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Eye On College Basketball
Kansas creams ISU, ending the Clones’ unbeaten run; UConn escapes Seton Hall; UT escapes A&M; Bucky escapes Minny + everything else from Tuesday night
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Gary Parish
Hey Sal, Hank, what's going on? We haven't worked a case in years.
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Matt Norlander
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Gary Parish
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Matt Norlander
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Gary Parish
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Matt Norlander
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Gary Parish
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Matt Norlander
Hey there. I am Gary Parish. Welcome back CBS Sports Sports. I own college basketball podcast where we sometimes discuss camel fighting, dodo birds and leaky black. Matt Norlander is here with me. If you're watching on YouTube, be Brandon Davies. Smash it a little bit. If you haven't yet subscribed to the Iowan College Basketball Podcast, please go ahead and subscribe to that. Wherever you subscribe to podcasts like Apple and Spotify, let's get into it. And obviously there's only one place to start on this Wednesday morning. The place is Allen Fieldhouse. Final score Kansas 84, Iowa State 63. Roughly eight hours after I suggested on CBS Sports Network that Iowa State could be the last remaining team in college basketball, the Cyclones went out and they lost to to Kansas inside Allen Field house. And the game was never close. Shucks, I missed again nor later. The floor is yours. Iowa State is now 16 and 1. I was wrong.
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Gary Parish
What you know if you didn't watch the Tuesday show on network or hitting the feed yet.
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Matt Norlander
I hope you didn't. I hope you didn't.
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Gary Parish
I. I hope you think it makes the show that much more entertaining. No one no one forced you to say Iowa State would be the last undefeated team. But you're like, what the hell?
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Matt Norlander
I'm seriously thinking about, like, I need to talk to a therapist about what I've been doing. Because, like, in the past, like week plus, like, I remember who I used to be. I remember what I was. You ever lose track of yourself? I used to be that guy. You ever lose track of yourself?
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Gary Parish
I try not to.
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Matt Norlander
I. We all should. But sometimes you lose track of yourself. I remember a version of me that was like on average 46% boilermaker and an undeniable building truster. And I have found myself in the past week plus suggesting that maybe, just maybe, Bennett Sturts belongs on a first team All American, like a roster more than Braden Smith at Purdue. That's damaged my relationship perhaps in ways that can't be fixed with Purdue fans. And then like, I'm a building truster. You know me.
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Gary Parish
Apparently not.
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Matt Norlander
I sit here. Yesterday, I picked against Alan Philos. I have picked against Braden Smith and Alan Fieldhouse within the past week. Plus, I don't even know who I am anymore. I've lost my way.
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Gary Parish
Don't get it, do you?
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Matt Norlander
You don't. I've lost. I've lost my way. I've lost my way. This is a. I need to look in the mirror. I need to do some soul searching. I've lost my way. I don't feel. I'm not proud of who I've become.
- [04:27]
Gary Parish
Yeah. I tell you, the only building that I do trust is the one in Lawrence, Kansas. And damn, did it show up again on Tuesday night. I was of course in Newark. We'll get to the Yukon Seton hall stuff in a little bit. But I was watching. I was watching. Not all. Plenty of this game obviously had post game press conference stuff and all that stuff, but it was. It felt effectively over in the first half anyway. Parish Kansas 84, Iowa State 63. It was the most points Iowa State has allowed the season. Bill self is now 26 and 22 when he plays a top five team. To be above.500 in your career with, you know, nearly 50 results against top five competition is. Is incredible. Credit to Optistat for this nugget. Kansas's win on Tuesday night was the quote, largest win by any Division 1 team against an opponent that was 16 or 0 or better entering the game since February 26, 1972 when Detroit beat 220 Marquette by 21 points. That was pre Dick Vital Detroit, if you are curious. Couple more notes. Kansas's margin of Victory on Tuesday night was its largest against the top five team since 1995, 1-28-95, when it beat Yukon 88.59. And what a significant win for the Jayhawks. They shot well, hit what, 10 threes, 13 12, 13 12, 37 in the first half. They had ISU down by 21 at the break. And I know ISU made a little bit of run coming out of the, coming out of the intermission, but didn't matter. Trey White was, was awesome. Darren Peterson had, I'm not going to call it a ho hum game, but he didn't need to be an absolute stud in this one. And I thought this was a key result for, for Kansas. Get back, get back to your ways, your ways of, of showing the Big 12 that you can be a force to be reckoned with. Coming off the loss, you know, the no doubt about it, loss against West Virginia on the road. And Here you go, 84.63. You knock the the number of unbeatens from five down to four and in the process level out at two and two in Big 12 play with Baylor coming to town next. On Friday, you were in studio in midtown Manhattan. What did you make of what went down at the Fog?
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Matt Norlander
Well, like, first and foremost, I don't think anybody needed to win on Tuesday night more than Kansas needed to win on Tuesday night. Just not because a win would propel them into the top 10 or a loss would knock them out of the projected brackets, but because, like, you're Kansas and you're not supposed to after having your worst year under Bill Self, followed by your new worst year under Bill self, then start 1 and 3 in the Big 12 because all the things that people have been saying, whispering, they just get more emphasized because here's another year that's not going the way it's supposed to go. So I thought tonight, last night was massive for that program and for Bill. And they showed up like you said, like the game was never close. I mean, I guess it was 0, 0 to start by definition. But Kansas took control of it quickly and never, ever, ever let go of it. Yeah, Iowa State made a run beginning of the second half that cut it to a place where you were like, okay, look, maybe. But then it was never any closer than that. Darren Peterson wasn't great, but he still had those moments where it was like, okay, there it is. I see it. You always have to remind yourself of this. There are people who work in the NBA, they do this for a living. Their careers revolve around it. Selecting players and we have seen AJ debons to be awesome. We've seen it like game after game after game. Like nobody's done this in the Big 12 as a freshman other than Trae Young. We talked about that just the other day. He's unbelievable. Cameron Boozer, unbelievable. Darius Acuff, like, you go through this freshman class like it is locked and loaded. Arguably the best freshman class of all time. And yet when you talk to anybody who works in the NBA, even while Darren Peterson was sitting on the bench coming out of games holding his legs, they said that's the guy. You don't pass on him. He's the number one pick in the draft. And though last night, Tuesday night wasn't the best example of that, there were still moments in that game. A little floater at the elbow, a pull up three in somebody's eye that like you don't even take that. And he took it confidently and buried it. There were so many moments in the game where it was just like, okay, that's, that's, that's it. And so we'll see where it goes going forward. But he spoke to the media after the game. That's not new. But it's the rare in the season and it seems like that program is moving past all of the stuff that's sucked all the energy out of everything throughout November and December. And it seems like Darren Peterson is going to be available, fingers crossed, you know, 30, whatever minutes per game going forward. And if you've got one of the best coaches ever and one of the best talents ever, because that's the way people describe Darren Peterson and enough pieces around him, they've got an opportunity to like maybe not win the Big 12, but like certainly not be all of the things that people have been saying Kansas basketball might be in recent weeks. And so I thought last night was massive for them and, and they showed up.
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Gary Parish
Yeah. On that note on where they wind up, that's our poll question. We'll get to that in a few. Where what stable Kansas have when we actually start the Big 12 tournament in mid March. As for, as for Peterson meeting with the media, I actually think that is notable. It was time to, to end that. He had not, I believe he had not met with the media since Big 12 media.
