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Eye On College Basketball
Our picks for best college arenas to host the NBA Cup; Mikel Brown Jr. hurt, Louisville falls @ Tennessee; how big is Boozer's lead for NPOY?
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Matt Norlander
Our longtime listeners know that every Christmas, Parrish and I give you a mailbag episode around the holiday. We've got that coming next week as well. So we've got some questions already. Definitely want some more. Send what you've got. The more interesting, the more curious, the more random and offbeat, the better. If you want to send one on video, feel free to do that as well. Just include your name and where you're from. When you send the questions, email them shouts to cbsmail.com we'll try and get you squeezed in on what should be a very fun show that we are planning to run the day after Christmas. Now let's get to today's pod.
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Gary Parrish
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Foreign. Gary Parish welcome back, CBS Sports. I own College Basketball podcast where we sometimes discuss camel fighting, dodo birds and leaky black. Matt Norlander is here with you. If you're watching on YouTube. Be Brandon Davies. Smash the like button if you haven't yet already subscribed to CBS Sports, I own College Basketball Podcast. Please do that wherever you subscribe to podcasts including Apple and Spotify. Let's get into it. I want to start with what I hope is a fun conversation based off of something the NBA commissioner said last night before the New York Knicks won the NBA Cup. Congratulations to our friend from Midtown. Our friends from Midtown Manhattan. According to Adam Silver, he's the NBA commissioner, the NBA is considering moving NBA cup championship games to storied college locations. That's the way he phrased it. Not me for and the idea would be getting it out of Las Vegas because, you know, Las Vegas is a fun place to be, but the crowds have not been exceptional there. So maybe you take it to different college locations and try to build it into something bigger than in that way. Interesting, I think. Norlander, let me ask you, does this move you at all? Would you like to see, say, the Knicks and the spurs play at Cameron Indoor Stadium?
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Matt Norlander
Well, yeah, this is I appreciate Adam Silver giving us an additional thing to talk about midweek. We've got games to get to and we will get to them, but Tuesday night was fairly light on interesting results Obviously, Tennessee beating Louisville, the most notable, and we'll get there in a second. But this clip is all of 13 seconds. But to put pure context around it, here's what Silver said in the pregame before the Knicks made history by winning, what, the second NBA cup on Tuesday night with Amazon prime about whether it makes sense to maybe go to some unique locations for the final game. They've suggested, for example, some like, storied college arenas. So we're just looking at other ways we could do this. All right, so the framing there is that Silver is saying that Amazon has suggested to the NBA to look into maybe going to some storied college arenas. And before we get into some obvious candidates that we got to hash out here, I need to start by saying it's just perfect. It is perfect that college basketball teams in November and December can't seem to get enough of playing their sport in NBA arenas. And now the NBA is looking for ways to find, to get its games into college arenas because, of course, that's the way that this needs to go. You gotta have this intermingling. I do. I. I'm open to the idea. I like it. Our poll question on this Wednesday morning on YouTube is, if the NBA cup went to college arenas, would that increase your interest in the event whatsoever? Obviously, by nature of the show, for the most part, our audience is going to have more interest in college hoops in the NBA. Although there's plenty of folks, I'm sure, that watch the show that love the NBA just as much as do college. I am interested to see for fans if by putting two NBA teams into a college venue, would that make you more likely to tune in? Personally, I'm so, you know, neck deep in college basketball, watching, covering, loving the sport, that I really don't pay much attention to the NBA cup whatsoever. I didn't. I know that. I know the championship game last night was played between the Knicks and the Spurs. I didn't watch a second of it. It doesn't. The NBA cup doesn't really interest me that much. If you told me that they were going to suddenly be swooping into a college gym, I would be more likely to tune in, at least in year one, just to see what that looked like, how the attendance was, what the crowd would come off as on a broadcast. So I am intrigued by the idea. I think the NBA should seriously consider it. A part of me thinks that they'll consider it, but that this won't actually come to be. Would love to be wrong, Parrish, but consider the way that these players live their lives throughout the season. The travel accommodations, the nicest of the nicest hotels. Not to say that some, some college campuses absolutely have some of that stuff, but I do wonder if they can get the ball over the line there. If Amazon is the one that's pushing this, I hope that they can make it happen and it would make it more interesting. An event that obviously Silver and his colleagues at the NBA created with the explicit intent to up the interest and stakes of NBA basketball, which for the general public isn't really viewed as something that's appointment television until Christmas Day at the minute at the earliest.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Well, I hear your point, but they play a Major League Baseball game every year in the middle of a cornfield in Iowa. So I don't know that they got a Ritz Carlton right next to it. But we can figure this part of it out for one night. I think it would be cool. Or at the very least it's an interesting idea because, by the way, wouldn't.
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Matt Norlander
You have the semis because they play in Vegas for this. Didn't they play split in Vegas for the semis?
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
So multiple nights?
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Matt Norlander
Yeah, yeah. So, you know, it's one night versus three or four.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
You know, once you decide to take it out of Vegas, you can decide to do whatever. You could play semifinals at home court situations like whatever you could. I'll let them figure it out. But what you said, I think underlines why they're even considering doing this. You said you don't care about the NBA cup at all, but you would turn it on just to see what it looks like.
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Matt Norlander
Yep. Yeah.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Yeah. Okay. Well, then that is, that's why I want. Not the only one.
