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Eye On College Basketball
Florida rips control of SEC from Vandy + Kentucky flips its season; TTU shuts down AJ Dybantsa; Darryn Peterson =🔥; UNC = 😬; power-ranking Big Ten
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Minutes a week thinking about football. That's over 11 hours.
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You're checking matchups, tweaking your fantasy roster, reliving big plays, arguing calls. Football lives rent free in your head all week long. And when the game's on, every decision matters. A winning play or the right timeout. Just 60 seconds can flip the entire outcome.
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But here's the thing.
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Off the field, we forget to plan.
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We get so caught up in the.
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Pregame hype, the food, the drinks, the vibe and forget the most important part of the day, how you're getting home. And you put serious time into your tailgate, your outfit, your playlist. So why not give just one minute to plan a safe ride? Whether you're hosting, heading to a local bar or going to the game, make.
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It part of your ritual.
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There I am. Gary Parish welcome back CBS Sports. I own college basketball podcast where we sometimes discuss Campbell Fighting Dodo Birds and Leaky Black. Matt Norlander is here with me. If you're watching on YouTube be Brandon Davies. Smash a little bit. If you haven't already, subscribe to the I Own College Basketball Podcast. Please do that wherever you subscribe to podcasts like Apple and Spotify. Let's get into it. I want to start in the SEC where the reigning national champions put off the most, I think notable result of the weekend. Final score number 19 Florida 98 number 10 Vanderbilt 94. It happened inside Memorial. The Gators are now 8 and 1 in their past nine games. Kim Palm now projects them to win the SEC by multiple games. Norlander it's good to see you on this Sunday morning. I'll be rooting for your bears tonight, I promise. The result in Nashville this weekend, does that say more about Florida or does it suggest that possibly just maybe. I mean you never know, but sometimes does it suggest that perhaps Vanderbilt could be what has. They could be a computer. A computer tricker. You think Vander Vanderbilt's a computer tricker?
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Oh, breaking out the computer trick or terminology. I think for the first time this season on the show. By the way, it is, it's great to be with you. Super snowy Sunday morning up here in Connecticut and I love a brunch podcast. We don't tip on a weekend in the early morning. This is a rarity. But as previously discussed, anyone who's hopping on live, we appreciate you Bears later, obviously. Also my wife's birthday. So we got presents to do and.
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Happy a bunch of people supposed to come over. Happy birthday to your beautiful wife. I hope you guys have the best day you can have.
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Well, that will be dependent on a certain score of a certain game later, but it has been an awesome start. I will be shoveling the driveway before we get to the football a little bit later.
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That is something I've never done. Literally something I've never done, never thought about doing. This is where we realize we live in two different places. You are going to do something today that I have never done, will almost certainly never do and have never even considered. I wouldn't even know where to start.
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Well, it's really not that hard where to start when it comes to shoveling a driveway. You pick up the shovel and you.
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No, that's not where I start. I start with a text message to one of my buddies. Here's what the text message says, man. You know anybody who knows how to shovel driveways? That's how. That's where I start. I start right there.
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I've been vacillating on the, on the snowblower situation for years. I haven't bit the bullet yet. Hopefully, hopefully someday soon that will not be today. You got two young kids who are capable. We'll get that done eventually. Let's talk hoops here.
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Kids who are capable of doing stuff.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I asked my kids to do something and they sometimes do it sometimes.
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So holy Jesus Christ. Let's talk about that off air. How'd you figure that out exactly?
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Wow. I think the, the Kentucky Tennessee result and the Florida vanity result are 1A, 1B. But let's, let's start in Nashville. That, that's a significant one. And yes, it did seem to to have swung the SEC race. We'll see if that proves to be, you know, six, seven weeks down the road. But you know, Todd Golden, I've mentioned this on the pot a couple of times here, but I got to see them at the Jimmy V when they lost to UConn and they lost close. So let's, let's rewind just a little bit here at that point. Florida 5 and 4 overall and ranking among the two or three most disappointing teams in the sport for through the first six weeks of the season with the caveat that the losses came against Arizona out West, against Duke at Duke against Yukon at Store south, and then a neutral site loss by four to a TCU team that's been wonky. But that's the one obviously bad loss since then. Since then. By the way, my mother is FaceTiming me right now. Mom, not now. She doesn't realize I'm podcasting. She wants to talk Bears. That's what she wants to do. That's exactly, exactly why she is FaceTiming me right now.
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That's actually sweet. That doesn't bother me at all. That's the sweetest thing in the world.
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World.
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The. The one that agitates me. Not this because like we're just at a random time right now, but like I have been hosting a show for years that starts at 10am Central and I'll just have random like friends just be like texting me non stop like right in the middle. I'm like, I don't expect. I know you're not obligated to listen to the show but like you shouldn't you be aware of when it happens before you text?
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Yeah, that's sometimes. Yeah. I if it's between 11am and 11am Eastern and 1pm Eastern, unless it's an emergency. I'm never, I'm never texting you, let alone calling you. That's.
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That's the way I wish everybody in my life was. I wish everybody in my life were exactly like you.
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Thank you. That's the best that I can. Best that I can ask for, hopefully. My wife says the same thing later today. Probably will not. She definitely will not when I'm responding like a lunatic in the middle of the second quarter of. Of Bears ramps. Okay, so Florida has 8 and 1 since it was 5 and 4 and now has the 11th ranked offense and defense as of this morning. Here continues to be an elite rebounding team. This was a, this was a terrific game. Now there's some there is some semi controversial stuff. Nothing compared to the way obviously Bill's Broncos ended on Saturday. But you had a seven point play in the second half, which you almost never see in college basketball. It was because you had room in Chinili. I want to get to him in a second. He got a board, was fouled on the put back, made it. And then there was a hook and hold which led to more free throws because of the, because of the technical foul. And then Thomas how Kit had a three pointer. So they had one possession where they got seven points. Now there was a hook and hold that wasn't called into the game against Xavian Lee, which to me looked like letter of the law, probably should have been. It wasn't. Those two plays were the deciding factors in the game. You know, if you're a Vandy fan and you're a little, a little ticked, I completely understand that. But Florida also played well enough clearly to win the game. Xavian Lee probably had his best game in a Florida uniform, by the way, wearing number 99 because they left without some of their jerseys. You had Xavian Lee wearing 99. Micah Hand logged in wearing 34. That's not his number. Boogie Flan wearing 33. That's not his number. So now Florida fans are saying, they're saying to X, you cannot wear any other number but 99 moving forward. I would actually love if he did that. Remains to be seen if that'll be the case. Florida is now put, put up 90 plus points GP in seven of his last eight games and I'll talk about Chin Liu in a second. But this was very impressive and I think it is, I think it is fair to say Florida is in the catbird seat for the SEC race. Doesn't mean they'll get there. But stepped up big in a tough spot on the road and handed Vanderbilt after a really, really hot start for the doors here. GP for, for, for the Gators to do that and then basically give Andy a second straight loss in somewhat unexpected fashion. Mighty impressive stuff.
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Xavian Lee had 20 points. That was notable. He was good. I, I do, you know, think it's important to point out that he had four the previous game. So the idea that like he's turned some corner and figured it out, like we'll see, but he was good on Saturday. As for the hook and hold, I'm open to the debate about whether that specific thing should qualify as like the worst thing you can do in a college basketball game because that's the way it's refereed. I'm open to like, because I saw some folks on Twitter, like, you know, sometimes people just get tangled up.
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Right, right.
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And like, it shouldn't be like, oh, buddy, can you believe what this dirty player did? Sometimes it's not as dirty as it is, just you get tangled up. But we treat it like it's the dirtiest thing in the world every time. That aside, I mean, what happened in the final, like, I don't know how you can watch that, look at the rulebook and not say hook and hold. I mean, how did you interpret this?
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I did. I actually, I thought that they were going to call it against him. Did not. Sometimes that can be up for some interpretation. I get it. But particularly with the context of what happened earlier with the hook and hold. I was just expecting it to be called. It was not. And it did provide, you know, that extra buffer for Florida to get out of there with the win. And I thought was, was frankly crucial and critical there in that spot. So I think that context is necessary to discussing and recapping this game. It goes in Florida's favor. But I am going to repeat what I just said. I mean, Florida did play well enough to win. It's not like the call alone is what got the Gators to win. No, no, no. They played really well in the second half. It was a very, very. I know that that call is frustrating, but a relatively well played game. Vandy, for whatever reason, tends to get, has gotten involved in some, some high foul affairs this season. But for the most part, I thought this was a, was a pretty enjoyable game to watch. Both teams scored at high clips. I mean, Florida was at 1.35 points per possession. Vandy at 1.29. Anytime you get two teams above 1.20 PPP in a game, that is, that is good, good stuff there. So I enjoyed it. We had, you know, 38 total fouls. It wasn't all that bad. But yes, Florida did go 25 of 30 from the foul line and Vandy went 20 of 22 from the charity stripe. That's obviously going to inflate your points per possession numbers.
