B (5:36)

Yeah. I recently did an interview with Daniel and Derek, who are the grandsons of a whistleblower, Daniel Morris Salter. And, and he was involved in UFO crash retrieval operations. He worked with, worked with the National Reconnaissance Office. And he said that Freemasons are very much involved in running extraterrestrial related projects. And he says that the way it's organized is that the Freemason hierarchy, like up until the 33, 33rd degree, it's all polynomials, people do good things. And as far as they know, the Freemasons are a positive benevolent organization. But he says at the 33rd degree level a test is done and they bring out the Bible, the Holy Bible and they're told, we want you to spit on this or desecrate this, this Bible. And, and if you as a Freemason going for the 33rd degree, if you say no, I'm not going to do that, they'll say that's the right answer. Congratulations, you've now a 33rd degree Freemason. And so they thinking that they've reached the apex of Freemasonry, if you say okay and you spit on the Bible, you desecrate it in some way, they say that you've made the right answer. Now you can go on to the higher levels. And it's up to Those higher levels 34 35, 36, where it's all about meetings with extraterrestrials, finding ancient technologies, suppressing all of the truths about the technologies, the extraterrestrials and the agreements that the Freemasons are involved in the these secret agreements. So it all happens at the above 33 degree level. So what do you think about that?

A (7:19)

I think it makes sense to me that because there is compartmentalization within the Freemasons, as I understand it from my experience in Egypt, in the mission where I was working in Karnak, there were different heights, different levels of Freemasonry. You had executive director and then you had a scientific director was a higher level. And that was then when I was above him. And I remember that the executive director didn't have access to what was going on in the higher levels. And I was a witness to an event where the executive director was infuriated because he was really tired. And he said to me, I am tired of these Freemasons fighting to own Karnak. So that told me a lot, a lot. And I had to face them as well, from different terms.

B (8:17)

Right. And in the rival cinema books, there's a high level Italian Freemason who comes over and pretty much kind of like controls and manipulates everything there. So in the radical cinema books, they describe a kind of frequency shield surrounding the anomaly. So you know what happened in that case involving the anomaly and what was it that you detected with Harina Pataki?

A (8:50)

