Excellent Executive Coaching: EEC 398 - Leading at Scale: Evolving Leadership for Hyper-growth, with Will Linssen
Host: Dr. Katrina Burrus, PhD, MCC
Guest: Will Linssen, Triple Win Leadership Coaching
Release Date: September 9, 2025
Episode Overview
This episode explores the evolving requirements of leadership in hyper-growth and international organizations. Dr. Katrina Burrus welcomes Will Linssen, a global executive coach with decades of experience, to discuss proven approaches for measurable leadership development, cross-cultural challenges, and co-creative coaching practices that generate organizational results at scale. The conversation is rich with real-world anecdotes, empirical insights, and actionable advice for executives, HR professionals, and leadership coaches facing high-stakes growth and complexity.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Universal Leadership Challenges Across Cultures
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Common Leadership Issues
Will Linssen shares results from Triple Win’s research with over 100,000 leaders, highlighting the five most persistent leadership challenges globally:- Thinking strategically
- Empowerment and delegation
- Stakeholder management
- Executive presence
- Employee engagement
[01:13] Will Linssen:
“These always come out on top, irrespective of culture.”
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Consistency of Core Values, Variance in Behaviors
While values like respect, honesty, and trust are global, behaviors expressing these values are culturally specific. [02:08] Will Linssen:
“It’s on the behavioral level where all these differences really exist.”
2. Measuring Coaching Impact & ROI
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The “Aha” Moment for Results-Driven Coaching
Will recounts an early coaching engagement that transformed his approach by connecting outcomes to organizational metrics. [03:23] Will Linssen:
“You really need to make sure that you connect the numbers with the coaching because then everybody is on board.” -
Measurement Techniques
Triple Win uses a multi-tiered system:- Baseline assessment (360 feedback) at the start
- Quarterly “pulse” surveys of the leader, team, and manager
- Scoring on satisfaction and verbatim commentary
- In some cases, direct linkage to P&L metrics
[05:24] Will Linssen:
“We measure on the leader level, on the team level, and on the result level.”
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Feedforward vs. Feedback
They prioritize monthly “feedforward” (suggestions for future behavior), making the process less judgmental and more actionable. [08:48] Will Linssen:
“Feedforward is a lot less judgmental because we're asking about a suggestion that the leader can do in the next 30 days.”
3. Leadership as Co-Creation
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Collaborative Accountability
Will stresses the importance of co-creating change between leaders and teams for sustainable improvement. [07:06] Will Linssen:
“Leadership is actually not so much about just them, it’s also about me because I’m being led. Leadership is like a two-way street. It's like a dance together.” -
Flywheel/Cascading Effect
Effective leadership change creates organizational momentum: leader improves → team improves → results improve. [07:06] Will Linssen:
“We have a 95% success rate... because these things, they hook into each other. It's like a chain.”
4. What Defines a Good Leader?
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Symphony Conductor Analogy
Will likens a great leader to an orchestra conductor, highlighting the importance of coordination without overt dominance. [13:03] Will Linssen:
“The leader is the only one who doesn’t make any noise.” -
Mindset: ‘We’ vs. ‘Me’
Strong leaders focus on collective success, not personal ego. [13:29] Will Linssen:
“Leaders who always think in terms of ‘we’ and their coworkers... these are the great leaders.” -
Managing Ego
High-performing leaders have strong egos but know when to step back. [15:27] Will Linssen:
“It’s fine, have your ego, but make sure that your ego doesn’t get in the way. So keep it at the background.”
5. Practical Habits of Effective Leaders
- Willingness to Change
The best leaders exhibit three essential traits:- “I go” – Owning their change
- “We go” – Involving others
- “Let’s go” – Executing together
[17:49] Will Linssen:
“I go, we go, let’s go.”
6. Key Questions for Leaders
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Self-Reflection Question:
The most powerful question a leader can ask their direct reports: [18:56] Will Linssen:
“‘What can I do to change to be a better leader for you?’...They will be amazed at the valuable impact.” -
Customized Leadership
Dr. Burrus adds that leaders must recognize the need for agility: “Leadership is a customized business, right?” [20:02]
7. Organizational Application of Coaching Principles
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Borrowing change management and co-creation philosophies from other disciplines (project management, supply chain, etc.) increases coaching acceptance and impact.
[10:28] Will Linssen:
“We borrow all these accepted principles and ways of working... and we engineer that into the coaching process.”
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On Cultural Consistency:
“The values that people have…are the same. People want to be respected… honesty, trust… But how people act it out, that's how huge differences exist.”
— Will Linssen [02:08] -
On Measurable Impact:
“They attribute that all to the work they have been doing during the time of the coaching…You really need to make sure that you connect the numbers with the coaching.”
— Will Linssen [04:10 & 03:23] -
On Feedforward:
“Feedforward is a lot less judgmental because we're asking about a suggestion that the leader can do in the next 30 days.”
— Will Linssen [08:48] -
On Ego in Leadership:
“It’s fine, have your ego, but make sure that your ego doesn’t get in the way…here also you need to understand when the lion is helpful and when the pussycat is helpful.”
— Will Linssen [15:27] -
On the Key Question for Managers:
“‘What can I do to change to be a better leader for you?’”
— Will Linssen [18:56]
Timestamps for Important Segments
- 00:04 – Introduction & episode purpose
- 01:13 – Top leadership challenges globally
- 02:08 – How culture shapes leadership behaviors
- 03:23 – Importance of measuring coaching impact
- 05:24 – Practical measurement and feedback processes
- 08:48 – Monthly feedforward vs. quarterly feedback
- 11:37 – Defining good leadership; the symphony metaphor
- 13:29 – Ego and recognition in leadership
- 15:27 – Managing ego and self-awareness
- 17:49 – The three habits of effective leaders: I go, we go, let’s go
- 18:56 – The one essential question every leader should ask
- 20:02 – Customizing leadership approaches
Resources & Contact
- Book: “Triple Win Leadership Coaching” (available on Amazon)
- Website: globalcoachgroup.com
- Email: coach@globalcoachgroup.com
Summary prepared for listeners of the Excellent Executive Coaching podcast episode EEC 398.
