Will Peterson + Dybantsa be NCAAT one-and-dones? 30-0 RedHawks‼️Tuesday bubble winners/losers; UConn vs. Florida for final No. 1

Summary

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Eye on College Basketball — Episode Summary

Episode: Will Peterson + Dybantsa be NCAAT one-and-dones? 30-0 RedHawks‼️Tuesday bubble winners/losers; UConn vs. Florida for final No. 1
Hosts: Gary Parrish (GP) & Matt Norlander
Date: March 4, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into a wild week in college basketball, examining the struggles of high-profile prospects Darren Peterson (Kansas) and AJ Dybantsa (BYU), bubble chaos with major implications for NCAA Tournament selection, the historic run of the undefeated Miami (OH) RedHawks, and a heated debate over the final No. 1 seed between UConn and Florida. Parrish and Norlander’s signature mix of insight, data, irreverence (with riffs from Tool to Boyz II Men), and inside info makes this a must-listen for fans gearing up for March Madness.

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Key Topics and Discussion Points

1. Big 12 Madness: Kansas & BYU Plummet

Timestamps: 04:47–10:26

• Both projected top 2026 NBA picks — Darren Peterson (Kansas) and AJ Dybantsa (BYU) — struggle mightily in double-digit losses.
  • Peterson and Dybantsa combine to shoot 10/39 (25.6%).
  • Kansas falls to Arizona State (60–70), with Bill Self ejected after a heated exchange.
  • BYU is steamrolled by Cincinnati (68–90), continuing a defensive nosedive.
• Norlander: "There is no perfect prospect coming out of college basketball this season... All of the glowing things said about Peterson, while they are still largely true, we’re seeing how he is."
  • (06:05)
• The guys debate: Will Peterson and Dybantsa’s teams win more NCAA Tournament games, or will their combined draft slot (likely 1 + 2 = 3) be the bigger number?
  • GP: “I'd go push. I think one of them just wins games, you know...but I’m skeptical of what Kansas is going to be able to do in this bracket.”
    • (08:14)
• Big-picture concern: Mixes of stars returning from injury (Peterson) are disrupting team chemistry. Studio guest Emeka Okafor observed the repeated “resetting” required with stars in/out of the lineup.

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2. Bubble Watch: Winners and Losers

Timestamps: 16:49–41:11

Bubble Winners

• UCLA’s Home Dominance:
  • Bruins notch a third home win vs. a Top-10 team, a program first.
  • Norlander: "The Bruins have ever won three games at home against top 10 teams in the same season. Come on now." (18:22)
  • Donovan Dent’s astounding 46 assists/2 turnovers over four games; best stretch for any player in 30 years.
• Cincinnati’s Hot Streak:
  • Six wins in last seven; now knocking on the at-large door after dismantling BYU.
  • Norlander: “Wes Miller is coaching for his job. If Cincinnati gets in, he keeps it.” (21:06)
• TCU’s Quad-1 Breakthrough:
  • Massive road win at Texas Tech; as close to a “lock” as you can be without being officially in.
  • Set a school record with 3 Top-10 wins this season.
  • Norlander: “Jamie Dixon is one of the five most underappreciated coaches in college basketball over the past four decades.” (25:12)
• Miami (OH) RedHawks:
  • Now 30–0, including 27–0 vs Division I teams.
  • Unbeaten in one-possession games (7–0); only the third team since the '60s to do this.
  • Norlander: “If they run the table...the committee will not keep out a team that did not lose a game in the regular season from the tournament. They could lose by 70 in the MAC tournament...they’ll be in.” (25:53)
• Texas A&M:
  • Blasts Kentucky with a 29–3 run, 13 made threes, 57 bench points.
  • Coach Bucky’s Classic Quote: "We don’t play not to die, we play to live."
  • Norlander: “That’s one of the best quotes of the season. The court is 94 feet, not 40 feet.” (31:08)

Bubble Losers

• Missouri:
  • Troubling blowout loss at home to Oklahoma; defense a key concern as NET ranking slips to 59.
  • Could be sliding towards Dayton, though still likely in (38:35).
• UCF:
  • Devastating Quad-3 home OT loss to Oklahoma State. (38:35)
  • GP: “If I know one thing about the last week of the regular season, it’s that you don’t want to be a coach on the hot seat with a bubble team that takes a Quadrant 3 loss.”
• San Diego State:
  • Falls to 19–9, needing a deep Mountain West Tourney run to stay relevant for an at-large.

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3. Historic & Noteworthy Performances

Timestamps: 44:24–51:21

• Georgia knocks off Alabama:
  • Georgia's biggest win in over a decade—first back-to-back NCAA Tournaments since 2001–02 likely.
  • Norlander: “Cannon Catchings, first Georgia player with 30 and 5 vs a ranked opponent since Ant Edwards in 2019 under Tom Crean.” (45:17)
• UNC & St. John’s Survive Scares:
  • Carolina finishes 18–0 at home, most in school history.
  • GP: “...Never thought of this team as that, and yet it’s done things no other Carolina team has done.” (47:14)
• Florida’s Dominance:
  • Has scored 100+ in back-to-back SEC games for first time since 1975; poised for top seed.

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4. The UConn vs. Florida #1 Seed Debate

Timestamps: 53:29–57:51

• Will Florida’s hypothetical run as SEC outright and tournament champ (with 15 Q1 wins) trump UConn for the final No. 1?
  • GP: “If Florida wins out, it will be Florida. And it doesn’t matter what anybody else does.”
  • Norlander: “Because UConn will have three fewer losses and a neutral-floor H2H win... I cannot envision committee giving Florida the final one.”
• The hosts discuss process, resume nuance, and note the situation likely resolves itself before Selection Sunday.

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5. Naismith Watch & Season Honors

Timestamps: 58:01–61:44

• Favorite for the Naismith Award:
  • Cameron Boozer (Duke) leads, with Dybantsa sliding due to BYU’s struggles.
  • Top-5 includes Boozer, Dybantsa, Darius Acuff Jr., Yaxel Lendenborg, and Jeremy Fears Jr.
  • GP: “The Bonsa’s team can’t have premarital sex or win basketball games anymore. That’s a problem. I’d like to at least do one or the other, you know?” (60:36)

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6. Wednesday Whiparound & Upcoming Games

Timestamps: 61:40–64:35

• Key bubble games previewed:
  • Minnesota at Indiana, Texas at Arkansas, Miami at SMU, Ohio State at Penn State, Colorado State at New Mexico, plus Saint Louis for the A-10 title.
• Noted: Bubble games now often more meaningful than top-10 matchups in March.

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Most Memorable Quotes & Lighthearted Moments

• Norlander, on UCLA’s feat:
  “The Bruins have ever won three games at home against top 10 teams in the same season. Come on now.” (18:22)
• Dent’s assist-turnover stat:
  “Donovan Dent has 46 assists and two turnovers in his last four games...the only player in the last 30 seasons…” (19:28)
• Coach Bucky, on playing style:
  “Basketball is a war. We pick people up at 94ft because the court is 94ft, not 40ft. We play to live, we don't play not to die.” (31:08)
• Parrish muses:
  “What is the point of life if you can’t win a game or have premarital sex? What are we even doing?” (60:45)
• On Duke’s continuity:
  “You could remove the names… and you would not be able to tell that Mike Krzyzewski is no longer the coach at Duke. Nothing’s really changed.” (51:21)
• Pop culture riff:
  Tool and Boyz II Men references, “Learn to swim!” (59:29; 61:29; running theme)

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Notable Timestamps

• Wild Big 12 Night Discussion: 04:47–06:57
• Draft slot vs. NCAA wins debate: 08:14–10:26; revisited at 65:08–66:04
• Bubble team analysis: 16:49–41:18
• Miami (OH)'s historic season: 25:38–29:08
• UConn vs. Florida 1-seed debate: 53:29–57:51
• Naismith Watch: 58:01–61:44

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Takeaways & Final Thoughts

• Kansas and BYU’s stars are mortal, and their teams look increasingly vulnerable for March.
• Miami (OH) could make NCAA Tournament history if perfection holds.
• The bubble is as chaotic and “ass” as it’s been in years—several teams clinging to hopes by the slimmest of margins.
• UConn vs. Florida for the last No. 1 seed is complex, hinging on championship week results.
• The hosts blend robust analytics with humor and a streak of pop culture that makes the show unique.

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For Your Bracket Prep

• Don’t pencil in Kansas or BYU for deep runs—both are reeling.
• Miami (OH) is no fluke, and their resume is historic, but beware of those close-call wins.
• Texas A&M, TCU, and Cincinnati are surging; Missouri, UCF, and SDSU are teetering.
• Expect UConn/Florida 1-seed drama to go to the wire.

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Transcript

[Matt Norlander]

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[Gary Parrish]

Hey there. I am Gary Parrish. Welcome back to CBS Sports. I own College basketball podcast where we sometimes discuss camel fighting, Dodo birds, Leaky Black Matt Norlander is here with me.