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I thought it was a fun watch, particularly down the stretch. Like, I know Tyler Tanner didn't make the plays at the end, but like in the final eight minutes he was making, you know, one big basket after another. I don't know if those are the two best teams in the sec, but if we get to the end and, and it looks that way, that wouldn't surprise me. But you mentioned Florida getting off to that 5 and 4 start since then. If you sort the data over bartorvic.com I know you know how to do that. If you sort it from December 13th, Florida would be fifth in the country right now with an 8 and 1 record. Want to guess who would be first? By the way, I just noticed it because I did it to look at Florida, and I was like, okay, that's not surprising, but interesting. Florida would be fifth with an 81 record since 1213. Who would be first?
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All right, give me three guesses here. My guess one is Houston.
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That's right. Bing, bing, bing, bing. Houston 70 record. Houston would be number one since 1213. You know, a few weeks ago, I think on this pod, I said, listen, forget don't look at the top 25 and 1. I mean, please do look at the top 25 and 1. Double click it if you can. But that aside, if I just had to pick a national champion right now, I would pick Houston. And among the reasons was they are one of the teams that is already clearly awesome and reliant heavily on a couple of freshmen. And you gotta expect that growth to happen, and it will. And like, even Kelvin, when he talks about his team, he's like, you know, he just. You could tell he loves his team. And it was unsurprising to me to see that they've been trending upward since they still get that one loss. But it's just one loss. But that keeps them behind is, you know, at least in the rankings, some of the. Some of the undefeated teams. Anyway. Houston 7 and OH would be number one since 1213, followed by Illinois. Interesting. Arizona at 3, Purdue at 4, and then Florida at 5, followed by Virginia, Michigan, Iowa, Nebraska, and then Yukon. That would be your top 10 since December 13th. In other words, past five weeks, Florida has been great. Third in the country in offensive efficiency since that stretch. Just a reminder. I know this. I say this a few times a show, perhaps, but the college basketball season is. Is long and there can be a lot of twists and turns. And if you start giving up or counting out a team that's five and four, just don't ever remember that. You could look up, you know, five weeks later, and they look like a legitimate national championship contender.
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Correct. I want to get to Kentucky, Tennessee, but one more thing on this is Rubiciniliu, in his last three games, 18.7 points, 12.7 rebound, shooting better than 73 from the field, has been a monster. Hauk is the team's best player. He had 18 this game. But Lee and Chinliu each had 20 a piece. And if you watch the game, really, if you've watched any of this stuff, it, you know, there's a lot of causation with how he is playing and how Florida has responded. Extremely impressive. If he's going to be a lot of that and let alone Lee, you know, Lee was 8 of 13 from the field, had three triples in the game. Yes, the Florida is going to win the sec. We'll see if it can sustain it. You didn't even you haven't even needed Boogie Flan to be a top 10 guard in the country or anything close to that amid all this change. So there's still even a higher ceiling to what we have here. Golden insisted that this was going to be the case. He really did truly believe it after that UConn loss. And he has proven to be right to this point. So it's Florida. 1 Vandy 2 and then there's a lot to sort out afterward in the sec. So let's transition right now to the game that happened in Knoxville because Kentucky wins 80 to 78 at Tennessee without Jalen Lowe, without Jaden Quaintance. Surprised? Yeah, I was surprised. We obviously both picked Tennessee to win and to cover on the Friday edition of the show. Kentucky has now developed a pattern. Three in a row is a pattern. It has been down 12 or more in three straight games and won all of those games. That has not happened in nine seasons. Down last Saturday, early, it was early, but it was still 12, 186 against Mississippi State, down 18 at LSU, comes back some wins, comes back to win and then was down 17 on the road in Knoxville Saturday and got it done. One big reason didn't hit double digit turnovers. JP Only nine giveaways there. The other thing that I found interesting was Jacoby Gillespie and Nate Amen. They combined for 41 points for the most part. They had pretty solid games and good outings. And what you want if you're a Tennessee fan and what you're trying to resist if you're on the Kentucky end, but no one really did much of anything else on the Tennessee end. Now, it was a really compelling game. It was a good game. Tennessee, unfortunately has just not been able to knock off Kentucky more times than not. I think they're now one in six in their past seven games when these two teams meet in Knoxville. Denzel Aberdeen was crucial in the second half. Again, he finishes with 22. I thought Kentucky having three guys come off the bench to have double figure to combine for 36 points was also Critical there. Your thoughts on, on Mark Pope and the season swing that has happened here. Because the LSU win was one thing and I think there was, you know, credit to the comeback, but also there was some elements of luck in that. This was not that. This was outright determination and just pushing and pushing and pushing in many spots where if you checked in in the first half of that game or second half, you'll be like, that's it. Like, you know, what can you do? You get the win early in the week, but this is a tough spot. Tennessee's a ranked team. No, Tennessee should not be ranked. I thought it said just as much about the falls, frankly, as it did about Kentucky. Your thoughts on the game?
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Let me make sure I don't have Tennessee ranked in the top 25.
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I don't think they did. They're not a top 25 team in the country right now. You might have them ranked. That's not one of the 25 best teams. Not after this.
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They're out. I moved them out. You, you can, you can, you can take back your scolding. I have moved the balls out of the top 25 and 1. As of Sunday morning. I believe that Florida's win at Vanderbilt was the most notable result of the weekend. I don't think anybody in college basketball had a better week than Mark Pope. Yeah, it's like, I don't want to get hyperbolic, but a life changing week, I mean, it could be on some level. You and I agree his job should not be on the line in year two. We don't believe it's on the line in year two. But you and I saying that is not going to stop a Kentucky fan from tweeting it. You and I saying that is not going to stop a Kentucky friend, like thousands of them, from making Mark Pope's life difficult. You know, I don't want to joke around about it because I know he wasn't being literal. But like, you know, he said the words. You know what he said? Like, it's, it can get really ugly there very quickly. Even if you were the captain of a national championship team once upon a time. Don't ever forget that. Tubby Smith was like, you know what? I'll just go coach at Minnesota.
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All right.
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It got to that point, he was just like, I guess I'm moving to Minneapolis. They were like, tubby, it's cold. He was like, yeah, but. And like John Caliperi also was like, you know what? Maybe I should just move to Fayetteville. It can get really where multiple Men like a Hall of Famer and a borderline hall of Famer who were still in possession of the job, said, I, I gonna take another job because this has gotten bad. That's the Kentucky job. Nothing better when it's great. But oh, buddy, if it's not. And you, you win at the buzzer at LSU, come from 18 down and then it's not a buzzer beater situation here, but it was like a boom. And it's just the game's over and who won? Because I've been watching this whole thing. You were never supposed to win this thing. It didn't look like. Or at least for a while, it didn't look like it. And then, boom, you flip it. Come from 17 down. I didn't get Kentucky back into the top 25 and one this morning. They're still just four and six in the first two quadrants. But buddy, you think about where they could be right now. You think about what we. And forget us what cat's paws or whatever it is. You think about what they'd be talking about this morning as opposed to what we are actually talking about this morning. I don't. It's not even close. Mark Pope had an incredible week.
