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Kansas beats BYU--we STILL have a Darryn Peterson saga; Florida, Illinois, UK, UCF, Michigan IU best Ws of weekend; Saint Louis + Utah St = Sweet 16 threats
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Gary Parrish welcome back CBS Sports Ion College Basketball podcast where we sometimes discuss Campbell Fighting dodo birds and leaky black Matt Norlander is here with me. If you're watching live on YouTube, be Brandon Davies smash. If you haven't yet, subscribe to the CBS Sports I Own College Basketball podcast. Please go do that wherever you subscribe to podcasts like Apple and Spotify. Let's get into it. I want to start at Allen Field House where the matchup between the teams with the two freshmen expected to go first and second in the 2026 NBA Draft was kind of a letdown. Darren Peterson was special early and then he was sidelined again for most of the second half with what was described as co cramps. Barely played in the final 20 minutes. AJ debona was good but not great and slow to get going. Either way, Kansas wins the game 90 to 82 beats BYU was number 14 over number 13 according to the AP poll that will update on Monday. But the story once again, it is Darren Peterson watching a second half unfold. Norlander, good to see you on this Sunday. Can you remember anything quite as, let's just say weird. As weird as the Darren Peterson freshman season to date.
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We got a busy chat by the way, I'm going to remind everyone if you're watching this in real time, if you're late, just smash that like button if you could. Let's get those likes up here on a live Sunday show. Yeah, we're going to start as we should because I think busy weekend, a lot to get to. This certainly feels like the the biggest story of the bunch and there's even a ton to get to within the game parish, but you just want to, you want to just talk all the Peterson stuff first and then get to the game and everything that played out. You want to get to the heart of the matter with Darren Peterson then just get to the other stuff after that.
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Yeah, I mean, you know, the explanation is the same as it's as it's been consistently like he felt something in his quad and and seemingly removed himself from the game. You know, Bill Self said afterwards, like, listen, he's doing everything he's supposed to do, but his body is responding in this way sometimes and sort of it sounds like it's just a shrug of the shoulders. It is what it is until it's not. But yeah, you know, we're 21 games into this thing and this has been, this has been the defining pattern of his freshman season so far.
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It has. And you know, I really wanted to hop on this show on Sunday night in the midst of that first half looking like Kansas was going to cruise to a win. Now it got the win BYU threatened and again, we'll get to that in a few minutes on just the actual gameplay and what played out there. But you know, I'm not, I'm not thrilled to be talking about this. It just never ends. The Twist with Darren Peterson Continue to twist. This dude looked like he could have put 30 on almost any NBA franchise on Saturday. It was his best performance. That dunk in traffic when he should have gotten the and one was a top three play of the season and he's coming off of the ankle twist. He looks otherworldly and in that moment and as the first half played out, you know, DebonSA didn't even take a shot until seven and a half minutes into the first half. It looks like Peterson is asserting himself. I am the guy. I am the number one pick and for many people he very much still is. But I'm going to be interested to see again, maybe this is the last time we ever have to talk about this on this podcast, or at least until draft season. I really hope it is. But I would truly be interested to see and hear from the 30 plus NBA personnel, high level scouts, general managers that were on hand. Is this not entering into the calculus at all? He looks incredible, but he's not finishing games. Here's the here's the breakdown between first half and second half for Peterson, who has effectively played 10 and a half games this season out of Kansas, is 21. He's averaging 16 and a half minutes in the first half, 10.2 in the second half. He's averaging 13.8 points through the first 20 minutes of the games. He's played in on average just seven and a half in the second half. Rebounds three to one and a half, assists one and a half to just 0.3. In addition to his field goal percentage numbers being better in the first half, they are in the second half and his availability just not being there. I have to just invoke what I couldn't help but notice as I watch the game and I'm going to be directly clear about this and I know Kansas fans, some of them might even push back on this. I don't know what's happening here with Darren Peterson. All I can tell you is this. When he went out for the second half and then we found out after the game that it was due to cramps, that may well be true. I'm not even disregarding that it is true. However, Parrish, you and I how many times past 10, 15 20, 25 years have we watched players cramp up in games. And what do you typically see when that happens, particularly if it's a player of note? You see massive hydration. You see grimacing. You see potentially trying to to down some sort of a banana or some sort of food. That'll get you going. You'll see trainers actively trying to assess the situation to get you back in the game. Not always can a player get back in the game. What did we see Paris on Saturday after. Before we knew that it was cramps as it continued to play on. What did we see on TV on Saturday?
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Like, nothing. It looked like he was, it looked like he'd fouled out of the game. Like he just, he's just sitting there.
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I'm not, I am not saying that I don't believe he didn't have cramps. What I am telling you and what anyone who watches this sport on a daily, weekly, monthly basis will tell you, that if a player of real note has cramps, usually the camera's cut away. And that is not what you see. Now Kansas was up. Now Kansas was up big. It has won without Darren Peterson. It has been in this spot before BYU made a massive charge and given that he has had tenderness, hamstring now with the quad, the ankle seemed fine. I get it. I'm, it's. I can't remember anything like this. I can't get enough of Darren Peterson and he won't give us any more. It's, it's completely wild. It wound up not biting them because BYU did really for a minute. Like, I didn't ever think it was going to win the game, but it got to this point where it was going to be in some doubt and nonetheless, KU gets out of it. We'll talk about their next game before we get out of the show here, but it's just, it's just weird. I don't know what to say. I want to see as much of this player as possible. And this has become one of the three or four biggest storylines in the sport this season.
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I'm not going to question the young man's. I'm not going to question his body. If he's saying he's feeling something that he shouldn't be feeling, who am I to argue with that? But it would bother me if I were a Kansas fan and concern me if I were somebody else. Yeah, that, that you don't even look like you're like, you want to get back in the game. Like, like, like if it, if it were. I'm projecting here. But if it were me and I'm like, Jesus, it's happening again. And now that my team's lead is slipping away, I, you would see me on the bench with like my hand up at trying to hey, get him over here. Get them working on me. Get me some do something. And you don't see any of that, or at least it's not coming through on the television. And that would concern me. I, I will take you at your word that you can't play. I don't understand why you don't look like you're trying to get back in that game. I don't get that part.
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And a lot of folks were saying like this, this end, if not ended, it definitively swung the the momentum one player over the other. And again after the season we'll have plenty on Peterson, debons and anyone else for the number one pick. But for the purposes of this, I mean this, this is the other bummer of it. This is the only time these two players are scheduled to meet in their college careers. They would have to meet in the Big 12 tournament. There's no guarantee of that. There's obviously it's even further and longer odds that they would actually find a way to meet each other in the NCAA tournament. So it just stinks that we had this, all this hype, man. It felt like, you know, that was the way that that game landed on Saturday. Just with the schedule. There really wasn't a secondary game that was worth having up in the, in the multi view on YouTube TV or in the quad box. That was a standalone, you know, let's lock in right now. Social media was buzzing about it and Peterson starts off on fire. It's incredible. Debonso is off to a slow start and then BYU makes the big comeback and it's not because of debons them, you know, while Peterson's on the bench and I, I, I, to me, I, I'm just not there on like it's got to be Peterson one no matter what. Very different players, extremely different situations. But the only hang up, the only one that plagued Zion Williamson when he was the no doubt about it, number one pick was what about the injury concerns with his body, etc. Etc. A lot of that has proven to be true. Now Peterson's issue is different but I, I am not yet there and I'm the guy who in the preseason I voted for Peterson as my national player of the year. I put him number one on the best players in college basketball on our annual preseason list Ahead of the likes of prudent, proven guy like Braden Smith. I just have to see more. I don't see why this wouldn't concern you at some sort of level if you're an NBA general manager in especially in a class that is just. I mean we're going to get to Keaton Wagler in a second. This dude is like vaulting into the top five. It's insane how, how much freshman one and done talent there is. I am not at a place where I know some people are and that is like, oh no, Peterson is the guy. It's got to be him. The talent. I agree with you. It's obvious. But we don't like we're not going to take into some sort of stock with some of these red flags through the first. You know, we're about 60% of the way, 65% of the way through the season. I don't know. It's wild team. What are tossing your other thoughts. And then I want to talk a little bit about the game before we keep.
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Yeah, just last thing on this. If I were running an NBA franchise and we had the number one pick and we were drafting tonight, I would still take Darren Peterson, buddy. When he's playing, it's it, it does almost look like a no brainer. When he's playing, it does almost look like as great as DebonSA is, as great as Boozer is, as great as Caleb Wilson is, you name whoever you like. That's got to be the guy. You can't pass on that guy when he's playing. And I'm going to trust that's still what you're getting long term. But I don't like this. If I were an NBA general manager and we were going through this process, these are conversations I would want to have with him. So that BYU game, you were cramping, huh? Right. It didn't look to us like you were trying to get back into the game. Why? Like. Like again, just projecting. But you would have to see me go. I would get back on the court and then you'd have to see me cramp up again. And I'd be like, all right, I can't go. But I gave it a try. You would see me, I would just. I couldn't just sit there like that. I don't think, I don't think. And mo. And this is. This isn't one of those things where. Oh, so the sports writer doesn't. Most basketball players wouldn't just sit there like that. That's what I'm Trying to tell you most basketball players when they are quote cramping, do not just sit on the bench like that. They are getting treated, they are grimacing, they are trying to do something to get back into the game. And you just don't see that with him. And that, that would, I don't want to say it would concern me, but it would bother me if I were a Kansas fan and it would at least be something I'd want to talk about. Because sometimes when you are trying to distinguish between elite talents, like the top 1%, it, it can come down to this stuff right here. You know, above the shoulder stuff like how, how bad do you want it? How are you wired? What motivates you? And I'm not questioning any of that stuff. I'm just saying I, I, I, I would like the. When the camera goes over to that bench, see him over there looking like he's mad and frustrated and doing everything he can to get back out there and play. And he, and there doesn't seem to be that urgency to it at, at all.
