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Eye On College Basketball
Nebraska’s amazing unbeaten start continues; Michigan unbeaten no more after Wisconsin stunner; the most important wins and losses from Saturday
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Josh
We spend over 690 minutes a week thinking about football. Yeah, that's more than 11 hours watching.
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Highlights, arguing rankings, running mock drafts. It's what makes NFL fans the most passionate fans in the world.
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Josh
And we know sometimes it only takes one play to win the game. One quick decision during a timeout can change everything.
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Same goes for game day in real life. We spend hours prepping food, setting up TVs, planning the perfect tailgate. But what about planning how you'll get home?
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Josh
Think about how long it takes you to smoke ribs or make your famous chili. Now think about this. It only takes one minute to make a plan so you don't drive impaired.
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Whether you're hosting, heading to a friend's place, or catching the game at a.
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Josh
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GP (Gary Parish)
& Co. Hey there. I am Gary Parish. Welcome back CBS Sports. I own college basketball podcast where we sometimes discuss camel fighting, dodo birds and leaky black. Matt Norlander is here with me. I swear Square. He's just behind a Bears logo. If you watch it on YouTube, be Brandon Davies smash a little bit. And if you haven't yet subscribed to the I Own College Basketball podcast, please go do that wherever you subscribe to Pack podcast like Apple and Spotify. Let's get into it. And I, I don't think I'd be a good friend co worker if I didn't start right there with the Chicago Bears logo. We're going to get to Nebraska winning, we're going to get to Michigan losing. But let's start with what happened last night. Bears over packers buddy. I had no interest other than I wanted you and my other friends who are Bears fans to be happy. That was incredible. That was, that was something. Tell me how you experienced that last night because I imagine that was a, that was a, that was a fun night in the.
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Northlander house.
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Josh
It was. Although I wasn't in the Norlander house. I was in an Airbnb in Stratton, Vermont. I spent eight hours of the day skiing. And my thanks to everyone at Zero Gravity Brewery, Mount Snow. Really good people. Appreciate the hospitality there. I was twice as exhausted, no, three times as exhausted, watching the Bears versus what I did on the slopes for eight hours earlier in the day. Unbeknownst to me, my good buddy Rich was, I was, I was so invested and involved in this game that like he was sitting on the couch, he was, he was filming me. So I do have my just completely obnoxious reactions to the fourth quarter as it went along, which I will not share on this podcast. But I appreciate my buddy Rich getting that done. My other good buddy, my long standing friend Hans, who is a die hard Indiana fan, we can get to his Hoosiers eventually. Here he was, exhausted from the day. He was going to bet the Bears and I said do not bet on the Bears. Don't do this to me while this game is happening. He actually cashed out and went to bed at 213 because he was exhausted. He's like, something's got to change here. He goes to bed, they come back and win. He's as responsible as anyone else. As much as the players. Anything. It was unreal. I'll be quick on this. The Bears never win that game ever, folks. Ever. It never happens against the packers in that spot. Biggest comeback period by the, by the franchise since 06. The Cardinals game. Incredible. It was one of the all time, all time wins. So we're gonna get to the hoops, folks. But yes, this. It just so happened that my, you know Yearly January Vermont ski getaway landed here. I was really bummed not to watch my watch with my kids on FaceTime for the entire first quarter. Wife let them stay up to near halftime. They went to bed. I made my wife stay up. I made her. She was. We were three hours apart, but she stayed up till the end. FaceTime her FaceTime, my mom texts were flying in. Unbelievable. Bear down, got the win. We'll see where we can go from here as we wait, you know, as we do this podcast now. Niners, Eagles are playing out. So most people listening to this, are you going to know the matchup when we get there? But yeah, the last time the Bears won a playoff game, the last, I wasn't engaged, didn't, didn't have children. This podcast did not exist in this form. It was actually the College Hoops Journal podcast, the last time the Chicago Bears football franchise won a playoff game. So thrilling Saturday night. We can get to the hoops now. I appreciate just starting off the top. And yes, I broke out. I broke out the Bears flag just for this one. I don't if you think I'm reacting because they won the Super Bowl. It's the bears. Okay. Again, 15, 16 years since we actually, actually last got a playoff dub and got it over the filthy, awful Packers. So, yes, I am enthralled, thrilled, giddy as can be, and, and happy to be here with apparently, apparently someone who has run afoul of the law and, and, and might have the authorities chasing after him right now. So it's, it's a, it's a joy to be back with you. But the last time I, I knew you, you were an innocent man. And in everything that's transpired since, I guess, I guess some things.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Have changed. Yeah, I think, you know, Memphis has a crime problem. It's been in the news. It's been in the news a lot. And I was hoping I would be a solution to the problem as opposed to a part of the problem. But it appears I'm a part of the problem because I, I was not arrested, but cited. I was cited on Friday morning. I was live on radio with Jeff Calkins, the very last Jeff Cawkins show on 92.9 FM ESPN. And in the spirit of giving him the best audio quality possible, because you know how important that is to me. Bluetooth doesn't work great on radio, so I was doing one of these. And apparently in, in the city of Memphis now, you can't drive around like this. This is illegal. Keep in mind, I have a Self driving car. I don't even have to touch my steering wheel to drive. But. But I can't be touching my phone, apparently. Keep in mind, like three intersections over there was probably a carjacking, right? Or a shootout or something. But they got me. They got me. My court date's February 13th. I'm gonna try to beat the.
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Josh
Charge, but. Hold on. Okay, hold on. Let's. It's February 13th. A podcast day. Have.
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GP (Gary Parish)
We looked? I.
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Josh
Haven'T looked. February 13th, 2026. What day of the week is that? February 13th is. That's a Friday, my friend. Oh, no, you're gonna have to take that. Bring.
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GP (Gary Parish)
In kb. No, no, no. I'm committed to the. I'm committed to the pod. I'm doing.
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Josh
The podcast. Why did Orlando miss that One Friday show? Guy grew up in Vermont. Skiing is his absolute favorite thing to do that doesn't involve his wife and children. Just gets out once a year. Okay, why did Parish. Why did he miss that other One Friday show this week? Oh, he. He had to go to court because he's a. He's a criminal of the law and they were going to throw him in jail otherwise. Yeah.
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GP (Gary Parish)
I know. I'm gonna do the pod live. I'm gonna do the palma. Take all this equipment with me. Good luck setting again. I'm live from 201 Poplar. I don't know why I can't get a background at 201 poplar. I bet it. I bet it'll be entertaining. 201 popular is a wild place. It's a wild place. I was watching a game last night by myself and I'm a pretty quiet person. Outside of, outside of this setting, I don't say much. You know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. I'm not a real chit. Chatter. And so I was just sitting up there quietly, just enjoying the game. And even I was like, I mean, when he made the one throw, I mean.
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Josh
That'S just. I said it in the moment because I was like, this is the game before the play, the fourth and eight. He throws it off balance, gets it to a dunesday. I was like, if it's. If they don't get it here, it's over.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Trust me. No, but I was yelling. That's what I'm trying to tell you. That's right, J.P. i was yelling. I was yelling with. Filled with excitement. So just a wonderful football game, an all time great comeback by your favorite football team. Congratulations. And don't apologize for being excited I roll my eyes when people do stuff like that. Like, oh, it was only a wild card. Who, man, you know how long, like, you know how long it's been since. And people like Matt Norlander have been able to celebrate what it is they were celebrating last night. Man, have as much fun as you can and then if you're lucky enough to do it again, do.
