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Whitney Wolfe Heard
Lemonada.
Megan
Hi, I'm Megan and I'm so excited for you to hear my new podcast, Confessions of a Female Founder from Lemonada Media. I'm sitting down with female entrepreneurs and friends to uncover what often goes unseen when building something great. The setbacks, the sleepless nights and the laser focus that got them to where they are today. We're diving into the type of insights everyone wants to know as they're building a business. And even if you're not, don't you want to see what's happening behind the scenes? And I'm able to tap into all of this wisdom from them as I'm building my own business as ever. So we're going to play you a little sneak peek of the first episode featuring my friend Whitney Wolfe Heard, founder of Bumble. And after you listen, you can search Confessions of a Female Founder wherever you get your podcast or you can find a link in the show notes to take you there. I can't wait for you to listen.
Whitney Wolfe Heard
I'm sure the first time I ever heard about you was in Time magazine being the youngest self made billionaire female billionaire, huge.
Megan
What on earth did that feel like?
Unknown
Well, you know, it's funny, it's like at my on paper richest, I was my inward poorest.
Whitney Wolfe Heard
What does that mean to you?
Unknown
That means that what it took out of me to hit those milestones actually robbed me of my real wealth. The ability to connect with myself, to take time for myself, to focus on my physical, mental, spiritual health, to focus on my relationships, to focus on the things that actually make you the wealthiest in life. So while my financial wealth on paper was this like crazy headline and like world record thing, whatever, didn't even matter because all these other buckets were so low. And so what has been beautiful. And I, I wrote a letter to myself over the summer. Actually our stock had an all time low and I wrote a letter to myself that day and I said, today is one of the best days of my life. I said, because my other buckets of wealth are so overflowing that it just want to cry. It doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter what a stock price is today. It's not how I measure my worth.
Whitney Wolfe Heard
But what made you in that want to write a letter to yourself? How had that become a part of a practice for you?
Unknown
I just thought, you know what, I better clock in and I better check in because I want to remember this day. I want to remember this day. I want to remember that I got to a place of self growth where on a Day that should feel like the worst day in terms of riding the waves of success. Right. Things always go up and down. And I just remember I wrote myself a letter, and I just said, this is, like, the best day ever. I have healthy children. I love my husband. It's beautiful where I am. I hiked, I meditated. Like, I just reflected in this moment of gratitude of all the things I do have. And I think it's a really good reminder to people that you have to take stock of how you measure your happiness, your wealth, and how you define it.
Whitney Wolfe Heard
Take stock in your actual stock.
Unknown
That's right.
Whitney Wolfe Heard
I think it's. It's amazing how evolved you are.
Megan
It takes a lot of years for.
Whitney Wolfe Heard
Most people to be able to have that level of wisdom and an internal compass.
Megan
It really does.
Whitney Wolfe Heard
And, I mean, especially when you spent a career doing the work, the business work, how would you approach that? Or what advice, I guess, would you give to people who are listening that say, okay, well, you're saying you felt so depleted and the buckets were so low or so empty and all these other categories, but it's because of that, you were able to still get to this number and get those metrics, and isn't that the goal? And then you could fill up your cups again. Would you do it differently?
Unknown
Totally. Totally. And I think, you know, the one thing I can offer to the world is actually a blueprint of, hey, don't take this route to the top of Everest. It's not worth it. Like, the view is not worth it. Don't do it. Because the one thing you can never get back is time.
Whitney Wolfe Heard
Yeah.
Unknown
Is your precious time. And the amount of time, Meg, that I wasted on being stressed, being miserable, being overwhelmed, being paranoid about what shoe was gonna drop. You know what? I actually think I would have been more successful had I not been like that.
Whitney Wolfe Heard
But can you turn it off? I'm. I. I say this because last night I was just. You know when your brain goes in a loop.
Unknown
Yeah.
Whitney Wolfe Heard
Those 3am loops. And it's just like, you can't stop overthinking the thing. And how are you gonna address that? And, oh, gosh, with that packaging. And I want the packag packaging to look like this. And that's not the unboxing experience I had in mind. And what. How are we going to pivot? And does it matter?