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Self also told and credit the field to 68. They had him on late Saturday. He said he thought it might have been a conditioning issue. He twisted the ankle. He really gave it a full go and Thursday and even then he was a little bit gassed. Maybe that is the case tomorrow night, Monday on the road against Texas Tech. We'll get to that before we get out of here. Let's keep it moving. Just talk about the game here because there's a lot here as well. DeBonsa 17 points again, slow start, only one rebound. I wasn't surprised that he wasn't necessarily hunting early and I thought Kansas actually like Self credit to them. They did a wonderful job. I think scouting, evaluating Florida. Badunga had an awesome game. I want to talk about all the other guys on Kansas's roster as well in this the 1000th game. Oh by the way at Allen Field House 878 and 122 is that program in that building since the late 1950s. No surprise that Kansas would win on a, on a, a night like that with a, with a big round number there. And the environment to kick off the game just seemed incredible. Richie Saunders winds up being the guy whose draft stock got the biggest bump of anyone in the building. 33 the majority in the second half. Also had 10 rebounds, a pair of steals, 11 of 19 from the field. He shot BYU back into the game it became. And El Marco Jackson also got banged up. He wasn't able to play in the second half and not having those two, you know, Kansas fans, Bill Self, the staff, they were having flashbacks to a couple years ago when they were just down so many guys. If the game had been 44 minutes, maybe they don't get out of it, but it was a 40 minute game and they get it done there. I give a ton of credit to Richie Saunders, who's an excellent player and we've talked about Texas Tech before. I'm just going to load the clip here, gp and then you take it wherever you want. We've talked about Texas Tech being a team that could have two All Americans on its roster. BYU is not that far behind, like between DeBonsa, who I think is still a first team All American and Saunders, he is, he is cruising in on a crowded field of 15 guys. I feel like there are 30 dudes that are in this conversation right now. Saunders was, was tremendous there. Kansas in the first half, 9 of 12 from beyond the arc, led 53 to 33. ESPN Stats and Information said that the 53 points were the tie for the most ever in the first half that Kansas had ever put on a ranked team under Bill Self. That's outrageous. The team, Kansas finished 11 of 22 from three point range. Five players scored in double figures and Badungo was just awesome in general. Melvin Council junior Had moments in the second half. It's almost like he goes up a switch or two once Peterson is on the bench. I do love this thing that he has cultivated with that Kansas fan base where just, you know, he causes until he got that dog mentality. He's got 5,000 students just barking at him. I think that is, I think that is awesome and really a good rallying cry for that program. And then Bryson Tiller, that's the freshman we got to talk about here. Career high 21 points. 8 of 13 from the field, 3 of 5 from beyond the arc, 7 boards. He really showed up in a big time way. Extremely impressive. For everything about Peterson that wasn't there in the second half, they, they just had guys step up left and right and we have not seen like Kansas right now. Parrish is 16 and 5, 6 and 2 in the league. It's won five in a row. That winning three started with the home win that, no doubt about it, Iowa State victory. They, they really might have something here. Like if, if, if this can be the last time, please, please let it be the last time we talk about Peterson not being able to finish a game. If it can and they put it together. Yeah, then we've got a real situation with Kansas and how dangerous it can be. If Peterson can even be like 85 of what he was on Saturday. And then the last thing, it's BYU and then seriously, take it where you want. BYU right now 04 vs top 15 teams this season has faced significant deficits this season against Yukon, Clemson, Arizona was down 174 to Delaware, down 10 in the first half to Dayton was at one point up 6152 and that flipped to being down 8469 in the loss against Texas Tech. In addition to the stuff against Kansas. To me the loser and I thought this going in, the loser of this game takes an image hit. BYU right now just it's 17 4. That's a good record. But it does not have high end wins. Now it's still going to have more opportunities but to this point, you know, okay, Nova, Wisconsin, Miami on a neutral solid, like you know, those are good wins but it does not have the top end heft and it's going to have to reverse that if it wants to avoid being a 5, 6 or even a 7 seed on selection Sunday. Floor is all yours.
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Yeah, Richie Saunders was obviously among the stories and he'll have that forever. Like there's forever going to be a story he'll get to tell wherever his life goes from here. Yeah, it was the last day of January 2026. I was in a game, top two picks in the draft were in it too. And I was the one that went out and got 33 and obviously he was getting a lot of NBA buzz. You saw that on social media yesterday. Obviously he can shoot it and that's never been valued more than it is right now at the NBA level. He is also 24 years old already and that's the type of thing that will work against him. But like he, he looks the part. He looks the part and I do think however he gets to that league, you'll look up one day and he'll be making shots in that league and, and, and, and you know, probably for years to come. He was terrific inside Allen Field house. That's an all time story for him. Up next for Kansas, oh, it's a quick turnaround. So we'll have some Darren Peterson. I mean we'll get to do this again real quick at Texas Tech on Monday night. Up next for BYU at Oklahoma State on Wednesday. Up next, let's stick in the Big 12 where remained undefeated this weekend with a double digit win at Arizona State. We'll do that next. First though, let's get a word from.
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Final score number one Arizona 87, Arizona State 74. You know I like to keep the conferences somewhat tucked together here so we'll stick in the Big 12, which is where we started. The Wildcats are now 22 and oh overall nine zero in the Big 12. Unanimous number one in the AP poll. Anything new to say about Tommy Lloyd's program? I just wanted to be respectful here and get to them quickly.
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Yeah, we can get to them quickly. I've got a couple of quick nuggets here. 1:22 0 First time in school history, best start and it's starting to look like and there's been some good Arizona teams. There have been some quality Arizona teams over the past two decades. This might be the best one since the final four crew in the early 2000s. You know, we can dive more into the nostalgia and episodes to come here. And Arizona's got a it's in February. There are just some major major games coming. They've had some, they've got even more. But credit to them. This is only the second Big 12 team ever. Now the Big 12 started officially in 96. It was the big eight before then. So since 96 only two teams have have won 22 in a row. This one in the 9697 Kansas team. Paul Pierce, coincidentally enough on hand on Saturday at the Fog. That team was outstanding and coincidentally enough got knocked off in the tournament by the Arizona team that was a four seed and won the national title. Arizona State is 2 and 9 all time against number one ranked teams has never defeated the number one ranked Arizona team. It's now lost 10 in a row to ranked opponents. This is going to be it for Bobby Hurley. His contract ends at the end of the year. Everyone basically knows it at this point they're just unfortunately playing out the string. They actually were competitive for a majority of this game. But you know, one of the things you hate to see if you're an Arizona State fan, like it came through the TV like near the end. They're playing in Arizona State's building and what do you hear? You of a. Yeah, you of a Got overtaken in their own building. Not much you can do about that. We can keep it moving. UCF over Texas Tech. I would now we're getting to it nice and early here folks, because that was a pretty notable result. You might say that might not have been a top five, top six, top seven outcome of the weekend.
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I don't know.
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Man 17 4. This is the best start for UCF since 2003. 2004 that team went 22 and 5 HP in the regular season. It was in the A sun. It got a 14 seed. This team is not going to be a 14 seed. It has multiple wins against top 20 opponents in the season for the first time since 1819. The second Zion Williamson mentioned on the show because that UCF team almost knocked out that Duke team with Zion in the second round. That was an eight seed back then. I'm interested to see where you have UCF right now, if you have them at all in your rankings. I honestly don't know. I want to learn real time on the show because I looked this up a couple hours ago. Despite the good record Average Predictive Team Sheet metric right now, GP45 not viewed as a team that is a threat to win multiple games in the NCAA Tournament. It doesn't. It's actually similar to Arizona in that it doesn't take a lot of threes, but it's pretty good from beyond the arc there. Just 6 of 13 in this game. Got it done. Nonetheless. Only had 11 fouls. I watched the majority of this game. Kind of like the space you blue unis. I feel like that Mojo helped him out all the more and they and they kill Texas Tech on the offensive boards. Grant McCastle's team only had four offensive rebounds. I guarantee you that's going to be like the number one or number two thing. If they practice today. I figure they probably got something in like a big time talking point getting ready to turn around and play Kansas. What were your thoughts on on the outcome either with UCF or ttu topping at 27 and 10, Christian Anderson at 17 9. No one else could do enough to get the win for the Red Raiders on the road.
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Okay, I'll give you my Actual thoughts. First, I agree. I like the uniforms. Second, my prevailing thought was when I'm watching it and you just see the students in the crowd and Johnny. And it just was a reminder of how much conference affiliation can just change everything with your university. I mean, like this.
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Yes.
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Here, here is here, here was my prevailing thought. Watching this game. It broke my heart. It broke my heart because I'm.
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Because we're going to say we're like, we're like 45 minutes removed from Memphis losing at home to.
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Yes.
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Final five seconds. I hear you.
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I mean, just a straight drive to the rim. I mean, what are we doing?
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Preseason player of the year? All the same. But.
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Yeah, yeah. So it's like just take a snapshot of UCF on Saturday and a snapshot of Memphis on Sunday. Like these programs used to be in dramatically different places.
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Oh my gosh.
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And now UCF is storming the court after beating Bill Self in the Kansas or Grant McCaslin and the Texas Tech Red Raiders.
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They've done that too.
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I know. Yeah, right. That's my point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And. And Memphis is losing to tulane in the 10th rated conference in America in front of a nothing crowd. It's just rough. And so I couldn't help but think of that when I. In all seriousness, happy for ucf, obviously. But man, I remember when, I remember when we were looking down at you guys. I remember when we used to look down at you.
