explore the bug book, simplex stepping, luck versus return on luck, and why not all time in life is equal.We also talk about retirement as a cliff, the power of Who Luck, and what Jim would add to Good to Great after writing What to Make of a Life.If you haven’t listened to part one, I recommend starting there, but you are also welcome to jump in right here.As Jim says, What to Make of a Life is “not a self-help book. It’s a self-knowledge book.”Thrive Global Article: Jim Collins on What to Make of a LifeAbout Our Guest:Jim Collins has published multiple international bestsellers that have sold in total more than eleven million copies worldwide, including the perennial favorite Good to Great. His writings and teachings are based on extensive research projects designed to uncover timeless principles of human endeavor and have had a lasting impact across all sectors of society. All of Jim’s books share a common thread: the study of people and how they navigate the big questions of leadership and life. You can learn more at www.jimcollins.com. About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at linktr.ee/lainierowell.Website - LainieRowell.comInstagram - @LainieRowellLinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - @LainieRowell Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available here! And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount📚➡️ bit.ly/bgbulkdiscountJust fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP!
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#154 - Jim Collins, Part 1: What to Make of a Life
3w ago00:37:29Tap to summarizeWhat if you could decode what truly makes you tick?In part one of this two-part conversation, I’m honored to talk with Jim Collins, author of multiple international bestsellers, including Good to Great and What to Make of a Life. Jim rarely does interviews, which makes this conversation especially meaningful.We explore encodings, the deepest intrinsic capacities that shape who we are, what it means to get in frame, and why even doing what we love comes with a cost.As Jim says, What to Make of a Life is “not a self-help book. It’s a self-knowledge book.”Thrive Global Article: Jim Collins on What to Make of a LifeAbout Our Guest:Jim Collins has published multiple international bestsellers that have sold in total more than eleven million copies worldwide, including the perennial favorite Good to Great. His writings and teachings are based on extensive research projects designed to uncover timeless principles of human endeavor and have had a lasting impact across all sectors of society. All of Jim’s books share a common thread: the study of people and how they navigate the big questions of leadership and life. You can learn more at www.jimcollins.com. About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at linktr.ee/lainierowell.Website - LainieRowell.comInstagram - @LainieRowellLinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - @LainieRowell Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available here! And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount📚➡️ bit.ly/bgbulkdiscountJust fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP!
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#153 - Dr. Paul Conti on What's Going Right
May 500:49:24Tap to summarizeWhat if mental health could be strengthened the same way we strengthen physical health, with understanding, structure, and small steps that help us move forward?In this episode, psychiatrist and author Dr. Paul Conti shares a hopeful and practical way to think about mental health through his new book, What’s Going Right: A Powerful New Method for Optimizing Your Mental Health.We talk about the generative drive, why agency and gratitude belong together, and how noticing what is going right can help us build a truer, healthier story of ourselves.Thrive Global Article: Dr. Conti on What’s Going RightAbout Our Guest:Paul Conti, MD is a celebrity-endorsed psychiatrist, renowned author, and President of Pacific Premier Group PC. He has been featured on top podcasts with industry-leading hosts such as Peter Attia, Tim Ferriss, Andrew Huberman, Mel Robbins, Lex Fridman, Whitney Cummings, Tom Bilyeu, Rich Roll, Danica Patrick, and others.DrPaulConti.comAbout Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at linktr.ee/lainierowell.Website - LainieRowell.comInstagram - @LainieRowellLinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - @LainieRowell Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available here! And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount📚➡️ bit.ly/bgbulkdiscountJust fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP!
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#152 - Tom Rath on Turning Purpose into Your Daily Superpower
Apr 2100:40:01Tap to summarizeWhat if purpose isn’t something we find, but something we build? In this episode, bestselling author and researcher Tom Rath breaks down purpose in a way that feels practical, not pressuring. We talk about why “purpose” can feel loaded, how service and relationships create meaning, and simple ways to notice the impact we are already having, especially in hard seasons.Thrive Global Article: Tom Rath on Turning Purpose Into Your Daily SuperpowerExplore his books, tools, and work at TomRath.org and follow Tom on X.About Our Guest:Tom is an author and researcher who studies how careers impact health and wellbeing. He has written 12 books that have sold more than 10 million copies and made hundreds of appearances on global bestseller lists.Tom's first book, How Full Is Your Bucket?, was an instant #1 New York Times bestseller. His book StrengthFinder 2.0 was listed as Amazon's top-selling non-fiction book of all time. Tom's other bestsellers include Strengths Based Leadership, Wellbeing, Eat Move Sleep, and Are You Fully Charged?Tom is currently co-founder and CEO of CareerSight. He previously led Gallup's workplaces business and served as a Senior Scientist. Tom was also a Vice-Chair of the VHL cancer research organization. He is a graduate of the University of Michigan and the University of Pennsylvania, where he has also been a guest lecturer.About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at linktr.ee/lainierowell.Website - LainieRowell.comInstagram - @LainieRowellLinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - @LainieRowell Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available here! And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount📚➡️ bit.ly/bgbulkdiscountJust fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP!