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Matt Norlander
I know I'm definitely not the only one. It would definitely jump viewership, at least in year one.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
That's exactly right. So I know that, that, that is the case with the Field of Dreams game that Major League Baseball does every summer. I don't particularly care about either team that's playing, but it looks cool. And there's Kevin Costner, so let's turn it on. And so perhaps this could have the same type of. Type of impact because, you know, the Knicks can act like it mattered to them last night, and they did. And perhaps it did. And Wimby can act like it was crushing to lose that game, and he did. And perhaps it was. Although I do know he had some personal stuff going on in his life and, and that actually created a. An interesting post game press conference moment where he was in tears talking about his, his grandmother that he just lost. But broadly speaking, I, I think what you said is, is right. So two of the best teams in the NBA are playing tonight at Allen Field House. What's that going to look like? Let's turn it on. And I bet you for the college, for the NBA stars who would be participating in these games, yeah, they might complain that the hotel is not as nice as the hotel they typically stay at in Miami or LA or New York maybe. But I bet they would walk into those college arenas, whether it's Alan Fieldhouse, Cameron Indoor, the Pit, you name it. We'll get into some of these possibilities in a second. But I bet they'd walk in and look around and see banners and be like, this is kind of a cool thing. I never played here. I never played college. I never played here, but grew up watching it on television. I never played here, but this place reminds me of that place. I had never played here, but man, I played at that place. And let me tell you a story about that. I bet all of that would pop up somewhere and it would be a cool experience. Even if it had some, some, some bumpy parts to it.
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Matt Norlander
Yeah, it would be cool. And the thing that you. Let's say they actually do this and they can do it as early as 26. Would love to see it. The thing that you can't plan for, but I would. Would be really cool if it could naturally happen is at least one, if not both of the teams that wind up playing in the title game or if we're going to do what I think what they do in Vegas is the, it's the final four teams that are standing go there. At least one of those teams winds up having a relatively prominent alum that's on the team that played at the venue where the, where the game is at. That would be really cool. Or if you had like, you know, given how many players Duke and Kentucky put into the NBA having, having that, that would be cool because, you know, I'm obviously not an NBA locker rooms hardly ever, but you do hear about how, you know, where these guys played in college. Like that that's a, that's something that, you know, trash talk, you know, locker room wagers that happen throughout the season, you know, based on my alma maters playing your alma mater. Like there is, there's a lot of good fun potential with all of this. I, I would love to see it happen. And I, again, I just, I just, I just can't help but chuckle over the idea that like there's going to be thankfully, we'll still have no shortage of home and homes in college hoops. Like that's. That's still trending in the right direction, but there's going to be no shortage of college games in NBA arenas for nil moving forward. And both of these sports just can't resist the idea of playing in the others arenas. That's. That's hilarious to me. Let's talk our most desired arenas. We'd like to see this in. I. What we want to see versus what actually will happen might be two different things. But you go first, Paris. I. I've got a list of some schools here, some that I'd like to see that won't happen, some that I think are actually very much on the table and probably have been floated privately behind the scenes. But if you had a top three, four, five list in order or not, what do you got? What's. Where should the NBA strongly be considering to play the NBA cup in 20, 26 and beyond?
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
So I put together a top five list with no regard or little regard for capacity because I think, I think that's.
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Matt Norlander
That's got to be a major factor here.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Yeah. First off, you're having trouble selling tickets to a neutral site regular season NBA game. That's what they're telling us.
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Matt Norlander
All right.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
You're having trouble. And oh, by the way, welcome to college basketball. They do the same thing. You know, they look good on tv, but they don't always look good inside the arena, these neutral court situations. So what the NBA is telling us is, man, we thought we could just put our amazing product in Las Vegas and all the tourists would come. But turns out tourists aren't really going to Las Vegas as much as they used to. And the ones who are there would rather go to the spear than come watch our basketball product. So we're thinking about taking this other places if you're already having problems selling tickets and this is one of the biggest nights of your regular season. And I think both of those things are true. It's okay if you sell 10,000 fewer tickets for one game because it's in an arena that won't hold that many people if it looks cool on TV and resonates with your. With your fans. So I, I put together a list of top five. I know some of these things would be like, and this is the smallest place an NBA game has been played. So ends. But I don't care about that. I'd start with Alan Fieldhouse, just Wimy and Jalen Brunson battling for an NBA cup championship, whatever that means. Inside Allen Field House paying heed. That's a cool place to start it. So, yeah, take it to Kansas. And you know, often I just remember growing up and I didn't grow up in a place that had professional sports at the, at the, at the biggest levels. We had like Double A baseball in Monday Night Wrestling, but that was as good as you could do in Memphis, Tennessee. But every once in a while, like the Cardinals and the Royals would come play an exhibition. I remember vividly right before the 1986 MLB season, the Cardinals and Royals had played each other in the 85 World Series. And it was like a rematch at Tim McCarver Stadium in Memphis. And I went to that and like, you know, fast forward all these years later. I've been to Final Fours and all sorts of stuff, but I remember that exhibition baseball game because it was something that you just didn't get. Where I lived in some of these places are. You're going to be able to take it where they didn't grow up watching the NBA, they don't watch the NBA every night. It can be a real event in that community. And perhaps Alan Fieldhouse could be one of those examples.
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Matt Norlander
Yeah, I agree. And by the way, this is, this would be a throwback idea. You know, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, maybe even in the 90s. But I don't think it was as much in the 90s. You did have NBA teams kind of barnstorm and go and play in college towns, college arenas for sure. Keep, keep going with your list, though. You've got, you've got Allen Fieldhouse 1, which I also like the idea of specifically going to a state that does not have an NBA franchise to bring the. You might think that's, that's antithetical.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
The idea.
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Matt Norlander
I would argue the opposite. You might actually get because of the, the nature of the event and the unique nature of the event. You might be able to get people that are more willing to come in. You never have. Let's just, you know, hypothetically, you never have Victor Wembanyama come playing your state. You're telling me, you know, might, might not try and go and make that happen. Of course you would. What else you got on the list?
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Yeah, so Alan Federhouse checks that box. This place doesn't check that one. But it's just. You turn it on just to see what it looks like. To quote you, Cameron Indoor. Just take two of the best professional basketball teams in the world, some of the best basketball players on the planet, and put them in. Cameron Indoor. And I know it has a capacity of only 9,314, but. Okay, so what does that mean? We sell 9,000 fewer tickets for one game. It's fine.
