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Matt Norlander
Hey there.
Gary Parrish
I am Gary Parrish. Welcome back to the CBS Sports Eye on College Basketball podcast where we sometimes discuss camel fighting, dodo birds and leaky black. Matt Norlander is here with me. If you're watching on YouTube be Brandon Davies smash the like button. WWBDD what would Brandon Davies do? If you're one of us, let the world know in the chat. Put it in the comments. And if you haven't already subscribe to the CBS Sports Island College Basketball podcast. Please do that wherever you subscribe to podcasts like Apple, Spotify. Let's get into it. Awesome game Thursday night down in Tuscaloosa. The final score Purdue 87, Alabama 80. Three days after the bowler makers were demoted from number one to number two in the AP poll, Matt Painters team entered Coleman Coliseum and left with what is arguably now the best victory anybody has so far this season. They beat a top 10 team on the road. More specifically, they went on the road and beat a top 10 team that had just five days earlier one at St. John's Braden Smith was tremendous. 29 points, seven rebounds, four assists in 34 minutes. Despite being roughly my height, he grabbed at least three more rebounds than every single Alabama player. Norlander, hello to see you on this Friday morning special. Shouts to Oasis. What'd you make of what Purdue did at Alabama last night?
Matt Norlander
Yeah, slip inside the eye of your mind, you know, you might find a better place to play. That was Tuscaloosa for Purdue on Thursday. Really fun game. You mentioned the, the, the rebounds for, for Smith. Oates had a, had a comment after he said, you know, he was praising what, what Smith was doing. He said our, our leading rebounder had four, you know, so just a really good, there's a, there's a number of different angles I want to take here and we got plenty of time because it was the only notable game of the past two nights. But Braden Smith having the kind of performance on the road that reaffirmed his preseason national player of the year status I think is the biggest takeaway. But there's a lot here just to see him step up the way he did. And he did so despite having a six minute stretch in the first half where he, where he got, he got sat and had he had a typical normal game like his stat line would have even been bigger. But the way he commanded the floor getting Trey Kaufman ran back obviously that's also huge and Ren having an immediately impactful game was was major. Purdue gets a seven point margin but the game had 22 lead changes. It had 14 ties. It would have had a closer margin if Alabama could have scored in the in the final minute 40 but it didn't. It was 80 to 80 and then Purdue had the final seven points overall. It was the program's first non conference road win against a top 10 opponent since Louisville in 1982. Good on Purdue which has managed to beat Alabama oh by the way three times in as many years. Three seasons in a row these programs are played in the non conference and all three times Purdue has won in those games. Braden Smith Average 24.3 points, 7.3 assists, 6.0 rebounds. He'd take Alabama every month if he could, but that's not how it goes. I got some more goodies but I'll toss it back to you. What were your thoughts on what transpired down south on Thursday night?
Gary Parrish
Well first NATO's can't get Braden Smith and Tracoff and Wren at a school fast enough because he's been them two been destroying the Crimson died for the past couple of seasons and in Braden's case the past three 29.7 rebounds, four assists. Incredible stat line the four assists. That's no way to break Bobby Hurley's all time assist record. That's going to get you off pace a little bit. I tried to tell you but. But man it's not just the box score. I mean you can look at that and see he was, you know, great. But it's just the way he controlled the entire game. I mean particularly in the second half when they just give him a ball screen and he just gets where he wants to go and he's putting defenders on his back and he's drawing fouls in the final minute. He's just in complete control and I know that this freshman class is amazing and by the time we get to the end of it we could be in a Darren Peterson Cameron Boozer AJ DeBonsa Co Opique Caleb Wilson Debate for National Player of the Year but this is the preseason National Player of the Year and he reminded everybody last night of why he is arguably the best point guard in the country. I think most people would absolutely label him that way, but I'll leave some wiggle room. And he is, he is running what is arguably also the best college basketball team in the country. Even if AP voters, you know, punished them a little bit early Monday morning.
Matt Norlander
Yeah, that was, I think we talked about that on the show. I definitely talked about on hq. Purdue got twice as many first place votes as Houston. But with the way that the points are tallied, you know, when the ballots are sent in, team 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, Houston narrowly jumped Purdue by I think three total points. Not three votes, three points. Points. Be interesting to see if Purdue can rip that, that number, number one ranking back regardless of what happens to Houston. Foreshadowing. We'll get to that in the final four. And one couple more things from the game. Purdue destroyed Alabama on the glass. Two very different kinds of styles for sure. Two different kinds of coaches. That's our poll question right now. If you could have one coach for the next five years, who would you take? Matt Painter and NATO. So we'll get to those results in just a little bit. Let that cook and let our viewers chime in on that poll question. But Alabama only getting 28 total rebounds to produce 52. Then if you go to rebound percentage, which usually tells the story even more accurately, Purdue got 82 1/2% of their defensive rebound. So Alabama's missed shots. And then on their own missed shots, Purdue grabbed 47 and a half percent of those attempts. It did this, it won. It didn't have a single fast break point in the game, which typically, you know, not always, but if you've got a person who should be considered the best point guard in the sport, as valuable as anyone else to win a game on the road against a top 10 opponent with someone that's that in command of an offense and not get a single fast break point is just, it's just wild stuff. Eight Alabama players made at least one three pointer last night. Each team took 66 shots, but 44 of Alabama's were from beyond the arc. They shot 36%. Purdue was more accurate with, you know, not quite as many shots. Trekaufman Ren having his debut and going off was, was the other part of it. Smith was the most important player on the floor, but Coffin Run was in a meet like the game started and he was champing at the bit. He was an absolute beast. Credit to ESPN Stats and Information which sent this out late on Thursday. TKR is the third player in the last 30 seasons to have at least 15 points, 15 rebounds and five assists in an AP top 10 matchup. Not even necessarily on the road, but he was here. Joe Forte which is a great throwback. Joe Forte, one of my favorite players ever. He did it in 2001 for Carolina and then Tim Duncan did it in 96 for Wake Forest. So Kaufman ren doing what he did like as the game was playing out not knowing who was going to win when he was such an immediately impactful player. GP last night I'm watching this. I'm going okay. Is Purdue really going to have two of the 10 best players in the sport this season? Because that was on the table going in. We see TKR immediately just becoming a force and if that's going to be the case then you know Purdue's preseason number one ranking is going to age extremely well. I think Purdue has the best win of the first two weeks of the season. The sport you could have said it was Alabama but Alabama just lost at home to Purdue. Bama got their win against St. John's this was a true road environment. Louisville's win over Kentucky was really nice but that one was at home. Arizona got a really nice win to open the season against Florida. That was on a neutral floor. No one has a road win. I think of the level of Purdue again we're not even two full weeks in but but really really impressed there. What else stood out to you from the game?
Gary Parrish
Well first just I agree with you. I think they've got now the best win of any team in the country and that means that Barrington an Akron upset this weekend.
Matt Norlander
Right.