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#151 - David Yeager on the Mentor Mindset
Mar 3100:45:25Tap to summarizeWhat if the way we lead young people is the very thing holding them back?In this episode, Dr. David Yeager, psychologist at UT Austin and author of 10 to 25: The Science of Motivating Young People, shares the “mentor mindset,” a practical approach built on high standards and high support. You will hear why wise feedback works, how the stories we tell ourselves shape motivation, and what real support looks like when it removes barriers without taking over. Thrive Global Article: David Yeager on the Mentor MindsetAbout Our Guest:David Yeager, PhD, is a professor of psychology at the University of Texas at Austin and the cofounder of the Texas Behavioral Science and Policy Institute. He is best known for his research conducted with Carol Dweck, Angela Duckworth, and Greg Walton on short but powerful interventions that influence adolescent behaviors such as motivation, engagement, healthy eating, bullying, stress, mental health, and more. He has consulted for Google, Microsoft, Disney, and the World Bank, as well as for the White House and the governments in California, Texas, and Norway. His research has been featured in The New York Times Magazine, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Scientific American, CNN, Fox News, The Guardian, The Atlantic, and more. Prior to his career as a scientist, he was a middle school teacher and a basketball coach. He earned his PhD and MA at Stanford University and his BA and MEd at the University of Notre Dame. He lives in Austin, Texas, with his wife and their four children.About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at linktr.ee/lainierowell.Website - LainieRowell.comInstagram - @LainieRowellLinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - @LainieRowell Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available here! And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount📚➡️ bit.ly/bgbulkdiscountJust fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP!
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#150 - George Couros on Forward, Together
Mar 1000:37:42Tap to summarizeWhat if the way we handle disagreement is one of the most important lessons we will ever absorb?In episode 150, George Couros returns for a fun, honest, and deeply practical conversation about what it really takes to move forward together in contentious times. George shares the story behind his new book, Forward, Together, and why the work of building community starts with what we model, not what we say.You will hear about:How to disagree without damaging trustA simple shift that helps people feel seen, valued, and willing to stay in the workWhy progress is not about avoiding conflict, but learning how to navigate it wellIf you are craving a better way to lead, teach, parent, or collaborate, this one will give you both hope and next steps.About Our Guest:George Couros is a worldwide leader in the area of innovative teaching, learning, and leading, and has a focus on innovation as a human endeavor. Most importantly, he is a proud father and husband.His belief that meaningful change happens when you first connect to people’s hearts, is modeled in his writing and speaking. In his 20-plus years in the field of education, he has worked at all levels of school, from K-12 as a teacher, technology facilitator, and school and district administrator, and is currently an Adjunct Instructor with the Graduate School of Education at the University of Pennsylvania.George is also the author of the books, The Innovator’s Mindset, Innovate Inside the Box, Because of a Teacher, Because of a Teacher 2, and his latest release, What Makes a Great Principal.Connect with and learn from George Couros:Website: georgecouros.ca X/Twitter: @gcouros Instagram: @gcourosAbout Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at linktr.ee/lainierowell.Website - LainieRowell.comInstagram - @LainieRowellLinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - @LainieRowell Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available here! And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount📚➡️ bit.ly/bgbulkdiscountJust fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP!
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#149 - Morgan Housel on the Art of Spending Money
Feb 2400:37:27Tap to summarizeWhat if the way you spend money says less about your finances and more about what you actually value? NYT Bestselling author Morgan Housel reveals why smart spending is an art, not a science, and how the choices we make with money are often driven more by status than we'd like to admit. We explore the difference between chasing happiness and finding contentment, why saving is really about purchasing independence, and how asking one simple question before every purchase can change everything.Thrive Global Article: Morgan Housel on the Art of Spending MoneyAbout Our Guest:Morgan Housel is the New York Times Bestselling author of The Psychology of Money, The Art of Spending Money, and Same As Ever. His books have sold over 11 million copies and have been translated into more than 60 languages. He is a two-time winner of the Best in Business Award from the Society of American Business Editors and Writers, and winner of the New York Times Sidney Award. MarketWatch named him one of the 50 most influential people in markets. He's a partner at The Collaborative Fund and serves on the board of directors at Markel. PodcastTwitterAbout Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at linktr.ee/lainierowell.Website - LainieRowell.comInstagram - @LainieRowellLinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - @LainieRowell Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available here! And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount📚➡️ bit.ly/bgbulkdiscountJust fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP!
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#148 - Sonja Lyubomirsky on How to Feel Loved
Feb 1000:38:27Tap to summarizeWhat does it really mean to feel loved?In this conversation with Sonja Lyubomirsky, we explore why being loved isn’t the same as feeling loved, how changing the conversation can shift a relationship, and why loneliness is a moment, not an identity.This one will change how you think about connection.Thrive Global Article: Sonja Lyubomirsky on How to Feel LovedAbout Our Guest:Sonja Lyubomirsky is Distinguished Professor of Psychology at the University of California, Riverside and author of the best-selling The How of Happiness and The Myths of Happiness (published in 39 countries). Lyubomirsky and her research on the science of happiness have been the recipients of many grants and honors, including Fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), an Honorary Doctorate from the University of Basel, the Diener Award for Outstanding Midcareer Contributions in Personality Psychology, the Christopher Peterson Gold Medal, and a Positive Psychology Prize. She lives in Santa Monica, California, with her family.About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at linktr.ee/lainierowell.Website - LainieRowell.comInstagram - @LainieRowellLinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - @LainieRowell Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available here! And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount📚➡️ bit.ly/bgbulkdiscountJust fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP!
