Our Top 100 And 1 Teams + Players Lists I Ranking the coaches I Picks for NPOY, FOY, TOY & DPOY

Summary

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Episode Overview

Podcast: Eye On College Basketball
Episode: Our Top 100 And 1 Teams + Players Lists | Ranking the coaches | Picks for NPOY, FOY, TOY & DPOY
Date: October 30, 2025
Hosts: Gary Parrish & Matt Norlander (CBS Sports)

This fast-paced, insight-packed preseason episode features Gary Parrish and Matt Norlander revealing and debating their personal and CBS Sports' official rankings for college basketball teams, players, and coaches. The duo discusses who are the true national title contenders this year, digs into their most contentious rankings, previews Player of the Year races (including the impact of a loaded freshman class), and finishes with bold predictions and a breakdown of the sport’s top coaches.

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Main Themes

• The unusually wide field of legitimate NCAA title contenders for the upcoming season.
• CBS Sports’ Top 101 Teams and Players lists, including personal outlier picks from Parrish and Norlander.
• The dynamic battle between proven veterans and generational freshmen in the National Player of the Year (NPOY) race.
• Ranking and dissecting the nation’s best college basketball coaches.
• Preseason predictions for Player, Freshman, Transfer, and Defensive Player of the Year.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Who Are the True National Championship Contenders? (00:31–08:24)

• The Field is Wide Open: Both hosts agree this isn’t a two-team race. Besides Houston and Purdue (AP #1 and #2), Kentucky, Michigan, Duke, St. John’s, UConn, and Florida are all mentioned as viable contenders.

• Houston’s #1 Case (Norlander’s Pick):

  • “It’s not that complicated. It’s the most consistent program... Kelvin Sampson has a winning mandate baked into his DNA.” (04:05, Norlander)
  • Three core pieces return: Milo Suzanne (“gonna run the offense”), Emmanuel Sharp (“a ton of experience,” “as much motivation as anyone in the sport”), Joseph Tugler (“might be the best [defender] in the entire sport”), plus a stellar freshman class.

• St. John’s #1 Case (Parrish’s Pick):

  • Trust in Rick Pitino’s recruiting and portal prowess. Early in the offseason, Parrish lauded St. John’s as “the most talented roster in the country.”
  • Expresses some uncertainty: “Almost everything I’ve heard since then has made me feel less good about it... but I am going to stick to my guns here.” (10:20, Parrish)

• Purdue’s Safety:

  • “If I were going to switch anything, it would be Purdue. I think Purdue is the safest pick among all legitimate national title contenders.” (11:56, Parrish)

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2. Where Do Parrish and Norlander Differ Most on Teams? (13:59–26:21)

BYU: Parrish High (3rd), Norlander Lower (15th)

• Norlander’s concern: “They were 82nd in defensive efficiency... if you’re going to be a top three team, you probably need to be a top 30 defense.” (15:02, Norlander)
• Parrish’s counter: “Over the final eight weeks of the season... they were seventh in the country... They upgraded at every position.” (16:02, Parrish)

Kansas: Norlander High (7th), Parrish Lower (18th)

• Norlander: “I just… don’t want to believe Bill Self will have three consecutive underachieving teams. Darren Peterson leading the charge.” (18:12, Norlander)
• Parrish: “That’s what you’re aligning yourself with—one of the greatest college basketball coaches of all time, and… maybe one of the greatest players in the history of the sport before this is over.” (19:28, Parrish)
• The X-factor: Darren Peterson (“the most equipped, best, most talented… freshman I’ve ever had in my program”—per Bill Self).

Florida: Parrish (6th), Norlander (11th)

• Norlander praises last season’s historic backcourt, expresses skepticism about replacements (“have to replace the best backcourt in the history of Florida’s program”). (22:07, Norlander)
• Parrish: “They did a really good job replacing the backcourt… They’ve positioned themselves to repeat as national champions.” (23:30, Parrish)

Texas & Illinois: Divergences

• Parrish ranks Texas in top 25, Norlander has them at 34 (“purely a function of…”), while Norlander is high on Illinois (#9), and Parrish is lower (#24).

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3. National Player of the Year (NPOY) Race — Loaded with Talent (27:48–38:44)

• Braden Smith (Purdue senior PG):

  • The preseason favorite due to “safety” of proven production on a top team (Parrish backs as NPOY pick).
  • “Nobody disagrees on Braden Smith and nobody disagrees on Purdue… He’s going to be the first, first-team All-American and… beat Bobby Hurley’s NCAA all-time assist record.” (28:36, Norlander)

• The Freshman Class:

  • “We got three of them dudes at least… It may be more” (Cameron Boozer, A.J. Dybansa, Darren Peterson). (33:16, Parrish and Norlander)
  • Norlander: “If Darren Peterson is averaging 28 a game and Kansas is a top three team in the Big 12, he will be national player of the year.” (34:12, Norlander)

• All-America Sleeper Picks:

  • Solo Ball (UConn), Josh Hubbard (Mississippi State), Darius Acuff (Arkansas), Michael Brown Jr. (Louisville), Thomas Haugh (Florida), Bruce Thornton (Ohio State), LeBaron Phylon (Alabama).

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4. Ranking America’s Best Coaches (40:17–44:26)

CBS Sports Composite Top 5 (as revealed by Marcus Nelson):

1. Dan Hurley (UConn)
2. Kelvin Sampson (Houston)
3. Rick Pitino (St. John’s)
4. Bill Self (Kansas)
5. Matt Painter (Purdue)

• Norlander: “No issues… that’s my top five. I had Hurley 1, Sampson 2, Self 3, Pitino 4, Painter 5.” (41:05, Norlander)
• Discussion about other risers: Todd Golden and Mark Pope jumped after NCAA Tournament success; Ben McCollum (Iowa) debuts on the list after rapid ascension from D2 to D1 success.
• Brian Dutcher (San Diego State) seen as a snub.