Gary Parrish
Purdue is going to be 4 and oh with the best win in the country on Monday and still might not be number one even though they were preseason number one. This is wildly unusual stuff. I would encourage the I don't really care. The AP voters can do whatever they want. I'm over that. Life's too short. But they they they looked like they reminded folks again just Braden Smith reminded folks why he was the preseason national player of the year. Purdue reminded folks why they preseason number one team in the AP poll. The offensive rebounding was obviously incredible. 19 offensive boards if you remember Purdue was top 10 in the country in offensive rebounding percentage in both years that Zach Edie won the Wooden Award and the second he left the program and then Daniel Jacobson got hurt early last season. They really struggled to to maintain any sort of advantage on the offensive glass. I think they dropped to 123rd in the country in in offensive rebounding percentage last season. Last night tremendous again and some of that is is because Trey Kaufman ran I think is is playing with a another big instead of being the big and he's better in this role. I like him here, the way he was very early. Like, it took him no time to get comfortable, even though he had missed the first two games of the season. He's catching the ball at the elbow. He's facing up. He's got that little jump hook that looks like is reliable. He's just an awesome college player. And 19, 15 and five last night you put the historical standards on it. 26 and eight against Alabama last season. So he gave it to him two years in a row. Nate Oats in his postgame last night talked about Purdue's defensive approach. They like really packed it in and said, all right, Alabama, like, if you want to take 44 threes, take 44 threes. We're going to trust that you're not going to make a good enough percentage of them, but we're going to try not to give you any. Anything at the rim. We're going to try to take away the driving lanes, force you to kick it out and make shots. And they just didn't make enough of them. I mean, they made 16. That's a big raw number. But 16 of 44 is not. I mean, it's a. It's a fine percentage, but it obviously wasn't enough to get them there. But they can get it points from beyond the arc in a lot of different places. As you pointed out, they. I think they had 10 made threes in the first half, which was interesting. 10 made threes in the first half and you're down a bucket. That's not normal. But then six different Alabama players, by my count, made a three in the first 16 minutes of the game. So they've got guys who can shoot it. They. Last night the percentage was a little lower than I think they'd like to be. And with the way Braden Smith was able to control things down the stretch, Purdue gets out of there with a big, big win.
Matt Norlander
And if you're watching, you can see the box core here. LeBaron Filon, 11 points, 1 to 6 from deep box. Or does tell the story here, just not the level of impact that I frankly expected. He is too good of a player, too fast of a player, too good of an athlete. Now that speaks to Purdue's preparedness, painters coaching, all of that. I just thought he would be more impactful. Aiden Holloway showed up. He had 21 points, had a number of big buckets as the, as the game went along. Taylor Bull Bowen had some nice, some nice moments there. Aiden Cherelle as well. But I thought Phylon was going to show up bigger than he did. It just didn't happen. And you know the kind of game for you know, for a sophomore. Okay, you had a big time opponent in your building. It didn't go your way. Good learning opportunity. And Alabama is going to have so many games. In fact Alabama is just loaded right now in terms of their schedule. They might have a stretch here that is unmatched in the sport this season. Parrish so they just played St. John's they get Purdue, next is Illinois, then it's Gonzaga at the players era. They'll play UNLV in their second game in the players era and then they'll have another game which will be a high major opponent and then after that they will play Clemson. So count them up. Johnny's Purdue, Illinois, Gonzaga will nudge UNLV out of there. An undetermined players era and Clemson that is six out of seven games in the non conference against high major opponents. And not just that all except two of them are away from their building. I don't think there's a team in the God bless NATO. I mean that's, that's madman scheduling but he's just not scared. Purdue is five, Purdue is five at Ken Palm. Illinois is four, Gonzaga's three. That's the next three opponents as well. On the whole maybe UConn a couple other teams might have a tougher non conference schedule overall but in terms of a stretch right now like Alabama is in it, they're not going to get out of November with fewer than at least they've got one, they're going to have at least two. And if you told me it was three or four I'd believe you. But because of the way that they play I still like even if like let's say they get dropped against Illinois next week. They managed to beat Gonzaga in Vegas but then lose it. They go one and two with the players era. I still under if they can beat Clemson, not have an issue with UNLV. They already have the win at St. John's I'd still probably overall consider Alabama to be like top 15 caliber. The schedule is just a beast. So just keep that, keep an eye on that as we as we turn ahead with the tide there. They are about to endure the toughest November of any team in the country. Swing it back to Purdue real quick. Just a couple more goodies. You mentioned the bigs. I thought clough just an immediate fit. Like to see him against a high level opponent doing what he did. I was like this is gonna work if they stay healthy. You know a lot of, a lot of the Purdue can be the best team in the country. And seeing how that all comes together, it crystallized. And that's even with like Fletcher Lawyer having an okay game like they didn't play at their absolute max capacity. Just a lot of stuff to be really inspired from there. And then Josh, if you have it, toss up the Hummel tweet on the screen. I actually went and got even more information from Chris Foreman who does a great job with, with, with Purdue. So Robbie Hummel who I think played at Purdue got a fact check that he tossed up a, a tweet last night that showed the last four years worth of non conference wins for Purdue with, with the tkr Braden Smith, Fletcher Lawyer class. So you can see that there's even more though. So this group, this Purdue class dating back to their first year, they have taken out 11 teams away from home in the non conference. That also accounts for NCAA tournament games. You're not, you're not home. Those teams that were ranked heading into the tournament and if you factor in the road wins in league play, they have 14 total wins against ranked opponents. Away from Mackey, it's just, it's outstanding. And that, that it's 14 now. It's conceivable that by the end of their NCAA tournament on whenever it gets, they're going to have at least 20 wins away from home against ranked competition speaks to obviously the culture there having those players. I know a couple people in the chat mentioned this morning the fact that you have Lawyer and Smith, they enter together. They've, they've been for your starters alongside. This is just a rarity but you can stay at the course, have a really, really good coach. These are the benefits to all of that. So that was a good observation by Hummel and then I dug a little bit deeper there. If you want the teams, It's Gonzaga in 22, Duke in 22, Gonzaga in 23, Tennessee in 23, Marquette in 23, Arizona in 23 when Arizona was number one, Utah State in 24 in the tournament, Gonzaga in the tournament in 24, Tennessee in the tournament in 24, Ole Miss last November and then Alabama on, on Thursday night. Those are the non cons. They also beat Ohio State, Wisconsin and Illinois on the road since tkr, Braden Smith and Fletcher Lawyer got to campus.