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Josh
It again. I hear you. Orange and blue gets the win. You know what it's like to try for that. You've had a few seasons and years in your life with your Mets there, so it's the common thread running through this podcast. I gotta be honest. Do we have any other Bears fans that work at CBS Sports? Because it feels like I might. There's like just like half the people that are employed by CBS Sports are Bears fans. But we are reveling. And so, and I mentioned this a few shows back, but for the college hoops fans that live and die with your teams, this is how I see eye to eye with you on this very thing. This is the one team where I'm totally emotionally invested, have been forever. And it was awesome to get that FaceTime from my mom who was. The lights were in bed, lights are, lights were off and she just, you know, she was fading late and she, she made it through the whole game. She's the biggest reason why I'm a Bears fan. So we'll see, we'll see what next weekend brings. But a win feels great. Let's dive, let's dive into the hoops here and tell me where you want to start with this because just again, for full disclosure. Yes. Got in some, some time on some much needed time and a good mid season reset on the slopes. However, the only two, the only two games I saw this weekend were. And only portions of it where I dip in for a quick bite in the, in the Lodge at Mount Snow on Saturday and TVs are in there so you can, you can kind of catch up. And I see a little, little bit of Florida, Tennessee there and I see, well, hot damn, I see Indiana up like 15 points. I'm like, okay, I took the Hoosiers on the Friday show. If you listened on the audio version, I sent in the picks and I took the Hoosiers to win outright on Friday in football and damn if they didn't do that. And I was like, okay, look at the Hoosiers. I love what I'm seeing here. That didn't last. And then I also saw Michigan, Wisconsin, but that was like on the, on the slope thing sometimes technology cheapy. It's incredible because I'm on, I'm on the ski lift and I've got YouTube TV and I've got enough service where I'm watching the final like three minutes of the, of the Wisconsin Michigan game. That was incredible too. Which of the. I figure you want to start one of the two spots. Where do you want to get.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Going here? I think let's start with Nebraska, which is what I believe is the best and biggest story in college basketball right now because it's got a little bit of that Indiana football thing going on. Like, hey, you ain't never really been good at this sport and now you're great at this sport. You know, as Tom Fornelli has pointed out multiple times on on Twitter, like it's a funhouse mirror from the 90s. Indiana is the king of football and Nebraska is great at, at, at. At. Men's basketball. 83 77. That's the final score at Assembly Hall. Nebraska overcomes a 16 point deficit to remain undefeated. The reason I think this is especially interesting, you know there's five undefeated teams left. They're one of them, all that stuff. But they now have five quadrant one wins. Duke is the only team in the country with more. And when we talked about them, perhaps it was on last Sunday's pond, it was like, hey, undefeated. But man, if we still talking about them being undefeated next Sunday, like that's a hell of a week because they got two, you know, not the toughest road games in the Big Ten you can have, but two like legitimate tough task at Ohio State early in the week at Indiana on the weekend. They were underdogs in both of those games and they won them both the second one by coming back from a, a big deficit. So I, I don't know if this is really one of the five best teams in the country, but at some point I felt compelled as I wrote this morning, in the top 25 and one like they're undefeated. Like three other power conference schools, they have five quadrant one wins which is the same amount or more than any other undefeated power conference school. Like I just threw them up there. Right behind Arizona, Iowa State and Vanderbilt, I've got Nebraska at number four in the top 25 and 1. The four Power Conference undefeated teams are 1, 2, 3 and 4. With UConn at five being the highest ranked one loss team in the country. You got.
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Josh
Any issues? No, I think resume wise it's. Well, we're in the ballpark there. Like again, this is my reminder on Paris's behalf because we hit this every single year and I know to a certain point you're screaming at a wall. Just as a reminder for people that are listening or watching the GPS rankings, I'm not, I'm not defending, I'm just clarifying. It's, we have now moved past the halfway point so the resume is more than necessarily the outright team quality. Like personally, Nebraska, Yukon right now, you know, if they meet on a, on a neutral tomorrow, Yukon's going to be, I think a sizable favorite. I mean, Nebraska was what, four and a half point favor, four and a half point dog going into that game to begin with. But you know, the best story in the sport continues a pace regardless of all that, for them to come back the way that they did and I did, you know, since I got home this afternoon, you know, checked in a bit more, just see the highlights, see how it all played out. It was one hell of a way for Fred Hoiberg to get his 100th career win with Nebraska. Extremely, extremely impressive. And it's not just, it's not just that and the fact that they're 5 and 0 in league play. This is the best start in league play for Nebraska since 65, 66. Oh, by the way, when the polls refresh tomorrow and the Cornhuskers bump up even more and get closer in the AP ranking to where they are in GPS here on, on Sunday, that's probably going to either match or exceed the program's best ever in 60. In February of 66, Nebraska got as high as eighth in the AP rankings. We'll see if they can set a new program mark when the polls refresh on Monday. Jamarcus Lawrence going for 27. It's, it's like with each progressing game more and more and more we are seeing why Nebraska needs to be considered a viable national title contender. And I use that phrasing deliberately. I sent out the tweet from Wednesday when Vandy got its win and a very important win. But there's another half to that that we're going to get to before the end of the show with the team that lost that game. I, when you see where Vanderbolts placing the metrics, you see what it's doing. I, I said Vanderbilt national title contender and I do genuinely believe that if Vanderbilt didn't say Vanderbilt, if it wasn't those colors, if it was insert 20 or 30 other teams, I think that they would be considered across the board as a national title contender. I still think some people are fading on that A little bit. And I get all that. But I think right now it's totally fair. Nebraska, by virtue of this win and how it got it and getting another one on the road and doing so by coming back from 16 down in the second half, which again, I, I want to say it's more about Nebraska than Indiana in the specific game gp but I know it takes two to tango in this spot. But we have a, we have a real batch of evidence here with Nebraska that gives me even more confidence that they are very much for real, that they are a viable top 10 team. And to me, in a season like this, if you're a top 10 team, you're a national title contender. Nebraska has won 20 games in a row. 10 of those games. This is also dating back to last season. I know, but most of it has now been this season. Ten of the 20 games for Nebraska have not happened at Pinnacle Bank. I think that is a significant piece of context. Not only that, Nebraska has had five comebacks of 10 plus points down in that winning streak. This team is built to withstand. Overcoming a deficit doesn't mean they'll always do it. Of course they won't. There could very well be a spot or two in the next, in the next three weeks where this bites him. Maybe that also bites him once we get to the big dance in March. But I've got enough here. The three point shooting. They had another really good day on the road. Viable. You having him in the top five doesn't bother me whatsoever. I think with the resume, with what they've done and still having a bagel at this point in the season, it's.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Completely defensible. I, I think if you're, if you want to be skeptical that a team that is 160 on January 11th is a real national title contender for whatever reason. The place to start, we've talked about this before is typically to win the whole thing. Not to make a final four, but to win the whole thing. Like get to the final Four, win two more, you need, you need NBA players. And so the question would be, where are the NBA players on, on that roster? But at this point that's, you're nitpicking like this is a very good college basketball team with very good college basketball players. And just a terrific story. They were picked up 14th, preseason Big Ten media poll 14th, and now they're 160 with five quadrant one wins. And whatever kind of win you want them to have, they've kind of got it. Okay. Have they beaten anybody good on the road? How about Illinois, you know, top 20 team, won that game on the road, then beat Ohio State on the road, then beat Indiana on the road. Okay, but any other great teams they beat? How about Michigan State at home? Then they beat the Wisconsin team that just knocked out Michigan. So there's like quality there in the resume. Next up for them, they got four straight games against unranked teams. It's Oregon, Northwestern, Washington, Minnesota. Then on January 27th, that's their next game against the currently ranked team. It'll be game 21 of the season at Michigan. But you know, I think most people know at this point at least most people who listen to college basketball podcast like this is literally the one program in a power conference that has never won a game any NCAA tournament. So the big question you get like we did it on Inside College Basketball Tuesday night in studio. It's like, will Nebraska win a game in the tournament for the first time ever this season? And I think the answer is yes. And I think the answer is yes, because they're gonna like right now they're gonna be a two or three seed. Like if it, if they were priced placed in a bracket right now, they'd be a two or three seed. And when you are seated that way, unless you messing around with St. Peter's or Jack Golke, you are supposed to advance. And so yes, this is setting up nicely. Fred Hoiberg, it appears, is just a couple of months away from making history.
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Josh
At Nebraska. And now by virtue of this, remaining undefeated in the Big Ten. Purdue was also undefeated in the Big Ten. We'll get to the Boilermakers in just a few here, but Nebraska and Michigan, you know, 1A, 1B for I think most notable results in the league this weekend, you want to get to the most shock. Is it the most shocking one of the season? Damn near feels.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Like it. From a point spread perspective, it has to be up there pretty good. When we started this weekend, as you know, we had six undefeated teams. Now we only got five. That's because Michigan lost at home to Wisconsin on Saturday after closing as an 18 and a half point favorite. We'll dive into that one next. First though, let's get our first word from.