Yes, I was familiar with these frequency shields, having contact with extraterrestrials and going physically to places where there would be these protections. What we found there when we arrived on the site were a group of people and Kohena Pataki and myself were in two different places of the site, not firstly communicating, and we both heard the same thing. Firstly, the very high pitch frequency that was like statics. It was coming from the ground, but it was like above, a bit above the surface, and really very high and constant. And under this there was another sound, was different, more louder. And it was a pulsation, like a heartbeat. You could sense it was frequency waves. It was not organic like a creature, but it was pulsating. And we both heard this. So we understood exactly what it was. Not firstly, not at first the pulsating sound, but the frequency shields, we knew it's a frequency shield and we can feel it. And Corinne of Intaki, by her, we know that by her DNA and her consciousness, who she is, she has a great connection with the side. Well, that goes into another department. But she was Abducted when she was a child in Romania by the military and brought to an underground facility, put in a chair where she used, they used her to activate the chair technology and to open portals. And her DNA is what was in the, in the picture. So she totally, totally connected with it. And I, I said to her, why wouldn't we do a remote viewing while we are here, but not a classical scientific remote viewing with the protocol of, you know, blind protocol, as we know, not that kind of remote viewing, conscious remote viewing, which we know the target. And with consciousness projection, I mean, we would stay in our bodies but extend, expand our consciousness into the. The target, which was. And other things. So we did that with real hand and Michael filmed it. We didn't know what we were going to see. We had a little idea with the Red Cinema books and I was curious to see if we could see the same thing. So we managed to pass through this frequency shield. What is this frequency shield? Right. It is a protection to stop people who, to intrude. People who are not of a high frequency of consciousness, meaning people who want to destroy the place or with bad intention or steal the technology. But also you need to have the right DNA to pass through. So if you don't have the right DNA and the right frequency of consciousness, you are killed. You are killed. So we didn't go there with our physical bodies, but we are breathe, our consciousness. And it was enough to pass through for two reasons. Korena Pataki has a link to this place and the people. I had the confirmation that the people who lived there, I have lived among them. So I had the right consciousness frequency as well. Kind of talk about that later. More details, I suppose. When we passed through, we saw a dome, the inside of a dome. It wasn't a round, really round room, it was nearly round. And there was a piece a bit truncated, nearly a full circle. Not really, not exactly. And there were openings, square openings all around in the rooms. There was a kind of a twilight we could see, but not in full daylight. When we approached the center of the room, there were markings on the floor with lines that would lead to the rooms. And it was like, you know, that it was transparent or glass, maybe not larger than this. And underneath there was light that lit up and it activated light in the rooms. And all of that was coming from the center of the room. There was a kind of a small dome and a kind of a half of a bubble of a sphere. Maybe it was half in the ground, but we could see the top of it and it was Like a blue plasma that suddenly activated, woke up. And when this woke up, the old lights came in. And this happened when Corina's consciousness, or light, not her light body, but her conscious body, consciousness body, I would consider her soul, approached it. And I could see her in transparent, like a transparent human body. And I looked towards her, she approached and everything lit up. And suddenly we heard the pulse. And I. I said to her, oh, the pulse, it's coming from this thing in the middle. It's alive. And she said, yes, it's alive. And then it hit me. Does a plasmic core consciousness. It's exactly like in the Arks. That's the engine, that's the core central consciousness that animates the technology, activates it, and if you remove it, nothing works anymore. Somehow contained crystal, for instance, in some arcs. I think JP did describe that. So this plasmic consciousness is alive. It's a plasmid being that's been there from. In Memorial Times. We went to a room where there was a high table with a holographic map of the galaxy. And we could zoom in with planets and star systems. Everything was linked with lines, glowing lines like holograms. And if you zoom in on planets, you can see life forms, like little icons, 3D icons, transparent, of creatures, one for each species. And it was amazing. And you could move them from a world to another and see on that world, it transformed a little bit into something else. It was really incredible. Incredible. And then I had a revelation at that moment. I said, corinne, I know this technology. I used it. I used it. I used it when I lived among the Anakin or Anunnaki, as people know that I used to do work in genetic work, experiment engineering. And I used the same technology. I remember that I actually had memories before we went to the bossage, but that confirmed it. So I said to her, yeah, it's an arena technology. It was an unlikely genetic laboratory, I was sure. And I had a confirmation when we saw the chair. So we went to another room and she was thrown to it, and there was the chair, and probably the chair where she was taken when she was a child. I recognized the technology straight away, because this chair, I've seen it in unlucky shuttles as virus chair. So it's a chair that allows the person to interface with the technology, whatever it is, a ship, a laboratory, for instance, or anything. So she sat in it. And this chair in particular, you have patches on the back that interface patches of light that interface with your spine. And when you hit the head, there's another behind the head and you have a circlet that two blades of gold and metal, black copper, I don't know what it is. That lock here, that come from behind and lock here back. And when it locks, you interface with the technology. And she has incredible experience. She saw portal opening and she saw timelines, like threads of light, and she could move them. It was incredible technology, you know. And the core consciousness was responding and this pulse was incredible. And then we came back into our bodies at the surface. We disconnected, but we still could hear this pulsation. And I actually recorded it with my Android phone.

B (19:07)

So let's play that pulse now for people that are watching us, because in the earlier interview we did, and actually where people got to see you and Karina do that psychic projection into the laboratory, we didn't talk about the pulse and we didn't have the. We didn't play the recording. So now we can play that recording. So people could hear the recording. And there was a pulse. There was that kind of pulsing like a heart be. And it's very similar to that incident that occurred recently in outer space involving the Starliner spacecraft that was docked by the International Space Station. And the astronauts on the iss, they said there's a sound coming from the starliner craft and there was a pulse. Now let's play that pulse for peak mission. So now you could see, you could hear that. It's very similar. It's like a heartbeat. So you mentioned JP and he went into a space arc and engaged with with the consciousness of the Ark and he also heard that same pulsing sound from the starliner craft. So this is pretty standard with these organic or plasmic consciousness and that they have that pulse. And also if you just elaborate on that frequency shield, was that frequency shield kind of like some kind of protective technology or was that in fact the organic or the plasmic consciousness?

A (21:16)

