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Eye On College Basketball
Milan Momcilovic saves Mark Pope’s offseason: Kentucky is now a Top 25 team. Plus: Arizona + Arkansas agree to a long-term series
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Josh
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Matt Norlander
There.
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Gary Parrish
I am Gary Parish. Welcome back. I own college basketball podcast. We are,
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Matt Norlander
we are, we are here. What I think just happened. What I just think just happened is G thought he was on the Gary Parish show. I think that's what was about to just happen.
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Gary Parrish
I was about to be presented by something.
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Matt Norlander
You know what? Go ahead. I don't get no. You think anyone's going to put up a stink? You want to just toss an additional sweet sponsor?
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Gary Parrish
Welcome back to the I Am College Basketball podcast where we sometimes discuss camel fighting, dodo birds and leaky black. Now I'm on track. Matt Norlander is here with me. If you're watching on YouTube, Honor Brandon Davies. The only way that he would respect you got to smash that like button. And if you haven't yet subscribed to the I College Basketball podcast, please also do that wherever you listen to podcast.
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Matt Norlander
Hold on. Before we keep going, have you ever unintentionally started the Gary Paris show on Grind City? Media by saying dodo birds and leaky black. Have you ever done that or almost. Have you pump faked yourself there?
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Gary Parrish
I have never. But where I have really had to catch myself multiple times is when we are doing this on television on CBS Sports Network. And I'm constantly throwing to breaks in ways that we don't normally throw to breaks here. And it's like. And we'll do that next here on the Ion College Basketball pie. And it's very easy for me to say next. And on the Gary Paris show, presented by Ortho South. Like, that's just sort of the words that come out of my mouth. And I've had to catch myself multiple times there. This was honestly just. I don't know. I spaced out a little bit. How you doing?
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Matt Norlander
Love it. I. I do love it. I. I love a little. A little curveball. Just say Ortho South. All right, I'll. I'll try and work them into the no context preview.
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Gary Parrish
Oh, they're gonna appreciate that. That's very nice. Or, hey, that's where I get my hamstring fixed. That's where I got my double tennis elbow fixed. Ortho south is. I've been through wars with Ortho South. All right.
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Matt Norlander
By the way, I might have to. I'm good right now. Knock on wood. Serious allergy situation going on up here in Connecticut. I did not bring any tissues up here with me. If I get. If I start sneezing, I might have to bail for about 90 seconds on this pod. But we're good right now. I might be jinxing it just by saying that, but I wanted to give you the heads up in case that happened.
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Gary Parrish
Yes. Is this wild? Among the things that people experience in life that I have no understanding of because I don't have this at all. Don't even tell Allergies. I have no allergies. I'm allergic to nothing. I don't even sneeze. I don't think I sneeze. I don't think I've ever sneezed.
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Matt Norlander
There's no way that's true.
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Gary Parrish
I don't think I've ever sneezed.
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Matt Norlander
That's not true.
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Gary Parrish
I've seen you sneeze. Oh, you can't prove that. Yeah.
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Matt Norlander
Because you've got a very. You've got a very gentle, quiet sneeze. I remember when it happened, I was
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Gary Parrish
like, what's that in reality? I must. I have sneeze. You know what? I don't want to come on here and start lying fresh on A Tuesday morning. I. I plead guilty. I've sneezed before, but I'm like a seven sneeze in a row guy. I can't do just one. It's a little bit like a Dorito. I can't eat one Dorito, and I can't sneeze one time. It's. It's 0 or 7.
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Matt Norlander
Yes, now that you say that, I do remember. I remember this happened at one time. We went to dinner, and you did a punch in a row. But I want to say, you're not allowed sneezer. Like, you're not allowed sneezer.
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Gary Parrish
But, buddy, I can go. I can go like, pop, pop, pop on you real quick, like, at you at two. I'll do a bunch. I'll do, like, seven to choose on you. And this is where it gets uncomfortable and awkward for me. And then we'll talk about stupid bass.
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Matt Norlander
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Gary Parrish
Because then somebody hears you sneeze. I don't know if they do this up there.
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Matt Norlander
I don't know if they do this
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Gary Parrish
up there where you heathens live, but down here in the south, it's pretty common practice. Somebody sneezes, somebody else says, bless you. And so I go, achoo. And they go, bless you. And then I go, achoo. And they're like, bless you. And then achoo. And they're like, bless you. And I'm like, just stop till the end. Can you hold. Shut up for a second? Hold your bless you to the end. It's like they show them. They tell you graduation. Like, we can't be clapping for every single kid that got a 71 in science class. All right, let's let them all go through and clap at the end. Get this thing over with. Same way. I prefer my bless yous. I appreciate the bless you. I like to be blessed, but I don't need to be blessed seven times in a row by. By your grandmother. You know, let's just. Just let me get all my chews out, and then bless me at the end, and let's move on.
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Matt Norlander
I do have sound of GP Sneezing, by the way.
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Gary Parrish
I wish I sneezed like a peacock. What if I sneeze like a peacock? Wouldn't that be fun?
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Matt Norlander
Incredible. You claiming not to have allergies is an outrage. But that's. Kentucky fans are already furious. We've gotten five minutes into this show and haven't talked about the biggest news related to their program.
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Gary Parrish
Okay, good news, Kentucky fans. If the allergies k in for Norlander and He has to step away. I'm going to be fine because I, I have sneezed before, but I don't plan on doing it at any point in the next 50 minutes or so. Let's get to the news. After a weekend of contemplating or whatever, Milan Momcilovich, the former Iowa State standout, has announced a commitment to Kentucky. Go Big Blue. The price for UK is reportedly an nil deal worth around $6 million, which is at least three times what the 6 foot 8 shooter made last season at Iowa State. And I believe probably even more than that. It is the latest bit of evidence that prices have skyrocketed for college basketball players. Clear byproduct of the issues in the Strait of Hormuz. Norlander, walk us through this. Can you explain to folks hanging out with us how Mark Pope beat Pat Kelsey and his hot wife and his healthy kid and the Louisville Cardinals for the Iowa State transfer who was the best remaining player in the portal?