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Yeah. Now they're up in space peering down below to you. It's rough.
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You would rather be.
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It is sad and we can keep it mostly to ucf, but I'd like to play to GPS Alma mater. It is a brutal state of affairs that you would so much rather be UCF right now than Memphis. And that was unthinkable as recently as four years ago.
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Yeah, yeah. It's a, it's a, it's a mess. On UCF. I do not have them in the top 25 and one largely for the reasons you referenced, but I did consider them and looked at everything you looked at. So 37th in the net, 45th at Kinpom, but 20th in strength of record. So you can do it if you want to. They are 17 and 4. Three of the losses are Arizona, Iowa State and Vanderbilt. I mean, you know, those are all teams that have been ranked in the top five at one point in the season. The only questionable loss is at Oklahoma State, but even that's a quadrant one loss because it was on the road in Oklahoma State is 66th in the net. So wins over Texas Tech, Kansas, Texas A and M. The team that's first place in the sec. Yeah, you know, I'm just spitting it all out here because we haven't really talked about UCF too much. Riley Coogle, if you're not paying attention as the leading score. Third school for him, second conference for him, only had nine against Texas Tech. But broadly speaking, he's having the best season of his college career. 14.8 points per game, shooting 40% from three. Just a terrific story, Johnny. A little bit like Bobby Hurley, you know, entering the season. There ain't nothing really left on the contract, buddy. You better have a good year or else. In 17 and 4 through the first 21, you.
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You take that every day without question. They could be staring down some losses here upcoming. Yeah, Houston on the road on Wednesday, whatever. 17, 4. It's a huge win. A lot of people in the industry thought Dawkins was going to be out last season. He wasn't. Got another year and good for him. This is wonderful to see. I jury still out on UCF what damage it can do in the tournament. Whatever. This is the win, man. You're 17 and 4. You're in the NCAA tournament picture right now. See if you can hold on to it. And what you mentioned with A M, it's a great. It's a great point. That and the Vandy game at home. Those were games that in November did not flare the radar whatsoever. They are just reminders that these games in November, they might not log as the third, fourth, fifth, sixth or maybe not even seventh most interesting game on a given day that early in the season. But they can come to have amazing amounts of value once we get to this part of the season. Let them all March. So very intrigued by that and. And good on ucf. We'll see if it can win more than it can lose in the back half of its schedule. It's got some favorable stuff here. I think that it will and I think that they're going to wind up. I still believe in them a lot. Themis folks has been like, he's a. He was one of the more underrated players in the country. Honestly. He's been big as of late. Like they've got a real chance if they can peel off one or two wins that maybe they're not expected to. They'll have a single digit next to the name and I dare them to wear the space U unis. And the NCAA tournament, they probably won't. But that would be fantastic if they.
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Opted to do so like you mentioned. Up next for UCF at Houston on Wednesday. Good luck with that. Then at Cincinnati. So this week at least they're going to feel like they're in the American over again. Up next, we're gonna do the weekend whip around. We're gonna start in the Big ten. We're gonna start at what happened Sunday afternoon inside Pinnacle Bank. But first, let's get another word from our partners. Why have we asked our contractor we found on Angie.com to be our kid's.
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Final score. Number nine, Illinois 78. Number five, Nebraska 69. Look who just walked into Pinnacle Bank. It's Keaton Wagler and his Eastern European pals just walking straight into Pinnacle bank and getting a win. Fun game on a Sunday afternoon. Nebraska coming back to earth just a little bit.
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Yes, a couple of notable games on Sunday. This is the obviously the the most recent one to finish. And let's dive right in as a function of the win. Illinois. Let me make sure I had this in my notes. I think this is the case. Let me fact check myself in real time. I think. Now Illinois and Michigan are tied in the Big Ten race. Yes, both are 101 and both top five teams obviously. Michigan. We'll get to the Wolverines in just a second. Now back at number one again with Ken Palm. Them in Arizona keep volleying back and forth. Keaton Wagler again, outstanding. Final 7869 until five minutes to go. This was a tremendous game. Nebraska wasn't at full strength. Now Braden Frager did return. He looked good. Rink mast had to go to the hospital for fluids because he played in the game.
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He was not right though.
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He was 40% at capacity. Yeah, but he gave it a go and played 26 minutes. I give him credit for that. It was a big time game. Illinois, of course, avenges its loss. And not only that, Parrish, I got some nuggets for you here. Illinois has first of all, this is only the third top 10 matchup in Nebraska's history. The second was earlier this week against Michigan. If you're a Nebraska fan, you're just not used to having this all the time. You lose two in a row, but they are top 10 matchups. It can be, it can be tough to swallow. I get all that. Nebraska is going to fall out of the AP top 10. We'll predict that before we get out of the end of the show. Still, good stuff all around. You weren't at full strength and you split with Illinois. You would have taken that at the start of the year. Illinois is now 111 in a row, longest ever under Brad Underwood. Longest winning streak since it started 12 and oh to begin the 201213 season. And Illinois's last loss came against Nebraska. Remember Jamarcus Lawrence hit that three pointer on the road with less than a second to go which really flared and popped Nebraska onto the radar in a major way. Wagler was awesome again. I mean he is a joy. I do I he's like at worst a second team all American right now and he is on a rocket ship. He is phenomenal to watch. He had 28, five and five with a pair of steals in this one on okay so Wagler leads the team in scoring. He's at like 18 a game after this one and assists for 4.2 a game and five boards a game. That's awesome. He's averaging 25 a game on the road. On the road this season. Parish, he's been, he's been outstanding and a number of reasons why Illinois was able to win. Price Sanford had been hot like 20 plus with regularity as of late. He only had 14 here so they were able to stop him there as well. Good performance all around from Illinois. But Wagler remains the story and it's just the rare case. I was talking with Will Warren on Blue sky during the game about this. He thinks that he's Will Warren does a great job covering college troops does some stuff for basket under review in addition to his own stuff and he thinks that he might be that Wagler who was not a five star, not a four star, three star, they said it on the broadcast where Brad never even saw him play in person came from Kansas. Is he the biggest like myth in terms of yes. And just in terms of these, this framing. He's a freshman. He's going to become a one and done. He's going to be a lottery pick and almost nobody recruited him like I just in terms of pure one and done. He, he's near the top of the list. It's an amazing story. It continues for Illinois which is now 183 and has the best offense in college basketball.
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I mean I don't know who the.
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Next one would be. I, I need to like go back and look over the past.
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I mean Trey Burke was a pretty good one.
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He wasn't a one and done. That's the whole point. Like who was a one and done? This dude was not even a projected starter potentially and now could he go fifth in the draft? It's an awesome deal.
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Okay, so I, I can't, I can't grab the player's name right now but there was somebody cup within the past few years because I just remember writing in mock dress over and over again and saying on HQ over and over again it was and he's on track to be the first sub 51 and done lottery pick.
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Chat knows in real time. Help us out here. I just, I've been so busy with stuff I haven't dove so I, I.
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I believe there have been sub 51 and done lottery picks and even maybe a sub 100 but I don't think we've seen this. I don't think a sub 150 prospect one and done leading a power conference school in scoring and about to be a top 10 pick because he is everything they look for at the next level. I mean jumbo sized guard who can, you know, play with ball screens but also knock down a shot at an incredible rate. I mean he's, he's the deal. He's the deal. And I don't clearly nobody saw this coming because he would have had different offers if anybody would have seen this guy.
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Yeah, it's just one thing. It's one great thing after another with this season where there's either team play storyline, there's just stuff across the board like a few mid majors that we'll get to before we get to the end of the show. Teams with really, really good records and then you get woggler like coming into the season, Thomas Lafavisich was expected to be the team's best player with the idea that maybe Big Z could be good. Merkavich had plenty of good buzz and to be clear, Underwood was talking up Wagler in the preseason. And I think we're about the point where everyone understands it's Wagler and not Wagler. I think we crossed that threshold in the past, like seven to 10 days. But even like Stojakovic coming aboard, he was expected to be a guy that popped. It's, it's, it's awesome to see. It's made all the more interesting by. And this is not a shot. Just this one is. He looks 14 years old. Like he's this incredible player and he looks young for a freshman. Love to see it. Good, good stuff out of him. Good stuff out of Illinois, which is really just been an awesome, awesome riser. And just, it was right there with Arizona for hottest teams in the country as just as a function of how it's been winning over the past 11 games. Obviously Arizona is yet to get to lose. Next game is at home for Illinois against Northwestern. There's a biggie next weekend. We'll get to that later in the week. Let's keep it moving. Do you want to get to.
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Well, I was just, I was scrolling. Just recent drafts.
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Okay.
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Bob Carrington was a low rated. Is it a low rated one and done. Lottery pick. That's a pretty good one. And from 2024, there was another one here that I think, I think Reed Shepherd. It's not.
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Yeah, that's a good one. No, that is a good one. Yeah, that is a, that is a great call. And Reed shepherd was, was Reed Shepard a second team all American? Trying to remember what he was. Really good. Now it's going to bother me. Someone in the chat let me know, Reed shepherd, where was, where did he land in all American voting that year? Too much going on. Brain's got too much stuff in it. But Wagler is ascending on a level like Shepard was like the fifth best recruit on the team and he popped. So he is, he is a good recent example. That's a good poll by you Friday night. Michigan 83, Michigan State.
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Oh, I got one. I got a great one.
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Oh, okay. Give it to me.
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This is, this is, I think this is the best one until this one. Taylor Hendricks.
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Oh, that's. Was he, was he one and done?