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5. Predictions: POY, FOY, TOY, and DPOY (45:14–46:48)

• Norlander’s Picks:

  • Player of the Year (POY): Darren Peterson (Kansas)
  • Freshman of the Year (FOY): Darren Peterson (Kansas)
  • Transfer of the Year (TOY): Donovan Dent (UCLA)
  • Defensive Player of the Year (DPOY): Joseph Tugler (Houston)

• Parrish’s Picks:

  • POY: Braden Smith (Purdue)
  • FOY: A.J. Dybansa (BYU)
  • TOY: Donovan Dent (UCLA)

“Can Braden Smith hold them off? I understand why people are skeptical, but for now I’ll stick with him.” (46:48, Parrish)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I think Purdue is the safest pick… I don’t have any doubt they’re going to be there at the end.” — Gary Parrish (11:56)
• “We got three of them dudes… at least in college basketball… and maybe more.” — Gary Parrish on the freshman class (33:16)
• “Bill Self… one of the greatest coaches of all time… Darren Peterson, maybe one of the greatest players before this is all over.” — Gary Parrish (19:28)
• On Braden Smith: “He’s going to be the first, first-team All-American and… beat Bobby Hurley’s NCAA all-time assist record.” — Matt Norlander (28:36)
• On the NPOY race: “Braden Smith can have similar numbers to last season... but what do you do if Darren Peterson’s averaging 28 and shooting 43% from 3 for a Kansas team?” — Gary Parrish (33:16–34:12)
• “I promise you, I can’t wait to talk about this sport all season long with you GP… Maybe this is just anticipation, but I feel like we are set to have an incredibly rewarding and notable season.” — Matt Norlander (08:24)

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Timeline of Important Segments

• 00:31–08:24: Setting up top contenders, Houston and St. John’s arguments, previewing parity
• 13:59–26:21: Where Parrish & Norlander’s rankings clash: BYU, Kansas, Florida, Texas, Illinois
• 27:48–38:44: Player of the year and All-America debate, national NPOY favorites, freshmen impact
• 40:17–44:26: Coaches ranking debate, reactions to top risers and snubs
• 45:14–46:48: Hosts’ official picks for NPOY, FOY, TOY & DPOY

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Tone & Style Highlights

• Banter is lively, combative but respectful—“I appreciate you not backing off. Sometimes this actually blows up on you and it’s good podcast content.” (10:49, Norlander)
• Both hosts stick to their guns on personal outlier picks.
• Player analysis is rooted in statistics, historic context, and inside info (“the way people talk about [Peterson]…his coaches…really mind-blowing stuff”).

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Useful For

• Anyone wanting to catch up on preseason narratives, surprises, and debates shaping the upcoming NCAA basketball season.
• Fans seeking detailed, passionate breakdowns of team and player projections, plus on-the-record picks and expert insights.
• Those wanting a primer on the most impactful coaches and what to watch for as the season tips off.

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Transcript

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[Matt Norlander]

I got plenty on Houston. What would you say is a usual number of title contenders entering into a season? Out of curiosity, what's the number that you'd place that at? Going in?

[Gary Parish]

I Think typically you can look at say the preseason AP poll and how many different teams got first place votes in this year. That's four and sometimes it can be as small as two.

[Matt Norlander]

Yeah, I'd say a typical year for going in. I did. That's feel bigger to me personally. It feels like a wider number. I've got Houston at one. My preseason top five goes Houston, Purdue, then Kentucky, Michigan and then Duke. We'll get to some of those teams in just a little bit here. Season is almost here and we are super excited to just lay out a ton to set the table for next Monday when we will, we will tip off the season. But why Houston for me at number one? It's really not that complicated. It's the most consistent program. It's finished four years at number two at Ken Palm, it's finished five straight seasons in the top five. And GP, even if you go back two more years, over the past seven years it's been top 15. No other coach, no program in the country can match that period. So it has been the most consistent program overall. Sampson practically has a winning mandate baked into his DNA of this program as much or more than any other team, program, school in the country. That's not the biggest reason I have Houston at number one. But obviously all of that what I just laid out plays a a major, major factor. The amount of times I have seen Houston over the past half decade just SAP the will out of an opponent in the final 10 minutes of the game practically can't be counted. They don't win every game, but in every game they sign up for 40 and they play 40 and they win almost every single time. More reasons. Three core pieces are back and it's not just that they have three back, it's actually who they bring back. Milo Suzanne turns 23 in a couple of months. He's going to run the offense. He returns. Emmanuel Sharp, also a senior, a ton of experience. It started almost 70 games for Houston and he has as much motivation as basically anyone in the sport. After the ball was in his hands and Houston did not even get a shot off to win the national championship because of him. I love him to roar back and have a tremendous season. And then Joseph Tugler is ridiculous as a defender, he might be the best one in the entire sport. So because he is as versatile of a defender as anyone that Kelvin Sampson's ever had, that's another reason. And then the last one is the class coming in and we'll see how much burn these guys get. I think it's going to be a much different situation in Mars and early in the season. But big man Chris Cenacle, he's a top 10 prospect. You've got two guards that are top 20 prospects. Kingston Fleming, Isaiah Harwell. These are guys that have potential one and done futures and certainly NBA futures. Overall, it's by far his best freshman class since he's gotten to Houston. So the combination of projected NBA talent in addition to how many pieces beyond the Core 3 I just mentioned, that's why for me, it really wasn't a tough call to put Houston number one.

