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Welcome back. I own college basketball podcast CBS Sports Network. Kevin Willard, he made it official this weekend. He left Maryland after a trip to the sweet 16. He's now the head coach at Villanova. It all happened in a pretty awkward and public way. Norlander, what did you make of how all of this went down?
Expert 1
Oh boy, what a question. So it wasn't, it wasn't handled well, at least publicly from what I was told. You know, Willard did consistently keep the Maryland president apprised throughout. Now there's been a variety of stuff that has been reported on and John Talty, who did a big dive on this story for us@cbssports.com over the weekend, even has more. He got boosters on the record speaking about how it's better that he's gone now. One of the quotes was it was just chaos. Another quote was he banged us like a drum. And all of this we went from a situation where, I mean, personally, initially I thought Willard was doing this and actually, you know what, let me set the table like this. GP I truly do think that when this got going and it got public about his candidacy for Villanova, which when that first happened just to, I know like a million things happened in our world, let alone in college basketball. But just a reminder that when Willard Zane was first attached to this job, Porter Moser at Oklahoma was attached to it, Richard Pitino now at Xavier, but was very much attached to it. And Villanova was consistently in contact with him, there was actually another candidate that's never been released publicly. So I won't disclose that name that I'm pretty sure Villanova was looking at in addition to Willard. So that was where we were initially. And then Willard's name got attached to it and then he spoke out on it at the press conference the first of, I guess, three times he did this. I did think that he was using leverage to publicly say, hey, listen, because he didn't have an id, like he wanted to say, we need to commit more as a university to our basketball program. And the night New York thing, you know, became its own thing and all of that. But I think it went from potentially him trying to do that to it being a situation where he could not return to College Park. Like the fan base detests him now. They hate the way that he handled it and the idea that, you know, that he could have used this to. And you know, I was told he had a contract in the neighborhood of six, maybe even slightly north of $6 million waiting for him at Maryland to come back in contract renegotiations. But it became truly untenable. And now he gets to go to a place where Villanova, where basketball and like basketball means a hell of a lot at Maryland. But there's a football program, they're in the Big Ten. There's all this stuff there at Villanova, basketball is the show. And he returns to the Big east and he gets to go back there. Whether or not he can be successful, that's. That's another discussion for potentially another time. We will do a college coaching carousel wrap up pod in April, as we do every year, to get kind of deeper into this stuff. But you asked me what I made of is it was interesting, I mean, the way that. Interesting to say, to say the least. I mean, he definitely ticked off a lot of people, not just even fans, but like money people. At Maryland, I was told that you know, he went dark in spots with people that are like highly influential and connected at Maryland, which is not a great look. And so, and so here we are with Maryland having to find a coach. And I'll toss it right back to you, but just real quick, like, Maryland is now in a position where it does not have a coach, it doesn't have an ad. The portal has been open for a week and it's got to figure out what it's going to do, what candidates want the job, what candidates can can it get. Buyouts are a truly significant factor in a lot of this. So will it be Buzz Williams? Will it be Mike Rhodes? Will it be a Tony Skin? A Dwayne Simpkins? A Chris Mack? Will it be one of those five names? Will it be someone Steve Blake put his name on the board for the job? GP I actually kind of love it. I have no idea if Steve Blake can run a program or not, but I do actually really love the idea of if he truly wants it, if he's got the ability to do it. A former player coming in and trying to save the day. That actually has some real compelling stuff to me. Don't know if it would work whatsoever. Don't know if Maryland and its search firm are going to seriously consider him. But yeah, this has been one heck of a saga that played alongside the NCBA tournament. What about your thoughts?