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The win percentage per Ken Palm, was that in favor 75% or better and frankly a lot better in favor of Tennessee until the final two minutes of the game when Kentucky flipped it. And I mean, I was watching a ton up here. I had Kentucky on the, on the, on the main screen and then I had a quad box. So Shaman and Billis on the call. I want to say that when Kentucky took the lead with like 30 seconds to go, it was the first lead of the game for them. Which also would make sense why the, why the percentage flipped heavily in its favor and just didn't quit. You know, Kentucky, if you're not gonna have low, we wait and see on acquaintances availability period, moving forward. Like anything can happen in the tournament. But I was wrong about this team. Probably not a Final Four team, but you. As the season progresses and evolves and your expectations shift and the context that comes with every additional result comes in, there can be some real reasons for genuine optimism and wins. And Pope kind of spoke to this a little bit in the post game yesterday with some of his comments as well. If Kentucky can find a way to fight itself, Kentucky fans, I ask you blatantly, bluntly, right now, I give you a six seed in the NCAA Tournament right now. Are you taking a six seed or are you chanting every other possible result? Could Be better. Very well, could be worse. I think most Kentucky fans would take the six right now. And if you can get to that with everything considered and everything that's happened, I think that's a huge, huge win they get. Speaking of wins, they get them on the road here this week, which is also crucial. Next two games, home against Texas, home against Ole Miss, before on the road against Vandy in Arkansas. So the next four, if you can go two and two, you'll be treading water just fine. Really, really impressive stuff. And then briefly on Tennessee, like, it's just, there's just something about the team that I just don't trust. Amen's a really good talent. He's come on as of late. Gillespie can really, you know, Gillespie is a fun player. The, the, the cast around him. I don't know, man. I've just, I've seen Tennessee play seven, eight games a season all 40 minutes and it's a solid team, but this is not a team that I will have any confidence whatsoever. Like, oh, I'll just, I'll just write him into the second week of the tournament. Regardless of the, of the number next to the name. I don't. And this is a team that has knocked off Houston, gotten a win over Louisville. Those are the two biggest ones by far. But I don't know. I, I didn't even think they should have been ranked last Monday when the, when the poll refreshed coming off the loss against Florida where they were non competitive. So Barnes is a good coach. Volsa like steady out. But I, I don't think this is one of the four best teams in the sec and I don't think that this is going to be a team that's, that's really a remote threat to make the Final Four.
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We almost don't know if you saw postgame, but almost had fisticuffs.
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I know. Yeah. And, and, and by the way, that, that moment, GP is where you really see and you stood next to him, you really understand how large of a human Mark Pope is. He's got two, two hands on two different very strong guys that are more than half his age and he was at least able to legitimately resist them from making it even more of a thing than it almost was.
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Like, these things almost never go anywhere of substance and this one didn't either. But it looked like it might like, it looked like, okay, this is one that might like really pop off. But they got it under control pretty quickly. Perhaps because one of the coaches is a tall and strong and still young enough man to get it under. Let's move to Georgia. Arkansas final number 21, Georgia 90. Number 17, Arkansas 76. So I've got the Bulldogs at 25 now in the top 25 and 1. Remember they were coming off of a midweek loss to Ole Miss. Arkansas now doing that thing, little, you know, win one, lose one type of thing. What'd you make of that result?
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Well, I'll throw it right back to you. What's the result mean? What Arkansas losing, Georgia winning. What do you put more stock into? 90 to 76 final. By the way, if you're just listening and you're glazing of the scores, a 14 point difference here on Georgia's home floor.
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Here's what I think. I think if we're saying Florida and Vanderbilt are the best two teams in the sec, and I don't know if we're saying that, but if we, if.
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That'S what we're starting, it's still fair to say that for sure.
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Okay, then I think there's a next batch of teams, whether it's the Alabamas, the Arkansas, the Georgias and those are teams that can beat just about anybody at home and are going to be vulnerable on the road in the sec. And I think that's what, that's what that result tells me, that Arkansas is one of those teams that they're going to be good enough to go to the NCAA tournament, they're going to be good enough to win games in the NCAA tournament, but you take them on the road against almost anybody in the SEC and they're going to have to play well to win.
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Yeah, I, I, I want to put Arkansas just a narrow tier above, but maybe that, maybe I shouldn't, honestly like, like Alabama probably should have lost against Oklahoma on Saturday. That was, I know that game was like way off the radar generally speaking because of everything else that was happening. But like Oklahoma blew the game. Whatever, Alabama got it. And you, you take any road win any way you can in league play. Understandably so. So Alabama got that one, Arkansas on this. Here I was. To me, to me it's more about Georgia. The margin makes me think, you know, ever so slightly in Georgia's favor because the 14 point deficit for Arkansas, you just, with a team that talented, you just don't want to see that a loss on the road and league play against a team that's projected to get to the tournament. Understandable. But they just like Wagner was just a non factor. He's a non factor in too many games for me. Brazil didn't play well. Acuff was great. Again, Acuff's just one of the best guards in the country. He's an awesome player and he's rely like he's reliable every single game. And if you're an Arkansas fan that's so huge but just wasn't quite enough around them. Leak Thomas didn't play well. It's just too he's a I wonder if he hits a streak in the in the in the positive he can just be too streaky where it's just you think a bunch of shots are going to go down and they don't so Arkansas's 13 and 5 since the Houston loss, which I saw in person in Newark where Houston you know they won by nine but they might as well won by 25. They the only notable win is probably at Mississippi GP on January 7th. Other than that it's the South Carolina win. Tennessee at home is a good one, but I just said what I said about Tennessee. To me winning at Ole Miss is more more impressive in that in that way. And I say that knowing full well Tennessee rates very very well ahead of Ole Miss. But that's a road game. I don't know. Georgia I think is is probably going to make the tournament. However, however, however, however 15 and 3 the non con schedule was 3:38 and the next four games are at Mizzou at Texas home Tennessee home A M to close out January. Can Georgia get through the next four games with a 2 record in 17 and 5 overall? If it can, it'll probably be sitting relatively pretty. Generally speaking, Mike White's team flies up and down the floor. Jeremiah Wilkinson is probably the most entertaining player people don't know enough about. He leads the team in scoring blue. Kane is also just Johnny on the spot more times than not. There's enough here in Georgia has been one of the real surprise teams. Mike White's team was not expected to be 15 and three in the middle of January. So credit to credit to the Dogs. I'm glad we included them in the A block here because they they do deserve it after getting a a definitive win after losing in heartbreaking fashion at the buzzer against the aforementioned Rebels at home just a few days ago. So I think that's going to be a tournament team. And actually hold on, let me check this real quick. Parrish, when's the last time? Yeah, it's been since 01 02. So if Georgia does make the tournament, they'll make it in back to back years. Last time was Jim Herrick 2001 2002. This just doesn't happen to this program, but they've got a real shot. But it's key month, key step up time. You know if you get beat the next two games on the road against Mizzou in Texas, it will be understandable. But then you got to come back home and beat Tennessee and beat A M to prove that you're a tournament team.
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Final score Kansas 80, Baylor 62 the weekend got started with the Darren Peterson show. Five star freshman. He took 13 shots, he made 11 of them, finished with 26 points in 23 minutes. Norlander, I know you had your eyes on it Friday night. What'd you make of what Darren Peterson did to the Baylor Bears?
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I did have my eyes on it given the football here today, all of the hoops in football yesterday, wife's birthday is today. Friday was the all right, you get to pick what do you want to watch. But I just got to have, I got to have this game on the iPad. So we did one battle after another. Really good movie. I didn't know a thing about it going in. If you haven't seen it yet, definitely watch. Have you seen, have you seen one.
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Battle after two thumbs up?
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It was great, good stuff. So but I bring that up to say at one point I was like we got to. I was like we got to stop the movie for a second because I got to make sure that Darren Peterson doesn't drop 40 on Baylor right now. And he didn't. He certainly could have if he wanted to. From a score and result standpoint like this is at Allen Field House, it's not one of the eight or nine most significant outcomes of the weekend. But if you watched the game and you saw with this and Badoonga also had, you know, Florida Dunga had an excellent, excellent game in this but there was a six minute stretch where Peterson again he just this is why despite the injury issues and not playing in some of the games, it's basically what he did on Friday night and we don't have to go long on this. This is basically all I have to say about this game. Kansas is 13 and 5, Baylor's 11 and 6. Peterson and his potential and his ceiling is this is why Boozer debancer name any other player you want has not for the most part at this stage of the season. Maybe it changes on on in June. This is why he's still maintained that projected number one status because he has moments where he just makes the game look absurdly easy. And he was in the zone on Friday night. Super, super impressive.
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Yeah, that's more or less what I wrote in the top 25 and one on Saturday morning. Like we've barely seen him. You know he missed nine of Kansas's first 13 games. So we've barely seen him while we've been watching consistently. AJ DeBonsa be awesome. Cameron Boozer be awesome. Darius Acuff be awesome. You go down the list and still if you talk to anybody in the NBA, if they held the opinion in the preseason that Darren Peterson is the number one pick and most of them did, they haven't moved off of that even while he was battling soft tissue issues and watching more games than he was playing. And you saw that on Friday night. You saw why. Because he's different. DeBont is amazing and I still think you need to have a conversation if you're a franchise picking first. But exhibit A of but I think it's Darren Peterson was on display on Friday night and he's now averaging 22.2 points, 4.4 rebounds, 2.1 assists, 1.1 steals, 0.8 blocks per game in limited minutes, 50.4% from the field, 40.6% from three on 7.1 attempts per contest. So he is a top shelf athlete with positional size and length who doubles as an elite shooter. Like that's a great combination. Like I said, he's missed nine of KU's first 13 games, but he's clearly better now. Did not play, it should be noted in the final 801 yeah of this game, but Kansas was up 17 when he left. Bill Self did say after the game that Darren Peterson asked to come out like he reentered the game with 934 remaining, came out with 801 left, never returned. So that's not ideal. But he was still awesome in those 23 minutes. Like you said, Badunga added 23 points, 11 rebounds. Kansas opened on a 19 to 4 run but then actually lost that lead at one point and then you know took control and and put it away. Updated all time losses inside Allen Fieldhouse. I know this is a thing oh yeah.