[Gary Parish]

Houston, you'll get no argument from me. They are going to be a lot of people's pick for all of the reasons you've just laid out and others. Purdue is the other, like, favorite alongside Houston. Those are the teams that are ranked first and second in the AP poll. When we did our Candid Coaches series this offseason, we got a lot of really positive reaction related to Matt Painter in the Purdue program, Kelvin Sampson and the Houston program. And correct me if I'm wrong, but my sense is that if there's a rooting interest within the sport, within the industry, absolutely. If you're a Kentucky fan, you want Kentucky to do it. If you're an Auburn fan, you want Auburn to do it. If you're a UCLA fan, you want UCLA to do it. But I get the sense within the sport there is like a. A growing sentiment, perhaps just among coaches, but I hear it a lot. I really would like to see Calvin Sampson get one at Houston and. Or I really would like to see Matt Painter get one at Purdue. And those are the two coaches who, at least according to the AP poll, are set up best to do it. Do you. Do you recognize that at all, or am I making it up?

[Matt Norlander]

No, I do. I think that's. I think that's something that's out there. I think that for whatever reason, maybe, maybe people that are actually following the sport, maybe they're not. You know, aside from rooting for your own team, I don't know if there's a. I don't know if the sentiment around Houston and Kelvin Sampson and this is a coach who one time was run out of the sport for cheating and around Matt Painter who's had some very infamous losses, I don't feel like, like a lot of people are rooting for the Blue Jays to win the World Series. I don't know if that same sentiment is carrying over to that level with either of these teams. But within the sport, within the coaching ranks, Yes, I would, I would say overwhelmingly people are looking for Sampson, you know, 70 years old now to get his first and painter in his mid-50s to get his first. But while those two teams I think statistically are the most likely to be considered to be the best team in the country, to extend out what you let off the show with GP, I just don't view this as a two team race. You know, Yukon also in there. St. John's isn't in my top five or even in my top eight, but I would put them in there as well. There's just a litany, a variety of teams. Florida clearly the reigning champions in there. We'll get to again a lot more of these teams as the hour goes along. But personally I don't view this as a, as a two team, one tier race. I would put the likes of Kentucky and Michigan and duke and potentially UConn in there as well to be as viable and legitimate as a national title contender entering into the season. So to me, big picture, this does feel like a fairly, a fairly wide open race as we start. And I promise you, I can't wait to talk about the this sport all season long with UGP here on CBS Sports Network and on the pod because to me, maybe this is just the anticipation of the season and I just cannot wait for us to get to Monday night. Get me to ball please, as quickly as possible. I feel like we are set to have just an incredibly rewarding and notable season just filled with storylines because I think the talent and the team level combined is going to be as good as anything we've seen in the past seven, eight or seven or eight years.

[Gary Parish]

It's got the potential to be that. We'll explain further why as this show progresses. You mentioned St. John's I want to circle back to them. As you know, I do the top 25 and one all off season. I update in real time without the benefit of any computer rankings to guide me. I'm really just.

[Matt Norlander]

Which I like. I like that though. You do that. I like that you do that and you stick to your guns.

[Gary Parish]

I'm working off pen and paper and whatever is left up here. And so at some point after the season's over and St. John's is your outright Biggie's champions and you know, obvious national title contender, even if they're run in the NCAA tournament. Tournament ended earlier than most thought, you see what Rick Patino is able to do in the transfer portal. He's able to bring back Zubie Edge of Four at one point he adds Ian Jackson, the former five star prospect who is from New York but played his freshman season at North Carolina. Rick Patino himself describes Ian Jackson as the quote, next great St. John's point guard. So I'm like, all right, this sounds great. You've got probably the Big east preseason player of the year in your front court. You got St. John's next great point guard. You've got enough other stuff in the transfer portal where I can reasonably call your roster the most talented roster in the country. That's the number one team. St. John's is number one in the top 25 and one. And I felt good about it and almost everything I've heard since then has made me feel less good about it. I'm sticking to my guns, perhaps, perhaps stupidly, but I am going to stick to my guns here. But a lot of my basis was tied to not just having a really talented roster, but the pieces fitting well together. And now it's unclear how much the pieces fit well together. Case in point, Ian Jackson, previously described as the next great St. John's point guard by St. John's head coach, is no longer even called a point guard. He was actually nominated for the shooting guard award in college basketball and isn't expected to be St. John's point guard going forward. That's all stuff that's just happened this offseason. I still love the talent. I trust that Rick Patino, one of the greatest basketball minds and coaches of all time, will figure it out. But if I'm being hand to heart honest, I'm a little more concerned today than I was, say the day that Rick was calling Ian Jackson the next great St. John's point guard.

[Matt Norlander]

You're going, you're going into it, you know, big on St. John's around the break here, we're going to get into some teams that we, that we differ on. We can just touch on St. John's right now specifically because GP has the Johnny's at one, I have him 10. And I still think I would put St. John's and Florida, those are the two teams that I have in that range that are at the, I consider Anyone that was BMI, say top 11 to be a national title contender going into the season. But we'll see how it goes for you. I think you've got a decent chance at being right St. John's coming off its best season in a generation, if not two, depending on how you want to define that term. And after the way it ended in the NCAA tournament, just St. John's going to be a much better team on offense all around this season, and I'm very interested to see how Patino, who's, you know, just about as good a coach as anyone in the sport, handles it. But, but I appreciate you not backing off sometimes. This actually blows up on you and it's, it's really good podcast content. So I'm good either way. If you're right, that's awesome. You're going to have held off the haters and then proven to be correct or this is going to go really badly for you and our listeners and viewers will let you know and, and that will be good for the show.

[Gary Parish]

There's a pattern throughout my life, dating all the way back to childhood, where stubbornness does not serve me well. Perhaps I should have learned my lesson before I lost all my hair, but here I here I am again. Like, if I'm being completely honest, if I were going to switch anything, it would be Purdue. I think Purdue is the safest pick among all legitimate national title contenders. Just safe. I don't have any doubt they're going to be there at the end, but if I were to switch to Purdue, now I'm just switching to what everybody else already has. And so then if Purdue actually does it, I didn't do anything except follow everybody else. Meantime, with St. John's they didn't get a single first place vote in the AP poll. I am by myself on this one. Rick Patino, I'm putting my trust in you. Don't let me down. When we come back, we'll discuss some teams that Norlander and I are very different on. I love byu. He doesn't seem to as much. He's super high on Kansas. I'm a little lower. We'll talk through all of that next. This is the Ion College Basketball Podcast. We're on CBS Sports Network.