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Matt Norlander
Ticket price for that will be outrageously. The secondary market will be crazy. Adam Silver is a Duke alum. He chairs the board of trustees at Dukes. So while I think some of the logistics around Cameron Indoor would genuinely be tough, I promise you, there's no other college venue that would drive a larger TV audience and general interest than the idea of having these NBA players, these stars, these huge human beings playing in that venue. I don't know if they can pull that one off, but I know there's no single one that would get more people to tune in just because of the. The very setting than Cameron Indoor.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
I would just. I would adjust that slightly. I. I don't know if they will pull it off, but they can. It's possible. Remembering Covid, when we were just scheduling games, like, you know, 24 hours out. All of this stuff is possible. You just have to be willing to do it.
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Matt Norlander
So who gets the visitors locker room at Cameron Indoor?
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Let them figure it out. But you can do it. You can do it. So that would obviously be incredible. The Palestra. I mean, that. That is. Have you been there? Have you been to the Plestra?
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Matt Norlander
Of course, yes.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
It's the one place. It's not the one place, but it's the main place in college basketball that I would like to get to, but I've never been to.
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Matt Norlander
And, yeah, awesome. That. That might be my top pick, but I think there's no chance they ever go there. But I would love to see it there.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Well, every once in a while, people talk about putting the NCAA tournament there, and very quickly the people who have the power to make that kind of thing happen say, have you ever been there? You couldn't do it there. So perhaps we run into those types of things. Or you could just tough it out for one night or two nights or whatever. But it would be a cool thing to watch the best players in the world play in that place. Similarly, Hinkle Field House. I have been there multiple times, and it's just as cool as the first time you walk into Fenway, the first time you walk into Wrigley, the first time you walk into Hinkle. It's. It's. It's. You look around and it's. It's a lot like the first time you walk in Allen Field House, the first time you walk into Cameron Indoor. So, Hinkle, I would Put on the list. And the Pit, this is another one I've never been to. I've never been there, but I would love to get there someday. And all of these things just. The visuals are. I think are cool. I. I understand the logistics could be complicated, but if you told me the Knicks and the spurs were playing at the Pit tonight, to your point, I would turn that on, if only for a second, just to see what it looks like.
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Matt Norlander
I can't believe you just gave me a top five. And I'll give you mine in a second, but I can't believe you just gave me a top five and it didn't include Pinnacle Bank. What the hell's the wrong with you?
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
I could have changed NBA franchises to a state in which the NBA doesn't live. I could have made it incredible for whoever the home team happened to be. Yeah. Hey, let me go ahead and give you your cup now. Hey, play the game. Let me give you a cup now. Nobody's. No visitors winning inside Pinnacle Bank. We've been through this. That's. That's a miss on my.
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Matt Norlander
I own that huge miss. I actually talk with Fred Hoiberg earlier this week. Nebraska leads this week's court report, and I informed him of our entire Pinnacle bank, but he was not familiar with it. I told him, fred GP Says no one just walks in. And I actually have said, many people have walked in and defeated your team. And he actually started laughing. But Fred Hoiberg is now very much aware of the bit. My next. My next goal. I'm not even kidding. My next goal is at some point, they open the season at home against Michigan State. I. We need to get Fred Hoiberg on camera. Just saying this exact phrase. You don't just walk into Pinnacle Bank. That's all I need to have happen.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
We need that. Hilarious. Fred Hoiberg had no idea that you don't just walk into Pinnacle bank was a thing. Similarly, my wife had no idea that Fred Hoiberg was a thing until she saw him walking on our television the other night, and she was like, who is that? I said, hey, calm down, all right? That's. That's enough. She said, who is that? I said, that's Fred Hoiberg. She said. She said, he's cute. I said, I know what you mean. I think I know what you mean. So congratulations to Carol Hoiberg. My wife approves.
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Matt Norlander
Good stuff. All right. My list behind viewers to the show, longtime viewers know that with this setup over my left shoulder, I've got. This was made back in the day by Basketball Passport, a website that unfortunately no longer exists. You can actually go and log every single game you've gone to upload your tickets. It was awesome. And they sold this poster. So I'm actually going to take this off the wall. It's got every single historic arena in college basketball. So show this here for the, for the audience. Let me move up. I think. Pretty cool, right? Good stuff. So on this, you can see my ring light there as well. This is one hell of a one shot, by the way. Josh, thank you for that a few more times. Oh, you're, you got, you got, you got comments about, about the mic. Right now it sounds like you're talking to me underwater, my man. Okay, so you've got everything from heck at in Seattle, the kennel, you've got the pits. McHale Poly Pavilion. Bud Walton Arena. Would love to see it at Bud Walton arena, but I don't know if that can happen. That's another state that doesn't have. There you go, an NBA team. You've got the Carrier Dome up in Syracuse. That would be an interesting one for sure. Palestra is on here. Cameron Indoor, They've got the Odome on here as well. They've got Breslin Hinkle, Hilton Coliseum, Williams arena, the barn in Minnesota. I'd love to see that there as well. Just the idea of NBA players having to play on a court where suddenly there's like a three foot drop off. You see those videos of how teams have to prepare for playing on that. Like was every time Wisconsin plays at Minnesota, they literally practice diving to save the ball and rolling off safely. It's incredible. I don't think that'll happen. I'd love to see it. GP Here is my top five here. Here are the top five arenas that I think I'd most like to see and I think are. Are logistical. Rupp arena, number one. It's got the size. You're in a basketball hotbed state. There is no NBA franchise there. The facilities meet the requirements, everything across the board. I think Rupp arena should be number one on the list. Also, you have the best likelihood of having people playing in the NBA cup semifinals and finals. Being from Kentucky, I think there could be a lot there. Two is Allen Fieldhouse. It is definitely big enough. It recently had some renovations in the interior. Definitely can happen. That would be two. I have Hinkle at number three. I think Hinkle can actually host this event. You consider all the history surrounding it. It's the one arena on my list. That is also in an NBA city. So everything that comes with Indianapolis, you know, you can do a lot of stuff as you typically would, but. But then, oh, by the way, you play in Hinkle, the capacity there might be perfect. And it's another notable thing that you play in a legendary barn. Number four in the same state. You tell me it wouldn't look awesome at assembly hall to see NBA teams play in the NBA Cup. I think, I think visually assembly hall would be number two behind Cameron Indoor. And then at five with the idea that Cameron Door should be on the top five. I just don't know if they can pull that off. I'm trying to give you five arenas that I think logistically could be. That's North Carolina, the home of Michael Jordan. It's a huge arena basketball hotbed. And either you play it in the Dean Dome in the next couple years while it still exists, or North Carolina is actually looking to build potentially a new building in general. And if that were to open and say, let's say this idea really hits and we're in year three, four, five, six of this, whenever North Carolina builds a new arena, that could also. That could also work. So that's my top five. A couple of other nominees mentioned Bud Walton arena, big basketball hotbed.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
It'd be cool.
