FAK1231-Fakenukes and Rizoli and Southern Israelite

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Fakeologist Show – FAK1231: Fakenukes and Rizoli and Southern Israelite

Date: March 12, 2026
Host: Ab ("Fakeologist")
Guests:

• "Fake Nukes" Phil
• Jim Rizzoli
• Drake, aka "Southern Israelite"
• Call-ins: Various listeners

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Overview

On this episode of the Fakeologist Show, host Ab moderates a lively, often combative roundtable between regulars "Fake Nukes" Phil and Jim Rizzoli and returning guest Drake aka "Southern Israelite," with several audience call-ins punctuating the discussion. The central debate is over historical power structures (particularly the role of Jews, Catholics, and Jesuits), the reality or fabrication of wars and major historical events (such as WWII and the Holocaust), and the nature of propaganda, power, and world control in contemporary geopolitics.

Drake, the featured guest, presents a provocative thesis focused on the dominance of the Catholic Church and Jesuit order, contesting the common "Jewish control" narrative, and referencing obscure theological ideas as drivers of history. The show alternates between sharp disagreements—particularly around the Holocaust, WWII causes, and who "pulls the strings"—and attempts to find common ground. The episode’s tone is contentious, fast-paced, and unapologetically conspiratorial.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Introductions and Context Setting

• Drake ("Southern Israelite") returns to the show primarily seeking a debate with Phil.
• Each participant's background is established (YouTube, KKK family ties, etc.).
• Drake's slogan: "What's popular is never true. It's never been true." (07:17)

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2. Drake's Worldview and Core Thesis (07:40–08:53, 34:10–36:16, 46:07–47:41)

• Drake summarizes his documentaries:
  • "Occupied by Rome": Argues the Tammany Hall-Regime (Irish and Italian Catholics, supported by Jewish legal teams) took over the United States, culminating with JFK.
  • "New York's War against the United States": Extends that thesis into present day.
• Central Claim: Jesuits (a Catholic order) are the key historical and current power brokers, not Jews or traditional Protestant/Anglo elites.
• The Catholic Church’s agenda, according to Drake, follows "Joachim of Fiore's Three Ages" theological prophecy, with Jesuits embodying an evolved form of spiritual, intellectual, and societal control.

Quote:
"The Jesuits. The Jesuits...This has been the Protestant position for hundreds of years." (34:10, Drake)

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3. The JFK Assassination, WWII & the Holocaust

JFK:

• Drake claims JFK's assassination was a "retirement," not a killing—elites staged it to protect Catholic interests (10:14–12:26).

WWII & the Holocaust:

• Long debate over whether Hitler’s policy aimed for Jewish extermination:
  • Drake: Holocaust and Jewish extermination was real but subordinate to a broader effort to "destroy German Protestants and Russian Orthodox Christians." (16:25)
  • Phil & Jim: Strongly skeptical of Holocaust claims, arguing most was fabricated; officials like Phil want photographic evidence of real death, often disbelieves official stories.
• Photographic evidence (e.g., Dresden, Katyn Forest) is discussed as the standard for "real war" by Phil (21:01).
• Disputes over Stalin’s/Tammany Hall’s/JFK’s real allegiances and "who benefits" from WWII’s outcome.

Quote:
Drake: "There was a systematic program to exterminate the Jews from Europe." (44:19)
Jim: "How was he gonna do that? Gas chambers?" (45:39)
Drake: "Yeah. And guns. And, you know, God knows how many other ways he did it." (46:17)

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4. Fake vs Real War and Political Agendas (24:27–28:51, 29:33–31:53)

• Phil argues wars (e.g., Iraq, Afghanistan) are mostly staged events ("blowing up empty buildings"), but admits some "boots on the ground" killing for special ops.
• Drake rebuts that actual combat and suffering do occur and lambasts Phil's epistemological reliance on photographic evidence.

Quote:
Phil: "My definition of war is whether or not I see a real dead body..." (21:01)
Drake: "These wars are not about strategic battle. They are about demographic extermination." (19:24)

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5. Power Structures: Jews, Jesuits, Tammany Hall, and New World Order (14:44, 34:10–36:16, 68:28, 70:03)

• Drake’s Position: Jews, in his view, serve as legal and financial advisors but are not at the top; the Jesuit order and their Catholic/Anglo agents are preeminent. Cites Tammany Hall’s historical role.
• Jim & Callers: Contest this, insisting that Jews are central architects of world finance, media, and political influence today.

Quote:
Drake: "The Catholic Church... is a new version of the Catholic Church...The champion on that new theological system is the Jesuit order." (34:57)
Sean (Caller): "There’s no apparatus. There’s no organized Jewish apparatus? ADL, SPLC, the guy breath. I mean, I can go on and on..." (72:27)

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6. Theology as a Driver of Geopolitics (24:27–25:21, 87:58–89:25)

• Drake: Understanding world power requires understanding centuries-old theology and prophetic frameworks (esp. Joachim of Fiore and Jesuit strategies).
• Alleges current events in Iran and the Middle East are orchestrated to play out Baptist (Protestant) prophecy for political purposes.

Quote:
"In order to understand the world, you have to understand theology. Everything's theology." (87:58, Drake)

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7. On Information Control, Censorship, and Narrative Management (04:23–05:22, 56:38–57:11)

• Discuss censorship on YouTube and social media—Drake bemoans having content removed; others claim certain narratives (e.g., "blame the Jews") are perversely promoted because they serve as a distraction or convenient scapegoat.
• Drake argues the truth about Catholic dominance is suppressed, while blaming Jews is lucrative and widely permitted.

Quote:
"It's very obvious what the deep state is funding. It's funding Phil and Jim’s narrative. It’s not funding the narrative that the Catholic Church. You cannot make money saying the Pope of Rome, the Jesuits are behind everything." (56:38, Drake)

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8. Books, Research, and Criticism of the "Truth" Community (58:13–59:06)

• Drake challenges if anyone present has written substantive research or books, implying most truth-seekers online "just want to be entertained" and do not do real research.
• Phil and Jim defend their own reading and engagement but admit a lack of substantial personal publication.

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9. Call-in Segment: Audience Reaction and More Polemics (39:28–41:30, 57:42–61:38, 72:17–81:49)

• Multiple callers confront Drake’s thesis—resisting his dismissal of "Jewish control," accusing him of "book smarts," and debating specific names, organizations, and historical claims.
• Drake often rebuts by asking for specific names (leaders, ideological systems) underpinning "Jewish control," pointing instead to Joachimist and Jesuit origins.
• The KKK and Southern identity are discussed; Drake notes family ties to the Klan and argues for its authenticity, though acknowledges modern groups are all federal infiltrated (70:03–83:09).

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Notable Quotes and Moments

| Time | Quote | Speaker | |----------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------| | 07:17 | "What's popular is not true. It's never been true." | Drake | | 21:01 | "My definition of war is whether or not I see a real dead body or not." | Phil | | 14:44 | "My take on the Jews is exactly my take on Tammany Hall. ... They are not ... at the top of the power structure." | Drake | | 34:10 | "The Jesuits. The Jesuits...This has been the Protestant position for hundreds of years." | Drake | | 46:17 | "[Hitler exterminated Jews]...in gas chambers? ... Yeah. And guns. And, you know, God knows how many other ways he did it." | Jim/Drake | | 56:38 | "I'm blown aback by how many people become millionaires saying everything's to blame on the Jews." | Drake | | 87:58 | "In order to understand the world, you have to understand theology. Everything's theology." | Drake | | 24:27 | "Phil's definition of war ... is completely asinine, which is that a war cannot be a real war unless there's absolutely no political agendas." | Drake |

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 01:17–06:05: Show introduction, guest line-up, general banter
• 07:17–09:01: Drake’s motto and initial critique of popular narratives
• 10:14–12:47: JFK’s "retirement", Mafia-Catholic power interplay
• 16:25–18:00: Hitler’s goals, Jesuit and Vatican power in WWII
• 21:01–22:55: Phil’s criteria for "real war" and photographic evidence
• 34:10–36:16: Jesuit theological underpinning of modern politics
• 39:28–41:30: Call-in debate about Jesuits vs. Jews
• 44:19–47:04: Heated Holocaust discussion—means, motives, death toll
• 56:38–57:11: Drake on why “blame the Jews” pays and Jesuit narrative is suppressed
• 72:17–74:24: Tammany Hall, Gangs of New York movie, KKK
• 87:58–89:25: Theology as world driver, Middle East as orchestrated eschatology

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Final Thoughts and Episode Takeaways

• Host's Position: Ab generally admires Drake's unique perspective and welcomes his theorizing as a much-needed alternative to mainstream and "alt" narratives.
• Drake vehemently opposes what he considers the "easy" scapegoating of Jews for global ills, instead positing a complex Catholic-Jesuit theological-political machine.
• Regulars Phil and Jim remain largely unconvinced, challenging Drake on war realities, Holocaust specifics, and mechanisms of global finance and control.
• Callers largely resist or mock Drake’s ideas, but the debate remains energetic (and sometimes personal).
• The show concludes with an invitation for Drake to return for deeper dives and a general consensus that controversial, well-argued alternative views are beneficial to the broader "truth" movement—regardless of agreement.

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Related Resources and Links Mentioned

• Drake’s Site and Work: southernprotestant.com
  • Main documentaries: "Occupied by Rome," "New York's War Against the United States"
  • Guide: "The Ultimate Guide Against Neo Nazis in the Alt Right"
• Further Reading/Viewing Suggested:
  • Documentary: "Europa: The Final Battle"
  • Documentary: "Hellstorm" (Thomas Goodrich)
  • Book: Moses Hess's "Holy History of Mankind"
  • Book: William Cooper's "Behold a Pale Horse"
  • Movie: "Gangs of New York"

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Summary Table: Speaker Positions

| Speaker | Main Claim/Thesis | Evidence Argued | |---------------|-------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------| | Drake | Jesuits/Catholics usurped world power; Jews are not at top | Tammany Hall history, Joachim prophecy, Catholic influence, academic/theological citations, personal family history | | Phil | Most wars (modern and historical) are largely staged/hyped; real war evidenced only by incontrovertible photos/videos | Photophobic standard of proof; skepticism of MSM/official stories | | Jim | Skeptical of mainstream WWII/Holocaust narrative; Jews have disproportionate global influence | Revisionist works, doubts on gas chambers, KKK and Protestant lens | | Callers | Split – some defend mainstream or Jewish-power narrative; others mock or challenge Drake's focus on Jesuits/Catholics | Often anecdotal, citing ADL, SPLC, media ownership, pop culture |

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Notable Episode Highlights

• Drake coins the slogan: "What's popular is never true." (07:17)
• Drake on Tammany Hall and Rome: Detailed walk-through of US political subversion (07:40–08:16, 68:28–71:45).
• Explosive Holocaust Debate: Who benefits, what really happened, is the number or method relevant? (44:19–47:11)
• Drake on suppression: Insistence that blaming Jews is allowed (and paid) but real alternative ("Catholic/Jesuit") views are silenced (56:38–57:11).
• Challenge to all: Drake repeatedly demands his critics name the actual leaders and ideological framework if Jews truly run everything (75:02–76:32).

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For new listeners:
This episode delivers a panoramic, raw debate over some of the most controversial alternative historical theses, featuring robust disagreement, rare ideas, and a focus on root causes and deep worldviews rather than surface-level conspiracies. It’s not for the faint of heart, but offers insight into the fault lines within the "truth" community and the persistent challenge of finding—and defending—unpopular truths.

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Transcript

[A]

All right, I think we have a crowd here tonight. Let's say one, two, three guests here. Right on time. Hello, guests.

[B]

What's either. What's the occasion?

[A]

It's your birthday. Yeah. Welcome, welcome.

[C]

Can you hear me?