- [10:40]
Matt Norlander
Let me stop you, Let me stop you there. I sat down with him at Big 12 media day. We, we did a one on one on camera. You can find that on YouTube on the ion college basketball. He was a pleasant, impressive young man. And everything I've ever heard about him is that he's a pleasant, impressive young man. Like Bill Self talks about him. You, you, you, you were there. Like Bill Self. Like on camera, Bill Self talks about him glowingly. Off camera, Bill Self talks about him perhaps even more glowingly. Yeah, like it. And so, but, but the point I was going to make is I saw somebody say this is the first time he's talked to the media since Big 12 media day. And then I saw that corrected.
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Gary Parish
Okay.
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Matt Norlander
And suggested that maybe he did talk after the North Carolina game. Either way, he hasn't talked much. So last night was cool.
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Gary Parish
Appreciate the, the correction there because I saw that going around last night as well and it made my eyes eyebrows perk up because I'm like, really hasn't, hasn't talked to the media, period. But you know, he wouldn't have played a lot of games. There would have been reason for him not necessarily to have been plopped down at a table or at a deus, but good game out of him. Trey White was a Trey White doing what he did in this game in specifically in particular, a lot of encouraging signs about and I know the home crowd was that they just, they had a game plan, they executed it, they played well. Kansas is not especially deep. I think that's going to bite him plenty in league play here. But that was impressive. On the Iowa State side, you get picked off. I know that building, generally speaking, is a bugaboo, as is for your program, as it is for most programs, but you know, you're off to a 160 start. You're, you're 16 and 1. The schedule does benefit you more than not in my opinion, over the next couple of weeks. So will not surprise me if we get to the end of the month and Iowa State still only has one loss. Shrug it off. It's tough to win there. Good league. Yeah, you didn't have your, your best night. So so goes it. Kansas needed it way more than ISU did and if anything, it makes what we talked about on Tuesday's network show the expectation that this is going to be just one awesome league race that could very well end with multiple teams finishing atop the leisure. Kansas winning the way that it did just brought that much more intrigue to it unquestionably because now you put up a game like this, you put that on tape and everyone knows what you are, you are capable of on, you know, on any given night.
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Matt Norlander
I, I said it on Tuesday's network show. It seems more clear after last night. You could finish fourth or fifth in the Big 12 and win the national championship. Like, and not like, oh, wow, can you believe NC State's in the Final Four? Not like one of those things. It could be like you finished fourth or fifth in the Big 12, and then AJ DeBonsa just, you know, runs you through the tournament and you're like, well, I guess I, you know, that was Carmelo Anthony back in 2003. You can like this league. I, we can debate and we probably will on a Tuesday show, like leagues and teams within leagues and blah, blah, blah. But I don't know that any league has more like legitimate, can reasonably realistically win the national championship than the Big 12. And two of those teams were on display last night. One because it's 16. One even after last night with a 23 point win at Purdue. If you do those things, you can, you can win the whole thing. And the other one's got Bill Self and Darren Peterson. And if you got Bill Self and Darren Peterson, like, maybe you can win the whole thing. So just, I thought that was clearly the most interesting result from last night. And if you're Iowa State, yeah, you don't like that happening. But if you're tj, you just, I think, walk into the locker room today and emphasize exactly what you just said. Guys, we've played 17 games. We're 16 and one. And our only losses is a place that for like 20 years, nobody ever won anyway. We're fine and they are fine. But that was, that was a big result on Tuesday night.
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Gary Parish
Want to get to where I was and kind of bounce around a little bit, you know, a fairly populated Tuesday night. I don't know if it was as noisy as I was expecting, but I will tell you, GP second half was a lot more tense than I was anticipating after UConn got. Got up early. So let's, let's get a word from our partners, Josh. And then after that, we'll lead the bounce around the whip around with. With Yukon holding on against Seton Hall.
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Matt Norlander
All right, it's time for the Wednesday Ripper Whip Around. Norlander. Let's start in Newark, where you watched UConn Hang on and win at Seton Hall. But if people are wondering how my night went unlv, Boise State went to overtime.
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Gary Parish
I know. And nothing you, nothing. That guy right there, nothing that guy right there loves more than a Tuesday night Mountain west bonus session of some free ball.
- [17:18]
Matt Norlander
Man, I love Josh Pastor. I swear to God I do. But buddy, you got a foul up three. At the end of regulation, we had a whole crew. You know how much money you made? The crew last night? Working time and a half. You made a union crew like lots of money last night. So they were like, they're cool with it. They don't care. They're getting whatever they get. They're getting it. I know that at a certain point, the clock hits a certain point and buddy, they're like, they're like flashing. They're like, they're like a rapper with a cash money phone.
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Gary Parish
The money brick up against the air.
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Matt Norlander
Yes. So at some point you and LV Boise, you say going to overtime is incredibly helpful to the crew. So I'm for that. I love those people. But my check doesn't change. I'm just sitting there.
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Gary Parish
Your check is just fine, by the way.
- [18:10]
Matt Norlander
Buddy, we were in there till like 2 o' clock in the morning. I don't think I got back to my hotel till 2:30. I'm talking about true Story. Roy Hibbert is the nicest man on the planet. I don't know if people know that. Roy Hibbert is, is one of the best college basketball bigs we've had in my adult life. He is also one of the nicest and just best humans. I know. He's like, like, I wish he was my next door neighbor. Not that I have anything against my current next door neighbors. I like them too. But like, if you could put another house somewhere near me, I would. I wouldn't worry Roy Hibbert and his family to live there. They're awesome. I swear to you. I think Roy would, would, would confirm this. That ball went through the rim at the buzzer of regulation. I don't even think I've ever heard Roy yell in my whole life. And Roy goes F. It was outrageous. But UNLV prevailed in overtime, so congrats to them. Nice win. You know, my favorite pair of shorts that I own to this day are Boise State shorts. So I'm not rooting against them, but I am rooting against anything other than 40 minutes of regulation in the third game of a triple header. I went to bed at 5 o'.
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Gary Parish
Clock.
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Matt Norlander
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
- [19:23]
Gary Parish
Look at this guy. You really felt you fell asleep at.
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Matt Norlander
5Am I was somewhere between 4. The last thing I remember is 430 and I don't remember 5. So it's got to be somewhere between 4:35. Yeah, that's fine with me. That's. It seems reasonable. I think my eyes tell that story.