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Josh
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GP (Gary Parish)
And fees. Final score, Wisconsin 91. Number two, Michigan 88 on America's most watched network, the network of stars. Dusty Mays. Wolverines closed as 18 and a half point favorites. They were undefeated. Now they're a one loss team. Norlander, on a scale of one to people were so silly they thought the house settlement would fix college athletics. How surprised were you to hear out on the slopes that Michigan just lost at home? 2A. I don't know, up and down. Let's call them up and down.
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Josh
Wisconsin team. Yeah. But a Wisconsin team that is maybe looking to, to really be going up, up here with quickness. We'll see. They got the win over UCLA last week and then they go and get this done. Winning by three on the road. I was flagged to this because, you know, wearing the Apple watch and all that kind of stuff, keeping, keeping track of the heartbeat as, as one does. But when I get text, obviously it buses on the wrist. So suddenly I start feeling a bunch coming through and it is one. It's my youngest brother Cody just texting me like, I can't believe you're missing this or whatever. I'm like, all right, all right, let me get, let me get down this black and then I'll bring it up. And so I did bring it up and I had the volume on and fortunately I took one that like the lift was going up. So it's like genuinely eight minutes up the hill. And so I was listening but trying to be respectful. And so I didn't have it too loud, but one of the people in the, in the chair next to me goes, who's that? And I go, I think that's Robbie Hummel. I was like, I'm watching this game so Robbie and, and Raph on the call and I just, I kind of bring it up and I'm like, is Michigan actually gonna lose this game? Are they going like they're gonna at home? I remember when I did that, when I sent in the audio pic, I was like, G.P. said, this is 19 at home. And I know they just had a tough game, but I was buying on the idea that it was going to be a strong bounce back, back on the home floor again. Wisconsin, as you said, up and down. Fairly, fairly shocking outcome. I think significant enough for Wisconsin that it can truly alter the trajectory of, of its season to, to catapult this team into the NCAA tournament in March. We'll see if it gets there. This is, this is more than a seed line bump. This is an in the field kind of bump. If you looked at what was lacking on Wisconsin's resume up to this point, that was major and majorly significant. Although I will say this going into this matchup. Wisconsin was.03 versus ranked opponents this season and lost by an average of 25 points in those matchups. Michigan as the number two team period outside the context of the season. 410 all time at home when it was a top two team against an unranked opponent, which Wisconsin was the first time ever Michigan has had a one or two next to its name, played in its home venue and lost to an unranked opponent. And a period 47 and two as a, as a top two team at home at all. So this almost never happens. Greg Guard has made a habit of doing this. This is the kind of thing where this would have been very helpful information if I was aware of it before we made the picks. So Greg Garden out has nine top five wins since he became the coach in December of 2015. That's the most for any school, let alone any coach there's any School. Wisconsin's nine top five wins since the 25th of December of 2015 is the most of any Big Ten school. And Greg Gardas had six top ten wins on the road period. Major, majorly impressive. Wisconsin down early in this game. 31:17, 14 point deficit. John Blackwell, very, very good player. He gets to win. And I know this was obviously mentioned plenty on the broadcast but Nick Boyd, former player for Dusty May, he goes and has himself a heck of a game. 22.6 assists, zero turnovers. And I thought one of the key things kind of going back through this game and seeing how it played out and reading some stuff on it was Michigan was the number 12 point percentage defense going into the game just allowed people or didn't allow people to hit shots inside the three point line at a better success rate than any school in the country. 38.7% was the mark in this game. Wisconsin 56 from 2. But that was a very, very big key. Congrats to Bucky on a big win. Michigan still narrowly number one at Ken Palm. I am tending gpi. I tend to lean toward. This isn't a harbinger of a, of a, of a swoon to come for the Wolverines but it is the result that for good, not just switches up, you know, your rankings and all that stuff. It is the result that brings Michigan all the way back down to earth. And now they are eye level with every Arizona, Purdue, Iowa State, Gonzaga, Illinois, Yukon, Duke, Houston, byu, go on down the list for a good month. Plus Michigan was looking down at those teams in those days, at least for the foreseeable future.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Are over. Yeah, it like grand scheme of things, not the biggest deal in the world. They'll be fine. But I mean your resume does change pretty dramatically. You know, you're 140 with all of the best computer numbers. Now you're 141 with a quadrant two loss. It's quadrant two loss. Yeah, I didn't realize this until I looked it up. I assumed something like this would be true, but I confirmed it. Michigan is now Michigan goes from the the topic King palm, top of the net, top of everything. Now Michigan is the only team in the top 14 of the net with a loss outside of quadrant one. So I'm, I slid them down pretty significantly, like below all the undefeated teams. And then I've got them, you know, below one loss Yukon, I've got one loss Yukon at five, one loss BYU at six, one loss Purdue at seven, then one lost Michigan at eight followed by one loss Gonzaga, which Michigan has a win over. Like there's a lot of awesome 1 loss teams on January 11th, UConn, BYU, Purdue, Michigan, Gonzaga, Duke, Houston, all title contenders, undeniably 1 lost teams on January 11th. So I slid Michigan down a little bit. But again, if you're trying to explain it, you just point to there's no other team up here that's got a loss outside of quadrant one. They're the only one, they'll be fine. But yeah, they couldn't get any stops on Saturday. Inside the ark it was, what'd you say, 52%? Wisconsin shot 56. Okay. From three it was 45%. So they couldn't get anything, any resistance inside the arc. And then Wisconsin bombed them, 15 of 33 from three. So now Wisconsin's one two straight back into the top 40 at Kinpom. Next up for them is at Minnesota, which you know is like whatever, but they got, they beat some.
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Josh
People, not whatever they can get picked off. And I haven't looked at it, but if you told me that was, you know, projected to be Minnesota by one or two, I'd believe you. I don't know what it is though. Minnesota's done.
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GP (Gary Parish)
All right. Yeah, they've beaten Indiana and Iowa. Next up for Michigan at Washington on Wednesday and then it's at Oregon on Sunday. So one of those west coast trips, I imagine. The Wolverines this time next week are 16 and 1, but we'll see. You want to get to the weekend? Whip.
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Josh
Around next? Let's do it. I love this every year. Josh, we're from our partners and then I'll explain why I love this specific segment every.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Discount Furniture. What do you love so.
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Josh
Much Because I, I love, I love the sport. I follow it literally daily from start to finish every season, with the exception every January of essentially three days. And so when you actually remove yourself from the, from the day to day grind of it and you just, you bring up the CBS Sports app, genuinely the best sports app that exists out there, and you're just kind of scrolling through the, scrolling through the scores and you're lacking any kind. Things can really just pop. You know, I'm almost like I'm looking at with fresh eyes and so tell me where you want to start. But there's a few results here from Saturday that definitely made me tilt my head and further investigate. And I like to come to this with your context, your appreciation, your eyes and your analysis because I know you were way more dialed in on Saturday than I.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Could be. Yeah, I mean, I was just here at the house all day in the office, screens on. It was a fun day and night of basketball. I always, if I, I'm confident nobody cares. But let me tell you anyway, I try to pick the most interesting, best thing, biggest thing to talk about at the top on a Sunday show. Then, you know, next best thing right there. And then with the whip around, I'm really just trying to group it in a way that makes sense to me. So like, hey, we've been in the Big Ten. Let's start with the Big Ten, let's run through the Big Ten, then we'll get to the Big 12. So if you're ever confused by the order. I'm not necessarily trying to talk about all these things in the order of importance as much as in an order that makes sense in my weird head. So let's, let's stick in the Big Ten.
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Josh
For now. I think, I think this should be the approach you use in the courtroom, by the way, on February 13th. I think that's going to be a.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Winning strategy. Here's my, here's the way I'm going to. First off, I'm.
