Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder
Episode: Paige Lorenze: Addressing the misconceptions + spilling on her new era
Date: November 13, 2025
Host: Hallie Batchelder
Guest: Paige Lorenze
Episode Overview
This lively, candid conversation between NYC influencer Hallie Batchelder and entrepreneur/creator Paige Lorenze dives into the misconceptions around Paige’s public persona, her journey into business with Dairy Boy, and what it means to be authentic in today’s influencer era. The episode is peppered with hilarious friendship moments, family revelations, career deep-dives, and no-shortage of “girl talk” on relationships, internet hate, self-discovery, and success. Hallie and Paige’s real-life friendship and banter make for an engaging, relatable, and insightful listen.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
How Hallie and Paige Met & Their Early Impressions
[02:40-04:49]
- Paige reveals she knew of Hallie before Hallie knew her, describing Hallie as "always had star aura, and you've always been that girl." (Paige, 02:57)
- Nostalgic Nantucket references: both grew up spending summers there, working retail, and running in overlapping social circles.
- Paige recounts a past incident involving a guy in their friend group—she tried to do the “right thing” by alerting another girl about dubious behavior, reflecting:
"Girls are way meaner to girls than guys are to girls. That's always how it goes." (Paige, 04:37)
- On confrontation: Paige is non-confrontational, preferring harmony, while Hallie admits to liking a bit of drama.
Careers Before Influencing & Working in Retail
[07:32-10:39]
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Paige emphasizes the importance of retail and service jobs as formative, teaching humility and practical skills:
"Working retail…is so good for being a creator and an influencer because I know how to move product." (Paige, 07:35)
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Both discuss their earliest roles: nannies, hostesses, retail workers—“I love to make money. The hostess thing was not bringing the coin” (Paige, 08:59).
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Reflections on Nantucket culture—everyone works, even the "trust fund babies," and the experience instills a work ethic.
Paige on Being "Straight Edge" Growing Up
[10:49-11:49]
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Paige describes her focus on competitive ski racing and respecting her parents’ sacrifice:
“The least thing I felt like I could do was not drink and not be a problem in high school.” (Paige, 11:40)
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This led to being left out of typical “cool kid” high school parties but set a precedent for her later discipline and drive.
The Concept of “Aura,” Authenticity, and Handling Internet Scrutiny
[14:12-18:51]
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Paige says Hallie has the “special sauce”—that unteachable influencer charisma.
"There are so many beautiful women that don’t have the special sauce." (Paige, 14:25)
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They touch on public figures like Hailey Bieber, who "gets a bit of hate, but I think it's related to her aura," and how she’s thrived by leaning into her uniqueness (Paige, 14:49).
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Both discuss internet rumors and handling hate:
"The truth always prevails…In this industry, you can virtue signal so much, but your real-life relationships and experiences always come forth." (Paige, 16:01)
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Paige explains she’s less vulnerable online, protecting her peace, but warns:
"If you are not putting out a narrative about yourself, someone will make it for you." (Paige, 17:05)
Owning the Narrative, Moving Mysteriously, and Public Life Balance
[17:41-19:52]
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Paige doesn't overshare on TikTok, which "adds to the curiosity" about her private and business lives.
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Affirmation that authenticity matters more than appeasing everyone:
"Because you don’t want to be bullied into being inauthentic either." (Halle, 18:51)
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Hallie praises Paige for being emotionally intelligent and supportive, especially in the influencer world.
Friendship, Loyalty, and High Standards
[20:32-21:57]
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Paige asserts Hallie is a fiercely loyal friend, unusually present and trustworthy for the influencer world:
"You are supportive of all your friends. You are present. You're really great. I love you." (Paige, 20:57)
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They reveal—humorously and with the help of Paige’s mom—that they're actually distant cousins (22:00-24:05):
“No, my grandmother's middle name is your last name…” (Paige, 22:01)
Paige's Move Out of NYC, Brand Growth, and Trusting Her Gut
[24:14-28:41]
- Paige left NYC when she realized she wasn’t aligned with her city's "inauthentic" content-creation grind.
- She reflects on the importance of self-discovery, even when “down bad,” and emphasizes trying things wholeheartedly:
“If I'm doing something, I'm doing it… I'm not half-assing anything.” (Paige, 28:25)
The Dairy Boy Brand – Origin Story
[31:58-36:13]
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Paige candidly shares how Dairy Boy grew from selling camo hats out of her garage to a “massive business"—her leap into entrepreneurship was about starting, not waiting for perfection:
"It’s way more important to get your idea out there and start something, even if it’s not perfect..." (Paige, 32:01)
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Emphasizes feedback loops, team-building, and how online hate does not affect product sales:
"There can be 110 videos made about my business and the quality being bad and my sales will be up." (Paige, 38:49)
Handling Criticism and Blocking on Social Media
[37:16-39:54]
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Open discussion about boundaries:
"I do block people online a lot. Like truly, I love the block…If I think you’re sus, I’m blocking." (Paige, 37:16)
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She welcomes genuine feedback for business improvement, but dismisses “bot” negativity.