[A]

Yes, hi. Southern Israelite is here. Israelite. Is it Israelite or Israel? Israelite. Israelite.

[C]

Southern Israelite.

[A]

Welcome, welcome. Well, just as this is the pre show, so we are recording, but Drake, or Southern Israelite was emailing me for the last week because he wanted to talk to Phil. And I did bounce all the emails to Phil, but I don't think Phil checks his email.

[D]

Yeah, sorry.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, so I, I have Phil's phone number, but it's.

[C]

But did not just hear him talk. Isn't Phil here? Didn't I hear him talk?

[A]

No, he's here, but. No, Phil is here. But what I'm saying was I didn't get a chance to phone or text Phil to let him know you were coming on. So I said, well, the easiest. I know Phil is going to be here because he's always here. So I figured. I figured Phil is a pretty robust debater and I didn't think he'd probably have a problem with you coming on.

[D]

Always looking for another point of view.

[B]

Yeah, as long as it agrees with Phil's.

[A]

No, Phil is very reasonable. Phil is not a dogmatic type.

[B]

And some things I, I don't find Phil is.

[A]

I don't find Phil combative at all, actually.

[B]

No good guy to talk to. He just thinks everybody has to agree with him, that's all.

[D]

No, but I've never.

[B]

Everybody.

[A]

No, I've never. No, but I never.

[C]

I believe that.

[A]

I never thought that about Phil either. He's. He's really. He's. He'll listen to other people. I, I've never. Phil knows that. I don't agree with everything he says, but we never have a problem, do we, Phil?

[D]

I, I let go of the, of the Jimmy Carter, JFK thing.

[B]

Yeah, well, that's good. Okay.

[D]

But not all the way.

[A]

Well, I don't have a problem with it. I mean, Frank believes some really wacky things too, and he still comes on the show. But I don't agree with Frank half the time, especially with all his Bible talk.

[B]

Did, did you have. What's his name? John Ceretti. Cerucci on last night?

[A]

Not last night. No. No, Last night was Tim Osman. I heard your walking talk today and I was. You must have been. He was on about a month ago.

[B]

Oh, okay. So that must have been the one That I heard.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know. He's been on at least three or four times and you were on once with them, I think.

[B]

Okay, yeah. Cuz I. I mean, if you want to get the stream going, go ahead. I just want to talk to you about something about that, then we can get off it. Okay.

[A]

No, we can do that. Now, you guys both know Southern Israelite, so.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Do you have a channel on Bitchute?

[C]

No, I don't. I. I don't really do that much production on the Internet, but I do have a YouTube channel called Southern Israelite. I've been. I've been uploading a few things this month, more than I usually do because of the Iran issue, which is a huge issue for me.

[D]

It's something to your channel, your YouTube channel. In one of my comments, I think I went to your channel. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

I was just letting you know where. Where my perspective is going to be, you know, to let you know where we stand before we have a conversation.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

We already. We already know where you stand. Because if you're on YouTube, then that says a lot. Okay, well.

[A]

Okay, YouTube.

[D]

YouTube allows the. Approved. The approved message.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, I've had. I've had two of my channels taken from me. One was I had over 3,000 subs back in 2018, 2019. And yeah, they nuked that one.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But I've lost two channels already.

[A]

I think YouTube has been pretty quiet about nuking people lately. So if you thought you ever want to be on YouTube, now's a good time to try again if you think that you were slighted. Because I think they've fired all their sensors. Because I haven't deleted any of my shows and I haven't.

[C]

I was about to say, doesn't have a YouTube channel.

[A]

I have, I have. I have three. They're all backups. But the main one, I don't put anything on except because I use it for my own YouTubing. And the second one is where I do the streaming and the third one is the backup streaming. But I haven't bothered deleting any of my videos lately because I'm just too lazy and none of them have been struck down. So I think YouTube is backed off or nobody's actually turning me in anyway. Let me start the show because I think it requires the snitch system as well.

[E]

Right.

[A]

I think I'm starting a little different, Phil, just because I'm in the Steely Dan right now. So please indulge me. All good. I don't know why? For some reason, I just started listening to them again. And, Jim, if you want to know the lead singer of Steely Dan, the answer is yes. I looked it up for you.

[B]

I couldn't hear.

[E]

He's Jewish.

[A]

Yes. The lead singer, Steve Healy.

[D]

Dan.

[B]

Oh, I. I don't.

[A]

I know, I know.

[C]

Aren't they all?

[A]

No, I don't.

[F]

There's.

[B]

No.

[A]

No, there's only two. Two of them in it. One is dead.

[D]

All right.

[A]

Good evening, good afternoon, good morning, and good night, everybody. This is the Fakeology show. It's a special show. Not only is it special because we have our regular guest, Fake Nukes Phil. Fake News Phil. Hello.

[C]

Hello.

[A]

Glad we're here. And he's from Calmyfornia. We have Jim Rizzoli from East Texas. Hello.

[B]

Hi there, everybody.

[A]

And the extra special guest tonight is a returning guest and hasn't been on in quite a while, but has emailed me because he wanted to talk specifically to Fake News Phil, and that is Southern Israelite who I really.

[C]

Hey, thanks for having me back on.

[A]

Anytime. I actually really like your angle of things. I like your videos. I put the first one on fake O2, but I didn't even finish the second one because I'm busy sidetracked with a lot of things. But I definitely recommend your work because I. I think you might actually be closer to the truth than most, the misled people. Because I always. I always thought that the people. Everything that's obvious has to be wrong. And I think that's sort of your stance as well.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. What's popular is not true. It's never been true.

[A]

No, I thought that's a great slogan. That's a really great slogan. I think that's your main slogan. So just quickly, what is the name of your video that I put up here? It's your main video on your two hour video. And you did a part two. Is there a name of it?

[C]

It's Occupied by Rome was part one, which is my whole political geopolitical position. And then the second one was New York's War against the United States, where I show that the Tammany hall regime out of York, led by Irish and Italian Roman Catholics, you know, supported by their Jewish legal team, you know, destroyed the United States of America. I would say they. They took it over, you know, originally in 1933 with FDR, who was the campaign manager of Al Smith. But the final blow was with the Kennedy administration. That's really when they took over completely, was with the Kennedy administration.

[B]

Okay. So. Yeah. So you're into like John Cerrucci, right?

[C]

Look, Johnny Cerucci we have had. He's a Christian. He still holds a Christian worldview. He's like a Protestant Christian. I am like, I respect the Protestant Reformation. There's a lot of truth in the Protestant Reformation. But I think we need to go all the way back to the original messianic Jewish sect of Jesus and his apostles, the Nazarenes. Messianic Judaism. I think that's the, the ancient Near Eastern worldview that the Bible was obviously written.

[B]

You're not a Catholic guy.

[C]

No, he hates exactly the opposite.

[B]

Well, I don't know, I'm just asking.

[A]

No, he is. I, I'd actually like to have Johnny Drake. Can I call you Drake? Can I call you Drake?

[C]

Yeah, call me Drake.

[A]

This one. Because I, yeah, I like, I'd like to have Johnny Drake and Jim on the same show. Just because you guys, you know, you guys have a lot of overlap as well. You don't agree on your main thesis, any of you, but you have overlap and I think that's me.

[B]

Just say something about Johnny. I like Johnny, but he doesn't give you a chance to talk. Okay, so if you have all three on, you're gonna have to moderate it. Unbelievable. Because he, look at, he's a smart guy. He goes on and on and on. Alright, so you, you got to give us the chance to talk because we won't be able to talk.

[A]

Yeah, I would tell everyone in advance in that case that I will pod people down. I will lower their volume so if they're talking then the other person can talk. So if that's, if that's what we have to do, I will tell people in advance or I'll have a bell. So I'll have a bell that makes a ding noise and then I'll lower their volume so even if they're talking, the other people will be able to talk over them. That kind of thing. I know.

[D]

Do you think that JFK was killed in Dealey Plaza?

[C]

No, no, that was. I, in my, I go through that in my second documentary. That was a, that was a fake event. I think they retired him because Alan Dulles wanted him dead and the Italian mafia wanted him dead. And in what's his name, Sam Giancana, in his book Double Cross, he explicitly lays out their beef with the Kennedy family, the Italian Mafia, the Chicago outfit led by Sam Giancana. They forced JFK into office. They had all of their agents working all over the country to fix the voting booths in this country to Get JFK into power. It was a favor that they were doing for the patriarch of the Kennedy family. His name was Joseph P. Kennedy. He was a gangster. He was involved with all the Italian Mafia and the bootlegging going on in New York and all over the country. He was friends with them. He's the one. Joseph P. Kennedy is the one that oversaw this. Got it done. The Italian Mafia were the immediate hands on the ground, fixing the voting booths in the country. And then when JFK got into power, he was supposed to lay hands off the Mafia because the Mafia had been under persecution by Robert Kennedy, JFK's brother, for a long time. And they wanted the government to leave them alone, so they were gonna help JFK get into power. And what happened when he got into power is he reneged on the deal. And so I think the Catholic Church wanted to protect JFK because he was their king. He was a hero. He was the Catholic hero in America. We had never had a Roman Catholic president before. And they wanted to protect him because Allen Dulles wanted him dead, too. Allen Dulles was head of the CIA at the time. Allen Dulles. I mean, he was a part of the Tammany hall coup of the country. He was in league with Catholic elements in the country. Franz Von Papen, the Catholic, the night of Malta Catholic, who got Adolf Hitler put into power. He was in league with him and that. That whole Night of Malta agenda. And he wanted. He wanted JFK dead because he was becoming too big of a liberal.

[B]

He was.

[D]

Any president has been assassinated. Do you think. Do you think. I think that all presidential assassinations have been fake.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

That's what I think.

[C]

I can't. I can't speak to that. Well, I can't speak to everyone.

[A]

You know.

[B]

Go ahead, answer the question. Do you. You think JFK got assassinated or not?

[C]

No, I said they retired him.

[F]

He.

[C]

They retired him. They. They took him out of office. Probably put him in some estate somewhere. Go ahead.

[B]

Okay, so what happened in the car?

[C]

Well, I think what happened was. From my. My analysis of the Zapruder film, as. As they're. As they're coming up on the corner, that's real footage, but then it's spliced. And then they put in a doll there. That. That's a rubber doll, a dummy. And it's very clear. Yeah. And when they shot it, you see this huge flap of skin coming down on his face. It's ridiculous. And then when you look at the autopsy video, his face is fine. So it's absurd.

[A]

It's Absurd.

[C]

It's absurd. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. The Zapruder film does not match the autopsy photo.

[C]

Yes.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

And. But I think even the Charlie Kirk thing was fake. All political assassinations are fake.

[C]

Yes, of course. And that was. Frank Turek, was the guy behind that. He's. He's a high level Christian apologist. He graduated from Allen Dulles Fed university in Washington D.C. called George Washington University. That was a. The New World Order is Christian. It is a. The people who are mostly in charge of the world are Christians. There is a. I think there's three groups of people who are vying for power in the world. It's the old Anglo American establishment people that you're David Rockefeller types. They've lost a lot of power. The techno feudalist Catholics led by J.D. vance and Elon Musk. And then you have this right wing, you know, traditionalist kind of John Birch kind of group, you know, led by Allen Dulles and Jesuit trained Roman Catholic degenerate Joe McCarthy in the Republican Party. I think those three groups are the ones that are vying for power.

[A]

Yeah. You need the Jews for Jim. He left something out there.

[E]

Not a chance.

[C]

There's not a chance in hell any of that's true.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

Okay, so the Jews don't. Don't. Okay, so the Jews don't. They're not involved with the Wall street or banking. They don't control any of those things or movies or anything.

[C]

Absolutely. Dude, I have a 20 page. Just nothing but links. No text at all. 20 pages of links on my website going through every single detail of this issue. I put. Me and my friend Alex have done more work on this issue than anybody ever.