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Josh
Going to. You can't tell me this doesn't make sense. I can do this in my car. I can't do this in my car and hold a phone up. Which, by the way, that's. I don't. You're like, this is now illegal in Memphis, dude. You haven't been able to hold a phone in a car where I live and not get a ticket for 20 years. Like, this is not, this is not something new. But I understand the argument and I'm eager for you.
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GP (Gary Parish)
To make. I was trying to get good Audio for Jeff Caulkins. Because you know how much I care about perfect audio. You've been doing a podcast with me for years. You know how much I care about. You know how much I much effort I put into making sure the audio is perfect every show. And so this is just better for radio. And so this is my argument. I'm a walk right in front of the judge and he's going to say, how do you plead? And I'm gonna say, not guilty, your honor. I don't even know if that's how it works, but this is the way I imagine. And he's gonna say, then defend yourself. And I'm gonna say, your honor, I have a self driving car. Are you really going to make me pay a fine? Do you understand this is totally legal for me? I could do this. I could get in my car, in my driveway, hit one button and go like this and drive to work like this. My hand's not on the wheel and I'm not even looking at anything. I could drive like this, totally legally. But this.
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Josh
Is.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Illegal. Yep. I rest my case. I think that. I think at that point I just rest.
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Josh
My case. I think, I think that's exactly what you do. You rest that case and see how that case rests.
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GP (Gary Parish)
For you. I say, your honor, look at me. This. How is this legal to drop like this? But this is illegal. At least this way I've got my eyes out looking out the window. This way.
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Josh
I'm blind. And you're going to represent yourself, right? You're not going to hire. You're not. You're not hiring an attorney.
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GP (Gary Parish)
For this. If I'm being completely honest, I have a friend who's an attorney who I will probably call and ask him to handle this. If I'm being completely honest, none of the shit I've been saying is true. What I'm about to. What I will really do is text my friend who's an attorney, and I'll say, hey, man, can you handle this for me? And he'll say, yes, sure, GP no problem. And then I'll send him a gift card to a restaurant. That's the way it works. That's the way this will.
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Josh
Probably go. Okay, where are we starting in.
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GP (Gary Parish)
The big. I want to stay in the big ten and I want to give credit where credit.
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Josh
Is.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Due. Okay. Purdue is now 15, 1.93.85 win over Penn State. Braden Smith got 26 points, 14 assist. So if you keep watch. So if you're keeping track. So since I said last Tuesday, since I suggested last Tuesday that maybe, just maybe Bennett Sturts would be a better, a better first team All American option than Braden Smith. Since I, since I said that out loud into my aunt. Since I said that on TV Tuesday, Bennett Sturts has lost to Minnesota and Illinois and Braden Smith has turned in a 26.14 assist effort in a win over Penn State. Norlander, let's, hey, let's see how things shake out over the next couple of months. But undeniably this past week it is Braden Smith over.
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Josh
Bennett Sturts. Yeah. Braden Smith said stop disrespecting me.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Bro. Yeah. Hey, listen man, that's fair. I don't, I don't enjoy criticism, but I can't accept it when it's fair. That's fair.
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Josh
That's fair. Smith is now in the top 15 on the all time NCAA career assist listless. He's going to be in the top 10 before we get out of January, folks. I wrote about that in last week's quarter court report. Go find it if you haven't read it yet. Averaging 18.8 points, 10.6 assists and two point steals per game in Big Ten play while shooting 58 from the field and 50 from three. Now it's a small sample size I understand, but he really turned it on. You know, I know this was a, was a road game. Penn State was able to keep it relatively in striking distance, but an impressive game nonetheless. And if he keeps doing this, I mean this earnestly, if Purdue is, you know, you got to figure it's going to get picked off here and there. But if Purdue is going to move into where it was expected to be in the preseason and that is the best team in the Big Ten, we'll see. We might have one hell of a league race developing here, but if that does happen, let's just say if Purdue is in position to potentially get a 1 seed when we start the Big Ten tournament, which is a reasonable position to forecast right now, and Braden Smith is averaging well north of 10 assist a game in addition to, you know, bumping his scoring average up to 16, 17 a game, he is going to threaten every other player for national player of the year. I say that knowing right now it is not his. He's not in second place and he's probably not in third place. But that's getting close. We'll see what comes of it. And I think it's awesome because he is a way different player. The Nature debancer who I think was triple team for like half the game against Utah I still got 20 anyway on the road. And he's nothing like Cameron Boozer. And it's all. It's a great thing for college basketball that when there's even more the axle go on down the list. Joshua Jefferson. All these players play differently and they've all got really great cases for first team All American status, obviously, but national player of the year. Good on Braden Smith. Good on Purdue. I might have heard from someone at Purdue that might have texted me. The person will remain nameless, the text said. Hold on. I'm really hoping you'll ash Parrish if you saw Braden Smith's stat.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Line today. I saw it. I. I saw it. I mean, I put it right here in my notes. Yeah, I saw it. Oh, no. We now reach the point. This happens sometimes. We now reach the point where Braden Smith has good games and people think of me. They want to tell me.
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Josh
Once claimed to be 57% boilermaker. You did it it.
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GP (Gary Parish)
To yourself. Well, it also shows you, like, how quickly they'll turn.
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Josh
On you.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Oh, yeah. And.
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Josh
We won. I know. I once called Produce fan base, like one of the three nicest ones that.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Exist online. They. They are. But, I mean, they've been calling me short and fat and bald a lot lately. They've been short.
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Josh
And fat. Have they stooped the genitalia yet, or are we still clear.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Of that? I mean, do I get called a penis on online all.
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Josh
The time? Yeah, I'm saying specifically from Purdue. Have they gone.
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GP (Gary Parish)
That far? I cannot stand here and tell you with any degree of certainty whether a Purdue fan has called me a penis. But somebody has. It happens all.
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Josh
The time. Again, you're just not getting another college basketball show with that kind.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Of somebody. Somebody actually made a graphic where it is like, I am. I am actually a penis. And so. So we. So we.
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Josh
Had fun. I'm not gonna ask you to put it on screen without GP's consent and all that, but I need. I actually need.
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GP (Gary Parish)
To see. So my. My little guys got a hold of it and they wanted to get T shirts, but my. I think my wife vetoed that. But they wanted to. They thought that was really good. So whoever. Whatever. Whatever enemy of the top 25 and one who made an actual graphic of me as a penis, my kids got a good chuckle.
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Josh
At us. Send this to me. I need to see it. We've been waiting. I'm not kidding. Five, eight years too late for merch. Maybe that needs.
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GP (Gary Parish)
To be. Let me see if I can find it.
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Josh
Real quick. Let me see if that can be the merch. Okay, I'll continue. I saw some of this one riding home today.
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GP (Gary Parish)
From. From. Well, hold on.
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Josh
With Purdue.
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GP (Gary Parish)
I wanted. I did want to update you on the Braden Smith assist.
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Josh
Record.
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GP (Gary Parish)
March. Sure. Now averaging 14.1 points. This is just something I like. I mean I'm enjoying now. I like, I like keeping track. 14.1 points, 9.8 assists. So he's now got. That's what he's averaging. Career assist are now 9 14. That puts him 162 short of Bobby Hurley's all time record. He's on pace. At this pace he would need 17 more games. Purdue's got 15 more in the regular season. In this moment on January 11th, Braden Smith is on pace to break the all time assist record. Division one men's basketball in the Big.