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Matt Norlander
Breslin, just because of how the. Like, I. It might be a. It might be something of a flop. I'd love to see how Breslin's setup with the student section there actually looked for an NBA cup game as well.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
That's the other thing. You have to fill all the student sections with old people who just jump down and paint them.
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Matt Norlander
Or maybe you don't like. I guess it depends on what it's played here. So there's final. So you're right. That might be the case. I was thinking like, maybe you actually get students there now. They're not going to have the same investment in that. These are also logistical things you need to. You need to account for. But I am tickled over the idea of the barn in Minnesota. Vandy's Memorial Gym. That would be cool just to see that. The idea of Mackie, which is an incredible venue, but having these guys go and spend a night or two in West Lafayette, it's just. To me, it's just funny. So interesting idea. Gave us some good, you know, pod fodder to start the show here. I think Rupp arena should be the one that if they do this, they try first. It's big enough, it's modern. Good City, no NBA franchise in that state, but it is as basketball intense as any state is right there with Indiana, North Carolina, Rupp arena would be at the top of my list.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
And just law of averages, you're probably going to have like four Kentucky players in the game, correct?
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Matt Norlander
Yes.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
So it checks that box. I don't care about the Dean Smith Center. I don't mean it like that. But when I walk in there doesn't feel like Cameron to me. It doesn't feel.
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Matt Norlander
It's just big. That's why I put it on the list.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
It's just big. Right. But those banners are cool. Like there's something cool about looking up and seeing Michael Jordan, right? Yeah. And I bet you player there are NBA players worth hundreds of millions of dollars who would walk into that place and they would take. They pull out their iPhones and they would take a picture of those banners.
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Matt Norlander
No doubt about it. Yeah.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
And I, by the way, any pictures in Las Vegas last night of anything other than each other?
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Matt Norlander
Pretty much, yes. Before we get out of here, there has been a mention in the chat here from Russ from the boneyard. And I did see this on, on social media as well. I, trust me, I love the idea. I know it's tongue in cheek. They will not be flying out to play this at the Lahaina Civic Center. It would be the most epic thing ever if they did the NBA cup where they play the Maui Invitational. We can all dare to dream. That's not going to happen. But half serious here, you tell players they get a trip to Hawaii. On top of all this, I mean, on top of all the money that comes. On top of it. They might be more willing to do that than playing any of these college arenas. I don't know. But that obviously that, that can't and won't happen. But yeah, we can, we can dare to drink.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
That feels like a place where the players association would say we can't be on a plane for that long. We like to play cards, but we can't play it for that long. We can't play cards for that long.
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Matt Norlander
I'm talking about the most bare bones locker room situation imaginable. It's at the Lahaina Civic Center.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
But the resorts are nice.
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Matt Norlander
The resorts are incredible. Everything about it is incredible. The gym is what it is and that's what's made that event so special over the years.
- [27:09]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
All right. Do you think it's time to move on? Have we.
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Matt Norlander
It's time to move on and talk some balls and cards.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Okay. Tennessee entered on a three game losing streak. Louisville had just bombed Memphis, so of course the balls beat the Cardinals last night by 21 points. We'll start the Wednesday whip around. We'll do it there next. First though, let's get a word from our partners.
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Gary Parrish
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- [30:28]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Final score, number 20, Tennessee 83. Number 11, Louisville 62. Projected lottery pick Michael Brown did not play for Louisville, reportedly because of a lower back injury. Is that the storyline of the game, Norlander, or can you find it somewhere in your heart to give credit to the boss?
- [30:46]
Matt Norlander
I am gonna find it plenty in my heart to give credit to the Falls, okay? You kidding me? Come on now. I, I do think that in your.
- [30:52]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Scripture or not.
- [30:55]
Matt Norlander
You'Re not in your scripture either. Okay?
- [30:58]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Leviticus. Sometimes.
- [30:59]
Matt Norlander
Yeah, I, I doubt it.
- [31:02]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Sometimes.
- [31:04]
Matt Norlander
Tennessee is more the story to me. They get a second notable win. No Brown for Louisville. I get that. But come selection Sunday, they're gonna have non con wins over Houston on a neutral at home over Louisville Brown. You know, Darren Peterson didn't play last night. We're gonna get to them in just a second. But now, you know, another freshman top 10 pick doesn't play. Hopefully he's not out for too long. But to me it was more about Tennessee. Unfortunately, the game was kind of a dud. Like Tennessee fans, you'll take the win. You know, easy win, but it just wasn't compelling at all. No Brown, it just felt like Louisville had, you know, all of its conviction sapped from its, from its abilities there from, from the opening jump. Louisville has now lost 12 games in a row on the road against ranked teams. That streak continued last night.
