In this episode Nikou speaks to Bobby Del Rio who works in the TV and film industry. He became super famous in his native Canada recently when he secured a deal with a Hollywood producer through Clubhouse. The conversation starts off about Bobby's career but he soon turns the tables on Nikou and proposes an opportunity for her.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

I originally went to school for economics before acting school, I was going to go into finance. I was a Math guy, I'm a really big dork.
The most underrated aspect of being a professional performer is the mental aspect. People think it's about looking good and memorising lines, but most of that is easy, the difficult part is the grind and managing the uncertainty.
I've had a good pandemic, career-wise, and the reason is that I'm pretty good at navigating uncertainty. Even from a financial perspective, I'm so used to the most volatile things happening that I had prepared for these conditions 10 years ago, just out of paranoia – I saved a lot of money, paid off all my debts just in case something happened where I wouldn't have an income for two years and still be fine. Then the pandemic hit.
If anything, I doubled down during the pandemic, giving myself more projects, more possibilities than ever before because I'm always prepared for the worst-case scenario.
I can very clearly identify the greatest accomplishments in my career at the time and compare them to my worst personal failures. I don't know why that is, if I'm reframing the narrative, but it's so pronounced that it's almost a joke to me: professional success – personal failure, constantly.
The pandemic year has been the hardest personal years of my entire life. I had many disastrous things happen. Great things were happening to me and I was supposed to be elated but my heart was broken.
I hope this changes over time and I wonder if I'm doing this subconsciously.
Since I got divorced six years ago a negative pattern has emerged that was not present for, I don't know if it's the kind of women that I've dated or my approach to dating, but something fundamentally shifted in my after the divorce where I haven't had a healthy relationship since – not throwing anybody under the bus or blaming them.
When I find a woman I like I try to focus on her and making it work – I'm a one woman person – but again I feel like I'm unable to make it work and that's frustrating, but I keep moving forward and failing forward.
I was studying commerce and the University of Toronto doing economics, accounting, calculus, etc and I became so unhappy doing it that I stopped attending my classes and skipped months of school at the time.
I took improve classes ...

Interview with Bobby Del Rio – Navigating Uncertainty

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