Gary Parrish
Now I put it in the top 25 and one since Braden Smith and Fletcher Lawyer entered the program in the previous three years, it's two Big Ten regular season titles, one Big Ten tournament title, three straight NCAA tournament appearances, two Sweet 16s, a trip to the national title game, and obviously this season they can add another Big Ten regular season title, they can reasonably add another Big Ten tournament title, and they can reasonably add another trip to the Final Four, perhaps, perhaps, maybe even the national championship. You ran through Alabama schedule, which is ridiculous. For Purdue, it is now Akron this weekend. The next week they go to the Bahamas and they'll be at the Baha Mar Championship. They get Memphis first. In the other part of the bracket, it's Texas Tech and Wake Forest. So if those games go as projected, it would be an awesome matchup in, in the Bahamas in the title game there, Purdue against Texas Tech. The reigning Big Ten player of the year, Braden Smith on one side, the reigning Big 12 Player of the Year, J.T. toppin on the other. There were only three consensus All Americans who returned to college for this season and two of them would be on the court against each other in the Bahamas next week. On Arizona, I mean Arizona, Alabama, you mentioned what they're going through right now, but even when they're through with this stretch, there's still just more stuff. It's, it's Arizona and then they've got Yale and I just saw Yale at the Veterans Classic the other night.
Matt Norlander
Top 100 team in the country. Yeah, yeah.
Gary Parrish
Oh, better than that. That team is good enough to beat a, to get a 12 seed in the tournament and then beat a 5 like they. I talked to James Jones about it. I even said like, you know, is what, do you know what it looks like? Have a team that gets to the tournament, wins games in the tournament. What does it look like? He said, well, we play Alabama in a little while. Talk to me after that. But you know, that's another wild opponent for Alabama and then you open SEC play with Kentucky. So this is an ambitious schedule also one you only put together. I think when you have incredible job security. It's a job security non conference schedule And I applaud NATO's for putting it together because the more compelling basketball games we get, the better, far as I'm concerned.
Matt Norlander
Two notes and we can get to the Final Four. And one, one, that Akron game on Sunday for Purdue. Painter's going for win 500 in his career. Akron's actually a viable team out of the Mac, but we expect Purdue to win there and then real time results from the poll next five years. Who would you rather have running your program now? I think we have some Purdue enthusiasm in the chat a day after a win that typically happens. So maybe got a little slant there. 83% say painter over oats for the next five seasons. If you took that to the open market in college basketball, be interesting. They'd be very competitive. Nate Oats is viewed Alabama fans know they have a really, really good one there and they hope that they can hold on to them for another 20 years. But if, if any coach, you know, was able to be put on the market right now, I think Oats and Painter would, and Oats probably would even command even more because he's a little bit younger there. But the chat says 83% for painter. Look at that. Purdue getting a little bit of love. I know the Boiler fans in the chat are maybe tilting the results of that just a bit.
Gary Parrish
I think if you're a college basketball fan, you'd probably be happy with either one of them. You'd probably be happy with either one of them. Final four and one presented by FanDuel Sportsbook. That's coming up next. I'll tell you how I did in week one.
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Matt Norlander
Do we have a. Do you have a graphic, Josh? We might not have a graphic. I can simply say I hope we don't have a graphic.
Gary Parrish
No, I don't need.
Matt Norlander
Let's get a graphic. Big, big cutouts of our faces on it. Really, really hammer home the point. I'm ready to completely reverse course here. I went 3 and 2, you went 1 and 4. Not only did you go 1 and 4, some of them were just brutal and atrocious.
Gary Parrish
Well, I mean the the Mississippi Riverhawks could not have let me down more.
Matt Norlander
44 how about this? Even putting that game on the on the on the final four one was egregious. But the fact, it actually couldn't have been better for the show because the line was 33 and a half. UConn was covering 33 and a half with like five minutes to go in the first half. It's got to be, if not a first and almost first ever. When, when would you ever have a line of 30 plus points and a team is covering the game line before the final TV timeout of the first half, 44 to 3. UConn got out to a lead last week against you, has been banned from the final four and one for eternity.
Gary Parrish
You don't, you don't have that kind of authority around here. All right, but, but point taken. Point taken.
Matt Norlander
That was, it was 55 to 10 with 357 to go in the first half.
Gary Parrish
I thought they still had a run in them at that point. I thought they had a run in them, but they didn't. They did not.
Matt Norlander
So I wanted for games.
Gary Parrish
Yeah, I think I'm gonna be better this week. I think I'm going to be better this week. Game one, Friday, 10pm Eastern. It's number five Arizona versus number 15 UCLA inside the Kawhi Leonard Dome in Inglewood. You can watch it on Peacock. The line is Arizona minus two and a half.
Matt Norlander
I was wondering who you were gonna give the the Dome to here. A lot of, a lot of options, frankly. I thought you might be giving it.
Gary Parrish
To Pablo Torre, but I'm give it to Kawhi. But here's the thing. He doesn't have to show up. He don't have to do nothing for it. He could just like, just. It's his. We're giving it to him. He don't have to do nothing for it. I like in, in keeping keeping with the pattern of Kawhi Leonard jobs, we're going to allow him to accept money to put his name on the dome and he ain't got to do nothing else. That's it. He's done enough.
Matt Norlander
Okay. Some make this man work more than he has to. Fun little Friday night game here. You said Arizona is two and a half.
Gary Parrish
That's what I didn't say it. The bookmakers did.
Matt Norlander
Okay. Arizona going for a win over a second ranked opponent. I think if they get it, Arizona would be the first team to get two ranked wins this season. I think they obviously beat Florida in the season opener. UCLA looking for its first win against the top five opponents since January of 2022 when it beats Arizona, lost four straight games against AP top five teams since, by the way, this game will be played in this building two years in a row. Why Arizona and UCLA couldn't simply opt into a home and home. Well, it's not anyone's guess. I know they're both schools are getting paid to play this game at the Clippers facility. That might be. What was the company.
Gary Parrish
What was the company aspiration.
Matt Norlander
Aspiration. The aspiration might be about you still in Arizona. Might want to check and make sure the deal's on the up and up here. Okay. These, these neutral site games, you get these third parties involved. Trying toss, you know, 200, 300, 400, 500K. Just make sure aspiration isn't involved in the, in the, in the paying situation here. Last season, CUCLA beat Arizona 57, 54. That game was in Phoenix. They were down 13 in the second half. Two players in that game are going to play in this game. Tyler Bildo and Sky Clark. They had 32 of UCLA's points. These are obviously familiar foes. 115th all time meeting between the schools. UCLA leads the series 64 to 50. How many points go P going for in this game?
Gary Parrish
Gp as many as he wants.
Matt Norlander
As many as he wants. How many does he want?
Gary Parrish
I think he wants 23.
Matt Norlander
Okay, I'll take the over. You say the over. Under 23. I'll take the over. UCLA's got some, some viability in that front court there, but I will go. Man, the Mick Cronen post game press conference potential is immense here. I will say Arizona gets it done, wins. It's a good late night tip. Take zona, something like 75, 70, like a really good game. But they, but they cover the two and a half. Give me Tommy Lloyd's Wildcats.
Gary Parrish
UCLA is 3.0-ranked 15th in the AP poll, but plummeting in the computers. Take a guess. If you remove all preseason bias over at bart, it's not picking up too early.