[A]

Wait, what is the website? What is the website? I want to.

[C]

Yeah, Southern Protestant.com is my website and it's the. I have. I have. I've published 28 books and one of them is just a massive website. It's just. It's massive. Just a database website.

[A]

Okay, where is it?

[C]

It's the picture. It's like on the bottom right part of where the books are. It's got a picture of Donald Trump and Nicholas Fuentes, kind of middle right. It's called the Alt right. The Ultimate Guide against Neo Nazis in the alt right. It's got a picture of Donald Trump, Nick Fuentes and Steve Bannon.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

You click that, it'll take you to the website.

[B]

Can you see the Jews? The Jews to you is nothing.

[C]

Again, my take on the Jews is exactly my take on Tammany Hall. The Irish and Italian Catholic people are the people who established Tammany Hall. They were aided and abetted by Arthur Rothstein, by Meyer Lansky, by the Cohn family, Albert Cohn, and then his son, who was a extremely influential man named Roy Cohn. They were, they were the legal advisors and servants of the Catholic Tammany hall regime. They're, they're, they're acolytes of the power structure, but they are not even close to being at the top of the power structure.

[B]

So you must, you must also feel that there's a problem with Hitler, too, right?

[C]

A problem with Hitler. I think Hitler was put into, I don't think that. I know that he was put into power by the Catholic Church, specifically Franz von Papen and Pope Leo xii in order to exterminate the German Protestant and Russian Orthodox Christian populations. That's why he was put into power.

[B]

Do you think that, do you go along with the Holocaust stuff or what?

[C]

As far as, like, what number, how many people died? You know, I've never cared to debate, litigate that issue. It just seems so stupid. But I, I, yeah, I, I definitely, I have documented on my, on my database, I have documented from not only Hitler, but his cabinet a, an open systematic extermination or exile program of the Nazi regime to get to either kill the Jews or get them out of Europe. I definitely believe that happened.

[B]

Okay, so you think you, Hitler was, you think Hitler was out to kill the Jews?

[C]

I think Hitler's primary agenda was the destruction of the German Protestant and Russian Orthodox people. And they always have under, under color of some open false policy. Like right now, what's going on in Iran is this is a Jesuit Yoakamite theology that's working under color of Baptist eschatology.

[A]

Whoa.

[C]

They always have open false policy.

[B]

Explain this to me. Okay, so I understand. The way I understand it is that Hitler had a very good relationship with the Catholic Church. I know that. Okay. But you, you're telling me that he was out there to kill all the Protestants and the Jews?

[E]

No, no.

[C]

Protestants and Russian Orthodox Christians, those were the two most powerful demographics in Europe against the Catholic Church.

[B]

Where did he do that? I don't know. I don't see anywhere where it shows Hitler was killing Catholics or the Russian Orthodox, whatever you're talking about.

[C]

Yeah, see, this is going to go into our differences in the definition of war. Phil's definition of war, as I've heard him in the recent live streams, I think is completely asinine, which is that a war cannot be a real war unless there's absolutely no political agendas. Going on. And number two, every single thing that's happening is strict strategic battle, which I've. I've refuted, I think in great detail. I sent the email to, to, to. Absolutely. I call you Tim or Ab or which one do you prefer?

[A]

Can you call me fake ologist just to make it easy for the audience?

[F]

All right.

[C]

Fake ologies.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, you look at what happened in Operation Barbarossa, okay? Hitler invades into Russia. His generals are telling him it's complete madness. It's winter. There's too many winter barriers. Your men are going to die. He does it anyway. Is that.

[B]

You're wrong. Hold on here. Hold on. Don't. Don't become like John so Ruchy, because I have a lot of questions for you, okay? Operation Barbarossa, you, you're getting the wrong timeline there. They didn't go there in the winter,

[C]

so I didn't say anything about the time. All the wintertime. Yes, he did. There was a large part of Operation Barbarossa that happened during the winter. Dude, I have seen. What are you talking about? And my, my second, my second proof is the bombing of Dresden. What was the military strategy of the bombing of Dresden? It was not a military city. They didn't have ballistics. And it was, it was, it was the cultural, religious, Protestant center of Europe. That's why it was bombed. It was these, these wars are not about strategic battle. They are about demographic extermination. See, now you're talking over me. See, you're talking over me. Just let me finish my statements. I'll let you talk.

[A]

Go ahead, Go ahead. No, no, hold on a sec. Because we, you really came on to talk to fake nukes Phil as well. So I like, I know I don't have that same.

[C]

They both have that same 1488 ER mindset. So I'm sure the questions that Phil are going to ask me.

[B]

I have questions, but you're not letting me ask them.

[A]

Now, hold on. Jim, Jim, first of all, Drake wanted to talk to Phil as well. Mainly he didn't any issues as I know it in his email with you. He wanted to talk to Phil. So I want to try and get everyone in on this because first of all, it's. It's the fake news Phil Wednesday show. So if he doesn't talk, then I'll change up the chat. Yeah, you. You went away and you came back.

[D]

So back on.

[A]

Okay, so let, let's just let Drake ask you a question first because that's why he wanted to come On.

[D]

Let me address Drake. I've.

[A]

Okay, go ahead.

[D]

My definition of war is whether or not I see a real dead body or not.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

And in my opinion, the dead bodies at Dresden look real to me. And the Germans provided photographs that. Because they're up close with high resolution and we could tell that they're dead bodies. For instance, at the Katin Forest, I believe those are dead bodies that they were digging up out of the ground. And that's because the Germans brought in a whole bunch of film crews and to film all these dead bodies and to. And they showed the cause of death. They showed the bullet holes in the back of the neck. See that? That's convincing to me. I believe that people were killed in the Katin Forest, and I believe the Soviets did it. But let's take something like the London Blitz, for instance. The British didn't supply us any photographs of dead civilians. They tell us that 7,000 civilians were killed by the bombing.

[E]

But.

[D]

But all of these dead corpses went to Kenneth Simpson. He was the pathologist in London. And we're supposed to trust Kenneth Simpson that he autopsied all of these bodies? And it's like a. Trust me, bro. It's like, well, I don't trust Kenneth Simpson because he. He's a shyster. And.

[A]

Hey, Phil, hold on a second.

[D]

Cannot prove that anybody was killed during these bombings. And the Germans can. The Germans took. Even the first bombing at Freiburg. The Germans took detailed photographs of the dead girls and the dead children at Freiburg. And again, they got the camera up close and took detailed photographs. See, that's the thing we don't see on the Allied side. The Allies didn't take photographs of their dead. And so that's what's. It appears that the Allies came upon Germany and killed a whole bunch of civilians. And then they invented this Holocaust.

[C]

Okay, here we go. Let me. Let me interject for a second. You're monologuing a little bit.

[B]

So.

[C]

So the point I'm making is if that, you know, taking personnel, resources, bombs, ammunition, to kill a bunch of people in Germany, that's not efficient. That's not strategic battle. So how do you. How do you square that with your theory that real war cannot involve any kind of political agenda?

[D]

My. My opinion is they wanted to kill as many German civilians as possible. Agreed. Agreed.

[C]

That's not strategic warfare, though.

[D]

And that's why they bombed 165 cities with firebombs. And it was just. And that was the real Holocaust. And so it was definitely a war crime. And so what they did At Nuremberg was they. Was. They whitewashed it. And they. And they invented this Holocaust thing that, you know, they. They. The Germans didn't even know they were going to even have to defend themselves against this. I mean, it was. Yes, the Germans were deporting. Okay, we got Joseph Goebbels diary, and he wrote in his diary that they were deporting the Jews. And yes, it was a system of deportation. And yes, the Germans are guilty of that, but really, I mean, it's their country. They can deport anybody they want.

[A]

Okay, let me just interject here. I want to interject because I want to know exactly. Because southern Israelite wanted to come on. Because he had some specific issues with your point of view. That. That's really. So I. Can you. Southern Israelite, can you just give a. An overview of the main thing. You disagree or you think Phil is wrong at. And then we'll bring Jim back in.

[C]

His claim that these Middle Eastern wars. There's been no war going on, no guys fighting and dying in these war. I mean, I've known personally. My manager in East Tennessee, his name was Anthony Bell. In 2016, he was a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan tours. He had multiple tours. The dude had to go to the mountains of East Tennessee. He was so addicted to violence and killing. He would have to go to the. He would tell me this. He would show me pictures of what he would do in the mountains of East Tennessee. He had to specifically go out there with knives and a bow and arrow because he thought if he brought a gun, it would be unfair. It wouldn't give him an adrenaline rush enough. So he would go out there with a bow and arrow and a knife, and he do. He'd do battle with black bears up there. He had to do it. He told me, I have to do this every few months or I'm gonna end up in.

[A]

That's not anywhere near Dollywood, is it? That. Yes, it is.

[C]

Very clear. Very. I would go to Dollywood Water park there in the summertime. It was great.

[A]

No, but he's not fighting black bears near where I was thinking of moving to, is he? Because that's in the Knoxville area.

[C]

It was in. It was in. It was in Bluff City area near Bluff City, Tennessee. East Tennessee. My. I have a student of mine named Ben who did a tour in Iraq, and when he was working administration at a hotel in Iraq, he. There was a bombing that happened right at his hotel. He was put on. He got. He got honorably discharged. I met him in 2019 in Iowa. He showed me, his enlistment papers, his discharge papers, and his pension papers. He. He got diagnosed. He did. He had severe psychological problems because of the bombing. I had to work with him for years to try to get him to do something with his life because the government had needed him out. He wouldn't work because the government would just give him whatever he wanted.

[D]

And that was dismembered corpses. Did he see torsos and people blown to bits after the bombing?

[C]

I don't know. I don't know.

[D]

That's my first question because I see. I know for a fact they blow up empty buildings. See, a built. Blowing up a building does not mean anything to me because they've been blowing up empty buildings for freaking 100 years. And so what. What matters is when people come out and they see the bodies in the street, you know, because if. If the building was full of people, we would see bodies in the street. And so what would traumatize someone is, is seeing these bodies in the street. And so you're telling me he didn't see any bodies, but yet he's traumatized? See, that doesn't make sense.

[E]

Me.

[C]

No, dude, he's traumatized because a bomb went off right next to his hotel. It like blasted through the walls in the hotel. He was traumatized over it. He had psychological problems over it. Okay, I understand. And again, this whole idea that there can be no fake events for a real war, I get this. These are the 10 examples I gave to. To AB on this. I'm going to give you examples of real wars that happen that also involved fake events. The right stack fire that happened In Germany, the 911 event here in the United States was a fake event, but it led to a real war over in the Middle East. The Gulf of Tonkin incident with, with Vietnam. That was a real war.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

You know, this whole thing that you, you think that if you can prove one fake event happens that nothing is real and nothing's ever going to happen.

[D]

I do believe they do special operations. Like in Vietnam, they did the Operation Phoenix where the CIA went and they burned some villages. I do believe that probably happened. And like in Afghanistan, we probably had special operations. They were probably protecting the opium fields in Afghanistan. And so there. There were certain tribes that were against the opium. And so we probably sent some CIA ops to go kill these tribes who were. Who were disrupting the opium production. And that probably happened. But the vast majority of what we heard, most of Afghanistan was filmed in the Mojave Desert. I know Geraldo Rivera would report live from Afghanistan, but I could tell that he was in freaking San Diego County. It's like, that's not Afghanistan. And so, you know, so much of it was fake. And so, But I'm sure they protected the opium fields, and so that, that required, I guess, a bit of killing. And so there were boots on the ground.

[A]

Right?

[C]

So you admit there were boots on the ground in Afghanistan. I mean, they would have to in order to run a whole industry over them.

[D]

Yeah, but we get the same story. Like, the Vietnam vets come back and they, they tell us that they were, they were fighting with one arm tied behind their back. And one guy said that we would have the enemy cornered and then we'd get orders from the top saying, stand down. And they wouldn't understand that, like, why are we standing down? We got them cornered. And so we get a whole bunch of stories from, like that.