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Matt Norlander
Yeah, not only the best remaining player in the portal, number two per our portal rankings, Louisville did get number one, Floyd Badunga. And then for a little bit there, there was a question of is Louisville going to land the top two players in the portal. But Momcilovic, they finalized all of the contract stuff throughout Monday and then into Monday evening. They got it done. Yes, I was told in the neighborhood of 6 million. I think it's going to be a little bit more than that. St. John's removed itself from the conversation once Yesifu committed there. Just like Momcilovich, a fringe first round pick. He's going to be paid handsomely. Not as much as Momcilovich to go and play for the Johnny's and then Arizona. Although it entered the conversation and did so late, it was never really like in there in there. It wasn't willing, slash able to commit on the financial level that Louisville and Kentucky were. My understanding Kentucky did have the largest financial package on the table from Chilovich. But Louisville did was pushing. I mean there was still as of Monday afternoon like it was still something of a question of if he would definitely go to Kentucky. It was still on the table but then they, they were able to get that done and Momcilovich made the right decision in this regard sitting here right now today. I mean he's going to make so much more money next season going to play for a premier program in college basketball. He's going to play for a coach that's had three top 15 per possession offenses in his his career. Pope has and one of those top 15 was when they were 10th overall at Ken Palm in year one in Lexington. Keep in mind, you know, Momcilovich, he averaged 16. What? 16 and change almost 17 points last season. Shot 48 from three point range. He's a career, a career what, 42%, 42.7%, three point shooter, something like that. GP. And he did that while not being the focal point of a scheme that Altzelberger ran at isu. They squeezed a ton out of him. Like that was a mutually beneficial relationship. And it is a stinger for Iowa State fans to, you know, they've lost a lot of really, you know, between their coach going to Penn State and you know, I'm all too aware of, of how things are, you know, they're, they're a bit bittersweet here for, for Iowa State and not just in men's basketball, but you lose Mom Chilovich, they couldn't financially compete with all this. But you know what? Yeah. At least you didn't lose your coach. At least Altar Burger is still sticking there and still around. I do think this is going to be the best season of Mom Chilovic, his career. Like he's going to go to Kentucky. He's going to, he's going to have his career. I think he'll average more than 17 points next season. GP. I think he'll shoot more three pointers next season than he ever has in his college career. I think his usage rate will be the highest that it'll ever be next season. Will it translate? We can get deeper into this in just a minute here. I just wanted to give kind of the backdrop of how this, all, all this played out. But, but I, I will it translate to, you know, big time success for Kentucky next season? Can they be a top three, a top four team in the SEC? Well, you take a look around, look at GP's off season, top 25 1. There's a lot of teams, they got some real deal rosters there, so that remains to be seen. But the bottom line here for Pope, as I wrote a column about it, you can read that.com or we'll drop the link in here after the fact on the YouTube description or in the audio, audio files here. You can tap through and give that a read. Mark Pope got the win he needed. Like he can have the next five months to live in some peace. They had a lot of high profile lifts. None more high profile than someone who wasn't a transfer, Tyron Stokes, who chose Kansas over Kentucky. But the past eight days. Gp, Big Time swing for big blue nation yet Malachi Marino, who we thought was going to come back, but there was at least a little bit, there was, you know, a few days worth of. Is he actually going to stay like, is this dude gonna try and go and see if he can somehow turn himself into like the 28th or 29th pick? No, he comes back, it's paid a handsome amount there. And then Momcilovich swings for Kentucky. Not only that, but does so and doesn't pick Louisville in the process. That was the other part of this that I thought was just so huge. If, if Mark Pope had lost out on Momcilovich who picked Louisville instead, one Louisville I think would have had a top five roster. I don't think you can make much of a case against it if you add him to what they already have. So it would have been that and another high profile whiff and it would have been utter calamity and chaos in Lexington going into next season. They avoid that altogether. And now it's a, it's a, it's a bright shiny day down there in that part of the state. And good on, good on Pope for getting it done. They get it done, it's going to cost him a pretty penny. Between Marino and mom Chilovic, they're going to spend 10 million plus on two players alone. This also means Kentucky will play, will pay for its roster in the realm of what it did last season when it was reported 22 million. I'd always been told it was around that 20 million mark. Regardless, they're going to spend 20 million plus again. They're hardly alone. There's going to be at least, there's at least 10 schools that are paying at least that amount of money next season. But this is the, the get for Kentucky that assures they're going to clear that 20 million mark on the roster again. But big time stuff. What's, what's your takeaway? You know, you and I had conversed privately and you know that my expectation was that he would, he would go to Kentucky finally he has. They got it done. Maybe it was a little bit, you know, 12 hours delayed from what we might have thought. But, but how does this news hit you and Kentucky going to be in your top 25 and 1 HP Kentucky
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Gary Parrish
will be in the top 25 and one update coming later today. They had not been in there for a while but the roster in place now is, is clearly to me top 20. I don't think quite top 10 but somewhere 10 to 20 range. I'll land them in there nicely. I don't think you got to be a college basketball insider to understand what happened here. I think you framed it properly. The most desperate program in this set of circumstances with the most money got the deal done. That's what happened here. Tommy Lloyd did not need to get this done to have a peaceful next five months. He's fine. Pat Kelsey did not need to get this done to have a peaceful next five months. He's fine. TJ Otzelberger, Rick Patino did not need to get this done to have a great next five months. They're good. Mark Pope did. And I, I think the way you framed it is, is the most accurate way to frame it. He just spent six, six million dollars or whatever to buy five months of peace and happiness and calmness, and then we're going to play the games and it can get wild real quick. We'll wait.
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Matt Norlander
Let's just wait for the games and we'll talk about the roster in a second. But, but at least in the here now gp, like, everything's settled. And by the way, this news broke, I think within 20 minutes of Kentucky getting knocked out of the baseball against West Virginia. So it was, it was an emotional swing for Big Blue Nation.
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Gary Parrish
Yes. We were locked in Kentucky's like, star hitter. Like, I grew up with his dad and his uncle. He went, he graduated high school, where my little guys go to school now. So we were locked in at the house. We had a fun night watching college baseball last night. And then this news breaks and, yeah, when the season starts, you're going to play the games and you better do that well or else it'll get nasty quick. That's not a secret. But my larger point is it could be nasty right now on June 2, 2026. It could be very tough today to be Mark Pope as the Kentucky basketball coach. It might be easy to be Mark Pope inside your house today, no matter what happened last night, but Mark Pope outside your house today would have been tough if this decision went a different way. And so I commend them for getting it done. There have been a lot of questions about swings and misses and things they could not get done. So if we're going to spend any energy discussing that, spend the same type of energy discussing this. At the end of the day, they did what they needed to do to get themselves in a place to get that program back to where it needs to be so that you can ensure they're not making a coaching change next March. They're in a good place now. It's not the best roster in the country, but it's a good enough roster to calm your fan base down and give you a shot to reasonably think you can compete at or near the top of the sec. And if you're competing at or near the top of the sec, you're competing for a national championship.