Matt Norlander
Too early to, you know, you're getting mess, you're getting messy. You're getting into these, removing the bias. We're not even two weeks in and you're sorting data.
Gary Parrish
I'm already sorting data. You're gonna look up. It's going to be December. You're going to be like, man, I wish I'd have been sorting data.
Matt Norlander
Like, no, December, December is prime data sorting season. That when the calendar flips to December 1st, three things happen.
Gary Parrish
You're late. You're so. You're 2000 and late.
Matt Norlander
Quoting the Black Eyed Peace. Yes, yes, the first one. 2000 late good job. Get it together, please.
Gary Parrish
You're 2000 and late December 1st. I'm gonna have all. I'm gonna have all the data sorted. You're gonna be sitting around waiting on the calendar to flip. I'll already have it. So.
Matt Norlander
Free shopping. The net rankings revealed and it's. It's data sorting season. Okay, I'm not saying you can't. I'm just saying you get yourself into a little bit of trouble there. There's a lot of buy games happening. It's a lot of smoke and mirrors. Okay, I.
Gary Parrish
Here's what I'm saying. I'm saying my wife came home with Christmas presents yesterday, and when she walked in the front door, asked me what I was doing. I was sitting at my desk sorting data. We're ahead of schedule. We're ahead of schedule in the Parish household.
Matt Norlander
That's Good. On your November 13th and already on the Christmas present.
Gary Parrish
I don't. I don't know what's going on.
Matt Norlander
That's impressive. I.
Gary Parrish
Stay out of it. I don't feel like it's any of my business.
Matt Norlander
It's just your family. It's not your business. All right, if you sort. If you sort the data, what's UCLA at? I'm gonna say this is a truly blind guess. I'll say 57.
Gary Parrish
I have 111th.
Matt Norlander
Okay, again, you can't be sorting data. You can't be sorting data within a week of Veterans Day. That's. That's my personal credo. That's just. But go ahead.
Gary Parrish
I sort data to honor the veterans.
Matt Norlander
They'd want you to do that.
Gary Parrish
That's what they would want me to do. That's what they. Both of my grandfathers are veterans, and I know if they were here today, if I could talk to them one more time. Yeah, they would be appreciative that I sort data in their honor so close to Veterans Day. Don't talk to me when it's Christmas Eve and you're. You don't have any presents and your data is not sorted.
Matt Norlander
Covered on Christmas Eve. The data couldn't be more sorted, cleanly colonized out.
Gary Parrish
I know your dots. I know your type. I've seen you. I've seen you at Walgreens on Christmas Eve trying to justify buying your wife a back massager. I know. I know your type. I've seen you.
Matt Norlander
That is not my type. I am all. I'm all over it.
Gary Parrish
The saddest place in the world is Walgreens on Christmas Eve.
Matt Norlander
I have. I have found myself. It has Only been a couple of times, but there have been one or two years where it's reached December 24th. And I've looked at the inventory and said, I. I can't get to tomorrow morning. And this is all I get. My wife. So that you make the hustle out. And you're like, what. What went wrong? What did I do wrong? I typically am not in that spot, though.
Gary Parrish
You're like, I mean, hopefully she'll like a candle. Hopefully she'll. Maybe. Hopefully. Maybe I'll put a. Maybe I'll put a. A razor in her stocking. I mean, Walgreens on the Christmas Eve. It's a. It's a mess.
Matt Norlander
All right.
Gary Parrish
I know you're tight. You're gonna be sitting around on Christmas Eve. I'll already have all my presents bought, wrapped under the tree, and my data will be sorted. I'm taking Arizona. I can't trust a team that's 111th at Torvik, minus preseason bias.
Matt Norlander
We're on the same side.
Gary Parrish
We're on the same side. I gotta take Arizona. I can't trust the team that's plummeted like this in the computer so early. Not this close to Veterans Day. Game two, Saturday, 7pm Eastern. Number three, UConn versus number seven, BYU. Inside. You ready? Let's go ahead and do it. AJ DebonSA, Garden.
Matt Norlander
No, you just. You did this last year. The chat or someone after the fact's gonna have to lift me up. You did this last year with an active player, and they got destroyed. They lost the game. So you just do.
Gary Parrish
And BYU, that was a different player. This is AJ DebonSA. You can watch it on Fox. Kim Palm's got it. Yukon minus 6.
Matt Norlander
Fade down the music here real quick because we actually have a news item we have to address with this game as well. Oh, no, they're still not. There's still not clarity. So BYU's fourth leading scorer, Canard Davis, didn't play in the last game and will not play in this one. He was arrested Thursday morning just before noon, local for suspected DUI after getting into a car accident near campus. He had a minor leg injury that kept him out of the previous game, but was expected back for the Yukon game. We don't have more details at this point. It is a very curious story. Alleged driving under the influence on a Thursday, like in the late morning. We need to have more information, so I'm not gonna dive too deep into it, but obviously not a good situation, period. It was, I guess he was involved with another car, but There were no serious injuries, thankfully, with that. But Canard Davis starts for byu. He's probably the team's fifth best player. He's the fourth leading scorer. And now, pending what other information we get, like, is his future on the team in doubt? Is this, Is his status in doubt? If he actually was driving under the influence and alcohol was involved, we don't know that to be, you know, a fact yet. But that is an honor. Like, that is an honor code violation we have. We know what happens at BYU when stuff like this comes into the fore. Coincidentally enough, unfortunately enough, ironically enough, even the last time we had this happen was the Brandon Davis situation for something entirely different. But these are the two best BYU teams of the past 30, 40 years. So we wait and see more on this. But this was a headline that broke late Thursday night. And maybe by the time you are taking this podcast later on Friday afternoon, Saturday morning, maybe we have more clarity. Maybe we don't get an update period until Kevin Young speaks to the media after the game on Saturday. But BYU will not have a starter for this game. What did you say the line was? Do we have a line? Or we just have Ken Palm right now?
Gary Parrish
Minus six is all we have right now.
Matt Norlander
So I would. I would not. Having Canard Davis might affect the real line in real time, but we'll go off that line. I'll make my pick, and then we can get into some more details on the game. I'll just say UConn's gonna win by six or more. But. But yes, an unusual situation here where we've got a Final Four in one game and actually, news, unexpected news emerging, you know, less than 36, 48 hours from when the game will be played.
Gary Parrish
I'll take UConn's opponent plus the points since that worked so well last week.
Matt Norlander
Yeah, okay.