[Matt Norlander]

Sounds so good. By the I don't mean to interrupt. Keep going. But to hear that music in my head, I wasn't ready for it. Again, just to have that music start every single episode for the next month is a glorious thing.

[Gary Parrish]

Good morning, GP I was asked about this recently by a consumer of the Allen College Basketball podcast and they said, hey, that March Madness music that you guys play in March, that's amazing. Why don't you play that 12 months a year? You answer that question Because I said

[Matt Norlander]

because we don't eat dessert for dinner. That's why. You need to appreciate it yourself.

[Gary Parrish]

Speak for yourself. You're gonna have to speak for yourself on this one.

[Matt Norlander]

You Eat dessert for dinner.

[Gary Parrish]

I will. I'll eat breakfast for dinner. I'll have, I'll have fried eggs.

[Matt Norlander]

We're known to do the breakfast for dinner every eight to 10 to 10 nights. You know, things get a little difficult. We had another delayed opening today. Setting, setting a Connecticut record for school closings.

[Gary Parrish]

Early dismissal yesterday.

[Matt Norlander]

Delayed opening today. They're still down there. Wife's taking them in about 20 minutes. So we could be a breakfast for dinner night tonight as well. So. I hear that all the way.

[Gary Parrish]

Hey, my, my condolences. Weather that keeps kids at home. That ain't good for nobody.

[Matt Norlander]

It was mass chaos this morning. I'm ready to go. PA has been prepped. Just. It's great to be with you.

[Gary Parrish]

I. Isaiah, it's good to see you too. I know what you're dealing with. This is wild because I feel like you every minute I'm at home, but I'm not like, you know, I mean, I could be doing better, but I feel I'm not stressed this morning. No kids have bothered me this morning. Nobody's bothered me this morning. I feel good.

[Matt Norlander]

You're doing just fine.

[Gary Parrish]

Hey, listen, if you listen to Sunday's episode.

[Matt Norlander]

Yeah.

[Gary Parrish]

Of the Iowan College Basketball Podcast, you know that after something like 10 to 15 years, Norlander finally decided, hey, since you stay up till 4 o' clock in the morning on 5:15, 5:15 in the morning on Tuesday night, maybe I should plan, plan those Wednesday shows. I was like, man, that's a, that's a neat, that's a neat thing. That good? Yeah, I like that. And, and so then I got back here at the hotel is late and I looked at the rundown and I want, I want everybody to know Norlander has planned a four hour show.

[Matt Norlander]

I haven't. We're good to go.

[Gary Parrish]

I've got like 65 minutes. Let's rock. Let's see, let's see how this goes. All right. If you're watching on YouTube, Honor Brandon Davies, smash that like, button. If you haven't yet subscribed to the I Own College Basketball podcast, you open

[Matt Norlander]

that pod doc at 3:15 in the morning. You were like, what have I done?

[Gary Parrish]

I was like, my God. And I, I swear to God, I had this thought. I was like, I gave over planning responsibilities on a night where I barely sleep. To a man who writes 7,000 words about anything, about anything in this world, he thinks it deserves 7,000 words. What have I done? All right, we're good to go. Spotify.

[Matt Norlander]

This is a good opening topic. And you Know it. Let's do it.

[Gary Parrish]

Hey, let's get into it. The place to start, I think is the Big 12. And that is where the projected top two picks in the 2026 NBA Draft, they both took double digit losses. Final score, Arizona State 70. Number 14, Kansas 60. Final score, Cincinnati. This didn't make sense. I mean I saw their coach cry earlier this year. Final score, Cincinnati 90, BYU 68. In the losses, Darren Peterson and AJ DeBonsa, the projected top two picks in the 2026 NBA Draft, they combined to go 10 of 39 from the field. That's 25.6% according to my iPhone. Norlander, it's good to see you on this Wednesday morning. Wild night in the Big 12, wasn't it? I haven't even mentioned the bubble. TCU.

[Matt Norlander]

Yeah.

[Gary Parrish]

Victory. We're gonna. Oh, they beat a top 10 team on the road. That's a quad one win. They won at Texas Tech. What'd you make of what we saw in the Big 12 last night?

[Matt Norlander]

Yeah, yeah, that was a big one. We've got a bubble B block. We'll get to the horn Frogs there.

[Gary Parrish]

Wait till you see this B block.

[Matt Norlander]

We're good to go, I promise you. I tell you what. Kansas getting rocked at Arizona State the way that it did. Ay ay yi yi yai. We gotta take all this in. Kind of one big chunk here. GP But Bill. Bill Self gets tossed. Was rightfully pissed off because of how Arizona State was defending Darren Peterson on that play. In that moment, he gets the hook. Jock Vaughn got another technical in the second half. Credit to Bobby Hurley. This is almost definitely his final home game as the Arizona State coach. He goes out with a memorable win. He's the second best coach in Arizona State history and deserves to have a moment like that. Good on him. Kansas I. It's one thing after another, man. Fewest points in a half this season. They had 20 in the first half. Peterson was 3 of 18 from the field. Career low. He has shot 30% in the past three games. Period. So all of the glowing things said about Peterson, while they are still largely true, we are seeing how he is. There is no perfect prospect coming out of college basketball this season. It's just not happening. He has hit. I don't know if it's a wall.

[Gary Parrish]

I know, don't.

[Matt Norlander]

I don't know if he's played enough to hit a wall. But ay ay yai. Arizona state outscored Kansas 12 to 6 in second chance points. And that's with Kansas having plenty of second chance opportunities. And the bench couldn't do anything either there. So do what you will with Kansas in your NCAA tournament pool. I'm convinced no matter what I do with the Jayhawks, it will wind up being wrong. As for. As for the DeBonta stuff, like, he didn't have another good shooting night. BYU doesn't have Richie Saunders anymore. The defense is bad. DeBonts alone can't save this team. BYU has plummeted defensively. Like this is a bad defensive team. And now it is. It's. It's. It's threatening to drop all the way into the 8, 9 game. And this was a program and a team with a star that we thought was going to have a good chance to be a three seed, a four seed, be a Final Four contender. Didn't happen there. I ask you, Darren Peterson and AJ DeBonsa, very likely to be the 1 and 2. Okay, so their combined draft slots would be 3. What will be the bigger number? Their combined draft slots or the number of NCAA tournament wins their teams have this year? Over, under. Push.

[Gary Parrish]

I'd go push. I think one of them just wins games, you know, like one of them just gonna go. And Devonson went for 32 on 11 shots. So you're gonna see something like that. Maybe not. Right. But I'm just not. I'm not gonna rule out. I guess this is what I said yesterday, and this is before I watched the game. It's Arizona State. And that was bad. It wasn't just that they lost. It said they were down 20 quick. And then Bill gets removed from it and. Let's stop here for a second.

[Matt Norlander]

Should he.

[Gary Parrish]

Have you watched it from every angle, I'm assuming.

[Matt Norlander]

I don't think so.

[Gary Parrish]

I don't think so either. I don't know what he's saying.

[Matt Norlander]

Two. Two. He's gone. I didn't like that in the moment, but I also didn't hear what he said, so.

[Gary Parrish]

I didn't hear what he said. It didn't. But. But on mute. It didn't look like he deserved that. So the whole thing was just weird. And then Peterson goes, I think 3 of 18 from the field. I'm just going to assume at the end of the day that a team with Bill Self on the sideline and Darren Peterson on the court is going

[Matt Norlander]

to win a game.

[Gary Parrish]

Like, you know, and then maybe two. And then I wouldn't rule anything out because of them. But then you, you say something like that and then somebody can go, well, did you watch them last night? They. They Played a team that's probably gonna remove that coach, like, in a few weeks. Yeah. And got. And just were nowhere in it at all. So, like, it's bad. And I. What do you make of this? Kansas is 12. I say this is. I say it with no suggestion. I just say it factually.

[Matt Norlander]

They'd say it. Yep.

[Gary Parrish]

Kansas is 12 and seven with Darren Peterson, nine and two without him. What do you make of that? I don't.

[Matt Norlander]

I really don't make something of it right now. I think that is an. I think that's enough of an overall sample size to say they're not necessarily a better team without him. I cannot get there. If he. If he sits out one more half and we see something happen, then we might have something. But I know I've picked up on that as well. Maybe there still is something. The idea that they can't. They still don't know how to play well together. But, dude, it is March 4th. Like, clock's not ticking. Like, we're there. Lost four of us. Lost four of his past six. They've got the home win over Houston in there. That's been like, the saving grace, if you will, but not going the right way. Both these teams, UIU and Kansas, they're both. They're both going very much in the wrong direction right now.