But this plasmic consciousness have a purse because they are entangled in something to be alive, for instance, they are souls. They are like our souls, but they are at a different level and they are different nature, different shape. So they. For a soul to incarnate or embed itself into anything, a biological body or a spaceship or any kind of device, they need a pulse. Entangling into a human body is the heartbeat that creates an electromagnetic pulse. And the human soul will be able to enter the chest and lock with the heartbeat. When the heart stops, the soul goes happens through the heart center. It's the same with these plasmic consciousness. They are Entangled in what? Many of them are entangled in plasma. That's why we call them plasmic consciousnesses. So first you can have this pulse. Plasma is a polarized gas called polarized ethereum. So you have a kind of electrical current in it that can create this pulse. But this pulse, plasmic pulse, is very audible, of course. But what's audible with this plasmic consciousness is when they embed the technology. When they embed technology, you need a pulse from the technology, and this is what you hear. That means the technology is inhabited by a soul. A soul. That's what you hear. Under the pulse is the electromagnetic field generated by the technology. Actually, that is animated by a soul, a heartbeat, you know, so it's like a multiplied or enhanced sound of the life, the pulse of the life that is in it. So that's what you hear. So the frequency shield, we can create them by technology. But when there is a plasmic consciousness in the place, that changes everything, it's probably the plasmic consciousness that creates this shield around her to protect herself and the technology. And when a plasmic consciousness is within a spaceship, it does say you have this field around it, that only the people with the right DNA can enter the ship. If they have guests, they'll deactivate a door, you know, deactivate a passage. But it's reacting with her DNA frequency, so she can decide who can come in. You know, she want people with good intention that are not going to harm her or steal technology, you know, so she regulates her frequency shield as such.

B (24:37)

So this is a very important point, because the plasma consciousness that activates that location, that hall of Records or a space art, is very intelligent, and it can decide who can enter and who can't. Now, in the original telling of the discovery of that anomaly and of the hall of Records, Caesar Brad had the right DNA to be able to access it, and he was accompanied by some military personnel and of course, a Freemason. But what you discovered was that this was. This was kind of all shut down. So was the butch edge. This hall of Records shut down because the kind of Freemasons made a decision that they didn't want this to come out, and so they just decided to shut down. Was it because they didn't have the right DNA and consciousness to activate it?

A (25:45)

What I think happened is that they couldn't get the technology to work. So what the Freemasons do when they are confronted to these situations, they shut down the places to avoid other organizations to take over. So they shut down, they seal the places and they leave it to the future. When they come back with a solution. It doesn't go repeatedly, you know, now the excavation sites, the excavations are stopped, frozen by the Freemasons. And that was confirmed by archaeologists. And they even planted orchards of trees on locations that are very particularly sensitive, where we know there is something archaeologically speaking. So that's what they do. They freeze. And they said regarding we leave it to the future generation. That is typical. That's what they do. That's what they do.

B (26:51)

Well, one other thing that really kind of intrigued me about the discovery of this or what you found inside of but edge mountains that it was actually rather than just being a hall of records, it was actually like an Ancient laboratory created by the Amunaki and it's protected by the organic consciousness. So that's intriguing. So suggests that there are many other places where you have these Ancient laboratories. And it immediately made me think of the Stargate SG1 series where you had these kind of laboratories of the Ancient. The Ancients, they call them the laboratories that the Ancients build that were protected by these frequency shields and there was intelligence there and all of that. So to me it's like, well, is that that kind of soft disclosure that that's what they've discovered around the planet?

A (27:48)

I think Stargate SG1 and Stargate Atlantis are disclosure series, self disclosure series. You know that what made me smile with Stargate Atlantis series is that not only the chair they found on this planet is the replica of the pilot's chair I found in the spaceships where I'm invited physically when I have contacts, but also it's located in the series in the Pegasus Galaxy. A world called Atlantis in the Pegasus Galaxy, if I remember well, something like that. And the Athenians who are one of the founders of Atlantis on Earth come from a galaxy, NGC 7331 which is visible through the Pegasus Galaxy. Constellation, sorry, constellation. So I thought if they did that the rest there are many other golden nuggets in that to find.

B (28:56)

Now we identified or you identified that this was an Anunnaki laboratory, Ancient laboratory and you're connected with the Anunnaki. So I want to kind of shift a little bit to something about the Anunnaki and IYA or Enki in particular, that's kind of puzzled me for some time. And uniformly across the surviving Sumerian texts they describe Enki as generally a very positive being that was the protector and creator of humanity. And Lil was this kind of rather ruthless Being that was responsible for the flood and did great evil now. But there was always a story that puzzled me because it seemed to be something that on the surface appeared to be a deviation. And Matthew Lacroix, the author of the Stage of Time, I think did a really good job in describing how the Sumerian texts do describe Enki in positive terms. But when it comes to the story of Adapa, Enki is described in more of a kind of enigmatic and trickster role. And the story of Adapa is one way.

A (30:13)

This.

B (30:14)

The first king had the. Was the first. The first human king had genetics that were very well advanced. And that he did something that led to Anu being enraged. And so Anu summoned him. So do you want to maybe fill in on what you know of that incident involving Adapa, Anu and the role Enki played in all of that? Because I think it's very helpful in understanding, you know, who exactly Enki is.

