Podcast Summary: EXTRA ANORMAL

Episode: Tenía un Sapo en el Estómago | Relatos de la Morgue

Host: Paco Arias
Guest: Héctor Villarreal (a.k.a. Lord Villadark)
Date: September 23, 2025

Main Theme & Purpose

In this intense and chilling episode of EXTRA ANORMAL, host Paco Arias welcomes paranormal investigator and radio host Héctor Villarreal to share terrifying tales from medical morgues. The episode explores stories sent in by listeners and professionals, illustrating the thin veil between the natural and the supernatural inside morgues. Through vivid recounting of eyewitness accounts, the hosts delve into paranormal phenomena, spiritual rituals, and unexplained events that challenge both medical logic and our understanding of life and death.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Nature of the Morgue: A Portal Between Worlds

• Paco and Héctor discuss the unique atmosphere of morgues—cold, silence disturbed by machines, and a pungent, telling smell different from that of dead animals (09:05).
  • Quote: “El cuerpo humano no huele a animal muerto cuando está en esta fase… el aroma de un ser humano… es 10 veces más fuerte, más penetrante…” – Paco Arias (09:05)
• Death as an inherent and final part of life; those working in morgues coexist with mortality daily, sometimes becoming desensitized to it but remaining affected by its spiritual weight (13:27).

2. First Story: “La Manita del Niño” (Starting ~16:23)

• Shared by Paco, received from an anonymous forensic worker
• A forensic technician, once atheist, is confronted with unexplainable experiences while handling the bodies of a mother and her child—victims of a car accident.
  • The technician breaks down emotionally while preparing the child’s body; suddenly, the child’s hand grips her finger tightly (19:20).
  • Feeling overwhelmed, she switches to the mother, experiences similar unexplainable sorrow, and even witnesses “tears” roll from the corpse’s eyes when she offers words of comfort.
  • Colleagues later report recurring strange noises near the bodies.
  • Notable Quote:
    "La manita de este pequeño estaba agarrando su dedo con fuerza… fue como en un último intento de aferrarse a algo…” – (23:00)
  • This event converts her into someone who now speaks to corpses, hoping to bring lost souls peace.
• Paco’s reaction:
  • “Híjole, sí sentí un nudo en la garganta… lo primero que hacen [los niños] es apretarte el dedo…” (28:15)

3. Second Story: “El Sapo en el Estómago” (Starting ~29:00)

• Told by Héctor, based on a well-documented family case
• A prominent doctor dies mysteriously after months of neck irritation. His son, a forensic doctor, performs the autopsy and discovers a living toad inside the intestines, its mouth sewn shut and containing a picture of the deceased.
• Forensics suspect a high-level ritual of brujería (witchcraft) possibly tied to an ex-lover’s vengeance.
  • This act is identified as dark, dangerous witchcraft; after the removal, the curse appears to transfer to the son, who handled the toad.
  • The son reports symptoms, then ceases all contact.
  • Quote:
    “Te lo digo tal como me lo escribió él: Un sapo adentro de los intestinos…” – Héctor Villarreal (34:29)
• Paco expands on quantum entanglement and the tradition, referencing Jacobo Grinberg’s theories on energy and brujería (41:36).

4. Third Story: “No Era Humano” (Starting ~47:43)

• Submitted by a hospital cleaning worker from Veracruz
• Encounters with mysterious plagues of centipedes and an uncleanable black stain, culminating in the discovery of an unidentified, non-human corpse: greenish skin, unearthly features, odd odor, crystal eyes.
• Disturbing events escalate with observable phenomena—centipedes crawling from the being’s mouth, colleagues entering trance-like states, and intense denial from hospital authorities about the body’s existence.
  • Possible ties to ritualistic practice or government cover-up scenarios are discussed.
  • Quote:
    “Eso no es humano…” – Intendente testigo (58:47)
• Héctor links such phenomena to government secrecy, noting that disappearances, cover-ups, and plausible deniability are common in extraordinary cases (62:36).

