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Summary

Eye On College Basketball Podcast — Episode Summary (March 10, 2026)

Episode Theme:
The episode dives deep into conference tournament season—making picks for the power conferences, reminiscing about classic Champ Week moments, discussing the coaching carousel, and ranking the current National Coach of the Year contenders.

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Conference Tournament Auto-Bid Winners & Underdogs

[01:42] - [04:01] "Furman & Troy Stories"

• Hosts: Gary Parrish and Matt Norlander
• Highlights:
  • Furman wins the Southern Conference Title—returning to the NCAA tournament for the first time in three years.
    • Matt Norlander: “When they went in 23, that was the first time in more than four decades that the Dins... made it to the Big dance.” ([02:16])
    • Fond recollection of Furman’s last tournament win, specifically the 2023 buzzer-beater vs. Virginia.
  • Troy clinches a second straight Sun Belt title under Scott Cross—a school first.
    • Norlander: “His name has been connected as one of the three, four, five most likely guys to potentially get that Georgia Tech job. He’s a really, really good coach…” ([02:56])
  • Parallels between Cross’s journeys at UT Arlington and Troy, highlighting the disappointment behind his UTA firing.
    • Parrish: “Whoever’s running UT Arlington has absolutely no impact on my life whatsoever. But it is worth noting that Scott landed at Troy and now has Troy in back-to-back NCAA tournaments.” ([04:01])

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Bubble Talk & WCC Upset

[05:14] - [07:51] "Santa Clara Upsets St. Mary’s"

• Santa Clara stuns St. Mary’s in the WCC semifinals, setting up a showdown with Gonzaga.

  • Discussing whether the WCC could become a three-bid league.
  • Norlander: “Santa Clara’s sitting at 36 [in wins above bubble]. If you’re sitting inside of the top 40, I think the committee is going to put you in just about every time.” ([06:07])

• Parrish notes this is likely the last time the WCC will be a multi-bid league with Gonzaga’s expected exit.

  • Parrish: “Probably a three-bid league for the last time in the history of the conference.” ([07:51])

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Power Conference Tournament Predictions

ACC

[11:49] Norlander’s ACC Pick

• Virginia over Duke, mentioning recent injuries (Caleb Foster's surgery).
  • Norlander: “When you hear a coach use the phrase 'foreseeable future,' that means he’s done.” ([11:49])
• Parrish: Picks Duke even with injuries, forecasting them as No.1 overall seed ([12:50]).

Big East

[13:31] NYC Showdown

• Universal hope for UConn vs. St. John’s in the final.
  • Norlander: “It would be so disappointing if this was anything other than Huskies versus Johnny’s…” ([13:31])
  • Both pick UConn to win.

Big Ten

[14:33] Chaos in the Midwestern Air

• Norlander: Picks Illinois’ top offense to prevail over Purdue.
• Parrish: Selects Michigan as the safe, top-seed pick but acknowledges the league’s wild variability.

Big 12

[16:58] Houston vs. Arizona

• Both hosts choose Houston over Arizona, with Arizona as the best team across the season.

SEC

[17:43] Counterpoint: Non-One Seeds

• Parrish: Florida is the team to beat, predicting Todd Golden’s squad as a No.1 seed.
• Norlander: Takes Alabama and notes the SEC often yields a non-top seed winner.

Overarching Pattern

• Norlander: “What’s the pattern? Virginia, Yukon, Illinois, Houston, Bama. What do they have in common?…They are all non one seeds.” ([19:14])
  • Parrish: “You're braver than I am. I took, I believe, three one seeds.” ([19:30])

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Champ Week Memories: Iconic Moments & Personal Favorites

[20:50] “Memories Are Made In This Week Annually”

Matt Norlander

• Kemba Walker’s buzzer-beater at MSG (2011)

  • “Kemba did the press conference...then he saw me. He’s like, ‘Nah, man, I’m good, we can talk.’ I’ll never forget that.” ([21:40])

• Syracuse-UConn 6 OT Game (2009)

  • Bar-watched epic after being denied press credentials.

• Isaiah Thomas’ Pac-12 Championship Buzzer-Beater (2010)

• Childress’ Crossover (1995 ACC Tournament)

  • “That Childress highlight...is one of the marquee long-lasting non NCAA tournament March highlights in the history of college basketball.” ([32:23])

• On why Champ Week is almost as good as March Madness: “There are more games being played...more teams that are playing with their seasons on the line... I still slightly favor the actual Big Dance, but it's as close as possible.” ([32:57])

Gary Parrish

• Kenyon Martin’s 2000 leg-breaking injury in Memphis that altered the national title race.
  • “Kenyon Martin, broken leg. Changed college basketball history perhaps forever.” ([23:00])
• Darius Washington’s missed free throws (Memphis, Conf. USA, 2005)
  • “To this day, that is the hardest basketball moment I’ve ever watched that didn’t involve an injury...This young man just crushed, feeling like he just let a whole city down.” ([26:36])
  • Noted the Phish song “The Line” as a testament to the moment’s importance.
• Covering undefeated runs in conference tournaments (Wichita State 2014, Kentucky 2015).

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Coach of the Year Race: Contenders Ranked

[36:54] - [39:53] "Wide Open Field"

• Norlander’s Top 5 (in order):
  1. Travis Steele, Miami (OH) – Undefeated regular season, “...a 1 in 3740 chance...longer odds than any of the other teams.” ([37:20])
  2. Jon Scheyer, Duke – Lost five starters to the NBA, still built a No.1 overall seed.
  3. Tommy Lloyd, Arizona – “He is as freshman dependent as anyone in the country and it’s working.” ([37:20])
  4. Dusty May, Michigan – Outstanding year one, impressive player development.
  5. Fred Hoiberg, Nebraska – Program’s best season ever, outpacing all reasonable expectations.
• Parrish’s pick: Hoiberg at Nebraska. “Unimaginable, unprecedented. And that’s the place I would hand the trophy to. You wouldn’t argue with me, would you?” ([39:36])
• Both agree the race is genuinely up for grabs until the Elite Eight is complete.