[Gary Parrish]

It was interesting. I was in studio last night. Brent Stover, ice Young, a Mecca Okafor, who recently had his number retired at UConn before they took a Quad 3 loss to Creighton. And, yeah, that was rough. That was rough. That's not the way that was supposed to go. Anyway, I thought this was interesting because I can sit here and you can sit here, and we can assume a lot of things because of our experiences, because of the coaches we talk to, because of the people we talk to for a variety of reasons, I always think it's interesting to, like, listen to somebody who's actually done it. I never try to trick you. I'm not a. I'm not a former NBA player. I didn't balance it a lot. I probably. Better than you think. It's soccer. I could probably turn a double play better than you think in baseball, but I was not a basketball star, so I never tried to pretend to be, but I wasn't. I work with basketball stars, and one of them was a Mecca Okafor last night. And one of the points he made, and I thought this was interesting and worthy of making note of, he said, listen, when you've got somebody who. Who is constantly in and out of the lineup. Every time you got to reset it, you have to reset it. Like, you play one way when he's over here in street clothes and then he puts a uniform on, he's like, hey, guys, I'm ready to play or I'm healthy enough to play, whatever. I want to be clear, Mecca wasn't casting anything. He was just like. And then suddenly we have to. All the rest of us have to change the way we play. We have to change the way we approach it. It's a reset. And they've had to do that too many times where they can't possibly be what they're supposed to be. On. On March 3rd and I, we have been. It feels like it's flown by. Like, I really can't believe we're almost to the end. Like, it just flies by. I know it. Like, it gets overwhelming, but it flies by. And we've been for a while been like, well, you know, they got time. Well, you know, give it time. Well, you know, he'll be fine. We're here, and you've got to be good. And the last thing I saw from you was not good. And you got blasted at Arizona State. I'm skeptical of what Kansas is going to be. Be able to do in this bracket. I'll never rule anything out, but it's. This is, this is not the way this was supposed to go.

[Matt Norlander]

You're not talking like a guy who thinks that they're going to win two games. I, I'm really tempted to say the larger number will be their combined draft slot. I don't. Do you have any confidence right now, if BYU had to play an NCAA tournament game two days from now, it would win that game?

[Gary Parrish]

No. And some of it is Richie Saunders, but some of it's just they, they. They turn the wrong way. Like, Richie. If Richie Saunders makes this big of a deal to your team, then, like, that's, that doesn't make any sense. Like, they're. They were 16 and one. Is that right?

[Matt Norlander]

Yeah. I mean, four, nine cents. Yeah, it's. Yeah. Not good. Not good at all. By the way, that was the largest loss to an unranked team for BYU since 2020. So not good. They've also lost three straight games to unranked opponents for the first time since 2022. Now allowing 85 points a game in their last 13. In the first 17. BYU is allowing 68 and change. Before we do bubble stuff here, just let's at least, let's also talk Iowa State real quick here, because they don't really apply to all this. Cyclones were not, they're they're not right now what they have been. They were not able to get a win on the road against Arizona. That's understandable, but they lost by 16 on Monday night. Also, this is Kansas, BYU, Iowa State. These are teams that are taking on more losses than wins. As of late, ISU has lost three of four and four of seven overall. TJ Oxalberger's team is 24 and six. Kind of dancing between that two and three line. We're not surprised by the loss. It comes off the surprising loss at home to Texas Tech. Any quickie thoughts on on that from Monday night on the Cyclones, I didn't want to absolve them entirely because it Arizona is really good, but I was surprised by the relative no show by by the Fighting Otzel burgers there.

[Gary Parrish]

I was too. Arizona's locks up outright Big 12 title but for Iowa State, like their resume is so strong that it's so hard to move them down too far. Like you start, this is what I do every day. If you're ever wondering, I know you're not, but if you're ever wondering, how do you do the top 25 1? When a team loses, I just like go, okay, now let's look at the team below them. Compare it. Should they be below them? If so, move them. Now let's look at the next one. And when you start doing that with Iowa State, you don't get very far. So I have them ninth in the top 25 and one on Wednesday morning. Even after the loss on Monday night, I'd still project them as a three seed in this moment as a possible two seed by the time we get to selection Sunday. I was surprised they didn't show up like you said on Monday, but their resume is still like top three seed at worst strong.

[Matt Norlander]

Okay, it's time to get some bubble teams, I think. Unless you got anything else on KU or byu, I think I'm done with them.

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[Gary Parrish]

And it's it's bubble talk time. Final score UCLA 72. Number nine, Nebraska 52. That's in poly Pavilion. Do you have a Do you have a proper understanding for what Mick Cronin has done this season inside Poly Pavilion in the Pacific time zone? I know it gets a little complicated when you do, but I don't.

[Matt Norlander]

The audience does. Why don't you inform the people?

[Gary Parrish]

I was going to let you, but if you want me to, I'll do it.

[Matt Norlander]

Go ahead.

[Gary Parrish]

I'm going to have to call it up, though, so you're going to bear with me for a second.

[Matt Norlander]

I've got it. I've got it.

[Gary Parrish]

I've got it. Ucla. Ucla. I thought I was setting you up perfectly. I thought I set you up perfectly. That's exactly the way Stove and Zook would set me up. And you just were like, why don't you. This would be like, what Just happened. Zook and Stove look at me and Kiana, whoever. And they look at me and they're like, hey, GP that was pretty wild what Big Cronin did last night. What'd you think about that? And they're. And. And. And then they're like. And then I'm like, well, what did you think about that stuff?

[Matt Norlander]

You should do that, actually. You should do that.

[Gary Parrish]

I'm doing it tonight. I'm doing it tonight. First question tonight. Looks gonna be like, gp It's March. How you feeling? I'm say, how you feeling? We're just gonna leave it there.

[Matt Norlander]

Just send that potato right back to him. Okay, here's the context. Here's at least what I have. We'll see if GP has anything additional. UCLA has three wins at home over top 10 teams this season at the time the game was played. So, yeah, it's a win over top 10 Nebraska, easily top 10 win. Also won against number four Purdue back on January 20th, and then beat number 10 Illinois all of two weeks ago. How about this? Greatest coach in UCLA history. It's the first time.

[Gary Parrish]

Yeah.

[Matt Norlander]

Bruins.

[Gary Parrish]

Yeah.

[Matt Norlander]

Have ever won.

[Gary Parrish]

That's right.

[Matt Norlander]

Three games at home against top 10 teams in the same season. Come on now.

[Gary Parrish]

180 inside Poly Pavilion.

[Matt Norlander]

Correct. There's. There are. They're also in regulation. Didn't they lose one and didn't they lose one at home?

[Gary Parrish]

Right. That's right. I accepted qualifiers well.

[Matt Norlander]

I mean, the qual. The qualifier matters. They lost in double OT at home to Indiana, so that was the only home loss, but undefeated in regulation nonetheless. Cronin said last night, he said, quote, this is the best we've played all year. And they brought out the best in us. We went from our worst defensive effort to our best defensive effort. End quote. Trent Perry, 20 points and seven boards. UCLA hit 10 triples. It was a wire to wire when Nebraska's worst loss of the season. Oh, by the way, UCLA has now won six straight home games against ranked opponents. And how about this? Donovan Dent, 46 and 2. 46 and 2. Name that band. Name that song. What band? 46.

[Gary Parrish]

Radiohead.

[Matt Norlander]

No. No.

[Gary Parrish]

Tool.

[Matt Norlander]

There we go. There we go.

[Sponsor Voice 2]

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[Gary Parrish]

Tool. 46 and 2. I don't know the word, but that's it, right?

[Matt Norlander]

You're on your lithium grind. Donovan Dent has 46 assists and two turnovers in his last four games. He is the only CBS Sports research with this. Nugget is the only player in the last 30 seasons with at least 45 dimes and two or fewer turnovers. In a four game span. 46 and two for Donovan Dent. Good job. UCLA is a bubble team. It's in the field right now as a result of this win. Clearly put them on the 10 line. That's a nice dub there. Late night dub over the Cornhuskers out in polypli.

[Gary Parrish]

Pulling 46 and 2 like on no Sleep is pretty impressive.

[Matt Norlander]

I think that was good. I didn't know if you'd have it. I didn't know if you'd get it off of the 96th album Enema, by the way. So.

[Gary Parrish]

So, yeah, I love that album. Or I loved it when I was young and angry and stuff. I don't know that I would love it now. I'm not mad anymore. But I used to be young and mad and I love Tool and Nine Inch Nails. I actually tried to listen to Nine Inch Nails like some point within the past six months and I was like, I love Trent Reznor. But I was like, man, did I really used to be this mad, you know?

[Matt Norlander]

Yeah, nothing wrong with it.

[Gary Parrish]

I was that mad. That's the thing.

[Matt Norlander]

I was.

[Gary Parrish]

But I worked through it. I worked through it. I'm fine now.

[Matt Norlander]

Final Sports Viral still hits for me,

[Gary Parrish]

but you know, I love the Downward spiral. Okay. One of my favorite concept albums, but it is. It is really angry. It is so mad. Final score Cincinnati 90, BYU 68. We touched on this from the Cougar side. Let's touch on it from the Cincinnati side. Yes. West Miller was crying on camera to Cincinnati fans not too long ago and now he's got the hottest team in the country. Makes sense of that.