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Gary Parish
They're actually doing okay. I've seen way worse. Let's, let's take a tour through the night and yeah, we'll go to Newark. I was there. UConn was, it was a little bit back and forth in the first, you know, 10 or 12 minutes of the first half. And then Yukon goes on a big run. 18, 3 Close out the half. A buddy Andy Cats was there doing sideline. And I didn't obviously hear it because I'm in the arena, but he does the, he does the hit going into the break. And I'm going to paraphrase here because then Cats comes over, he's laughing, he's like, he's like, get a load of what Dan just said. And essentially, you know, Andy said, this team is, is built to come back. It's done it. What are you guys going to do? And Hurley essentially said, you know, if we play the way we did, they're not coming back. Well, they did come back. They Got it. They got it to one with less than a minute to go. This was, I was thinking back over it and, and I was talking to some folks before the game. I'm pretty sure this was the first time that I ever covered a Seton hall regular season game at the Rock. Some years there's just not even remotely good enough make it worth it. Sometimes if they have a game that's worth it, it just, it lands on a night where I'm just doing other stuff. I just had never done it. So this was the first time I had. I'd been there to see that they're ranked obviously a ranked on ranked game. A big game for Seton Hall. You win here. Big for the reputation. I actually thought would have been better for the Big east if Seton hall had won this game. So I was, I was happy to be in the building. I was happy we actually wound up getting a close game. They fill it up pretty well in the lower bowl there. Students are back at classes at the hall today, so the student section was filled. They live like, you know, 15, 20 minutes away from the, from the arena. And a really, a really good, a really fun scene. But UConn is able to hold on. And why does it hold on despite an ugly game? Overall, Silas Demery Jr. I think is the biggest reason. Now you look at the box score and he had eight points, but he went four from four from the foul line. In the final minute. He was 6 of 6 from freebies. UConn overall, 16 of 26 from 3 point range. UConn 3 of 17. Seton hall was even worse, 1 of 16. So a brutal showing from beyond the arc. Seton hall made its one and only three pointer to cut the lead 2:1 in the final minute. When Mike Williams III hit that tray, he actually tried another three. Braylon Mullins, Johnny on the spot, gets a ball on it, deflects it, then it becomes a scramble. Demery ends up with the ball. He hits two more foul shots. That gives the game its final margin. 69, 64. Terrace Reed had a really nice night. 21 points, nine rebounds, six. Seton hall is now 14 and three. It had won four in a row. And that building against UConn. Yes, even the, the championship winning Yukon teams had taken. Ls there. I talked to Hurley about that afterward and he said I, you know, this wasn't something I was thinking about in the summer or in the preseason or even last month. But then you get, you know, two, three days out. You got your media availability. The press is telling you about this has happened. He goes, then the chip gets implanted in the brain. And it was, I thought it was the latest, you know, the lead of my column overnight was a lot of this, this season about UConn is exercising the demons from a year ago when, you know, UConn wasn't bad. As a reminder, it was not a bad team a year ago. It was just a, a team that had expectations proudly of winning three in a row, NCAA titles. Couldn't get it done. Had a very noisy off season that continued even into the regular season. And now they're, you know, they've atoned for the non conference portion and now they've ended the, the losing streak against Seton Hall. They're exercising the demons unquestionably so. And it was, I'm not going to say it was impressive. It was just the latest example of how Yukon is winning in a variety of ways. I wasn't on the show last week to even talk about the Yukon Providence win a week ago in overtime, which was wild and included Dan Hurley getting a technical foul outside of his locker room in the back bowels of that arena. So we've had some bumpiness to start 2026, but 17 one and the most surprising stat you may hear today, or you heard it last night, Yukon 7 and O in league play. That program has not started 70 in conference since 1998. 99. Yes, it's true. And that was obviously the year they won their first national championship. Now we see them pacing toward being a very firm contender to go for number seven.
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Matt Norlander
Well, it's about time they got, they got back to their winning ways.
- [24:19]
Gary Parish
They are back to their winning ways.
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Matt Norlander
It's about time they did something. It's about time that program accomplished something. Okay, I, the Braylon Mullins block. Like, yeah, I don't mean this literally, but you'll get the point. Like, that's the type of thing that moves him up six spots in a mock draft because everybody knows the things that he can do. I don't think many people know he can move like that, recover like that, get to that place. And that's the type of thing that makes you come out of your chair a little bit and like, okay, okay, like, that's different. He can do that. That's how you go from being wherever you, somebody thought you were going to be picked on Tuesday morning to wherever somebody might you be picked somebody thinks you might be picked on, on Wednesday morning. That, that, that was more impressive or at least more interesting than any of the shots he might make. But that you can teams. Awesome. What I said last night on Inside College Basketball is coming into last season, most of us, wrong as we were, thought that UConn had a, had like a realistic chance to go back to back to back. And, and we learned very early in Maui that that team could be good. And it was good, it was a good team, but it wasn't going to do that. This team can do that. This team can win a national championship. It was Pretty clear by December 1st UConn was not going to go back to back to back. They weren't going to three peat. But can UConn win three national championships in a four year span? The four year span we're in right now? Yeah, they can do that. And you, I, you saw it in person last night. You, I don't think you disagree with me, do you?
- [25:58]
Gary Parish
I don't know. They can definitely win three and four. I've believed that essentially since it's been there. I mean, the win at Kansas in the moment there. I saw the Florida win in person. The Florida one's really what did it for me at that point. They got to nine and one. Now they're 17 and one. The only loss is by four at home with no Mullens and no Reed on the floor in that game against a very good Arizona team. That takes nothing away from Arizona. It's just the only loss that UConn has to this point in the post game press conference. I've been guilty of this. I'm sure you have as well. Adam Zagoria does a really good job covering, you know, NYC area.
- [26:35]
Matt Norlander
Allman Brothers.
- [26:36]
Gary Parish
Allman Brothers. He's excited for Goose at the Garden in June. Talks in Bob Weir. But he was winding up a question and sometimes you wind up a question and then the way it lands, you're kind of like, ah, it's not exactly the way I wanted to get it out. So he, he essentially asked Dan if he wished he had won the Arizona game and then had a Dan. Dan was like waiting for the question to finish and he chuckles like, yes, X. I wish we won that.
- [27:01]
Matt Norlander
So it's like this makes me laugh so hard because Brett Stover and I have this running joke early, early in the season. I can't remember what team it was, but I swear to God we were on, we were on set. And this team that was supposed to be good, whatever it is, we'll figure it out later. But this team was, that was supposed to be good, had not been so good. You know, they'd lost some games they weren't supposed to lose. And Stove looks at me, and it was a total re. Tease. So we're just, like, trying to get to a break. You know how TV works? And it was just, like, producers in his ear. Like, Jim Hildebrandt's probably in his ear being like, hey, Richie, GP on something. And we. Because we need 45 more seconds. And he's like, GP and he's just. Now he's just off the. He's just off. He's just talking. And he goes, it was this one team. And he goes, so, GP If. If this team. Whatever team it was, if this team, like, if they would have won this game and that game, like, would the narrative be different, connected to them? And I was like, yes, Dove. If they were undefeated, people would think they're better than they are with three losses. Same type of thing. Like.
- [28:03]
Gary Parish
Like, do you.
- [28:05]
Matt Norlander
Hey, people are calling this team disappointing, but if they'd have won this game, in this game, what. What would be the. What would be the conversation then? Will they be undefeated and people be calling them awesome?
- [28:15]
Gary Parish
That's how this works.
- [28:16]
Matt Norlander
That's how it works.
- [28:17]
Gary Parish
That's correct.
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Matt Norlander
He's got his hair commercial going. Like, we can't even sit in the studio. You can't watch Sunday Night Football there. Here comes Stove with a hair commercial. He's a star.