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Matt Norlander
Yeah, no doubt about it. Our live poll right now. We'll get to the results here at the end of the segment is what what people watching the show think the eventual seed for Kentucky will be next season. Mark Pope. By the way, they were ready. This was mom. She looked announced exactly at 10 Eastern. And I want to say this, this tweet from Pope went out within minutes of that. This is all of 10 seconds. It's a still image of Mark Pope on the beach, sunglasses on, drink in hand. Joshua, he says he doesn't have the audio. Can you just show the, can you show this? He, he played it along with 50 cents. Many men wish death upon me. Look at this picture of Pope. When's the last time you ever sat next to that much fruit?
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Gary Parrish
GP I mean we have, I mean we went to the market on, on, on Saturday. I, I got a fridge full of fruit. We're a fruit household. We, we constantly have, we constantly have a fridge full of fruit in our home.
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Matt Norlander
All right, he's holding, by the way, if you really pinch in there, a lot of Pope thigh, lot of Pope thigh, by the way. We've got some, we've got some watermelon grapes, apples, pineapples, obviously. Is that a, is that an oversized mango? I'm not sure what's going on. Not enough exotic fruit. I don't think Mark Pope is in the country at the moment, by the way. I think he's, I don't know where he is. Bahamas, Turks and cakes, Aruba, who knows. But, but he, as of yesterday he was, he was not state sided.
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Gary Parrish
They had border patrol on his ass when he got back. If, if he wouldn't have got this done. I know he might have had moved by him.
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Matt Norlander
He left the country without a surefire commitment from the most important prospect in the transfer portal the entire offseason. But they got it done. They got it done.
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Gary Parrish
There was another picture too, like beach and family stuff. And I was like that I saw yesterday and I was like he has this wrapped up.
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Matt Norlander
Yes. When that went out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Gary Parrish
Because like you, you can't not daughter apparently posted it.
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Matt Norlander
This is Kentucky's fan base. Like they, they follow the entire Pope family on all socials. Why Wouldn't they? Obviously. But then if you want to know
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Gary Parrish
why Dusty May is the coach at Michigan, it's because the fan base follows the entire family on social media.
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Matt Norlander
Exactly. But as these things would typically go,
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Gary Parrish
maybe my entire family on social media.
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Matt Norlander
It's just wild to me. But, yeah, I guess his daughter posted some photo of them on the beach or whatever. And then people. People are gonna. Kentucky fans will read into anything and everything, as they say.
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Gary Parrish
The way I read into that is Mark Pope is not a dumb person. And there is no way you let that type of picture get out. The moment before Pat Kelsey grabs the second rank transfer out of the portal. That. That's that. So, like, as soon as I saw that picture, I was like, well, I mean, I think we already knew where this was probably headed. But that, that was confirmation enough for me because you cannot let that happen. If you're uneasy at all this picture,
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Matt Norlander
by the way, I mean, just the dude was getting slaughtered by his fan base and then he posts this. He deserves. He deserves a happy week.
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Gary Parrish
Of course he does. But, like, it was ugly for a minute and it will eventually get ugly again. And if you don't believe me, text John Calipari. And if you don't believe him, text Tubby Smith. Like, this is just sort of the nature of the thing. Like, God bless. Like, I know sometimes Kentucky fans are like, you know, the relationship between the fan base and John Calipari deteriorated. And I gathered there was some of that kind of conversation connected to Mark Pope. And I get it. But, like, on a human level, I would struggle with that as well. Like, these people, the same people telling me they love me and then telling me they hate me every three months, like, that would drive me insane. I don't. I would not do. Well, John Calipari handled that stuff and Mark Pope handles that stuff way better than I would handle that stuff. Because, like, if I see one person I kind of know in a chat somewhere, say one thing I kind of don't, like one time, I'm like, f that person forever. I like, I hate them. I hate them so much.
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Matt Norlander
And that.
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Gary Parrish
And that is like your day to day life.
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Matt Norlander
Oh, yeah.
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Gary Parrish
Like, you're. If you're. The Kentucky coach, your best friends might like you one day and want you fired the next. That's a hard way to just go through life, I think. But the paycheck seems nice.
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Josh
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Matt Norlander
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Matt Norlander
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Gary Parrish
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Matt Norlander
Let's talk about the roster and how and while it sets up to to be here so Kentucky's likely starting lineup. Malachi Marino starting at the five, Momcilovich, I guess at the four with Cam Williams at the three, although they've got an interesting situation with their two forwards and their two guards. So Williams and Momcilovich kind of interchangeable in terms of how they could be used. And the same goes for their starting backcourt. Zoom Diallo, the transfer from Washington, and Alex Wilkins the transfer from Furman. They're both ball dominant like lead guards. I think the offense can can be quite fun. I'm interested to see how the Wilkins and Diallo dynamic works. Who's going to be the primary ball handler? And just talking to a variety of folks that know their games particularly well and having watched a little bit of both of them, they just seem to function best with the ball in their hands and they're both going to be starting, so that'll be a, that'll just be a scheme thing that they've got to figure out. Overall, I would think that's going to be the starting five on, on, on day one. And then they've got a few returning names. As I was prepping for Momcilovich to commit to Kentucky and just kind of running through the roster one more time. The biggest, I mean the starkest difference GP from this to the Caliper era, and there are so many. They only have two high school prospects committed. They're both outside the top 100. I was like, man oh man, the times are changing. That's not even a, I'm not even saying that's necessarily a bad thing. But man oh man, the time has changed. And as I wrote in the column, you know, after missing on Stokes, Rob Wright, Kentucky fans thought they were getting, I thought they were getting Donnie Freeman, who wound up going to St. John's instead, and some others as well. This just didn't, we've talked about this on the show. Like this just did not happen at UK because it was Kentucky under Cal because of what he could do. And that's why the fan base had, had really, you know, not handled it well. And that's, that was completely understandable, by the way. But I, I do like the roster. I think it is in the conversation to be top 25. I've seen some folks put out there that it's not top 20 quality. You said that as well, Evan Mia Kawa so he put out about 20 minutes after this went public. His tweet said Kentucky Roster Outlook Milan Chilovic Completes Mark Pope's Roster an absolutely massive ad. Kentucky should now be around a top 10 roster in the preseason according to evania.com don't sleep on Malachi Marino. He could have a massive sophomore year for uk. I agree with that. I actually think Marino will be a handful of the of the best sophomores in the sport next season. But this is just Evans projections, his database. Top 10 potentially. That is lofty. I can't go there. I can't go from Kentucky being wherever they were before they got Monk Gilovich,
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Gary Parrish
you know, anywhere that's 30 to 40,
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Matt Norlander
wherever it was to top 10 that is not, not saying they can't get their GP, but that's like Evan is putting with his model. He's more aggressive than anyone. They've got Usman Njai who will probably, you know, be the biggest minutes. Get her off the bench there as well. I don't know. We'll see. I am, I would. I, I do my rankings in October. I don't know where I'm. Have Kentucky then Momcilovich in the fold with Marino back and again, just a massive eight day span for Kentucky. You cannot overstate how big that was. I think this has got to probably be a top 25 roster. But, but, but I do want to see how Pope kind of works. All this stuff together with the stuff with the guards I just mentioned and then they don't have like overwhelming size and physicality just yet. They should be fun. They should score a ton. I, I want to see mom Sheila, which be a flamethrower, come in and be a guy that drops 19 a game and shoots 45 from beyond the arc. If he can do that, then they've got some real promise there. But I still think there's still a lot of curiosity and uncertainty around this roster for all of the impact that Momchilovich's edition obviously brings.