[Matt Norlander]

Yeah. Top 10 teams inarguably. Not even since. If not even if you go. Since the winning streak. If you just go back a month and factor in a loss or two, this is still one of the 10 most efficient teams out there. Mustafa Cham has become like a borderline all American. Just incredible. He's averaging close to 20 points, basically a double double in the last six games. Cincinnati is 6 and 1 in this past 7, 17 and 13 now. Banging on the door to be in the bubble mix. It's. It has to win at TCU this weekend to have a real shot. But they have found something here. This did not even allow BYU to have a. A moment of hope from the. From quite literally the jump gp. So extremely impressive win. Still more work to do but Cincinnati and it's at least in the conversation, which is a, which is a drastic reverse course from when this team was 11 and 12. Quite literally less than A month ago with that home loss to West Virginia, which prompted what GP was referencing there before. And Wes Miller is coaching for his job. Like they don't make the tournament, he might not hold on, but he is. He has been able to at least give himself a real chance. My understanding is if Cincinnati does find a way to get into the NCAA tournament, he will keep his job. So credit to the players for rallying. Job is not done though. Gotta. Gotta win it on the road against tcu. So we'll see if they can do that this weekend.

[Gary Parrish]

Hey, speaking of TCU. 73, number 10, Texas Tech 65. That's. Hey, what other bubble team is going to add a quad one win over a top ten team on the road in the final week of the regular season?

[Matt Norlander]

0. Is TCU a lock?

[Gary Parrish]

I was asked this specifically last night and I said no, not yet. Because. And I even. Like I. I channeled you. I said it. I actually said, you can probably find it in my head. A lock has to be. Everything that happens between now and selection Sunday can be a loss. And you're still fine.

[Matt Norlander]

Yes.

[Gary Parrish]

And I don't know that that's true with TCU right now, do you?

[Matt Norlander]

I'm so. I thought we talked about this on HQ last night. I am a. I am a stickler for the lock terminology.

[Gary Parrish]

And although I'm with you, I came with you.

[Matt Norlander]

Correct. And although I can't fact myself, fact check myself in full, I believe it's true. I don't think I've ever been wrong when I've declared a team a lock. I've never been proven wrong.

[Gary Parrish]

Oh, this is going to be good. Josh, hold on to this for a second.

[Matt Norlander]

Go ahead and find it. I'm not calling them a LOC block. I want to, but I can't quite get there right now. Resume based metrics 38 in strength of record, 38 in KPI, 36 in WAB. They're doing good there. They have a loss and a win in every single quadrant. The high end wins are extremely good. I think TCU is about as close to a lock as you could be without technically getting there. The win over Florida is monumental. This one at Texas Tech nearly as massive, arguably maybe even bigger because this was a road win, albeit against a shorthanded team. But they also have the win over Florida. There's more than just that. They've got the home win over Iowa State, which is also pretty good. They've got a neutral win over Wisconsin that's carrying them. Those are offsetting home loss To New Orleans, at Utah, not good. Home to Notre Dame, obviously a bad loss at Colorado, not ideal. So it's all over the map here for the Horned Frogs, but I think they're going to get there. And how about this? They have now three wins over top 10 opponents this season. That is a school record. They have two wins ever in their history over an AP top 10 opponent on the road. One of them was last night. The other was Kansas just a few years ago. And I do think Jamie Dixon is going to get TCU to the tournament. If you didn't pick up on it, I don't blame you. But if and when they get there, Froggies, they're four times in five seasons. Before that, they made the tournament once in 23 years. So he has done a wonderful job. And. And as a program here, TCU has been able to win 10 games in the league, in league play for the first time since 97, 98. It was a member of the whack the last time TCU got this many wins. Double digits in conference play. As close to a lock without being a lock, but very, very close.

[Gary Parrish]

Jamie Dixon, what he did at PIT hasn't been replicated since he left. And what he did, what he's doing at TCU has never been done.

[Matt Norlander]

So, like, yes, it is fair that we don't. We don't need to dive into this right now.

[Gary Parrish]

Right.

[Matt Norlander]

You can make the case that because of his personality, not, not super outspoken, he doesn't have a lot of quotes that you can call off the top of your head or that are shared. And because he hasn't made a Final Four, all of that. But Jamie Dixon probably is one of the five most underappreciated coaches in college basketball over the past four decades. When you look at what he has done at these two places. So that's just my take.

[Gary Parrish]

I agree. Final score, Miami University 74, Toledo 72. The RedHawks are 30. And oh, keep them out of the tournament and we're going to riot. We'll riot. We'll fight. We'll fist fight.

[Matt Norlander]

Not quite a lock yet. One more win and it's a lock. One more win and it's a lock. And I mean that. If they, if they run the table in the regular season, luck. The committee will not keep out a team that did not lose a game in the regular season from the tournament. They could lose by 70 in the first game of the Mac tournament, which won't happen. They will be in, but they got to do one more. It's at Ohio on this upcoming weekend. This game. Oh my gosh. It was lemon booty. Lemon booty. Miami in the past 12 games, six of them, half of their games have been decided by a bucket or have gone on to be decided in overtime. It is, it is something. Watching this team. It is now 7.0. I credit to ESPN. I saw the stat. Miami is 7.0 this season. GP in games decided by one possession. It's only the third team since the early 1960s to have this many wins without a loss in games decided by a bucket. Georgia Tech was 70 and 62. 63 in one possession. Games.

[Gary Parrish]

I remember that.

[Matt Norlander]

DePaul in 83, 84. DePaul. Love it. Did it 7 0. And now Miami this season 7 0. When the game is decided by one possession, it's now 30 0. Joining Gonzaga 2021, Kentucky 14 15, Wichita State 13 14, Vegas 1991 and Indiana 78, 79.

[Gary Parrish]

That's a hell of a list.

[Matt Norlander]

Only teams since seating began. Those are the only teams. There were six of them since seating began in 79 to start a season. 30 0. I will note, you know, it's a minor discrepancy for the committee's purposes. This is a 27.0team and it's not a 30.0team. It has three non division one games. Those games and their results and the margins, they aren't. They aren't considered. I think for practical purposes, whatever record they have, whatever wins they have will probably be acknowledged. But from an official capacity, it's a 27.0team. I pointed that out. People thought I was anti Miami. I'm dude, you exposing yourself as a casual. I'm very much not anti Miami. Just letting you know. Like 30 know is a big, nice round number. But technically it's 27 and oversis D1 opponents. And that's the minor discrepancy that, you know, it matters all the same if One of those D D2 D3 games was a game that was, you know, against Virginia Tech instead, we might have a different result and this wouldn't be an undefeated team. And so I, I think that context is also important.

[Gary Parrish]

It's fine. Let me ask you a question. And it's fine. Like something you all need to learn about fans is they, they get mad anytime you say something they don't want to hear. Even if factual. Even if it's factual, it doesn't matter. I could be like, hey fans, this is a lamp right here. Look at this. That's a lamp. You see that? And if they hated lamps and they didn't want to hear that about lamps. They'd be mad about that. But it's true. That's a lamp. I just showed you a lamp. Fans don't like facts sometimes when it flies in the face of what they enjoy. Let me ask you a question.

[Matt Norlander]

Throw it at me.

[Gary Parrish]

You would leave them out with two losses?

[Matt Norlander]

I don't think so.

[Gary Parrish]

Okay, me neither. And I don't even want to have that conversation again.

[Matt Norlander]

Yeah. I'm resisting the conversation until it actually becomes something in our reality. So. There's been so much energy, like, it's gone the way that I knew it wouldn't.

[Sponsor Voice 2]

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[Matt Norlander]

There's been so much energy about what might be. Can we just let. What happened is first. Can we just get there? All of this discussion and dialogue just. It's predictable and it's unfortunate.

[Gary Parrish]

We're in the. We are in the discussion and dialogue business.

[Matt Norlander]

What do you think we're doing here? Yeah, but it's not even that. It's. It's all based on hypotheticals at this point. We're not even there, so we can keep chatting. I'm good on it, but there's been a lot of just, like, what if and yada, yada. Team hasn't lost a game yet. Hasn't lost. When Miami loses, come talk to me. Still hasn't happened.

[Gary Parrish]

Feels like you were yelling at Bruce Pearl right then.

[Matt Norlander]

No, it's not. It's not. It's far from even Bruce Pearl. It's just the general discourse around. Around the Redhawks. But.

[Gary Parrish]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Next time.

[Matt Norlander]

Hey.

[Gary Parrish]

Next time, just text it to bp. I got. I got things to do. I ain't got time for you.

[Matt Norlander]

I can acknowledge two things at once. A lot of it is annoying, but it is a very, very good thing that there is an undefeated team in the first week of March, and that is. That is propelling even more content and discussion around college basketball, even if some of it is predictably lacking the proper amount of context around it. That's all.

[Gary Parrish]

Texas A&M 96. Kentucky 85. Buckyball.

[Matt Norlander]

Buckyball.