A (30:48)

Okay, well, transiting from the subject of Bosej and the hall of Records and laboratory that is under the Sphinx, there were many laboratories like this on Earth, but they were not all of the good faction. If you want. There were also laboratories managed by Enlilction. You had two strands of work, genetic work on Earth. You know, Enlil wanted to enslave humanity, degrade their DNA, their abilities, block their abilities. So he had his, because Enki has refused to go further in that project. So Enlil had said, okay, I'm doing it myself. I'll bring my own genes and we do it. So there are many places I know what I and I understand and I firmly know that the whole. The facility under the buset was of the good, the positive function led by Enki, one of the many laboratories, but this one was an important one. And I know this from memories of my past lives and also confirmed by dia, with whom I'm in content. The main laboratory was on board the Nibiru ship and Kiyo IO with Ninosa, for instance. They were working on the ship on the Nibiru. And from this main. This main laboratory depended all the other ones. They were managing all the other ones on Earth, you know, they were reporting to them. So that's how I understand the structure, you know, because what was happening on the Nibir was protected. That's where Alabama was. So moving on to the Abu Dhaba story. The story is that Araba was Simond in front of Anu. That's what we know from the the ancient tables, because he had slaughtered a creature, right? And Anu Offered him a drink of immortality. Drink it or not. Free will. Okay. And in the role in the story, the official story that we have, the real story from the tablets, IYA says no, don't drink this, don't drink this. Okay, now you don't understand. Why would he have said don't drink the drink of immortality. Have the story beyond. Beyond that I know is as such. Yes. Anafa had killed a cigar of a high position because Enlil is. Was still is somewhere in space, half cigar. And his mother was a Sikhar queen, Tyr. And he came in the expedition, the Kashkal expedition to Earth with his group of Sikar, high rank. Okay. And many workers. So that's. So Agatha killed one of these creatures, one of these Sikars. And that wasn't going well with n. Because Anne was tied by his marriage with Quintia, the reptilian cigar queen. And he was obliged to get along with her for political reasons. So the Sikhar obliged Anne to take a decision to kill Adan to make justice. But how it works regarding the laws of the anarchy, there's a free will. So and Anu gave him a chance used. He said, here's a dream of immortality. It's up to you to have it. Knowing that he had told him before and this is something I remembered he had told me at the time he told are going to be someone on a ship where the emperor my father will come on that ship and you must not eat or drink anything. This is very important. He didn't tell him why. So Madhava refused. He said drink of immortality. But Yahuz nice with me. He told me not to drink it. So I won't. I trust him. I won't. So he didn't drink it and he got back to too Earth and things got on continue to go for him, survived. That's the story I have. Good.

B (35:55)

That's very helpful actually because that was a puzzle for many who understanding this kind of struggle between Enki and Enlil, that Enki was the protector and Adapa was a very highly evolved being and certainly must have been a very powerful being to defeat a Sakaar in battle. And you can imagine, I think he was depicted as a great warrior sage at the time. So. Yes. So that really does show that Enki was playing this very positive role and kind of did with it. Sounds like what he did with Adapa was very similar to what he did with Noah or Utnapishtim with the Great Flood.

A (36:45)

IYA didn't warn only Utapishtim of the Flood. But everyone we could want, you know, all the tribal leaders, all the kings with the information try to get information as far as possible because Enlil had frightened the council and had scared everyone and managed to get everyone to agree with him to wipe out humanity. And it's written in the Atheasis that it is ordinal malish. I don't remember which one it is. No, the other one is that Henry had enough of the humans, they were too loud means they started to take their voice and become sovereign and rebel. And he didn't, he didn't want to have that, to have it. So he wanted to reset everything and by the same occasion wipe out EA's genetic bloodline through Adapa and his descendants. So Henny managed to get a reset on Earth by bringing an asteroid asteroid into to crash into the northern ice cap and flood everything and destroy everything. But he had. The deal was. And the seeker do that all the time. They did that in the man system. They did that, that all the time. They say we're going to invade you, but we make a deal with you, we got something in exchange to allow you to escape and then we destroy your world. And they don't respect the notice they go before. That's what happened. That's why not everyone could be saved. Only a few people because we are taken by surprise seek our way. So that's what happened.