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I forgot about. Yeah. What's the what's the Self vers Scott Drew tally.
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Okay IT's Bill Self has 22 losses in 361 games inside Allen Field House and Scott Drew has 17 losses in 18 games inside Allen Field house. So Bill Self's winning percentage inside Allen field house is 93.9 and Scott Drew's winning percentage on field house is 5.6. Yeah it's like I want to be clear that ain't got nothing to do with Scott Drew like that that's better than most people's probably like it just speaks to what Alan Field House and Bill Self like Scott Drew is going to in the hall of Fame. That that's what Alan Field has can do to a Hall of Fame coach. That's that's the point.
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Yeah that's not the road to joy there.
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That's the road to a lot of stuff.
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Talk to you talk about in the Big 12 including the prime time must see affair that went down Saturday night. Much better game than what we saw on the NFC side in the divisional round. Let's take a quick break word from our partners and then we will get to Texas Tech's win over BYU.
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Go. Game Time let's start the weekend whip around in the Big 12. Continue our Kansas Baylor conversation. Final score number 15 Texas Tech 84 number 11 BYU 71 JT Toppin 27 points 12 rebounds Rob Wright on the other side got 28 point fun game in prime time. The arena was popping just like that's what college basketball is supposed to look like. That was great.
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Yeah. And the game. Okay, so this game was closer than the final score indicated. Tech went on a 30 to 6 run and essentially the second half of the second half to flip it near the end. A couple takeaways. The primary one for me was Texas Tech induced AJ DeBancer into his worst game yet in, in a college uniform. Season low 13 points, just 6 to 17 from the field, 3 rebounds, 3 turnovers. Not the only reason why BYU lost, understandably lost on the road against a really good opponent, but notable nonetheless. These two teams have. Well, BYU has the most productive three man trio in college basketball and Texas Tech is number two. Last night, Toppin Anderson Watts for the Red raiders combined for 69 nice points. The pants of Saunders and Rob wright III had 59. The margin was even greater than the 10 point discrepancy between those two trios overall. And what impressed me and still does impress me about Texas Tech and we'll see when it rears its head in league play or in March. McCaslin is for the most part working with a five man rotation. Like let me pull up this box score. Did they have a, did they have a bench player log more than seven minutes last night? Because I was looking at it as, as the game ended. They did not. Anderson played 40, Toppin played 40, Donovan Atwell played 38, Jalen Petty played 36, Lawan Watts played 35. And then Nolan Groves led all bench players with six minutes. No one scored a point off the bench in this game. You can really, really flirt with fire if you're doing that. But it didn't bite him here. They got it done with a convincing win and a runaway win. I mean BYU had real moments in this game where it looked like it was going to be able to win it. It went on a 16 run, you know, from the 13 minute mark to about the 10 minute mark of the second half. But they guarded. The band said, well, he missed a few mid range jumpers that he normally makes. He made a great one. Like his first bucket of the game. It was kind of like, okay, sure man, if you want to do that every time, like they're not going to stop you. It didn't. But basketball doesn't work that way. And so a ton of credit to Texas Tech for getting its second notable win of the season. Like they got the win against Duke in the Garden. Also like with they have seven scholarship players available for that game, they still won it. And then they win this one here. So Red Raiders are form one league, 14, four overall. That was only BYU's second loss of the season. It's first in two months. The only other one came against Yukon in Boston back in mid November.
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Yeah, and no real concerns about byu. I mean, it was a road game against a, you know, a quality opponent, a hostile environment. You know, most teams are going to lose that game. Last night, to me, like I had this thought while watching it, you know, I think it was a week ago, maybe two, we got into a Kurt Signetti conversation on the college basketball podcast on CBS Sports Network. Like what would be the basketball equivalent of what's happening with Indiana football right now? And you and I sort of approached it from different directions. You sort of talked about it from a historical perspective and I was more talking about it like snapshot in the year 2026. How impossible would it be to imagine a program doing something like that? How easy would it be to imagine a program doing something like that? And Texas Tech is an example of this is why I don't think history matters as much anymore. Like, like, do you have the right coach? Do you have the right investment? Do you have the right building? Do you have the right resources? If so, you can build something like that at the power conference level with few exceptions, basically anywhere. I don't want to say you can do it anywhere, but I think if you hire the right person and provide that person with the right resources at the power conference level, you can build something special like national championship. Good. Right now, history and tradition and all of that stuff matters as little as it's ever mattered. And you look at that scene at Texas Tech, that hasn't been a basketball power forever, but if all you did was turn on your television on Saturday night, that you might walk away from that going, I guess that's as good as it could ever be in college basketball because that's. That's what it looked like.
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Yeah, it was a really, really fun game as well and appreciated it in real time because we had this huge crunch of games from essentially like 12 to 6, 37 o' clock and then the, the night late really lightened up and then, you know, Niner Seahawks was an absolute dud. And so this one was, was compelling until basically the final four minutes. So a really, really good game. BYU now gets a week off before the rivalry game against Houston. And then in nine days or eight days now, it gets Arizona coming to town. Speaking of Arizona, two high majors Undefeated still going into the weekend and coming out of it. Nebraska was able to win on the road with that issue against Northwestern. But Arizona also had the tougher game, went up and played UCF and a good game. You know, Arizona 1 was able to get some separation late, but the Wildcats will remain number one in the AP top 25, remain number one in GP's top 25 1. Any thoughts on Tommy Lloyd's team, what they did down in Orlando?
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You know, it's, it's a road victory over an unranked team, so it's not going to generate the, the biggest headline. But yeah, we've watched very good big 12 teams go to Orlando and lose. And so just getting out of there without, you know, having what has happened to so many others happen to you, that's like, just take it and move on. Like, Tommy Lloyd's got this thing, you know, operating at an extremely high level consistently. Jaden Bradley, 23 points. So that was one. I don't think I said it on Friday, but that was one where I was like, all right, keep an eye on that, because that could get, that could get that. That could be the one where you, you just assumed Arizona would be undefeated, ranked number one on Monday. Oh, but they got tripped up at Orlando. I was like that, that pay attention there. And it was, it was in, in play for a while, but they did what great teams did. They closed it out. Like I said, Jaden Bradley finished with 23 points. And, you know, they're, they're, they're in play to, to obviously, you know, accomplish everything you can accomplish in the sport in this season.
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Well, Arizona gets to win. Let's talk about teams at the top of the Big 12. Arizona got the win. Houston was idle this weekend. We talked about byu, we talked about Texas Tech, we talked about Kansas. And then there's one other team in that group started 16 and oh, has now dropped two straight. Now, the loss at Kansas for Iowa State earlier in the week, not surprising. What was surprising was the margin and then top three surprising result of the weekend. You play it since then. I know it's on the road and sometimes that, but sometimes it is life in the Big 12. But Iowa State loses at Cincinnati. 79, 70. And the most surprising stat I saw provided by our CBS Sports research team. And I know you're not getting a number one or a number two team coming into your building every year. I get that Cincinnati just beat a top two team at home for the first time since 1967. Man, Hogs didn't even do it. Hugs didn't do it. Nope. Hugs did not do it. 1967, that's like, that's like before the Beatles hit their absolute prime. That's wild to me. Good on Wes Miller to get the win. You know, they have been a hugely disappointing team. They're not still tracking to make the NCAA tournament. If they don't get there, he probably loses his job in March. So good for him. And you know, you take any kind of win, any kind, any way you can here. They've been able to, to rally as of late. We'll see if they can really, if this and really turn their season in a drastic way. But the bigger story is, of course, Iowa State losing the way that it did. From unbeaten, hot start, one of four, you know, five undebe undefeated teams left to now this. The, the ironic part was that Milan Momcilovic like went off. He had 34 in this game. Joshua Jefferson added like 16 more. No one else really did much of anything else there. I, I, because it's TJ Parrish and because it's Iowa State, I tend to lean toward. They have two losses on January 18th and like, they'll probably only have three on Valentine's Day because they're really, really good. So I'm not, not really fretting that much, frankly. But it was surprising that they lost and it was a, yeah, kick them out of here. They're not going to win this game. They didn't really have hope down the stretch. Your thoughts on the game?