[Gary Parrish]

That was nice. Hey, they blew them out. Did you see that run? Do you have it in front of you? What the run was?

[Matt Norlander]

I do. It was 29 to 3. I was actually. I was on the phone when it happened, so I had the stuff up, but I was talking and there was a lot going on. And then the next thing I know, they're just running them out of the gym. So I actually didn't. I didn't absorb the run as it was happening in real time. I just kind of looked and I was like, double take situation. But yeah, 1.27 points per possession for A&M in this one. One more window lock status for Texas A m. Good bubble win. 13 made threes and 57 bench points. Did. I love the. I love the quote from Bucky afterward. Did you see it?

[Gary Parrish]

I did not.

[Matt Norlander]

I'm not coaching basketball. Afraid of my own shadow. Basketball is a war. We pick people up at 94ft because the court is 94ft, not 40ft. We play to live. We don't play not to die. End quote. Oh, geez. One of the best quotes of the season. I love the. The court is 94ft. It's not 40ft. He's damn right about that. And people got an issue. They got a problem with themselves. A M8 and 2 in quad one and quad two. 37 in the strength of record, 41 in WAB right now. Top 43 in predictives. Probably on the 10 line. Not quite a lock. One more win will do it.

[Gary Parrish]

You're going to be one of those pronunciation guys, aren't you?

[Matt Norlander]

Ken Palm has swayed me.

[Gary Parrish]

He's right. It's just weird. It's a weird thing to hear, but he's right.

[Matt Norlander]

He. Did you. Did you see his post from like a week ago?

[Gary Parrish]

Somebody sent it somewhere and I saw it.

[Matt Norlander]

He's right about it now. Now what he was saying was. Is more. You know, this is. These are words as opposed to why am I blanking? My brain's not working right now. Acronyms. But he's right. If. If you. If you hail something in New York City, you don't hail a cob. You hail a cab.

[Gary Parrish]

I actually hailed a COB one time. I wrote David Cobb to work.

[Matt Norlander]

You did?

[Gary Parrish]

I wrote David Cobb to the studio one day. CBS Broadcast Center.

[Matt Norlander]

Really? How'd that go for you?

[Gary Parrish]

It was fine. He's a good. He's. He's. He's good. He just let me get on his shoulders. He carried me.

[Matt Norlander]

To quote Pomeroy, if you have a great core strength, you do not have rock hard obs. If you scored a touchdown in the Super bowl in 2012, you did not celebrate by dobbing. Chris Weber did not play for the FOB5. If you are a chatty person, you do not have the gift of gob. So he's saying that's why it should be web. Yeah, those are also words. Instead of short for wins above bubble. I like saying WAB more than Wob. I like the way that wab comes out of my mouth more than wap. So that's just me.

[Gary Parrish]

I'm gonna leave that right there. I don't think that's anything. I don't think that's anything I can say. I don't think. Hey, I remember when Tin Lost Tubby was a thing for UK fans. They would text me, they'd be like, why? You think we're being too hard on 10 loss tubby? That's what they would say to me. And I was like, I don't know. I just. You had like a redneck shooting a rifle at a picture of Tubby Smith. It seemed a little over the line. And they were be like, he lost. They were. They were like. And then. And then Toby was like, you know what? I'm going to leave Kentucky to go to Minnesota because they probably. Because they probably won't shoot a gun at a picture of me in Minneapolis.

[Matt Norlander]

Yep.

[Gary Parrish]

Yeah. Anyway, so. But they did nickname him ten Lost Tubby. I remember that being a thing. And so I. Now we've got 11 lost Pope for a second straight season, 24 and 12 last season, 1911 this season.

[Matt Norlander]

We.

[Gary Parrish]

Okay, how we doing?

[Matt Norlander]

Yeah, Mitch Barnhart's going to retire. And then Mark Pope had a very sweet post saying he can't wait to make some more memories. And then less than 12 hours later, they got waxed at A M. That is a memory.

[Gary Parrish]

It's fair. In fairness, that is a memory for Kentucky fans. They might pull out their guns. It's a memory. It's a memory.

[Matt Norlander]

Good win for A and M. Kentucky is Kentucky and Kansas every game. What are we getting? So I don't know, more bubble stuff. These are all the bubble winners, by the way.

[Gary Parrish]

Hey, we got it. VCU 70, George Mason 65. I watched this one. Former MC18, media day, pre pandemic. George Mason has really fallen off VCU.

[Matt Norlander]

They're in there.

[Gary Parrish]

They're in there. They's right there.

[Matt Norlander]

One loss for the Rams since January 10th. GP5 and 7 in quad one and quad two, but 23 and 7 overall as of this morning. 42nd in resume average. That's healthy. 50 in predictives. Needs to be a little bit better, not in, but in the conversation for sure. Needs to win at Dayton this weekend and then I think make the A10 semis at minimum to build a debatable case. But if you were unaware, vcu, you know, very much in the fight to get the A10 to be a multi bid league this season. George Mason's also been a solid team but it's really let a few opportunities slip through its hands over the past month there. But a good win for the rams and the A10, you know, decent chance it gets. It's two. You know, St. Louis obviously the best team in the league and and comfortably in the field right now. We'll see if. If the Rams or someone else that can be a bid thief in the conference tournament can turn that into a two bid conference.

[Gary Parrish]

All right. Virginia Tech 72, Boston College 63 what are we doing?

[Matt Norlander]

There's just still. So I. I included this because they're still in the picture. Like you might not. This is again, the bubble is ass. But the Hokies, although they're still on the outside looking in, feeling Those lighters, y'. All. Eight and ten in quad one and quad two with a quad three loss. But 1911 overall outside the top 50 and five of the 17 sheet metrics still in. If they beat Virginia this weekend, that would be a sweep of the Wahoos. Hokies wouldn't be that far out. So this is just a reminder of how bad the bubble is. Virginia Tech is still in the picture. That's all.

[Gary Parrish]

Combined ACC record between these two teams. 11 and 23.

[Matt Norlander]

Yep. Not good. Leave them.

[Gary Parrish]

Leave them both out. And don't. You better add DJ Burns before you want me to care about your power conference teams with a combined record of 1123.

[Matt Norlander]

I hear you.

[Gary Parrish]

You better. You better. You better bring in DJ Burns before I start paying attention.

[Matt Norlander]

Only other bubble winner Auburn B LSU at 16 and 14 next.

[Gary Parrish]

I was actually rooting hard for Auburn if only because that would have been awful for Stephen. And I don't wish bad things for. I don't. I don't like watching people struggle. And he. His program has become like the face of mediocre. Mediocre. Mediocre. I was going to do a couple of different directions. His program has become the face of like a mediocre power conference basketball program in a bloated league. Mediocre. And to lose to LSU last night would have been really bad. Like really. It would have come down hard on him.

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[Gary Parrish]

And so I'm glad he got that. It doesn't make me change my opinion about his basketball team in any way whatsoever. But he didn't have to spend Wednesday dealing with what he would have had to deal with if he'd have lost that game last night.

[Matt Norlander]

Agreed. Bubble losers. Not that many. On Tuesday night. We'll go to Missouri. Lost at home to Oklahoma. Porter Moser Good win I think Porter Mosher I included Oklahoma in my kind of hot seat overview situation earlier this week on the site. I think Oak I think Porter will hold on to his job or if not like I don't know if shirts leaves say St. Louis maybe he will try and get another one. I don't know. But this was an important win for the Sooners just to continue to get some pile some wins they've had, some they're not in the tournament picture Missouri losing GP the Tigers do not have a trustworthy defense whatsoever. That's unfortunate. Right now they're in the field 20 and 10. They got waxed in this game 10 and 10 in the top two quadrants. That net ranking is like a mole on the nose. 59 now the net ranking is not going to win out in the committee room ultimately but safely in the field with a 59 net is slightly uncomfortable. 39th and resume average could be flirting with going to Dayton because it has like it's got Arkansas at home this weekend. You lose the Arkansas game and then if you lose your first SEC tournament game, I think Missouri's probably still in the field regardless. But I still think it's a possibility that it it blows what could have been a nine seed fate into something that's much worse. So I was surprised that the loss came by as many points as it did and Mizzou just wasn't able to keep it competitive.

[Gary Parrish]

But keep in mind, like I said on a previous show, they were on the right side of the bubble with four regular season games to go and they won the next two. Then they dropped last night. But I think they're still fine. I think they're going to be fine, but I wouldn't lose out if I were them. Oklahoma State 111, UCF 104 in overtime in Orlando. That's a Quadrant 3 loss for the Knights. If I man, I know I don't if I know one thing about the last week of the regular season, it's that you don't want to be a coach on the hot seat with a bubble team that takes a Quadrant 3 loss. That was not good. That was not good.

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[Matt Norlander]

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[Gary Parrish]

You don't want to be a coach on the hot seat last week of the regular season with a bubble team that takes a Quadrant 3 loss.