Gary Parrish
And we obviously, over the years have had fun with the honor code at byu, and we will again. But I don't think this is anything to joke about. Like, this is a serious deal. This young man allegedly, you know, put. Put his life in danger, put other people's life in danger. Anytime you get behind the will of a vehicle after drinking, you are making a mistake and taking all sorts of risk. I don't say this in a holier than thou way, but, like, you know, he's lucky on some level this wasn't worse. If it is, as it is alleged. Beyond that, yeah, his college career could be over. At least the college career he thought he was going to have because of rules in place at byu. So this is not a joking manner and perhaps a lesson for all of us, particularly young people. Like, you know, one bad decision can wreck everything. You know, like, and I say this as somebody who has made plenty of bad decisions throughout their life, lots of them when I was the same age as Canard Davis. It's, it's a miracle that I'm, I'm unscathed. But yeah, you know, this is, you know, it's one bad decision. One stupid day can change your life forever. And you know, two days ago this young man was a key member of a basketball program with Final Four aspirations and who knows if he, if he ever will be again. And that's, that's again self inflicted, it appears, but still a sad deal. Yeah, I don't like watching, I don't like watching young people mess their lives up.
Matt Norlander
Agreed. Agreed.
Gary Parrish
I just.
Matt Norlander
Something weird about the story. The fact that this would like late Thursday morning, like broad daylight. There's something weird about it. I just.
Gary Parrish
Sometimes people do drink in the day, Norland.
Matt Norlander
I know, I know. But you don't typically get this, especially from, you know, I, I understand your point.
Gary Parrish
Yes. These types of stories, when you hear them, they're usually 2:34am Not 10:34am Correct.
Matt Norlander
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll wait on, we'll wait on more of that. As for the game, this is the first of six big non conference battles for UConn this season. Game is in Boston, stone's throw from Brockton, Massachusetts, where the debancers are from. Really cool for both programs to just arrange this game and make it, you know, make it something that can be done and be possible there. So second meeting ever between these schools. The first One was in 2003 in the tournament. UConn won that game. Agent of Bansa, Richie Saunders, who actually leads BYU in scoring, and Rob Wright III are combining to average 57.3 points per game. They've looked solid so far. UConn has looked obviously outstanding. Even the UMass Lowell game aside, I will, I'll take UConn to win. High hopes that this can be a really entertaining game. We'll see how BYU being shorthanded whether it affects them or not. But nothing has dissuaded me to start the season of UConn being top five caliber. And that will obviously be a very, very heavily slanted UConn backing in the TD Garden on Saturday night.
Gary Parrish
Yeah, Devonsa might lead the NBA in scoring someday. People talk about him that way. But right now he's not even leading BYU in scoring. That is Richie Saunders at 23.7.0 rebounds, 2.3 steals per game. Game 3 Sunday, 3pm Eastern Number 1 Houston vs. Number 23 Auburn Inside Walton Goggins Arena. You can watch it on ESPN. KenPom's got it. Houston -5 shouts to Uncle Baby Billy.
Matt Norlander
I believe he's gotten an arena named after him before. Was it the same arena? He's definitely gotten a shout before.
Gary Parrish
He's from Birmingham. He's a Birmingham native.
Matt Norlander
There we go. Walton Goggins. One of my favorite actors for sure. I'm two seasons into.
Gary Parrish
Righteous Gemstones.
Matt Norlander
Righteous Gemstones. Yeah, a couple months. So yeah I'm way behind but I'm two seasons in. And Goggins if you have if if anyone listening or watching has not watched Justified that is his he's had a number of great performances that is his best and Justified as one of the best TV shows.
Gary Parrish
Him as Uncle Baby Billy is hilarious. Yeah he is so good in that role and that we will look that show lol like laugh out loud funny and was just completely ignored by most of the awards stuff and should not have been that that has been the funniest show on television while it was on television.
Matt Norlander
It's I was late to the party but yeah working my way through it a little by little over under 0.5 plane fights tied to this game.
Gary Parrish
GP I I hope over I hope it's over. I mean I can't get enough of.
Matt Norlander
Those over under 0.5 horseplay I hope.
Gary Parrish
I hope there's some horseplay going on.
Matt Norlander
On the plane again that might be like wait what Last year it was it was when Auburn flew to Houston and there was a little bit of a would be brouhaha that that emerged on the plane forced a forced the flight Auburn's to turn around and then Auburn went on to become one of the best teams in the country. So hey maybe there's a lesson to be learned there. Auburn does not have to get on a plane for this one though. Houston's flying to play the game in Birmingham. Auburn won the game by the way last season Houston 7469 that really kicked off what was an awesome campaign for the Tigers overall. To be noted in this one the two big name guards heading into the season for each of these teams have not been that so far to hot Pettiford 11 points per game shooting just 29 27.9% from the field and six 17.4% from three. Again it's early. This is why we don't get too nuts with sorting the data just yet, but he hasn't gotten going yet. And how About Milo Suzanne? 8.7 points per game, 4.7 assists, 3.7 rebounds, shooting just 27% from the field. How do each of these guys match up with each other? Do they turn the corner? This is kind of a tough opponent to turn the corner against. For Auburn, Keyshawn hall has been tremendous. 24.3 points, 11 rebounds to start. He's been their best player. The transfer from UCF who was one of the best players in the Big 12 last season, who got no run because UCF wasn't any good, he's immediately translated and been one of the better transfers for the first two weeks of the season. Elijah Freeman, the. The D2 player who transferred up to Auburn, he's also had some. Some nice moments there. We'll see if Auburn can put it all together and have itself a nice little game for Houston. Emmanuel Sharpe leading the team in scoring 17 points. And then Kingston Fleming, a top 20 prospect. He's number two, 15.7 points per game. He's done. He's done well and picked up the scoring slack for use and who's done some other stuff. That's been nice, but overall, I don't think Houston just yet has had the kind of impact I would have expected. I will go Houston to cover here again. By again, I mean, I think that's three favorites in a row. I'll take. I'll take the Cougars to get it done. Want to see how the Tigers look against a legit opponent? And really the first big game of Stephen Pearl's career.
Gary Parrish
You mentioned Keyshawn hall, transfer from ucf. He's a transfer from everywhere. He's a. He's.
Matt Norlander
He's a. Four schools in four years.
Gary Parrish
Yes, he's P.J. hagerty. Four schools in four years. That's the P.J. hagerty. He pulled off a Haggerty. He started at UNLV, George Mason, UCF, now at Auburn. And he has been awesome. He's averaged at least 16.6 points as a sophomore in college, as a junior in college, and now as a senior in college. 24.3 points like you said for him. So far, if two Auburn players were to get into a fight on the bus ride to Birmingham, which two would they be?
Matt Norlander
I'm not going there. You tell me.
Gary Parrish
I. Oh, I think it'd be Keyshawn hall and to Hot Pettiford. Big fight shot attempts.
Matt Norlander
Okay. Yeah, you've already got. You've got inner team turmoil with Stephen Pearl's program less than two weeks into the season.
Gary Parrish
I'm inventing it. I want to be clear.
Matt Norlander
You're inventing it. You're just.
Gary Parrish
I'm inventing. I'm inventing turmoil in the Auburn program that will escalate on the bus, on the ride to Birmingham. I'm predicting a Keyshawn hall to Hod Pettifords over. Over field goal attempts.