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The mistake Kevin made is thinking that if I talk about this honestly and in a nuanced way, they'll understand. And the problem is that just is not a effective strategy. My advice to coaches on this is pretty simple. Don't talk about it ever. Your future at your school, your possible future at another school. Somebody is reporting you're a candidate for a job, just respectfully Decline to comment 100% of the time because nothing you say is going to make it better. Like, practically speaking, take basketball and emotion and fandom and, and all of that out of this, which I'm capable of doing. And I do it all the time. It's why I don't have issues with the transfer portal. I don't think about this from a perspective of is it great for the sport? I'm happy to have that conversation, but to me, the most important thing is, do people get what they're worth? Do people get what's fair? I see a young man transfer from one place to another place, get millions of dollars. I want to celebrate that. I don't want to be offended by it. So I'm capable of taking all this stuff that most sports fans seem. Seem to have trouble taking out of it. And when you do that and look at it this way, this is what you get. Kevin Willard had a very good job, but he clearly didn't love it, not every aspect of it, didn't know who his next boss was going to be and didn't like the financial commitment connected to his program from his school, didn't know if it was going to get better or worse going forward, and sort of made up his mind. I think earlier than he indicated, he made up his mind that he was very interested in taking this opportunity at Villanova if it was presented to him. And I think the mistake he made is, like, if I just sort of put this all out there, people will understand. Like, if I just say, hey, guys, I'm trying to run one of the best basketball programs in America and they won't let me stay an extra night in New York and like this other school, you know who we're talking about, they'll let me Stay every night in New York. So, like, you guys, I mean, what would you do? You would consider it, wouldn't you? And that's all I'm doing. Like, that's a totally logical, understandable perspective. But once you're a basketball coach at a place where people care about basketball and you start saying that stuff out loud, it ain't gonna work for you. And that's the biggest lesson from all of this. Like, even if you are justified in your reasoning for possibly wanting to leave your current job for another one, you cannot say that into a microphone while your season is still unfolding. You cannot say it into a microphone on your way to the sweet 16 because it will blow up on you. And that is what happened. You know, it's obviously more complicated than that, but in its simplest form, he tried to talk about something in a nuanced way that coaches have never figured out how to effectively talk about without it blowing up on them. And he's the latest one to have to learn that lesson the hard way.
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Yeah. So two things real quick here. If he doesn't talk about it, it doesn't stop it from being just as big of a story, though. So, you know, not to say that that's not the route that he shouldn't take. But if he declines comment, he's going to get asked about it. His name's going to be attached to it. There will be reporters that do their job and report on what's happening behind the scenes. He can choose not to talk about it. But even his no comment, in my op opinion, becomes nearly as big of a story. If you're going to be have genuine interest in looking to another job, that's going to get out there most of the time. What are you going to do? The other thing separate to this. Maryland fans, like, I do feel bad for you because you had a team with a Crab five with a buzzer beater in the tournament with this freshman player that you might not see the like of on your campus again for 10, 15, 20 years. And now this denouement is such a downer that this season gets attached to Willard's exodus to Villanova. And they're just. There is a taint to it that is not fair to the players. The fan base had been to one sweet 16 in the prior, what, 17, 18, 19 years before this. And that is an unfortunate fallout of what happened here. I wanted to at least acknowledge that because I think for Maryland fans, they were all the more furious. It's not like they get to the sweet 16 every two, three, four years. They rarely get to experience this. They finally get there and then what the players did for the most part, Queen got his love. It was completely overshadowed by what Will it did.
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Eye On College Basketball: Episode Summary
Title: EOCBB ON CBSSN BONUS: The Story Behind Kevin Willard Leaving Maryland for Nova
Release Date: March 31, 2025
In this episode of CBS Sports' Eye On College Basketball, hosts Gary Parrish and Matt Norlander delve into the controversial and highly publicized departure of Kevin Willard from the University of Maryland to Villanova University. Released amidst the excitement of the NCAA Tournament, the episode provides an in-depth analysis of the events leading up to Willard's decision, the fallout from his departure, and the broader implications for Maryland's basketball program.
Host 1 kicks off the discussion at [01:50], highlighting the sudden and public nature of Kevin Willard's decision to leave Maryland after their Sweet 16 trip:
“Kevin Willard, he made it official this weekend. He left Maryland after a trip to the sweet 16. He's now the head coach at Villanova. It all happened in a pretty awkward and public way.” [01:50]
Expert 1 provides a critical analysis of how Willard’s departure was handled, suggesting it was mishandled from the outset:
“It wasn't, it wasn't handled well, at least publicly from what I was told.” [02:09]
He discusses the communication breakdown between Willard and Maryland's administration and the negative reactions from boosters and fans. Expert 1 references investigative reporting by John Talty from CBS Sports, who uncovered that boosters felt relieved by Willard's departure, describing the situation as “chaos” and noting that Willard "banged us like a drum" [02:09].