B (38:48)

Thank you. That really does help. So I want to now shift to what's been happening more recently. The Artemis Accords, they have become something that has really taken off. And these are bilateral agreements that countries reach with the United States in terms of space exploration, tourism, mining, so forth. And also they have an element in there which encourages the development of a united military cooperation to deal with or protect these safety zones that would be created in space under the Artemis of ploys. So one of the things that really kind of interests me and we just had Chile signed on to become the 47th information to have joined the armed supports. But at the same time you have the BRICS alliance which is growing. And I think people can get very easily puzzled. They can say well how come the BRICS is growing? And everyone is saying well you know, the West European Union, North America and all of that, they're doomed to economic oblivion. But yet the Artemis Accords are taking off. Now, in my opinion, I looked at some of the emissions that that JP has done and he described going to these underground spaceports where he saw international military pilots being trained to fly spacecraft at These US spaceports that had been built or that are controlled by these Nordic extraterrestrials. And so that would be a powerful incentive to people or countries to join the Artemis Accord because, well, you know, the two choices at the moment are joining China and Russia's international Lunar Research Station, which is just a lot of, you know, blah, blah, you'll get this and that, but really nothing, you get nothing. Because China's, you know, their attitude is like, well, we're not going to give you anything meaningful, we just want to find out what you know. But the United States is actually willing to share really advanced tech and training. So how. What's your opinion of the Artemis Accords, their expansion and how they relate to the Jupiter accords from 2021?

A (41:05)

Well, I believe that the Artemis Accords are something that was created by the Earth alliance or the Wild Rights military on Earth by cooperation with the Galactic Federation of Worlds, the ET that are in our stars system and that have made contact since 1954 officially with the Eisenhower administration to create a cooperation program starting with the US Navy. And from that defense program was born Solar Warden. But then it stays like this for a while until things got really heated up with the war that started the star system and humanity started to get on the right path to a progressive future. And suddenly things were possible. So agreements started to be made. And to me the Artemis Accords are not only an ancient project of cooperation between the Galactic Federation of Worms and the white hat Earth in Italy, but they are also a vision for the future. They are the building blocks of what we could call the future. Starfleet mentioning referring Star Trek series which are self disclosure as well as we know the Artemis Accord are growing and growing and growing because it's how it is meant to be. It is becoming the main Starfleet, the main leading force in our star system. And The Jupiter agreements July 14 to 17, 2021 were agreements where a series of meetings on Jupiter on Earth, alien on an alien base in the higher atmosphere of Jupiter between deities, galactife version of worlds and many representative of the Earth alliance, the white hat militaries, high rank officials and interestingly chosen CEOs of certain companies. And these companies were not those working with the deep State. You know, there were different ones and among them when I gave the information, I was criticized for it. But I passed on what I passed on. Elon Musk was there. And when I asked why picking these CEOs they said because they are working for the future of humanity. They are going to work for the Future of humanity. They have because they have already everything ready. They have the financial needs, they have the technology. And they have already started to work at creating technology for the future of humanity. So we can use what is there. So we take what is there, what is ready. We don't have the time to get humans to create new companies with new people. We are taking what's there and operational. That's what they did. And in the Jupiter Agreements what was decided was planning the after war, the after liberation of the star system and the Earth from the deep state dark forces and drawing the. I would say throwing the sense for the new agreements in the star system by creating safety zones of non interference in space by creating commercial laws that means that were meant to avoid and stop corporate war and chaos. Because you know when a body dies, it may be chaos. If you haven't planned anything, it's chaos. Everybody wants a piece of everything and fighting against each other and it really can be bloody messy. So they have planned the Jupiter Agreements to avoid that and plan the future of the star system. And so the US were put in charge. After this series of meetings it was decided who was most able to run practically and objectively this system. And the US were the ones who were in agreement with the Galactic Federation since the 1950s. So that made sense. And they were already involved with them. And under the US command there was other countries. And I remember that China was one of the three countries that were not selected to be in the upper levels. And what I was told China got the hump really badly from that and decided to compete, to turn and compete. It's good to remind, I believe that it's not one country is bad, one is good. In every country you have dark black hats and white hats. So when we say China turn back and try to compete, it's the black hats, Chinese corporate black hats like we have. You have in the state corporate black hats the same. You know, it's not the whole country, it's not on behalf of the people, you know what I mean?

B (47:20)

Yes, I think China definitely is trying to create a rival organization in space. And I don't think it's really succeeding. I mean the International Lunar Research Station I think they got about 13 signatories and they're all smaller states as opposed to Russia. And I wrote a book about China, Rise of the Red Dragon. And the thing that became clear to me was that Chinese do not share technology. What they do is they just kind of absorb other people's or other countries technologies because they're Very suspicious of other countries, especially the United States and its allies, but once recently emerged is that SpaceX under Elon Musk has dominated the, the rocket industry or the space industry globally. Apparently it's just over 90% of all rocket launches. That includes rival aerospace companies in the United States like Boeing, General Dynamics, Northrop Grumman and also the Airbus or the European space program and Russia's Roscosmos. And internationally that SpaceX dominates the space industry with more than 90% of rocket successful rocket launches. And they've pioneered these reusable rockets. So what's going on there? I mean one explanation is that while these legacy aerospace companies know that the future is not rocket industry, so they're just cutting it out of that, they're abandoning that particular failed project and they're leaving it to Musk to kind of dominate. Or is it because of the Jupiter Accords and SpaceX IS, has been chosen to play this kind of critical role as we transition into a Star Trek future?