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[Gary Parish]

Welcome back to the Ion College Basketball Podcast. We're here on CBS Sports Network Norlander. Let's discuss a few teams that we are pretty different on on paper in this preseason. Let's start with BYU. Out of the Big 12, I got the Cougars third based on what they brought back, what they brought in both in the transfer portal and and in the freshman class, of course, the star expected to be AJ DeBonsa, the five star freshman from New England. You've got BYU all the way down at 15th in your top 101 teams. What concerned you about the Cougars?

[Matt Norlander]

It's not such I think it's just more about you being higher than me being lower here. And reminder to everyone watching in real time on television, we appreciate you for tuning in. Or if you're watching after the fact, go to CBSSports.com check GP's top 25 and 1. In fact, I think that'll get a boost and a refresh here in advance of Monday. And my top 101 teams list you can find on the CBS Sports app or CBSSports.com if you want to compare and see where GP and I differ, particularly in our top 25 teams. But you've got BYU all the way up at 3. I think you're higher than on BYU than just about anyone. So as you said on previous episodes, St. John's BYU debance of the whole deal, you're ride or die with them. And and I think this could work out for you. I still have BYU improving from a season ago. It finished 26 at Ken Palm. I just want to see how the defense is like you've got the Cougars at three. Well, this was a team that was 82nd in defensive efficiency at Ken Palm. And universally if you look at all the metrics across the board, it was just not a top 70 defense in the country last season. If you're going to be a top three team in the country, I think you probably or almost definitely need to be a top 30 defense. Now there's a world if you told me that BYU actually wound up being the best offense in the country, I could see that happening. But even still, if you're going to do that and be a top three team. You can't be the 70th best defense. It just won't work out. The math won't work that way. Can this team jump to top 40 in defensive efficiency? I think it's got a good shot. That's why I have them 15th, which is still plenty high. And I would still rank BYU as a Final Four contender. But I do think it's more about your bullishness than my bearishness on the Cougars.

[Gary Parish]

Okay, let me argue my side then, because you mentioned that they finished 26th at Ken Palm last season. That's a fact. This is also a fact over the final eight weeks of the season. And you probably remember because I made this point on the podcast many times as we were heading toward March. BYU over the final eight weeks of the season, which is not a small sample size, like that's a pretty good chunk of college basketball. They were ranked seventh in the country. About bartorvic.com over the final eight weeks of the season, behind only in order Duke, Houston, Florida, Auburn, Gonzaga and Alabama down the stretch. This was one of the best teams in the country legitimately. And I think I could argue that they bring back two starters, replace three. And the three players that they bring in to replace three outgoing starters, I think they upgraded at every position. I think Rob Wright will be a better college basketball player at point guard this season than what BYU had at point guard last season, regardless of where he's eventually drafted.

[Matt Norlander]

That was an NBA draft pick just over Jaeger Demon, right?

[Gary Parish]

Yes, yes, yes. But I think Rob Wright as a sophomore can be better.

[Matt Norlander]

I agree with you. I think he will be a better college basketball player than Jaeger Demon was. I agree with that.

[Gary Parish]

There we go. I think Canard Davis is an upgrade at the 2, and nobody's going to try to argue about AJ DeBonsa. You bring back Richie Saunders, who's an experienced scorer on that wing in the middle. Kiba Keda. I mean, that's a. I think that's a team that was playing like a top 10 team in the country down the stretch last season and upgraded the roster. That, that's my, that's my explanation. But obviously there's plenty of examples throughout the history of sports where you can upgrade a roster on paper, but you don't get the same caliber team. But I'm trusting that BYU is going to be the biggest threat to Houston in the Big 12 and a legitimate threat to go to the Final Four. And if they do that like this is that hyperbole. BYU right now has a chance to have the best men's basketball team it has ever had.

[Matt Norlander]

Yeah, no doubt about it. Let's keep it in the Big 12 here. I've got Kansas seventh. You've got them, I think 18 or about there. I am going high on. I think I'm higher than on Kansas, than anyone. You'll find it's because I've got Darren Peterson leading the charge. If you've been listening to the pod recently, this is not news, we're not breaking news. But we even have even more Darren Peterson love coming before the end of the show. Between that Florida dunga. I think becoming one of the breakout sophomores in the country and I just. And again could be wrong. Preseason, let's have some fun. Let's shoot our shot. I just, I don't want to believe that Bill Self is going to have three consecutive inarguable, underachieving teams. He's. He did it the past two seasons when Kansas was preseason number one. They flopped to their expectation. And so now understandably, like they. They lost plenty of pieces. There's some transfers coming in. You know, a lot of people don't know who Melvin Council Jr. Is, but he's going to be a good player, I assure you of that. But I understand why Kansas, for the most part has been slotted into that like 15 to 20ish range. I zag against that. I'm going Kansas number seven. I'm going Kansas number two in the Big 12 to Houston. But you're more with the Herd, so to speak, on this one. You've got KU sitting there on the, on the back half of the teams.