- [28:28]
Gary Parish
Yeah, good on him, by the way. Good on him. No questions. We love you, Stove. But that being the only loss for UConn, yes, they can go three out of four and only other tag from this, and then we can keep it. Keep it moving. Hurley did tell me. I got him in the locker room afterward saying this. We are one. Our guys played loose, and this was important. This is a quad one opportunity. He's not going to. He's just not going to be diplomatic about this, and nor should he be. He said, we're just not going to have that many opportunities in league play to get Quad one wins. He is correct about that. Now, he did talk up St. John's and Villanova, and both of those teams got wins on Tuesday, which benefits the general objective for the Big east to target four teams in the tournament. That I think that needs to be the goal. They'll get at least 3. I'm almost positive of it. 5 would be a long shot. 4. I think it's still possible. But this was. This was it. Because, you know, Next up for UConn is at Georgetown. Not a quad one game. Home to Nova. That is. I don't think a quad one game. At this point. That's next Saturday, but a really good opportunity. But home to Providence, not a quad. One game at Creighton. Will be home to Xavier, won't be at St. John's will be at Butler, probably won't be home to Georgetown, won't be home to Creighton, will not be at Nova, will be home to St. John's will see home to Seton hall, likely won't be. And then at Marquette, will not be. So right now, UConn is 5, 0 on the road. That's the best road record of any high major team. In fact, the only other team that has a better road record period is Miami Ohio, which got to 18 and oh on Tuesday night. Best record in the sport. It's eight. No in road games. Maybe GP will get him into the top 25 and one by the end of the month. I don't know what to tell you, Wally. You gotta, you gotta be, you gotta be much harder on GP at this point. Get my 18, 0. Get him in the top 25 and 1. It's the only team right now that's a better road record than Yukon. And Yukon right now is tied for second in Q1 victories with like six or seven other teams. It has five.
- [30:30]
Matt Norlander
It's on my radar and you know I can succumb to peer pressure. So we'll, we'll see how it goes. Let's move on. Number eight. Nebraska 90, Oregon 55. Two different Cornhuskers made seven three pointers in the game. Nebraska is now 17 and oh. 21 game winning streak dating back to last season. That last night was the most lopsided victory for Nebraska over a Big Ten school since they joined the Big Ten in 2011. The Fred Hoiberg Coinhurst story continues to get. Get more and more interesting.
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Gary Parish
Yeah, I mean if, if it had won just to keep the story going, that's plenty interesting. 17, 0 and Oregon's down but 90 to 55 doing it the way that it did it. And Nebraska is not a team that, that, that kills you by the three. It's not a, it's not a super reliable three point shooting team.
- [31:23]
Matt Norlander
It's.
- [31:24]
Gary Parish
Takes a lot, but it's not. Let me see where they're at. Nebraska as of this morning is 108th and three point accuracy. So by no means terrible, but just not, not a top level or even a second level three point shooting team. And they get it done here to get to 17 and oh. Next up is Northwestern on Saturday. Northwestern's 8, 8 not that good, but that Team has had a proclivity of knocking off some, some really good opponents in that building in recent years. We'll see what happens there. Oregon, I had this last week in the court report. I had them at that point they were 8 and 7. Now they're 8 and 9. I had them as one of the most disappointing teams in the country. I had Oregon basically top 25 level in the preseason and this is just falling off. I saw that team do nothing against in the players era, go oh and three there and now it's lost at Rutgers, home to Ohio State, at Nebraska. Guess what? Next up, they're home. But Michigan comes to town. Michigan State comes to town and then you got the rivalry game against Washington waiting after that. So it's going the wrong way for Dana Altman. I had someone ask me in the past 48 hours if I thought Dana Altman was on his, was in his last season essentially and would this be it? I don't know. But a season that goes this poorly can certainly, can certainly swing it one way. But we'll see if it's, it'll probably be his decision given how much time he spent there. But he does not have, he does not have these kind of seasons. In fact, Dana Altman sneakily has never had ever a sub.500 season in his career. And now that is suddenly on the table.
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Matt Norlander
Dana's been awesome, like incredible career.
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- [33:09]
Matt Norlander
It just like last night made reminded me of like I sat down with him at Big Ten media day and I, I think it was shortly after Jackson Shelstead had suffered some sort of preseason injury that was clearly going to make him unavailable for the beginning of the season, but might have him back by players error or something like that. And this quote stood out to me. I said so what's that going to be like, you know, Jackson's out, you know, whatever. And Dana said Jackson will be fine. I don't, I, I don't know that we will be or the injury won't hamper him like when, like yeah, this stinks, but he'll be okay. I don't know that we'll be okay without him. It just sort of stood out. Like I could sense some like without that guy, we, it's going to be hard. And I say that to say he didn't play again last night. He missed his four straight game. So he was out of the lineup early and he's been out of the lineup lately. And that's how Oregon through 17 games has its worst start in 15 years at 8 9. Oregon like they played 17 games. Literally no player has on Oregon's roster has played 17 games. So the team has played 17, but nobody's appeared in all of them. The leading score has missed three, the second leading score has missed five. It's a situation where if healthy, they could be good. I think I had them in the top 25 and one preseason at some point, perhaps all the way to opening day. If healthy, this is a good basketball team. But they have quite literally this season never been healthy. And that's not the type of season you want to have at this point in your career.
- [34:59]
Gary Parish
Elsewhere in the Big Ten, Michigan State won 81 to 60 and I'm pretty sure this game was 53 up. And then Michigan State proceeds to to blast Indiana out of Breslin. Jeremy Fierce, 23:10, another really impressive performance by the Spartans. Just stacking, stacking, stacking wins and the kind of game for fears where he has been in my, in my estimation in a great year for point guards. He is just consistently been in that top three all season long. And if he was ever flirting and falling down to four or five spot, you know, a surge right back up there after what he did on Tuesday night. Really impressive. The Hoosiers, I think, you know, we weren't expecting him to win in this spot. But as a result of this loss, Michigan State now 15 and 2, Indiana has lost back to back games. Home to Nebraska, at Michigan State, next home to Iowa, then at Michigan, at Rutgers, home to Purdue. This is a stretch where we find out if the Hoosiers will be a tournament team in year one under Darren DeVries. I remember in the preseason this was the team, the team that I was most right there on the fence. Which way is the wind going to blow? Are they going to be in the tournament or not? In the tournament. And I think in the preseason I said, okay, I'm going to say they're narrow, they're going to get in. They'll be, they'll go to Dayton. As of right now, I actually don't think that'll be the case. I think they're going to miss the tournament. But they can prove me wrong. If they can peel off Iowa, Michigan, Rutgers, Purdue actually, then let's even include two more gp, Iowa, Michigan, Rutgers, Purdue, at ucla, at USD, those are the next six. The winds will change if they can go four and two in that stretch. But I don't have confidence that'll actually wind up being what happens.
- [36:36]
Matt Norlander
Cohen Carr delivered another highlight. Real dunk. He's the guy, right? He's that guy this in. Is he that guy in basketball now? Is he the dunker in basketball now?
- [36:45]
Gary Parish
Good question.
- [36:45]
Matt Norlander
At any level. At any level, right?
- [36:47]
Gary Parish
He very well may, may be. And I haven't thought about it. I actually would love to just do a thought experiment on this. He seems to be moving into like one of the 10 best in game dunkers in college I've ever seen. Like, it is, it is violent, it is joyous, it is charismatic, it is athletic. I just, Michigan State plays. I want to see that guy on the break with everyone chasing behind him at least once a game. And he doesn't even need to be doing it on the break because he can do it in traffic. But he did it again. And one of, you know, five or six facets to that team that make Michigan State a viable national title contender.