5. Ritual and Demonology in Mortuary Traditions (64:32)

• Héctor shares Jewish and cross-cultural perspectives on spirits, rituals, and possession.
• The concept of shaydams (demonic spirits craving physical bodies), the need for rituals (Imreash, Ishmiraj) to keep corpses from spiritual invasion, and parallels with other cultures’ death customs.
  • Notable Moment: A body revivifies during preparation, but behaves as someone else; the wife and the Jewish community recognize what’s entered the body is not the deceased. Only via ritual exorcism does the corpse rapidly decay and the spirit leave.
  • Quote:
    “El cuerpo empieza a caerse a pedazos… el cuerpo ya llevaba 10 días muerto.” – (83:10)

6. Encounters with Witchcraft and Ancestral Rites (85:58)

• Story: “El Cadáver del Brujo”
• A forensics worker faces bizarre occurrences while processing a suicide victim heavily tattooed with mystical symbols. Shadows, feelings of dread, and synchronized illness among staff follow a mysterious visitation by an old woman believed to recite spells over the body.
  • A child observed mimicking tattoo patterns hints at the passage of spiritual/occult knowledge.
  • Discussion ensues on the use of coded tattoos in shamanism, cementing the motif of knowledge passed through generations, often hidden in plain sight.
  • Quote:
    “¿Quién se los enseñó y de dónde vienen esos saberes? Son saberes interestelares que en algún punto fueron entregados aquí a la tierra para hacer el bien.” – Héctor Villarreal (98:57)

7. Navajo Rituals & The Importance of Death Rites (100:52)

• Héctor recounts a recent case from northern Mexico involving Navajo-descended families.
• Mishandled funerals lead to hauntings: shadow figures, spectral animals, and the failure of souls to move on until proper tribal rites are finally performed.
  • Emphasizes the critical nature of performing ancestral rituals, regardless of personal belief, to ensure peace for the dead and the living.
  • Quote:
    “Como te digo, si hemos visto algo en este podcast es eso: que los rituales mortuorios… son de suma importancia para que descanse la energía de esa persona.” – Héctor Villarreal (109:55)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Quote / Moment | Attribution | |------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------| | 09:05 | “El cuerpo humano… es 10 veces más fuerte, más penetrante [que el de animal muerto].” | Paco Arias | | 23:00 | “La manita de este pequeño estaba agarrando su dedo con fuerza…” | Listener Email (via Paco) | | 34:29 | “Te lo digo tal como me lo escribió él: Un sapo adentro de los intestinos.” | Héctor Villarreal | | 58:47 | “Eso no es humano…” | Hospital worker | | 83:10 | “El cuerpo empieza a caerse a pedazos… el cuerpo ya llevaba 10 días muerto.” | Héctor Villarreal | | 98:57 | “¿Quién se los enseñó y de dónde vienen esos saberes?... Son saberes interestelares…” | Héctor Villarreal | | 109:55 | “Los rituales mortuorios… son de suma importancia para que descanse la energía de esa persona.” | Héctor Villarreal |

Overarching Themes

• The fragile boundary between science and belief: Even the most rational workers are not impervious to inexplicable or spiritual encounters.
• The persistence of the soul/energy: Events suggest that energy, trauma, and rituals imprint spaces and bodies long after physical death.
• Necessity of death rites and tradition: Disregarding established mortuary customs can open doors to unresolved hauntings or spiritual disturbances.
• Power of ancestral knowledge and ritual: Whether in Jewish, indigenous, or shamanistic traditions, rituals protect, purge, or honor souls—often with tangible results.
• Transmission of spiritual legacies: Patterns, symbols, and knowledge both protect and potentially endanger, continuing through generations in both obvious and mysterious forms.

Episode Flow / Timestamps for Key Segments

• [08:10] Morgue as an energetic/spiritual space
• [16:23] Story: "La Manita del Niño"
• [29:00] Story: “El Sapo en el Estómago” (brujería and autopsy findings)
• [47:43] Story: “No Era Humano” (paranormal in morgue, non-human bodies)
• [64:32] Rituals, death, and demonology (Jewish tradition, shaydams)
• [85:58] Story: “El Cadáver del Brujo” (tattoos, shamanism, curses)
• [100:52] Story: Navajo death rites and spirits
• [109:55] Importance of ancestral rituals and language, closing reflections

Conclusion & Takeaways

The episode underscores the enduring power of human belief in the face of death’s mysteries—across cultures, professions, and generations. It argues for the preservation of rituals, respect for ancestral knowledge, and openness to the supernatural as a way to honor both the dead and the living. Whether through brujería, science, or shamanism, the morgue becomes a crucible—where stories, energies, and truths converge beyond easy explanation.

Guest and Host Plugs

• Héctor Villarreal (Lord Villadark):
  • La Sociedad de la Medianoche (YouTube)
  • Radio Macabro (Instagram)
  • @LordVilladark on all platforms

For those who crave terror laced with truth from both sides of the veil, this is an unforgettable chapter of EXTRA ANORMAL.