[Matt Norlander]

I don't know if Dawkins is on the hot seat though. I think I think he's one enough to stave that off. GP so I don't know if it applies here but this was ucf. What are you doing?

[Gary Parrish]

Why did you do that? Why did you do that?

[Matt Norlander]

You literally. You're one win away from being a lock. Home against Baylor, home against Oklahoma State. Those are non NCAA tournament teams, and you lose both of them. Now 29.9seed ish, I guess, at West Virginia. Just don't mess around like Missouri and UCF. Like, you're in. You're in that 8, 9 situation. And now you just decide to take these losses. You're just. You're flirting with a little bit of fire. Don't let Virginia Tech get hot. It's on the outside looking in. Cincinnati's trying to bust through the door. Don't be squandering these opportunities. So there were only three bubble losers, I think on Tuesday. Missouri was on ucf. Barely a bubble team. But it's not a lock, so I guess I got to qualify it. And then San Diego State is just about out of Runway here. Had road games at New Mexico and Boise state, both quad one opportunities. Lost both Felda, 19 and nine. Gonna need to beat UNLV next and then probably make the Mountain west title game at minimum. Aztec 7 and 9 combined in quad 1 and quad 2. Have a quad 3 loss. 66 and strength of record 56 in WAB. Definitely not in right now. And it might be too tough to turn that ship around. Big run has to happen in the Mountain west tournament. So I think those are your three bubble losers from Tuesday.

[Gary Parrish]

All right, let's get to the Wednesday whip around this. This is what happens when you let somebody who thinks everything needs 7,000 words Plan A show.

[Matt Norlander]

Look at that. Are you kidding me right now? We're up to the next block, and we're not even. We're 38 minutes and we're going. We're better than your pace, buddy. Let's go.

[Gary Parrish]

Hey, let's go. Hey. I'll concede the point. You're doing all right. All right. You're doing all right. You're keeping it moving.

[Matt Norlander]

That's right.

[Gary Parrish]

Keeping it moving. I'm proud of you. Hey, all right. Should we get a break? Work for partner, all that stuff?

[Matt Norlander]

Yeah, partners. Let's go.

[Gary Parrish]

Yeah, partners.

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[Gary Parrish]

Norlander, guide us through what else we need to know from Tuesday night. And don't forget, we are still contractually obligated. We're good to do a Naismith watch.

[Matt Norlander]

We see the Wednesday whip around leftovers. Georgia beats Bama, locks up a bid in the process. Mike White's going to get Georgia to back to back NCAA tournaments and that has not happened for this program since 0102 under Jim Herrick, who was erroneously killed on social media earlier this week. Jim Herrick is alive and well. Did you see that?

[Gary Parrish]

Yes, I did. I was like, I got killed.

[Matt Norlander]

This man, he is alive.

[Gary Parrish]

I got sad for a minute. I got sad for a minute because like one of my little guys ain't been doing so good in school. And I was, I was like, man, well, maybe one day, Jim, Harriet can run a basketball program again. I'll send her to that university and we can. We'll make straight A's. No problem. Remember the academic fraud thing they got?

[Matt Norlander]

I do. We don't. Yes, I do remember.

[Gary Parrish]

I could tell you a funny story about Robert Dozier someday. It'll be hilarious. But we ain't got time today.

[Matt Norlander]

Fair enough. Georgia gets the win. Wins, Wins. Big wins. Impressively 98, 88 over Alabama. Crimson Tides winning streak has snapped at 8. Georgia has its most wins in a season 21 in 12 or 11 years. Good on them. Cannon catchings. First Georgia player with 30 and 5 versus a ranked opponent since Aunt Edwards did it in 2019 under Tom Crean. Georgia hit 13 triples in this game and a good win for the dogs. Bama, you know, had been playing really well. Got caught on the road against Nestle. Tournament team. Completely acceptable. Any quickie thoughts on the game?

[Gary Parrish]

Nope.

[Matt Norlander]

Okay. Carolina and St. John's both had home games that they flirted with losses to inferior teams. Both got the win. Carolina gets it done. After it came down to the final possessions, final seconds. Luca Bogovac was awesome in this one. Had six triples. His best game in a Carolina uniform for sure. 67, 63 final. Now Clemson had opportunities. Dylan Hunter hit a big shot late and then he couldn't get the bucket draw contact in order to get this game to potentially to overtime. So Clemson loses. Carolina gets the win. Carolina did not lose at home.

[Gary Parrish]

Right.

[Matt Norlander]

This season. 18 0. First undefeated season at home since 16 17. And with 18 home victories, that's the most wins in a single season at home in the history of Carolina's program. They won 17 back in 2011. 2012. Good on the Tar Heels. Johnny's just to combine these two. Take them if you way if you want. Johnny's got a scare from Georgetown down 10. It looked like the senior night there was going to get spoiled. Didn't wind up happening. Were able to rally late. Georgetown had a shot. Caleb Williams not that one. Three at the buzzer didn't fall. Johnny's win. They get the W. Which means that the Big east race will go to the final game. St. John's Place at Seton hall this week on Weekend UConn plays at Marquette.

[Gary Parrish]

Yeah, probably going to be co Biggies champs. At least that's the way the point spread suggests this should go. As for the North Carolina Clemson thing, that's one of those. That's. You get the shot sheet. It's in the. It's right there in the notes and it's like 18 and oh at home this season. Most wins at home in the history of North Carolina basketball. And you're like, really? Because North Carolina obviously had like elite national championship winning teams and we've never thought of this team as that and yet it's done things that no other Carolina team has done. Now some of this is just the nature of the schedule. We play more games than we ever played, but still like 18 and 0 at home is. Is pretty impressive, particularly when you had to do some of that without. Without your best player. Update us on Caleb Wilson. When we gonna see him play again?

[Matt Norlander]

That's the question. Will he return this weekend for the big game against Duke? No indication that that's going to happen, but he's been on the record saying you will see me play in a Tar Heels uniform again. So maybe they hold off a little bit while longer and make it the ACC tournament. Just get him healthy and, and get him back on the floor as soon as possible. It'd be great if he did return a little more juice to a rivalry game that, that needs no more. Honestly. Duke's gonna try and avenge avenge its loss. Carolina and Duke, by the way, only high major teams this season that have not lost at home. Carolina can be the only one. If it could somehow pull off an upset in enemy territory this weekend, it has won under more unexpected circumstances. Before we know that to be the case, let's talk about some dominant teams here. Florida, Duke and Zona all played in the past two nights, all won easily. Florida just as expected. Like it's Mississippi State. So like what do you want from me? We knew that Florida was going to win big. And win big it did 108 to 74. Here's the data behind it. Standalone Regular Season Champs Florida has gotten 100 points in back to back conference games for only the second time in program history. The other one came back in 1975. Florida is the first team to score 105 or more points and win by 30 plus in back to back SEC games since Kentucky in 1971. And Florida is the second team in this in the SEC in the last 65 years to win 10 straight conference games in a single season with each of those wins coming by nine or more points. I believe I referenced that on the previous show. 9596 Kentucky was the other one. Duke raised state GP on Monday night 9364 stunningly, Duke has now won back to back ACC regular season championships for the first time since they won five in a row from 96 to 01. Hit the 15 second back button. Hear me say that again. That is accurate. It is stunning but it is true. Duke is 28 2. Best start for them through 30 games since they were 29. 1 and 9899 in that epic team. Yet again Duke held a team well below its scoring average in a game. Wolfpack were averaging 84 per night, had 64 at home against Duke, Boozer 26 points, nine boards, Dame SAR was awesome, 16 points, three threes had eight boards and Caleb Foster has now had back to back games with at least six assists for the first time in his career. And then Zona GP outright regular season title for the third time in five years under Tommy Lloyd. He has now passed Brad Stevens for the most wins in the first five years of a head coaching career. John Shire's done the same thing for the four wins so Shire could conceivably beat Tommy Lloyd's mark a year from now after they just both beat Brad Stevens for the four and five year mark. Arizona now has 10 ranked wins this season matching Duke. Tommy Lloyd has 31 ranked wins in his first five seasons as a head coach. That ties Tom Izzo for the most ever. And yeah this is just team after team after team. Top of they're just exerting their dominance. I know there's not any of these grand takeaways but you saw what Arizona and Duke did on Monday and then you saw what Florida did as expected on Tuesday and it does feel like there is a separation that is formed at the top of the sport with with about five of these teams, four or five of these teams and and they someone's gonna Beat them somewhere somehow in the tournament. I'm just not, I'm not convinced it's gonna happen before the Final Four, that's all.