- [37:28]
Matt Norlander
Oh, he can do it anyway. Like bounce it to him in transition, throw it up, let him go get it. I mean, the vertical is outrageous. And he delivers over and over again. He's fun to watch. And Michigan State is like, they're doing it. Like, I don't know how good Indiana is. I. There was a point in the season where I thought that's the NCAA tournament team. And now I understand where you're coming from. Perhaps not, but Michigan State like handled them like very little issues. And perhaps this says something about Indiana, but it says also something about, you know, Tom has been pretty clear that he does not know whether the way he's running his program now is the way you need to run it, should run it in 2026, but it's the way he wants to run it and he's going to keep doing it and if it stops working, he'll just walk out like everybody else his age does. But it's working right now. That Michigan State team is good and that was an impressive performance on Tuesday night. Let's move on. Number 16, Virginia 79. Number 20, Louisville 70. Michael Brown missed his seventh straight game with what has been described as a back injury. Louisville's 3 and 4 in that stretch. Let's stop right there for a second.
- [38:44]
Gary Parish
Yep.
- [38:44]
Matt Norlander
We have mostly focused on Darren Peterson missing games as a five star freshman. But now the that conversation has turned to Mikel Brown. What do you make of what's going on there?
- [38:55]
Gary Parish
Well, you know, back injuries can be so debilitating regardless of your age, but you and I, you and I are well past the age of 40 at this point and so we really know what that feels like. Even though, you know, you know, you.
- [39:08]
Matt Norlander
Know Like, I don't mean to interrupt you, except I did it very intentionally. Like, I had a moment in the past 24 hours, and I've never had this thought, like, you have no idea what kind of thoughts run through my head all day long.
- [39:19]
Gary Parish
I don't need to know.
- [39:20]
Matt Norlander
You don't need to know. But this one ran through my head yesterday. For the first time ever, I was like, I think I'm. I think I'm gonna need hip replacement surgery. Why do you even think that? I don't even know how that pops into your head, but my hip's just hurting. And it's not like, hurting like I. Like I bumped it or like I did something. It's hurting like it. Like it's deteriorating. That's what I feel. I feel like hip is deteriorating. And that's a wild thing to have to. Have to realize. Walking down 8th Avenue, like, I just, like. Was just walking on 8th Avenue, just like, you know, thinking a little bit, trying to collect my thoughts. And I was like, I might need off season hip surgery anyway. Getting old. I guess getting old is better than not getting old by definition. But, buddy, you ain't live till it's just randomly popped in your head that you think you might need to explore surgery.
- [40:21]
Gary Parish
See if we can push that off a season or two more. You know, let's. Let's get a second and third opinion before we.
- [40:26]
Matt Norlander
I'm right. Right now, it's only based on my opinion. But.
- [40:32]
Gary Parish
You are, Doc.
- [40:33]
Matt Norlander
Right now, it's based on nothing more than my opinion. But I. I feel something. I feel so. I like, you know, Darren Peterson sometimes feels something.
- [40:40]
Gary Parish
I know. We've. Yeah, we've. We've.
- [40:42]
Matt Norlander
It's.
- [40:42]
Gary Parish
It's like GP living the same life.
- [40:44]
Matt Norlander
We're basically living the same life. That's been clear for a while now. Look at us.
- [40:50]
Gary Parish
Yeah.
- [40:50]
Matt Norlander
DP and GP are basically living the same life. He's just got better hair.
- [40:56]
Gary Parish
And that's the only difference.
- [40:57]
Matt Norlander
The difference between me and Darren Peterson is he's got obviously, undeniably better hair.
- [41:03]
Gary Parish
Three and four for Louisville without Brown on the floor. Is that what you said?
- [41:06]
Matt Norlander
That's true. Three and four in the past seven without him.
- [41:09]
Gary Parish
Yep. Not an NCAA tournament team if he's not in the lineup. That's what we know right now. We'll see if Louisville can change that. We'll see when he can back. The back injury is something to not mess around with. Louisville's at pit. Not good. Home to Virginia Tech. Should be winnable at duke on Monday, January 26, and then home to SMU, which is a quality team. When are we getting Mikel Brown Jr. Back? You know, are we. Is it going to be this weekend or is this going to be lingering a week from now and even more? But Louisville is now 12 and 5. Can't get it done at home. And yeah, that is a, that is an affecting loss in a significant way. This team is not a top 25 team right now. And meanwhile, on the other side, okay, Virginia wins.
- [41:50]
Richard Deitsch
Yeah.
- [41:51]
Gary Parish
Okay, 15 and two. We did our coach of the year draft on the Tuesday show. The coach that I kept off only because I was like, you know what? Maybe they'll lose Tuesday night. The coach I kept off was Odom. 15 and 2. Virginia has a top 20 offense, a top 20 defense, really good rebounding team, good size, shoots it from three, shoots a ton from three. And they haven't, they haven't faced, I guess the meat of the schedule yet, but they're kind of entering it to now at Louisville. @ SMU is next this weekend, home to North Carolina. They don't have Duke on the road until the end, near the end of the season. But this is right away. We're flipping the script. We're getting back to where we should be. Virginia is a quality team and is now as virtue of this one, even with no Brown on the floor, has now entered into the conversation legitimately. You get the win on the road at Louisville, you're there form one in the league, ACC contender. So Duke, Carolina, Virginia, you gotta knock Louisville out of that conversation. You could put Miami in there for now. That's both. Miami's one on Tuesday night. The Hurricanes won at Notre Dame. Miami is also 152 under Jay Lucas in his first season, 40 in the league. Clemson is also there. We might have something relatively intriguing brewing in the ACC overall, but Virginia, yeah, really impressive and a team to be reckoned with. They will unquestionably wearing, be wearing home whites on that first Thursday or Friday, the NCAA.
- [43:19]
Matt Norlander
Tournament. So let me, let me, let me make sure I'm hearing you right. Are you, are you saying that you stopped yourself from saying something that you might have believed on Tuesday's CBS Sports Network show? Yes, because it was like, man, that'll sound crazy if they lose on Tuesday.
- [43:34]
Gary Parish
Night. Correct. That's right. I assessed the situation. I said, give me one more night. If we were doing the segment here today, Odom would be on the list. We're not doing the segment here today. All right, let me know if you need.
- [43:48]
Matt Norlander
Me. I'M gonna try to text that to.
- [43:50]
Gary Parish
Me. All.
- [43:50]
Matt Norlander
Right. Text that to me. I'm gonna learn from that. I'm gonna learn from that. It's never a loss. It's only a lesson. I'm gonna learn from that. So if I would have taken, like, your same approach to Tuesday's CBS Sports Network show, I would have been, like, privately, like, to myself in my own head, I would have thought things like, Iowa State could really be the last undefeated team, but they're also playing in a building tonight where nobody ever wins, regardless of how much Kansas is struggling. People don't win.
- [44:19]
Gary Parish
There.
- [44:20]
Matt Norlander
Yep. Text me that. Remind me for, like, just don't text me now because I'll forget it by next Tuesday. But, like, text me and don't text me Monday night because I'll probably be caught up. I'm being the national championship game. I'll be watching national championship game. Text me Monday afternoon. And then a reminder on Tuesday.
- [44:38]
Gary Parish
Morning, you text me to remind me to text.
- [44:40]
Matt Norlander
You. I'm going to text you. I'm going to text you Sunday.
- [44:43]
Gary Parish
Night. And then you text me Sunday night, the Bears game is on. Do not text.