[Gary Parish]

Yeah, but I like you going in this direction. I mean, what are you really doing trusting one of the greatest college basketball coaches of all time and somebody who is really might be one of the greatest players in the history of the sport before this is all over with. I mean, that's what you're. That's what you. That's what you're aligning yourself with. And there was a point in time. I really do think these past couple of years have just flipped everything on the perception of, I guess, Kansas, but specifically Bill, because there was a point in time I would have, and probably almost anybody would have just had Kansas preseason top 10. I don't even care. Like they're going to be there. They win the Big 12 every year. All right? Like there was years where they lost all five starters and then you'd look up at the ranked number one in the country the next season. And so this shouldn't even really be a thing. But because the past two years have been so bad, not relative to normal standards, but relative strictly to Bill standards at ku. You then looked at the roster this offseason, at least I did. And I was like, okay, I know Peterson's great. El Marcos coming on, El Marco Jackson's coming off of an injury. I like Melvin Camp. My concerns with the, with this team specifically was just the roster is, seems to be lacking. You're asking a lot of people to be, or at least multiple people to be, to be things they've never been before, right? Like you need El Marco Jackson on some level be something he's never been. Florida Badonga on some level to be something he's never been. That was, that was my middle of the summer roster evaluation concern. Here's the truth. I think Darren Peterson is probably better than I properly understood back in the middle of the summer. And the way, the way people are talking about him, the people who see him all the time, his coaches, is just really like mind blowing stuff. They think they've got something just for some context. Like Norlander said, if you guys are regular listeners to the pod, you've heard this stuff before. But Bill Self has coached a number one pick in the draft in Andrew Wiggins and an NBA mvp and Joel Embiid and is on record. Darren Peterson's the most equipped, best, most talented, ready to go freshman I've ever had in my program. That's who we're talking about here. And I think there's a scenario where he is just so awesome and, and Bill feeling better than he's ever felt, or at least better than he's felt in years after two recent heart procedures. Looking better, feeling better. I don't think it's crazy for you to go out on this limb to the extent that it's a limb because again, you're really just asking one of the greatest coaches and one of the greatest players to be great together. They might be able to do it.

[Matt Norlander]

Let's, let's take a stroll and do a few more teams here because when I do my top 101 list, I do my best. Like I have a general awareness of some of Paris's stuff because throughout the off season or summer shoot arounds, I'm going to catch on. But I try and tunnel vision myself as much as possible. And then I was like, once I get done with the list, okay, where did we differ? There are two fan bases that have found me with A fury one is Providence because I don't have the Friars in my top 50. Providence fans, I genuinely love you. Your passion is amazing. The other one's Florida. Predictably so. It's Florida is my Auburn of this year, although I'm not nearly. I have Florida second in the SEC. I just have the Gators sitting at number 11 now. GP has Florida, I think at number six overall. My concerns are just with the backcourt like Boogie Fland. We had him easily in our top 101 players. Sure. I just with him and Xavian Lee, they have to replace the best backcourt in the history of Florida's program. And I say that knowing all too well what they did in 06 and 07. If you look at collectively what will Richard Walter Clayton Jr. And Elijah Martin did last year, I think that's the best three person backcourt Florida's ever had. So I just have some relative concerns not to put Florida 3, 4, 5, 6 or 7. I've got them at number 11. It's a competitive 11 and I've got them there overall. Really we can be quick on on Florida overall, but they were definitely worth addressing here just because I think I might be quote unquote fading them by not having them three, four or five versus everyone else. You've got them at six.

[Gary Parish]

I think they're a better candidate to repeat as national champions than UConn was to repeat as national champions heading into last season. The front court's loaded. I mean you bring those guys back and most people think Thomas Hauck is going to take a jump. He was obviously terrific during Florida's run to the national championship and even though he was a six man coming off the bench, you can reasonably argue he is Florida's best front court player. The only concern I playing a slightly if not entirely different role this season. They want him to be a small forward and that's not really what he was asked to do in a three guard lineup last season. So Florida is going to be bigger across 3, 4, 5 because they're going to be bigger at the 3. But like is that where he's the most effective? I I say that's a concern. It's just like I'm curious to find out like Todd and his staff are smart enough. They'll if it doesn't work, they'll adjust. They'll figure it out. They know what they're doing. But that's an interesting thing to keep an eye on early the I both things can be true. You're going to miss Walter Clayton, you just are. But I don't think they could have done a better job realistically replacing the backcourt that they were going to lose. Like, they did a really good job replacing the backcourt, not even looking at the high school. Like, let's go get experienced, older transfers, plug and play guys that can set us up to compete for the sec, compete for the Final Four, compete for the national title. And I, I think they've done that. They've positioned themselves to repeat as national champions. But like, Walter Clayton was the most dynamic guard in the sport last season, and you don't lose something like that and just not, not miss it at all.

[Matt Norlander]

Before we wrap here, just to two teams with orange in their color scheme, I wanted to touch on that. We have differences on. GP has Texas in his preseason top 25. I put the Longhorns at 34 overall. It is purely a function of. Because I actually think Sean Miller is a quality coach. They bring back some, some good pieces. They bring back. Actually, I was going to say Mark and Pope. They don't bring back Mark, but Jordan Pope and Tremond Mark. GP's got him top 25. And then I think one of the more glaring differences is Parrish has Illinois at 24. Now, that's not. I think he's a little bit down on Illinois relative. And I'm high. I've got Illinois at number nine. I am totally riveted by what that roster is with a variety of players that are coming back and then the international flavor that's coming in, I think that's going to be tremendous. So I know we got to hit the break here in just a second, but I just want to at least bring up those two as well. I like that we're not in lockstep on all of them, and I can guarantee you that within the first three weeks of the season, we're going to discover real quick that I was off on a couple of these. GP might be as well, but. But yeah, man. Season's right around the corner.

[Gary Parish]

All right, when we come back, we will turn our attention to the national Player of the Year race. Purdue senior Braden Smith is regarded by most as the favorite. He did top our list of the top 101 players in college basketball. But, buddy, if he's going to hold the trophy at the end of the season, he's going to have to hold off an incredible freshman class. Plus, you know, a J.T. toppin, a Donovan Dent, you name them. Interesting Player of the year race. We'll dive into it next. It's the Iowan College Basketball Podcast.