- [31:53]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
We'll try to put all that on Pat Kelsey I'm not, I'm not.
- [31:56]
Matt Norlander
I'm just giving you the. I'm giving you the straight stats here. Tennessee had only lost, or excuse me, Louisville had only lost to Tennessee twice last night in 1922. They went 103 years between losses. Granted, these teams have only played seven times total, which is somewhat surprising considering how close they are to each other. They don't. They've only played seven times. Nonetheless, that is the case there. Tennessee. I give them credit for really halting Louisville from an offensive perspective. The Cards went into that game second best offensive rating in the country. 127 points per 100 possessions, 0.90 PPP. Last night at Thompson Bowling. So good on Tennessee and obviously they're very, very good on the offensive boards. They had 10 last night. They're ranked top five in the country in offensive rebounds per game. Good on the balls. Really nice win. What were your takeaways?
- [32:48]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Yeah, like first and foremost, like they had been on this three game losing streak since beating Houston. And over the previous four games, including the Houston game, Nate Amen had been not very good. I think like 25 from the field, 30 from three. He's immensely talented but had not been playing to the level he needs to play at. Hadn't been challenging Cameron Boozer for freshman of the year or national player of the year recently and didn't do it last night. Boozer had a bigger game than aim it but he was 5 of 11 from the field, 13.7 rebounds, 3 assists. He was better. Obviously the story is Louisville's different without their one and done dynamic lead guard. Surprise surprise. But that was one that got away from them in a pretty big way. And you know, just this is how they play. But against Memphis they were 18 to 35 from three and that's how you win a game by 26. And against Louisville they were. Or against Tennessee rather. 7 of 34 from. From three. 21%. You lose that one by 21. It's not as simple as that. But that's a big. That's a big part of the problem.
- [34:03]
Matt Norlander
Yeah, and we see how Louisville, you know, looks over the next couple of weeks here, how long Brown will or will not be out for such a fun player to watch. Louisville's next notable game is on the road against Cal. So they get the road trip and ACC play to start the season. The way the ACC schedule works in basketball football, they got their own weird stuff. Nine game schedule. Some are five, some are four, some are five on the road, whatever. Some are playing nine summers playing eight. The football thing's an entire mess that came out on Tuesday in hoops you only have to take the west coast trip every other year and when you do that you don't I believe if you have to go to Callen Stanford, you don't have to go to smu. So that's the case for Louisville this season. It goes to call and Stanford to start the ACC schedule. They'll, they'll ring in 2026 out there in the, in the greater Bay Area and then they won't have to do it again for two more years. Those schools will go to Louisville next year. Hopefully Brown is back in time for Tennessee. They stopped the bleeding with avoiding only their set. What would have been their second four game losing streak under Rick Barnes. The first one came in his first season a decade ago and now Tennessee will look up again at them for an interesting game and it's a good one to start. SEC play January 3rd that Saturday against.
- [35:18]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Arkansas Final score Kansas 73, Towson 49 Darren Peterson did not play Bill Self released a statement a couple of hours before tip off explaining that he felt Darren Peterson some tightness in a quad like cramping on Saturday in the final minutes of regulation against NC State. That's why he left the game, never return. According to Bill, he tried to practice on Monday, felt a similar type of tightness, cramping and that is why he did not play last night. So it's just another game missed by the projected number one pick of the 2026 NBA Draft. What'd you make of that?
- [36:00]
Matt Norlander
Not much because we talked about this on Sunday. He didn't play, didn't think that he would play like that. He tried to play. Next game for Kansas is next Monday at home against Davidson. Maybe given everything that Self said and his exact wording, let me bring it up here because the wording, you know, they're choosing this with intention, how they are wording this stuff. The exact statement that that Self used in the lead up to last night's game where I don't think really hardly anyone was expecting him to be on the floor was Darren experienced cramping in his quad against NC State on Saturday and felt similar in practice yesterday. He is not able to compete at full strength. He will not play tonight against Towson. He will continue to work tirelessly and prepare to compete with his teammates and represent Kansas in the very near future. So I don't know if very near future means Davidson next Monday, but as I said on the Sunday show, I think you should just sit and hope and believe that it can be UCF. The, the Big 12 opener on January 3rd. That's a road game. We wait and see on that.
- [36:58]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Yeah, you know, one more by game and then three Big 12 games. But all three of those games, the first three are against unranked opponents. Obviously, if Darren Peters can play this weekend, he should. Or. Or Monday. He should play Monday. That'd be awesome. But I don't really believe there's any urgency to this. If I were a Kansas fan, I would. I would kind of appreciate the idea that. Never a great time for this to happen, but this is literally the best. This is the easiest four game stretch left on the schedule. It's in front of you right now. So if he can play Monday, play Monday. But you could reasonably try to get through the Davidson game and the first three Big 12 games without him. Like you could win all those games without him. I don't know that they will, but they could. If you can win at NC State without him able to close, you could win any of these games without him being in a uniform and come back January 13th for the Iowa State game. That would give him like basically another month off, more or less. And so hopefully, however much time he needs, he'll get it here and then we'll never talk about quads or hamstrings again because this is kind of a. A depressing story in this context of basketball. We're going to have hopefully 15, 20 years of Wimby in the NBA. If somebody is sidelined by this stuff, there is usually always next year. But in college basketball, we know you're really only getting one year of Darren Peterson and so far he's already missed eight games and it appears he might miss a ninth, maybe a 10th, maybe an 11th. But hopefully by the time he returns this time, all of this quad, hamstring, soft tissue stuff is. Is behind him.