- [44:47]
Matt Norlander
Me. Okay. I'm going to text you Sunday morning after I get out of my scripture. I'm going to get in my scripture on Sunday morning, then I'm going to text you to remind you to text me on Monday. Then I'm going to get into my national championship game. Yeah, but if you text me early enough on Tuesday to remind me about what we've already texted about multiple times, I think I'll have.
- [45:06]
Gary Parish
It. Any thoughts on.
- [45:09]
Matt Norlander
Virginia? I do have thoughts on Virginia. As I said on Inside College Basketball, if I'm an athletic director, I never want to have to replace Tony Bennett. I just want Tony Bennett to coach my team, run my program.
- [45:19]
Gary Parish
Forever.
- [45:20]
Matt Norlander
Right. But on the off chance suddenly I'm put in that situation, you just want to get it right and they got it right. Now, I think any of us could have got it right. You know, this ain't one of those deals where who do you think is going to be preseason number one? You know, could it be a Florida or Purdue or Houston or even St. John's you know, there was a variety of opinions out there about that. But when it came to the Virginia job is open. Who should they hire? Nobody suggested they should hire St. John's it was always exactly what they did. And so you don't ever want to have to replace Tony Bennett, but if you have to, you want to. You hope you get it right and it looks like they got it right. He was the obvious and perfect guy for that job. And through 17 games in year one is only 17 games through year one. Ask Mark Pope how quickly things can turn on you. But he looks like he's the perfect guy for the.
- [46:21]
Gary Parish
Job. He very much does. Virginia being good in the ACC just feels like a little bit of normalcy in this world and we could all use a bit more of that. Can we, can we take a turn down south into I guess, the wildest game? Although I, I was watching this as I'm watching Yukon and Seton hall play, you know, right in front of me and the reviews, it was, you know, fits and starts. Tennessee wins in double OT 8782 over Texas A M. If the Vols had lost, which they did not, but if they had, I have a feeling we would have had. We would have had the, this game much higher up in the show here because that would have been a real issue for Tennessee. They get the win. Nate Amen finally just takes care of business in double OT. He finishes with 23. He had what, like 8, 9, 10 points in the 10 in the overtimes, both overtimes. Gets it done. A couple of blocks. A M is playing some, some games close here. They want it at Auburn on the road last week with, with other reviews. Something about Bucky McMillan. His teams are inducing just these long, long, long reviews, but it's 87.82 Tennessee wins. The Aggies are better in year one than I expected them to be. I don't know if it's going to wind up being an NAA tournament team. Generally speaking, they're pacing toward that. But Tennessee avoiding the loss here, I actually thought was. Was significant. I don't think Tennessee is going to win the sec. I don't think it's going to finish in second and don't think it'll finish in third. But I still think, you know, the way that it can play and just the general prep to go against them and the physicality there, it can be a real headache. Like you don't look forward to playing that team. And I think some of the way they play is also built off of the momentum that comes with victories. And I, I think that would have been a, a big negative in their column if they had lost that game. But they didn't. They get it done. Win by 5 and double.
- [48:20]
Matt Norlander
OT. The Vols out rebounded A&M 60, 35. I'm not a big fan of like raw rebound numbers. I think it can be misleading Sometimes, but that does, like 60, 35 does tell a story. And it's, it's among the reasons Tennessee was able to turn the ball over six more times than A and M, but still finish with one. One more field goal attempt. So I don't think you ever want to be in double overtime if you're Tennessee with a number next to your name against this Texas A and M team, but you get out of it with a victory. 87, 82. Before we get out of here, we'll look.
- [48:54]
Gary Parish
Ahead. Hold on, hold on. I got a couple. I got a couple more. I didn't believe you didn't put in the rundown. I don't know why you didn't put in the.
- [49:01]
Matt Norlander
Rundown. Okay, okay.
- [49:02]
Gary Parish
Okay. Florida beats Oklahoma on the road. Just notable that they stomped him. That's.
- [49:07]
Matt Norlander
All. Florida won another game. It was supposed to win. Got it.
- [49:09]
Gary Parish
Correct. But. But one definitively on the road in league.
- [49:11]
Matt Norlander
Play. Just one of these things. Oh, Florida. Florida. I did make this point last night on Inside College Basketball. If, if you would have looked for. If you would have been like, hey, who's disappointing in college basketball? Did that Google search three weeks ago. They pop up and now it would be silly for them to pop.
- [49:27]
Gary Parish
Up. Correct. Baylor at least avoided a four game losing streak. One at Oklahoma.
- [49:31]
Matt Norlander
State. We had that on our air. You kidding.
- [49:33]
Gary Parish
Me? I was in studio, dialed into it. Important for Baylor just to get off the schneide there. And then the most thrilling ending of the night. It went down in Minneapolis. And I love these kind of endings because there's no timeout called. Josh has it. This is the Badgers radio network on the call back. Well, with the view from the floor, let's see how Bucky got it done in.
- [49:58]
Matt Norlander
Minneapolis. Awesome. And leads it for Tyson for three in the tie. It's good. We're tied. 4.6 seconds to play in that past. Blackwell with three, with two, with one. Blackwell for the win. Blackwell for three. John Blackwell for the.
- [50:19]
Gary Parish
Win. That's good stuff. And if you're watching there on YouTube, that's the radio call. But also, yes, we've, we've the technology, the content has moved to where, okay, K. Tyson hits the three to tie it. No timeout from guard. Blackwell goes down, sinks the winner from NBA range. And then whomever it is with Wisconsin athletics, you know, they've got the camera, they're running on the floor with the team. You kind of see, you kind of see a play out. It was a really, really cool vantage point. A, A good Win for Wisconsin. Minnesota, I know Nico knows, should have had that game. Wisconsin has now defeated UCLA at Michigan, at Minnesota and successive games. Rutgers comes to Madison this weekend. It's going to be four in a row and. And a big turning point for that program. Losing on the road at Minnesota would. Would not have been damning for Wisconsin. It would have been in some ways understandable. But the fact that they managed to get out of there with the. With the victory, I thought was one of the. Was probably the most important win of the night. That wasn't the obvious ones, because now I think Wisconsin, you do this, you got enough belief you're going to Big Ten is going to be a Bear, but you're going to win enough to get into the.
- [51:32]
Matt Norlander
Tournament. We were watching this live. Needless to say, I don't care who wins. I know you do because you have a personal rivalry with Nico Medved, but I didn't care who wins. So I'm just watching the game as a neutral.
- [51:42]
Gary Parish
Observer. All.
- [51:43]
Matt Norlander
Right. As a neutral observer in makeup, I was just watching this game and Kate Tyson hit the shot, and I was happy for him because he's an example of, like, I. If you hate the transfer portal and you hate transfer waivers, let me tell you the Kay Tyson story. He's a young man who grew up in North Carolina and, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- [52:06]
Gary Parish
Blah. And the show last.
- [52:08]
Matt Norlander
Week. Yeah, right. Mid major player, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, went to Belmont, was awesome, and now gets the opportunity to come back to North Carolina. And I remember saying it perhaps in the same tone, how cool is it? You grow up in North Carolina, you probably dream of being a Tar Heel, and then, you know, you play high school basketball and you're good. Like, you know, you're good enough to play at Belmont, but Hubert Davis ain't calling you out of high school because, you know, why would he? But you do enough things at Belmont in this era of college athletics, you can go back home and play for the.
- [52:41]
Gary Parish
Universe. You did this bit last week on the.
- [52:44]
Matt Norlander
Show. I know, but I'm gonna do it better.