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Coaching Carousel: Who’s Hot, Who’s Not

[42:46] - [47:58] "Jobs in Flux"
Jobs expected/rumored to open:

• Arizona State: Hurley likely to depart.

• Syracuse: Uncertainty around Red Autry; search for next AD is ongoing but contact with coaching candidates has reportedly begun.

• Cincinnati: West Miller might need an NCAA bid to keep his job.

• Pittsburgh: Jeff Capel’s future murky; expensive buyout but likely to turn over.

• Norlander: “I don’t think we’re going to have a top 20 job that comes open. Although never say never—like, weird stuff happens...” ([44:13])

• Memphis:

  • Parrish: “I don’t think it’s going to open. I think Penny Hardaway will get a year nine...Nobody on this planet other than Penny Hardaway would get a Year 9 at the University of Memphis under these circumstances.” ([45:23])
  • If results don't improve next season, the decision to part ways becomes easier and more palatable for the administration.

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Quotes & Noteworthy Exchanges

• Norlander on Coach of the Year:

  • “When you hear a coach use the phrase, foreseeable future, that means he’s done.” ([11:49])

• Parrish on Club Roster Management:

  • “Why do you want to pay $6 million buyout to fracture your fan base, alienate your most famous alum to hire the next coach? You don’t even know who that’s going to be.” ([46:28])

• On the magic of conference tournaments:

  • "Memories are made in this week annually. I can’t wait to see which ones we get made as it unfolds." ([33:17], Parrish)

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Notable Timestamps

• [02:14] Furman’s NCAA return recap, Zebulander joke
• [05:14] Santa Clara’s bubble fate and the WCC three-bid discussion
• [11:49] ACC tournament injury fallout and predictions
• [20:50] Reminiscence about Kemba Walker’s MSG moment
• [23:00] Kenyon Martin’s injury and alternate college basketball history
• [26:36] Darius Washington’s infamous missed free throws
• [37:20] Norlander’s Coach of the Year ranking rundown
• [42:46] Deep dive into the coaching carousel jobs and implications

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Final Thoughts & Looking Ahead

• Both hosts set out for live coverage: Norlander to Kansas City for the Big 12, Parrish to NYC for CBS studio coverage.
• Parrish: “We’ll have a new episode...coming to YouTube on Wednesday. So make sure to be prepared for that.” ([48:17])

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This summary captures the episode’s unique blend of insightful analysis, personal flashbacks, and playful banter—delivering a vibrant tour through the high drama and storytelling that define March’s college basketball landscape.

Transcript

[Matt Norlander]

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[Gary Parrish]

Hey there. I am Gary Parish. Welcome back to the I Own College Basketball podcast. We're here on CBS Sports Network where we sometimes discuss camel fighting dodo birds and leaky black. Matt. Norlander is here with me and the place to start on this Tuesday is with Monday's auto bid winners. Congrats to firm and the Paladins are danc out of the Southern Conference. Congrats to Troy. The Trojans are dancing out of the sun belt. Bob Ritchie, Scott Cross, both back in the NCAA tournament. Norlander, good to see you. Can you tell the folks why these are cool stories?

[Matt Norlander]

Well, let's go with Furman first. And yes, I have to go. Zoolander here. Fur man. Fur man. They are back in the tournament for the first time in three years under the same coach, Bob Ritchie. When they went in 23, that was the first time in more than four decades that the Dins as they like to call themselves made it to the Big dance and memorably 2023 Furman Virginia. That buzzer beater. Remember that near the end and and the the irony that happened with that play with on Virginia side and Kei Clark who had this weird bookend. We talked about it on the pod three years ago where he was a part of that incredible play to help extend Virginia's run to the national title back in 2019 and then his career ended unfortunately in that game. So anyway, great to see Furman back. This was a team that was expected to be the the team to come out of the SoCon in the preseason, but it didn't really work out that way. That's why we have conference tournaments. Good on Bob Ritchie. Troy is intriguing in that this is back to back runs to the Big Dance for the first time in school history. They've got to coach Scott Cross and we'll do some carousel stuff. More later in the show. But his name has been connected as one of the, you know, three, four, five most likely guys to potentially get that Georgia Tech job. He's a really, really good coach. Happened to just, you know, this time of year you don't know who you're going to get on the phone with. Had talked to a couple coaches that have faced his team in the past couple of years and he's just, he's considered very, very good at his gig here. So Troy and Furman both obviously going to be double digit seeds at this point. With Furman you're probably looking at I think a 15. Troy Trojans are a bit more dangerous. They're probably going to be on the 14 line. I love this time of year. We've got five more auto bids coming down the pike later on Tuesday.

[Gary Parrish]

Love everything about the Scott Cross story. You and I have both known him for a long time. For people who are less familiar, he was the coach at UT Arlington for an extended period of time. That is where he played college basketball. That's his alma mater. He's an alum and they fired him. Which I remember thinking that's bizarre. Why would you move on from Scott Cross at UT Arlington? But whatever athletic directors and universities, they can make their own decisions. Whoever's running the UT Arlington basketball program has absolutely no impact on my life whatsoever. So whatever. But it is worth noting that Scott landed at Troy and he now has Troy in back to back NCAA tournaments and trivia time. When do you think the last time Arlington was in the NCAA tournament they had to get rid of this old Scott Cross character because, you know, I guess he wasn't good enough anymore. So UT Arlington said, Scott Cross, thank you for going to school here, thank you for playing here, thank you for coaching here. But you have to go. When do you think the last time UT Arlington's been to the NCAA tournament?