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[Gary Parish]

Welcome back. I own college Basketball podcast Norlander let's talk players. The freshman class is loaded, loaded, loaded. At least three guys that are in contention to be the number one overall pick in the 2026 NBA Draft. But the favorite, at least right now according to most, is produce senior Braden Smith to be the Wooden Award winner, the Naismith Award winner, the CBS Sports National Player of the Year. I guess I'll ask it this way. Do you really believe that a little guard who might not get drafted, great as he is at this level is going to be able to hold off Darren Peterson, AJ DeBonsa, Cameron Boozer and whoever else emerges to actually become Purdue's latest national player of the Year after Zach Eaty won back to back awards?

[Matt Norlander]

I don't think it's going to happen. If you're watching, you can see our top 10. This is according to our collective voting. Feels good. By the way, to talk about this. I put so much effort and thought into my own top 101 player. Listen and we finally get to talk about it on the podcast. I'll. I'll read it off here for anyone listening after the fact. Braden Smith is 1, Darren Peterson's two toppins 3. Boozer at Duke is 4, AJ Debance is 5, Donovan Den at UCLA is 6, Trey Kaufman run a 7. Michigan transfer Yaxel Lindenborg is 8, Otega away of of Kentucky is 9 and then Milo Suzanne is 10. As you look at that list right there and you hear the names that I just read off, I do not think that Braden Smith will hold off on a very, very good crop of Players, even some outside of 10 list who could factor in overall as well didn't even get to guys like LeBaron, Filon to Hod Pettiford. Those are in the SEC and they're going to be able to, are going to be relied upon to carry their teams who could have good seasons. P.J. hagerty is another big one that we put on our all America team. GP I don't think so. I do think Braden Smith will be drafted. I think he's going to have an amazing season. I think he's going to be the first, first team All American and I think he's going to beat Bobby Hurley's NCAA all time assist record which has stood for more than three decades. But personally on my list I voted for Darren Peterson as the preseason player of the year. I voted for, I actually had Darren Peterson number one on my just best players. And when we talk about national player of the year, who versus who the best player is, that doesn't always necessarily line up because national player of the year is typically the best player on usually a team that's a one seed level kind of team. You could be an amazing player but if you happen to be playing for say a team that's on the five line, it's much harder for you to get national player of the year status. I think we could very well see that with a player like PJ Haggerty who plays for K State could lead the country in scoring this season. Don't know if he'll factor in truly to the national player of the year conversation. When it comes to the best players overall, how I looked at it was okay if you like, if you took all the high major coaches in the sport and they said okay, you get to start your player right now with one, with one guy, who are you picking over all others. I believe that they would choose Darren Peterson over Braden Smith. So I had on my list of the best players in the sport I put Peterson one. I put Cameron Boozer too. I think Cameron Boozer with everything that he's going to do, we're talking about a dude who just had 24 and 23 granted in an exhibition game GP but that's ridiculous. And then I had, I had Braden Smith three on my list followed by DeBance at four and Topping at five. Now my top five is also our site's top five, but it's a different order. Did you put Braden Smith Number one on your list or did you go with DeBancer or anyone else?

[Gary Parish]

I went with Braden Smith Because I think he's got a real shot to do it. I think he's maybe the safest pick to do it because we don't have to wonder if he's going to be great. He's going to be great and we don't have to wonder if his team's going to be good. His team's going to be good. Like, I know you think Darren Peterson's team is going to be good, but not everybody is as certain. I know. I think AJ debance, his team is going to be really good, but not everybody is as certain. Nobody disagrees on Braden Smith and nobody disagrees on Purdue. And to your earlier point, yes, I think the team stuff does matter because I don't have any hard and fast rules. But like, if you're not even on a top 25 team, I'm probably not considering you for national player of the year. You know, you've got to. It's got to be a combination of excellence individually and really good stuff with your team. And Braden Smith is going to check both of those boxes with his eyes closed. He averaged last season 15.8 points, 8.7 assists, and that gets him up to 758 career assists. Just some numbers here. If he averages 8.7 assists again, exact same thing he did last season and appears in 37 games, which is clearly possible for a program like Purdue, he will break Bobby Hurley's all time assist record. So he's going to have that going for him too. So he's going to be chasing a historically relevant record on presumably one of the best teams while putting up all American numbers. That's a good place to start. My concern for him would be what happens when Darren Peterson averages 27 points per game for a Kansas team that's 10 top 10 in the country? Because that might happen. Or what happens when Cameron Boozer is averaging 19 and 13 for a Duke dude? It's in the top 10. Or what happens? Inevitable. Yeah, one of them is going to pop like this. And they could all three, they've all three had moments already in like exhibitions where it's like, oh, buddy, here comes Kevin Durant, here comes Michael Beasley, here comes Cooper.

[Matt Norlander]

Flag.

[Gary Parish]

Here comes Anthony Davis. Like we got three of them dudes. At least, at least in college basket. At least. It may be more at least in college basketball. And so I guess I'd bottom line it this way. Braden Smith can have similar numbers to last season, let's say six. Let's just round up 16 points, nine assists, breaks Bobby Hurley's record. Purdue wins the Big Ten and is a 1 seed in the tournament. But what do you do if Darren Peterson's averaging 28 and shooting 43% from 3 and doing it for a Kansas team that just finished one game back of Houston in the Big 12 and is a 2 seed in the NCAA tournament? My fear for Braden Smith, to the extent that I think about this stuff at all that way, would be his excellence might just get trumped by a generational talent. That, that's, that and that's what you're betting on, right?

[Matt Norlander]

Yes. And I will go on the record. If Darren Peterson is averaging 28 a game and Kansas is like a top three team in the Big 12, he will be the national player of the year.

[Gary Parish]

28. College is an instant, I mean, I mean I'm just, I'm exact, I'm exaggerating numbers. But I'm saying if Darren Peterson puts together a Kevin Durant type season.

[Matt Norlander]

Yeah.