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Josh
Ten tournament. Yep, he's gonna do it. Other other Big Ten result. I think this is the other truly notable one. Then we can get to other leagues which is Illinois getting the win 7569 at Iowa. Illinois has won 10 of its last 11 in this series, which is surprising. And this was the first time ever that Illinois played against Iowa in Iowa City. Both teams being ranked in Illinois actually won the game. It was previously 0 and 8 in those kind of circumstances. Illinois on this. I think in the context of this pod, Illinois fans that listen shouts to Tom Fornelli, fellow Bears fan, know that we have been giving the Illini consistently a lot of praise for their potential to be a national championship contender. Certainly a Final Four contender. You saw it again here. I was still trying to figure some stuff out. It is like search is a very, very good player. They're going to need more help around him. We'll see if McCollum can get it going second half of the season and they can navigate their way here or we'll see if the bumps come. I don't know on Iowa, but For Illinois, keep Mogular. 19 points in this one. 16 of the 19 were in the second half. He had five boards, four assists, hit four triples. Tremendous player and. And he's not underrated by Illinois fans, but I think nationally he's probably the biggest gap between how good he actually is and the amount of discussion and copy that he gets. And I expect that that gap to change here as we move along in January. But then Boswell had 17 including three steals. Stojakovic had 17. Five boards, two steals. And then even Merkavich wasn't a big player from the floor in this one. Had 12 boards and five dimes. They, they have the pieces. Illinois has the pieces to beat just about anyone on any given night if they do what they know that they're, they're capable of. It's not a perfect team. They're going to take some more losses. But Underwood's had a few of these teams over the past six or seven years where I'm, I get very intrigued with the, with the talent that he has there. And I, I think Illinois has a case, a true case in terms of overall quality as a top 10 team in the country. Nice win here.
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GP (Gary Parish)
On Sunday. Okay, update on a couple of things. I have sent. I have sent Josh the penis picture, which is a dangerous thing to say out loud. That's, I.
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Josh
Take that. Oh my, oh.
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GP (Gary Parish)
My God. That sounds like, that sounds like.
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Josh
A definite. I, I, I, I, I, I immediately regret this. I did not realize just how I, I don't think we can put this on our week. This cannot be put on the show. It must. And I, and I have too much love and respect for you to put that in the no context. I am so disturbed by the Photoshop of this. This is completely inappropriate. Extremely graphic. And I will never unsee this image. What is wrong with me? Why did I ask for that? I thought it was like going to be some Ms. Paint, you know, third rate half ass effort. No. This took time.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Real.
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Josh
Hatred. Yeah. Emotion and undying fuel to live in your.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Head.
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Josh
Forever. Yeah. That is. I.
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GP (Gary Parish)
I'm frightened. So, no, no pressure because I don't know what's allowed. What's not allowed. You have my permission to use it in the no context if you want. I am.
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Josh
Not embarrassed. I am not putting, I am not having that image associated with my Twitter feed. That is not going.
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GP (Gary Parish)
To happen. Just, just. This is how angry people do get about these stupid rankings every day. Like that. That is a, that is because of where I ranked a basketball. This.
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Josh
Is outrageous. You look, you look like a penis head. You really do. It's all. It almost looks like the top of it could be like what they think a dinosaur used to look like 75 million years ago. This is the most disturbing thing I've seen in 2026. At least sports.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Related, man. The top 25 and 1 gets people mad. The reason I started chuckling a minute ago while you were talking. I'm literally just.
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Josh
Sitting.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Here. Okay. I'm not.
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Josh
Doing anything.
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GP (Gary Parish)
All right. I ranked 26 basketball teams this morning. And then I'd like just. I've mostly been prepping for this the rest of the day. I've got the iPad here. I've got Twitter up on it. And just randomly. 21 seconds, you know, a couple minutes ago, this is. This is what somebody decided they needed to tell me. Foreign. You're a special kind of dumb f, Gary. You are. You're. You are a stupid f. They're just unloading on me on a Sunday afternoon. I don't even know what I did like, but that is my life. I just get called things all day long. It's tough, man. It's tough. But I'm gonna be all right. Hey, enough about me. I got an issue with this Bennett.
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Josh
Sturts guy. He might as well be Rick Patino to you at this point.
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GP (Gary Parish)
I think. I mean, those are.
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Josh
My ops. Maybe you should be raking Photoshops about.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Those guys. Yeah, wait till I turn Bennett Sturts into a penis. Hey. Hey, buddy. Go five of 17 one more time. Go five or 17 one more time. I will hire a graphic designer to get this done, okay? I damaged my relationship with Purdue fans over this. I got Purdue fans all mad at me because of you. Go 5 of 17 one more time. Bennett Sturts. You will have a graphic mate. Oh, the past. The past two games since I suggested Bennett Sturts might be a better first team all American option than Braden Smith. Bennett sturts is shooting 32.4 from the field and 22.2%.
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Josh
From three. It's. Listen, it's January 11th. When we get to the year in review show in December, I'm going to have forgotten about this. Someone please remind me of the past six minutes on this podcast so we can circle back. I mean, you.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Chose poorly. It looks like it. I mean, between Rick Patino and Bennett Sturts, man, those are my ops. Those are my ops. Hey, I got a question for you about keeping Waggler. Can I ask you about.
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Josh
King Wagler? Yeah. If you're gonna ask me how he got out of Kansas, I don't have the answer.
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GP (Gary Parish)
For you. No, I. I have a serious question. Okay. That we could probably get research to look it up. Keaton Wagner. He had 19 points, five rebounds, four assists in this game. He is Illinois's leading scorer. He is a freshman who was.
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Josh
Ranked.
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GP (Gary Parish)
150Th. Yeah. In the class of 2025. When is the last time a top 20 power conference team, a top 10 Ken Palm team, was led by a freshman ranked 150th or worse? This.
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Josh
Is crazy. I'd even expand that. Give me the last time. Yeah. Last time a ranked team had a freshman leading its team in scoring by mid January. And the freshman was a top.
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GP (Gary Parish)
100 recruit. Somebody says Braden Smith, it might really be Braden. I don't think Braden Smith led them in scoring. That would have been because.
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Josh
He was like, you know, he was really good immediately. But yeah, if he did.
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GP (Gary Parish)
I'm completely. It would have been perfect if it was Braden's fit. But I don't believe it.
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Josh
Was Brad. I mean, Zach Edie was on the team, so that wasn't the case. But no, he's, he's awesome. And Illinois's got a lot, a lot cooking there. No doubt about it. Let's, let's, let's keep it moving here. Let's go to the Big 12 GP. Can we save the most notable one for last and just kind of tour through everything else because Iowa State wins against Oklahoma State, Arizona got a listen. Arizona took care of its, of its business on the road at TCU. 13 point win. And that is notable on a day where Michigan can't get it done against unranked team at home. So we can give, you know, speaking of bear down, good on Tommy Lloyd's guys for getting that done. Houston had no issue on the road against Baylor and I mean none. And Kelvin Sampson has owned Scott Drew. I think he only has one loss ever against Scottish. So they got it done there. And then I mentioned the byu. It's a road game. It's a hotly contested rivalry. It was close, but BYU got it done there. Anything on those before we get to which what I think is by far the biggest result in.
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GP (Gary Parish)
That league? No, just take it where you want to.
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Josh
Take it. Okay, so I didn't see any of the game. West Virginia beats Kansas 86.75. What I do know is that Kansas is now 1 in 7 in the last 8 times it's had to play a road game in the Big 12. Okay. And West Virginia. And if you're a West Virginia fan, this is the kind of thing that's at the front of mind if you're following the hoops team on a, on a game by game basis has won three in a row against Kansas. And you know, look at both of those programs and what they've been over the past 20, 30, 40 years. And you know, you can only dream of having a chance to beat Kansas three times in a row. Well, it actually has happened. I know Darcy, Darren Peterson played and for the most part had another really good game. But fill me in, treat me like I'm a listener because I am here. What, what were your thoughts Impressions of the game and how did it.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Play out? They just never got going. They were just sort of behind. Could, could it just. It felt like they were going to lose the game. Most of the game Peterson played wasn't efficient, but you know, he had some moments. He got 23 points, but it was 6 of 17 from the field. It sets up where, because like on one hand it's, it's a, it's a road loss in the Big 12, like those happen. On the other hand, this Kansas team is now projected to finish tied for sixth in the Big 12. I mean, we went through two decades where they finished first, almost without exception. And if they weren't first, they were second. And this is at least on track right now to be a third straight underwhelming season. Not disasters, not like they're going to miss the NCAA tournament or at least it doesn't feel that way, but they're just not special for the third straight year. And that is something that seemed unimaginable under Bill Self not too long ago. The projected record right now in the Big 12 for them is 9 and 9. And so if KU does go 9 and 9, let's just say that's it. Yeah, they will have completed a three year span the past three years. This one and the two previous ones going 30 and 26 in Big 12 games. And that is not like that should maybe be the Big 12 record over a three year span at Kansas State. All due respect, it shouldn't be the record at Kansas. And it's on track to be that. And I can't really pinpoint exactly what has happened there other than obviously Bill's health has been a thing. There's been major changes in the sport that could have impacted the Kansas program. There's been some staff stuff there. You know, Norm's not on the staff anymore. I don't know that it's any one thing, but like that program is not operating the way it seemed to be on cruise control for decades. And if I were a KU fan, that would concern me on.