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He was one and done. Top 10 pick out of Central Florida.
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Yeah, he really got this whole thing going, didn't he?
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Okay, I'm done. We're done with that part of the conversation. But it started. I'm just sitting here like, well, we're done with that. But like Keith Wagner. Yeah. Keith Wagler also, like on the pronunciation thing, he is this season's Thomas Hauck. It Might have taken you a little while to figure out it's how not hall or whatever, but it's.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So Keaton Wagler, and he's terrific. Yeah, let's keep it moving.
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We can keep it moving. Shepard was the SEC player of the year. I know that. But I can't remember if we put them on our second. Second team is going to drive me nuts until I figure this out before the end of the show. Okay, Michigan beats Michigan State on Friday night. Can. Can we flash this photo, please? So good. Can we flash the photo? So this is now watched and you got to go. If you're listening, you might already know it, but on the broadcast they showed this. So Dusty May walked out before. This picture right here is before the game. Dusty May walked out before the game just to kind of take in the scene. And I don't know if this was this. Honestly, this looked to be like at least 60 minutes before tip. Like there weren't. I don't think there were any players that were out there. And he was just looking around and, and the, the vomitorium where he was exiting from was right next to a part of the zone and they're giving it to him and he's got a smirk. And the picture you see here, I want to say this is Dusty for maybe all of three or four seconds, which was an incredible, incredible image from Getty Images here. In fact, I'm going to give the photographer credit here because it was a well done job. Ray Del Rio of Getty Images. Right place, right time. I sent it out after the game on Friday. You cannot tell me that is not already in the halls of the facilities in Ann Arbor before we get to the game. GP I just, I love this because it is so good spirited in the name of a real rivalry with real hatred. And it's just, it's just the right amount of needling. Good job by Dusty here. Before, by the way, had not played the game. So after the fact, it looks all the better.
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I mean that's, that's a. All time picture. I mean that's, that should be hanging everywhere. I, I totally understood his explanation for how he ended up in this situation. It almost felt like, like I can remember being young and it's like, all right, yeah, we're gonna pop into this place and you walk in the front door and the first person you see is the last person you wanted to see. And it's like. But you can't turn around because you don't want to act like, okay, I'll just get at it. So he's like, all right, I guess we're in it. I guess I'm just walking right in here. And he was like, I didn't know they were already out there. I thought I was just going to peek. You know, I just. And then he thought the students were still outside. And then he's out there and they see him. And then it's like, well, I can't turn around and give them that. Like, they, like they, they yelled me back into the tunnel. So I just got to go sit there and take it. And it was a perfect college basketball moment. Like, that is, as I've said many times for many years, there are things about the NBA, the shot making that, that college basketball cannot replicate. But this is the good stuff that the NBA cannot replicate. Like, we get, we get this.
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And this is, this is great one of Parrish. I mean, I know it wasn't the greatest weekend. It was a pretty good weekend. Wasn't the greatest weekend for the sport. We've had like three or four better than this one and we're going to have three or four more that are going to supersede this one. But I just caught myself six or seven times this weekend just taking in the scenes, coming through and being like, yeah, this is why I love this sport. By the way, I couldn't let this dangling thread die. Reed shepherd, we did not have as an All American. That's probably why I can't remember him being one. Nevertheless, he was a top three pick in the draft. Wagler definitely on pace to be an All American. As for when what, what went down in East Lansing, Michigan got a big lead. I mean, they were, they were up 18 at one point and then Sparty roared all the way back, took the lead and then kind of like credit to Michigan, but also kind of let go of the rope. I gave you the stat on Friday show. This was only the fourth win in the past 26 trips for Michigan down the highway there where it pulled off a win at Breslin, obviously a hard, a hard place to, to win at and the Wolverines and, and winning the way they did. Like Linda Borg, 26 and 12. I wondered on the show if he was going to show up in the way that I thought that he might because they haven't relied on him a ton as the way in the way they were in the first month of the season did. So Cadou had three or four vital plays in the final minutes of the game big time. Three that I thought when it went in. I thought that was like going to be the separator. It was. He had 17 and six there. Michigan State on the other side like Jeremy Fears has had. I don't know if you realize this and if anyone watching or listening that you're not a Michigan State fan, you might not realize this. Jeremy Fears Jr. Has had back to back to back games with career highs 17 dimes against Maryland, then a career high 29 in the escape against Rutgers on the road and then a new career high 31 in the game against Michigan. He just didn't have enough help around him. Seven dimes, five boards, four steals. Fierce, had an awesome game. Michigan is just the more well rounded team. It's now 10 and 0 away from home this season. Michigan is 5 and oh against ranked opponents. It is seventh in the country in field goal percentage, 51.5% per game and holding opponents to 36.9% per game. It has the second largest gap of any team between how many buckets it makes and how many buckets it stops you from making the number one team. I'll tell you who it is before we get out of the show. Other thoughts on what went down Friday.
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JP well, I mean it's like you look forward to the game all week. It's in your building and then you come out and miss 14 of your first 18 shots. It's like, yeah, you know, they were down 10, two to start, down 16 at the half. They get back in. It actually took a lead. But then just as soon as they took that lead, Michigan closed on that 28 to 14 run. If you allow a run to last 7 minutes and 19 seconds. And so that was that. Fears was terrific like you said in the loss. And you know, Michigan is now 20 and 1, 10 and 1 in the Big Ten tied top the league standings with Illinois as you noted. So just a terrific performance that served as a reminder. Yes, this is the team that can, that can do the whole thing. They're obviously terrific inside the arc. We talked about that on Friday. But you know they can make shots too. They made shots on Friday night and so they go in there and get that win. Up next for them, Penn State on Thursday. Up next for Michigan State at Minnesota on Wednesday, keeping it in the Big Ten. Indiana 98, UCLA 97 in double overtime in Poly Pavilion Wild game. Trent Perry hits a three with two seconds left to force overtime. Then he misses a potential game winner in the first overtime. And then I use Trent Sicily makes a free throw with less than a second left in the second overtime to give Indiana a win on the road. That's three in a row for the Hoosiers. Back up to the 33rd at Ken Palm. And Mick. Oh, he was feisty in his press conference again. He was, he was. He didn't have, he didn't have much patience for these nonsensical questions from these dummy reporters.
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He didn't. Although we're not going to play it on the show, it did not meet at least my personal threshold for good. Nut for most coaches, that's a good not to. Hey, let's play the video. Cronin. I mean, he was pissed. He was also pissed because, you know, like it was controversial. He thought that the ball wasn't off of ucla. This is in the second overtime. They review it for what felt like six minutes in real time. They give it back to Indiana and then Sicily gets fouled with 0.3 to go. He makes one of two foul shots. It's the winning margin. 98, 97, double OT. Indiana gets the win. Indiana should not have even needed the two free sessions. It was up 10 with like a minute 45 to go. And then UCLA roared back. That Perry three was. When it went in, I was like, they're going to win the game. Like they're going to get this done in overtime. They couldn't pull it out in the first free session. And then Indiana had just enough. But I get why, I get why Mick was pissed. Nick Dorn, 26 for Indiana, just. Okay, let's go. I mean, Jamal Wilkerson At 24, he played well as well. In fact, I want to say Sicily had three points and one of them was the winning, was the winning point margin there. So an unexpected hero for Indiana near the end. That is a win over Purdue and at UCLA, 15 and 7 for Indiana gets them into the projected field. Oh, I had a great note on Illinois. Hold on, let me. I got you Indiana and Illinois because I didn't realize to our CBS Sports research team on this too. I got it just before we went on the air. Strangely enough, this is a crazy low number in the AP poll era. I'm not talking in the past 25 years. I'm not talking the past 35 years. I'm talking back to the late 1940s. There have only been four teams ever to win two games on the road in an eight day span against top five opponents. Illinois just did it. It won last Saturday at Purdue and it won Sunday at Nebraska. I'm not going to trivia time you. Here they are 2122 Oregon did it against UCLA and USC. 2013, 14 Michigan did it against Wisconsin and Michigan State, of course. And then 75, 76 Clemson did it against Wake Forest in Maryland. So Illinois fans, what you've just done, super rare, like shockingly rare, that there just hasn't been more teams been put in a spot to. I mean you got to be. You got to have two road games in an eight this man, I get all that, but only four times ever. Really, really surprising. Good on you Illinois for Indiana. What I was going to say was while there have been some teams that have logged some really nice wins this week, in fact, Michigan probably near the top of that list. I just don't think a team did better for its trajectory GP than iu, which was not in the tournament field. And we now we're on February 1st. Like now I start to bracketology, we can lean into it a little bit more because it's got more validity to as we get closer and closer to March here. It's in the field now. I don't think it was in the field a week ago. And that's a big time double OT win for IU on the road. They've got more work to do. They've got you at USC in a couple days. Home to Wisconsin, at Illinois, at Purdue, home to Michigan State, five of its next seven parish. I think Indiana needs to go at least two and three in that stretch to remain in the big dance, if not three and two, but a good win nonetheless. And oh, by the way, Amari Bailey was in attendance at this game. That's another thing that's happened since we podcasted last. Yes, that Amari Bailey, who got talked about on this podcast, probably more than he needed to be in the 2223 season. He is exploring trying to get eligible and be the next Charles Bediako. He was in attendance at this game. It was apparently alumni night. I don't know if he's trying to go back to UCLA or not, but I'm only noting that he was in the building a day removed from that story. Really catching fire after he went on the Record with ESPN on Friday saying he wanted to get back in.
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On one hand, I don't think somebody who's played in the NBA should be coming back to college basketball.
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Do not say this, I'm begging you.