- [38:50]
Matt Norlander
Agreed. I do think that not playing to this extent, if he doesn't play another game or two, probably put. Now this is further down the list. You just want him healthy. You want to be able to win. But he was my preseason pick for national Player of the Year. He is reaching the point where he is missing so much time that you probably can't overcome that, even if he returns as credible and gets KU into the top three. Today's court report also has a look at Yaxel Lindenborg and how he is, in my opinion at least closing something of a gap with Cameron Boozer, who is for sure the front runner. No doubt about it for national player of the year. And speaking of Boozer and speaking of Duke, they got a win on Tuesday night that was rickety. I mean they had, they had their most turnovers in a game, I think, Let me see, was it 22 hp? You got that at the ready here? Let me bring up the stat. I think they had 22 at home against Lipscomb last night to see 22 and that's their most in the game in more than 15 years.
- [39:44]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Comfortable with.
- [39:45]
Matt Norlander
Say it again.
- [39:46]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
It was more than I would be comfortable with.
- [39:49]
Matt Norlander
Yeah, no question about it. Now they, they wind up pulling away 97, 73. Boozer goes for 26 and 13. He also had a career high six turnovers, but Lipscomb was up near double digits in the first half. Boozer. Boozer. And Duke came back and got the lead at halftime and wound up winning. Booster said something interesting earlier this week that I'll get to in just a second. But any, any thoughts or takeaways on, on a, on a runaway win that really if you watch the game though, like Lipscomb came to play and then it was one of those deals where they had about 27 minutes in them to really give Duke something to think about. Their style play tossed him and then, and then Duke, Duke went Duke.
- [40:29]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Well, I was in studio here in New York and we have a 10 or we have a show that goes from whenever our game ends. Dayton over Florida State till 10pm Eastern. And so you're preparing for that and it's the type of thing that throughout the night somebody's in your ear saying hey, Duke's down six. Hey, Duke's down eight. Hey, are you keep an eye on this. And then obviously, you know, the second half happens and they pulled away the way you expect them to pull away. But the week before Christmas can be tricky for basketball teams because most of your big non league stuff at this point is in your river mirror. Feast week is behind you. Conference play is just around the corner and got finals.
- [41:17]
Matt Norlander
You're looking forward to going home, seeing your friends and your family. There's a lot of stuff that's attached to all this. Yes.
- [41:21]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Think about when you were not a basketball player but just a kid and it was the week before Christmas break. Like you know, I know you should be focused test and all that, but I know just personally I'm here so I couldn't step in and do anything about it. But I just, I called my wife yesterday morning and I was like so what's going on? And she was like, oh nothing. And I was like, did I hear the kids in the background? I was like, are. Did the kids just not go to school today? And she was like, well, Louie had a Christmas party, so I brought him home after that. And Oliver felt like, you know, he didn't need to be there. All his tests were done, and so it just. Like, nobody cared. I just left. Nobody. My kids just skipped school. Nobody cared. And so that. That can be. Apparently, I need to fix that when I get home. Like, I hate to see that.
- [42:06]
Matt Norlander
Kids, let's be clear here.
- [42:08]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
You.
- [42:08]
Matt Norlander
You parent your kids the way you want to, but they don't get to decide when they go to school unless. Unless health issues are dictating otherwise.
- [42:16]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
My wife and talk to her. I was here, okay? I woke up to this news. It wasn't like I okayed this. This is all stuff that happened while I was in New York City. All right? I agree with you fundamentally. My kids aren't that bright. Like, my oldest is. My oldest is maybe a genius. He's great. But the little ones, I don't know about them, all right? They certainly don't need to be skipping school, so. But Duke skipped school in the first half last night. That's what I'm trying to tell you. But in the second half, they checked back in, and they handled what they were supposed to handle heading into the game. I used the top 25 and one on this. So we've sort of settled. Maybe not just me and you. Perhaps me and you only, but, like, it feels like even the AP poll, who's the best team in the country, who deserves to be number one? Is it Arizona or Michigan? And I wonder if Duke is sitting here like, yo, we're 11 0. We have the best player in the country. We're Duke. Like, why are you not. Why are we not a part of this conference? Should Duke be offended at the lack of attention? Duke is not getting enough attention.
- [43:18]
Matt Norlander
Yeah, let's see. Oh, my gosh.
- [43:21]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Are you concerned Duke is being overlooked by the world?
- [43:26]
Matt Norlander
Let's go do it. Come on. Here's the deal. I wrote a week and a half ago that Duke had the best resume in the country, because guess what? At that point, after the win against Michigan State, it did. But since then, Arizona has obviously passed them. And you can argue that Michigan has passed them. It's obviously in the conversation. I mean, you know, I understand it's been mostly Michigan versus Arizona for number one. This speaks to the. The bigger thing, which is just great that we have all of these really, really, really good Teams. And yes, Duke has the national player, the year front runner. It's got a, it's got a case for that as well. So you want to consider them, that's fine. I told you. Massey ratings got Duke number one. So there's, there's one metric out there that has. Yeah, I know. You love the mask. You love the Massey ratings. Hey, on Duke, though, Josh, can we play this? I think this is like 35, 40 seconds. The brotherhood podcast. This was Cameron Boozer, Isaiah Evans, Caleb Foster. They got their own in house productions and all this stuff. I, I found this funny. They're talking about that Duke win over Michigan State. I think they were talking about maybe just the most memorable or notable thing that's happened this season so far. Check out what Boozer said earlier this week. My favorite moment. I mean, I don't know if I can say this, but I think the F cam Boozer. Yeah, that was just, that was so strong. Yeah, that was, it was the whole arena.
- [44:43]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
I'm like, yo, like, what is going on right now? I knew, I knew that was gonna turn them up, too. This is what we're chanting. He started going dead. He started going crazy, bro.
- [44:52]
Matt Norlander
Yeah, yeah. And after the game, I was like, what did I do? You know, Michigan State didn't recruit me, so I was just, you know, But I mean, I was. Great energy in there, for sure.
- [45:02]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Yeah, I can see like a Miami maybe, like, yeah, Michigan State.