Unknown
I think you have to really take a deep breath and say, you know what? How big of a deal is this? And I would size it up.
Whitney Wolfe Heard
Yeah.
Unknown
Is this going to matter? I used to Use the rule of nine. So I like the number five better. So, like, will this matter in five minutes? Yes. Is it going to matter in five hours? Yes or no? Is it going to matter in five days? Yes or no? If it's not going to matter in five years, like, throw it out the window. Who cares? Like, if this is not going to be a defining issue in your business, your life, your family, in five years, like, you'll be fine. And so when you're ruminating in the middle of the night, you're like, oh, but the box came out the wrong texture. Well, is that a problem in five months? But not really, because you can switch that box. You can get a new box in the next few weeks.
Whitney Wolfe Heard
Right. And will anyone else know what the box was supposed to look like?
Unknown
No.
Megan
Right.
Whitney Wolfe Heard
That's the other piece. But I think so much of it, especially at launch.
Unknown
Yeah, I get it. Trust me, I get it.
Whitney Wolfe Heard
And first impression and the pressure, and you try to compar. I try to compartmentalize it and say, okay, all I can control is this extension of my essence and my aesthetic and what I wanted to share with people. But, you know, I think in that focus on the details, at what point can you release some of the attachment to it, Right. To be completely attached to the process and attached to the intention, but in some ways detached from the outcome?
Unknown
I mean, you have to detach from the outcome. You have to. It's a little bit like the way we talk to our children. It's. Did you try your best? You know, like, did you really give it your all? And if you didn't, like, if you. You know, if you missed the meetings for the packaging and you let it slide till the final hour, then, like, yeah, that. That's not great. But if you gave it your all and, like, you really. You know what. You did what you could, your team did what they could, and this is the way it ended up. Like, it's gonna be good. It's gonna be great. And I also think that, candidly, energy is everything. And I think if you're so stressed launching, your customers will feel the stress of that. And so it's almost like, shake it off. It's like, it's. You know, I don't. I'm not comparing our customers for our businesses to the way our children pick up on energy, but there's something deeply intuitive and brill about the way children can read energy. You know, if you're stressed, children can feel it. I also feel that there's an intangible, invisible energy attached to launches, attached to products, attached to all of this. And so you kind of want to, like, do a happy dance for your products and send them out the window, because, like, that happy energy is going to land in someone's kitchen counter, and you want that for them. And so I think it's kind of like, just shake it off.
Podcast Title: Fail Better with David Duchovny
Episode: Introducing: Confessions of a Female Founder with Meghan
Host/Author: Lemonada Media
Release Date: April 11, 2025
In this introductory episode of "Confessions of a Female Founder," hosted by Megan under the Lemonada Media banner, listeners are invited to embark on a journey that uncovers the untold stories behind building successful businesses. The podcast aims to shed light on the often unseen challenges, such as setbacks, sleepless nights, and intense focus, that female entrepreneurs face on their path to success.
Megan begins the episode by passionately introducing her new podcast, emphasizing her excitement to share insights from fellow female entrepreneurs and friends. She sets the stage for listeners by highlighting the value of understanding the real experiences behind building something great, whether or not the audience is currently involved in entrepreneurship.
Megan provides a sneak peek into what listeners can expect from the series. She explains that the podcast will delve into the personal and professional lives of female founders, offering a candid look at what it takes to build a business from the ground up. The focus will be on uncovering the authentic experiences that often go unnoticed, providing valuable lessons and inspiration for listeners.
The first episode features a compelling conversation between Megan and Whitney Wolfe Heard, the founder of Bumble. This segment offers deep insights into Whitney's journey, highlighting the emotional and psychological aspects of her entrepreneurial experience.
Whitney Wolfe Heard shares her reflections on achieving monumental financial success, such as being recognized as the youngest self-made female billionaire by Time magazine. Despite these accolades, Whitney opens up about a profound sense of inner depletion that accompanied her outward success.
Notable Quotes:
Megan (00:59): "I'm sure the first time I ever heard about you was in Time magazine being the youngest self-made billionaire female billionaire, huge."
Whitney Wolfe Heard (01:08): "Well, you know, it's funny, it's like at my on paper richest, I was my inward poorest."
