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Fallthrough
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A deep and nuanced conversational podcast focused on technology, software, and computing.
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Under Pressure
1w ago01:00:12Tap to summarizeOn this week's episode, Kris and Matthew have a topic: tension. Not the bad kind you learn to avoid, but the productive kind that, like a code smell, is worth stopping to examine. They discuss the challenges of APIs and stability, whether SDKs are actually necessary, and as always a little bit of life advice for our wonderful viewers/listeners.We've got supporter content, of course! This week that includes Kris's deep dive on why it's actually called soccer (and the perfect apple-versus-fruit comeback for every European), his love letter to Gerrit and patch-based review, Matthew on why the pull request description means jack and what Jujutsu gets right, Kris's saga of building his own podcast platform out of Supercast, Transistor, and Riverside, and the great "machines that build machines, or is that just CICD?" debate. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today!If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube: https://youtu.be/3y6D1Gp4TSM.No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show.Thanks for tuning in and happy listening!Table of Contents:Prologue (00:00:00)Chapter 1: Heat, the World Cup, and America Through European Eyes (00:00:52)Chapter 3: Fable Returns and the One Person Agent Operation System (00:05:35)Chapter 4: Issue Trackers Aren't Dead: Linear, plan.md, and Keeping Context (00:10:47)Chapter 7: Solutions Versus Tools and the Meta Repo Problem (00:14:40)Chapter 9: Bending to the Tool: Forks, Filesystems, and the git flow Confession (00:18:34)Chapter 10: Code Smells and the Oxide API Versioning Tension (00:31:11)Chapter 11: Stopping the World: Backward Compatibility and the Summer of Hell (00:38:08)Chapter 12: Do We Still Need SDKs? (00:48:44)Epilogue (00:57:36)Hosts Matthew Sanabria - Host Kris Brandow - Host Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagramTikTokChangelog ZulipGophers Slack (00:00) - Prologue (00:52) - Chapter 1: Heat, the World Cup, and America Through European Eyes (05:35) - Chapter 3: Fable Returns and the One Person Agent Operation System (10:47) - Chapter 4: Issue Trackers Aren't Dead: Linear, plan.md, and Keeping Context (14:40) - Chapter 7: Solutions Versus Tools and the Meta Repo Problem (18:34) - Chapter 9: Bending to the Tool: Forks, Filesystems, and the git flow Confession (31:11) - Chapter 10: Code Smells and the Oxide API Versioning Tension (38:08) - Chapter 11: Stopping the World: Backward Compatibility and the Summer of Hell (48:44) - Chapter 12: Do We Still Need SDKs? (57:36) - Epilogue
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The Spy Who Banned Me
2w ago00:27:16Tap to summarizeIt's Fallthrough time! In this episode, Kris, Matthew, and Steve get into the time Steve pointed Anthropic's Fable at a side project he hadn't touched since January and watched it shepherd 95 pull requests in three days, the US government export banning Fable and its sibling Mythos, the insanity of Mythos popping a national security agency's boxes in a matter of hours, and why a software engineer that runs 24/7 for anyone with an account is exactly the kind of thing governments get nervous about.We've got supporter content, of course! This week that includes whether your AI agents should file their bugs in your repo or on a private board where they can make as big a mess as they want, the model that forged itself a cookie to get around a testing problem and what it means for an AI to actually understand being a software developer, Steve's deliberately-out-of-context claim that millennials are the only people who know how computers work, Trump signing a quantum cryptography order while openly asking what the whole thing even is, Kris's year-long sales tax rabbit hole where nobody can agree where a person physically is, and the Diet Coke can math that says one exploding rocket is about one percent of an hour of making aluminum. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today!If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube: https://youtu.be/h6Ve7WKIQVc.No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show.Thanks for tuning in and happy listening!Table of Contents:Prologue (00:00:00)Chapter 1: Burning the Whole Allotment, 95 PRs in Three Days (00:01:56)Chapter 2: Beads vs Linear, Where Agents Keep Their Bugs [Extended] (00:07:24)Chapter 3: Is Fable Coming Back? Export Controls and the NSA Hack (00:07:24)Chapter 5: A Software Engineer in Every Pocket, Running 24/7 (00:12:57)Chapter 6: Anthropic Can't Explain Itself, Dario and the Death of Media Training (00:15:20)Chapter 13: People Are People, Contradictions and Closing the Loop (00:19:16)Epilogue (00:23:33)Hosts Matthew Sanabria - Host Kris Brandow - Host Steve Klabnik - Host Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagramTikTokChangelog ZulipGophers Slack (00:00) - Prologue (01:56) - Chapter 1: Burning the Whole Allotment, 95 PRs in Three Days (07:24) - Chapter 3: Is Fable Coming Back? Export Controls and the NSA Hack (12:57) - Chapter 5: A Software Engineer in Every Pocket, Running 24/7 (15:20) - Chapter 6: Anthropic Can't Explain Itself, Dario and the Death of Media Training (19:16) - Chapter 13: People Are People, Contradictions and Closing the Loop (23:33) - Epilogue
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Of Fables and Mythos
3w ago01:07:21Tap to summarizeAnother week, another Fallthrough! In this episode, Kris and Matthew get into the US government slapping export controls on Anthropic's Mythos and Fable models, the marketing machine that made them sound world-ending, and how much of the AI hype actually holds up.We've got supporter content, of course! This week that includes whether your phone is already an extension of your mind and the "Clean Talk" cleaning influencers who will happily tell you to mix two chemicals that quietly kill you, the Egyptologist on a date who proves a person is smart but people are dumb, why we throw you in jail for robbing a bank but only fine you for wrecking the economy, a no-holds-barred roast of Claude Code and the flickering bug that still will not die, and why AI in the creative fields is really just Photoshop with no shortcut to doing good work. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today!If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube: https://youtu.be/zzMFABZ0Rjs.No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show.Thanks for tuning in and happy listening!Table of Contents:Prologue (00:00:00)Chapter 1: Mythos and Fable, the Export Control, and Anthropic's Marketing Machine (00:02:18)Chapter 2: Freedom of Thought, Safety Gating, and Books in the Library (00:06:40)Chapter 6: Why You Can't Believe the AI Labs: Dogfooding, Lines of Code, and No Profit (00:11:11)Chapter 7: Nobody Knows Where the Ceiling Is, and the Coming Commodity Market (00:20:22)Chapter 8: Local Models, the Chocolate Shop AI Node, and Harness Over Model (00:22:27)Chapter 9: So Why Is Fable Actually Banned? Brain Drain, DOGE, and Jailbreaks (00:29:46)Chapter 10: It's Still All Hype, and the Government Did Anthropic's Marketing (00:37:37)Chapter 12: The Sentiment Shift: From Anthropic Darling to Team OpenAI (00:44:43)Chapter 13: The Future Is Harnesses, Not Models, and OpenAI's Better Bet (00:50:35)Chapter 14: Is Software Dead? Jobs, the Coming Shortage, and Don't Let Your Brain Atrophy (00:54:48)Chapter 15: AI in Creative Fields, Photoshop, and Why There's No Shortcut to Good Work [Extended] (01:05:39)Epilogue (01:05:39)Hosts Matthew Sanabria - Host Kris Brandow - Host Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagramTikTokChangelog ZulipGophers Slack (00:00) - Prologue (02:18) - Chapter 1: Mythos and Fable, the Export Control, and Anthropic's Marketing Machine (06:40) - Chapter 2: Freedom of Thought, Safety Gating, and Books in the Library (11:11) - Chapter 6: Why You Can't Believe the AI Labs: Dogfooding, Lines of Code, and No Profit (20:22) - Chapter 7: Nobody Knows Where the Ceiling Is, and the Coming Commodity Market (22:27) - Chapter 8: Local Models, the Chocolate Shop AI Node, and Harness Over Model (29:46) - Chapter 9: So Why Is Fable Actually Banned? Brain Drain, DOGE, and Jailbreaks (37:37) - Chapter 10: It's Still All Hype, and the Government Did Anthropic's Marketing (44:43) - Chapter 12: The Sentiment Shift: From Anthropic Darling to Team OpenAI (50:35) - Chapter 13: The Future Is Harnesses, Not Models, and OpenAI's Better Bet (54:48) - Chapter 14: Is Software Dead? Jobs, the Coming Shortage, and Don't Let Your Brain Atrophy (01:05:39) - Epilogue
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Shall We Play A Game?