[Gary Parrish]

So a few thoughts on all this. Yeah, you're exactly right. Like, think of all the men, all the people who have coached men's Division 1 college basketball. And we are watching right now, Tommy Lloyd win more games in his first five years than anybody's ever done. And next year that record will be broken. He will own, he will own that record for less than a year, even though he's done it better than all the people who've ever done it. Some of this is again by product of just more games than we, we used to play. But some of it is we lost K, we lost Roy, we lost Jim Boeheim. All time greats. And this is the next batch. Like, this is like John Shire, Tommy Lloyd, Todd Golden. This is the next batch of, of hall of Fame level coaches. And with John, I, this is interesting to me because when you have these succession plans, you never know how they'll go. You could remove the names from head coach at this school and just say, these are the records, these are the recruiting rankings and you would not be able to tell that Mike Krzyzewski is no longer the coach at Duke. It would just look the same. You'd be like, I guess, yeah, it just looks the same. Nothing has really changed. And maybe that's not right because like John runs his program the way he wants to run. His program schedules in the way he wants to schedule. I just mean in terms of the results. If you just surface level, look at the results, recruiting rankings, all the stuff you can look at, nothing's changed. Duke is still Duke. Leave it to Beaver. All that stuff with Arizona, like, like I'm through talking about their flaws and nitpicking them. And I don't know if you can win. Like you can beat anybody doing what you're doing. I don't, I don't know how exactly, but like they can win the whole thing. Shooting zero three pointers, they're excellent. And then with Florida, let me ask you this, and I ask it from an honest place. I'm happy to be corrected. I said this last night on tv. He got clipped, it got passed around. There was pushback. I was asked who's going to be the fourth number one seed? All right, so it's Michigan, Arizona. Dude, those three are locked up.

[Matt Norlander]

Florida.

[Gary Parrish]

Here's what I said. I said if Florida wins out, it will be Florida. And it doesn't matter. What anybody else does. We could just keep it there because that's the point. Here's my, here's my argument. If Florida wins out, Florida will be the outright champ of the top rated league in the net and the conference tournament champ of the top rated league in the net and they will have something like 15 quadrant one wins because they will start in the quarterfinals and you can't really add anything barring a surprise in the SEC other than Quadrant one wins at that point. So they're going to have like 50 if they went out. It's all based on if they went out. They'll have like 15 quadrant wins and be the outright SEC champs, top rated league in the country and the SEC tournament champs. And UConn, even if it wins out, is going to have like nine or ten Quadrant one wins. Yes. A win over Florida at MSG back in early December. I got it. I understand there's nothing you're going to say or. Yeah, type into the chat that I go. Oh, I didn't think about that. I thought about it all. I thought about it all. But we're talking about a Florida team, outright Champ, tournament champ, 15 quadrant one wins from the best league in the country according to the algorithm. The NCAA tournament cares about how is that not a one scene?

[Matt Norlander]

Because it has three more losses and lost the head to head on a neutral floor against UConn and it will

[Gary Parrish]

have like six, five or six, seven

[Matt Norlander]

more quarter one will still have more combined quad one and quad two wins than Florida in that situation.

[Gary Parrish]

If, if it will be higher computers at that point. They just.

[Matt Norlander]

Yeah, but UConn will be ahead in the resume stuff. If UConn wins out and Florida wins out, UConn will be the final one seed.

[Gary Parrish]

I'm not sure we just saw this.

[Matt Norlander]

We just saw this where Houston had almost every single advantage on Iowa State at the top 16 in season. Reveal. Iowa State got the benefit of the of the one and only home game against Houston and Iowa State was given the final one seed as a result of head to head. I, I would never say never if UConn in Florida went out for the rest of the season. There's a three loss difference between those two teams. Florida will be ahead of UConn in the predictives. UConn will be the final one seed because it will also be in that situation a double champ of a power league and that will be taken into account. And with the head to head, I cannot envision the committee giving Florida the final one in that situation. If Yukon loses one more time Florida wins out. Then it's a different conversation. But if both of these teams win out, UConn will also have more combined quad one and quad two wins than Florida. I think they will have enough in their column to get them the final one.

[Gary Parrish]

Totally fine. I like, I don't even feel strong enough about it, strongly enough about it to fight about it. I just think you are saying you would be asking the committee to not give a one seed to a double champ in a power conference that has a win over Florida.

[Matt Norlander]

Years where there are five one seeds they just sometimes it happens and but

[Gary Parrish]

if you give the one seed to them what you would be doing is asking the committee to. To, to not give a one seed to the outright champ of the best conference in America according to the algorithm they reference.

[Matt Norlander]

Yeah.

[Gary Parrish]

And the conference tournament to them.

[Matt Norlander]

You're also asking the committee to outright ignore a head to head result with a three loss difference on a neutral floor. So it's what, it's. What do you want?

[Gary Parrish]

Semi neutral. But I'm not going to fight you.

[Matt Norlander]

I will give you semi neutral. It is Store south. All of that. I was at the game. Florida fans were certainly not quiet in that. In that gym on that night.

[Gary Parrish]

So hey let's let that. Hey, let's let them. Let's let them settle it. We don't have.

[Matt Norlander]

If they both went out, UConn will be the final one there. And then, then there's the question of does Yukon even want the final one. It's going to go to the south in that situation. Now we've got this deal where one of those teams will be the best two probably. Which means you can't. If it's Yukon that's a two, it can't go to the east because Duke is the best one. If it's the number one overall then best one can't be in the best region. Same region as the best two. That means Yukon probably goes to the Midwest to Chicago for the second weekend. That would be Michigan. A lot of stuff to. We'll dive more into this as we get closer to selection Sunday. It's a good conversation nonetheless. I'm glad you brought it up. I didn't hear you say it but, but I understand where you're coming from. I just. The head to head I think is going to win out in that room. I, I would be very surprised if that's not the case.

[Gary Parrish]

Totally fine. I want to be clear. This is not one of those where I'm like. And there's no way like it's, it's totally subjective. I got it. I just, I, I find it hard to comprehend.

[Matt Norlander]

Losses, man. Six versus three. I, I, I bang this table every single year.

[Gary Parrish]

This is one of your sticking points. I got it.

[Matt Norlander]

It is six versus three losses. I'm sorry. That's, that's, that's, that's a big enough gap for me that it has to, has to account for something.

[Gary Parrish]

It's fine. You know what? Probably another one of those conversations we ain't even gonna really have to ever have. This is what I, this is what I additionally said on TV last night. And by the time we get to selection Sunday, this will probably just work itself out. We'll, we'll know, we won't have to fight about it. We'll, we'll know something will happen and we'll be like, that's, that's the one, that's the two. So let's just, let's move on. It's time for our weekly Nace with Watch segment. Are your go to game day foods feeling uninspired? Next time, skip the usual suspects and order Jersey Mike's. At Jersey Mike's, they make every sub to order with premium fresh sliced meat and cheesesteaks are cooked on a flat top grill. Download their app to delivery curbside or in store pickup. Jersey Mike's proud sponsor Naismith Award and a proud maker of a sub above Norlander. Still a long way to go, but right now, yeah, that much.

[Matt Norlander]

Really? Honestly, now we've come to the end of the road and I can let go because we have our winner, but let's do this just, just for kicks

[Gary Parrish]

and giggles, I think that was Boys to Men.

[Matt Norlander]

That's right.

[Gary Parrish]

Has there ever been a college basket. Has there ever been a college basketball podcast that is both reference tool and Boys to Men in the same show?

[Matt Norlander]

No one doing it like us. You're not getting this anywhere else.

[Gary Parrish]

You're not getting this anywhere else.

[Matt Norlander]

I ain't moving like us.

[Gary Parrish]

I love Maynard Keenan. Learn to swim. Learn to swim. Learn to swim. Learn to swim. Learn to swim. Learn to swim. Learn to swim. Learn to swim. Learn to swim. Learn to swim. Learn to swim. Learn to swim. Learn to swim. Learn to swim.

[Matt Norlander]

That's enough. No more.

[Gary Parrish]

Hey, before, before you tell me Cameron Boozer is your leader for the Naismith Award, all right. Would you still have AJ DeBonsa on your list? Because as I've told you, you've got to be on a top 10 Kim Bomb team. Unless you're Kevin Durant or Doug McDermott to win the Naismith Award, and he's not on a top 10 Kim Pom team. His team is. They don't win no more.

[Matt Norlander]

I know, it's bad.

[Gary Parrish]

You didn't know I knew Mater Keenan like that?

[Matt Norlander]

No. He's quoting the title track, Find it on your own lyrics.

[Gary Parrish]

It's a great title track.

[Matt Norlander]

Lyrics are something else in that one. All right, keep it moving. This is by the week. It's.

[Gary Parrish]

Oh, it's over.

[Matt Norlander]

It's over. Come on. Like the Bonsa's team can't win game, I still. Here's my order. Naismith top five.

[Gary Parrish]

The Bonsa's team cannot have premarital sex or win basketball games anymore. That's a problem. I'd like to at least do one or the other, you know? I'd like to do one or the other.

[Matt Norlander]

You're telling me I can't win basketball games and I can't have premarital relations ended?

[Gary Parrish]

I don't even know why I'm in this world no more. Just. I don't even know why I'm in the world no more. What is the point of life if you can't win a game or have premarital sex? What are we even doing?