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On one hand. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind having Amari Bailey's mom back on college campuses. I mean, I ain't. I forgot about her. I ain't really even Checked in on her lately to see how she's doing over on Instagram. I'm gonna need to, I'm gonna need to look her up. I wonder how she's been doing. I wonder what she's been up to. I bet she's been, I bet she's been up to some stuff.
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If almost, I almost didn't mention tomorrow. I think if I didn't mention Omari Bailey was at the, the game. I don't think he gets mentioned on the podcast, but I felt it was newsworthy, relevant, but I knew what I was doing. I just an underhand softball right over the plate.
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If I, if I know, if I know Amari Bailey's mom like I know Amari Bailey's mom, I trust she's been up to some stuff over the past couple of years. I just forgot about her, if I'm being honest.
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And I have too. But you can, you can clear this up for me. She dated Drake or allegedly or their friends, something like that, with the Drake stuff.
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I think they might have been. You know what? It's not for me to say. All right.
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But of her association with Drake that. My, my bell's ringing on.
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That is, that's a, that's a real thing. I believe I, I, I believe they had dinner together. I believe they, I, I think they have a restaurant.
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Do you have the menu?
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I think they've consumed food together. Drake and Amari Bailey's mother, I think have consumed food together. This was back before it was crystal clear to the world that Drake is a master manipulator and a habitual liar too. All right, I forgot about her. I'm gonna look her up so I know what I'm doing tonight. As soon as we're done here, I'm gonna settle in, watch the Grammys on America's most watched network.
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Network, of course.
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Gee, I mean, I'm hoping GNX is going to win album of the year, but they're acting like it might be Bad Bunny.
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Bad Bunny is my pick. I would Kendrick to me, but Bad Bunnies.
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I genuinely think GNX was the best album of this time frame, but I don't think anybody wants to hear what a nearly 50 year old man thinks about. I'm gonna. So I'm gonna watch the gram, I'm gonna watch the Grammys, and I'm gonna see what Mari Bailey's mom's been up to. If I know her, like if I remember her, like I think I remember her, I can trust she's, she's been active. I Can trust. She's been active. I hope she's been doing all right on ucla.
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Yeah.
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Oh, buddy, they could use an Amari Bailey. They lost again. There are now two. Only two preseason top 15 teams, AP poll, that are no longer ranked. One of them. Okay. You want to go, go.
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Well, that's just a lower. If you would ask me to guess, like, I would have probably said four, maybe five. Only two always.
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Like, if you go look at the pre. The spirit of giving credit where credit is due. If you look at the preseason AP poll, it holds up pretty well right now.
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Okay. My gut. So UCLA is. Well, you're saying they're gonna fall out. They're not out or. No, they're out.
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No, they're out.
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They're out there. One of the two.
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There's two. UCLA is one of them. No, crate was not top 15.
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Oh, you're saying top 15. I'm thinking top 25. Sorry.
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Oh, yeah. Top 15.
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Give me the conference sec.
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And you just saw him lose by 25.
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Alabama.
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What? Come on, man. Kentucky and Nashville. Remember going to Nashville.
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I'm thinking today. That's right. Sorry. That's. That's. Hold on. That's a bad job by me.
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That's fine. That's fine. So it is UCLA. Yeah. UCLA and Kentucky are the only preseason top 15 teams that are currently unranked. Next up for Indiana at USC on Tuesday. Next up for UCLA at home against Rutgers on Tuesday. Let's move on to the sec, and let's start with the big result from Sunday afternoon. Number 19, Florida, 100. Number 23, Alabama, 77. Ty golden said he was going to kick Alabama's ass no matter who they had. And, I mean, you know what the.
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He.
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He followed through on his promise. He followed through on his promise.
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If this is among the most notable called shots that emphatically came through in recent memory across sports. He said, we'll beat him anyways. He said it twice, and it was 177. And it was every single bit, every atom of 100 to 77. Florida 72, 26 in the paint. I checked in with the staff afterward that they were extremely fueled by the Betty Ocho thing. You think. You think, dude. GP they went 3 of 13 from three Florida did and got 100 points. They were at 1.29 points per possession with three made threes. That's nuts. Their front court had 61 points, 29 boards, five blocks, four steals. Ruben Chinulu, who, by the way, is the only player in the SEC averaging a double double, he Was outrageous in this game. Just a defensive menace. Incredible game for him. 14 points, 17 boards, pair of blocks. Thomas Hauck was awesome. Alex Condon was terrific. Like Boogie Fland is like the oh, by the way, dude had eight steals. He had eight steals. Florida had two turnovers to Alabama's 18. It was a 25 to nothing points over turnover margin. This was, I mean Alabama didn't force the issue whatsoever. This was definitive, man. Florida's now alone in second place in the SEC behind Texas A and M as a result of this at 7, 2, 16, 6 overall. I think it is now 6 at Ken Palm as a 6 loss team speaks to how efficient they are and the quality of those losses. When they were taking Mon they were 5 and 4 earlier in the season. They've won 11 of 13 overall. Have beaten Alabama five times in a row for the first time in 11 years or so. Just monster team. The, the. The. The front court showed up in a way that when you and plenty of others had Florida preseason top three, top four, it was because of the team they showed to be today. They could have played and defeated with the way they played anybody in the country on their home, specifically on their home floor. Betty Ako, 6.7 rebounds, 4 blocks, 5 fouls. The student section particularly was chanting G league dropout. He was getting harangued the entire game. You go back, this is what you're gonna get. Like he knows and everyone knows that's going to be the deal. Alabama's 2 and 5 against ranked teams this season. GP and NATO has deployed 12 different starting lineups. They got, they got their guys back to be mostly healthy in this one. But impossible not to be impressed by what Florida did there. Like it just, it changed. They were good. Like they took the loss to Auburn, but there were really good week wins this weekend. You tell me was who was more impressive than what Florida did. I don't think, I don't think there's a single team that start to finish was, was better than the Gators.
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Yeah, I can't argue with that. I mean obviously doing that to that Alabama team, that's an Alabama team that at different parts in the season look like he could win the and they just, they just, you know, ran them off the court and the verbal back and forth. It didn't stop with Todd talking about we'll whip their ass anyway. Like Nate had the thing. You saw Nate's thing when you allow.
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Him to stand in the paint for six, seven, eight seconds. I love it. Give me more. I want, I Agree.
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I agree.
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And you know what happened? Florida kicked his ass, kicked Bama's ass. And then afterward they shook hands in the, in the line and got on their, their merry way like, yes, let's go. I love it.
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I, I am, I'm sort of, you know, in the middle of this stuff. Like, I don't like it when, like, I don't really care that much. So, like, but like, when the Ohio State coach can't mention Michigan or the Ole Miss coach can't mention Mississippi State, I'm like, what? What? Like, this seems silly to me. I like it when there can be a rivalry, but one with a healthy dose of respect, like, you. Like, hey, we don't have to hate each other or tend to hate each other just because I work at this school and you work at that school. I like it when the coaches working in this profession can kind of approach it that way. That's the way I think I'd like to be. But I do like it. Every once in a while we get a little bit of this, you know, a little bit of the chirping back and forth. And so that was fun. You know, the, the back and forth between Todd and Nate. Obviously they're two, like two of the very best coaches, not only in the SEC, but, but in the country. And the reigning national champions got the best of the Crimson Tide in this one. Keep it moving. Kentucky 85, number 15, Arkansas 77. Mark Pope gets his revenge while week for the Wildcats get blasted in Nashville. Then to go to Fayetteville beat their former coach. UK has now won six of seven. They led by as many as 13. Led for nearly the whole game. Won it by eight.
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Arkansas. Let's go to the Arkansas part first. Real quick. First loss at home this season. Obviously the result is flipped from a year ago when Kentucky was in the better spot. Was expected to win the game on its own floor. Cal comes in with Arkansas, wins the game and really changes the season for Arkansas. They would go on to make the Sweet 16. Kentucky's coming off just the embarrassing no show. Of course, I saw it in person earlier this week in I.C. nashville, and you just wonder, can they keep it close? They want it. There's just so much, so much with this game, man. By the way, you know, Acuff continues to be awesome, like even in the loss. He's just, he's just an awesome player. Just another amazing freshman. Doug Shaft. Yeah, I'm sorry I have to mention it like this, and I don't typically say a lot of like this this and I tweeted it. So I'm gonna say on the show like, this needs to be disqualifying to work the final four, man. Like there were, there were, there was a hilarious screen cap where it's just a bemused Mark Pope and underneath it it says Kentucky. Three fouls, three technical fouls in the last 38 seconds. When's the last time that happened? Two of the technicals were completely unjustified, especially the one of Modiabate. Like, tell me you saw that. Tell me you saw him just say he said. I think he said let's go after blocking a shot. I know no one. And he didn't even like he didn't even forcefully yell it. And shouts instantaneously gives him a tech. What are we doing in that point? It looks like Arkansas is going to win the game. Kentucky rallied, but GP like you just, he's a long time referee. Like he gets these assignments because he's a good ref. Like they get graded out. Come on, man. You can't do this in Kentucky fans, obviously.
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Stay out of it. Stay out of it. Nobody minded that there's 10 dudes playing basketball on the court. None of them minded what happened except you. All right?