Matt Norlander
Okay.
Gary Parrish
All right. In the chat, who do two. You got to pick two Auburn players to fist fight on the bus on the way to the game. Who do you want to fist fight? Put it in the chat.
Matt Norlander
Who do you got in the game? Paris.
Gary Parrish
I'm taking Houston -5. Good Lord. It's Kelvin Sampson.
Matt Norlander
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Matt Norlander
Oh, God.
Gary Parrish
He did it all for the nookie from Jacksonville. Yes.
Matt Norlander
There's got to be better options.
Gary Parrish
He did it all for the nookie.
Matt Norlander
I'll never have a Fred Durst drop on this board. I'll tell you that much.
Gary Parrish
Have you ever done it all for the nookie?
Matt Norlander
What's the line?
Gary Parrish
You can watch it on espn. Kim, Palms. Got it. Florida minus nine.
Matt Norlander
Okay, before we make the pick, I think we need to have a general rule, not hard and fast.
Gary Parrish
I love the chat with the Auburn piss fights. We've got some good matchups in there.
Matt Norlander
Re trapping Simon Walker.
Gary Parrish
Let him go. Let him go. Let him square up. Let them square up and let's do this thing.
Matt Norlander
Oh, man. Okay, here's my suggestion. If we're going to have a game in the final four and one, I don't think we can. I don't think the Sunday night show can end before all games in the final four and one have been played.
Gary Parrish
So this game, then. We will replace this game.
Matt Norlander
But I don't know. No, but. Parrish, in all seriousness, like, I know we're not, like, raring to go, looking to fire up on a Sunday at 10pm But Florida has had a close shave against Florida State. It lost to Arizona. If the Gators were to lose this game, I feel like we need to make sure that they win it before we. We close business on Sunday because we wouldn't be doing our job as national voices of the sport by having a Sunday show and not addressing what's going on with the Gators. That's all. That's all I'm. That's all I'm saying.
Gary Parrish
Okay, I'll consider it.
Matt Norlander
You got some more data to sort on Sunday night. You're going to be doing some Christmas shopping Sunday night. You got booked up plans?
Gary Parrish
What do I have. And on Sunday night. No, I mean, I'll probably just be watching Florida Miami. Probably just be watching this.
Matt Norlander
I think we might be able to fire up as the game's going on, but it is. It is a late tip. And I'm not exactly. I'm not. I'm not looking to. To close up shop at, you know, 11 o' clock or so on Sunday.
Gary Parrish
But Fred Durst did it all for the nookie and you're trying to do it all for the college basketball fans. You don't want to shortchange anybody on a Sunday night. You're like college basketball's version of Fred Durst. Put your hat on backwards, pull it down real tight.
Matt Norlander
I will close the Streamyard. I will close out the Streamyard and you will finish this podcast again. If you call me Fred Durst, the Fred Durst to college basketball. How dare you. I. I prefer the. I'll take the. The Noel Gallagher, College Basketball I'll take that. Okay. Or. Or what do I have behind me? I've got. I've got talking heads. I'll. I'll take. I'll take anyone from. From the talking heads instead.
Gary Parrish
What a wild thing to just announce to the world that you did it all for the nookie. Like, all of it. You did all of it for the nookie.
Matt Norlander
It's, you know, it's one of those things I think just goes unsaid. Fred Durst, one of us, obviously.
Gary Parrish
I mean, clearly one of us and committed to the cause. I don't know that I've ever done.
Matt Norlander
It all.
Gary Parrish
But maybe I'm lazy. Maybe because I'm lazier than Fred Durst, you know?
Matt Norlander
Let's get back to the game.
Gary Parrish
Oh, man.
Matt Norlander
Why? Florida minus nine. Oh, my gosh. GP Florida minus nine. Miami Malik renews been the best player. That's been as expected. Trade Olsen has also looked solid. But can Florida just get a win with some breathing room here? Three point shooting might. Might be a problem this season. I'll give you a heads up on that in the off season there only three games in. So again, go nuts with the data just yet. This is what we call a small sample size. Okay, 21.1 from deep so far for the Gators. I'd like to see a strong statement. This is Florida's third high major opponent of the season. I'm wondering if Florida is actually the only power conference team to schedule three of its first four against Power 5 foes. It might be actually Nine's kind of. Kind of swell, but I'll go with it. Todd Golden Hey, Florida fans. I'm picking your team to win and I'm picking them to cover 9 Garrett. Boys, get hot before you stay hot.
Gary Parrish
Maybe it's 3 0, but the three wins are over teams ranked 220 or 220th or worse at Ken Palm. So we'll see. This is Jay Lucas against one of his. One of his two alma maters. Started at Florida.
Matt Norlander
There we go.
Gary Parrish
Finished at Texas. I'll also lay the points. Do you think Miami is an NCAA tournament team in year 100?
Matt Norlander
J? No.
Gary Parrish
Some people do.
Matt Norlander
Yeah, well, those people will be wrong.
Gary Parrish
Wow, you're awful confident in your.
Matt Norlander
Yeah, no, Miami's not going to the tournament.
Gary Parrish
You are awful confident in your dismissiveness of Jay Lucas's program.
Matt Norlander
Yeah. You got a problem with it?
Gary Parrish
I mean, no, not me personally, but.
Matt Norlander
I'm trying to lean into my inner Fred Durst. I guess that's what's going on here.
Gary Parrish
What do you think Fred Durst is doing today? You think they're still out there doing it? Do you think you can be, like, 55 years old out there still yelling about how you did it all for the nookie? That sounds like a young man song.
Matt Norlander
It does. You know, what do you want?
Gary Parrish
Can I find. If I went to YouTube right now, could I find a 2025 version of Fred?
Matt Norlander
I think you can. Although I. I understand that. I believe Limp Bizkit lost their bases recently, so they might not. I. That was in the past few weeks, I think.
Gary Parrish
Oh, you know. You know, a little. It sounds like you know a little bit more about Limp Bizkit than you like to let on.
Matt Norlander
I'm dialed into the music scene, GP what do you want from me?
Gary Parrish
I don't know what I want from you.
Matt Norlander
I know what I want from you. To pick the game.
Gary Parrish
I think I'm laying the nine points with the national champions. I don't feel like I can. I don't feel like I can pick against them. It didn't. It didn't. It didn't do me good last March, so I'll get on board with them this time.
Matt Norlander
Okay. There we go. It's me, right? The n.1.
Gary Parrish
Yeah.
Matt Norlander
Okay. And one Saturday.
Gary Parrish
Okay.
Matt Norlander
Two Eastern.
Gary Parrish
All right.
Matt Norlander
On what. What is it on Hulu? It's on Peacock.
Gary Parrish
Peacock.
Matt Norlander
Maryland at Marquette on Travis Deener court.
Gary Parrish
Okay. I love Travis Deener.