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Gary Parrish
Yeah, I'm not arguing with Evan or his model or any model, but if yesterday morning I had Kentucky at the very least 27th, so outside of the top 25 and one at the very least 27, I can't then jump them to 10 because of the addition of a second team, all big 12 guy, which by the way, that is what we're talking about here. He was ninth. If you want to go back to Evan. Mia.com he was ninth in BPR in the Big 12 last season. Momcilovich. And so great player, incredible shooter. But if you want to go from unranked to top 10, I think you got to add Victor Wembanyama as opposed to Milan Manchilovich. And honestly, I think that sort of helps explain For Iowa State fans. Like, and this is also a reminder, like, there are levels to this, you know, like, Iowa State is an incredible college basketball program.
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Matt Norlander
Yes.
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Gary Parrish
Great coach, great tradition, Hilton, Magic, all that stuff. They just weren't going to spend $6 million on Milan Montilovic, period.
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Matt Norlander
Yeah.
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Gary Parrish
And. And like, this is a little bit like.
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Matt Norlander
And I've proven that they don't really need to. Like, they would have been better with him, don't get me wrong. But like, TJ Altoberger has passed the test every single season so far.
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Gary Parrish
Right.
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Matt Norlander
So I don't fault him on that. And they just have certain limitations. He doesn't even speak around it, nor should he have to.
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Gary Parrish
So, like, yeah, T.J. i think he loves Momcilovich and would love to have him back, but if the price is $6 million, you know, I don't know that that's a program that has that type of money to throw around. And if they do, that's not where they wanted to throw it around. I don't think that's where they found value. And it kind of reminds me a little bit, I don't think it's too different than this. I think Bill Self would have loved to have, would have liked to have Floyd Badunga back, but not at that price. I don't think Bill Self would have paid what Louisville paid to get but
- [28:34]
Matt Norlander
in the 5 million range. And they just weren't gonna go there.
- [28:36]
Gary Parrish
They just not gonna go there with him. Now they might go there with somebody else, but they weren't gonna go. I, I have found this to be a trend. If you are an awesome transfer portal guy, you are probably worth more to a school that's never had you than the school that just had you at a reduced price. That. That's. That's a, that's a real thing that's happening.
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Matt Norlander
Generally speaking, that is absolutely the case there. And be interesting to see how Iowa State does next season without him. By the way, coincidentally, ironically enough, Kentucky's last game came against Iowa State with Milanovich on the floor. They got knocked out of the tournament by Iowa State. Lam. Chilovich had 20 in that game. They were blowed out. That's really what set into motion until the past eight days all of the angst and anxiety around Mark Pope in that. In that program and I'm sure even within that staff as well. By the way, GP in my, in my story from overnight, when I was just prepping and, and I was trying to get a. I was just doing a little bit of research this stunned me. Do you real. I. Kentucky fans that are diehards probably realize this, but. And if I knew it, I just forgot it. But I went back and looked at the entire history. Do you realize that Kentucky last made the Elite 8 in 2019, which means the earliest they could get back is obviously 2027, if they even do that. So it's a guaranteed at least an eight year gap. I know we didn't have that one year with, with COVID and the tournament, all that stuff, the eight year gap. Kentucky right now, this is mind blowing to me. Right now is in the midst of its longest Elite Eight drought in the history of the tournament. You go back to the tournament starting in 1939. Not. No, not 1979, 1939. Kentucky has never gone this long between being one of the final eight teams remaining in the NCAA tournament. I think that also helps explain a lot of the conversation around Mark Pope and everything there you get Momcilovich. Hopefully you can do a good job and you can resolve those issues. But he still enters next season on the hot seat. They're going to have a change. Athletic director. There's going to be. I think there's just going to be a lot of institutional changes that are forthcoming with that athletic department over the next X number of months there. And yet despite all of that, Josh has the.
- [30:55]
Gary Parrish
Josh still just a rat in a cage.
- [30:59]
Matt Norlander
There you go. Yes. I don't think I've got that drop. What do I have here? Hold on. This is deep in my.
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Gary Parrish
You just said despite and my head went straight there. Yeah.
- [31:08]
Matt Norlander
What do I have here? I've got the. I've got the whole song here. I think. I don't think I've got the Secret Destroy secret. I don't think I've got the whole song anymore. Anyway. Okay. Kentucky fans have absolutely logged on to the show this morning. We appreciate you. Why? Live poll, YouTube. What seed will Kentucky get next season in the NCAA tournament as a result of adding Milan Momchilovich? Three seed or better. 51.
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Gary Parrish
Okay, let's go. Go Big Blue.
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Matt Norlander
Four or five seed 30. So 80 of our live audience says Kentucky is a five seater better next season. Six or seven seed 12. And then eight seater worse. Eight percent.