A (49:14)

Well, you know, I think and I believe for me that this is part of the genius plan. That's also it's interesting because the Galactic Federation of walls give you an example. When they have an enemy, potential enemy, they are not going to fight it straight face to face. They are going to try to polish their back and make peace agreement with them and welcome them to enter the Federation. Then if they accept, they control them and they are tied. They cannot go against the Federation and they're tied. They're in their control. That's a very typical ET mindset. Okay, now the rocket industry we know has been something that has developed since the operation Paperclip and that's something that's been really lying to people saying rocket industry is the only way we can reach out to space. Parallel to that with the solar model, we had anti gravity, we had the TR3Bs that developed after a while, I mean that was all a comedy. But they were there to say we don't have other technologies, that's what we have and we're doing with that. And all the money that you pay for always going through these programs. Not anyways, so where we're going to fight it, fight the rocket industry by bringing the, the disclosing the, the anti gravity technologies that we already have. But these guys were going to fight, wouldn't it be better that these guys own these ones and then these ones alternate and then bring on the anti gravity. Pretend that you develop the rocket industry so fast towards new technologies, you come up with new things that already exist. You bridge and then that's gone. Now we have anti gravity technology, will catch up with what already exists and we don't have competitors. That's it. You know, and I think it's a genius plan. You know, I met an Alpha Centaurian lady who worked in a few years ago in Paradise, California and they were working at connectivity technologies and she told me that Elon Musk was somebody chosen to make great positive change to humanity through technologies. And that is happening now.

B (52:11)

Elon Musk and Donald Trump had a conversation not that long ago and Elon Musk, he said that there was this plan for manned missions to Mars by 2028, that they were going to use his SpaceX program to send their ships to Mars over different stages by 2028. Now to me, when I saw that, it was like, oh, okay, this is a way for them to disclose what's really on Mars because they're going to send the first humans to Mars by 2020. And Donald Trump, he was saying yes under his administration and of course we assume there that he's going to win the election and we'll talk about that soon, that by 2028 he's going to support Elon Musk getting to Mars to establish the first human colony there. And so how do you, what do you think the real agenda is with that catching up?

A (53:14)

And Thoran already told me this a while ago, I think on that, that it's if you disclose the existing anti gravity technologies, et cetera, while we still have the deep state in power, the deep state will crush it. So the plan is to bridge so that pretend you catch a technologically speaking developing technologies suddenly, oh, oh, we figured out anti gravity or figurative tangent fields, we figured out warp drive, subliminal speed, et cetera. We just figured it out. But it was existing, so you bridge it. And once it's nearly caught up, you tell the people the truth. By the way, we had this for a long time, but it's already there. Nobody, it's already implemented into the society and has not thing you can do about it, you know, and Mars has been inhabited. Look at all those secret space programs or whistleblowers. They've all been on Mars, nearly, nearly all of them. And they describe all the same things, human bases on Mars that existed, you know, for a long time. So you and I, when we look at the sky, we see Mars as a little shiny dot. Can you see what's on it? You can be told anything because there's no life on Mars as there's nobody you believe it or not, but can you actually see it? No. It's everything that NASA tells us. Do we want to believe it? We don't know.

B (54:55)

So is this all part of the disclosure plan that the Galactic Federation developed and handled over to U.S. space Command or to to the Earth alliance back in January 2023 when Thorhan went to the Raven Rock Mountain facility where this plan was handed over. So do you think what we're seeing now is all part of that?

A (55:19)

Yes, I think so. I think so. I wasn't given the planning detail, but I have confidence that it is. Parting the plan? Yes.

B (55:28)

Okay, so because I know a lot of people are like, well you know, that plan was in 2023. Why haven't we seen it happen? You know, why aren't we living now with the Galactic Federation showing up? What's been the delay?

A (55:42)

Because it's a plan. So it has different steps, you know, and it's work, it works taking all the data in account. And one of the big data is the still existing power of the deep state. And it is climate that there's something also important that Oron told me. Dark black light organizations that we won't name have been infiltrated by boots on the ground positive extraterrestrials or white hat humans for decades now. And these people have infiltrated. These organizations are untraceable. Even if it is, they are untraceable. They have a family, they married, they have kids. They are untraceable. You can't would never think they are. It is. And they're there dormant, waiting for the right moment to help shift these organizations in the way the White House want or sell information out. Recently there has been consecutive series of attacks in the Middle Eastern countries. And twice has happened that the information was leaked just before to the leaders of a country that was supposed to be attacked by another country, not to name them. You know, the information was leaked every time, each time, my home, well, the infiltrators, you know, so I see the results. That's quite interesting to watch.