Matt Norlander
Ken Palm has it. Marquette minus four. This is Buzz Williams returning to Marquette for the first time in 12 years. Who you got?
Gary Parrish
I'm going. Buzz Williams. Would it be nice for. Would it be nice for Buzz? Is that a sweet. What is this scene gonna look like?
Matt Norlander
I think that's what it's gonna look like.
Gary Parrish
Is it gonna be sweet?
Matt Norlander
I don't think Buzz Williams is going to be heartily booed when he walks into a building that he never coached in. Right. I don't think he was there. How long. How old is Fiserv?
Gary Parrish
Maybe.
Matt Norlander
Did he coach there?
Gary Parrish
Yeah. That's been there forever. They've changed the name, but it's been there forever.
Matt Norlander
Okay. Building's been there forever. Yeah. Change the name. Fiserv Forum was built in. No. Paris.
Gary Parrish
Yes.
Matt Norlander
No. I was like, I didn't think so. Broke ground 2016 and opened in 2018.
Gary Parrish
Now that doesn't make sense. I don't think that's right. I don't think. I don't believe. Then what do they.
Matt Norlander
Been there forever. If by forever you mean seven years.
Gary Parrish
Seven Years is a long time. Seven. A lot can happen in seven years.
Matt Norlander
That building's been there forever. It's one of those. They change the names. They do it all the time. No, it opened in 2018.
Gary Parrish
So then where did they play before that? Bradley Center.
Matt Norlander
Bradley Center. Yeah. So he's never. He's never coached in this building before. At least I don't think he has.
Gary Parrish
Okay, but still there's going to be a lot of Milwaukee people there.
Matt Norlander
Yes. Who.
Gary Parrish
Who wants rooted for Buzz Williams? Yeah, sure. They once rooted for. How is Buzz Williams going to be treated by Marquette fans? That's what I'm trying to ask you.
Matt Norlander
I think it will be tepid appreciation. He did bounce to go to Virginia Tech.
Gary Parrish
So he did. But. But he also. His run at Marquette was awesome.
Matt Norlander
It was very good run. Yes.
Gary Parrish
Very good run. I. I hope they show proper appreciation.
Matt Norlander
And you're taking Maryland to cover?
Gary Parrish
Yeah, of course. Because I want it to be a good day.
Matt Norlander
You can't stand Marquette. So I want it to be a.
Gary Parrish
Good day for Buzz Williams and his family. I'm rooting for Buzz's family more than anything else.
Matt Norlander
So you're rooting against Shaka Smart and his family? No.
Gary Parrish
When Shaka goes back to Texas or back to vcu, I will root for Shaka's family for the exact same reasons. I'm consistent on this. I want when people to go back to where they used to be for it to be a good experience. I will be rooting for Josh Pastner's family this weekend as well. Okay. I mean, I cannot root against Memphis. I got to live here. Right. But you get the point. I want people to have good experiences. That's what I mean.
Matt Norlander
Paris rooting against Memphis this weekend. Aggregate it. Let's go. Get it done. Chase Ross for Marquette. The alpha, as expected. Putting up better than 19 a game. The only double digit score by the way, for Marquette this season. Golden Eagles were the victim of an Indiana blow by last Sunday. Indiana really played well. That was more about the Hoosiers than I think Marquette. But it is a big spot for Marquette. They're going against the Maryland team. With a lot of roles still being worked through. I think Buzz Williams's offense could be a bumpy ride for much of this season. Although I am curious if Pharrell Payne can have a. Can have a good game if he can feast a bit against Marquette's front line. I typically don't pick five favorites, but I guess I'm going to do that here. I will Take Marquette -4 Cling to my preseason rankings where I had Marquette 25th and Maryland 51. Game is in Marquette's building which has again only existed for seven seasons.
Gary Parrish
Feels like it feels like it's been.
Matt Norlander
There forever and so I will take Marquette to cover and get that done. Let's tour through the other games to know this weekend before we bounce out of here. It's still plenty early. We've got some high major on high major stuff but a lot of the games on Friday, Saturday they are high major teams playing other high major teams projected in the bottom half of their league so there's not a ton of appeal. That said, I point these out as kind of games to know. Michigan at TCU that is on Friday 9 Eastern ESPN 2 Providence at Colorado Friday 9 Eastern ESPN plus that is Kim English going back playing a game where he was assistant worked under Tad Boyle.
Gary Parrish
I hope it's a good experience for him.
Matt Norlander
I think I think it will be. I think I think it will be again. Zaga plays at Arizona State late night tip tonight 11 Eastern ESPN2 I actually almost, I almost made that the N1 but but we'll see if Arizona State can be frisky enough to keep it interesting. Gonzaga on the road and it's look damn good so far. Let's see what see what Mark Fuse team can do against an Arizona State team that's not expected to do a ton this season. But Bobby Hurley's picked off a few semi shocking upsets over his time in Tempe so we'll see what goes on there. Saturday Clemson at Georgetown that is at noon on on Come on Matt, my board's not responding. On Here we go on Peacock Noon Eastern Saturday Clemson at Georgetown like it. Oklahoma Nebraska 7 Eastern Big Ten Network on Saturday. Mid major game to watch. Grand Canyon at St. Louis 8 Eastern ESPN plus that is a quality mid major affair right there. And then on Sunday I think the most notable game is probably Notre Dame at Ohio State. Did you see that's, that's, that's actually a good test for Notre Dame. Ohio State should win but I think Notre Dame should be better this season. Did you see that stat line from Hannah Hidalgo for Notre Dame women's team? No dude she had so she set the NCAA record for steals in the game with 16 steals in a 40 minute game is outrageous. And then Optistats sent this along. Hannah Hidalgo is the only player ever men or women in the NBA, WNBA and NCAA men or women, any division. No one had ever logged a game with at least 40 points and 15 steals. And she did it earlier this week. Hidalgo, obviously one of the very best players in all of women's college basketball, wanted to give her a shout for what she did on the men's side. Notre Dame at Ohio State on Sunday. And that's what to keep an eye out for.
Gary Parrish
All right, let's get out of here. We're going to be back at some point on Sunday night.
Matt Norlander
We'll figure out the time again. If you want to be dialed into the show, subscribe to the CBS Sports college basketball YouTube channel. We've seen a nice little uptick here as season started. We appreciate that. Spread the word. And, yeah, subscribe. Ding the bell. When we go live, you'll get an alert. And I think the plan is, you know, at some point when Florida and Miami are, are getting going, I think that's the general, general idea also. Like, I can't start too early. Anyway, GP doesn't realize this, but I got a, I got a child's birthday to attend to on Sunday. So I won't even be clear.
Gary Parrish
Hey, I got a child's birthday on Saturday. Do we know this about our kids, that their birthdays are right next to.
Matt Norlander
Each other, their day apart? Yes.