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Gary Parrish
All right, Mark, if you're sitting on the beach watching, you know what you gotta do. You know where your fan base has set the standard. I actually better 85 seater better. And then don't lose to St. Peter's correct.
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Matt Norlander
Let's just guess it right now and then we can wrap. However you want to wrap Kentucky seed on selection Sunday in a 76 team NCAA tournaments? I'll go first. I will say put me, put me with Kentucky on. I don't want to yuck the yum as the kids say put me as Kentucky on the five line. I'll say they're, I'll say they're the final five seed on selection Sunday next year. Let's see you.
- [32:38]
Gary Parrish
I, I was, I was gonna say four in the four. If I were answering the poll, I would say four or five in the four or five range.
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Matt Norlander
Four or five. It's not the same four or five.
- [32:48]
Gary Parrish
I'm trying to figure out exactly where I'm going to slot them in the top 25 and one here. So I'm looking at this now. It's right on the four, five line.
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Matt Norlander
They're 16 or better. There are four.
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Gary Parrish
I understand how, I understand division. I understand four times four and all that stuff. All right, okay. They're either gonna be a. I'm gonna have them in that 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 somewhere.
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Matt Norlander
There we go.
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Gary Parrish
Mark Pope, you know what you have to do. The standard has been set.
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Matt Norlander
It has. As for what happens, we'll get to that once the game starts. Congratulations, Mark Pope, Kentucky fans. This also just makes the sport more interesting that we've got a good player going to a team like this. One more team to consider that will be relevant heading into next season.
- [33:34]
Gary Parrish
That's right. All right, we got another back and forth series in the works between two big brands, Arizona and Arkansas. They go play basketball against each other non league scheduling. Norlander had the scoop this morning. I'll get him to walk us through it next. First word, partners.
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Gary Parrish
news from Tuesday morning, the headlines at CBSSports.com Arizona and Arkansas have agreed to a three year series. Coach Tommy and coach Cal Norlander give us the details where and when we watch Wildcats from different states and time zones do battle on the court.
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Matt Norlander
Yeah, you've heard of cats and dogs living together. This is cats and hogs playing together. It's at least three years potentially and possibly slash probably four. But the fourth year still details to be determined. So love to see this next season. Arizona, Arkansas are going to play each other in Phoenix on December 19th. That's at the Mortgage Matchup Center. Everyone knows what the mortgage match they changed.
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Gary Parrish
That, is that, is that the, is that where the Suns play?
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Matt Norlander
It is.
- [36:31]
Gary Parrish
It's where the sun changed that, that thing name gets changed more than I would.
- [36:37]
Matt Norlander
I would love to know just out of morbid curiosity, maybe not even more, but just curiosity, what NBA arena or arena that hosts a professional American sports franchise has had the most sponsorship name changes over the past 25 years? Because this one feels like it's got to be in the top three.
- [36:55]
Gary Parrish
The one in St. Louis, it felt like used to change all the time.
- [36:58]
Matt Norlander
That's true. That's true.
- [37:00]
Gary Parrish
Okay, let's get the history of this, this place.
- [37:02]
Matt Norlander
All right, you go ahead. You, you bring up the history.
- [37:05]
Gary Parrish
You talk, you, you explain series.
- [37:08]
Matt Norlander
You go ahead.
- [37:08]
Gary Parrish
I'm gonna research the arena over here.
- [37:10]
Matt Norlander
Mortgage Matchup Center. Yeah, I got it.
- [37:12]
Gary Parrish
Like does it do your thing, I'll do mine.
- [37:15]
Matt Norlander
I mean, does it get corporate bland naming than that? Oh, yeah, yeah. But that's where the game's going to be played December 19th of next season. Then Arizona will play at Arkansas Bud Walton arena for the 2027, 2028 season. I figured that'll probably be somewhere in November of 27. And then Arkansas will go to Tucson. Arizona will have the hosting duties sometime in November or December of 2028. And then there is a fourth year option as a part of this deal. The teams have verbally agreed the contracts are not all in, but they've been talking here for a number of weeks and the fourth year, if Slash when it comes to be will be somewhere closer to Arkansas's territory. It will not be at Arkansas because what you can see here is next year is a quote unquote neutral site game that's in the state of Arizona. Then they'll play at Arkansas's joint, then they'll play there Arizona's joint. And then in year four, the idea is that they would travel and play somewhere relatively close to Arkansas's territory. Hell, maybe it'll wind up being at FedEx form or something relatively in GP's backyard. But that's all to be determined. The fourth year. We don't know on this, but these are two teams that GP has I think in his top 10 at this point. They set up well, even if you want to say that's an aggressive outlook, like they're going to be top 15 teams next season. They just met in the Sweet 16. The thing that amazes me about this is that in credit to Caliperi for this. They just met in the Sweet 16. In that game, Arkansas got mowed down by Arizona. I was there. I was out in San Jose. Final score 109 to 88. 109. I mean it was hot knife through soft butterfly situation for, for Arizona on the Hogs in that game. Just as a reminder, our Arizona had six players score at least 14 points. That had never happened in the history of any game in the NCAA tournament. Arizona did it to Arkansas. Arizona shot 63.7% from the field. That was the second best shooting performance in overall field goal percentage in any Sweet 16 game over the past 26 years. And Arizona was the first team to ever in a tournament game make at least 6% of its shots, 60% of its threes and make 30 made free throws in the tournament game. They had never done that. And Cal took that lashing and said, yes sir, I'll have some more. In fact, I happen to be walking and talking with Tommy after that win and Cal was going to the press conference and in defeat. Cal was awesome. He's like, I'm going to paraphrase here because it's after the fact. But he was basically in awe of how good. He's like, I knew you guys were good. I didn't realize you'd be that good. You can go and win this national title. All this stuff. It was a really cool moment in interaction of all about 25, 30 seconds there. And good on Cal for doing it. Leaning into it. Got two high profile programs who have not played GP in the regular season since 1995. 1995 was the last time these two teams played. I do not have an audio drop for 1995. If anyone knows a song that name that references 1995 specifically, I'll add it to the audio board. But cool little scheduling coup and we have an end. We have another NCLB tournament rematch happening next season in college basketball. Keep in mind we have Yukon. Yukon's doing this with Duke, Yukon's doing this with Michigan, Yukon's doing this with Illinois. And now we have Arizona and Arkansas adding to the trend. Very, very cool stuff. We'll have to wait until the very end of the non conference season, that week of Christmas. But nonetheless they're leaning into it and I love to see it.