Whitney delves into the paradox of her success, explaining that while her financial metrics were soaring, her personal well-being was suffering. She emphasizes the importance of balancing various aspects of life to achieve true wealth.
Whitney Wolfe Heard (01:19): "What it took out of me to hit those milestones actually robbed me of my real wealth. The ability to connect with myself, to take time for myself, to focus on my physical, mental, spiritual health, to focus on my relationships, to focus on the things that actually make you the wealthiest in life."
She recounts writing a letter to herself during a challenging time when her company's stock hit an all-time low. This letter served as a poignant reminder that true wealth extends beyond financial success and encompasses personal health, relationships, and inner peace.
Notable Quotes:
The conversation shifts to the development of an internal compass, highlighting the wisdom Whitney has gained through her experiences. Megan acknowledges the depth of Whitney's insights, noting the significant personal growth required to reach such levels of success without losing oneself.
Megan (03:21): "It takes a lot of years for most people to be able to have that level of wisdom and an internal compass."
Whitney concurs, sharing her belief that the relentless pursuit of success often comes at the expense of personal well-being. She offers a heartfelt caution against adopting the "win-at-all-costs" mentality.
Whitney Wolfe Heard (03:57): "Don't take this route to the top of Everest. It's not worth it. The view is not worth it. Don't do it. Because the one thing you can never get back is time."
Whitney provides actionable advice for entrepreneurs, encouraging them to reassess their definitions of success and prioritize personal well-being alongside business achievements. She emphasizes the irreplaceable value of time and the importance of avoiding burnout by maintaining a healthy work-life balance.
Notable Quotes:
Whitney Wolfe Heard (04:38): "I actually think I would have been more successful had I not been like that."
Whitney Wolfe Heard (05:00): "If this is not going to be a defining issue in your business, your life, your family, in five years, like, you'll be fine."
The discussion transitions to practical strategies for managing stress and overthinking, especially during critical business moments like product launches. Whitney shares her personal techniques for mitigating anxiety and maintaining focus.
Whitney Wolfe Heard (04:44): "Those 3am loops. And it's just like, you can't stop overthinking the thing."
She advises taking a step back to evaluate the significance of immediate concerns and encourages entrepreneurs to prioritize long-term well-being over short-term stressors.
Whitney Wolfe Heard (05:07): "Is this going to matter in five minutes? Yes. Is it going to matter in five hours? Yes or no? Is it going to matter in five days? Yes or no? If it's not going to matter in five years, like, throw it out the window."
Whitney underscores the importance of maintaining positive energy, especially during high-pressure situations. She likens the stress experienced during launches to how children can sense and react to adult energy, suggesting that a positive demeanor can significantly impact both personal well-being and business outcomes.
Whitney Wolfe Heard (05:56): "There's something deeply intuitive and brill about the way children can read energy...you want to do a happy dance for your products and send them out the window, because that happy energy is going to land in someone's kitchen counter."
To wrap up the episode, Megan encourages listeners to subscribe to "Confessions of a Female Founder" across all podcast platforms or via the provided link in the show notes. She expresses her eagerness for the audience to join her on this revealing and inspiring journey through the real stories of female entrepreneurs.
Megan (00:06): "Hi, I'm Megan and I'm so excited for you to hear my new podcast, Confessions of a Female Founder from Lemonada Media."
True Wealth Extends Beyond Finances: Success isn't solely measured by financial achievements but also by personal well-being, relationships, and inner peace.
Developing an Internal Compass: Cultivating wisdom and self-awareness is crucial for maintaining balance and avoiding burnout.
Practical Stress Management: Assessing the long-term significance of stressors can help entrepreneurs manage anxiety and focus on what truly matters.
Positive Energy's Impact: Maintaining a positive demeanor during high-stress moments can positively influence both personal health and business success.
Valuing Time Over Success: Time is an irreplaceable resource that should be cherished over relentless pursuit of financial milestones.
"Confessions of a Female Founder" promises to deliver heartfelt, honest conversations that offer invaluable lessons for anyone navigating the entrepreneurial landscape. Whether you're building a business or simply curious about the behind-the-scenes realities, this podcast is a must-listen.