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There's like three or four of these games a year because I like to me a lot of it, like blame the refs. Like that's straight up loser talk. Like me as a Bears fan, like, I, it's the one team that I like forcefully root for. Almost never, ever, ever, ever will I like pin a team's loss on, on the, on, on the officials. I just think a lot of that's cope. But every so often, man, like just as a neutral observer, there will be a game where a crew or a specific official like, it'll outright annoy me and I hit that point in this game. Like Kentucky great on they got, they overcame it. I think there were six texts and a flagrant in this game. And even like the one on Arkansas. I, I honestly that was a makeup tech and you shouldn't even have that to begin with. Whatever. Just that was frustrating to watch. Oh, Otega away 24 points season high. Kentucky has won six of its last seven on the road against Arkansas, which is wild. Also won six of his last seven on the road in the SEC as you mentioned, to get to 15 and seven. There's a couple surprising stats in here. GP. Kentucky held Arkansas to three of 14 from beyond the arc. Good on them. Kentucky is 100 this season when it leads at the half and is 311 under Pope when it leads at the half. Maybe that stat needs to be pinned in every single room, in every single hallway and Lexington to keep the motivation on early. BYU's kind of had that issue. So it was Kentucky wasn't there on Saturday in Fayetteville. The eight point win, courtesy of Kentucky's Sid eight point win was the largest margin of victory for an unranked Kentucky team in a road game in against the top 15 team ever. It's just shocking. There's never been an unranked Kentucky team that won by a bigger margin against the top 15 on the road than what we saw on Saturday. That's, that's pretty wild. And then by beating Tennessee and Arkansas this season, both of them being ranked, it's the first time in Kentucky's history that Kentucky has been unranked and won multiple road games against ranked teams in the sec. These are just shocking. These are shocking to me. Now Kentucky is typically ranked, so that situation doesn't emerge all that much, but highly impressive. Malachi Marino, I thought had a really, had himself a really nice game. Trent Noah, like he pops in, adds nine there. Good on them. If you're Arkansas, this is like talented team. This is just kind of the thing where you know, and Kentucky's had these as well, don't get me wrong. But it just, it feels like there's going to be a couple games where they just can't get it together and they lose when they shouldn't lose. That's the case here. I sent it out on Twitter. Gp Kentucky is just, it's got us all fooled. Routed by Michigan State. Lost the game you shouldn't lost to at home against North Carolina, no show against Gonzaga, no show against Vandy. Got just rung up big time against Bama, but it's also now beaten Arkansas come back big to win against lsu. Got the win over Indiana, didn't have any issues with St. John's it's been trending in the right way. But I am done. I am done trying to predict Kentucky. I'm just telling you that I am now convinced that no matter what I do with Kentucky in the NCAA tournament, I will be wrong. It doesn't matter. I'm going. I'm. I have no. It's a, it's a roving target. But good for Mark Pope. That's a big time response after the obliteration in Nashville earlier in the week.
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Yeah, just circle it back to the technical files. Like go sit courtside at an NBA game and hear the way these people Talk to each other. I mean, I understand different things, but like, we would be wise to move more that direction. Maybe not entirely that direction where every time you make a shot, you tell whoever was guarding you to sud. But like you, you shouldn't be getting a technical foul for saying, let's go. All right, that, that's outrageous. And I. Every once in a while, the refs would be wise to just let it go. It's fine. Nobody's bothered by what just happened. The only person who can make something of this moment is you. Everybody's cool with what just happened. You're the only one who can turn this into something more than it is. Why are you doing it? It's unnecessary. Let's keep it going. Just a few random notable results out of leagues that we're just not going to spend much time on for you.
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Don'T want to give a quick shout to. A M still leads. The SEC wins at Georgia.
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I'm sorry, you're exactly right. I do. A&M 92, Georgia 77. I moved Texas A&M into the top 25 and 1. I got him in it, I believe. Number 2417, 4, 7, 1 in the SEC alone atop the league standings. The computer numbers aren't as strong as maybe you'd like them to be for a team that's sitting alone atop the SEC standings on February 1st. But you know, Bucky McMillan would be the SEC coach of the year right now. I don't think there would be any doubt. They were picked 13th in the preseason SEC poll. I used, you know, 300 something words on them. In the lead at the top 25 and one on Sunday morning. 13th in the preseason SEC poll. Top six scores are all averaging double figures and points. All of them are in their first year in the program. And this is a guy who was a high school basketball coach six years ago and right now he's looking down at John Calipari and Rick Barnes and Todd golden and NATO. You know what I mean? It's an incredible. In a. In a season filled with incredible stories, we got one emerging at A M as well.
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Yeah, A M fans gotta. Not just you're on top of the league. You look over like Buzz Williams, you know, Maryland earlier today on cbs, non competitive against Purdue. Buzz left you for Maryland and now you bring in Buck McMillan. Look how well it's going so far. Six players averaging between 10.3 points and 13.9. He's making it work. Held Georgia to 16 below its season average in this game while hitting its average Going in A M was averaging 91.8 scores, 92 in this one. Yeah, it's just. It's very much working at this point now. It's gonna get more difficult here over the next four weeks, but again, it's just like you're so far ahead of the pace and really, really impressive here. Just. They're a fun team to watch. I know they don't have like tremendous star power, but I'd hesitate on just dismissing this as like a team that might finish top three or four in the sec. And then because they don't have a lot of general appeal, you just kind of write them off. I don't know, man. Like, they are averaging just a shade under 12. Made threes per game. That's top five in college basketball. Like, they can fill it up. Now the next two games at Alabama, home to Florida. So it's about to get really real, but that's mighty impressive. We can keep it moving, but I'll just at least note that Sean Miller got win number 500. Unofficially, he's had some vacated. Oklahoma has lost eight in a row. It is ugly. Texas one on the road at Oklahoma and Tennessee got the win over Auburn. Three in a row for the Vols. Up to 15, six native 22 and eight. Tennessee absolutely punked Auburn on the boards. I think we got to get to the other undefeated.
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Yeah, yeah, I got. I've got some results out of leagues we're not going to spend too much time on for whatever reason. But yes, let's start with the undefeated. The other undefeated team in the country, it's Miami, Ohio. Number 24, the Redhawks. They got 85 points, Northern Illinois 61. So it was another blowout. They remain undefeated. I don't know what new there is to say about this other than it must be acknowledged every time they win until. Until they don't.
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I'll be quick. I have a fact and a nugget for you. Over the past 30 years, there have only been five seasons where we have gotten. Hello, it's February 1st. We have two undefeated teams in college basketball. This is not common. The previous four, the most recent one was the COVID 2021 season which had, you know, cancellation. So even that was slightly affected by it. But. But in 21, Gonzaga, Baylor and Drake all made it to February 1st without a loss. But they were 17, 16 and 160 respectively. We've got Miami and Arizona both at 220 right now. In 13 14, Wichita State, Arizona and Syracuse all got to this point. Wichita State was 2205 on this date. 2405 Illinois and Boston College. You heard me correct. 20042005 Boston College made it to February 1st without a loss. That Illinois team one of the better ones not to win a national title over the past 30 years. And then 0304 Stanford and St. Joe's made it to February without a loss. So a cool rarity. Miami got it done. Was kind of playing with his food a little bit which has been prone to do. We'll see if that bites him in a big way soon. But they get it done. Let's. Let's keep it touring. GP what else pops to you?
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Let's take them just in order of where they're ranked in the AP poll. Number two Yukon 85 Creighton. The Huskies are now 110 in the big east. But it sort of speaks to the state of that conference that this is what they have accumulated in this 110 start in the Big East. 2 quadrant 1 wins. 6 quadrant 2 wins. 3 quadrant 3 wins.
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They got a big one coming at the end of the week. But you're right.
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B
Yeah like they it's this is not their fault. This is not their fault.
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A
Hell no. Because Dan Hurley scheduled the hell up in non correct.
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B
It is not Dan Hurley's job to keep the other biggies programs competitive. He scheduled aggressively in the non league. They did everything they are supposed to do but this is true. They haven't played a currently ranked team since December 9th. You know they haven't played a currently ranked team since December 9th. That's when they play Florida. So they are awesome. Undefeated at full strength. But there's just not much resistance for them in in the Big East. Next up they got Xavier at home on Tuesday and then the big one you mentioned It's Friday night St. John's at at Madison Square Garden.
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All right so UConn is 110 in league. It's only the third time that's ever happened. 98.99 won the title. 95 96. They started 140 in the old Big east there. Braylon Mullins came back. He missed the previous game with the concussion, had a game high 16 points. Caravan Demery both had 15. Creighton unfortunately it is a fall off one to six in quad one games. Before we go to the next game though Dan Hurley did provide a good quote post game because he got asked what it was like to play against Creighton and no longer have to worry about Ryan Kalkbrenner compared it to, you know when they didn't have Klingon last year and adjusting to a certain extent. But he did, he did segue into a more contemporary hot topic in college basketball. Quick video. Let's watch it real quick right here. When you lose like the most impactful player in the country on defense. So obviously he's playing great in the NBA, starting and doing awesome. So I'm just grateful that there's no chance that he's going to try to come back to college. I don't and I don't think your judges, I think the judges in Nebraska, they wouldn't do that. Is that it?
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Yep.
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Thank you. Yeah, that's. That's another F bomb from Hurley in the post game. And Ryan Cbrenner I don't think in any danger of trying to return to the sport. So Hurley just, you know, they get the win and he's going to make sure his opinion is well known on that. He obviously went on the record with me back in January. Who's next? Want to talk Duke?
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Yeah. Out of the ACC, number four, Duke 72. Virginia Tech 50 58. The Duke and Yukon stories are pretty similar. They're just, you know, they're both sitting here as one loss teams. They're both in the top five. They both aren't being pushed by anybody in their league because the leagues are down relative to where you'd like them to be. Just like I mentioned, UConn hasn't played a currently ranked team since December 9th. Duke hasn't beaten a currently ranked team other than Louisville since December 6th when it it beat Michigan State. So they're terrific. But the schedule just hasn't given them much in the league. 20 and 1 overall. 90 in the ACC. Up next, Boston College at home on Tuesday. So it's another one of them. And then finally on Saturday it's at North Carolina. So you know, that'll break that streak of.