[Matt Norlander]

I feel like you might be leading me to say zero, but I'm not going to say that. I don't know the answer. I'm going to blindly guess 2006, but I am in the dark on this one.

[Gary Parrish]

The last time UT Arlington appeared in the NCAA tournament was 2008 when Scott Cross took them there. When Scott Cross took Arlington to the NCAA tournament, then they fired Scott Cross. He now takes Troy to the NCAA tournament and back to back years. Arlington still trying to get back to the big dance. They went 99 in the whack this season. Meantime, late on Monday Santa Clara upset St. Mary's in the WCC tournament semifinals. So now the Broncos will play Gonzaga late Tuesday in the WCC tournament title game. Um, they're in if they win it no matter what. That's the way automatic bids to the NCAA Tournament work. Santa Clara can they lose this game and the West Coast Conference still be a three bid league with the Zags, the Gals and Herb Sid next Broncos?

[Matt Norlander]

I think so. And the biggest reason why is wins against bubble right Now Santa Clara 36th. We are only in year two of the web era. We're really in my opinion are going to need at least four seasons or so worth of data before we can draw some real conclusions about. If you go into Selection Sunday, where should you be most comfortable? You definitely want to be 45 or better, but in my opinion if you're sitting inside of the top 40 I think the committee is going to put you in just about every time. Santa Clara is sitting at 36. Let's operate under the idea that Santa Clara loses on Tuesday night against Gonzaga. I still don't think that wins above bubble number is going to drop below 40 on Selection Sunday so I think it's going to be safe. The the quad numbers here 8 and 6 in quad one and two. Just as a reminder there's a lot of teams from the high major leagues that are populating that bubble cut line. Last four in, first four out that are under 500. In quad one and quad two, Santa Clara is eight and six. It's two and five. Specifically in quad one it's it's resume based metrics are all top 40 and its predictives are also very good in Torvik 28 and Ken Palm 34. Even its net ranking is top 40 so I think it's going to be doing well. It has six top 100 wins and it's got two over a St. Mary's team that's going to get in so the we wanted to see Gonzaga and St. Mary's one more time as WCC mates. That's not going to happen, but it is in exchange for what I think is going to be the best possible gift to the wcc, it being a three bid league. I don't know if this will ever happen again because Gonzaga is about to leave and this could ultimately be a perma one bit league moving forward here. So to get three is special. 30 years since Santa Clara last made the Big Dance. I won't call it a lock but I think it's going to be in and I think it's going to be in with some room to spare barring, you know, five six bit thieves which we had a couple of years ago.

[Gary Parrish]

Yeah, if you're a power conference bubble team looking at you Auburn, you didn't like that result on Monday night. I think the WCC probably, probably is a three bid league now and I had not quite thought of it in those terms, but I believe you're right. Probably a three bid league for the last time in the history of the conference. This is Gary Parrish from the Ion College Basketball Podcast reminding you that the big college basketball tournament is just right around the corner. Been a great season. Can't wait to cover what will be my 23rd straight tournament. Hand to heart, I'm telling you there's nothing like being there live. If you can, you should try it. When you do, you use Game Time because Game Time has the lowest price guarantee or gametime will credit you 110% of the difference so you can shop and purchase with confidence. You know my family's coming up to New York to visit me while I'm working. I decided I want to take them to the conference tournament in Midtown Manhattan. So I looked at Friday Session four, clicked on four tickets. Dozens of options popped up. Found four in the lower level, clicked on that one, click later, I'm paying just like that. We got conference tournament tickets in nyc. It's going to be a blast. Take the guesswork out of buying college basketball tickets with Game Time. Download the Game GameTime app, create an account and use code I for $20 off your first purchase terms. Apply again, create an account and redeem code eye for $20 off download the Gametime app today.

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[Gary Parrish]

Let's move on to the power conferences because though Championship week in many ways is about these one bid leagues and I love those games. You know the best teams, the ones that are going to probably join us in Indianapolis, they typically come from five power conferences. So let's see who can predict some winners if you follow the Island College Basketball podcast. You know we're not great at at picking individual games against the spread. That's like there are some things we do well there yeah, there are some there are some things we do well and there are other things not so well. Picking games against the spread not so well. But can we pick tournament winners? Let's see. Let's see if we can pick tournament winners 5 power conference tournaments unfolding this week. Let's see who can predict some winners. Let's start in the acc. Norlander, who do you have winning the acc and does news from Monday morning that Caleb Foster is having surgery on a foot and out for the quote, foreseeable future. That as that. Does that impact your way of thinking at all? And whether it does or not with you, should it with the rest of us? Because that's the nation's number one team and they're now shorthanded.

[Matt Norlander]

At the risk of making this a block entirely too beefy, which is already going to happen. When you hear a coach use the phrase foreseeable future, how does that means he's done?

[Gary Parrish]

That means he's done. I shouldn't say that. I don't know if he's done. But I don't like foreseeable future. I like. I like two.

[Matt Norlander]

Two to three weeks that was shy or saying I want to try and be as honest as possible without saying this is season ending because maybe there's a chance that if we make the final four, he could be back and if Duke makes the Final four and and Caleb Foster can be back to experience that again. Would love to see that without Patrick Ngangba and without Caleb Foster. Your boy here is going for a non Duke team to win the ACC tournament. I want to be clear. If Duke wins the ACC tournament and every single margin is by 12 plus points, even without two of its starters, I will not be surprised. I will not be shocked in the slightest. That said, Virginia is 27 4. I'll say Virginia beats Duke in the ACC title game.

[Gary Parrish]

We're so low on Caleb's now in the acc.

[Matt Norlander]

We are? Yes.