[A]

So what I'm getting out of this, hold on, Phil, is that you think that there are a lot of fakery, a lot of fakery, a lot of fake stories, but you, Southern Israelite is wondering, do you think troops are mobilized and go to these countries to occupy them? Do you believe that?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Troops go there. I had a friend who talked to somebody who had two family members in Iraq, or actually he had three brothers that were in Iraq, and they were all in different locations in Iraq, and they said that nothing was going on at all three locations.

[A]

Okay, so hold on, because I want to find the common ground here between Southern Israelite and fake news. Because I, I don't think that Phil thinks everything is fake. Well, he just explained that people go over there. So Southern Israelite, what. Why do you have a big bone to pick with Phil? Because I'm not really getting what exactly you don't like about his, his take on things.

[C]

Well, I, I, my, A lot of my platform and like my life's work has been for a specific prediction about what's going to happen in the Middle East. And it's, it's. If there's going to be a real war.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

In Iran and a World War three event.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And the, the, the mode that it will take will show who's actually in control of the world.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And that's a big, that's a big question to answer.

[D]

You believe nukes are real?

[C]

No. No, I don't believe in, I don't believe in.

[A]

I think Southern Israelite is, is, is a fake ologist in, in a lot of ways.

[D]

Yeah. So this whole Iran war is premised on Iran getting nuclear weapons, which is a A premise.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

And so the whole war is. Is based upon something that's not true. And so it stands to reason that. And the same could be said about Ukraine. I mean, Ukraine supposedly forfeited 100% of their nuclear weapons. Ukraine was the third largest nuclear country back in 1992.

[E]

And.

[D]

And by the goodness of their heart, they forfeited all of their nukes with the agreement that America and the. And Europe would protect them if Russia ever invaded. And which is stupid. I mean, you don't give up your. Your self defense and rely upon America to defend you. That's just stupid. And, and of course, Ukraine also lost the technology to rebuild their stockpile, which is also. It's like the moon landing. We used to have nukes, but we

[C]

can't build them again.

[D]

We lost the technology. It's like.

[A]

Let me. I want to get Jim back in. Okay, we got, we got your point of view. I want to get Jim because I know Jim. I want Jim and Southern Israelite maybe to go back and forth a bit. Jim, I know you have your own question, so is there anything.

[B]

Well, I just want to. You made a statement. First of all, I don't agree with you and Barbara Rosa, you have no clue what happened there. And they didn't go in.

[C]

What are you talking about? The last campaign. The last was in December. It was in the winter of Operation Barbarossa. Dude, the pictures of his troops going into snow. I read the whole account that happened. This was like years ago.

[B]

Stalingrad is when they got caught with the snow, understand? They didn't go in there. Do you really think Hitler would have made an advance into the Soviet Union in the winter? I mean, really. He just. Do you understand what happened here? Hold on here. He just had a big problem with Mussolini in South. In Africa. North Africa. Okay. That held him up a couple months. So then he ended up going. And again, this is. You're talking now in, you know, probably when it's hot. You know what I mean? So when he went into Barbarossa, it

[C]

was no idea what that meant. What's that you're saying? I want to talk because I want to talk. What, what, what are you. What is your argument, Phil?

[B]

Well, my argument.

[C]

Sorry, Jim.

[B]

Operation Barbarossa, they got in there. It was at a time when they could get in there, when the, when there was no snow. Okay, I think you're completely wrong on that. Where they ran into problems is when they got into Stalingrad, which is months later. Then they didn't. Then they had a problem because they didn't have the uniforms that it could. They couldn't get the supplies in to fight. And that's where actually they lost the war. You know, went shitville there. Okay. For him.

[A]

Jim, Jim, can we. Can we go a little wider? Because this is very focused. This. And this. The audience really does.

[B]

Well, I want to know what this. This. What is it? What do you feel is. Who's in charge of the world that's causing all these problems? I want to know who you really feel.

[A]

That's a better question. That's a better one.

[C]

The Jesuits. The Jesuits.

[B]

Here we go with the Jesuits. So you're a Johnny Starucci Jesuit.

[C]

Understand, this has been. This has been the Protestant position for hundreds of years. Johnny didn't just pick that up out of the sky. Yeah, that's been. That's been said about. Talked about in Protestant circles for 500 years, ever since John Calvin. John Calvin talked about how the Jesuits were behind the creation of the Baptist Church and his Institutes of the Christian Religion written in, like, the 1530s. I mean, what are you talking about, dude? Like, this is some wild. This is like, the official historiography and political theory of the Protestant Reformation.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

So.

[B]

So, yeah, you're telling me and everybody here that the Catholic Church is in control of what's going on.

[C]

It is. It is a. It is a new version of the Catholic Church. You have to understand Logos theology. They believe that through the ages of the world, there's been three. Primarily according to Joachim. The church changes, and it has to change because of Logos theology. It is a spiritual and intellectual evolution of the human race. It's part of their theology. It is. It is. We have now entered into the third age of Joachim's prophecy, and the champion on that new theological system is the Jesuit order.

[B]

I get it. This is like E. Michael Jones. You sound like.

[C]

I know. E. Michael Jones is a Roman Catholic scholar. He knows the theology. So you're just admitting that? I'm just representing the position correctly.

[B]

Okay, so. So hold on here. So you're. You're going along with the E. Michael Jones philosophy?

[C]

God, you are so stupid. I am saying it's what Catholics believe. That's what they believe. I am not a Catholic. I don't believe in Logos theology. I'm describing what they believe.

[B]

Yes, but you're saying. This is what they're just saying.

[A]

Jim likes E. Michael Jones, by the way.

[C]

I'm sure he does.

[B]

Look, but you're telling me that this is what the Catholic Church is doing. You don't Agree with it. But you. You're trying to tell us this is what they're doing, right?

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. They want. They want the end. They want the end of their own traditional church, Southern Israelite, end of all text, liturgy and hierarchy.

[A]

Like all of us, including me. We just want to know who's pulling the strings and why they're pulling them this way or that way. I don't really.

[C]

It's the Jesuit order to fulfill Yellakim's 3H prophecy.

[A]

See, I've never even heard of that. Who is Yellakum?

[C]

Of course.

[A]

Is that a guy we can follow? Who is that guy?

[C]

Yeah, I talked about this the last time I was on.

[A]

Sorry. My

[C]

Joachim of Fiore, his three Age prophecy. There would be three ages of the church.

[A]

Now, who is he, though? Wait, who. Who is this?

[C]

Yeah, he was. He was a Catholic monk. I think it was in Florence.

[A]

Okay, how do you spell his name? Can we look him up really quick?

[C]

J, O, A, C, H, I, M. Joachim of Fiore. Sometimes it's spelled Flora, F, L, O, R A, but usually it's Fiore. F I, O, R A, I think.

[A]

F I, O, R A. Have you ever heard of this, Jim?

[B]

No, I never heard of this because

[A]

Jim is the most religious guy on the panel besides you. I'm not religious. I'm ignorant of it. Phil is not into it.

[D]

I believe there's no truth.

[C]

Okay, let me ask you a question. You 1488ers, have you ever. Have you ever read Moses, Moses Hess's book, which I'm sure Moses has. He's behind Labor Zionism, right?

[A]

Wait, what?

[C]

Yeah, you ever. You ever read his book, the Holy History of Mankind? Look in the table of contents. What?

[A]

What?

[C]

Look in the table of contents of the book. What's it say? The age of the Father, the age of the Son, the age of the Spirit. That's what it says in the table of contents.

[A]

Dude, you're getting all worked up. You're getting worked up there.

[E]

You.

[A]

You and Johnny get worked up, and everybody. Well, you. Jim gets worked up, too. Hold on a sec. You call it.

[B]

You're worse than me.

[A]

You called us.

[D]

Let me make one thing clear.

[C]

I'm frustrated. These guys, the guy. I just explained everything I believe, and the guy is saying he's. Jim is.

[A]

Or.

[C]

Yeah, Jim was saying that. I. I believe in Roman Catholicism. It's like, dude, I just sat here for half an hour. I'm not. I'm a little frustrated of dealing with idiots on the Internet. I'm absolutely frustrated with dealing with morons.

[B]

Okay, hold on. I want to know what you believe. I'm not criticizing you. I'm not saying.

[C]

That's more of your mouth breathing. I just told you over and over again what I believe. It's the Jesuits executing Joachim's prophecy. What about that was unclear?

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Oh, no, I. I get. I heard what you said.

[D]

All the machinations of religion. I mean, you know, I have found zero truth in religion. Zero. No, I just base my. My philosophy on what I see with my own eyes and what I experience in my own experience. And. And from that I can say that this war is fake because the videos are showing us from the Middle east are just laughingly.

[A]

No, I agree. We got a caller in her. Break it up a bit. Caller in her. Where are you calling from? What's your name? What do you think of the show so far? I think is a. This is a banger.

[E]

Well, it's a good one.

[F]

I'm Richie from Richmond. I think Southern Israelite, just by his name.

[C]

Hold on.

[A]

Richmond. Richie from Richmond. Okay. Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

[F]

But yeah, when they say it's the Jesuits, then I just.

[E]

Come on.

[F]

That's ridiculous.

[C]

Why?

[A]

Why?

[F]

It was good. He sounded smart.

[A]

He is smart. I can tell you right now. He's smart.

[D]

Just.

[A]

Just. He knows.

[F]

On the line too.

[A]

Yeah. Southern Israelite is the one of the guests tonight. You're listening to him.

[F]

Oh, okay. I caught it late. I just ran in.

[A]

You came in on a good show. Ask. You can talk to him directly and I'm sure he'll answer you. Go ahead, ask.

[F]

Is Trump. Is Trump bound to. All right, well, whatever. I'm not going to get involved. Is it the Jesuits or who else but Iran War. Brendan Lee o'. Connell. You guys should know him. You guys ever heard of him? An Aussie man, He went to court. He was in jail for something to do with them. Hate laws or something. And he brought them to court.

[C]

Make them admit

[F]

Judaism.

[A]

Okay, so you. You.

[F]

You're Brandon o'. Connell.

[A]

I have heard of him and I don't really follow him, but just tell us what. He went to court. Where? In Australia.

[F]

In Australia. He went to jail. All that.

[E]

He.

[F]

Rodger Reese. You should look him a great story. But then he ends up in Mexico, you know, where all the Aussies go. Okay, but he's big on. Wait, hold on. He's big on Israeli high tech theft. Like they stole all our technology and all the microchips have a back door. That's how Israel holds us hostage.

[A]

That.

[F]

That pretty smart dude.

[A]

That's. That's cuckoo clock stuff for me. That's. That's conspiracy candy. I don't think Southern, southern Israelites above.

[F]

Three years in Iran. He lived three years in Iran. And he said, listen, Iranian, all the top officials, they all drive Ferraris, Swiss bank accounts. They're in on.

[A]

What does that have to do with the topic of Joaquin of Fiore and his. And this whole thing following along his main ideas? Because you're just giving us little. Little bits and bites. Do you have a question for the Southern.

[F]

I felt I came in when we're talking about fake news. Still think everything's fake.

[A]

Well, we are now. We have. We have a few topics on the go. We have a couple pots in the fire. Fires.

[F]

Well, that's what I'm getting to. Okay, so whatever. If Iran's in on it or what? The US economy will collapse and heard

[C]

that for 20 years.

[F]

That's what it's for.

[A]

Can you give us. Can you give us a date on that?

[F]

Exactly. We're.

[A]

Wait, what date? Can you give me a date? Because I'll pull all my money out of the market before that. What day is that going to happen?

[C]

I'd like to use that to segue right back into the conversation.

[F]

By July, put it that way. Diesel will be $6 by July. All right, that's gonna. That's a problem.