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Of whatever. Yep. And we'll talk about that later in the week. Duke is 311 and it's last 32 games against ACC and Shire just went undefeated in January. He has been undefeated in five months since he got this job. December of 24th, January 25th, March of 25, November of 25 and now January 26th. He had five times he's gotten through a month without a scratch. Virginia Tech is 1 in 5 in Quad 1 games this season. It's actually got some talent. The lone quad one win was in three overtimes at home against Virginia. It is a good team but it has to show it in February. It is going to be Running out of room with a quickness. I actually thought this was a missed opportunity. Duke's really good. What can you do? But if it had gotten the win win it really done a boost for its profile. What about Gonzaga? Late night on Saturday GP I stayed up to watch the whole thing. You know, one of the final two, if not three meetings against St. Mary's is WCC compatriots there. Gales. That's another team. Like they're 03 and quad one this season. 19 and one in Q2, three and four. But oh and three and quad one couldn't get it done. Best free throw shooting team in the nation. Makes better than 80 of its foul shots. Went 23 of 25 from the line in hostile territory. Wasn't enough. Lost 73 to 65. Gram Ek was back from that ankle injury. 30 points in 37 minutes. I thought Gonzaga's defense was one of the best efforts in the entire season. It was extremely impressive for they knew what the game meant. That game means a ton, obviously. Every single year. Gonzaga went to 15th in a row and they were sharp, man. They were super sharp. Obviously you just saw them in person all of a week ago. Where do you have the Zags in your rankings and any thoughts on what went down there late on Saturday?
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The Zags are. Well, I can tell you the Zags will be tomorrow morning when I update. The Zags are going to move up to number five in the top 25 and one. They're terrific. Ek looked rested and healthy. He was fabulous after missing a handful of games. It was always a pain tolerance thing, I was told. And he was close last Saturday. It was always clear he was going to try to go in this one and he was terrific and does AGs are in this last run through the WCC. You know, Mark's going to win a 23rd WCC regular season championship and I talked to him a little bit about this last week. Just are you looking forward to leaving? Are you enjoying the final trip through? And he said they, they are trying to like take it all in a little bit. Like, hey, this is the last time we're going to go here and this is the last time we're going to go here. And though he and everybody else there makes it clear like they have really enjoyed everything about the West Coast Conference. I mean it's been a great home for them. They built this monster in that league. But are they looking forward to like seeing some new places in January and February, going to some new buildings, flying into some new airports? Yes, yes, they are looking forward to that and but before they do that they're gonna, they're gonna get one more, one more trophy with the WCC on.
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It that can we get some mid major love before we get. Get out of here and start looking ahead too?
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Yeah. Number 21St. Louis 102, Dayton 71. St. Louis is remains among the one loss teams and I wrote about this last week at the top 25 and one like they're really close to not being a one loss team to being undefeated. I mean it's a, It's a Stanford 3 at the buzzer.
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Oh, was it okay. I thought they fouled up three and it backfired them. I think that's what I could be wrong. I thought that was the situation there. But really close.
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I thought.
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I think maybe they didn't foul up three.
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Yeah, I think, I think it's. They didn't foul up three or, or. I don't know but I think somebody buried banged a three on him at the buzzer at Stanford and if that shot misses. St. Louis is sitting here right now as an undefeated team. They're good. I mean they're good.
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Yeah.
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And that building, that building's great.
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Like I'm trying to maybe get to that building in February by the way. I got to see if travel plans will work for it. But. But Shirts is. He's going to be the hottest name on the carousel. I've never been there. You are right. And I know we're running long on a Sunday but there's a ton and I'll try and get us out of here relatively quick. St. Louis needs a little bit of love here. If that. If they had beaten Stanford. St. Louis is a massive story for the past month and in fact it's a little bit of it is on a podcast like this that we haven't talked about them more but parish 102.71. This is the team I referenced about 45 minutes ago. Number one effective field goal offense. Number one effective field goal defense in the country. Man, they are extremely good. Okay. They have the greatest differential in their overall field goal percentage and how much they hold you to on defense. Michigan was number two. St. Louis is number one. Seven games of hitting the century mark this season. Four and one in quad one and two. Seven guys average at least nine or better on this team. Robbie Avila obviously the biggest star but they really are doing it by committee. Shirts is a. Is a wonderful tactician. They're an outstanding team and. And they're about to get their glow up and deservingly so because at at 21 and 1 now GP right they Gonzaga's not even major and St Louis is better than Miami. This is the best mid major team in the country this season and if it can keep this up and get to out of February with it's 21 and 1 now it's projected to win on an individual basis every remaining game but if they can get out of February with just two losses like big time stuff is coming. I I do think that if it keeps this up that number one effective field goal offense defense stuff is ridiculous like final four dark horse material. Maybe dark horse is even is selling them short legit legit team for shirts who not going to speak for him because I haven't talked about him I talked to him about this at all. He will have his pick of jobs if he wants it. Maybe he loves it at St. Louis and wants to wait it out a year. We've seen that plenty. I'm just telling you he is killing it immediately again in year two. There's going to be some jobs that come open and he will have his pick of the litter if he so chooses.
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Okay, we were both wrong. Here's what happened. St. Louis, Stanford Billikens were up three late. There is a foul, Abuka Okori makes the first, then they miss the second. They did foul up three make the first miss the second. Offensive rebound Benny Giller made three pointer with two seconds left to to give Stanford the 78:77 win.
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A
We were both right.
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So if Keeler misses that shot, St. Louis is still undefeated or if like you know, they don't grab that offensive rebound, St. Louis is still undefeated. Just I mean right there. It's a terrific story and I am I remembering this right? There was a report over the past week or two about St. Louis reaching out to the Big East. Did you read this?
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A
Yeah, I actually had something on this in the court report a couple weeks ago where there it wasn't St. Louis, it was politicians on behalf of Dayton and St. Louis basically sent the letter and then they kind of leaked it it and then just when something like that happens I want to just check in. I then got told by like Big east affiliated people like hey this is not the way to do it and in fact you might have hurt your chances by how you handled this. So not that St. Louis couldn't thrive in the Big east, but I was told there is no momentum right now for either of those schools for candidacy despite the politicians lobbying for it to happen earlier this Year, that's fine.
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But it is a thought I've had about St. Louis particularly since it built this building because like you, you know, when I was in college I think Memphis was in a league with St. Louis. So I had been, I was familiar with the program. You've got the market. It's a, it's a major league market, a really nice on campus building. Like what, what would prevent St. Louis from being Xavier other than the Big east affiliation and the right coach? Like I don't know, smarter people than I can answer that question. But I've always thought if you just gave that exactly like what we were talking about with Central Florida earlier, give them the power conference affiliation and then it'll go. I've always thought with St. Louis basketball, if you put it in the Big east it would start to look like a Biggie's. It would start to look like a biggest program.
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I think there are slew fans right now that are like music to our ears. We believe this for two decades. I'm not even saying that you're wrong. I just think the Big east right now still likes the fact that it's got the 11 team, double round robin, 20 game, all that kind of stuff. Yeah, we'll see. We have a couple people in the chat that have been asking for this. We were always getting to it. CBS gave us a really entertaining game. Utah State, San Diego State. The Aggies won 71, 66 get to 183 now tied with San Diego State in the Mountain West. Both are 9 and 2. Carson Templin off the bench team high 18 points. MJ Collins and Mason False live who are, you know, one of the best 12 duos in America and certainly at the mid major level they just combined for, for 20. They Utah State was leading the league in, in paint scoring in general and they matched it again. They were averaging 40 points in the paint. They hit that exact number against San Diego State was a big key to getting them to get that win because San Diego State is pretty good on the interior. Like it doesn't allow you more than 20, 22 points in the colored area on a, on a nightly basis. Utah State owned it and they, they shut down. I think I mentioned this on the show Friday. San Diego State's got one of the deepest benches in the country and they really didn't get a lot of production from their bench on Saturday. That was another awesome and that that building is always awesome, but another incredible environment. Robbie Hummel on the call. Love that he got that, got that mixed in that was really cool. I'm. I haven't texted to ask Robbie. I'm almost positive that would have been the first time he ever was in that building. I'm sure he loved it. It was on fire. And credit to Utah State. San Diego State averaging 81 going to the game. I mentioned that on the show on Friday. Held to just 66 here. So that's another team, like not that far off of St. Louis, to be honest. It's two more losses, but second weekend threat. Absolutely. Utah State really, really good stuff out of Jared Calhoun, who. Yes. I mean, we joked about this on the pod before. Utah State just unfortunately, like every two years has a coaching candidate on the carousel. Calhoun will also be another one that will be ripe for the picking if he opts to leave. Not saying he will. This is just how it goes, man. You coach at Utah State, you get in the tournament. That's right. 80s and search terms are going to find you. Jared Calhoun's name will be on that list in a few weeks. Here.