B (57:30)

That would be a really good way for the Galactic Federation to operate. Not openly, but like behind the scenes with their operatives linking stuff to help prevent the deep state move forward with all of these contrived walls or false flag events. Because that's something that I think has become very obvious that many people have been talking about false flag events, black swan events, but they don't seem to happen. And it's like. Well, I think it's because there are operatives like you said, that are Linking things or making things things happen so that that false flag event or black swan event doesn't happen. And I think that's part of the plan to kind of like weaken and expose the deep state.

A (58:15)

Yes, exactly what it is my current behavior.

B (58:18)

Well, JP recently did an update on med beds and thankfully very happy to report that he was actually given the experience of going through a med bed and describing how it helped him and how he felt like a 20 year old after going through this med bed. And he recently had to retire from the military because he suffered a permanent disability. So it's very interesting that now he's been given this exposure to a med bed and that what he was exposed to is something that is being rolled out. And he described going into this military for some facility and seeing 15 med beds and all med beds were occupied by military veterans, those that were being part of these covert programs. And he was one of those. So he's been greenlighted to reveal that. So to me that suggests that okay, this is part of the rollout of med beds and beginning first with veterans. So you know what's. But now you've talked about med beds in the past being mass produced on the moon. So what do you know about the production and future release of med beds?

A (59:33)

Well, these med beds that I know about who have been produced on the moon are operational. I was told operational first for the military. The soldiers who have fought in the liberation war of the solar system and of the underground, the ds, they are the first probably because they are heroes who have fought for everyone else. And then once all these people would have offline are cured, it's the next step is young people, children, any type of requirement. First comes the, the, the more severe disease and etc. Etc. Children that who have been rescued, a lot of children who have been rescued, you know, and then people who have the most severe genetic disease or cancers or you know, and that's, that's the third part. First the military and then the kids and then the people, the older people. That's the procedure that I've been told regarding implementation on Earth. I was told that they are waiting that this state is losing power to start implementing them in military facilities, military hospitals and then civil hospitals and civilian hospitals. For anyone to have access to it, that it would be free. You only have the actual bed. Bed treatment is free, but you have to pay something for the hospital, for the wage of the workers, you know, the nurse, doctors, etc, technicians, you pay for that but not for the actual treatment. And that's very important. I was asked to insist on that because there's a lot of crooks who try to sell fake med beds or asking a silly amount of money to people, you know, so that's important. So JP's update is brings me a lot of hope and positive thinking because the med beds he described have started to be implemented on Earth. What does it mean? Is that the deep stages actually yes, they're losing power then you know, I was told they'd be implemented when the deep state loses power. And JP has this is testimony of this implementation that has started starting by the military exactly in the order I was told, you know, so to me it's very helpful that that's really good.

B (62:17)

Yeah. Well it suggests that the deep state is losing or is about to suffer and major defeat. So that takes me to the US Presidential elections which from today, from the time of recording that's in eight days time. So probably by the time people are watching this the, the elections would have happened. So what do you know about the presidential elections from the perspective of the Galactic Federation? What has Thorhan told you? What can we expect

A (62:52)

there? A few months ago I was told by Thor Han was watching the news and he said to me Kennedy, what next President? He said the key. He said I can't tell you everything but Kennedy is the key, okay? The key for us. Nothing. Okay. I learn a few months later then the candidate Robert Kennedy, Robert Kennedy gave his all his votes and support to Donald Trump. So I went oh wow, okay. And I was told as well that the two people I just named would win and you know, would be elected by the people and they are meant to be the winners and bring humanity direct line to plug into this progressive Star Trek future in direct line and we're good to go. But he told me as well that same as the previous you know, session four years ago, there would be attempts of creating a different outcome. I'm not using the terms, you know, but I think the audience understand using means to get a different result by not always honest means. And this is a variable, you know. So if this was to succeed the yeah, the annoying outcome for humanity if the other camp was to succeed to hijack the good outcome, the positive outcome for humanity. I hope everybody follows. If that was to happen, it's okay, no panic, people keep on fighting. It can even trigger people to uprise and become more active and, and warrior like and stand for their sovereignty. We want to try to avoid, avoid that because it's chaos, it's troubles. But you know, if the other side would manage to get their ways. It's okay, people will fight and if it will, you know, as I say, trigger them to they could arms and rise. But the thing that's one thing I want to insist and that I will never get a different talk about that. The future, I seen it. I have seen the future. I was shown the future many times. However humanity goes medical straightly plugged into it or if they are still stuck for four years and they have to fight their way through the chaos that is going to come for four years again, that they go like this or like this, they go there. The future, the positive Star Trek feature is a constant. It's set in the wave of the Heroes of Time. It's there, it exists already somewhere in time. It's done. How we get there, it's a variable. If Mr. T is not interfered, we plug directly into it and it's a motorway to the suffering future. If it's interfered, we're gonna fight through it and keep strong and it's okay because we're getting there anyway. It will take four more years and then, you know, well, I'm sure there's