[A]

Okay, you know, it sounds like you need your own show. Let's. You have a question for Southern Israelite because you got the guy on the line now, if you have any questions about history and who's running it, he'll answer you. Go ahead.

[F]

I already know who's running it. I don't. What? The Jesuits? Come on. The Jesuits? Trump ain't bound to a Jesuit wall. He didn't marry his daughters off to a Jesuit people like. All right, you might as well tell me you have got the vaccine.

[C]

Okay, okay, Richie, I'll directly retort. What do you do with Moses Hess's Holy History of Mankind? Read the table of contents. What's it say?

[A]

I don't think he knows that book.

[F]

I don't know. I'm just an average Joe.

[C]

What does Moses has one of the most important people in the modern New World Order. He wrote a book called Holy History of Mankind. He's the founder of labor, Zionism. The whole thing we're dealing with the table of contents. His entire worldview was based on who? Joachim of the. The whole system he laid out in the book.

[F]

Well, Moses sounds like Christopher John nonsense. That's what you Sound. You sound like Christopher. Brilliant. That's all.

[C]

Brilliant response. Brilliant retort. I'm devastated. Another mouth breather on the Internet to waste my time.

[A]

Okay, go ahead.

[F]

How am I wasting your time? What are you doing? Who's Moses? You know, I'm just an average Joe.

[A]

I know.

[F]

Laying block every day. And you know, I just told you Puerto Rican. Stab me in the neck than Moses. Ali.

[C]

So.

[F]

So you can take your high IQ nonsense and say it's a Jesuits all day, dude.

[A]

No, no, he doesn't. Well, he doesn't say that. Okay, Richie, we'll let you go.

[F]

Does he believe in the Holocaust? Does he believe in the Holocaust? How about that?

[C]

There was a systematic program to exterminate the Jews from Europe.

[F]

Yes.

[A]

Okay,

[B]

okay, okay. That's a big, big problem because I believe.

[F]

I love you guys. Who, who, who talk all smart, but then believe, you know, in nukes or.

[A]

He doesn't believe.

[F]

Okay, you know, believe. We're on a spinning ball.

[A]

Okay, you're getting. You're getting into the.

[C]

The.

[A]

Okay, Richie, I gotta let you go because we got esteemed guests here, but thank you for calling. I appreciate you.

[B]

Can we settle that question?

[D]

I had to.

[B]

You believe. You believe that Hitler exterminated 6 million Jews?

[C]

Again, already addressed this, Jim.

[A]

Why is this?

[C]

I have not. The. The debate over whether it was 4 million or 6 million seems so stupid and irrelevant. I've never gotten into it. I don't care. I understand. It is just sad that you men want to argue over that.

[B]

I don't understand why, but I want to just. I want to.

[C]

500,000.

[B]

I want to understand. That's all. So you. So you, you. Okay, let's forget about the number. So you. You believe Hitler had an extermination policy to kill the Jews?

[C]

Sure. Yeah. That's fact.

[B]

How was he gonna do that? What. But by what means, dude?

[C]

I mean, I am not re litigating everything we've learned from. About World War II over this call. Dude, I mean, I'm asking you a question.

[A]

He said he's not going to answer it because he says that this is too low on the totem pole of things to talk about.

[B]

If he thinks Hitler exterminated the Jews, I want to understand how he thinks he did it because there's going to be a way he did it. Okay, so you think they were exterminated like the Jews say, in gas chambers?

[C]

Yeah. And guns. And. And, you know, God knows how many other ways he did it. Again, I've got. This is what he wanted to you lost it.

[B]

You lost it with me because now you believe in something that is completely a lie.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It's completely a lie.

[C]

Okay, Jim, so what's the. Hold on, hold on real quick. So what is the. What is the agenda? To. To hide the fact that the Germans just love the Jews? He. They. He does. Hitler and Goring and all his boys, they were just putting Jews on like, little reservations so they can swim and drink beer all. All day long. They just love the Jews. Right. So what was the point of them lying to us about that? Give me the agenda behind that.

[B]

They were in war camps. The Jew. The Jews are put in war camps. They were working for the Germans in whatever capacity they're working in. But he wasn't exterminating them, so he.

[C]

He enslaved them. He enslaved them and put them in labor camps.

[B]

That's right. That's right.

[A]

Okay, hold on.

[D]

All right, then they would go into labor camps.

[C]

Yes, it was.

[D]

It was an. It was a project of deportation and.

[A]

Okay, okay, hold on a second.

[D]

Deportation is much.

[C]

So again, what is the point? What's the. Get to the point. Why the lie. Why would that. Why would they try to make us believe this hall of hoax happened? Go ahead.

[D]

Because they were flipping the war around because it was the allies who started the war and did all the killing and they had to blame the Germans for something, so they had to invent a holocaust.

[C]

Okay, why would they want to. Why do they want to blame Germany? Again, this is a question I asked you earlier that you dodged. Why did the US Go? Why. Why was there a direct concerted effort to exterminate the German people? Why?

[D]

Because Moses has talks about it.

[A]

Because they were competition in the British Empire. Is a good, good answer, I think.

[D]

And Moses has said there would be a war against the Jews and Aryans and the Jews would end up victorious. And then after that, there would be the new World Order. And that's exactly what happened in World War II. The Aryan people got destroyed and the Jews had been ruling ever since.

[C]

So the reason for the lie was to make Jews look like pathetic victims so that. That would. Yes, because you just said Moses has. His prediction is that he predicted the Jews would conquer the world, which is exactly the opposite of making them look like pathetic victims. And it's.

[D]

And no, because in today's society, the people who are the victims are the ones that have all the political power. If that's why, if you go to Congress, if you go to Washington, D.C. they. They give people victim status, which gives them power in the Senate. That gives them power in the Congress because they can claim that they're victims and that they're oppressed, and then that gives them power. Then. Now the kids.

[C]

So then black people. Black people are in control of the United States government. That's what you're saying.

[D]

They have a. The black people are in charge of a lot of the government.

[C]

Geniuses of the modern New World Order are Sambo and Tyria or whatever that is that. Now that's. That's. That's some dumb.

[A]

Okay, hold on. We gotta. Wait, wait, wait. We gotta call her in her.

[B]

Hold on.

[A]

Caller in her. Where are you calling from? What's your name?

[F]

Hey, fakeologist.

[E]

Hey, Jen.

[A]

Hey, you better get your question. Make your question point. We got a lot of strong personalities here, Jay.

[E]

Yes, yes.

[F]

I. I want to know the Southern Israelite. I don't know what the.

[E]

What. What the.

[F]

Who the guy you're talking about is, but it seems like.

[A]

I guess the.

[C]

The way Bill knows who Moses s. Is. He was just talking about him a minute ago. He knows who Moses is.

[F]

No, no, no. I. I don't. I'm saying I don't. But. But it sounds like what you're saying is because you're saying they're trying to destroy their own church. So it sounds like. It sounds like they're trying to, like, how do you say, make religion look useless. Right. Make everything look bad so that the people just go to what they're trying

[E]

to push all along. Right.

[C]

That's why they don't want it. They wouldn't want to destroy per se, like. Absolutely. They want to maintain the institution, but they want to make. Have a revolution of theology in the church.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah. They want to get away from. Which is unsubscribe. It's a fact. The Roman Catholic Church has been greatly revolutionized ever since Vatican ii. That's just a fact. And again, who was the main figure behind Vatican ii? It was Teilhard des Chardin. Teilhard Deschardine. The exact man who Elon Musk worships today. He has an emblem of Elon, of Teilhard Deshardins. Omega theology right around his neck. He's got that Omega necklace on. That's. That. He's. He's an acolyte of Tealheart. He's a Jesuit priest, and they believe.

[D]

Have you ever watched Europa? Oh, can you hear me?

[A]

Yeah, go ahead, Phil, Go ahead.

[D]

Have you ever watched Europa, the Final Battle? What's your critique on that documentary Europa the Final Battle?

[C]

No, I think I've Heard of that? Is that a. Is that a 1488 er production?

[A]

Wait, what is it? What is a 1488 er, by the way? What is a 1488 or a 1488?

[D]

It's not a 1488 er. Is that a Slurpa is. It's a. It's a collection of eyewitness testimonies of people who lived in Germany at the time of the war. They're not, they're not neo Nazis. They're not 1488ers. These are real Germans who are giving their testimony of what happened during World War II. Have you ever watched that documentary? And if not, why not? And you need to watch it and give a critique and you need to tell us where that documentary goes wrong.

[A]

Okay, now I know. Now I know what a 1488 ER is because I didn't know that term. Okay, Jay, I gotta go because we got two more callers I want to pound.

[F]

Thank you for.

[A]

Thanks for calling. I appreciate you. I'm not trying to cut you off, but I want to get as many calls in as I can. Here's another caller in her hold.

[F]

Time 15 seconds.

[A]

I think, I think I missed the other one. Go ahead. Caller in or what's your name?

[C]

What think do you.

[A]

You calling about or where you calling from? Johnny? Okay, John the Beggar, I think that's you. Okay, John the beggar is having a heart attack, I think so we'll have to go to the next. We'll have to. Next caller. Okay, the next caller. Anyway, so, okay, Apollyon is saying, what a farce. Well, stop listening. Press the stop button if you don't want to listen to.

[B]

Paulian doesn't like me.

[A]

No, he doesn't like the show either. He doesn't like. He doesn't like anything. But you know what? This can be your hate listen. Everyone needs a hate listen. If you don't like the show and you just like to hate, then keep going. We got more of this. Okay, so let's get back to.

[D]

So Drake, you also have to watch Hell Storm. It's a, it's a 90 minute documentary by Thomas Goodrich. And he, and he discusses the 165 firebombed German cities. Any. And, and in that documentary, you will see photographs that you've never seen in any other program. Now, and that's a good question right there is how come I was never shown these dead women and children when I was in college? Because my professor never showed me all these dead women and children that were in Germany.

[A]

And so by the way, for the record, I think a lot of that is propaganda too. I'm not as, I'm not, I'm not convinced like Phil that this, that is a real thing either. So I, I put it well.

[D]

I'm also convinced that we burned women and children over in Japan. I believe that we firebombed 65 Japanese cities.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

That women and children.

[A]

Why, why wouldn't we just, why wouldn't they evacuate the cities first and then burn them? Because again, you don't think there was time.

[D]

As many Japanese civilians as possible. Also because the Germans and the Japanese were fighting communism, the Japanese were fighting the Chinese communists.

[A]

Okay, so you think those murders, you think, you think, okay, what does Drake think of that? Do you believe that in the body counts In World War II, Japan, Germany, what do you think?

[C]

I have never deliberated on how, like exactly how many. In every single battle. All I, what I have looked into is how many, how many Germans died, how many Russian Orthodox Christians died. And, and you know, I'm not going to get into debate on the Jews. Obviously there was a concerted effort to exterminate the Jews. And I, I asked myself, why is he talking over me? I asked myself, who benefited, who benefited from World War II? It was Pope Leo XII. It's very obvious who benefited from World War II.

[D]

It wasn't a. Jews have. Because Einstein is, has become the genius of the universe. We live in Einstein's universe ever since 1945. See, Einstein is not a Jesuit.

[C]

Einstein got everything he learned from, from lemaitre. He was a Jesuit priest. Lemaitre. He got everything from the Maitri. What are you talking about?

[D]

Einstein? He looks like a Jew to me. I mean, no, no, no.

[C]

He got trained, he got all of his content from Lemaitre. He was a Jesuit priest. L E M A I D R E Look it up. It was, Dude, I wrote a, I wrote a over 600 page book on the flat earth. Let me, let me ask, I know

[A]

all this history Southern, Southern Israelite. Why is it that the easy like I, I, I'm on your side with this debate because I think what we don't know is probably the truth. I think the easy stuff, the easy low hanging fruit is left for the average person to grab and run with. Of course promote and get into trouble for talking about by design. So if you're given the wrong people that are in charge and there are laws against it, they're going to tie you up in knots while they're walking off in the background. With all the loot, I thought that from day one. There's no way. The easy story is the story. It just doesn't make sense at this level of trickery, tomfoolery.