[Gary Parrish]

I mean we had two really good Caleb's not too long ago and now we've lost them both. Unfortunate. I'll take Duke shorthanded still to win the acc. I just think they're a level above everybody else in that league. Evidence being that they beat everybody else in that league by like 20 to 30. I think they win it convincingly with a full roster. Even shorthanded, they figure out a way to get it done. And then I believe Duke will be the number one overall seed in the NCAA tournament on selection Sunday. Let's go to the Big East. Who you got winning that one? It'll happen Midtown Manhattan, inside New York's Madison Square Garden.

[Matt Norlander]

It would be so disappointing if this was anything other than Huskies versus Johnny's on Saturday night for the Big east automatic bid and tournament championship. So I'm going To predict that we do get the one versus two. And I will say the Huskies narrowly win the rubber match and get it done and. And get that conference tournament championship. What about you?

[Gary Parrish]

Yeah, I don't. I don't know if I'm picking with my heart or my brain, but my heart says I don't want to watch anything in a championship game of the biggest tournament other than UConn, St. John's Pitino and Hurley. And I think UConn wins it. Obviously, St. John's beat them there earlier in the season. St. John's is your outright conference champion. But I do believe, if I'm being honest, that UConn is the better team. I know this might not be a true neutral court situation, but. But I think the Huskies bounce back from that regular season finale loss in Milwaukee, win the Big east tournament, and then get either a one seed or a two seed in the NCAA tournament. Let's go to the Big Ten. Who you got winning that one,

[Matt Norlander]

by the way? Yukon and St. John's the two most recent winners are the Big east tournament championship. St. John's last year, Yukon the year before. So it's another rubber match, quasi in that regard, in the Big Ten. I think we're going to have a little bit of chaos here. Not just, you know, who's playing in the title game, but I get a funky sense we're gonna have first day, second day, third day, some. Some decent noise there in Chicago. I'm gonna say Illinois and its offense, the number one offense in the country, finds a way to shoot itself into the title game and gets the win. And then, I mean, this is gonna. This is probably gonna age terribly. There is no reason why Purdue should make the title game with the way it's been playing. But I'm doing it. GP I will go Illinois over the Boilermakers on Sunday on CBS leading into the selection show. Oh, by the way, and if you have forgotten, Purdue and Illinois faced each other once this season. That was back in near the end of January. Illinois won on the road at Mackie. 88, 82.

[Gary Parrish]

This is one where. This is the one where I could see the most possible reasonable outcomes. My pick is Michigan. I'll take the one seed. I'll do it out of respect for them having a historically great Big Ten season. But if you told me Illinois won it, there's nothing crazy about that. If you told me Jeremy Fears and Tom Izzo figured out a way to get the trophy, I could see that Nebraska, like, I guess nobody just ever picks them to do Anything. But they keep winning and they are the 2 seed in this thing. Wisconsin has beaten 4 top 11 net teams 3 times on the row. By definition, if you can do that, you can beat anybody in any one particular game. And if you could do that, you can by definition win the Big Ten tournament. Purdue was still the preseason number one team. Had been playing like it lately, but crazier things have happened. And then like, you know, ucla, I know they're outside of the Pacific time zone. That's always problematic. But that's a team that I could just see you look up and we're all laughing like, look, look, mix in the semifinals, 40 minutes away from the championship game, complaining the entire time. I could see the Big Ten going any direction. I'll lean toward the one seed Michigan, Wolverines, Big 12. I think we're both the same. Here I went, Houston over the one seed Arizona. Tommy Lloyd, how many times he got to win before people believe he's going to win the next one too?

[Matt Norlander]

Yeah, no, that's, that's totally fair. We do agree. I'm heading out to Kansas City early on Wednesday morning, excited to experience this tournament and for in person for the first time ever. I know it. It's a destination event for so many fan bases and I'm eager to get there. I just think that the, the Big 12 Arizona has been the best team in the Big 12. That's inarguable at this point and it is extremely capable of doing what Michigan or Duke could do in its respective conference tournaments. But we got some real coaches, some real talent, some teams that are capable of making the final four in this conference outside of Arizona. And we never get a situation where the five high major tournaments all have the best team win. It just doesn't happen. Never. There will be non one seeds that win some of these and multiple conference tournaments will have non one seeds win it. So I will go with the Cougars to get this done in the title game in an epic over the Wildcats.

[Gary Parrish]

Yeah, so that's two, two seeds I've got winning conference tournaments. Yukon in the Big East, Houston in the Big 12. I will get back to the one seed in the SEC. I think Florida is the best team. I don't know that. I thought that through nine games, but it's crystal clear in my head on March 10, 2026, I think Todd Golden's team wins the SEC tournament and then they are the fourth number one seed in the NCAA tournament, joining Duke, Arizona and Michigan on the top line.

[Matt Norlander]

Well, I'll tell you what. I have Illinois winning the Big Ten, I have Purdue getting to the Big Ten title game and I've got Alabama winning the sec. Those are the three most efficient offenses in college basketball. And we'll see if Florida again. Florida does it as well. I won't be surprised. But Bama's got some real talent in that backcourt and the SEC typically does provide something of a, of a non one seed winner in its conference tournament. So I do like Alabama to, to be the one that, that pulls it out and get it done. I'm, I'm super excited and intrigued for this one because if Florida continues to steamroll, then yeah, be aware because they're going to be as, I think they'll be considered as likely as any other team to win the NCAA tournament. GP I've given you all my five winners. What do you notice about what's the pattern there? If you can pick it out real quick. Virginia, Yukon, Illinois, Houston, Bama. What do they all have in common?

[Gary Parrish]

I they all, they're all fine universities. I'd be happy for my sons to attend any of them.

[Matt Norlander]

They are all non one seeds. Your boy here is going to be wrong. There will be at least one seed that wins a high major tournament. I didn't do this intentionally. I realized that after the fact. I don't have a single top seeded team in any of the power conferences winning the conference tournament. So I will be wrong. It's just a matter of how badly.