[Gary Parish]

And Kansas is relevant, then it becomes, it becomes complicated because that, that, that this does happen sometimes in college basketball. Like you're a great college basketball player, an all time great college basketball player, but you're just, you're up against a generational talent. And the generational talent, one year it's Kevin Durant, this year it might be Peterson Boozer. It could be, you know, a few others as well.

[Matt Norlander]

This is what I was talking about earlier in the show. This is why I'm so hyped for the season. I just feel like we are going to run in gp. Were talking about this when we were together eating dinner down in Kansas City at Big 12 media day. I just, I, I, I'm anticipating weekly podcasts where we are just reacting to and gushing over the talent level and some of the big time performances we're going to get even from. Like I mentioned Pettiford and Phylon. Like those guys are going to absolutely pop. Bennett Sturts, who I did not actually personally put in my top 20 player list because I think he's a really, really good point guard and he's getting NBA looks. He finished 11th on our list, but he could be good enough. I have Iowa in my top 30. He could be, he could actually in the same conference as Braden Smith, really give Smith a run for his money in terms of pure point guard play. That's going to be a ton of fun. Darren Williams at NC State, previously at Texas Tech. What's he going to do to Pop there? There's a lot of, there's a lot of intriguing Stuff out there. So many good talents. I think Bruce Thornton will be knocking on the door of being a potential top 10 player to Ohio State as well. But before we get out of the segment, GP who is a guy or two or three to you? Like they didn't, they didn't make our CBS Sports preseason All America team. They didn't make ours jointly. But they were on your ballot who you could see getting there by the, by the end of March. I got a couple. I assume you do as well.

[Gary Parish]

Yeah, I mean I would start that list probably with let's say solo ball at UConn. UConn's expected to be really good again. Got a one seed or got, got a first place vote in the preseason AP poll. So an opportunity to win a third national title in a four year span. And if they are competing for that, I think solo ball is going to be a big part of it. And I could see him popping on some all American teams. Josh Hubbard down at Mississippi State, like that just comes down to like how good is Mississippi State? Is Mississippi State ranked 13th in the country? Josh Hubbard will be an all American. All right. Is Mississippi State ranked? You know, are they sitting at 37 at KenPom? Well, then it becomes a different conversation. But he's gonna score and that team's got a chance to be good. And then if you're looking for another freshman, you can go. Darius Acuff at, at Arkansas. Nate ament at 10 but one I would pay attention to. Ball's going to be in his hands a lot and he's going to be on a team that's expected to be good. Michael Brown Jr. At Louisville, a projected one and done lottery pick. Who you know, if Louisville's really good, he's going to play a big role in it. And that's how you get on All American teams.

[Matt Norlander]

You have another freshman who could be just a ton of fun to watch. Louisville's got. It's amazing. It's so happy for Louisville to be entering into a season where they have final four expectations. We are in lockstep on Solar Ball. I believe I had him on my ballot as a preseason 13 Mall American, which wasn't an easy call because they've got caravan there. Terrorist re can actually do some damage as well. But I do think Ball will be the most valuable player on that UConn team. A couple guys that I've got. I had Bruce Thornton as a preseason second team all American. Just mentioned him for Ohio State. You look at actually what he did last season. Both in traditional sticks statistics, excuse me, and advanced metrics, extremely valuable. I think he's the most underrated player in the sport and if Ohio State's a top 25 level team, I do think he'll be an All American. I also had Phylon in Alabama, one of the fastest players in the sport. Like him and Dent can really. They're just bursts, man. And I think Bama is going to be a top three team in the sec and I think Phylon is going to jump. He very easily and very closely went to the NBA, turned back at the last minute and then, you know, a guy who I was actually surprised didn't make our All America team was Thomas Hauck. Now maybe it's because I don't know if he didn't make enough third teams. Again, Florida's got the situation where they've got this loaded front court boogie. Flan's a good player, so the votes might have canceled out. Alex Condon, to our shock, was a preseason AP first team All America. To me that's a stretch. I think Hauk is the, is Florida's best player. He's the other guy where if I'm going to be wrong on Florida, GP and most others are going to be right and that's going to be the best team in the sec. Hauk's probably going to be the best player. And if that's the case, you would have to think that the Gators are going to get an All American. So Hauk would be my nomination there.

[Gary Parish]

I'm not sure how many people knew who Thomas Hauck was until March of last year. Right. I mean, he's just a guy coming off of, of Florida's bench. You know, that was his label for, for much of the season and then obviously he took a bit of a star turn in the bracket. But yeah, we'll see who emerges as, as Florida's best player. But, but clearly he's a candidate to, to, to do that. And if Florida is going to be good, like you said, they're going to play somebody on an All American team. And, and he seems to be as reasonable as an option as, as anybody else at this point. When we come back, I want to talk to you a little bit about because we at CBS Sports in a panel of writers and analysts actually did a top 25 and one of current men's college basketball coaches and Dan Hurley and Kelvin Sampson came out one, two in that voting. Any problem with that? That's what I'm gonna ask you right after this break. Norlander we're watching it's the Allen College Basketball Podcast. We're on CBS Sports Network.

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[Gary Parish]

Good luck. Welcome back. I own College Basketball Podcast. We're here on CBS Sports Network and in recent days we conducted a poll among ourselves, writers and analysts at CBS Sports and said, hey, just give me a ballot. 25 plus one. Let's do the top 25. And one of current men's college basketball coaches, the great Marcus Nelson, got all of our votes. He tabulated. This is what it spit out. Number one, Dan Hurley at UConn, number two, Kelvin Sampson at Houston, number three, Rick Patino at St. John's Bill Self at Kansas at number four and Matt Painter at Purdue at number five. I don't know Norlander, that I would have that order exactly, but that top five, that makes sense to me. Does that look like a good top five to you?