[C]

So I'm just. I'm personally, I'm blown aback by how many people become millionaires saying everything's to blame on the Jews.

[A]

I.

[C]

What's his name? Andrew Anglin, millionaire, blames everything on the Jews. Nick Fuentes, multimillionaire, blames everything on the Jews. If I was to come out and start blaming everything on the Jews, oh, I can make. I can make a million dollars, too. It's very obvious what the deep state is funding. It's funding Phil and Jim's narrative. It's not funding the narrative that the Catholic Church. You cannot make money saying the Pope of Rome, the Jesuits are behind everything. You can't make money doing it.

[D]

I can guarantee you that you have more money than me. Okay, so, yeah, that's.

[C]

That's true. Because I work for it. I work my ass for it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't get. I have.

[D]

I've worked.

[A]

Okay, hold on a sec. We're not having a work competition here. You guys are all. You guys are all hard. Everyone here is an entrepreneur. You're all a hard working bunch. I'll give you all of that. And I am, too. Hold on. We got a caller on the line. Call her. What's your name and where are you calling from? Call her in or go call her.

[E]

Inner Dean in northern Mexico.

[A]

Dean is in northern Mexico. What do you think it Tonight Show? It's a blockbuster, isn't it?

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Yeah. What do you think? You have a question for anyone on this esteemed panel?

[B]

Yeah, just.

[E]

I'm surprised Rizzoli hasn't brought up the fact that homicidal gas chambers don't exist. They never exist.

[C]

Here we go.

[F]

I don't know.

[B]

They won't let me.

[E]

Mr. Southern Israelite, can nobody stops you,

[A]

Jim, on this show, so don't say that.

[C]

Let me ask. Does anyone here have. Has actually written a good size book of, you know, single space, 10 to 12 point fine on the history of the Holocaust? Has anybody done that or have any degree specializing in that field?

[B]

Yes. Yes. Grandma Rudolph has 54 volumes in the Holocaust handbooks series that covers every aspect of the Holocaust, Every camp, everything that happened with the Jews, Everybody. Okay, so it's been done. Okay.

[C]

The question I asked was, does anybody here. Has Jim or Phil actually written anything specific on this?

[B]

I don't write books.

[C]

There we go. See that's why. That's why I got away from the Internet. That's what I know. But you guys on the Internet, you want to be entertained. You don't want to read books, and that's why everything you believe is nonsense.

[B]

Well, that's not true, because I have. I've read plenty of books in the books. You know what? You know what I don't understand about you? I don't understand about you that you have no clue about the Holocaust.

[A]

All right, okay, okay.

[F]

Again.

[C]

Again, we've already been through this. Where that leads is you saying that black people run the New World Order. Jim, get with that opinion.

[A]

Okay, hold on a second.

[B]

I never said that.

[A]

Okay, hold on.

[C]

Okay, let's go with Jim then. We already. We already.

[A]

No, no, I don't want to go. I don't want to. I don't want to go on this one again. Hold on. Dean, from New Mexico or Old Mexico? Do you have any more questions? Did that answer that?

[E]

Okay, well, there's no laws in place, you know, for criticized. You don't go to jail for criticizing, you know, Catholics. Okay, okay.

[A]

Wait, wait. Okay. Southern Israelite, why are there no laws against speaking out like you do on your topic?

[C]

Yeah, because there's no political capital in it. And if you look at you. What's his name? Ted Kaczynski and his Eco Terrorist movement, you see the same thing with them. They get persecuted for saying what they're saying. The Alien Disclosure guys, they get persecuted for saying what they're saying. This is what. This is what's called a martyrdom fallacy. It's called a martyrdom fallacy.

[D]

Do you believe Ted was really in jail over Hollywood?

[C]

I. I've never. I've never deliberated on the matter, but from everything I've read, he went to jail.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you think Ted Kaczynski is Jesuit theater? Do you think that's real?

[C]

Because I think from what I read from Ted Kaczynski's Industrial. The Industrial Society in His Future, I think it's one of the greatest publications in the history of the human race.

[A]

Okay, but do you think that guy with the big beard in the cabin wrote it, though?

[D]

Yeah, he was not in jail.

[A]

Yeah, I don't believe that.

[C]

Well, I don't care what you guys believe. What's. What's your proof?

[A]

No, we don't. We don't have to prove it. They have to prove. They have to prove it. Hold on a sec. We got some funny noise in the background, so can y'.

[E]

All.

[C]

Can Y' all prove that it's March 11, 2026 today. Can y' all prove that?

[A]

Yes, because Bill Gates says to me on my computer it's March 11th.

[C]

See, this is, this is where you're all's. My, you're all's epistemology leads to. It's just you, you, you, you kill these. You say you can't believe anything that's in a published book. No, I mean you can't know what this is. Why these movement, this Jacobin stuff doesn't go anywhere. It doesn't go anywhere.

[A]

What's the way?

[C]

You guys don't have a. You don't have an alternative because your epistemology ends up self terminating. That's why you don't. You, you can't get anything together to actually resist the system here.

[A]

What's the Southern Jacobite? What is that?

[B]

What have you done? What have you done to resist the system?

[C]

I've written, I've written 28.

[B]

I don't even know. I don't even know anything about you.

[C]

So let me. You're not even going to let me respond here? I've written 20. I've written 28 books to provide a books.

[B]

Your books are not anywhere. Where are they?

[A]

They're on Amazon. Come on, Jim.

[B]

Oh, come on. Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah. If I, if I have been saying, if I had been saying that everything's to blame on the Jews. Oh, everybody would know about me. The news would publish everything about me. Yeah, we got this neo Nazi here. We need to, we need to platform him so he gets a bunch of followers. Exactly what happens with guys like you that actually put the work into getting famous.

[B]

So you believe when Neo Nazis.

[C]

Of course. Dude, you're literally defending Hitler. What else would you be?

[B]

Hitler was doing what was right.

[C]

That's why it's exactly what Nick Fuentes says. Exactly what Nick Fuentes said. I think he said like a month ago. In the future you're only going to be able to be a communist or a Nazi. We're not to going. Not going to allow any other narratives. That's the way this, that's the way

[D]

the world works is not. Nick. Fluency does not represent the, the position of the German people that were. That were burned alive in 100. The salt of the earth people. The German people who, who built the. The strongest economy in Europe and, and were 10 years ahead of every other European country.

[C]

They did not build the strongest in Europe. They were given money by Joseph P. Kennedy who sent them millions of dollars. Dollars of our Goal. Which is why our country is so up with its currency system right now. And really, for the. For decades on end, Joseph P. Kennedy had the Federal Reserve bank send Hitler's regime millions and millions of our dollars in gold.

[B]

How can you. How can you prove that is a.

[C]

That is a fact.

[B]

How do you prove that?

[A]

Yeah, can we prove that?

[C]

I. I watch my documentary, dude. You. I have it all in my documentary for free.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

From H.S. keenan's book.

[A]

What's the name of the document?

[C]

This is well known. It's from. It's from Senate hearings. There's a senator who. From the whole country and told everybody what was going on.

[A]

Hey, what's the name of the documentary? Just to remind people.

[C]

Occupied by Rome.

[A]

Occupied by Rome. I put a link to that in the show notes. So we're all going to watch that. And you have another documentary as well that's the follow up to that. Part 2.

[C]

New York's War against the United States.

[A]

I'm still working on that one. I'm going to actually have to listen to that now because I wasn't sure for sure you'd be on the show. But I did ask you to come back on the show anyway. On your own.

[D]

Drake, do you believe that General Patton was killed in a car accident?

[A]

Oh, God.

[C]

Look at. This is just bizarre. This stuff you guys have to resort to. I. I don't know, man. I haven't looked into it, man. I'm giving you leading figures. I'm giving you leading books on what's going on. And you're asking you. You. You want to focus on Operation Barbarossa and how General Patton died. It's just. This is all. This is the best you guys have, man.

[D]

It's kind of a big deal.

[A]

Okay, hold on a sec. Any. Anything else on the phone before I let you go? Because we're gonna have to wrap it up soon.

[C]

You told me. Talking to me?

[A]

No, I'm talking about Dean in Mexico. Oh, Dean in Northern Mexico. Anything else before we wrap it up?

[E]

Trump's. Trump's biggest donor. It's not a Jesuit. He's a Jew.

[A]

Do you have any proof of that?

[E]

Miriam Adelson, 250 million.

[A]

Do you have any proof that he's. He's that donor? The biggest donor.

[E]

She's the wife of Sheldon Adelson. He's a casino mogul.

[A]

No, I know, but that's the official story.

[C]

But is there any proof? Exactly. When it comes to this Jewish shit, whatever the. Whatever is on the mainstream, they use as Adam Green does this all the time. Whatever's on the mainstream that feeds into the neo Nazi narrative. That's gospel. But anything, everything else is fake.

[D]

Adam Green does not speak for us. You're getting us confused.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, he's talking to the caller now, though.

[D]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Okay. Dean or Dean. Yeah, Dean. I'm gonna let you go. Thank you for calling. I got a lot of interesting calls tonight. We're at about an hour. I mean, I. This show could go on for hours and hours and you guys.

[B]

Well, I want. I really look at. Can you make it go a little bit? I want to. Really?

[A]

You want some more?

[B]

Because it's not that I. I don't like.

[A]

I gotta get up early.

[B]

I, I do feel he's very ignorant of, of the World War II, which is a very big war, and, and what happened with Hitler and the Jews and all that. You're very relevant.

[C]

Okay, yeah, because it's an irrelevant. It's an irrelevant.

[B]

Hold on here. Hold on. It's irrelevant to you, but it's not irrelevant to the Jews who are making it a big deal right now.

[C]

But, yeah, and I've asked you. I've asked you to present. I mean, I, I know who the biggest Jew behind the Labor Zionist movement has been is. Moses has. And, yeah, and when you look at his book Holy History of Mankind or something like that, the whole. The whole book's based on Joachim's prophecy. So, you know, show me this Jewish movement that has arisen that benefits Israel. We. We look at this guy, George Soros. He's hated by the nation of Israel. George Soros wants to turn Israel into a global homo melting pot. All the Jews in Israel hate him. Now you guys think he's in control. So which. Show me this movement that benefits the Jewish people in the nation of Israel. Show it to me.

[D]

Soros is up front guy. No, I don't.

[C]

I have heard that from thousands. Like, like, dude, like 99.

[B]

I don't believe Soros is in control. I don't believe that.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Then present your position. Show me. I've told you who I think's in control. I, I pointed out Moses has Tillard, Jardine, Elon Musk. I'm giving you names. I'm giving you the theologies that they're operating under. Give me the names and give me the system that they're operating under. The Jews. Go ahead.

[D]

They won't tell us who's in charge. The person who's really pulling the levers. I think safely in the shadow.

[A]

I think Drake is telling you who it is? I think Drake is laid it out pretty good.

[D]

Like, I, I don't even believe Rothschild is the top guy. I believe Rothschild is a guy they put out there and they tell us that he's the richest man in the world. But I don't even, I don't believe that they're not going to tell us who the richest man in the world. Okay, It's Drake.

[A]

Can you, Sorry to interrupt, Phil. Drake, can you tell me what is Tammany hall exactly? What is that?

[C]

Tammany hall was the political machine that arose in the late 1800. That's literally the phrase it's used for political machine. Terry Galway up in New Jersey, he's a liberal Irish Catholic. He's the leading scholar in America on this right now. And the name of his book is Machine Made Tammany hall and the Creation of American Modern American Politics.

[A]

But what does it refer to?