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Josh
Some level. Yes, now it is on the road. They lost obviously against UCF to start the season and they needed overtime against TCU to even win at home. So Kansas fans watching the show, listening, if you are now right back in that mode that you've been in for most of the past two seasons where you're like, this isn't the program that we've been used to again, I'm going to repeat this every time it comes up because it is worth noting from A winning perspective. Kansas has objectively operated on a different level, at a different standard than every other program in the sport since Bill Self arrived in Lawrence. Objectively true. And now there has been a macro regression to the mean. That can be very hard to get used to, obviously. And we're looking ahead to the games here in just a few. But they got a big one coming. Like, a big one coming.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Up, I think, I think, I think really big just to sort of, hey, are you still Kansas.
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Josh
Or not? Right? I, I think I would agree with that. Yeah, I, I would agree if you are. And understand that coaching staff gets paid to win. Those players get paid to win, too. So, you know, just because you got Kansas across the jersey doesn't mean it's gonna happen. But how do you rebound, rebound and respond to that big one? And I, I would think almost definitely. I mean, it's, it's pretty awesome Tuesday night in the sport, but the KU result will either be the first or second thing we talk about on the show on Wednesday morning. That's a, that's a biggie there. West Virginia's not gonna be in the tournament. Like, they get, they get taken out on. It can be tough in leaplay. Like, I don't discount that. But still, there's enough here where you're like, okay, what do we have here? And then for those that are listening to the segment and are thinking, yeah, for a long time you weren't able to play pay players and now you can't admit. And there's times in a lot of this on the SEC football side as well. And I get all that. I'm not even going to discount that. That's not a factor. I personally just don't find that to be a factor that is contributing to say, 75 plus percent of what's happening here with Kansas. It can be some of it, if you want to say that. But I think there's more stuff, I think it actually has more nuance than.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Just that. Yeah. And like, let's not lose track of the biggest story connected to this specific team. Forget last season's team, team before that. They, they barely had their best player, like, at all. And when, when, when they have had him, he's been in and out of the lineup, in and out of games, can't finish some games. Bill, I guess it was after the UCF game, said, we have no idea how to play with him and he has no idea how to play with his teammates. And I, I guess if you just like circle back to that comment and Accept it as fact. Midweek, you know, is that when a coach describes a team that way, is that the type of team that goes on the road and beats maybe not one of the best Big 12 teams, but still a Big 12 team and, you know, an arena that's. It's a building that's been trusted before. So, you know, Bill has sort of told us midweek. I mean, the quote was, he can't play with his teammates and his teammates don't know how to play with him. Well, that's a basketball problem. So it seems unlikely that they were going to figure that out before Saturday. But if they don't figure it out before Tuesday, they'll lose again. Because Iowa State, like, is rocking and rolling and, you know, can. Allen Fieldhouse is a special place, but so is Mackie arena, and they went there and had no problems whatsoever. So I, for me, biggest game on the schedule over the next couple of nights. Because if Kansas loses, that's three straight, including a big national television loss on a, you know, at home. Yeah, that's when people start. That's where more people than you and I start asking bigger questions about, hey, what happened there? Yeah, I know those. That's been whispered throughout the sport. It'll get real loud if you lose another one to Iowa State.
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Josh
On Tuesday. All right, where do you want to.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Go Next? That's Houston 77, Baylor 55, five. Cougars get in double figures. Amanda Sharp, 17 points. Joe Tugler, 12 points, 11 rebounds. Back to back double doubles for him. Kingston Fleming's got 10. Didn't realize this was a thing until I just started looking at it. Houston, so wins at Baylor. That's two road wins this season. Cougars went 10 and oh, on the road last season. They haven't lost a road game since February 3rd, 2024. I think it's like maybe four. 16 straight. Yeah, 16 straight wins on the road. Haven't lost a road game since February 3, 2024. I don't know what it means other than like, they've been awesome consistently for three years in a row. And that's the type of thing that can happen when you're awesome consistently for three years in a row, but still, like 16 straight road games, road wins. That's a. That's an.
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Josh
Unusual thing. Yeah, no, that's very impressive. I'll be stunned if it can continue even a month from now. But that's Kelvin Sampson's program, and this is just kind of what they do. Surprised by the margin there by Baylor. I actually thought they'd keep it more competitive but they just don't, they, they truly don't have the physicality and toughness level to, to match up with Houston at.
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GP (Gary Parish)
This point. Number nine, BYU989, Utah 84. This was a big prime time game Saturday night, late.
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Josh
Fun game. This happened as the Bears game was happening so I was unable to, to follow along when it was.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Going down. I had them both on and great crowd, rivalry games sold out. And then byu, you know, their stars were stars. Richie Saunders, Robert Wright, A.J. deBonsa combined for 60 points. Saunders had 24 points, 17 rebounds. DeBonsa got 20 and now that is nine straight 20 point games for him. Nine straight 20 point games. That is the second most in a row for a Big 12 freshman in.
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Josh
Conference history. Trivia Duran.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Or Beastly? Trivia time. It's a.
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Josh
Trivia time. I will.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Say Beastly.
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Josh
Incorrect answer. Okay. Was it.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Buzzer Durant?
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Josh
Incorrect answer. Give it.
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GP (Gary Parish)
To me. The record holder for most consecutive 20 point games by a freshman in the Big 12. He did it 18 times in a row in his one and only season of college basketball. He was just traded to the Washington Wizards.
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Josh
Last week. Very young.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Come on. Former Oklahoma star Trey Young. Oklahoma, now in the SEC, of course, but it was in the Big 12 and Trey Young played there. And I went back and looked at his game log from.
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Josh
That season. Yeah.
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GP (Gary Parish)
It'S outrageous. It is outrageous. He wasn't just, he wasn't just going 21, 22, 22, 21. It was like 42. Yeah, I mean he was like getting into.
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Josh
The 40s. Yeah, we did, we used to do the, the Trey Young over under game every Friday show. Basically it got to that point and it got to that point where ESPN was cutting into other games with Trey Young stuff. I remember that being a little bit of thing people push back on, but he was crazy good. Unfortunately. It was a good team, but it did not translate to having like a final four contender levels kind of team. But his numbers were, were.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Bonkers. Yes. Yeah, man. If, if he, if he, if the Hawks would have had that version Trey Young, they'd have never let him go.
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Josh
I guess. But he was also. He's been a relatively damn good player, but he's no longer the best on the Hawks. We don't need to have NBA corner here on.
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GP (Gary Parish)
The show. Four time NBA all.
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Josh
Star Trey. Yeah. And, and forever linked with, with Luca Doncha trade on draft day. And one guy goes. One guy. And then guess what? Neither those players are going to end up playing for their, you know, they're not on those teams anymore because that's the NBA and how it works for the.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Most part. Next up for BYU Wednesday at home against TCU. You want to go to.
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Josh
The SEC? Let's do it. Vandy stays undefeated. Right? They beat LSU. Not, not too much.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Difficulty there. 8473 so vanity now 16 oh that is tied for the best start in school history. So if they can win at Texas on Wednesday. 17 oh best start in school history. Tyler Tanner 20.3 steals. Tyler Nickel 19 points, 10 rebounds. Dan Walking Yahoo column has asked the question on Twitter. Has a basketball team ever been led by two.
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Josh
Tylers before? Good question. I don't know. Are they really led by two though? Because Duke Miles is in there.
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GP (Gary Parish)
As well. Nicholas two Tyler two Tyler's.
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Josh
In a Duke, two Tyler's and a Duke. I know that's never.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Happened before. I think more likely, I think sports team most likely to be led by two Tanner, two Tylers. That's a.