The conversation shifts to the broader context of coaching changes in college basketball. Expert 1 compares Willard's situation to other coaching candidates attached to various programs, highlighting the volatile nature of coaching appointments:
“When Willard's name got attached to it and then he spoke out on it at the press conference the first of, I guess, three times he did this.” [02:09]
Discussion moves to the financial aspects of the coaching change. Expert 1 reveals that Willard had a significant contract at Maryland, estimated to be around $6 million, which influenced his decision to leave:
“He had a contract in the neighborhood of six, maybe even slightly north of $6 million waiting for him at Maryland to come back in contract renegotiations.” [02:09]
Host 1 and Expert 1 explore the immediate impact on Maryland’s basketball program, including the absence of a current coach and athletic director. They speculate on potential candidates for the vacant coaching position, mentioning names like Buzz Williams, Mike Rhodes, and Tony Skinn, among others [02:09].
Expert 1 adds empathy for Maryland fans, emphasizing the overshadowing of the team's recent Sweet 16 success due to the coaching upheaval:
“Maryland fans were all the more furious. It's not like they get to the sweet 16 every two, three, four years. They rarely get to experience this. They finally get there and then what the players did for the most part, Queen got his love. It was completely overshadowed by what Willard did.” [11:12]
Host 1 discusses the critical mistake Willard made by communicating his intentions publicly, believing that transparency would garner understanding:
“The mistake Kevin made is thinking that if I talk about this honestly and in a nuanced way, they'll understand. And the problem is that just is not a effective strategy.” [07:57]
He advises coaches to refrain from public commentary on potential job moves, emphasizing that silence is often a wiser strategy to avoid backlash and media frenzy.
Expert 1 concurs, noting that even a "no comment" stance can keep the issue in the spotlight:
“If he declines comment, he's going to get asked about it. His name's going to be attached to it. There will be reporters that do their job and report on what's happening behind the scenes.” [11:12]
The hosts and expert reflect on the long-term implications for both Maryland and Villanova. While Willard transitions to a program where basketball is the primary focus, Maryland faces the challenge of rebuilding under new leadership without tarnishing their recent achievements.
Host 1 concludes by reiterating the lessons from Willard’s departure, emphasizing the importance of strategic communication for coaches in similar situations:
“You cannot say that into a microphone while your season is still unfolding. You cannot say it into a microphone on your way to the sweet 16 because it will blow up on you.” [07:57]
Handling Departures: Publicly announcing potential job moves, especially during pivotal moments like the NCAA Tournament, can lead to unintended negative consequences.
Communication Strategy: Coaches are advised to maintain discretion and avoid discussing future plans publicly to prevent backlash and media complications.
Impact on Programs: A coaching departure can overshadow team achievements and create uncertainty within the athletic department, affecting both current players and future recruiting efforts.
Fan Sentiment: Transparent communication does not always translate to fan support; managing perceptions is crucial for maintaining program stability.
Host 1:
“Kevin Willard, he made it official this weekend. He left Maryland after a trip to the sweet 16. He's now the head coach at Villanova. It all happened in a pretty awkward and public way.” [01:50]
Expert 1:
“It wasn't, it wasn't handled well, at least publicly from what I was told.” [02:09]
“Maryland fans were all the more furious. It's not like they get to the sweet 16 every two, three, four years.” [11:12]
Host 1:
“The mistake Kevin made is thinking that if I talk about this honestly and in a nuanced way, they'll understand.” [07:57]
This episode of Eye On College Basketball offers a comprehensive examination of Kevin Willard's departure from Maryland to Villanova, shedding light on the complexities and repercussions of coaching changes in collegiate sports. Through expert analysis and candid discussions, hosts Gary Parrish and Matt Norlander provide listeners with valuable insights into the delicate balance of leadership, communication, and program stability in college basketball.