- [40:44]
Gary Parrish
I love get two big brands on a basketball court together. I'll get and applaud it. You know me, I don't want to be repetitive any more than I naturally am. I would prefer this to be Fable, Tucson, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.
- [40:58]
Matt Norlander
At least we get that. And this isn't just too neutral. So I love to see that.
- [41:01]
Gary Parrish
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is, this was the different. It's better than it could have been. I guess that's one way to look at it. But this type of thing was among the biggest topics of conversation at Big 12 spring meetings last week. It was interesting hearing coaches discuss nil and general managers and how they go about it. Because I was standing at one point with, you know, five of the best coaches in the sport, like Final Four coaches, current hall of Famer, future hall of Famer, whole deal. And it was interesting to me how different and strongly their opinions were on certain things like should you have a general manager or not? Was it like two of the very best coaches in the sport have very different opinions about this? And if you have a general manager, how much control what should the response? I was just Fascinated with that part of it. But another conversation that was just a constant was non conference scheduling flexibility and how many games should you be playing in your league? And within the same league, they can't even get a consensus because what is good for Arizona and Kansas might not be good for Oklahoma State and Utah.
- [42:25]
Matt Norlander
Right.
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Gary Parrish
And, and if you're Brett, your mark, the Big 12 commissioner, you want to give, you want, not give. You want your programs to have flexibility to schedule stuff like this, but the more games they take off campus, the less control the Big 12 has over them. So you've got a league office pushing for. If you guys are going to keep doing neutral courts and we understand why, big games, lots of money, we understand it. But if you're going to keep doing that, we got to get inventory on the back end. And the only way we can do that now if you're going to keep taking games to neutral courts is we got to have more conference games. And then you got. I don't want to put names on it, but the biggest brands in the Big 12, they, they would like to stay at 18 because they want to be able to do these types of things as opposed to play a two more Big 12 games that don't move the needle necessarily the way if you create something like this, a needle can be moved. So there's a real push pull within leagues right now from some of the most powerful coaches because just trust me when I tell you everybody looked at what John Shire and Duke just pulled off and is trying to, to is now asking themselves two questions. Are we a candidate to do something like that? And if so, how do we pull it off? And, and, and so those conversations were just as heated last week and I'm sure in the SEC and other places as, as any conversations going on right now in terms of like inside college basketball coaching back and forth stuff.
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Matt Norlander
Yeah, I, I checked in with someone Thursday, maybe Friday, just to get a sense of like, okay, next season the Big 12 will play 18 league games again, which is my preference, by the way. I think I'd, I'd rather have 18 than 20.
- [44:12]
Gary Parrish
I could just tell you matter of factly, there's not a consensus within the league. Some coaches would rather play 20. Yeah, some would, would, would hate anything more than 18. Yes, the league wants 20 and would probably be happy to go to 22 if you'd let them.
- [44:25]
Matt Norlander
Oh, God, please.
- [44:26]
Gary Parrish
They're never going to 22. I don't want to say never, but the coaches will, they'll. That'll be a fight but the, the push pull right now is the league and some of the bottom, bottom ish programs. Yeah, wouldn't mind 20 would like 20 because it's just easier and better for them. But the biggest brands I think mostly want 18.
- [44:45]
Matt Norlander
I hope they stick with 18. One source that's very familiar with all this stuff told me that they put it at 60% as of right now that they'll eventually get back to 20, but we'll see. 60% is not 70, it's not 90, it's not 95. That's some good intel from GP there and I would just prefer 18 unless you can do a round robin. The Biggie says a double round robin and that's completely makes sense. Biggie should go to 20 because then you got everyone playing each other twice. All these other leagues are too big. Keep it at 18. Give more opportunities for non conference scheduling and, and and empower more programs that matter the top 30 or so schools in the country to play these kind of games. Because now we've gone from 31 to 32 regular season games. You now have 76 freaking teams that are getting in this tournament. There's no excuse for these coaches not to schedule as ambitiously and as creatively as possible. By keeping it at 18 games versus 20, I think you allow for more opportunity there. So I love the fact that we're getting this game. It'll be neutral next season, then we go home and homes. But both coaches leaned into it and, and good on them for doing so. This is another really really good situation. Maybe sometime soon we'll just give a refresher for our audience on just you know, 15 or 20 of the most notable non conference games that are on tap for next season. But we are building out again another really really good non con season. You'll recall every week listeners, we went into this GP last season there were more non conference ranked on ranked matchups. I think we finished at 47, maybe 46. These were ranked games between teams that did not face each other in conference play. There were more instances of that last season than any season in the history of college basketball. I don't know if next season can match or best that, but I think we're going to get close and that's a really really good sign because obviously we got to have as much interesting inventory as possible in November and December for college years.
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Gary Parrish
So Arizona, Arkansas will at least one time be played inside the mortgage matchup.
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Matt Norlander
What's the history? What do we got here? What's this? I'm telling You. I know. Stick Resort. I know. It was the Talking Stick Resort.
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Gary Parrish
I'll never forget Talking Stick. How many different names has the mortgage Matchup center had since it opened in 1992 at the cost of $89 million? Oh, buddy, you can't get that now. Not for 89. Not with the straight closed.
- [46:55]
Matt Norlander
That's true. As a. As a fellow who grew up loving, obviously, Jordan and the Bulls, I remember. I was hoping you're gonna trivia time to that because I remember watching Bull Suns 93 finals and. And them doing the NBC, doing the shots of the arena. And it was like this brand new arena. So I would have guessed. I would. I think I might. 91. So anyway, how many times it changed?
- [47:16]
Gary Parrish
Yeah. How many. How many different years? You could call Diddy Diddy or Puff Daddy or Sean Combs.
- [47:24]
Matt Norlander
Move along. Yep.
- [47:25]
Gary Parrish
How many?
- [47:26]
Matt Norlander
I will say. I'm going to say seven name changes in 33 years.
- [47:33]
Gary Parrish
Ding, ding, ding. Seven. Seven. All right. Let's see how smart you are. Name them.
- [47:41]
Matt Norlander
No, no shots.
- [47:43]
Gary Parrish
You got the mortgage Matchup Center.
- [47:45]
Matt Norlander
I got Talking stick. That's all I got.
- [47:47]
Gary Parrish
Talking Stick is great.