[Gary Parrish]

Well, you're braver than I am. I took, I believe, three one seeds so you're braver than I am. We'll see how it all shakes out. Can't wait. Just a fun week of basketball. Can't wait to see how it unfolds because it almost always, regardless of, you know, whether you know where it's coming, it delivers some real memories. With that in mind, let's take a trip down memory lane. I got the email last night. Norlander said, hey, just off the top of your head, you think of championship week. What experiences do you remember? Immediately things started popping in my head. They're not all great. We'll talk about them next. It's the Ion College Basketball Podcast. We're here on CBS Sports Network. It is championship week. Welcome back to the I Own College Basketball podcast here on CBS Sports Network. Norlander sent the email last night. He said, hey, why don't at some point on CBS Sports Network we just sort of reminisce a little bit. Championship week memories, some of the things that stand out. So if you don't mind. I'm gonna let you start first. When you think of championship week conference tournaments, whether it's a one bid league or the big power conferences that are, you know, doing things in Kansas City or Midtown Manhattan, just whether it was as a fan or things you experienced, you know, in your professional life, things that stand out to you about this week, that always delivers for, for the sport.

[Matt Norlander]

Yeah, I could, quite literally, and I know we could do a 60 plus minute episode on this alone. We don't have that kind of time right now. I'm going to start with. I've got a few of them. But let's start with. I posted this on Twitter On Tuesday, 15 years ago today, my first season covering college basketball for CBS Sports, I was at the Garden. And for anyone watching right now on CBS Sports Network or after the fact on YouTube, this is my video. This is from press row. This is Kemba Walker, the most famous shot maybe in the history of the Big east tournaments over Gary McGee. You want to watch the. Go find the video on Twitter because you can hear the crowd before Kemba hits the shot. There is a roar of anticipation. This is the old Garden. I had my Android phone. I went to go upload this to YouTube, I want to say an hour later, and in my memory it took like 30 minutes to upload an 80 second video. Back in 2011, this was a seminal moment for me. This was unforgettable. This was obviously the run where UConn would win the national title. They would go on to win five games in five days and win the Big east title. On a personal note, I remember both after this game, but also after UConn won that big east tournament, Kemba did the press conference and then there was a media gaggle and there were 20 press reporters around him. And that lasted a good, I want to say at least 15 minutes. And I was kind of lingering on the outside and I still had my phone and, and I was Even back then, 15 years ago, we were doing some, some video stuff for the blog for, for, for the ion college basketball blog, real ones know. And Kemba looked exhausted. He had done so much media five days in a row, five wins in five days, the whole deal. And I was gonna let him go. And then he saw me. He's like, nah, man, I'm good, we can talk. And he gave me like another two, three minutes. I'll never forget that. I will. It was a very impressionable moment on me as a, as a young reporter at the time. So I have more, but I'LL send it back to you real quick. I don't know if you remember where you were, but as we do this segment Today, we are 15 years to the day and we're about an hour away from literally 15 years to the moment.

[Gary Parrish]

I believe I was watching it on tv, getting ready to travel to wherever I was traveling to. But it is an all time great college basketball moment that provided a precursor for what was about to come. When you look back on the accolades connected to that season, he's not the national player of the year. He is not, you know, decorated in that way because a lot of that voting happens in advance of the NCAA tournament. But what he did in midtown Manhattan followed up by what he did in the NCAA tournament, like legend forever UConn at the final Four a few years ago, Kimba came and kicked it with us on set, CBS Sports Network. And like, that's a Real Living UConn leg walking around. That's an all time great moment. The first one that popped in the head for me, it's actually not a great one, but it's a another moment that I think any college basketball fan remembers. If you were watching in that time, 2000 Conference USA tournament in downtown Memphis, inside the pyramid, the best team in the country, Cincinnati. The best player in the country is Kenya Martin and he breaks his leg inside the pyramid and is done for the season. Cincinnati is removed from the NCAA tournament earlier than anybody would have otherwise anticipated. Michigan State wins that national championship. I asked Bob Huggins one time, do you ever think of, you ever wonder what would have happened if Kenyon didn't break his leg? And he said no. And I said, really? Like, why do you, like I've wondered what happens if Kenyon didn't break his leg. He said, I don't have to wonder. I know what would have happened. We would have won the national championship. No way we were losing with that guy in that tournament. And so you just. The whole history of college basketball could be shaped differently because that is the year Tom Izzo gets his only national championship. If Hugs is certain it would have been his, then Izzo might be still looking for his first. How about this, though? Quick story. Within the past week, my little guy, 9 year old comes to me. He said, dad, you ever been to Cozy Corner? It's a little barbecue shop here in downtown Memphis, kind of down by St. Jude. I said, of course I've been to Cozy Corner. What do you ask me about Cozy Corner for? He said, I'd like to go. I said, why do you Want to go to Cozy Corner? Have you even heard of this? He said, I show who's a streamer came to Memphis. And I said, yeah, I heard about that. He said, and I went to Cozy Corner and I saw it on YouTube and now I would like to go to Cozy Corner. I said, okay, it's spring break this week. I'm not going back to New York till Wednesday. Why don't on Tuesday you come to the studio with me, Just kick it and after the show we'll go to Cozy Corner just like speed, and you'll get that experience. He said, okay, fine. At some point, my middle guy got invited to go to spring break lake trip with one of his buddies. At some point, my little guy now feeling like he's left out. So my wife says, hey, why don't we go show? Because if you don't. If you don't know this, this is true. She said, hey, why don't we go stay at the Bass Pro Pyramid? Because the thing that used to be a basketball arena is now a Bass pro shop with a hotel and a bowling alley and all that stuff. She said, why don't we just go stay there, go bowling, have a dinner, and then wake up on Tuesday, you do the show and then we'll go to Cozy Corner? I said, perfect. And so I found myself last night, swear this is true, sitting in the pyramid on the 26th anniversary to the day that Kenyon Martin broke his leg in the pyramid right down there by where they're trying to sell them four wheelers for $10,000. That's a real Monday night experience for me. That's a real thing that happened. Kenyon Martin, broken leg. Changed college basketball history perhaps forever. You got another one.