- [52:45]
Gary Parish
Now. Sometimes the guy loses track of what he said where, so I just had to remind.
- [52:49]
Matt Norlander
Him. No, I know. I'm just trying to do it better. I'm trying to perfect this. Okay. I'm gonna go on a CO Brown podcast soon. I'm trying to perfect this. Okay, Give me a minute. I'm trying to get this right. And you go back home to North Carolina and you can be mad at the transfer portal if you want to, but how incredible of a story is that? And I think that's pretty much where we left it. He barely played at North Carolina. Couldn't get on the court. It was awful. He couldn't play. All right, so now he's at Minnesota, and he's actually playing. He's great. He's wonderful. Again, I don't know what. I don't why I couldn't play at North Carolina, but he couldn't. But now he's playing, and he's playing well, and he hit that shot, and I was like, man, what a nice story. Seal Brown's going to really enjoy this if I ever get to tell it to him. And then Blackwell just buried the whole thing. And it was. That was an awesome ending. You're right. And also, you're right. I probably should have put that in the rundown, but by the time.
- [53:43]
Gary Parish
I got to this 4:37am I.
- [53:45]
Matt Norlander
Got. Yes, yes.
- [53:46]
Gary Parish
Yes. I'm very aware. I tried to steal five hours of sleep. I wake up. I woke up. What's Jeep you got in the dock? All looks good. Wait, he doesn't have the awesome buzzer beater. Okay, I'll send the video to Josh. Got it done. It's in the show. You want to take a break and do a quick look ahead before we get out of.
- [54:02]
Matt Norlander
Here? There's nothing I would want to do more right now than take a break and get out of here, so let's do that. Give me a word from our.
- [54:08]
Richard Deitsch
Partners. Hey, this is Richard Deitch, the host of the sports media.
- [54:10]
Matt Norlander
Podcast. If you're interested in what's happening.
- [54:12]
Richard Deitsch
With all the places where you consume sports, the sports media podcast has you.
- [54:16]
Matt Norlander
Covered. I've been turning down interview news all week. Kodakopi reached out. Oprah, George Stephanopoulos. So I said no. I was booked on the Deitch podcast before the Taylor Swift phenomenon. I must live up to my.
- [54:32]
Richard Deitsch
Responsibility. Listen, wherever you get your.
- [54:34]
Matt Norlander
Podcasts, I apologize for all these sirens. If you can hear these sirens in New York.
- [54:41]
Gary Parish
City. Did you hear my dog.
- [54:42]
Matt Norlander
Earlier? I did not hear your dog.
- [54:44]
Gary Parish
Earlier. Yeah, my buddy was dropping off a printer. I've had this. I've had a printer. Hasn't worked for three years. And then when we got it was, you know, just a whole other thing. So he texted me, hey, can I drop this printer off? I said, I'm podcasting. Dog might bark. Just be discreet about it. And about nine minutes after that, I don't know if anyone could hear it. I could hear it through my. Through my cans. Here. So I didn't hear the sirens. You didn't hear the.
- [55:05]
Matt Norlander
Dog. It sounds like they're going to get maduro. It sounds like they're going to get Maduro. You know, he's over there in Brooklyn. It sounds like they're going to get Maduro. Hey, Interesting that you're getting a new printer. Tell me if this is true or not. This. This is a strong belief that I have. Nobody lives in a home with a printer that works.
- [55:24]
Gary Parish
Perfectly. I'm completely of that belief. This printer should.
- [55:28]
Matt Norlander
Work. They don't work if you have a printer in your home. They will not work. I don't know why. I have. I think right now I have four printers in my home for plus one in a box, brand new. It's just sitting.
- [55:39]
Gary Parish
There. And the printer industry is a complete racket. Everyone. Everyone knows.
- [55:44]
Matt Norlander
This. How can I buy. I buy an oven and that MF will work for 20 years. I buy a printer and it will never work. I'm talking about it.
- [55:52]
Gary Parish
Never. Three book reports and then you're.
- [55:54]
Matt Norlander
Done. How does nobody print? How does nobody's printer work? I'm talking about. My kids all the time are like, we got to print something. I'm like, go to FedEx. I don't know what to tell you. Like, I. There. There's no.
- [56:06]
Gary Parish
Way. I'm not even kidding. I've literally. We've. We don't need to print a ton of stuff now. Kids are getting older. That's going to change soon. I've had to go to HQ to do studio work and be like, I'll just print it.
- [56:16]
Matt Norlander
There. Yes, it works there. I know.
- [56:18]
Gary Parish
That. It always works.
- [56:19]
Matt Norlander
There. They. They print out everything 50 times. If you ever want to know why Kawhi Leonard's Tree company got invented, it's because of television networks printing out shot sheets.
- [56:30]
Gary Parish
Unquestionably. And arenas under 16, under 12, the whole thing. No.
- [56:34]
Matt Norlander
Doubt. I don't. Arenas and network television networks get their printers to work, but it is impossible to get a printer to work in a private residence. No.
- [56:43]
Gary Parish
Chance. Not. Not in this country. Unfortunately. We used to be a proper country. Printer situation. Disaster. So apparently I now have enough. I have another printer in my house. I got to deal with that. Hopefully I can get that to work.
- [56:55]
Matt Norlander
Now. You have no chance. You will never print anything from that.
- [56:57]
Gary Parish
Printer. No.
- [56:58]
Matt Norlander
Chance. That thing would just sit in your house forever. It would print.
- [57:01]
Gary Parish
Nothing. You know, what's happened here is my.
- [57:04]
Matt Norlander
Buddy.
- [57:05]
Gary Parish
He's. He's giving me the printer. This thing doesn't work. He's.
- [57:08]
Matt Norlander
Awful. You think you got a buddy because he gave you a printer buddy. I'll give you five printers. I'll give you five. Do you want five printers? I will give you five printers. I have five printers in my home. None of them.
- [57:24]
Gary Parish
Work. Yeah, yeah. I'm the fool. I did it to myself. What do we have on tap.
- [57:30]
Matt Norlander
Tonight, GP oh, man, I'm gonna be in studio all night if I can stay awake with Adam Zucker, Roy Hibbert and Ice.
- [57:36]
Gary Parish
Young. There we go. That's a.
- [57:38]
Matt Norlander
Crew. That is a crew. We got a triple header at CBS Sports Network. VCU at Rhode Island, San Diego State at Wyoming. Nevada at number 23, Utah State. I saw the Utah State fans. I don't have a number next to Utah State's name. And now I'm going to be in studio for a Utah State game. They're already giving it to me on. On Twitter. I gotta. I gotta figure something out. I got some big choices to make today elsewhere the sport tonight. Iowa at number five, Purdue. Ooh, that's gonna be tough. Number 10, Vanderbilt at.
- [58:13]
Gary Parish
Texas. It's gonna be brutal for.
- [58:15]
Matt Norlander
Paris. I already know Braid Smith is going for 54 points and 17 assists. I know it's.
- [58:23]
Gary Parish
Happening. Oh, man, that's just. I'll be down. By the way, stay dialed in for that one as well. We got some news on Indycats coming later.
- [58:30]
Matt Norlander
Today. So number 10, Vanderbilt at Texas. Number 14, North Carolina at Stanford. Number 4, Michigan trying to bounce back at Washington. What interests you most from there other than the. The first and the first and biggest. Braden Smith, Bennett's first matchup that we've ever.