- [47:48]
Matt Norlander
I'll say. Suns arena was one of them.
- [47:50]
Gary Parrish
Talking Stick Resort Arena, Phoenix Suns Arena.
- [47:54]
Matt Norlander
Give it to me.
- [47:55]
Gary Parrish
That's when. That's when you know you got a bad sales staff when you're calling, you're building the Phoenix Suns Arena. Yo, somebody better sell this Phoenix.
- [48:04]
Matt Norlander
Charming. You name the building after the team that that plays inside of it.
- [48:09]
Gary Parrish
Okay? We got Mortgage Matchup Center, Talking Stick Resorts Arena, Phoenix Suns Arena.
- [48:17]
Matt Norlander
Okay.
- [48:18]
Gary Parrish
It has also been America West Arena.
- [48:22]
Matt Norlander
I think I knew that.
- [48:24]
Gary Parrish
That's the debut. That's the original.
- [48:25]
Matt Norlander
Yeah, yeah, There we go.
- [48:27]
Gary Parrish
America West Arena.
- [48:28]
Matt Norlander
What's America west, by the way?
- [48:30]
Gary Parrish
I think it was an airline, maybe. Oh, but this is one of my big. This is one of my big things. Right now. I'm at FedEx Forum.
- [48:39]
Matt Norlander
Yeah, you are perfect. One word, by the way. FedEx Forum.
- [48:43]
Gary Parrish
Thank you. And it's not the FedEx Forum. The Grizzlies don't play inside the FedEx Forum. They play inside FedEx Forum. Grizzlies, warriors inside FedEx Forum. Not at the FedEx Forum. And FedEx Forum is all smushed together. One word. But my point, nobody has to ask, what is FedEx? What does FedEx for me? You know what my favorite one is? Smoothie King Center. I love Smoothie New Orleans.
- [49:04]
Matt Norlander
Yeah.
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Gary Parrish
Yes. Everybody knows what a Smoothie King is. Now, should you really be naming your arena after a milkshake? I Don't know. But of course, of course. Let's just go with of course because they've got that hulk. I tell you what, you talk about the prices, the straight a hormu you. I went to Smoothie King the other day. They got.
- [49:23]
Matt Norlander
Don't even tell me you needed to smoothies.
- [49:25]
Gary Parrish
You ready for this? I'm not exaggerating.
- [49:27]
Matt Norlander
Gusted. If this number is above $35, three
- [49:30]
Gary Parrish
smoothies small for me because I'm trying to, you know, trying to watch myself a little bit.
- [49:37]
Matt Norlander
Okay.
- [49:38]
Gary Parrish
My little guys got the big ones. Whatever. Add it all up, tax and the whole deal. They said, GP just. We're gonna ring your card up. I said, sure, no problem. 30. It was 30 plus for three smoothies. I was like, what is going. What is going on in the straight? That smoothies now cost 40 bucks. I don't know. What was it? So I like an arena where I don't have to wonder what's going on with you.
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Matt Norlander
Yeah.
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Gary Parrish
And there's too many times in Phoenix, I don't know what's going on with them. America West Arena. I'm going to call it an airline, but I can't say for sure. US Airways Center.
- [50:12]
Matt Norlander
Yeah, of course. The US Airway Center. Of course. Yeah.
- [50:14]
Gary Parrish
They were PHX Arena. Like an airport code.
- [50:19]
Matt Norlander
Yeah, it is.
- [50:19]
Gary Parrish
You know you got a bad sales staff when you're naming your arena after an airport code. And the Footprint Center. They were the Footprint Center.
- [50:27]
Matt Norlander
Ah, yeah. Okay.
- [50:28]
Gary Parrish
Okay, ready? What? Footprint Center. What does that mean?
- [50:35]
Matt Norlander
Nobody knows.
- [50:35]
Gary Parrish
Nobody knows. Somebody at Footprint paid money for that. And we don't know what they do. What is the point? I know what they do at Smoothie king. They charge me 75 for some strawberries and milk and ice. Okay. I know what. I know what they do. I know what they do at FedEx forum. They were overnight to anywhere in the world for a beautiful price. The most affordable shipping price you could ever have. I know what's going on at FedEx forum.
- [51:01]
Matt Norlander
Yep.
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Gary Parrish
What on earth is Footprint doing?
- [51:05]
Matt Norlander
I'm at a loss. I got. I got no idea.
- [51:09]
Gary Parrish
I'm a guess. I bet they look up your DNA. Let's see what. Let's see what Footprint does. What does Footprint do?
- [51:16]
Matt Norlander
You have. You have a blast with that. You want to Google that right now?
- [51:19]
Gary Parrish
Yeah. What does Footprint do?
- [51:21]
Matt Norlander
Pretty sure GP needed to be gone by now, but. All right, Sounds good.
- [51:24]
Gary Parrish
Plant based fiber technology and material.
- [51:27]
Matt Norlander
There you go.
- [51:27]
Gary Parrish
You ready? Now I know what Footprint does from company there.
- [51:31]
Matt Norlander
Oh, yeah, there we go.
- [51:31]
Gary Parrish
Still have no idea what that even means?
- [51:34]
Matt Norlander
Aerial science organization that engineers fiber based packaging in an effort to address the environmental crisis of plastic pollution.
- [51:41]
Gary Parrish
Is that the thing Kawhi Leonard was involved in? Is this the thing Pablo caught Kawhi with?
- [51:45]
Matt Norlander
No, no. That was aspiration. The trees and all that.
- [51:51]
Gary Parrish
There's so many businesses out there, aren't there?
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Matt Norlander
Hell of a Footprint. Footprint was founded by Troy Swope. Hell of a name, Troy. What's your name? Troy Swope. Good on him. This is actually. It sounds like a company with really good intentions and making the world a better place.
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Gary Parrish
Yeah.
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Matt Norlander
In 2021, Footprint was named a CNBC Disruptor 50 company.
- [52:13]
Gary Parrish
What are they. But what are they doing today? What are they doing right now?
- [52:17]
Matt Norlander
I don't know, man.
- [52:17]
Gary Parrish
They've probably been replaced by robots.
- [52:20]
Matt Norlander
I hope not.
- [52:20]
Gary Parrish
They've probably been replaced by robots.
- [52:23]
Matt Norlander
I certainly hope not. You know what? I think the Suns drafted deandre Ayton. Footprint said, we got to get out of here. We can't be associated with this.