[Matt Norlander]

I've got Cam Boozer at number one. I still have DebonSA at two. I've got Darius Acuff Jr. Third, Yaxel Lindenborg, fourth, nation's leading assist man, Jeremy Fears Jr. Fifth. That's my one through five right now.

[Gary Parrish]

I'm pretty close. I got camera Boozer one, Yaxel Lindenborg two, Keaton Wagler three, Jeremy Fears at four. And I went Joshua Jefferson, Iowa State, five.

[Matt Norlander]

He's still playing well. He actually didn't play well recently, but yeah. You have Wagler, huh? Why not six on the list? I had him six. I didn't know what to do. Wagler, Jefferson. It got close.

[Gary Parrish]

All right, let's look ahead to the next couple of nights. What we got going on tonight.

[Matt Norlander]

Well, how about that? Look at that we're gonna do. Look ahead. We got it. We got a good 10 minutes still, by the way. How about that? How about that? We're cruising Norlander.

[Gary Parrish]

I under I under I. Hey, hey. I want to. I want to apologize. When I looked at that rundown at 3:45 in the morning, I was like, what is he doing? What is he doing? Well, how does he think we're going to talk about all of this stuff? In fairness, I had to, like, tap out on some topics. You were like, well, you got to say gp I was like, nothing. Just keep it going.

[Matt Norlander]

Keep going.

[Gary Parrish]

All right, so I helped you get where we're at, but, like, you got here, too, on your own. You did a good job. I'm not. I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you, bro. I mean, I don't know. I don't. I don't know. Like, listen, I'm going to do. I'm talking to Amy and Harrison and Seth and Jim. I'm gonna be like, should he put that Virginia Tech game in there? I'm gonna ask him that. I'm gonna figure that out.

[Matt Norlander]

Bubble winner. Technically, it applied. By the way, Illinois fans, your team also destroyed an inferior opponent, Oregon. I will mention that as well. Trying to keep yourself in the conversation.

[Gary Parrish]

Got him good.

[Matt Norlander]

Stoiakovich got him. By the way, Dana Altman told me over the weekend he will be. He will not be retiring. So Altman back on the sidelines in Eugene next year. Look ahead. Situation bubble adjacent games on Wednesday. Here's your order. Minnesota at Indiana, 6:30 Eastern on Big Ten Network. Indiana has to win the game. Texas at Arkansas, 7 Eastern, ESPN2. Big one for the Longhorns. Dare I say lock with a road win there. Miami plays at SMU, 7 Eastern. ACC Network. SMU, don't lose this game. It's on your home floor. Don't be flirting with disaster. Ohio State at Penn State. Ohio State needs to win this game on the road. That is 7:30 Eastern on Peacock. We've got a bubble game on our air. Colorado State At New Mexico, 10 Eastern, CBS Sports Network. Lobos, don't blow this one. You're in a good spot. It's on your home floor. Take care of business. Not a bubble game. But just to know on CBS Sports Network before that CSU UNM game, we've got slew can win the a 10 regular season title on CBS Sports Network, 8 Eastern, at home against Loyola Chicago. Fill in anything else you want there on Wednesday. The only thing Thursday of note is Michigan at Iowa, 8 Eastern, on Peacock.

[Gary Parrish]

I. I sort of made this note. Like, last night we had a triple header and, like, two of the games had, like, legitimate bubble teams. And I know that traditionally you think of, like, the big games are, like, and it's number 11 against number 13. But right now in this week, the big games are the games that include teams like, you know, Indiana and New Mexico and, like, where you're really, like, the San Diego. Like, we had San Diego State last night. Last night. Or like, those games are massive because you're fighting for your life. Like, like Florida played last night and that was awesome. They're not fighting for their life. Some of these teams, and we'll have Monterey tonight, are fighting for their lives. And this is a fun time of the year.

[Matt Norlander]

It unquestionably is. And I know the Mountain west is going to shift to the PAC12 and all this, but there is something, there's just something about Mountain west games on CBS and CBS Sports Network. Just. It has been this way for so, so long. Just great environments, the way it sounds, the way we presented stuff. It. It. I look forward to all these Mountain west games and I'm interested to kind of see how, you know, the league is undeniably getting a downgrade moving forward. Can the PAC12 kind of fill that void? We wait and see on all that. The poll from earlier on YouTube before we get out of here.

[Gary Parrish]

GP hey, YouTube.

[Matt Norlander]

What will be the larger number? The combined draft slots for DeBons and Peterson or the combined NCAA tournament wins for their respective teams in this year's Big Dance draft? Pick number 68. And that's when you're thinking if they're going to be going 1 and 2. So 3 versus 3 total. If we allowed the push, I think push would have won. But 68, 32 there. My March 4 prediction is a combined three wins from both of those teams. I will push officially and they will wind up being equal.

[Gary Parrish]

So do you think that's BYU winning 1 or 0? How do you do that?

[Matt Norlander]

I think that is. I could very welcome to regret this. I think that is Kansas winning two and BYU winning one. I think that is what we. I think that is what we have there. Yes.

[Gary Parrish]

I could see Kansas doing absolutely anything in the tournament.

[Matt Norlander]

I could. I could as well.

[Gary Parrish]

I mean, they beat. They have beaten the number one team and got blown out by Arizona State.

[Matt Norlander]

It's crazy. It really is. I mean, it's just. I can't. I can't figure them out. I truly. It is Forrest Gump box of chocolates. Never know what you're going to get. You don't know what you're going to get with Kansas on a, on a game by game basis. And outside, by the way, I don't think we've mentioned this. I don't think outside the top 50 in adjusted offensive efficiency with quite likely the number one pick in the draft who is, you know, by most accounts an incredible offensive player. That has not been the case as of late. It's just, it's just wild. So there you go. There you have it. Hey, guess what? Time to spare.

[Gary Parrish]

Look at this. I'm gonna take like, I'm gonna take like a five minute nap.

[Matt Norlander]

That's a show.

[Gary Parrish]

I'm gonna dive into the bed back here. I'm gonna take a five minute nap, get up and do a whole nother show. You got me out of here in good time.

[Matt Norlander]

Let's go.

[Gary Parrish]

Hey, I'm proud of you.

[Matt Norlander]

Thank you.

[Gary Parrish]

Shouts to Devin Downey, Chester, S.C. terry Teagle. He's a legend. Huck Larnell. Thank you guys once again for watching and listening to the Ion College Basketball podcast. If you're not subscribed, please go subscribe anyway. Subscribe to podcast. Apple Spotify, more of us than there are of them. That should be reflected in the comments.

[Matt Norlander]

Yes, it should. Tell your friends, by the way.

[Gary Parrish]

Tell your friends about premarital sex if you got.

[Matt Norlander]

If you got. I thought you said guy pals. Gal pals. They love the college hoops. Hey, you gotta listen to this show. These guys are all over it, all the relevant stuff. They invoke premarital sex and. And one of them shouts tool lyrics every so often in the middle of a show.

[Gary Parrish]

Learn to swim, Learn to swim. Learn to swim. Learn to swim. Learn to swim. Learn to swim. Learn to swim. I love that album. Maynard Keenan, I think, makes wine now. Do you know about that?

[Matt Norlander]

He does, yeah, him and Dave Matthews. Big wine guys. Yep.

[Gary Parrish]

Isn't that interesting?

[Matt Norlander]

Yeah.

[Gary Parrish]

Good for them. And this is wild because when you're young and I've been like, I'm only ruining my own life right now by talking. All right, the rest of you can just hit close. This is where you start to feel old and also realize, like, these are real people. Because when you're young and you see Maynard Keener doing that, you're like, I don't even know. He doesn't even sound like a real person. And then I saw a video. See if you can find this somewhere. You might have seen it on your own. It just stumbled into me. I don't even know how I found it, but it's his daughter and she's at a tool show and she's taking like a selfie video and she's like. She's like, something is something. When your dad does something. It's like her dad's Maynard Keenan. I just think that's.

[Matt Norlander]

I don't know, I don't have. I don't have enema, but. But I do have lateralis, so I'll have to make that happen for you or the old vinyl behind me.

[Gary Parrish]

So what's the album that's got the live. The live recordings on it? Do you know that one album that

[Matt Norlander]

has the live recording?

[Gary Parrish]

It's before Anima, and it's got. It's got. It's like a.

[Matt Norlander]

It's got under toe.

[Gary Parrish]

I think that's it. Maybe. But those live. Those live recordings are great.

[Matt Norlander]

Anyway, anyway, tool on a Wednesday. How about that?

[Gary Parrish]

Hey, nobody else is doing this. There's other podcasts out there, but nobody else is doing it like this. We're gonna talk to you again on Friday. Till then, take.

[Matt Norlander]

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[Gary Parrish]

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[Matt Norlander]

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[Gary Parrish]

Oh, yeah, huh?

[Matt Norlander]

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[Gary Parrish]

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[Matt Norlander]

Get with the times. Right. So we shouldn't get the parachute pants. These are making a comeback, I think.

[Gary Parrish]

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