4w ago00:48:26Tap to summarizeMatt and Kris welcome Fernando Duran, the creator of SAD Servers, the site that drops you onto a broken Linux box over SSH with a timer running and dares you to fix it. They go through what SAD Servers is, the spite-fueled interview story that started it all, how companies use it to hire, and the surprisingly lean infrastructure (plus the tiny Go "checker") that makes the whole thing work.We've got supporter content, of course! This week that includes why technical interviews are broken and the spite that turned one into a business, taking the number two spot on Hacker News without toppling over and the layers that keep the bad actors out, why three availability zones might just be expensive cargo-culting, the metrics that quietly lie to you (from Google-style error budgets to mean time to recovery versus mean time between failures), and the company that accidentally spent half a billion dollars on tokens. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today!If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube.No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show.Thanks for tuning in and happy listening!Table of Contents:Prologue (00:00:00)Chapter 1: What SAD Servers Is, Click a Button, Get a Broken Server (00:01:57)Chapter 2: Why He Built It, Troubleshooting, Learning, and Bad Interviews (00:03:33)Chapter 3: From Idea to AMI, How Scenarios Get Built (00:08:53)Chapter 4: Why Tech Interviews Are Broken [Extended] (00:13:58)Chapter 5: How Companies Use SAD Servers to Hire (00:23:27)Chapter 6: Kubernetes Playgrounds, SAD Pager, and Scenario Design (00:26:37)Chapter 7: The Architecture, Django, Ephemeral VMs, and the Consul Proxy (00:33:52)Chapter 8: Running Lean, Spot Instances, SQLite, and Surviving in Ohio (00:43:06)Chapter 9: Keeping the Bad Actors Out, Rate Limits and Layered Defense [Extended] (00:46:28)Chapter 10: The Checker, a Tiny Go Agent and the Problem of "Did You Win?" (00:55:49)Chapter 11: AI Evaluations, SRE Battle and the Agent Gold Rush (01:00:41)Chapter 12: Spicy Takes I, Availability Zones Are Overrated [Extended] (01:04:37)Chapter 13: Spicy Takes II, Error Budgets and the Google Cargo Cult [Extended] (01:15:34)Chapter 14: Spicy Takes III, MTBF vs MTTR, Bad Metrics, and Load Testing Theater [Extended] (01:26:07)Chapter 15: Spicy Takes IV, the Token Economy and Why Deleting Code Still Matters [Extended] (01:32:49)Epilogue (01:38:26)Hosts Matthew Sanabria - Host Kris Brandow - Host Fernando Duran - Guest Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagramTikTokChangelog ZulipGophers Slack (00:00) - Prologue (01:57) - Chapter 1: What SAD Servers Is, Click a Button, Get a Broken Server (03:33) - Chapter 2: Why He Built It, Troubleshooting, Learning, and Bad Interviews (08:53) - Chapter 3: From Idea to AMI, How Scenarios Get Built (13:58) - Chapter 4: Why Tech Interviews Are Broken [Extended] (23:27) - Chapter 5: How Companies Use SAD Servers to Hire (26:37) - Chapter 6: Kubernetes Playgrounds, SAD Pager, and Scenario Design (33:52) - Chapter 7: The Architecture, Django, Ephemeral VMs, and the Consul Proxy (43:06) - Chapter 8: Running Lean, Spot Instances, SQLite, and Surviving in Ohio (46:28) - Chapter 9: Keeping the Bad Actors Out, Rate Limits and Layered Defense [Extended] (55:49) - Chapter 10: The Checker, a Tiny Go Agent and the Problem of "Did You Win?" (01:00:41) - Chapter 11: AI Evaluations, SRE Battle and the Agent Gold Rush (01:04:37) - Chapter 12: Spicy Takes I, Availability Zones Are Overrated [Extended] (01:15:34) - Chapter 13: Spicy Takes II, Error Budgets and the Google Cargo Cult [Extended] (01:26:07) - Chapter 14: Spicy Takes III, MTBF vs MTTR, Bad Metrics, and Load Testing Theater [Extended] (01:32:49) - Chapter 15: Spicy Takes IV, the Token Economy and Why Deleting Code Still Matters [Extended] (01:38:26) - Epilogue
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Pull the (AI) Lever, Kronk!