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Josh
Baseball team. Yeah. That's a good.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Call. Yeah. I spent my summers youth baseball. I can just.
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Josh
Tell.
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GP (Gary Parish)
You. Yeah. You ain't never seen an eight year old baseball team. Didn't have a Nash.
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Josh
On.
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GP (Gary Parish)
It. Okay. Every eight year, every eight year old baseball team in the south they got, they got one or.
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Josh
Two Nashes. What's, what's a soccer team? What's the most common name to lead a soccer team do.
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GP (Gary Parish)
We think? It feels like answering these questions could get you in.
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Josh
Real trouble. I mean you can just say Eric, I think.
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GP (Gary Parish)
You'Re fine. Okay, I'm gonna go with Eric then. I'm gonna go with Eric. Eric is my.
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Josh
Final answer. There you go. Vanderbilt undefeated in men's and.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Women'S because I had a whole bunch of answers running around my head and I was like man, if I say that they gonna come at me on Twitter. I'll just go.
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Josh
With Aaron. They're doing it either way. Shouts to Vandy. Men's and women's hoops still yet to take a loss. And they're keep this up. You're really getting into territory here where few if any schools and men's and women's have gone this deep into a season without a loss. YouTube poll right now has what's the most meaningful result of the season. And, and the Michigan one is, is coming in, you know, by far the most. 80. I actually would disagree. I think it's, I think it's Texas over Alabama. I think that's the most meaningful result. Like don't get me wrong, that's A loud result for Michigan lose at home to an unranked Wisconsin team. But Sean Miller gets a win on the road. Well done. But by, by nature of what we just talked about, Vandy winning in Alabama losing and we'll see who else comes up on Vandy's heels or not. Vandy is like by far right now the best team in the SEC and the team to beat in the pole position. Alabama is 1 and 2 in the league. Lost at Vandy 96.90 on Wednesday and then got beat 92.88 at home against Texas. Jordan Pope had 28 points in this one. Texas hadn't even played a game because they just became league mates. They didn't even play the game in, in, in Tuscaloosa and like 55, 56 years, they own this. They own this game. They, they led for the majority of it. They killed Alabama on the boards. They didn't turn it over. They hit 10 threes from deep. They shot well from beyond the arc. So credit to Texas and maybe this is the kind of maybe Wisconsin and Texas both picked up key wins on the road this weekend. And we're going to flash forward seven, eight weeks and hey, those teams are both comfortably in the tournament. Doing well for themselves. Could well be the case. We'll see. The bigger story is Alabama. This is a team that going into the season was considered as likely, if not more likely than anyone with the exception of Florida, to be the SEC champion. Some would have, some even built the case that Olivia would be the more likely sec champion. Well, NATO, it's. His team is 11 and five. It's got a win at St. John's it's at St. John's but not as good as we thought it was in the moment. Has defeated Illinois. That's a win that continues to age well. Has defeated Clemson in Tuscaloosa. Quality enough there and then it beat Kentucky. But even that one is like, it's not nothing but we'll see. I, I don't know what to make of Alabama at this point. It's, it's, it's a fun team to watch. Always can put the ball in the hoop. But NATO has an as an issue again, just like last season and really two seasons ago when they, they actually wound up making the Final Four where the defense is not reliable whatsoever. Tell me what I need to know about.
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GP (Gary Parish)
The game. So it was a one possession game in the final minute and Aiden Holloway got inside the arc and it got his shot blocked and that was a important moment where it's like, okay, if Alabama is going to do something, they got to do it here. Shot block, we're going the other way. And so then you get the, the result that you get. This was not nearly as surprising from a point spread perspective as what happened in Ann Arbor. But Alabama was 11 and a half point favorite and, and Texas was struggling. Like you mentioned, they had lost two straight. And I think it was earlier in the week, Sean Miller had sort of gone viral in the, with the press conference. Did you see that moment?
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Josh
His moment. But someone mentioned the chat. They called his kids toddlers. And I still never got.
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GP (Gary Parish)
The context. He said something along the lines of. And I'm paraphrasing here to be clear, but it was something along the lines of like, listen, I'm, I'm the coach. I'm responsible for everything. Like all of this falls on me. You know, he did that thing, but he's like, you know, you think of it with your kids. Like if your kids run out in the road, like, ultimately I'm the parent, but like, if I've told you a thousand times, don't run out in the road, why are you running out in the road again? Like, at what point do I throw my hands in the air and be like, I've told you a million times, don't do that. Why are you doing that? And like as the father of a 12 year old and 8, 9 year old, I just said that's a, that, that, that resonates with me. Like, I don't know if you've got perfect children or not, of.
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Josh
Course, but nor are we perfect parents.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Of course, but my, mine are not perfect. They're great, but they're not perfect. And it is incredible how many times you have to tell a young person the same thing over and over again. Like something as simple as brush your teeth, use soap, you know, like, hey, did you use soap? Like Bill cosby in the 80s had a famous like stand up where he touched on a lot of this stuff back before we knew he was a monster. That took a turn.
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Josh
Didn'T it? Yeah. Bill Cosby will not be in the no.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Context preview. Yeah, let's leave him out of this. All right, but. So I guess it's just an evergreen thing. Kids don't listen. And for a while it appeared Texas basketball players weren't listening. And so you weren't expecting them to go to Tuscaloosa and pull off that upset. But they did. Jordan Pope got 28 points. And yeah, don't really know what to think about Alabama, I could see them winning the SEC and being in the final four or finishing fourth in the league and getting knocked out in the first round. Like it feels like everything's on the table. Nate, you know they're going through it a little bit now the two game losing streak and Nate had had some little comments post game about I think it was. Was it lebaron Fineline who was cramping earlier in the week? Yeah and he, and he was like I don't know why he's cramping. He barely played like he was one of those.
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Josh
Little things. It'll say almost anything on the.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Mic here. Which, which how good would it be? Nate Oates coaching Darren Peterson. How good would.
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Josh
That.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Be? Buddy? If you think LeBaron fight lines cramping's bothering you, you ain't seen nothing yet. So it'll be interesting to see where both of these teams go from here but especially Alabama because they're not supposed to be losing home games as double digit favorites. Hey, here's another surprising result perhaps not because of who won the game because it was played down at Neville arena. But Auburn 95 number 15, Arkansas 73. Keyshawn hall got 30 and he had 32 earlier in the week in a game against A M. So how about this First Auburn player with back to back 30 point games since Wesley Person in 1994. Keyshawn Murphy was good again. So Vanderbilt if you're keeping track, Vandy's got the Tylers, Auburn's got the Keyshawns. Auburn was up 15 at the half, controlled the whole game. Arkansas just wasn't very good. It, it felt like one of those every once in a while in a league like that you're going to go on the road and just not show up. And it felt like that was the game for Arkansas. They just went on the road and didn't.
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Josh
Show up. Yeah, we can keep it moving here. I don't really put too much stock in the loss here for Arkansas. Doesn't make me think anything less of them. Let's see what we get over the next two weeks. I thought this was critical. Critical for Auburn season. You've got a real opponent coming into your building. Take care of business. No nonsense. That's exactly what happened. And I also think this was, I think the locker room has realized this but now this is this week was the the indisputable evidence going into the season to hot Pettiford was a projected second third team potential all american level kind of player thought to be the most important player on the roster it is Keyshawn Hall. That is his team. He is the guy. Doesn't mean petty for can't have nights where he goes for 23 or 27. He may well still do that. But the guy who is going to be most responsible for Auburn getting into the NCAA tournament, getting a good seed, finishing much better and closer to the top than the middle or the back in the league, it is Keyshawn Hall. He was one of the key portal additions in the entire country. You didn't know him because he didn't play at the D1 level a season ago. He was terrific in this one. I thought that was a big, big result for Auburn, which is now 10 6. Still plenty of work to do. Three of its next four for Auburn are on the road, which made this win all the more important. They got Mizzou coming up on Wednesday.
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GP (Gary Parish)
In Columbia. Auburn at Missouri on Wednesday. Arkansas hosts South Carolina on Wednesday. One more from the SEC. Florida 91, Tennessee 67. Gators have now won two straight. I've got them up to 16th in the top 25 and one I don't know that they'll ever be operating at the level at which some thought they would in the preseason. But you know, if we're doing that most disappointing team in the country stuff, we can remove them from that conversation for now.