[Matt Norlander]

You've got another one, though. Another not so good one, right? Cusa. What year did Washington. Darius Washington miss the foul shots? That's another. That's a big one. It's not a good one, but it's a big one.

[Gary Parrish]

So these are famous ones, like two of the most famous college basketball conference tournament moments in modern history. Both come from Conference USA in downtown Memphis. Different buildings. Kenyon Martin at the pyramid. Darius Washington at FedEx Forum. Memphis had an up and down season. I'm the beat writer for that team. John Calipari's Tigers. They make it to the championship game of the Conference USA tournament, but they are not an at large candidate. If they win it, they punch a ticket. If they lose it, they go to the nitrogen. Darius Washington gets fouled. The Tigers are down two zeros on the Clock. He's at the free throw line by himself. You make all three, you go to the NCAA tournament. You make two, you go to overtime, you make one. That's not going to be enough. He made the first. Just got to make one of the next two to get to overtime. Make the next two, you're in the tournament. He missed them both. Collapsed on the court, covered his head because his dad had always told him, if you're ever gonna cry, son, you don't show your face. His instincts were to cover his head so nobody could see those tears. And to this day, that is the hardest basketball moment I've ever watched. That didn't involve an injury, that didn't involve like an Achilles or a torn dcl. This young man just crushed, feeling like he just let a whole city down. And yeah, I was courtside for that. It happened. It happened here. I'm in FedEx form right now. It happened right here. It was. That's a. That was. That was a tough one.

[Matt Norlander]

You want to know how this is,

[Gary Parrish]

how famous it is? I think you were about to say it if you want to know how famous.

[Matt Norlander]

Yeah.

[Gary Parrish]

Fish the band has a song about this month, VT. Fish the band has a song about this moment.

[Matt Norlander]

Same way, same wavelength, buddy. That's exactly correct. A band from Vermont that. That moment transcended sports so much that Fish wrote a song about it called the Line on an album that came out about a decade after that moment happened. I know you got one more. I've got a few. But I'll throw it back to you one more time because we are in the midst of a, of a team that is having an undefeated season and it's going to try and get to a flawless record going into selection Sunday. And the last time that happened with a true and outright mid major GP was actually in the building.

[Gary Parrish]

So I was thinking about this last night. I actually did this in back to back years. It didn't occur to me in real time, but when I looked at it. So I was at the 2014 Missouri Valley Conference tournament. Fred Van Vliet, Ron Baker, they win that in St. Louis. Arch Madness to complete a 34, 0 record heading into the NCAA tournament. They ultimately end up against Kentucky In a classic 1 versus 8 game, I believe also in St. Louis. And I was courtside for that one. Kentucky wins at Wichita. Season ends there, I think at 35 and 1. But I got to watch them win a conference tournament. Still have a zero in the loss column. And then the next March I did the same thing in Nashville, Kentucky. I went to the SEC tournament. They win that event to finish34.0 on their way to the NCAA tournament. They of course lose eventually in the final four to Wisconsin. But in back to back years 14 and 15, I watched undefeated conference tournament champions, whole trophies. That was. That's always a neat thing.

[Matt Norlander]

That's good stuff. This is a CBS Sports Network TV show one hour long. So we are unfortunately are tighter today than we need to be. But I've got a couple that I want to say here and then we'll, we'll get out of this block. Speaking like I've gone to the Big east almost every single year for the past 15, 16 years. But before I was at CBS 2009, I was running an independent website, College Hoops Journal. That's the Syracuse UConn 6 overtime game. I applied for a credential, got told no for the site. I show up anyway, try and talk my way in. I can't. One of my best buds that went to Syracuse couldn't get a ticket that day. Literally watch six overtimes in the bar right across the street from the Garden. The ultimate bittersweet experience. That's an epic one. Isaiah Thomas hitting the three Gus Johnson on the call on CBS 2010 Pac 12 title game. Incredible stuff here. This was. You got Lorenzo Romar coaching Washington, Sean Miller, a young Sean Miller coaching Arizona. That was a really good Arizona team back at a time when Washington was a factor. If you're watching right now, you can see this is actually the play here when Isaiah Thomas hits this shot to win it at the horn. Incredible moment. One of the better buzzer beaters that we've seen at the high major conference tournament level. The 2008 SEC tournament, which if anyone young is listening or watching this and was say, say you were born at 2000 or later a tornado hit the area. They had to relocate the tournament. And that might not have been the wildest thing because Georgia was 13 and 16 going into that tournament, won four in a row, including two overtime games, and became the only power conference team to be a 14 seed or worse in the tournament because it did not have the resume to justify being on the 12 line, 11 line or the 13 line. That was crazy. That was insane back in OA. And then I have to go to one more. It's one of the classic ones and it's Randolph Childress and the crossover on Jeff McGinness in the 1995 ACC tournament. And it's not just because that's an amazing moment and that highlight populates our social media feeds every, every time this year, as it should, the conference tournament week when I was and I could really wax nostalgic on this for 15 minutes, but I'll be abbreviated. I didn't, I went to school, I went to, I grew up in Vermont. So like I know ACC tournament time in the Carolinas, in that part of the country, you know, they brought out the TV and showed the tournament on the TVs there. That's what I did with, with the NCAA tournament when I was in middle school, conference tournament, that wasn't a thing. So I stayed home sick, quote unquote sick to watch the ACC tournament in sixth, seventh, eighth grade. And it was this particular week that really did instill a real passion and love for college basketball that kind of put me on the path that I am now. So I have a particular fondness for not just 90s hoops, but like the conference tournaments in the 90s and there's third and fourth year players and that childress highlight is one of the marquee long lasting non NCAA tournament march highlights in the history of college basketball. So I think you can make the case that this week is as good and as appealing as the first week of the tournament. GP there's more games being played. There's more teams that are playing with their seasons on the line. There are all these automatic bids, all these big happy moments that are happening. I think it's a very, very close race. I still slightly favor the actual Big Dance, but it's about as close for me as possible.