- [52:31]
Gary Parrish
They changed that name a lot. I just wish they would. I just wish they'd settle down in Phoenix. Just settle down. Settle on a name. Pick a name.
- [52:38]
Matt Norlander
We got it. What is it called? The Mortgage Matchup Center. Now.
- [52:42]
Gary Parrish
And like, what does that even mean?
- [52:43]
Matt Norlander
I don't know.
- [52:44]
Gary Parrish
Who wants their mortgages matched up?
- [52:46]
Matt Norlander
I know exactly.
- [52:46]
Gary Parrish
I want my mortgages paid off.
- [52:48]
Matt Norlander
Yeah.
- [52:49]
Gary Parrish
I wanna. I want my arena to be called the Mortg Payoff Center.
- [52:52]
Matt Norlander
Zero Mortgage Center.
- [52:54]
Gary Parrish
That's what we consider no mortgage center. What is a mortgage? Match my mortgage and match it up against your mortgage. Your mortgage would fare against my mortgage.
- [53:04]
Matt Norlander
Just atrocious.
- [53:05]
Gary Parrish
What are they doing? Who names this stuff?
- [53:10]
Matt Norlander
The people. People hop on a bunch of meetings. They get in the room and they say, here's what we're gonna do.
- [53:14]
Gary Parrish
Well, they better not ever let me in there because I'm gonna hold my hand up and go, they're not good. That's what you're gonna do as something. This is just. I don't know what's happening. Anyway, have we done enough today?
- [53:25]
Matt Norlander
That's a show. I did not need to bail for my allergies, which is great.
- [53:29]
Gary Parrish
Hey, that is great. Congratulations. I didn't sneeze one time. Hope you noticed.
- [53:33]
Matt Norlander
I did. Now I really. At some point, I need you to sneeze on the show.
- [53:38]
Gary Parrish
It is weird. I will just like going through life. You will just sneeze at random parts of the day.
- [53:43]
Matt Norlander
Oh, yeah.
- [53:43]
Gary Parrish
But never on tv. I don't think I've ever sneezed. On tv. Why you think that is?
- [53:48]
Matt Norlander
Don't. Don't know. I've been caught. I've been caught with a. With a. With a bad cough, though. You ever get caught on.
- [53:55]
Gary Parrish
Oh, of course I've done that. I mean, I've done entire seasons where I can't speak.
- [53:58]
Matt Norlander
That's true. I never have to sneeze, but I. I have serious issues, actually, sometimes talking
- [54:04]
Gary Parrish
on this podcast for I. I've done entire seasons where I can't speak, but I've never sneezed. Never sneezed.
- [54:10]
Matt Norlander
Tell you what's a thrill ride. Driving in traffic and a big sneeze comes on. That ever happened to you behind the wheel, bro? You gotta let one out.
- [54:19]
Gary Parrish
Whoo. I drive like this. I already told you.
- [54:21]
Matt Norlander
Oh, yeah. The whole. Nevermind.
- [54:23]
Gary Parrish
I drive like this every day. I got myself driving back. They took it away for a whole week. I don't even take away my son's iPhone when he fails a spelling test for a week. They took my driving technology away for a whole week. I couldn't wait to get it back.
- [54:37]
Matt Norlander
Every show, the audience gets more and more respect for you, so they.
- [54:40]
Gary Parrish
For a whole week. They were like, I didn't think you could just take technology from somebody. I purchased that. You can't just take it from me. They took it away from me. But I got it back now. And I've been. I've been better. I've been better.
- [54:53]
Matt Norlander
Josh. Someone forwarded me. Someone commented. I don't know if it was in the tweet. I think somebody tweeted at me. Someone got. Sent it. Sent it to me, like, last week. And this. And the comment was.
- [55:06]
Gary Parrish
It made me.
- [55:07]
Matt Norlander
It really, like, made me laugh. It was just the. The. The straightforwardness. One sentence. It was something like, GP taking a nap, going 80 miles per hour is absolutely wild, or something like that
- [55:21]
Gary Parrish
all the time. I cannot stay awake in my car anymore now. I think it's a mental thing. It's like, it, like, I will lay in bed and just stay awake.
- [55:29]
Matt Norlander
You're a narcoleptic going down the highway. It should not be a thing. Should not be a thing.
- [55:34]
Gary Parrish
Just I. I look, I sent y' all that picture. I told you. They took it away. Look at it. They temporarily took my stuff away, but I got it back now. I'm good. I'm good. But, like, I will lay on the couch and be like, I need to fall asleep, and I can't fall asleep, but I get my car immediately. I'm out.
- [55:52]
Matt Norlander
Idiotic, dude. I don't know. I don't know how you get there. I, I don't. Knowing you and how you. I don't even know how you do that.
- [56:00]
Gary Parrish
I'll show you how you put sunglasses on so those cameras can't tell your eyes are closed. That's the first thing you do. You take your hat, you put it just like this, and then you go.
- [56:14]
Matt Norlander
Gp.
- [56:20]
Gary Parrish
And you do one of those. Every once in a while you do one of those.
- [56:22]
Matt Norlander
You go, oh, okay. Okay.
- [56:23]
Gary Parrish
There's a truck.
- [56:25]
Matt Norlander
Josh. I'm snagging that. I'm snagging that screenshot from the note.
- [56:29]
Gary Parrish
This is going to be viral if, if the worst thing ever happens. Of course I'm trusting. Hey, it's a shame. Yeah, I, they told me I could trust the technology. I'm trusting it. I'm really trusting it. I'm trusting it more than most. Shouts to Devin Downey. Shout outs to Chester, South Carolina. Terry Teagle's a legend. Huck Larnell Hormuz.
- [56:57]
Matt Norlander
I don't, I, I, I'm not optimistic about this hormone situation.
- [57:02]
Gary Parrish
I'm not either.
- [57:03]
Matt Norlander
I'm not. I saw, I saw something where someone, maybe this is an economist. It could be no one, honestly. It got shared plenty for every, for every day that the straight is coming closed. It will take the America. They estimate it'll take the American economy like a week to recover, to return to normalcy. We're on track for like July of 2028 at this point.
- [57:29]
Gary Parrish
We'll have an expansion by then. We'll have a 9016 tournament. Gas prices finally be coming back down.
- [57:39]
Matt Norlander
I'll talk to you later this week, Hill there. Take care.
- [57:54]
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I think your kid is walking up the slide.
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