B (67:06)

a lot of people that are watching this that are thinking why aren't gonna wait four years if you know, if there's a repeat of 2020, that's it, people.

A (67:15)

Yes, if that's it. If that comes, go for it, stand your sovereignty. And now you really wake up.

B (67:25)

Okay, so that will be the process of awakening a lot of people. If it's not a clear cut victory for Trump and the shenanigans and the protected process or something else happens that the resistance or people becoming active to overturn that will be part of the awakening process for the United States.

A (67:53)

That would be an enough is enough reaction.

B (67:57)

Well, let's kind of finish off and you already did kind of touch on that. The Star Trek future. I mean you've already said we've kind of like on that path. But you know, what do you see in terms of the Star Trek future? Is it going to be like humans establishing colonies all over our solar system, being in charge and the galactic community welcoming us as partners, or will there be a kind of a graduated process? Are there still hurdles for us overcome as a growing unifying planetary civilization?

A (68:38)

We have already had started to be part of them, of the Galactic Federation of Worlds which is an organization that is in charge of protecting the galaxy in a way. Military organization, but it's a federation. So we already are halfway in. Throughout all the military and the positive Secret space programs. What is going to happen is that, well, we are now already in the probation period, all the wait, because the extraterrestrials have taken out the extraterrestrial problem, but we need now to take out the human problem as humans. So that's what they're waiting for. You know, that's the law of evolution, of non interference in a way. So once that is dealt, we merge with that us as an independent unique culture. Earth with all its diversity, it's not even a planetary culture. It's a patchwork of identities, cultural identities that are federated as a planetary federation. Okay, there's a planetary federation. There's no one in charge. It's a federation. There are, it's like a, you know what they tried to do with Europe, but it was not really well done. It's that kind of thing. There will be teres to lead a council of federated cultures who are all keeping their identity. You know, that's Earth Federation. And this planetary federation will join membership with the Galactic Federation of other worlds or planets. And once we're in, we are sharing everything, all the technology, everything. And it's, it's absolutely radical the potential. It's going to be amazing having exchanges with other cultures, other races and I mean medically speaking, it will be heaven, you know, no more deadly diseases, you know, it will be incredible. And the technology, the technology floating cities that are not made with technology, but by these materials that are vorticial in their nature. That means they create, they cancel the mass. Every atom is a little vortex that cancels mass, has its little torsion field that cancels mass. And these materials just have no mass to the fluid. They cannot fall ever. And they build cities with that. And humans live on that also in the Earth that on the Earth that has healed nature has healed. And that in 20 years time we already see the effects of it. Only 20 years time from now we see forest regrowing. The air is clean and clear and crisp. The light is brighter because the atmosphere is clearer. And also the density is a little bit higher. People have noticed that the sun has become whiter due also to other phenomenon, but also the, the rising of frequency. When I saw that this future I went, okay, we are going to develop and be become more and more numerous on Earth. I said, I don't see really overpopulation. And then I was shown colonies on other planets. That's how normally a culture expands organically. Once they discover interstellar travel or interplanetary travel, first they send colonies and they keep on growing and expanding. That's what humanity is meant to become with no limitations in anything. Not even in space. Because space will be ours.

B (73:07)

Well, thank you for that inspiring vision of the future. That's really wonderful. So I want to thank you Elena for sitting down with me at this office here which was provided to us by Bruno with from the Troshia organization. So we want to thank Bruno and he was ably assisted by Dr. Marvin and Razwan in showing us around, driving us around all over the place and giving us all this incredible information about budget and the history of Romania and the ancient history, which is really, really fantastic. So we want to thank you and for making this possible for us. Thanks to Corina Pataki as well because she had this great idea to bring such wonderful people like you and we're honored and my whole country is grateful that you are here. Well, thank you Bruno and thank you.

C (74:10)

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A (74:37)

Sam.