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Utah State's best job in the country. It looks like Nobody loses there one after another. Like, I feel like I can win 27 games at Utah State. Just give me the job. I'll go win 27. I'll go win 27 in year one. That building is awesome. And I, it, I did appreciate like, you know, we're going to have the Purdues in the Marylands too. It's America's most watched network. But I did like on Friday night on CBS Sports Network, we had an Atlantic 10 building looking awesome. And then Saturday on CBS, we had a Mountain west building looking awesome. Like, you know, it's never been harder than it is right now to, to maintain success in those leagues, I think. But, but you've got two examples of it happening right now and, and we got to see them both on, you know, on television this weekend. M.J. collins, I had mentioned we had a Utah State game in studio few weeks back. There was a moment in time when Utah State was ranked. His shooting percentages were crazy. And it was like, if this stays where it is, he's going to be an All American. He could still be that, but he has been struggling to shoot it lately. 3 of 14 in this one from the field, 2 of 9 from 3. He's still above 51% from the field on the season, which is great for a little guard. Still above 40% from 3. Terrific. But those numbers were much better six games ago. He hasn't shot better than 33.3% from beyond the arc in six straight games. So nice win. But if they're gonna, you know, do everything they're, it looks like they're capable of doing, he's got to get back to, to, to to making shots a little more consistently than he's been doing lately. But I'm sure, I'm sure he knows that.
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Let's keep it moving. One quick news here. We can just keep it moving though. Just surprising. Mark Turgeon, former Maryland coach. He's going to be the next coach at Kansas City, formerly umkc. The branding is Kansas City five year deal. It was announced earlier on Sunday. Good on him. I actually had talked to a coach recently who said he talked to Turgeon about a year ago. Maybe a little lesson. It seemed like Turge was all too content to, to, to not return, but they got him done. That's an amazing gift for Kansas City. Turgeon. 10 NCAA tournaments, more than 450 wins. So a mid major note there. Good on him. Marvin Menzies is coaching out the string of the season. Turgeon will take over next month and and we have our first coaching vacancy filled on what will obviously be a busy carousel. You want to look ahead to the AP top five top ten here. I know you want to pick the top five. That's not hard. Like top ten. I actually think we're gonna have some real, some real turnover here.
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All right. First though, I want to get one more word from our parts. I don't think nobody will get mad at me if we pay some bills one more time. So let's do that and then let's come back and let's look ahead.
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All right, before we look ahead to the next couple of days, let's predict the top five of Monday's Associated Press Top 25 poll. Norlander, I'll give you first stab at it. And if you want to get wild and try to go six through 10, get wild. Go through six through 10.
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I'm gonna go no, how about this? I'm gonna serve it right back to you. Okay, give me the top five. I think we will agree and then I will give six through 10 because that's when it gets a little bit hairy here. So one through five. I don't think. I don't think we'll disagree whatsoever on who will be 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.
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I don't think it's hard to get this. Arizona will continue to be number one at 22 0. They've got nine quadrant one wins. They are number one in strength of record, projected favorite in every remaining game, including games at Houston and at Kansas. That's wild. Arizona will likely be the unanimous number one in the AP poll again. Number two will be UConn 21 and one overall, six and one in quadrant one. Undefeated while at full strength. Obviously they've got that one loss, but they were down two starters in that game. Number three, it should be Michigan, 20 and one overall, eight and oh in quadrant one, seven and one in quadrant two. So they do have that one home loss to Wisconsin. They're the only team in this collection of teams in this conversation that have a loss outside of quadrant one. But they should still be third in the AP poll on Monday. Duke should be number four at 20 and one. Loan loss to Texas Tech by a point. They're nine and one in quadrant one, number one in BPI, if that matters to you at all. And at number five I think it'll be Gonzaga 221 overall, 31 in quadrant one loan loss to Michigan by 40. But outside of that they've been excellent. Slightly different than what the top 25 and one will be. Same five teams, just a slightly different order. I will have the top 25 and 1. Arizona at number one, UConn at number two, Duke at number three, Michigan at number four, Gonzaga at number five. But the AP poll should be Arizona, UConn, Michigan, Duke, Gonzaga. I'm sure you agree. Take it from there.
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Okay, so six through ten. Let's look at it. Well, the highest ranked team that lost this week, it's going to be Nebraska. It's going to fall out of the top 10 because it lost at home to to Illinois and lost against Michigan. Huskers set a program record. Never had been as high as number five in the AP top 25. I think it slept slips more than five spots as a result of Los losing two games. The next highest team that lost was number seven, Michigan State. Now it struggled to win against Rutgers in overtime. Then it lost at home to Michigan. I will predict that Michigan State and I I might be wrong. I'm gonna say it falls out of the top 10 narrowly. I think Michigan State will be number 11 which then leads us to number 8. Iowa State did not lose. I think Iowa State gets to number six. Yep. I think Illinois as a result of winning against Nebraska and continuing this huge winning streak, Illinois will then jump up to number seven. Illinois was number nine heading in this week. Houston did not lose this week. Houston was is number 10 here on Monday. I think it jumps up to number 8 and then 9 and 10 gets gets interesting. I could be wrong about Michigan State and maybe voters will say Michigan's really good and because of that we're just not going to drop them. Kansas was 14th this week. I think Kansas jumps up to number nine. It beat BYU. It was a high profile game. It's the highest ranked team not to lose. Like Texas Tech lost to UCF. Purdue outside of the top 10 lost to Indiana in the past week. BYU lost twice. It's not going to jump. Kansas is next in line at 14. I think it jumps to nine. 15 is Arkansas. It lost which means I think the North Carolina Tar Heels will return to the top 10 and narrowly edge out Michigan State. UNC beat Georgia Tech. Wasn't much of a game. Give me the Tar Heels to finish out the AP top 10 on Monday with the refresh just ahead of Michigan.
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State at 11 the top 25 and one won't be exactly that. I think I'll probably keep Nebraska in the top 10. I think body of work is still going to be top 10 worthy in that range. But yes, I do think it goes. Iowa State at 6, Illinois at 7, Houston at 8 and then I might go Nebraska 9 and then Michigan State at 10 and that would be the top 10. But either way the top of the poll should shouldn't be hard to guess. I, I bet a decent amount of money we got that right. Let's look ahead to the next couple days on the schedule. On Monday, two games involving ranked Syracuse at North Carolina and Kansas at Texas Tech. Obviously the big story in that second one, will Darren Peterson play? If so, how much?
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Yeah, and we might even get a little bit of like does Caleb Wilson go off at home against a whatever Syracuse team? Wilson's been tremendous. He's a top 10 player in the country. He's knocking on the door of. I mean with a lot of guys the competition for first team All America status is incredibly competitive and I couldn't love it more. I'd be interested to see how he shows up in this one. Can he get UNC a fourth one in a row? Should be able to do so. And then the second game. Yes, it is all eyes on what Darren Peterson can do on the road. Texas Tech coming off the loss here, just a fantastic matchup in general. Tech had won five in a row before taking that loss to ucf. So that is quite literally appointment television. I will be on CBS Sports HQ both before and after the games on Monday night for for recap and highlight and analysis purposes. What do we have on Tuesday?
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On Tuesday I will be in studio. CBS Sports Network. We're gonna have a triple header. 7 o' clock, Eastern Saint Bonaventure at Dayton. 9 o' clock Eastern Saint Louis. Billiken's back on our air at Davidson, 11 o' clock Eastern Wyoming at San Diego State. And then of course at 1am we'll have a 30 minute edition of Inside College Basketball. Elsewhere in the sport, no great matchups, but we do get undefeated Miami Ohio at Buffalo.
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That's one to watch for sure.
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St. John's is at DePaul. Virginia is hosting Pitt. North Carolina State is at SMU. Indiana trying to extend its winning streak at USC. Ole Miss at Tennessee. Any of that interest you?
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Indiana? USC is the most interesting one to me. Can Indiana keep it going? USC 50th at Ken Palm GP 166 has lost three of its past five had a close home win against a bad Rutgers team. So there's a lot of urgency to that one. NC State SMU might be better than people realize. That's a 9 eastern tip on Tuesday. Keep an eye out for that. We will have no shortage of stuff to talk about on Wednesday morning. But if I'm accurate, yeah, we got a Tuesday show, don't we?
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I think we got a Tuesday show. I think we got a network.
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So a little bonus pod for you. Watch if you can on CBS Sports Network live on Tuesday or set your YouTube TV or DVR if you want to watch us on TV. It's like the podcast, only it's a little bit different. And, and I think we'll have some good stuff waiting for you there on Tuesday. Tuesday.
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All right, that. I think that's a show. Let's go watch the Grammys.
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That's a show. I got to put the kids down. Watch the Grammys. Have a. Have a good night here. And I know we went long, but GP this was a, a really notable weekend. So thanks for, thanks for entertaining me and, and really just let me vamp a little bit here and there. And to everyone that watched, listened, hope you enjoyed it. February's here, folks. Come on now. Come on now. We are, what, six weeks away. Selection Sunday. It's going to be here before you know it.
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Album of the year unless they. Unless. Unless they rob him. Album of the year unless he gets robbed.
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There it is, everyone listening. He's got the vinyl. He's got the Kendrick vinyl right there.
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Let's go watch the Grammys. Shouts to Devin Downey. Shouts to Chester, S.C. shouts to Terry Teagle, legend Huck Larnell. Thank you guys once again for watching. Listening to the I Own College Basketball podcast. If you're not subscribed, please go subscribe anywhere you subscribe to podcasts like Blossoms.
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Hey, don't sleep on New Miserable Experience. Elite album did not win album of the year. In retrospect, maybe it should have.
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Man, I never forget the day I saw in the Memphis Flyer that the Gin Blossoms were playing at the Dog Tracks over in West Memphis. And I was like, oh, man, what happened?
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They still, they still do their thing, man. They do favorite records of the 90s, too. It's very, very good.
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They do their thing. If there's one thing I know about the gym Blossoms, an Amari Bailey's mom. They do their. They do their thing. They do their thing. If you're not subscribed, please, please go subscribe anyway. Subscribe to podcast Apple Spotify more of us than there are of them. That needs to be reflected in the comments. So do that. We'll talk to you again Tuesday, one o' clock Eastern. CBS Sports Network. Till then, take care of.
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