- [45:06]
Matt Norlander
To be coming like that. Like, okay, I just, I think it's hilarious that, like, I, I, I, I didn't catch that on the broadcast, but maybe I was watching other stuff. I didn't, I didn't realize that this has happened, that most of Breslin was chanting F cam Boozer. And so this, I, I thought booster's reaction was hilarious. He's just, after the game, he's just kind of taking it all in. He had another really good game. Duke gets a road win and booze is like, what did I do, dude? You play for Duke. This is what's going to come with the tape. You have to know this. You're the best player on Duke. You go into a hostile environment, they're going to boo the crap out of you.
- [45:39]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
26 and 13 last night. And I guess the National Player of the Year race isn't over because it's December 17th.
- [45:47]
Matt Norlander
It's not over. Yeah, it's not Yaks. I think Yaxel can catch him. Not that I think that he will. I think that he can. More on that in today's court report. Go check it out.
- [45:55]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Yeah, I'm not going to predict the future, all right. But right now it's not close. Like one of the things I said last night on one of the shows we did last night is that if you sent out 100 ballots to knowledgeable college basketball people, if you could find 100 of them, if you told them to rank top five national player of the year candidates, if anybody had anybody other than Cameron Boozer at number one, they, they're either they don't know what they're doing or they're trying to be different for the sake of being different. There is literally no good argument for anybody else right now in this moment.
- [46:33]
Matt Norlander
Yeah, Boozer has the lead. Interestingly enough, Yaxel is shooting better from the line from field, from the field, from three point range and is. It's pretty close to him in per 40 numbers. But it is Boozer. He has the lead.
- [46:46]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Same too.
- [46:48]
Matt Norlander
Yeah, well they're both really good names but yeah, Yaksa Lindenberg, really big yaks. There's. There's something about that. He's coming off a game with 28. Eight eight at least three blocks and two steals. There's only been five players. Five instances of that happening the past 30 years. He actually has two of them. He's awesome. Again. Go check out their court report. We'll link it in the podcast description. Just two quickies for me and then we'll wrap the whip around. However you want. You mentioned CBS Sports Network. I at least want to mention that result. Dayton won 9,769 over FSU. Florida State has a five game losing streak after starting 5 and 1 their season. For all intents and purposes of what you could hope it might have been under Luke clouds. That's done. Dayton has a 33 game home winning streak on its home floor, has not lost in non in specifically non con play. Has not lost a non complay since November of 21 and it is beating the teams in those games by an average of 18 and a half points overall. Really, really impressive stuff for them. Florida State has now lost five straight non con games on the other side for the first time since the late 1960s. Not good but that was on our air and Daytona that was. That was important for the A10. And then the only other one. I'll just mention that Butler Josh is on the show here getting ready for. For a well deserved. Speaking of Maui for a well deserved Maui holiday upcoming here. Yukon has Never lost a butler 12 0. They took care of him easily last night. And no shock there. Sorry to rub it in, Josh, but it was least notable that Yukon, one of the best teams in the country, also played like Duke last night, had no issues at home and got the win. Anything else from last night you want to hit on?
- [48:19]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Well, I mean, Lawan Watts probably feels disrespected right now. Texas Tech, Northern Colorado 90, I think it was as recently as Sunday. We were like JC Toppins.
- [48:31]
Matt Norlander
Amazing.
- [48:32]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Christian Anderson's amazing. But like, who else? Who else? Lawn Weiss goes out, gets 36, 12 of 13 shooting, six rebounds, four assists. So he was terrific. And Texas Tech, that was kind of a game for a little while. But you know, they pull away, win by double digits. But you're not going to get 36 from Lawan Watts or probably J.T. toppin very often. But if that was a good sign for Texas Tech, they've been banged up, they've been shorthanded. But last night, the guy I think Grant McCaslin would have told you in the preseason he hoped would be their third most important person. He was their most important person last night.
- [49:17]
Matt Norlander
Yes. Big old Watts. Good performance. That was an entertaining game. Texas Tech gets it done and now its next game is a biggie against Duke in the Garden this weekend. That'll of course be in the final form one on Friday show.
- [49:31]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
All right, we want to look ahead to the next couple days before we get out of here.
- [49:34]
Matt Norlander
Let's do it.
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Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
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- [50:41]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
All right, before we get out of here, let's look ahead to the next couple of days on Wednesday. That's tonight. Vanderbilt at Memphis South Florida at Alabama. Big night for the American. Got an opportunity to pick up two big wins but we'll probably pick up zero. I don't know. Do you give my, do give my alma mater an opportunity? Do you give him a puncher's chance against the Commodores?
- [51:05]
Matt Norlander
I mean, I do. That is the most interesting one of the night. Vandy's undefeated top 10 team potentially have yet to take a loss. And if you can win on the road against Memphis, I know Memphis is a down team but you get the road win. This would be Vanderbilt's second road win of the season. Reinforcements to the idea that you can, if not are the best team in the sec. There we'll see if Penny can give it a good, give it a good run. The Alabama South Florida game, there's a connection there. Brian Hodgson is the coach at usf. He was a former assistant under NATO who has has little issue giving, giving a favor out here and there for, in terms of a scheduling philosophy to some of his guys. So I'm not surprised by that overall. But yes it is a big night for the American like kind of, kind of need both of them to just increase the, the conferences Distant, distant, distant chances of even hoping to be a, a multi bid league elsewhere. Creighton is at Xavier. I have this at the bottom of my, in my notes portion of the court report. Creighton. This is, you know, Greg McDermott's worst season at Creighton. It's their worst season since the late 2000s to start that is. And they're at Xavier who's off to a really, a really nice start all things considered. You know, 8 and 3 on a nice little run here. Big east battle. We're getting, you know, mid December, given league size, 20 game schedules for the Big east we're getting a little bit more of that. Arizona State plays at ucla. Mick Cronin very quietly signed a contract in May. I have obtained that contract. It is in today's court report. There had been some.