Influence, Family Support, and Smart Humor
[40:03-41:41]
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Both reflect on coming from hardworking families, how that’s fueled their ambition, and the importance of supportive partners and parents.
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Hallie jokes about her online “dumb character,” but Paige confirms:
"You're one of the smartest people I know." (Paige, 41:38)
WAG Life: Paige on Being Engaged to Tommy Paul
[41:43-44:57]
- Paige appreciates the chance to merge sports, style, and her social platforms through her relationship, but clarifies being a "WAG" isn't her entire identity:
"Being a WAG is the most…least interesting thing about me, I think...it's impossible for me to do everything 100%." (Paige, 44:57)
Feminism, Ambition, and Defining Success
[46:04-50:26]
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Paige frames her lifestyle as a blend of soft-life/tradition and female entrepreneurship:
"You can live a soft life…but you are also an entrepreneur and business owner. You're also financially independent and you can do both." (Paige, 46:13)
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Both discuss pressures of settling down and societal timelines, reinforcing:
"The most important thing to do is figure out what success means to you and go after that. And that looks different for everyone." (Paige, 49:37)
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Hallie: "Comparison is a thief of joy." (50:21)
The Engagement Scoop
[52:27-54:18]
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Paige shares that her wedding to Tommy Paul will be “invite-only” to true friends—“I'm not inviting anyone…that I wouldn't want to have lunch with.” (Paige, 53:45)
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Hallie raves about Paige as the "most fun" person to party/dance with.
Relationship & Life Advice: Listener Q&A
[58:00-65:12]
- First date tips: Paige sees first dates as interviews, with Hallie adding it’s about “interviewing someone to bone.” (58:26, 58:32)
- Plastic surgery, glow ups: Both joke about past looks and “face transplant” rumors, with Paige emphasizing self-acceptance and growth.
- Gender-swap question:
"If you could be a guy for a day, what would you do?" (64:14)
Hallie: “I would whip my dick out. Is that bad?” (64:47)
Paige imagines pitching herself at a private equity forum. - ‘What are we?’ talks with men:
"Do not ask a man ever what you are. If you have to ask, run." (Paige, 64:51)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On confrontation and drama:
Hallie: "So you don't like the drama?"
Paige: “No, I like drama. You do a little bit...” (05:36-05:38) -
On friendship standards:
Paige: "You are loyal, you're smart, you're caring. You are so supportive of all your friends. You are present. You're really great. I love you..." (20:57) -
On personal growth:
Paige: “I’m not scared to dive full…like two feet into anything. If I’m doing something, I’m doing it…not half-assing anything.” (28:15-28:25) -
Paige on redefining the “trad wife” and ambition dichotomy:
“You can want a traditional life and also be, you know, progressive…We need to give women more credit that…creating content and also living traditionally, it's a choice.” (47:59-48:18) -
Blunt dating advice:
Paige: “Do not ask a man ever what you are. If you have to ask, run.” (64:51) -
On blocking haters:
Paige: “I do block people online a lot. Like truly, I love the block...If I see something that I think is sideways. Like if I think you’re sus, I’m blocking.” (37:16)
Timestamps for Important Segments
- [02:40] – How Hallie & Paige met, Nantucket stories
- [07:32] – Early jobs, working in retail
- [10:49] – Straight edge, sports focus, and family respect
- [14:12] – Aura, influencer "special sauce," Hailey Bieber, authenticity
- [17:05] – Online narratives, handling hate
- [20:57] – Loyalty, friendship dynamics
- [22:00] – Family revelation: Hallie & Paige are cousins
- [24:14] – Paige on leaving NYC and self-realization
- [31:58] – The Dairy Boy brand origin & growth
- [37:16] – Social media boundaries, blocking, criticism
- [41:43] – Being a WAG, tennis circuits, lifestyle blend
- [46:13] – New models of women’s success, work/life blend
- [52:27] – Wedding plans and party philosophy
- [58:26] – Listener Q&A: first dates, beauty, relationships
Final Thoughts
Hallie and Paige’s “Extra Dirty” episode is testament to the power of honest friendship, entrepreneurial ambition, and embracing your personal path despite outside perceptions. Paige’s insights into business and self-acceptance—paired with both women’s sharp wit and sincerity—make this a blueprint for authenticity, hustle, and meaningful female support in the influencer era.
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