[C]

It was an institution that was set up to help immigrants in New York and it was taken over by Irish Catholics. And there was this one specific guy that was, he was like a gangster who was, you know, running the thing. His name was Boss Tweed and he was running all these, after the potato famine and all that, he was running all these Irish and Italian Catholics through New York, giving them citizenship. He was bribing the local politicians to let it happen. He was blackmailing, threatening them to let it happen. And he was making a lot of money off of it. And the Irish Catholics got in control of it and a guy named Al Smith in the late 1800s, early 20th century came to predominance in Tammany Hall. And it was basically the Democratic, the northern Democratic Party in the south, the Democratic Party was the kkk, which is what I support. That's what my family has been a part of. Robert Shelton, he was a cousin of mine. He was the imperial wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. My grandfather was a high ranking member of the Ku Klux Klan down in Mississippi. That is, the Ku Klux Klan is a tradition of my people. That's what I support.

[A]

You know, I, I, that's not a CIA front, the kkk, that's a real thing.

[D]

No, I believe the KKK was a Yankee glow operation.

[A]

Okay, hold on a sec.

[C]

Have you read Susan Davis's book on the authentic history of the kkk? She was right there. Oh, that's right. You don't read books. Okay, wait a minute.

[D]

Is it, wait, is it available on Amazon?

[A]

Okay, hold on a sec.

[D]

On Amazon.

[A]

Let me just read this here. Tammany hall was a powerful Democratic Party political machine that dominated New York City politics for much of the 19th and early 20th centuries. It began as the Society of Tammany, or Columbian order, founded in 1786 as a patriotic and social club that soon became deeply involved in local politics. Over time, Tammany hall came to mean both the organization and its physical headquarters building in Manhattan. That's what I was trying to get at. I just wanted to know.

[C]

Later on, later on, the Irish Catholics take control of it because they became so populous, because Abraham Lincoln brought all them over here so they could murder our people down in the South. And so the Irish took control of it. And then you got all these Italians coming in, and because they were both Catholics, they worked together. And then the Jews got involved with them as well in order to fight against the Anglo Saxon Protestant mercantile class up in New England. And I mean, there's a sense in which.

[B]

I'm glad.

[C]

I'm glad they won because those Yankee Protestants up in New England, they were traitors to their own people, and they. They murdered their own people for money because our Southern plantations were able to compete with their factories and they wanted to steal tariff money out of the ports of Charleston and New Orleans.

[B]

Okay, I'm glad you brought up that you were a Klansman, because that. And I'm not negative on that at all, but I'm glad because now I understand why you're so into the Catholic Church, okay? Because the clan and the Catholic Church, boy, didn't mix at all. No, no, I get it. I get it.

[A]

Yeah. Drake is pretty very well read. Way more well read than I am, I'll admit that. Hold on. We got a caller in or another one. Then we should wrap it up. Caller in or. Where are you calling from? What's your name?

[E]

I'm Sean from Idaho.

[A]

Sean, what do you think of this banger of a show?

[E]

I. You know, I just started listening.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[E]

Yeah, it's quite a. Quite a joker. There's like. There's no apparatus. There's no. There's no organized Jewish apparatus. Adl, splc, the guy breath. I mean, I can go on and on and on and on. Every single.

[C]

The FBI, the CIA, the nsa, all of that's run by cast Catholic. Oh, that. That doesn't mean anything. Yeah, all the leading. All the leading military orders are all cat. Run by Catholics.

[E]

They're lackeys. They're lackeys. So you big money.

[F]

So nobody thinks.

[E]

So nobody thinks source is in control, dude. Nobody thinks source is in control.

[C]

Yes, literally 99 of 1488ers believe that Soros is way up there.

[E]

You're out of your mind.

[C]

Your butt hurt. I'm sorry. You've been brainwashed by YouTube.

[D]

You've got the YouTube version of 1488. You know what? Dr. You, you know nothing about. About who we are. You have never watched Europa. You have never watched Hellstorm. You know absolutely nothing about who we are. You speak.

[C]

You don't know.

[D]

You know absolutely nothing. All you do is read books from Amazon and you're stupid.

[A]

Oh, he writes. I think you got.

[F]

There's, there's.

[E]

Nobody has a more organized. No organized racial.

[A]

Sean, let me ask a question. Have you ever heard of Tammany Hall?

[E]

I don't give a shit about Tammany. What does Tammy do with anything?

[A]

Okay, so you haven't heard of it. I've never really heard of it until

[B]

they made a whole movie about that. Tim. I forgot the name of it. That was that what? That's what it was about.

[A]

Was that good? Was that.

[C]

Yes, amazing movie. One of my favorite movies.

[A]

Hold on. I should watch that. Gangs of New York.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Gangs of New York. Oh, boy. What do you see? What the hell happened in that movie?

[A]

So was that the Drake? Was that the truth? Was that accurate or.

[C]

Yeah, pretty much, yeah. I mean, obviously they had to do some Hollywood embellishment, but I mean, William Bill the Butcher, I mean, he lays out the major points of Daniel Saxons were making at that time.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, all the time. All the time. About these, these like.

[A]

Hold on a second. Where'd that music come from? Hold on.

[E]

I mean, like a good example. Howard Lugnick. You guys are just talking about Howard Lucknow. He's a handler for Trump. I mean, they're everywhere. Every administration has like, is. Is completely political.

[A]

You think, you think the Jews run the world? You, you think?

[E]

Yes, yes.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Absolutely.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Absolutely.

[C]

All right, so give me the name in the system. Give me the name of the leaders and give me the system of ideology they're operating on. Go ahead.

[E]

Yeah, it's the tour. They, it's the, the Talmud. They, they work their religious. They're nothing. Supremacists. Yeah, you got nothing, bro. You got nothing. Yeah, you got.

[C]

So you, you think, you think Moses was operating off the talent? You think Moses has Was operating off the Talmud?

[E]

They all work off the Talmud.

[C]

And whether they like, you're totally ignorant. You know nothing about Moses s. Or what he wrote. Thank you.

[B]

Okay, well, Greg, I got a question for you. Look at. I, I, I'm enjoying this conversation with you. What you have, though, I think you might have the wrong viewpoint of me because, you know, I'm, you know, whatever. But okay, since you believe that, don't

[A]

you guys going out. Don't you guys leave the show agreeing with each other, because then I can't bring it back.

[B]

This something. I don't agree with them.

[A]

Okay, good.

[B]

But here's what I want to understand. In order to. To run the world, you have to have the money behind you. So where is the money correct. These people.

[C]

Look at. Look at Candace Owens. What's her big. Who's like the biggest player on YouTube right now? Kansas. She gets like 3 million views of it. Who does she blame everything on? The Jews, just like you. This is how you become a millionaire, is saying what you say. You don't become a millionaire by saying what I say.

[B]

Okay, but you didn't answer my question. The Jesuits, who you believe are the ones behind all this. Where is their. Where is their money based? That enables them to control everything.

[C]

Oh, the private reserve.

[E]

There's no. That's hilarious, Drake.

[A]

Tammany hall was from the past. Do they. Are they still called that or is there a new name today?

[C]

It was just after the Kennedy administration. They didn't need. I mean, they were in power now. They didn't need anymore. And it was. It had a terribly nefarious history, so they wanted to kind of bury that.

[A]

So they don't really have just the

[C]

Democratic Party because it's just a Democratic Party now. So, I mean, it just means being a Democrat.

[A]

Okay. Because the Jews are really easy for people to focus on. It's. It's only four.

[E]

Because they're behind. They're behind everything.

[A]

I know.

[E]

You turn over. Here they are.

[A]

Drake, can you give your. Your slogan about what's in. What's obvious is wrong.

[C]

What's popular is never true. What's popular is never true.

[A]

What do you think of that?

[D]

And that's where you live.

[A]

It is popular.

[D]

What's popular is not true. You live your life in the popularity realm. You have never even researched where we're coming from. You live Your Life on YouTube and Amazon and you think you're educated.

[A]

You know what, Drake? I didn't. I didn't think it was possible, but you've made Phil madder than Jim tonight. That's amazing. That.

[B]

That is Jim, I really am enjoying the conversation. I like to hear what people say, but see, I think you're wrong about. You said that the Federal Reserve is controlled by the Jews. I Mean all the heads of them.

[C]

No, I don't say that. He asked me who. Where the Jesuits are getting their money from. When you look at most of your See the most of the head leadership of the Federal Reserve bank, they're usually trained at Georgetown University. That's the main Jesuit school in America.

[A]

That's right. You know, that's an internationalist school. Globalist school. That's where they teach people.

[C]

The guy that got the. Hold on, hold on. The guy that got the income tax passed in America, his name was Oscar, Oscar Underwood. Who was he supporting for president when he got that done? Al Smith, Tammany hall regime. Interesting, interesting.

[A]

Well, where.

[E]

Where's the location of these Tammany halls? I mean, I could see a lot

[C]

of Masonic New York, man.

[E]

I see a lot of. I see a lot of synagogues, but I don't see too many ways.

[A]

Well, hold on. That's that. That was a social club in Manhattan. We already. I already went through that. Maybe before you got on the call.

[E]

Maybe it's just a gay bar. I don't know.

[B]

Go watch the movie. You'll learn all about Tammany hall if you watch that movie.

[D]

Where.

[A]

I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna take the week off, I think next week and watch it because it's two. It's about two hours or so anyway. Gangs of New York. I'm gonna watch New York. Yeah, I'm gonna watch it. Jim's endorsing movie.

[E]

You like movie?

[A]

Anyway, do you know what it's about, Sean?

[E]

Oh, yeah, I've seen it multiple times.

[A]

But what's it about?

[E]

It's about Gangs of New York. It's about it. Basically, they were a political class in New York that were, you know, pushing people around. They're taking Irish people and forcing them to vote for their candidates. And, you know, fresh off the boat, they would buy their, you know, basically buy their boat by giving them stuff and things like that.

[A]

Any Jews?

[E]

According to the movie? No, but it's not that I know by a Jew. It's probably written by a Jew, so it's probably. Yeah, there's no Jews. Yeah, you're not gonna, you know, they're not gonna usually point the finger at themselves. And that's why your nonsense about that. It's, you know, that it's the popular. That's the popular opinion. It's not. It's been promoted. I mean, I mean, like, look at a lot of the mobsters in the day. A lot of the mobsters were Jewish. A lot of Them. But every time. They're all Italians. They're all Italians in the movie. Yeah, right.

[C]

Really? When the, the Appalachian mob convention that the Kennedy family exposed. They're all Italians. All of them were Italians. The idea that the Jews could, could match the power of the five families, Dude, I mean, come on, where are you getting. It's just what you want to believe.

[E]

Here's why. Matt, Matt, if you don't, even if you don't acknowledge that they're heavily, heavily involved, you don't have any credibility. That's all there is.

[C]

Are there any credibility? I've said in my, in my documentary, Roy Cohn is behind President Trump's administration. Was Roy Cohn. He was a Jewish lawyer. No, he's dead. He died of it. He was a total degenerate. But again, who did Roy Cohn serve? He was known as the right hand legal counsel for the Italian mafia and for Jesuit trained Roman Catholic degenerate Joe McCarthy. Yeah, I mean he, they are acolytes.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Acolytes of the power structure.

[A]

All right, Sean, I gotta let you go because, Sean, I gotta let you go because I need to wrap it

[E]

too much sense, make it too much.

[A]

No, no, you, you've made your point.

[C]

Thanks.

[A]

Sean. Sean.

[D]

Bye.

[B]

Bye. Can I ask, can I ask Greg another question?

[A]

Who's Greg?

[F]

Greg.

[C]

Not great.

[B]

What is the name?

[F]

Drake.

[A]

Drake.

[C]

Drake.

[B]

B R A K E. I couldn't hear. Okay, so you, you basically are a KKK guy, right?