- [52:45]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
You got it. You got it. Seven months later. Good job.
- [52:49]
Matt Norlander
Yeah, yeah, I, yeah, it's. They never announced the, they never announced the contract extension. So there had been some scuttlebutt that he might have been having a wandering eye with some schools like when Louisville came open. Well, if any of that was true, he's not going anywhere. So you can read more about that in my story today. And then the only other one from tonight that's got My interest is 8:30 tip. Georgetown at Marquette. Marquette, we've talked about plenty. Georgetown has lost three of its past five. It needed overtime to beat St. Peter's at home. It got off to a nice start. It beat Clemson early. It won on the road at Maryland. And now that that has been squandered. So it is going to be a depressing Christmas for whatever school loses this one. But for the purposes of the Big East, I think it benefits the league a lot more if Georgetown can go on the road and win at Marquette. Now that's not going to be easy, but that it's a very urgent game for, for Georgetown to kind of get itself back in the, in the, in the right swing of things. It's next three games after this will all be at home. So it could improve to 8 and 3 with the potential of getting to an 11. 3 could be in a better spot, but a loss that would, that would certainly spoil a nice start to the season for Ed Cooley, who is now, you know, he's in year three and they wanted to make good gains. That's still to be determined whether or not that happens over the next couple of months.
- [54:03]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Circling back to the American trivia time, do you know where it rates as a conference at Ken Palm right now?
- [54:08]
Matt Norlander
I'm going to say 10.
- [54:10]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Yeah, it's 10. Yeah, 10 behind the Mountain West, Atlantic 10 West Coast Conference and the Missouri Valley Conference. That league used to have Houston and UConn.
- [54:23]
Matt Norlander
Had Louisville for a year, I believe.
- [54:24]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Yes, Louisville, Houston, Utah, Yukon. Greg Marshall's Wichita State.
- [54:30]
Matt Norlander
Yep.
- [54:32]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Oh, man. Yeah, that's tough on Thursday. It's a good night to catch up on Landman. Season two streaming right now on Paramount plus, because if you ain't got something to watch, it probably shouldn't be basketball. It probably shouldn't be basketball on Thursday. Not a whole lot going on on Thursday night. Are you watching any shows right now?
- [54:53]
Matt Norlander
Am I watching what?
- [54:54]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Are you watching any shows right now, Landman?
- [54:57]
Matt Norlander
I am. I, you know, during basketball season, I don't have as much time and I'm way behind. So I'm on season. Yes, Season three, Season three of Peaky Blinders, which is a very good show. I took me way too long to start it. I think I watched season two literally last December. So Thursday, Thursday night, I'll try and squeeze in another episode, get it going. It's a good show if you. If, If. If the general premise didn't get you, like, I'd give it. I'd give it a shot and watch it with captions because it's takes place in the, you know, early 20th century over in England. But, you know, accents and following the plot can sometimes be a little difficult. But I actually find it to be a very good show. Cillian Murphy, very much pre Oppenheimer. Good, Good show. That. That's what I'm on right now.
- [55:44]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
So you're telling me there's a show out there I could watch that's hard to understand and hard to follow if you're not.
- [55:50]
Matt Norlander
It's one of those things where. I know a lot of people watch shows sometimes, but it's almost like they're gonna. They gotta watch the show, but they gotta be on their phone. No, no, don't. Don't do it.
- [55:56]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Just.
- [55:56]
Matt Norlander
Just lock in. That's all.
- [55:57]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Yeah.
- [55:58]
Matt Norlander
Have you not seen Peaky Blinders?
- [56:00]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
I've never watched it. I apologize.
- [56:02]
Matt Norlander
I think you would like it. It's good.
- [56:03]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Okay, I'm on. I'm on my Pluribus right now.
- [56:08]
Matt Norlander
That's. I'm minimum. Minimum a year and a half from getting to that. I've heard it's good, and I love Vince Gilligan, but that's one of those where if it's still good after season two, catch me in 2027, and maybe I'll get to it.
- [56:22]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Hey, nothing's promised. You don't know that you'll be.
- [56:25]
Matt Norlander
And I'm. And I'm okay with that.
- [56:28]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Nothing's promised. I know you're not in your scripture very much, but at some point in the scripture, it makes it clear nothing's promised.
- [56:35]
Matt Norlander
Isn't the Rapture in the scripture?
- [56:37]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
I don't remember. I'm mostly focused on Leviticus these days.
- [56:43]
Matt Norlander
That's what you're dialed into?
- [56:44]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
I think so. I like Pluribus. I got caught up on my flight to New York. I'm all in.
- [56:49]
Matt Norlander
All right.
- [56:50]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Some of the episodes, they don't talk very much, but I'm fine with it. I kind of like the piece. I like the quiet. I think. I think I'm in. I think I'm a fan of a show that has very little words sometimes.
- [57:02]
Matt Norlander
It's ironic.
- [57:03]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
I'm fine with it. Are we ready to get out of here?
- [57:06]
Matt Norlander
That's a show.
- [57:07]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
All right. Shouts to Devin Downey. Shouts to Chester, S.C. terry Teagle. He's a legend. Huck Larnell thank you guys once again for watching listening to the Ion College Basketball Podcast. If you're not subscribed, please go subscribe anywhere you can subscribe to podcast. It's an interesting little glare you have. Thanks for putting a glare on the screen to end the show.
- [57:29]
Matt Norlander
It's called a ring light. They're in your glasses the whole show.
- [57:32]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
Tough.
- [57:32]
Matt Norlander
That's a tough situation.
- [57:35]
Co-host (likely Brandon Davies or another CBS Sports Network host)
If you're not subscribed, go subscribe anywhere you subscribe to podcasts. Apple, Spotify, more of us than there are of them. That should be reflected in the comments. So do that and we will talk to you again on Friday morning where I plan to pick five games. Perfectly. Till then, happy holidays and take care.
- [58:02]
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