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You know, I like you. I'm not that concerned with Iowa State. I would focus on, like you said, it's January 18th. They only have two know they both come this week. So that's not ideal. But if you would have told TJ or any Iowa State fan, hey, on January 18th, you're going to be 16 and 2. You're like, We. And we did hold up. We had to go to Purdue, right? Yeah. Okay. And we're still 16 and 2, right. Oh, you won the game at Purdue, by the way. Okay, cool. Yeah. You take this every time. I imagine they'll get back on track with Cincinnati. Like, interesting development. They had lost 8 of 12 and I was starting to see like post game West Miller quotes. Like post game radio. Like, it was just finding me on the timeline. Like, and here's West Miller popping off on. And it was like, oh, buddy, I don't need to see that. Like, that's when I know things aren't going well. When your post game radio comments reach me from Unranked Cincinnati. And it was like, you know, I know everybody's thinks we're gonna lose every. I'm paraphrasing, but it was like it's us against the world and you know, but we're gonna keep fighting. It was one of those, like, you know, it was one of those. It was the type of thing that you see a coach say two months before you hear about him not having his job anymore. But like they won two in a row and I won him was against Colorado. So we'll see. But you know, they, they. He is clearly fighting for his job and it's better to, to beat the second ranked team in the country when you're doing that than it is to. To lose again.
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Agreed. Where do you want to go next?
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Let's go over to the Big Ten, I guess that's where. Number 8, Nebraska 77, Northwestern 58. The Cornhuskers remain undefeated. We'll talk about where they might be at the AP poll on Monday before we get out of here. But in the top 25 and 1, I've got them second. Like, I don't know what you're supposed to do with an undefeated. Hold on number two. I know, I know it sounds crazy, but tell me what to do with a team that is sitting here undefeated on January 18th with five quadrant one victories.
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I don't know. What do you do you got to do. I'm like, I'm not going to get too precious about the rankings here. That's just surprising to me. That's all you ask yourself the question, do you think Nebraska is the second best team in the country?
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No.
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Okay, then. Then I wouldn't put them too. If that's. If you don't think that, then I wouldn't put them too.
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But, but when you start. And like I don't want to get into a long rankings debate that nobody cares about, but when you start applying that standard, do I think this team is this regardless of what their record or resume says, Then you just open yourself up to. I could just right now just. I could rank Houston number one just because I think Houston's the best team in the country.
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Your rankings, no one's stopping you.
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I know, but that would be logically nonsensical based on the stuff that's happened in this season. I can, I actually can and perhaps do hold both of these opinions at the same time. Houston's the best team in the country. I don't know how you could rank them that way as a human right now. If you care about what's happened this season at all. But I would pick Houston to win the national championship. I can, I can hold both of them, both of those thoughts. And so with Nebraska, this is me holding both of those thoughts, just in a different way. No, I don't believe actually that Nebraska is the second best team in the country. But what I do know is it's January 18th. Nebraska is one of three undefeated teams in the country. I've got them behind only the. The other power conference undefeated team. And they've got five quadrant one victories. So if you're a UConn fan, a Duke fan, a Purdue fan saying, why them ahead of us? That's why all of you have lost a game. They have not. And they've got five Quadrant one wins. They're playing in a power conference. They have beaten final four contenders at home. They have beaten a final four contender on the road. I'm going to reward that. But I acknowledge, yes, it's a wild thing to look at.
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That's awesome. They. Yeah, well, you know, and the program, they're sitting at the program record from an AP rankings perspective right now, the ranked eighth. That's the highest ever. They'll set that mark when the polls refresh on Monday. How about this real quick. Let's just power rank for me, the big tail, just power rank, not a. Not GP. Top 25 and one Purdue want Purdue one. Just a quick refresher for two. One at USC on the road to get to 17 and one matches the best start in program history. They've done it like three other times. Michigan won against shorthanded Oregon on the week. So a road win for Michigan to get to 16 one Michigan State one on the road to get to 16, two over Washington. It's those three, really. And Nebraska there. And, and you can, you can include Illinois in that. In that as well. But the other ones all played on the road to power rank for me, the Big Ten between Purdue, Michigan, Nebraska, Illinois, Michigan State. I think it's those five on their own tier for sure.
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Okay. I don't care about any of the results. I'm not ranking them based on anything that's happened. I'm just saying this is how I think these teams.
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Confidence meter rankings. Yes.
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There we go.
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Okay.
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In the Big Ten, Purdue 1, Michigan 2.
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Okay.
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Michigan State 3.
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Okay.
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Nebraska 4, Illinois 5.
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I would go Michigan 1, Purdue 2, Illinois 3. Michigan state for Nebraska 5. And it's. I don't mean this light. Nebraska, it's the only undefeated team in the group there. It's still really good. I would think it's actually Nebraska's the worst in the predictives of the five as well. But. But it's a good thought experiment. Very, very. It's Big Ten's top. It's not even its top third. You know, it's a little more than the top fourth, but the top of the league has been. Has been really, really good. So good on the Cornhuskers. Keep it going. Want to see see it continue? I want to see Nebraska go as long as possible without a loss. That said, at Minnesota, at Michigan and then home Illinois are three of the next four games. It should beat Washington in its next game. But. But I think that first loss is in the not so distant future.
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All right, let's skip on over to the ACC. Number six. Duke 80, Stanford 50. On a surface level, it's just a road win over an unranked Stanford team. But like Stanford had just beaten North Carolina. To go there and do it by 30. Like to go there and win, whatever. To go there and win by 30. Okay. John Shire's got a special team again. And to be clear, we didn't need to see that to know that, but seeing that as a reminder of that. And Cameron Boozer, 30 points, 14 rebounds.
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Yes, there was an instructive pair of games this weekend in the acc. Okay. And it is Duke winning at Stanford and Carolina losing at Cal, which we'll get to in a second. But you know what Stanford just did to UNC when Abuka Corey went off. And then you go a few days later, Abu Kokori, nine points, three of nine from the field, four turnovers, one rebound, one assist. Defensively, they're an ocean apart, Duke and Carolina at this point. And then the margin is, is actually. I know Stanford isn't projecting as a top 60 team right now. I get that. To go on the road. Second game, West Coast, 80 to 50. The margin does mean something to me. And then we can't let Boozer stat line become normal, right? 30 points, 14 rebounds, 3 steals in a block. Here we go, folks. Boozer is the fourth power conference freshman in the last 25 years with at least 30 points, 14 rebounds and three steals in a game. The other ones, Ben Simmons in 2015, Kevin Durant in 2007, and then Mello did it twice in the 0203 season for Syracuse. So Boozer, it's like every third game he is doing something like this. Which is why we do have a, a race for player of the year there. He's got folks in his rear view. But they are still in his rear view. This is still boozers race to lose. And he reemphasized that with another outstanding showing over the weekend.
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Let's go to Cal 84, number 14, UNC 78. So the Tar Heels have now dropped two straight. They can't get them out of California quick enough. The issue once again is on the defensive end of the court. They allowed the Cal bears to shoot 50% from the field. They made every other shot they took. And that's not a good way to try to win anywhere, but especially on the road.
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Yeah, listen California, Mark Madsen, nice party.
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Knows how to party.