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#147 - Jennifer Breheny Wallace on Mattering
Jan 2700:38:27Tap to summarizeWhat does it really take to thrive, not just achieve?In this conversation, award-winning journalist and author Jennifer Breheny Wallace shares why mattering is a fundamental human need and how feeling valued for who we are, not just what we do, supports sustainable achievement, well-being, and connection.We talk about the difference between belonging and mattering, the SAID framework, and small, meaningful ways to help ourselves and others feel seen and valued.Thrive Global Article: Jennifer Breheny Wallace on MatteringMentioned on the show: The Surprising Way Sliding Door Moments Can Lead to Profound Gratitude (Counterfactual Thinking) About Our Guest:Jennifer Breheny Wallace is an award-winning journalist and bestselling author who explores the power of mattering in everyday life. Through research and storytelling, Wallace examines the hidden forces shaping modern life, from the crisis of meaning in achievement culture to the essential role of mattering in personal, workplace, and societal health. Her first book, Never Enough: When Achievement Culture Becomes Toxic — And What We Can Do About It, was a New York Times Bestseller, an Amazon Best Book of the Year, and a Next Big Idea selection. Her latest book Mattering: The Secret to a Life of Deep Connection and Purpose, is out now. Wallace is a maternal mental health advocate at Calm, the mental health app, a consultant at Netflix, and a BCG BrightHouse Luminary. She has also partnered with The LEGO Group on its global "Play Unstoppable" campaign, aimed at addressing perfectionism and fostering confidence through play. Wallace started her journalism career at CBS's “60 Minutes” and was part of the team that won the Robert F. Kennedy Awards for Excellence in Journalism. She is a contributor to The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post and frequently appears on national television programs. About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at linktr.ee/lainierowell.Website - LainieRowell.comInstagram - @LainieRowellLinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - @LainieRowell Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available here! And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount📚➡️ bit.ly/bgbulkdiscountJust fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP!
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#146 - Maya Shankar on The Other Side of Change
Jan 1300:43:11Tap to summarizeWhat if change isn’t something to fear but something that can reveal who we really are? Cognitive scientist and podcast host Dr. Maya Shankar shares how to navigate uncertainty, redefine identity, and uncover growth on the other side of change. We talk about finding purpose when life takes an unexpected turn, why “possible selves” matter, and the surprising role distraction and gratitude play in resilience.Maya's Book:The Other Side of Change: Who We Become When Life Makes Other PlansThrive Global Article:Maya Shankar on The Other Side of ChangeAbout Our Guest:Maya Shankar is a cognitive scientist and the creator, executive producer, and host of the podcast, A Slight Change of Plans, which Apple awarded as the Best Show of the Year 2021 and which received an Ambie award from the Podcast Academy in 2022. Maya was a Senior Advisor in the Obama White House, where she founded and served as Chair of the White House Behavioral Science Team. She also served as the first Behavioral Science Advisor to the United Nations under Ban Ki-moon, and as a core member of Pete Buttigieg’s debate preparation team during his 2020 presidential run.Maya has a postdoctoral fellowship in cognitive neuroscience from Stanford, a Ph.D. in cognitive psychology from Oxford on a Rhodes Scholarship, and a B.A. from Yale. She's been profiled by The New Yorker and been the featured guest on NPR's All Things Considered, Freakonomics, and Hidden Brain. She's a graduate of the Juilliard School of Music's pre-college program, where she was a private violin student of Itzhak Perlman.About Lainie:Lainie Rowell is a bestselling author, award-winning educator, and TEDx speaker. She is dedicated to human flourishing, focusing on community building, emotional intelligence, and honoring what makes each of us unique and dynamic through learner-driven design. She earned her degree in psychology and went on to earn both a post-graduate credential and a master's degree in education. An international keynote speaker, Lainie has presented in 41 states as well as in dozens of countries across 4 continents. As a consultant, Lainie’s client list ranges from Fortune 100 companies like Apple and Google to school districts and independent schools. Learn more at linktr.ee/lainierowell.Website - LainieRowell.comInstagram - @LainieRowellLinkedIn - @LainieRowellX/Twitter - @LainieRowell Evolving with Gratitude, the book is available here! And now, Bold Gratitude: The Journal Designed for You and by You is available too!Both Evolving with Gratitude & Bold Gratitude have generous bulk pricing for purchasing 10+ copies delivered to the same location.🙌📚➡️ bit.ly/ewgbulkdiscount📚➡️ bit.ly/bgbulkdiscountJust fill out the forms linked above and someone will get back to you ASAP!
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