Gary Parrish
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
Matt Norlander
I'm about to, I'm about to have a 10 year old, by the way. Kind of wild, kind of, kind of not freaking me out, but it's like, I remember when our oldest was born, obviously, why wouldn't I? But tying it to the podcast, I remember when he was born, Sam Fasini, who we might not have time for on this show. We're gonna get to him. He subbed in on the pod, I want to say, for like five, six, seven episodes in a row. But he was born. And then the next night was the Champions Classic. And I think back to watching the Champions Classic in the hospital room with our firstborn, like, on my chest. And I'm like, man, that was 10 years ago. Every single cliche they tell you about having kids and how fast it goes is 100% correct. Like, he's about to turn 10. He's already halfway to when he's going to go to college. And I'm like, how did that happen? So, yeah, he turns 10 this weekend. Super pumped to throw him a big party. And he knows about the podcast now, by the way. He knows about the podcast because he knows, like, he's aware of what we do. But it was about like a month ago. You know, they have the Google Chromebooks in their class and they, they can Research stuff. And, and you're allowed to, I guess I don't know how this works with, with the schools and the firewalls, but you're limited on what you can search on Google, whatever. But he wanted to look up the name of the podcast that we do. So I think he just typed in, you know, Matt Norlander, college basketball podcast. And so it came up with a screenshot of us. And so he's building something at school, some collage of stuff about his life. And then he goes, I totally forgot about this. I meant to bring it up on the show. I'm so happy I'm doing it now. He goes, dad, I'm building a collage at school. I looked up your podcast. And he's laughing because he's like, I know what you do. I know. I know what you do when you go in your office. And he goes, you do the podcast? Yes, I do. I go, and who do I do do it with? He goes, it's you and Gary Bald. I said, it is Gary Bald. That is correct. I was like, that's not his last name. He didn't know your last name, but I know your name is Gary.
Gary Parrish
And that's good enough. That's good enough.
Matt Norlander
It was a really. And my wife was in earshot and so she starts just cracking up.
Gary Parrish
So my 8 year old who turns 9 this weekend, he's our youngest. Similar funny thing the other night, I'm in studio. It is Brent Stover, Roy Hibbert, me and Chris Walker. And I'm on this side and Chris Walker's on this side and my little guy called and he was like, dad, it is so funny. They put you and a guy and another guy who looks just like you on opposite sides of the desk. Y' all are just different colors because we're both bald and black glasses, the whole thing, right?
Matt Norlander
Man, oh man.
Gary Parrish
I was like, well, I don't think that was intentional, son.
Matt Norlander
Yeah, I thought he was just, I. I need you standing next to Roy Hibbert from some more stand ups. That's what we need. Oh, man.
Gary Parrish
Between Roy Hibbert and Brendan Haywood, I've stood next to some. I've stood next to some giants. Well, happy birthday on your end and happy birthday on my end. And we're gonna have good weekends and once we get everything, all the candles blown out, as they say, and then we'll be back here for the Iron College Basketball podcast.
Matt Norlander
And we'll see you on Sunday night. That's a show. Oh, wait, a shout.
Gary Parrish
God.
Matt Norlander
Go ahead. I have a shout. I have a shout. Listen, you'll approve of this shout.
Gary Parrish
Okay, go ahead.
Matt Norlander
Here's the shout. I was going to do it near the end, but I didn't want to forget. Okay, Kayla. Kayla Davis reached out.
Gary Parrish
Okay.
Matt Norlander
She said my boyfriend Kyle is a massive fan of your podcast. He listens to every episode and talks about it non stop. Kayla, I don't know why you're still dating this guy, but regardless, appreciate it. He said his birthday's coming up and I'd love to surprise him with something from the show. I was wondering if it'd be possible to get some sort of shout out. I completely understand if it's not something you do, but I figured it doesn't hurt to ask. Thanks for the amazing entertainment you bring to college basketball fans like him. Kayla, this is for you. Kyle, Happy birthday. I actually wrote back, this was the shouts to cbs Gmail.com. by the way, I asked how old Kyle would be. I didn't get a response. I'm not even going to drift. These could be a pair of 15 year old sophomores in high school. So I'm not even drifting into the other part, but we wanted a shout out. You get it, Kyle, Appreciate you loving the show. You got a good girlfriend who trying to surprise you. And so this is a true surprise at the end of the show. And so that is the shout. I don't do a ton of shouts typically. Kyle, in the spirit of talking about our own son's birthdays, Happy birthday to you. However hold you may be.
Gary Parrish
Happy birthday to you, Kyle. I had a similar experience. I got an email one time from this, you know, a woman I assumed and she was like, same thing. Boyfriend loves your show, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And hey, I'm having a surprise lunch. They like planned a lunch right after my show ended and was like, if you could just stop by and say it would blow his mind. And I was like, you know what? It take me 10 minutes to make somebody happy. I should do that. And I stopped by and they were high school kids. And I was like, so how old are you guys? And then. And I was like, all right, I gotta. This is gonna get wrong. Happy birthday. But I gotta get out of here. This is, this is happy birthday. But I can't be hanging out with high school kids. That's how you. I've been watching the news. I know you can't. I know you're not supposed to be hanging out with high school kids.
Matt Norlander
Wow.
Gary Parrish
Yeah, it was sweet though. It was sweet though. It was sweet. I'm a Sun Devil. Shouts to Deva Downey. Shouts to chest to South Carolina. Shouts to Terry Teagle. He's a legend. Huck Larnell. Thank you guys once again for watching listening to the I Own College Basketball podcast. Not subscribed. Please go. Subscribe anywhere. Subscribe to podcast Apple Spotify. More of us than there are of them. Your boy's 10 years old this weekend. How much longer?
Matt Norlander
We got plenty of time.
Gary Parrish
Well, we'll see about that. We'll see about that. We'll talk to you again on Sunday night. Till then, take.
Matt Norlander
Foreign.
Gary Parrish
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Episode Date: November 14, 2025
Hosts: Gary Parrish & Matt Norlander
This episode dives deep into Purdue’s impressive road win over top-10 Alabama—a third consecutive victory in their now-annual non-conference series, led by a breakout performance from Braden Smith. Gary Parrish and Matt Norlander break down what Purdue’s win means, Smith’s star turn, Trey Kaufman-Renn’s emergence, Alabama’s strengths and adversity, as well as a broader preview of an action-packed college basketball weekend featuring Arizona-UCLA, BYU-UConn, Houston-Auburn, and more.
“Braden Smith reminded folks why he was the preseason national player of the year. Purdue reminded folks why they were the preseason number one team in the AP poll.” – Gary Parrish (11:08)
“Is Purdue really going to have two of the 10 best players in the sport this season? Because that was on the table going in.” – Matt Norlander (09:44)
This episode offers authoritative big-picture college basketball insight—huge win breakdowns, early season trajectories, pivotal player and coaching storylines, and a vibrant podcast culture with real-time interaction and extended in-jokes. Perfect for college hoops fans looking for both deep analysis and an engaging, humorous listen.