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California knows how to party. Dodges. We had a couple teams dodge the swoon which if you're familiar with your ion college basketball terminology, the swoon is four losses in a row. So Iowa won in Indiana to get off the schneide and avoid a fourth straight loss. California, yes, to avoid the fourth straight loss here. So good on, good on Mark Madsen's group to get the win. Carolina is the story. California knows how to party. Carolina knows how to give up in the city. Just a ton of threes. Here's the problem. Shout out to dad Gumbox course who does a really good job tracking Carolina specific stuff on Twitter. North Carolina has allowed five straight opponents to make at least 12 three pointers in a game. And not just that, the success rate is 45% from beyond the arc. The opponents are Florida State, SMU, Wake Forest, Stanford and California knows how to party. UNC is allowed points per game. Exactly. UNC allowed Cal to snap a 26 game losing streak against top 15 opponents that dated back a decade. The defense has dropped off a cliff. One of the five or six worst defenses in all of high major basketball since we flipped the calendar to 2026. UNC has lost three of four. This was a 131 team. It is now 14 4. And it is in the midst of a stretch right now where it's got five games out of a seven game stretch on the road. There's actually another notable team that's also in the midst of a stretch like that where five of its seven are not in its home building. Owen three not playing in the Dean Dome in this stretch. Hubert Davis has got to fix it because you can. If you don't. You go from a situation where you were 13:1 looking good. Only loss Michigan State but with some notable wins there to you know are we going to be in that 23 seed conversation to like you slip. You can slip if your defense isn't going to get fixed like you're cascading down the seed line, there is a reprieve allegedly coming on Wednesday with a home tilt against Notre Dame. But after that, they've got to go to Virginia. We'll see what happens there. They've got some bad teams upcoming, but it's the defense, man. It is. It is moving toward a situation where it's going to be the worst Hubert Davis has ever had. I. I can't explain why. I don't know why. I wonder if the coaches truly can diagnose this, but they have to and they have to fix it. Otherwise, Carolina is going to go from a top 15 team in the country to outside the top 35 in a snap.
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I apologize. I'm deep into Jeff Perlman's Tupac book. So now every time I hear the word California, I immediately, it just triggers something inside of me there. Tupac's life was incredible. Don't get me started.
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I've actually been meaning to get to that book, but it's, it's.
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Yeah, it's great.
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Perlman's an amazing writer.
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Yeah, it's unbelievable. He talked to more than 600 people.
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Yeah, I know.
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It's incredible. Like, I couldn't recommend it enough. Tupac was something else, man. Let's go to Virginia. 72, SMU 68. Virginia becoming one of the nice stories in college basketball. I told you earlier, I was tracking back to December 13th to see what Florida had been in this nine game stretch. And when I did that, I noticed, oh, Virginia's top 10 in this, you know, since December 13th as well. Malik Thomas, 23 points, 11 rebounds in 33 minutes. Virginia has won five straight.
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Yeah. The poll question earlier in the show for our YouTube audience was what's the biggest win of the weekend? And the options were Florida over Vandy, which won the, which won the poll 38. But I also put Georgia over Arkansas, Kentucky over Tennessee, Texas Tech over byu, and the, the Kentucky one over Tennessee was second. The one game that I, if I could have given you five options, it would have been this one, because I, I thought this was pretty significant. I thought it was pretty meaningful. Virginia, top 15 team in the country now 16. And two, getting the win on the road has won back to back games at Louisville, at smu. You know, those are purportedly top five, top six ACC teams overall. Virginia wins both of those games and it has been one hell of an instant turnaround for the Wahoos under Ryan Odom. It is going off beautifully. To this point they've actually won three in a row on the road dating back to the win over NC State. And I had made this point on social media on Saturday. There was plenty of fan bases that were energized by their off season hirings. That always happens. We understand that. But to me like two of the three or four most like tangibly noticeable fan bases that were geeked up, juiced up. Let's go. Immediate returns. Year one was NC State and Virginia. Virginia it has hit 162 as I just said. And cruising like now has top four seed in their sights for the tournament. Year one and right back to where we were for the majority of Tony Bennett's tenure. NC State has not been that NC State lost at home to Georgia Tech over the weekend is now 126 and falling out of the tournament picture. So we'll see. We'll see if those teams continue to go in opposite directions. But mighty impressed. But what I saw here, Tester Ritter is like, he's just a beast of a player. But Malik Thomas was really, really good in this game as well. That's a very fun team. They get seven days off. Talk about it later in the week. Carolina hosting. Excuse me. Virginia hosting Carolina on Saturday will be one of the premier games next weekend.
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SMU was 110 inside Moody Coliseum before the Cavaliers got to town. So that's a nice rogue Quad one victory. The Ritter, you mentioned him, he sank for free throws in the final 67 seconds. That's what got the four point win. Up next for Virginia, like you mentioned, home on Saturday against North Carolina. Up next for SMU at Wake Forest on Tuesday. Let's one more in the ACC and we don't have to spend much time on the game because the game was like over like very quickly. But number 20 Louisville 100, pit 59. Michael Brown missed it. Missed it. He has now missed eight straight. Hasn't played since Dec. 13 against Memphis. Norlander, to the best of your ability, it's been described as a back issue. What's going on here?
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I think I've got an update. I got no update for you. I mean he's unavailable. He's got a bad back. They're not going to chance it. Fortunately you were gifted with the game against Pitt. Not even home against pit. You were at Pitt 159. What like Brown not playing is a. Is a thing because he just hasn't returned yet. My bigger takeaway from this is Pitt is 8 and 10. Cable's got a massive buyout. Are they gonna have to Bite the bullet here. This is ugly, man. Pit basketball was reliably making the tournament with good seeds forever. We don't have to redo this take because we've done it probably five or six times over the past 10 years on this show. But you want to Jamie Dixon out. Since then, Pitt has gone to the tournament once. It has been under 500 more often than not since. It wasn't like Dixon was kicked out. It was more like, okay, we could use a change here. Like they got, they got happy with their lot in life and now look where they are. It's, it's truly a sad state of affairs and I, I don't know who's coming to rescue pit basketball. This, this, they are drifting very far afield.
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I said one more in the acc. I apologize. I'm, I'm gonna repeat myself. One more in the ACC should point out, can't go past this. Number 22. Clemson 69, Miami 59. Nothing too notable about the game other than Clemson is now 60 in the ACC. Brad Burnell's Tigers, they've got a nine game winning streak and they have a nine game winning streak because they snapped Miami's 10 game winning streak. The Hurricanes are 5 and 1 in the ACC.
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Yeah, Hurricanes often well outperforming expectations. Jay Lucas done a nice job. You go on the road, you get picked off. Happens. Clemson and Duke are the only undefeated teams in the league, both at 6, 0. They don't meet for a month however, so we'll see where both teams are in the league ledger by the time they, they meet just, just around Valentine's Day there. Clemson very likely to make the tournament in three straight seasons for the first time under Brad Brownell. He has been there since the 2010, 2011 season. Good stuff out of him again. Clemson has done well for itself since it blew. If it won the game against BYU at the Garden on the night of the Jimmy V would have an even higher profile situation because they'd have one more win, the record would be even better and they would have defeated BYU in the process. So they were really, really close to being even better than where they stand right now. You mentioned Miami losing at Clemson. Now I'm going to invoke the Redhawks here. Wally Zerbiak, this is for you. I go to check the, the podcast rundown on Sunday morning. I see all these results. Okay. I like what GP's laying out here. Cool. I see it, I see it, I see it. What do I do not? What do I don't see? On the dock. What don't I see on the document? I don't see a single thing about the Redhawks getting not just to 190 but getting to 190 in dramatic fashion.
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Sooner will fire the Deep 3. It is off the mark. Myers taps it out to Elmer at the buzzer. Good, good. Ian Elmer that got it to overtime.
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And this is in overturn.
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105, 1.5 to go. And Brezzi from three quarter court miss and Miami stays undefeated.
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GP wasn't watching. Did you. But did you. You probably saw it yesterday. Peter Suter hits his 73 of the game in overtime to win it. When he hits the Steph Curry, which I don't, I actually, I don't know when did the Curry start that celebration? If he did, when did he first do it?
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I think it's a step.
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I think, I think that this is gonna, it's gonna live on. I think we'll see players doing it 20 years from now. The night night 30 GP explain yourself. Defend yourself. This team is 19 0. Suter went for 37 including the game winner 7 threes that Ian Elmer 3 to even get it to overtime against by the way, the best Buffalo team since NATO took that program to the tournament. Come on now. Red Hawks, baby. This is one of the best stories in the sport and I love that it continued for at least another game because they got a tough one coming Tuesday night at Kent State.
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My nine year old hit hit a night night earlier this season. We got a, we got a message in the, in the group me that said we're going to try to play with a little more sportsmanship going forward. My little guy's outrageous. He hits him with the sleep and his name's Louie, so he's nicknamed himself King Louie. So when he makes a jumper, he puts his own. He puts his crown on.
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You're never getting that good to shovel a driveway, I'll tell you that. That much.
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Oh, buddy. We can barely get him to brush his teeth. Everything's a fight around here. Everything's a fight around here.
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Why do you hate Wally Zerbiax Alma mater?
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I, I, I don't. That's on me. That's on me. I just got, I got a blind spot. Here's, here's the truth. This is why I will forever argue with people when they say things like rankings don't matter. Yes, they do.