- [58:50]
Gary Parish
Seen. The potential there is immense. Purdue is hosting the game and Iowa coming to town. You know, this was expected, you know, three weeks ago to be a top 25 game. Not the case now. But if you love this podcast, you need to be watching that game just to see what. What Braden Smith does and what Bennett, sir, says Bennister's could very well have.
- [59:12]
Matt Norlander
Himself. He's going no, he's going. One of 32 pennant starts is going 132. One of 32 was.
- [59:19]
Gary Parish
Six. He will shoot better than 15 from the field in this game. Very confident of.
- [59:23]
Matt Norlander
That. Did you calculate one of 32 to 15 that.
- [59:26]
Gary Parish
Quickly? No, I'm saying. No, of course not. But I'm saying he will not be remotely close to one of 32. And he won't. He'll be. He'll be plenty better than that. He'll be at least 16 from the.
- [59:36]
Matt Norlander
Field. Yeah, I Feel like that's the type of thing I said last Tuesday and it's been all downhill since.
- [59:41]
Gary Parish
Then. Vandy at Texas. I said on Tuesday's show. I think Vandy at. You know, we saw Iowa State's undefeated run come to an end on Tuesday night. I, I, I could be pulling a GP right now, but I think Vandy's gonna lose at Texas Wednesday night. Big game for Texas. Build out a tournament resume, see if you can get it done there. You mentioned Carolina at Stanford. Duke is also at Cal. Duke at Cal, 11pm Eastern tip on ACC.
- [60:09]
Matt Norlander
Network. I don't even understand what's, I don't even understand this world anymore. I don't even understand the world I like. I don't know if you watch the news, but I don't even understand what world we're living in now. And Duke and cow is probably the best.
- [60:22]
Gary Parish
Example. Duke it.
- [60:24]
Matt Norlander
Cow. It's just Duke at Cal is probably the best example on this planet right now of how much our country has.
- [60:30]
Gary Parish
Changed. Yes. Unc, that is the best.
- [60:33]
Matt Norlander
Example.
- [60:33]
Gary Parish
Yes. For your commentary on current events, world affairs, this is the show for you. And then Michigan at Washington, Pacific Northwest road swing. We see if, if the Wolverines get right, if they get, if they get picked off there, that is the 10:30. It's gonna be a late night for you. Late night for me. I'll be dialed in. I'll be staying up for all this stuff. A lot of, I mean, Duke on the road, Michigan on the road late. Carolina on the road late. Ish. Vanderbilt, Texas, a lot of these nine Eastern Kentucky's at lsu. Quaintance isn't playing. Jalen Lowe's out for the season. Have we even mentioned that on the show? He's, he's.
- [61:07]
Matt Norlander
Done. Yeah, he's done. They shut it.
- [61:08]
Gary Parish
Down. So you've got Auburn at Missouri. So I actually think tonight's gonna be buzzier than even Tuesday. There's a lot there. And then I do I, you know, need to take a hard left here. But we do need to mention this. We had some tragic news in college basketball on Tuesday. Bill Courtney, an assistant for Temple. Temple plays tonight at Memphis. Bill Courtney was previously the head coach at Cornell. He was one of the assistants on the George Mason team. George Mason in the midst, 20 years later having a fantastic season under Tony Skinnet's coach, who was the player there. Bill Courtney helped recruit him and so many of the other pieces to that team. He was an assistant on the Miami team that made the Final Four just a few years.
- [61:53]
Matt Norlander
Back.
- [61:55]
Gary Parish
A. An extremely kind.
- [61:57]
Matt Norlander
Man.
- [61:59]
Gary Parish
Always. You know, I talked to him here and there over the past decade. Ish. Whenever I needed just to check in or for something. Always available. He. He died suddenly. It was not expected and you know, rest in peace and nothing but the absolute best to everyone who knew and loved him, his family. That's a program at Temple who's, you know, had been on a bit of a win streak here, hasn't lost since December 6th. And now, you know, Courtney just joined the staff last off season and inside the walls of that program, like, everything changes. A guy who is with you every single day, he's just. He's gone. So my best to Adam Fisher and his players there. Temple does play tonight and was really, really just. I was walking my dog and I saw, you know, checking. Checking my phone. I'm just kind of standing there, you know, just stunned at what I'm seeing. I can't believe it. But a really, really good man and gone decades too.
- [62:57]
Matt Norlander
Soon. I think if you're on social media at all and you follow college basketball people, it was impossible for that to miss you yesterday. And it's just crushing, you know, like. Yeah, like you. I was just like, going through my day, probably complaining about my day.
- [63:18]
Gary Parish
Probably.
- [63:20]
Matt Norlander
Like, I'm tired and what. All the stuff you say when you're going through a day and then you see that and it just. It just hits you. And yeah, he. Bill had a lot of friends and he was an important part of the.
- [63:36]
Gary Parish
Sport.
- [63:37]
Matt Norlander
And yeah, that was tough. That was a tough thing to.
- [63:42]
Gary Parish
Say. Yeah. No doubt about it. Thursday, not nearly as popular. That's just how the schedule goes now. We've got Gonzaga on the road at Washington State. CBS Sports Network keep an eye on that one. I think that's really the. The one.
- [63:57]
Matt Norlander
Big. That's it. The only ranked team.
- [64:00]
Gary Parish
Yeah. CBS Sports Network has another triple header. Mexico, State of Liberty, Charleston at Towson. Charleston actually just. It's getting right. That's actually a good game in the caa. So there's something worth. We're checking out there. But it is a. It is a slow Thursday tonight. Tonight I do expect to be pretty noisy, I'd say before we get out of here. GP Let me bring up. Let me bring up the scoreboard. Just give you a quick, quick guess here on how many. How many ranked teams lose tonight? Top 25. We.
- [64:30]
Matt Norlander
Have.
- [64:33]
Gary Parish
Got. Let's see here. And went back to yesterday. Here we go. We've got Duke on the road against Cal. We've got Illinois on the road against Northwest Northwestern. We've got Carolina on the road against Stanford. We got Vandy on the road against Texas. We've got Michigan on the road against Washington. Those are the ranked teams on the road, in addition to others who are, who are at home. I'm gonna say, I'll say three ranked teams get taken out tonight and we'll have, we'll have plenty to talk to on.
- [65:02]
Matt Norlander
Friday. I'll take the under, but either way, we're gonna have plenty to talk.
- [65:05]
Gary Parish
About. Over under 2.5 over under 2.5 ranked teams.
- [65:09]
Matt Norlander
Lose. I'll take the under. I'll take the under, but I also took Iowa State over Kansas last night. So, like, I wouldn't pay attention to what I'm saying about this kind of stuff. I've never claimed, I've never, I've never claimed to be a good predictor. I don't really know that I've ever claimed to be good at anything, if we're being honest. All right? So don't blame me. I never said I was good at any of this stuff. Shouts to Devin Downey. Shouts to Chester, South Carolina. Terry Taylor was a legend. Huck Larnell thank you guys once again for watching Listening to the I Own College Basketball Podcast. If you're not subscribed, please go subscribe anywhere you subscribe to podcasts, Apple, Spotify, more of us than there are of them. That should be reflected in the comments. So do that and we will talk to you again on Friday morning. No matter what happens between now and Friday morning, other than, like, you know, some obviously big things that could happen, we're going to talk to you again on Friday morning. Till then, take.
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