[Gary Parrish]

I still favor the actual big Dance as well, but memories are made in this week annually. I can't wait to see which ones we get made as it unfolds. When we come back, let's turn our attention to the National Coach of the Year race. I don't think it's clear cut. Sometimes it is in my mind, at least at this point in the season. I think you can make reasonable arguments for a lot of different people. We'll see where Norlander and I land. We'll do that next. It's the Iowa College Basketball Podcast. We're on CBS Sports Network.

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[Gary Parrish]

Welcome back to the Ion College Basketball podcast here on CBS Sports Network. The National Coach of the Year race has been interesting from start till now. I still don't believe we have a clear cut favorite, but some people have emerged as obvious. Can Norlander, I know you put together a list of five. Why don't you run us through that and I'll tell you when you're done if you've got the guy. I would name National Coach of the Year on your list in this moment.

[Matt Norlander]

All right, for those listening, I'm going to go five to one. So at five and I think this is a five with some, a little bit of a line after this, although you can easily debate a few more names outside of this. I've got Fred Hoiberg at 5 at Nebraska. What he has done has been outstanding and I still think he's got a shot. We won't even name our coach of the year at CBS Sports until once we know the Final Four field after the end of the elite. I've got Horberg at 5. I've got Dusty May at Michigan at 4. Did a great job in year one, but then, you know, he brought in Jaxa, Lindenborg and a lot of really important key pieces. Adai Mara is three times the player that he was at ucla. I've got Tommy Lloyd at Arizona at three. He is as freshman dependent as anyone in the country and it's working. And obviously led by Jaden Bradley, the key veteran there. We've seen what Arizona can do. He also is playing a particular style that's not similar to a lot of other teams that are, you know, vying for that 1, 2 and 3 line. I've got Shire at number two at Duke, lost five starters to the NBA and has the number one overall seed. Part of the job of a coach is to recruit and build the roster. I think he's two and then right now if, if we had to put our vote in right now. Yes, I'm sorry, it's, I don't know if we'll ever see it again. I would give Travis Steele the coach of the year at this point, right this very second because they are undefeated, they couldn't get anyone to schedule them in. Non con still had to do it. And as Evan Miyakawa posted a few days ago, a 1 and 3740 chance in the preseason that Miami University would get to 31 and oh, those are longer odds than Any of the coaches sitting in my two, three, four or five spots with their respective records.

[Gary Parrish]

I will not argue against any of these coaches. You could hand any of them the CBS Sports National Coach of the Year award right now. If we were handing it out right now. And I would not insist that we have made a mistake. Any of those people are worthy winners. You've got four conference champions and one conference runner up. And oddly, we didn't talk about this at all in advance. The person I would give the trophy to is the one of the group that did not win a conference championship. I would name Fred Hoiberg the national coach.

[Matt Norlander]

Wow.

[Gary Parrish]

At Nebraska. And this is why if you take any of the other four and ask me if I could have imagined this happening, I acknowledge with Miami Ohio, the answer is no. Because you never imagine anybody really going to 31 0, 340 before selection Sunday if they get there. But can I imagine a team never losing? Can I imagine a good team that returns for the top 5 scores from a 25 win team? Can I imagine that team not losing against a schedule that rates 340th according to the net? If you frame it like that, yeah, I could see that. Unlikely. As it is, I'm not arguing with the numbers you just suggested. I'm just saying there are people right now out there, let me put it this way, who say Miami, Ohio. Really, they have beat anybody. There are people out there who are dismissive of this story. I think they're crazy. But you know who they are. All right, so let's just. Let's just put it that way. There are people dismissive of the Miami Ohio story. I'm about to get to a story nobody's dismissive of. There are still people dismissive of Miami, Ohio, Duke. Can I imagine Duke having the best team in the country? Yeah, that's not hard to imagine. They usually have the best roster. They've got the best player for the second straight year. John Shire, given the ACC Coach of the Year Award, given the National Coach of the Year Award. I'm fine with it. But it's not hard for me to imagine Duke being excellent. Same thing with Michigan, same thing with Arizona. It's impossible to imagine Nebraska being 26 and 5 overall. 15, 5 in the Big Ten alone. In second in the Big Ten standings after being picked 14th. The only power conference program that's never won a game in the NCAA tournament, now in a position to certainly secure a two seat in the tournament. And like, who knows, if they were to go win the Big Ten tournament. What's happening in Lincoln? Unimaginable, unprecedented. And that's the place I would hand the trophy to. You wouldn't argue with me, would you?

[Matt Norlander]

No. You have a very good case and a Hoiberg I think has a real, real shot here before we get out of the end of the season. I think he has to be at minimum on the top five. And if he can win a Big Ten tournament championship like the case bolsters all the more for sure.

[Gary Parrish]

As a reminder, we don't hand out Coach of the Year at CBS Sports until after the Elite Eight games. So still a ways to go. And any of the people in that list of Norlander's top five could emerge as the CBS Sports National Coach of the Year. Look forward to seeing it play out. We come back, we'll talk about the other side of this profession. You know, where things can get a little dicey. The carousel is spinning. What's going to happen at Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati? I think we know at Arizona State we'll dive into some coaching carousel stuff next. I own college basketball podcast CBS Sports Network. Welcome back. I own college basketball podcasts. We're here on CBS Sports Network. Coaching carousel is spinning four jobs. I want to ask you about Norlander. I think we know what's happening at Arizona State with Bobby Hurley. Now, Arizona State, Cincinnati, Pitt, Syracuse. Run us through those four jobs.