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No, I know what you're about to say and you can go ahead and say it. It is on you as a national analyst for the sport that they're off your radar, but go ahead, defend your reason why you didn't.
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Radar? Not off my radar.
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You check the top 25 score page. They weren't on it. And so you didn't think about putting them in.
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I look at when I'm looking at what are the interesting things for us to talk about. I look at top 25 scoreboard and each individual power conference scoreboard. So I go through the top 25 scoreboard and then I go through the individual like Big Ten scoreboard, ACC scoreboard, Biggie scoreboard. You. You know the power conferences. I don't have to educate you on what the power conferences are.
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Do you know the rest of the conferences?
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Not really. Not not really.
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How about this? Try this on for size. Most consecutive wins while scoring at least 75 points in every single win. Miami Ohio has done it 19 times in a row.
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Yes.
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The only other schools to do it at least 19 times in the past 40 years, the famed Loyola Marymount squad from the late 80s. And then all the other ones made the final four. 0102 Duke did it 22 games in a row. 9091 UNLV 23 games in a row 9899 Duke famously lost in the title game to UConn 25 games in a row. This team is off to I believe I saw a note that it was the best start in Mac history. Second best start in Mac history to 75. 76. Western Michigan I wouldn't check that. Western Michigan did not start the season 19 and oh, so this might actually be the best start ever by a Mac team. They've also won 26 games in a row at home. The last time a team got to at least 170 and didn't get into the and now Miami's 190 was Alcorn State, more than 45 years ago was the last time a team wasn't ranked. With this good of a start, you don't have the Redhawks ranked. My prediction? They will be in the AP Top 25 on Monday with the 25 next to the name. And again, I'm not going to get I'm not going to clutch my pearls over the AP rankings. I just think you start 19 and oh, that's an awesome story. I don't care who you beat, how you did it, how you got there. We're more than halfway into January. You still don't have a scratch on your record. They're probably going to lose in the next week. Reward them with an AP ranking. It's a really awesome story. It's really not a huge deal if they happen in the rankings. And it's also, by the way, it's good marketing for college basketball if you have three unbeatens as of January 18, January 19, and to have all of them with numbers next to their name. Rank the Redhawks. Let's go.
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I've got nothing against Miami Ohio. They're close to my heart. I have dinner with Wally Zerbiak every week.
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Close to your rankings, though.
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I have dinner with Wally Zerbiak as often as I have dinner with anybody. Shouts to Greek Kitchen.
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Unfamiliar.
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It's just one of the places we eat at sometimes. Yep, you can Google it. Greek Kitchen and Hell's Kitchen shout out. Redhawks are 190 but 0 wins over top 60 teams at Ken Palm, 94th at Ken Palm, 51st in the net. Strength of record is 21st. That should be noted. Strength of record is 21st. If you want to rank Miami Ohio, point to that. Don't say anything else, just point to that.
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That.
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Don't start talking about quad one wins and stuff like that. Just point to strength of record 21 and rest your case. And I'm fine with it. But if you're wondering why I don't have Miami Ohio ranked right now, it would be 0 top 60 wins, 94th at Ken Palm, 51st in the net. But what an awesome story. What an awesome little Wally duck.
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That is a Wally duck. Which they did. They did our guy dirty. I'm sorry. Like, they could have done a better job on the duck.
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That's a good looking Wally duck, I think. Yeah, I like it.
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It's so. They could have done a little bit better.
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Look at his lips. Look at his lips. I like those lips, I tell you that.
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It's outrageous.
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I don't know what's going on.
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Wally, I want a duck now. Okay.
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I'll get you a duck. Me and Wally gonna eat some. We're gonna eat some.
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Some duck.
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What I usually get, I don't know, Greek salad, beef, beef techie, baklava beef techie, beef tiki beef. It's like a. It's basically hamburger patties. It's basically. They take a hamburger, burger patty and they sprinkle some Greek stuff on it and then they charge you like 30 bucks for it. Something like that. It's good, though. I like it.
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I got two more results before we look ahead and get out of here. All right. I don't know why, like, you've really entirely turned your back on St. John's they win 86, 79 at Villanova. They've won four in a row. Longest win streak of the season. Three of those wins have not been at home like Carolina. St. John's is in the midst of a schedule stretch where five of seven are on the road. Unlike Carolina, Johnny's are getting it done away from home. So 13 and 5, they've crept back into top 25 status from a predictive metric standpoint. Are they in your top 25 and one on this Sunday morning? I'm going to say no because you didn't talk about them, but I could be wrong.
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I did move them back into the top 25 and 1.
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Here we go. Okay, they.
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They are back in the top 25 and one at number 23. But I've just tried to protect myself. I don't want to get hurt again. You know, I don't want to get hurt again. I'm trying to protect myself. I'm very aware of how they seem to be perhaps turning a corner, but I don't want to get hurt again. I fell in love and I got burned, and I don't want to go through that again. So now I'm. I've set up some boundaries with St. John's I've set some boundaries with Rick Patino and the Red Storm. I don't want to get hurt again. So I'm going to keep monitoring the situation. I'm. I'm gonna be open minded about this. I'm not saying I'm unwilling to fall back in love. I'm saying I'm hesitant to fall back in love because I'm. I don't want to get burned again like I got burned this last time.
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One more result. Now, I've saw. I've seen the quote. I know Paris has seen the quote. I have not heard the coach say the quote. Josh is going to play the video in a second. UConn beat Georgetown. They escape 6462. Tighter game than anyone expected on the road down in D.C. huskies have their best start, by the way, since 2008. 2009, 17 1. Georgetown, however, is 9 to 9 overall, 1 and 6 in the Big East. Ed Cooley was asked about the state of the team as things continue to go in the wrong direction. Josh, go ahead and play the quote. Play the video because I want to hear what cool how Cooley said what he said.
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It's a lot worse happening than Georgetown losing a basketball game around the world, around our city, around our community. I'm not trying to deflect anything but my appreciation and Gratitude. To have an attempt to. To coach these young men to be better at what we do is an unbelievable honor. Unbelievable honor. Yeah. We lost, folks. Oh.
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Oh, wow.
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With this, we're. That. You know what? We are. We're blessed. We're blessed to be 99.
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Well, on one hand, yes, there. We should continually carry a certain humility about us to, you know, if you're in a good spot in your life and you look around at what's happening in the world, and we know on literally a daily basis in this era, you can be reminded of. Of your blessings. He's right about that. However, this. This was, like, two stages removed from the quote. You get, like, every three or four years from someone in sports where things aren't going well and. And either a coach or a player just basically says, nothing matters. We're all going to die. Like, some of the context matters here. And I don't think Georgetown to appreciate the fact that Ed Cooley said, we are blessed to be 9 and 9. You are not. You are not blessed. This is not. This is not a blessing. You played close against UConn, and there's some. Some admirable fight there. That's a really, really good team. Not easy to beat. But Georgetown has gone from a team that started off really, really nicely, like, top, you know, top 50, top 55, projected advanced analytics, ahead of the pace. They're now 100 overall. They were once 5, 0. They're 9 and 9. So that quote got shared a ton. And if you try and move the goal post like that and you're not playing well, the fan base is going to come after you. And he's going to be on the receiving end of that for sure.
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J.P. i know what he was trying to say. You can't say it. Not when you have that job, not when you're making that money. I'm aware that he lives in Washington, D.C. or at least the area. I'm aware that there are worse things happening than Georgetown struggling in men's basketball.
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Sure. If we're ranking the problems happening in this country right Now, Georgetown at 9 and 9 isn't going to crack the top 5,000. You got us there.
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All right, fair. But, you know, that's like, my son makes a D on a spelling test, and I'm like, bro, why do you have a D on your spelling test? And he says, dad, there are worse things happening than me having a D in my spelling test. All right? There are babies dying in Gaza. And I'm like, okay, I got it. I got It. Bud, I understand, but like, we're not going to make D's on our spelling test. All right?
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Okay.
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Ed, I know there are worse things happening in the world than Georgetown being irrelevant in basketball, but it is quite literally your job, your multi million dollar. Your job to make Georgetown relevant in basketball. And just because, like, the world's a mess doesn't make that any less true. And I don't know why he didn't understand that going into that press conference, other than there's some indications that he's just really going through it. I mean, he threw a water bottle at a kid.
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I know.
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You know, not too long ago, he's going through it.
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It. He.
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See, like these are things that you don't do or say unless you're really going through it. And it appears he's really going through it. I. I hope he figures it out.