[C]

Yeah. Okay, so if there was a legitimate KKK today that wasn't completely infiltrated by the feds, and

[B]

I read a whole Bonds review article about the KKK and it was really good and. Okay, so where do you guys meet? And when you have your meetings, do you have your flags?

[C]

Listen, listen, I, I, I've tried to be parts of members of the kkk. Like they're all infiltrated by federal agents. All of them. I, I can't be a member, I can't be a part of these groups. You know, I mean, look, and personally I'm from, from what the US government did with the kkk. It may have been a big mistake to have those hoods on because what Ulysses S. Grant, what Gary Thomas Rowe did with the federal cointelpro operations, they, they would infiltrate the Klan and wear these hoods and it, people would think that it was the Klan, the Southern Klan doing these acts of violence and it was actually the federal government doing it. The whole idea of a secret society, I don't know.

[A]

Secret.

[C]

It seems like a, like a Bad strategy.

[A]

A secret society should be secret, Drake. Did you know that? I looked it up. You're similar to your quote, Albert Einstein is the one attributed to what is right is not always popular, and what is popular is not always right. Do you think Einstein said that?

[C]

I don't know.

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

No, I'm just bringing it up. But no, I think.

[C]

I think I would go further with that. It's not just what's popular is pretty much never 99% of the time isn't true.

[A]

Yeah, I kind of. I kind of agree with you on that. And to be honest, when I started my truth journey in 2012, I had a guy named Robin on, and he was going on about the Knights of Malta the first week I started broadcasting. And he got nothing but grief because he was very similar to you and your belief system, which he didn't go into it in the depth you did in the books and whatnot. But I. William Cooper.

[C]

William Cooper, the old truther radio guy here in America. His book, Behold a Pale Horse, that's what he said in his book, was that the Knights of Malta were in control.

[A]

Yes, yes, I know that. Yeah.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I like William Cooper.

[C]

There is no way. There is no way in hell that William Cooper could write that the Knights of Malta were behind the New World Order and be a fed. There's no way.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah, William Cooper was a big. Oh, William Cooper did not get killed in the shootout.

[A]

Well, that was the official story. That was the official story.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Most of us, I don't believe most official stories, so I don't think Phil does either. I'm not sure about Jim and Drake. Maybe you don't look into it, but what. There's a lot.

[C]

Official story. Who the hell even knows about William Cooper nowadays? A big official story.

[A]

No, the official story about how he died. That's what I'm saying. The official story.

[B]

Drake, you must be on an island by yourself because so far, just by going how everybody has been reacting to you, I mean, again, I don't look at you bad. I actually like what I'm hearing from you. Okay, but here's the thing. It seems like every. I would say, what, 80, 90% of the people here that probably don't support what you're doing. You know what I mean?

[A]

Well, I do.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, pretty much all the callers agreed with you guys. Seems the popular opinion is that the Jews are.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That control of everything. And that seems to be the. The opinion that gets funded. That's how you get rich nowadays.

[A]

It doesn't fund my operation.

[D]

Winter themselves into so many different factions.

[A]

Yeah, it's the.

[D]

The Jews want to be seen as a bad guy right now. And they promote people like. Like Candace Owens and the other guy, Nick Fuentes. They. They promote people like this to talk bad about them because they want people to talk bad about them in the way they want to be talked bad about. But they won't allow people like me who actually expose what. What exactly they're doing. See, my channel gets shoved in the basement of the Internet and I don't make any money and I don't sell anything.

[A]

Phil, I. I still think you should.

[C]

You don't have a plat. You don't have an alternative position for anyone, man. Yeah, you're not actually like presenting any solutions. You're just whining about how the world's up.

[D]

The Jews from the Jews do a Hollywood production. That's the only thing Jews are good at. That's what.

[C]

Yeah, you know. You know who. The Jews. You know where the Jews got there? No, real quick. You know where the Jews actually got their platform in the media and in Hollywood? They got it from Joseph P. Kennedy.

[A]

Exactly. Yeah.

[D]

Only thing the Jews are good at.

[A]

An Irish Catholic. Yeah.

[C]

You understand that Lloyd, a Jesuit priest, and it was Daniel Lloyd and Joseph P. Kennedy are the ones who created modern Hollywood and brought the Jews into promise. Before the time of Joseph P. Kennedy, Jewish Hollywood was considered just smut. Nobody paid attention to it.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And Daniel Lloyd and Joseph P. Kennedy with a. It's called. It was called the fbo. They were the ones. They literally brought in Jewish movie makers, clean their act up, made them make family friendly movies. And that's where they made their fortune.

[A]

Okay, Drake, I want. I want to wrap it up now. Let's get one. I want one last question for Drake. I know I've asked it before of you, but you and Johnny Suruchi have some overlap. Were you guys on our show before together? Ever? Did I ever get you guys on the same show?

[C]

No. No, no.

[A]

Or did you not agree to it or.

[C]

He.

[A]

He.

[C]

He challenged me to a fist last year. Yeah, after. After I dunked on him pretty hard. But you don't have Johnny.

[A]

Johnny's the strongest voice out there that's similar to yours. Is there anyone else similar?

[C]

No, no. He doesn't talk about. These guys don't know the Eric John Phelps and. And Johnny Cerucci. They don't understand Joachim. They don't understand what it means. They don't understand the Actual theology behind the Jesuits. They don't, they don't get it. It, they don't read theology. In order to understand the world, you have to understand theology. Everything's theology.

[D]

So everything stay away from theology because it, religion and theology have nothing to do with what's going on in the world.

[C]

It's all, it has everything to do with what's going on in the world. The whole thing going on in the Middle east right now, which is my whole reason for coming on here, is that what is unfolding right now is Baptist eschatology that the Jesuits created hundreds of years ago. They want everybody to think that Baptist theology is coming to pass. This whole, all this anti Jewish fury. This is the Baptist interpretation of Ezekiel, chapter 38. It's called the Gog and Magog war. They want to get everybody fomented into, you know, hating the Jews. So it looks like Baptist theology is coming to pass. Have you ever seen that movie the Doom. The Fremen in Dune, that's the Baptist church, literally. And there was Lucas. He actually. The women who were in charge of the world at the time, the Bene Gesserit, you know, he admitted who. They were framed after the Jesuits. And they, the whole movie is about how these Jesuits create a system of eschatology for these people called the Fremen for political gain. That's exactly what's going on in Iran right now. They want everyone to think the Baptist religion is coming to pass.

[D]

A lot of people are deceived by these religions and that's why people are jumping on board with this Iran thing. But the facts are it's a money laundering operation there. It's, it's a military industrial complex. They're just laundering money. And it's, and, and they're moving populations into Europe. These Arab countries are, are replacing the indigenous population of Europe and that's what's really happening. Drake and I noticed you didn't mention that at all during all of your readings of Amazon. You, you don't care about.

[A]

He wrote on Amazon. His book is on Amazon. All right, Phil, that was a good show. Phil. Phil, I hope you didn't get too worked up. You just took Jim's, you took Jim's position this week of getting all worked up with the guests. So.

[D]

Hey, Drake, it was good, it was great talking to you.

[A]

I hope, I hope you call. I hope you can take some deep breaths. Jim. Jim is so calm. I think he fell asleep. You okay, Jim?

[B]

No, I, I. Look, I'm listening to Drake and I really agree with A lot of things he says. Well, I just want to let him know that, yeah, I got a whole Holocaust view of things. Yes, that's another view that you're saying is good.

[A]

Jim, we can't all know everything. Not, we can't every. Because, you know, you believe in Judy Wood and I think she's an absolute nutcase. So we all have our differences. Let's just choose our overlaps. There's a lot of overlap. I think Drake is on to something big and he's the only one on it that I can see. He's an island unto himself. Drake, would you come back on the show and talk about your last documentary and the Iran. Would you come back?

[C]

I'd have to talk to my business. We usually work 12 to 14 hours a day. I'm just taking a day off today because I felt, felt under the weather.

[F]

Weather.

[A]

Yeah. Well, you can pick any day you want. I'll, I'll clear the tracks for you. I'm sure if you, I mean, our,

[C]

our slowest days are Tuesday, Wednesday, so it'd have to be either Tuesday or Wednesday.

[A]

That's fine. What day is it today? Wednesday. Well, I could bump. Yeah, I, I could. Who's Tuesday? Tim Osmond. Well, I'm sure any one of these guys would step, step aside or allow you to come on because I think you have a very strong message and I think it's, it's worth listening to. So I'd like to go over your last documentary after I watch it again or start to watch it. So if you don't mind, because I like different views and I personally have held similar views to yours the whole time, but no one's ever explained it like you have, so that's because nobody seems to know of it or study it. And maybe it's suppressed, maybe it's not. And even if you're not a full fledged fakeologist, I still like to hear what the heck is going on in this world because there is no good explanation out there right now. Maybe yours is the best. So if you want to come back on and take some calls, and I know everyone is brainwashed into not the way you think, but I don't mind if you set some people straight or try and give them an alternate view. So, hey, listen, if Jim likes listening to your message, you must be on to something, let's put it that way.

[B]

Look at his whole thing about the Jesuits and all that. I agree with him absolutely what they're doing. But even what's going on, I do look at, I Knew the Tammany Hall. I knew all that stuff a long time ago. I read a whole book about it. So it wasn't nothing new to me.

[A]

We need more people talking about it then.

[B]

Well, you know. Yeah, I think so too.

[A]

I think we need more. More of this. More discussion.

[C]

Well, look, my final word. My website, southern protestant.com. but if y' all want me to get into this war thing, all the death statistics about the Holocaust, you're gonna have to give me a reason to. Well, what was the point? No, I don't know. Of the Hollow hoax. I'd like to know. Because no one, no one's been able to explain.

[A]

No, no, no, no.

[D]

We're not Last Battle and to watch Hell Storm.

[A]

No, I.

[D]

We're not your critique. And on where he went wrong in that production.

[A]

Yeah, we're not. We're not going to talk. We don't. We have. We have supposed laws up here in Canada about that. I'm not talking about anything that may or may not be allowable and I'm not. I'm not going to be one to test any of that, so.

[D]

Well, there it is. See, it's not popular.

[A]

Well, no, it is.

[D]

That's why Drake has never watched.

[A]

It actually is popular because every single day there's a story about something happening to the Jewish community here. So it is a thing that.

[D]

Yeah, but Europa covers it differently.

[A]

All right, well, Drake, maybe It's not

[D]

the 1488 stuff that Drake has seen on YouTube.

[A]

Well, maybe Drake can watch that in his spare time, but critique on where

[D]

he went wrong in that Drake.

[A]

Drake, thanks for joining. I hope you enjoyed the show. And if you want to talk to Phil and Jim again, we can have an arrange another. Another session. They're usually here Wednesdays. You can come on anytime you want. You don't need an invitation. Just drop in and you can drop some truth if you want your truth, of course. And if you want to do your own thing where we talk about your video, we can do that too. Because we only usually only do an hour show and we have four voices. It's really hard to keep it to 60 minutes, if you know what I mean. It's a lot. But I really enjoyed it tonight and I hope you guys did too. Yeah.

[B]

Great show. I liked it too.

[A]

Thank you very much and thanks, Jim. Jim is on bit shoot. Just look up Jim Rizzoli. And Phil is on Bitchute. Just look up fake nukes. Phil and Southern Protestant OR Sorry, Southern. Israelite.com. that's Drake.

[C]

No, Southern Protestant.com.

[A]

southern Protestant.com. that's Drake's Channel. He's got a million books, and he's. He's. He said. He says stuff that I never heard of, and I guarantee most people have not. And that's why I wanted to have him on. So thanks a lot, guys.

[F]

Okay.

[A]

That was an excellent time. All right, guys. Thank you very much. Have a good night. Bye, everybody.

[C]

Sam,

[A]

Now you swear?