[Matt Norlander]

Yeah. And actually as we're on the air here live, Arizona State, the Fighting Hurleys, they might be able to get past Baylor. We'll see what happens and if they can survive another day. But Hurley's coaching on the last year of his contract. You know, when that contract didn't get renewed a year ago, I think everyone kind of understood the arrangement there. So there is expected to be a change there. All these teams are in action today, by the way. So we wait and see if we have real movement by the end of the night. By tomorrow morning, Syracuse has SMU in the ACC tournament. The expectation is that job is going to open. Red Autry took over for Jim Boeheim. John Wildhack is the outgoing athletic director. I've been told that Wild Hack has has made contact with some potential coaching candidates there. They still haven't even hired their sitting new athletic director. The plan as of recently as a week ago was that it would be done literally by two day March 10th still hasn't happened as we as we're on the air here. So we'll see if they can get that done later on this week. Cincinnati, I think if West Miller Makes the tournament, he definitely keeps his job. If he doesn't, do we have a black and white situation? Make it, you're in. Miss it, you're out. It really might come down to that. Cincinnati's gonna have to make a real run here just to have a chance to get into the NCAAs. Is that large? Case is definitely outside looking in. Bearcats have Utah to start the Big 12 tournament. You cannot lose that. You cannot lose that game if you're Wes Miller for sure. And then Pittsburgh. Jeff Capel has only made one NCAA tournament since he's been there. As we're about to go off the air, Pit will play Stanford, a Stanford team that is fighting to get into the tournament. And every indication there is that although it is going to be extremely expensive and there's still a slight chance that they need to hold on to Capel for another year, people in the industry are banking on Pit coming open, you know, not long after pit seasons end. So we'll see there. I have a quick one to throw back at you because those are four that are. We are bracing to come open. We've already got some other ones. Georgia Tech, Boston College. You know, Providence isn't officially open, but I previously reported like that's going to come open once Providence seasons ends. So we're going to have some movement. I don't think we're going to have a top 20 job that comes open. Although never say never. Like, weird stuff happens. So I'm open to the idea that we get a shocker out of nowhere, as always, wait and see. But right now I think the best job that is poised to open is Syracuse. And then after that you might say Cincinnati. But I almost wonder where does Memphis fall in this hierarchy in gp? I'm going to do the double for you. Do you think it will open? Do you think it should open? I know we're tight on time here, but that's the one that I keep hearing. I could see it. Nah, it's Penny Hardaway. He should probably be safe for another year. They just made the tournament last year as a five seed. What say you?

[Gary Parrish]

I've spent hours on this, as you know. I'll try to summarize this one in a couple of minutes. Wherever the Memphis job ranks in 2026, it is not where it used to rank. It is a lesser job because the league is not what it used to be. It's now the 10th best league in the country. The neighborhood around Memphis has fallen apart and it has made it more difficult than it used to be to effectively run the Memphis basketball program. Either way, the team should never be tied for eighth in the American. And so this has been a disaster. Here's the truth. I, I don't think it's going to open. I think Penny Hardaway will get a year nine. Here is also the truth. Nobody on this planet other than Penny Hardaway would get a Year 9 at the University of Memphis under these circumstances. The truth, anybody not named Penny Hardaway would have been moved out years ago. The truth, anybody not named Penny Hardaway if they made it this far, would be moved after this season. But he is Penny Hardaway and it does matter and he is different. And if you don't get that, you just, just don't understand what it's like to live here and grow up here and be here. I have totally reasonable friends who are die hard Memphis fans and they know this thing is bad. But if they moved on Penny right now, those people would say, I can't believe you gave up on my favorite player one year after he won a conference championship. Right now. It would not be a completely popular decision. Why do you want to pay 6 million dollar buyout to fracture your fan base, alienate your most famous alum to hire the next coach? You don't even know who that's going to be. Here's the truth. They bring him back and you just say, we have now set standards. We're going to hire him a general manager. We are going to surround him with people who can help him. We are going to once again give him more money than anybody else in his league to roster, build and next year he will either win a conference championship and go to the NCAA tournament and get a year 10 or we will all know we gave this thing every opportunity we could to work and it just didn't and it's time to move on. What would be a very hard decision for the athletic director, Ed Scott, right now becomes an easier decision if you just push it to next March. And I think that's what they're going to do and I completely understand it. When we come back, we'll wrap it up here on the Ion College Basketball Podcast, CBS Sports Network work. Welcome back to the Ion College Basketball Podcast here on CBS Sports Network. The next time you see any of us, it ain't going to be with these same backgrounds. We both hitting the road. Norlander, you're off to Kansas City, Big 12 tournament, that right.

[Matt Norlander]

I'm very excited. I'll leave early Wednesday, get on the ground there. I'll be there in time for that first tip on Wednesday. Going to see that glass court in person. Excited about that figure. I'll be writing about it. And yeah, I'll be podcasting, broadcasting from Casey later on this week before getting back home in time for selection Sunday at the HQ Studios.

[Gary Parrish]

All right, well, you make sure to to tell Travis and Taylor that I said hello. Meantime, I'll be popping up to New York. I'll be in studio CBS Sports Network Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, of course. And in the meantime, we'll have a new episode of the ION college basketball podcast coming to YouTube on Wednesday. So make sure to to be prepared for that. Appreciate you guys being here. Shouts to Devin Downey, we will talk to you again real soon. Till then, take care. Paramount Podcasts.

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