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Josh
It appears. Yeah, now they're out. I actually I had my top 10 most disappointing teams and last week at the court report I did not. I specifically did not include Florida because they frankly didn't come close to registering in the moment there. The only so I Talked they played UConn and they lost a close one at the Garden December 9th. Talk with golden afterward and kind of laid out for me what the start of the season had been like and you know, context at that point. Lost to Arizona, lost to Duke, lost to Yukon and then a four point loss to TCU on a neutral that golden thought was by far the the worst game they played the season well since then. Florida 6 and 1. The only loss is by two against Mizzou. Vandy's number one in the SEC. Florida clearly two at this juncture. We'll see if they can keep it going here. Ruben Chinliu, big time, big time game in this one. 17.16 boards. And then Boogie Flynn having 23 points, more than he's ever scored in Florida Uni. 5 assists, 4 steals. Good stuff out of him. Florida and Tennessee in their past three meetings they have been decided by a total of 74 points. When these Two teams meet, one of them just decimates the other Gators. Get it done. Big job out of them. Tennessee, I want a little more before we kind of dive in and maybe do a little bit more of a, of an inspection on what this team is or is not. But at this point, it is not where it thought it would be, that is for sure. We'll see how the Vols respond.
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GP (Gary Parish)
This week. Just one notable result out of the acc. Then we'll look ahead of the next two days and then we'll go watch the Golden Globes on America's most watched network.
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Josh
The network. That's right. There.
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GP (Gary Parish)
We go. Duke 82, SMU 75 it was a ranked versus ranked matchup this weekend. Who cares about the game? Just wanted to make this point. Cam Boozer, 18.7 rebounds There was a time when he was the clear national player of the year favorite. He still is, I think, but at least in the Kinpom player of the year standings that we reference every once in a while, that has tightened up considerably. He was way ahead not too long ago. Now he has a Ken Palm player of the Year Rank rating of 2.197. I don't have any idea.
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Josh
What that number means, but just keep going. I love, I love hearing.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Like this. Yeah, just keep 2.197. I don't know what that means, but I can tell you this. Iowa State's Joshua Jefferson is at 2.030. Right behind him. Right behind him. I don't know what those numbers mean, but they're interesting, aren't.
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Josh
They? Yeah. The efficiency that he was displaying in the non con is tightening up when you get into league play. That's understandable. Give credit for. I know you said the game's the game, but SMU actually has some, some real heft to itself here. They were able to go in to an intimidating venue. That program is not used to playing there. I know that the, you know, conference realignment has just bastardized so much of all of this, but they didn't go in and get their doors knocked off, which I actually thought was notable and important. And I know Boozer had just an average game here. Duke gets another win. So a big week for John Shire, fellow Bears fan, by the way. And, and they get the, they get the dub to get to 15:1. And we'll see where Boozer stacks up, say a week or a week and a half from now upcoming this week for Duke, they do the, they get the west coast swing. So Duke at Cal, Duke at Stanford in intra conference competition. Going to be weird as F to turn on the television on Wednesday and see Duke playing in Cal's gym. That is going to look so damn strange. But I guess I'm here for, I'm here for the weirdness you want to look at. Well, there's.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Nothing Monday. Yeah, well, yeah, let's look ahead to the next next couple days. We'll do this quickly on Monday. Zero ranked teams are playing, so that's a good night to get caught up on season two of Landman. Streaming right now on Paramount Plus Navy at American 7 o' clock Eastern Monday night on CBS Sports Network. Special shouts Austin Benini. On Tuesday, I'll be in studio CBS Sports Network with Brent Stover, Wally Zerbiak and Roy Hibberd. You see Wally.
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Josh
Up here? There he is. T. Well, look at it. Well, it's not a.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Penis head.
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Josh
Nah, nah. Feel like could have done a little bit better, but it is what.
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GP (Gary Parish)
It is. Oh man, I didn't think you were going to criticize little.
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Josh
Little float. I mean it's got some Wally.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Type traits. I just, I, I, I thought when I showed it to you be like, oh, that's cool. I didn't know you were.
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Josh
And I mean it.
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GP (Gary Parish)
Is cool. I'm not, I didn't know you were.
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Josh
Gonna crash. Keep.
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GP (Gary Parish)
It moving. My apologies to Wally Zerbiak. Studio with Brent Stover, Wally Zerbiak and Roy Hibbert. We got a triple header. George Mason at Loyola, Chicago, Baylor at Oklahoma State, Boise State at UNLV. Elsewhere on Tuesday, Virginia at Louisville, UConn at Seton Hall, Indiana at Michigan State, Iowa State at Kansas, Oregon at Nebraska. What interests.
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Josh
You? There's all of it. Tuesday night is terrific. So we're coming off of five days in a row of big time college and NFL football and then obviously the big day on Saturday for college hoops and then we get right back into it on Tuesday. Plan here on my end, I believe is to get down to the biggest regular season game in for seton hall in 10, 15, how many years? How, when's the last time Seton hall had a game of this much consequence? I expect the Pirates to have a number next to their name when the AP poll refreshes on Monday. So we will have a ranked on ranked battle. Dan Hurley going to play against his alma mater, as UConn fans know. Well, he has not been perfect, not even close. He's lost twice in recent years in that building. So that's an 8pm tip on True TV. I do think I intend on being there, Fall plans go as planned, late night back and then recap that on Wednesday morning. But that along with Iowa State at Kansas is big. Virginia at Louisville. We wait and see if we get Mikel Brown Jr. On the floor or not. Louisville just announced they're gonna bump up their guy from the G League and actually make him eligible this season. I guess he was eligible to play over the weekend, but I don't know if he actually got on the floor against Boston College. And even stuff like Florida is on the road against Oklahoma. So everything we just gave you with the Gators, Oklahoma is a solid enough team. See if you if they do or do not get picked off there. Bama has to play on the road at Mississippi. See a lot of intrigue in the sec, but Wisconsin going to play at Minnesota. So everything that we've talked about over the past hour, we see how much can translate to just, just a couple of days from now. And as a reminder, Tuesday afternoon, 1 Eastern, CBS Sports Network or you can. You're gonna get it in your feed. You're gonna get on the YouTube channel, Jeep and I, you're getting a bonus episode way more weeks than not moving forward for the rest of the season. So if you want a little additional GP and Norlander content, you don't have to wait till Wednesday. We got something coming for you on Tuesday. And GPS frozen. Josh is telling me GPS frozen. That means I'm wrapping the show. Oh, don't Josh, don't let him back in. We're done. We're 70 minutes in. And now we get to the second half of this podcast, which is when we transition. Can we get Fournelli in here for a Bears for a Bears podcast? Can we get this? Can we make this happen here? Thank you so much to everyone listening. In all seriousness, Josh, if GP just froze, you don't have to bring him back in. I will close. I will close the show. My thanks to Kyle Boone stepping in on Friday. Thank you so much for that. And yeah, we'll see what see what awaits my bears next weekend. Tuesday show, CBS Sports Network One Eastern Live again, 9:45am on Wednesday. If you have not, please do subscribe to the YouTube channel. You guys have helped our numbers really boost in a big way. YouTube, Spotify everything that you can do. And if you haven't already, please do rate and review. Speaking of my speaking of my Bears, I'm going to give Adam Hogue Hogan Johnson a great Bears podcast. I listen to. And Hogue recently mentioned something I want to echo here as well. I mostly listen to pods audio version wise. Right. That's just how I consume it. And I know a lot of our audience does as well. But I like to, I like to support the shows that I listen to that have these YouTube channels by going and just giving a, like, giving a subscription button. Hit the like and subscribe just to help, you know, increase the number. So if you listen, never do the YouTube stuff. Do us a favor, just pop in, see what you can do. GP is threatening to come back. I am ending the show. We are done, GP you're done. We will talk to you again on Tuesday. And until then, bear down. Foreign. Guys. By now you've heard me talk about Collars and Company, makers of the dress.
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