[Matt Norlander]

Got no issue with it. Want to say that's my top five. But I had Hurley 1, Samson 2, Self 3, Patino 4, Painter 5. I think that's what I sent in as my top five there. But no, yeah, no issues there. Oats, you know, oats, golden is a few and Drew finish out the top 10. And then beyond that, you've got, you got a variety of coaches. You know, John Shire not too far off the, off the mark there overall, which makes sense. I had Shire actually In my top 10 considering the, the lift of, of what comes with coaching Duke overall. But no, not no big thing. I will say overall for the, for our list. The coach that it was that did not make it that I had in my top 20 was Brian Dutcher at San Diego State. He didn't even make the list. I would say that's collectively a whiff. On behalf of our staff. I think Dutcher is inarguably a top 25 coach in the sport. So he didn't make it. Plus, I had Sean Miller and Dana Altman on my ballot, but they didn't make it. So that means I had three that. That weren't on my ballot that made the list. And I did not have Pat Kelsey, Mick Cronin, or the final coach on the list, Ben McCollum, on my personal ballot. McCollum was a tough cut. I know he was on yours. Just want to see how he does at the Big Ten level. He's been amazing at D2, rocked it at Drake, and McCollum is on the back end of the list.

[Gary Parish]

Todd Golden, a big riser from unranked to number seven, if I'm being honest. Like, I got my. About halfway through. I'm just sort of putting it down, trying to look at it. And I was like, hold up. I don't have the guy who just won the national championship in April. I need to. I need to add him in there. And so I jumped him up pretty high. I don't think I had him at seven, but I had him. I had him much higher than he would have been on anybody's ballot last season. And then with Ben McCollum, I mean, I had him 15th. I mean, at some point. I mean, the guy is what he is.

[Matt Norlander]

Can he coach a Big Ten game? First GP he could be number five in a year, but I just want to see him go at the highest level. That's all. That's all.

[Gary Parish]

I mean, you could have. We could. I could have thrown him on the list last year, and you could have said, could he coach an MVC game? First GP and then I'd have been like, all right, let's see how it goes. And you know how it went. So I just think the guy's a special coaching talent. I put him at 15. He came in at 26. But this has never happened and may never happen again as long as we're doing this. He was a Division 2 coach two years ago and now is considered one of the top 30 coaches at the Division 1 level, just like that was at Drake last season. Now taken over the Iowa program. I. I get it if somebody wants to pump the brakes a little bit, but this guy didn't come out of nowhere. He was dominating things at a different level of basketball, came to a. A bigger level, dominated that. And I don't think he's going to come in and dominate the Big Ten, but I don't think he's gonna get. I don't think he's gonna find him. Find himself out of his depths. He's He's a special coaching talent. Most people will tell you that. And I think year one at Iowa is going to be a successful season. Like you said, you've got them in your top 30. I don't think I would, but I would have them projected to make the NCAA tournament.

[Matt Norlander]

I'll be real quick on this. I'll be real quick on this. Dusty May, a big riser. Golden, a big riser. And Pope, Mark Pope, a big riser. Keep in mind, Todd Golden, Mark Pope a year ago at this time had never won an NCAA tournament game. So you do well in the tournament. Obviously it affects your ranking overall. So those were some, some guys who really popped this year ve rankings a year ago.

[Gary Parish]

All right, before we get out of here, got one segment to go and let's get some predictions on the record. Who's going to be the player of the year, the freshman of the year, the transfer of the year? We'll do that next. It's the Island College Basketball Podcast. We're on CBS Sports Network.

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[Gary Parish]

Welcome back. I own College Basketball Podcast. We're here on CBS Sports Network. Before we get out of here, let's do some predictions as you probably picked up on by now. Now I've got St. John's winning the national championship. Fingers crossed. Norlander's got Houston. But who's going to be the national player of the Year, national Freshman of the Year and the national Transfer of the Year? Yeah, that's a thing. Even if we're the ones that made it the thing. Norlander, the floor is yours.

[Matt Norlander]

Okay, floor is mine. This is my opportunity to tease our Sunday night season preview episode that's going to go live on YouTube, obviously in the podcast feeds. If you want our Final Fours and all sorts of other preseason predictions, Sunday extravaganza, be there. Never miss a Sunday show. I have the same player of the year and the freshman of the year. That is Darren Peterson from Kansas. I might have seen an outlet earlier this week give you different players and freshman of the year and both of them being freshmen, which is going to drive Parish up a wall. Not happening here. Aaron Peterson is going to be a stud. He is going to be the guy that gets Kansas into the top 10 and provide one of the better one and done seasons we've seen. And I say that coming off of the flag season a year ago, I don't think he'll be quite at the flag. But if you can go one notch down, put me right there for Darren Peterson, Transfer of the Year I've got Donovan Dent at UCLA narrowly beating out two guys in his conference. The Axel Londonborg at Michigan, who I think is going to be awesome in a stat monster and I actually think Bennett Sturtz is going to be so good he gets Iowa into the top 30 this year. And though GP didn't tee it up, just for official purposes, we have Joseph Tugler at Houston as our preseason defensive player of the year pick. Gp, who do you got?

[Gary Parish]

As I hinted at earlier, I'm just going with Braden Smith at Purdue as the national player of the year. But I am aware he is at risk of one of these generational talents in a one and done year of college could just overwhelm him statistically and in all of the ways guys who are projected to go in the top three in an NBA draft can. Like they're all three special Debanza, Peterson and Boozer. And they're all at like premier college basketball programs that are expected to be really good. Can Braden Smith hold them off? I understand why people are skeptical, but for now I'll stick with them. Freshman of the Year I understand that the Darren Peterson hype. I'm not skeptical of it at all. But I've long been a believer in AJ Debanza. I'm going that way. Transfer of the Year Donovan Dent at UCLA Like Norlander said, Sunday show and then the season gets start Monday. Can't wait. Shouts to Devin Downey, Chester, S.C. terry Teagle, Huck and Larnell. Thank you guys for being here. We'll talk to you again real soon. Now streaming on Paramount + Brandon was the full package.

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