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Three of the next four for Georgetown on the road in the Big East. We'll see if this is the nadir or you worry. It is not. What are we looking ahead to next two days? I don't think we have anything on Monday. So I want to, as we do every year, Josh, we pick the national title game and that actually goes toward our final four and one count. So we got to do that. But. But nothing on Monday. What do we have?
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Let me walk you through this real quick because I think I want to start doing this on Sundays, if you don't mind. Before we look ahead to the next two days, let's look ahead to the AP poll.
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Okay?
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Top five on Monday.
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Okay.
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The top five in the top 25 and one right now. So barring something silly happening later Today, the top five of the top 25 and one on Monday morning is going to be number one, Arizona. Number two, Nebraska, number three, UConn. Number four, Duke, number five, Purdue. My prediction for the AP poll is going to be number one, AZ. Number two, UConn. Number three, Michigan. Number four, Purdue. Number five, Duke. Take a stab at it.
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On Monday, January 19th. The AP top 20. AP top 25. The top five of it will start. One. Arizona. Two. UConn. Three. Michigan. Four. Purdue. Five. Duke.
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Yeah. So Arizona, perhaps consensus number one, Arizona. Unanimous. Unanimous number one.
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Sorry. Yes, it will be the unanimous number one team.
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Yes, I think that's probably right. All right, looking ahead on Monday, zero ranked teams are in action, but we do have six games on CBS Sports Network starting at 11 Eastern. Northeastern at Monmouth, Drexel at Towson, St. Joe's at VCU, George Washington at George Mason, Loyola Maryland at Lehigh, North Carolina A&T at Hampton. Six games on CBS Sports Network Monday starting at 11am Eastern. On Tuesday, I will be in studio CBS Sports Network with Brit Stover, Wally Zerbiak and Ice Young. We got a, a Big 12 double header. Seven o' clock eastern. UCF at Iowa State. See if the Cyclones can snap their two game losing streak. 9:00 Eastern, it's Utah at Kansas State. So that's KSU alum Brent Stover in studio for Jerome Tang's Wildcats. Elsewhere on Tuesday, Indiana at Michigan, NC State at Clemson, Seton hall at St. John's Vanderbilt at Arkansas, TX Tech at Baylor, Purdue at UCLA. What interests you there?
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Vandy at Arkansas is the. Gotta watch it. Can Vanity dodge a third straight loss? That is a big time game obviously in Arkansas coming off the loss there. By the way, Georgia also plays at Missouri. Those are both nine eastern games. Purdue at ucla, like the Bruins got to pick up the slack. You're at home produce coming to town. Can you get it done? That's the John Wooden game, of course. And then you know, Kansas plays at Colorado late. Like 11 Eastern. Like are we gonna have some wonky stuff happening late? I don't know. Solid, solid Tuesday night. I feel like when we get to the Wednesday morning show, and just a heads up, by the way, we have it on Tuesdays on CBS Sports Network will not have a Tuesday show this week so you don't get the bonus up. We'll see you back again on Tuesday in nine days from now. I do think on the Wednesday morning show. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say we're talking about at least two teams losing that we, that you wouldn't think they, they would have lost in that spot. Losing to inferior competition at least two. It feels like, it feels like we're prime for some, for some beats on Tuesday.
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All right, let's get out of here.
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Hold on. We gotta pick the title game. Oh, national title game in Monday.
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Indiana. Yes, in Miami.
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Corrected hard, just like everyone predicted.
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Stadium.
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Yep. The line is Indiana minus eight and a half. This goes in the final four and one tally as it does every year. I don't think I've ever been wrong about a college football national title game. Don't fact check me on that. Who you got?
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My heart is with the Hurricanes because my, one of my producers, Amy Salmonson, a proud Miami alum, she's jumping on a plane, she's heading down there to watch her alma mater take a shot at the national championship. So my heart's with Miami, but my brain is with Kurt Signetti and the Indiana Hoosiers. They're just killing everybody.
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They are. I know, I know.
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They're just killing everybody. Like, they look like a different level of football team. And I think that this is going to happen and they're really going to win the national championship. And it's going to be the most incredible story in college football history. Now, let me be clear. I'm not a college football historian, so I have no idea if that's true, but it feels like with a very base level of knowledge, it feels like this should go down as the greatest story in the history of college football.
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I really, really want a close game on Monday night. College football, the playoffs, schedule. I mean, this thing takes forever. By the way, A year from now, it's going to be on like January 25th, the title game. They gotta fix. They gotta fix this, man.
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B
It's easy. I mean, nothing's easy to fix because you gotta get a bunch of, you know, crazy people to agree on it. But, like, there's a better way to do this with the calendar.
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There is. Even with the cadences of football being a weekly thing, you can fix it. But whatever I will agree with, I really want to see a close game. And what's interesting is Miami is in the spot. The last time it was in this spot, it was. And I don't have the line in front of me, but Miami was the sizable favorite against Ohio State when Ohio State famously won in controversial fashion in the O2 season. So. So I will say that Miami can't get it done and that Indiana does win. I'll even give you a score. I'll say Hoosiers 34, Hurricanes 24. And yes, it is the culmination of the greatest college football story ever told.
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Okay, I'm going to go Indiana. We're Gonna go Indiana 31, Miami 24, Indiana Canes cover. If that's what I said.
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Yeah, well, you. Before you said Indiana covers, and now you have the Canes covering.
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I had it. Okay, then let's back it up.
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Okay, let's back it all up.
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Indiana 31, Miami 21.
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Okay, both 10 point margin.
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Indiana 31, Miami.
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Now I'm bracing.
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That's my final answer. How you feel about tonight? You nervous? Are you excited?
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I'm so excited. Just to be able to be in the middle of January and watch my team play an NFL playoff game in the divisional round. Hasn't happened in 15 years. And this is only the second time in essentially a generation So a win would be glorious. It would be phenomenal. Let's go Bears bear down, but Rams are really good if a loss happens. Hey, man, you take it this, this season, way ahead of the pace. I'm so reasonable and rational right now. When that ball kicks shortly after 6:30, all reason and ration goes out the window. You just embrace. Let's go Manang Guy Swift, Roma Dunes. They feeling a good game from Roman Dunes. They'll see what happens. Rams are really, really good, but the Bears got the game on their home home field. Last home game of the season. We know that because the Seahawks eviscerated, eviscerated the Niners. So bear down. To all my Bear fans, fellow ones watching, listening, see how it goes. It's been an awesome, super fun season. Would love to have it last at least another week, but if not, it's been a great ride and, and way ahead of schedule.
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Your mindset is exactly the way mine is. Like, when the Mets are in the playoffs, I'm like, like, man, they gave me a whole summer, kept me interested, and now here we are. And you know, I'd love them to win the World Series, but I doubt they will. But man, I'm gonna, I'm gonna have fun today. Like, I get to do this today. Like, that's the way a wild card game, a game, one of a best of five, whatever. That's the way I look at it. I go, I get to do this today. Man, this is crazy. The Mets are in the playoffs today, and I get to do this today. That's the way I always feel. So I'm a little jealous that you get to have that today. And I don't get to have that today. But what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna try to trick myself into, like, caring a lot. So I'm gonna, like, I'm gonna buy wings and stuff. I'm gonna like, get a spread and I'm gonna tell my boys. I'm gonna be like, hey, now, remember, whatever clock. We're all coming downstairs and we're gonna watch the Bears. I'm gonna trick myself into acting like this means something to me because I want it. I want it to mean something.
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I appreciate that. I am. Are you? Last thing we'll get off the, get off the call here. Are you superstitious at all with your sports stuff? Okay, I'm, I'm not super superstitious, but, like, I'm wearing this. This. My. The Sweetness multi patent hoodie. I've, I've worn it I wore last week and they won and they've won at least four or five games when I've worn it. So it's like I gotta, I gotta keep going with the mojo. I'm not super superstitious, but if they've won it, you know, got it. Gotta rock it. So this is, this is an all day, all day thing right here. By the way. Roots of fight. Awesome site. Great. If you like the Peyton jersey, it's, it's available there. So a little free. Pub them. That's a show.
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B
That's a show.
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Air down. Chicago Bears, let's go. And we will see you again on Wednesday morning.
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Shouts to Devin Downey. Shouts to Chester, S.C. shouts to Terry Teagle. Legend Huck Larnell. Thank you guys once again for watching Listening to the I Own College Basketball podcast. If you're not subscribed, please go subscribe anywhere you subscribe to podcasts, Apple, Spotify. There's more of us than there are of them. That should be reflected in the comments. So do it. We'll talk to you again real soon. Till then, take care.
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