Jun 601:28:14Tap to summarizeMatt and Kris welcome back Bill Kennedy who's been working on Kronk, AI tooling in Go. They go through what Kronk (and it's dependent library Yzma) is, the power of running models locally, and how they see coding agents and LLMs shaping the future of the industry.We've got supporter content, of course! This week that includes the message-caching trick that turns seconds into thirty milliseconds, why hybrid models quietly wreck the KV cache, Bill's "thirty billion knobs" explainer for dense versus mixture-of-experts models, why demo day is destroying engineering teams, and the stealth-startup math nobody says out loud. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today!If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube.No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show.Thanks for tuning in and happy listening!Table of Contents:Prologue (00:00:00)Chapter 1: Why Go for AI, and the Origin of Kronk (00:02:14)Chapter 2: What Kronk Is, an SDK to Kill the Model Server (00:08:56)Chapter 3: Running It Yourself: Hugging Face, GGUF, and Hardware (00:14:58)Chapter 8: Context, Attention, and the Honesty of Claude 4.8 (00:22:28)Chapter 9: A Coding Agent Is a Skill, Not a Magic Wand (00:27:22)Chapter 10: Semantics vs Mechanics (00:44:18)Chapter 11: Rebuilding From Scratch: Specs and the Machine That Builds the Machine (00:47:29)Chapter 14: Why AMP Wins: Pedigree and Economics (01:00:20)Chapter 15: How to Actually Drive a Model: Plinko, Rocky Balboa, and Attention (01:14:59)Epilogue (01:25:08)Hosts Matthew Sanabria - Host Kris Brandow - Host Bill Kennedy - Guest Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagramTikTokChangelog ZulipGophers Slack (00:00) - Prologue (02:14) - Chapter 1: Why Go for AI, and the Origin of Kronk (08:56) - Chapter 2: What Kronk Is, an SDK to Kill the Model Server (14:58) - Chapter 3: Running It Yourself: Hugging Face, GGUF, and Hardware (22:28) - Chapter 8: Context, Attention, and the Honesty of Claude 4.8 (27:22) - Chapter 9: A Coding Agent Is a Skill, Not a Magic Wand (44:18) - Chapter 10: Semantics vs Mechanics (47:29) - Chapter 11: Rebuilding From Scratch: Specs and the Machine That Builds the Machine (01:00:20) - Chapter 14: Why AMP Wins: Pedigree and Economics (01:14:59) - Chapter 15: How to Actually Drive a Model: Plinko, Rocky Balboa, and Attention (01:25:08) - Epilogue
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Dependencies All The Way Down
May 3001:01:16Tap to summarizeAnother week, another Fallthrough! In this episode, Kris and Matthew discuss a personal realization about what AI actually unlocks, their workflow philosophies, local models, a recent hot take from Mitchell Hashimoto, and a thought experiment that would break the NPM ecosystem overnight.Like the previous episode (a pseudo part 1), this episode returns to one question: are you moving in a direction, or just moving fast? Kris argues AI has lifted his coding domain ceiling entirely, while Matthew brings some nuance to the "just submit to the LLM, you're an architect now" take. The duo then turns outward: frontier lab CEOs claiming all white-collar work is automated while posting 300 open roles, the strong case for running local models (free, fast, and available right now), and a GitHub supply chain wake-up call triggered by a malicious VSCode plugin installed by an employee.We've got supporter content, of course! This week that includes Matthew's Shopify in-store pickup problem and whether building your own cash register on Stripe is actually feasible, Kris going deep on typography after Claude critiqued its own publication designs as screaming AI, the pre-fill versus decode speed gap and what it means for how you write prompts, how the US federal budget actually works day to day and why simple answers are the wrong frame, and Stripe's two-business-day payout model versus merchant of record, plus Rhode Island's ongoing war against Matthew's chocolate shop. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today!If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube.No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show.Thanks for tuning in and happy listening!Table of Contents:Prologue (00:00:00)Chapter 1: AI as a Capability Unlock (00:02:21)Chapter 2: The Chocolate Shop Problem, or: Building vs. Understanding [Extended] (00:05:18)Chapter 3: The Adam Jacob Take and Multitudes of AI Workflows (00:05:44)Chapter 4: Personal Software is the Thing Now (00:18:55)Chapter 5: Fear of Being Left Behind, Speed vs. Velocity (00:23:43)Chapter 6: The Fog of Knowledge, Typography, and AI-Generated Mediocrity [Extended] (00:30:11)Chapter 7: Tuning Your AI Tools, AGENTS.md, and the Out-of-Box Problem (00:30:29)Chapter 8: The LLM as Kernel: Understanding Agents from the Inside Out [Extended] (00:33:47)Chapter 10: Tech CEO Hype, Anthropic's Kool-Aid, and Self-Exemption (00:34:22)Chapter 11: Owning Your Commerce Stack: E-Commerce, Stripe, and Sales Tax Hell [Extended] (00:40:46)Chapter 12: Personal AI is the Future, Don't Sleep on Local Models (00:41:06)Chapter 13: Cerebras IPO, Oxide Rack Speculation (00:44:35)Chapter 14: GitHub Compromised via VSCode Plugin, Supply Chain Reckoning (00:47:05)Chapter 15: Open Source Sustainability, Joy vs. Product, and Pay-Per-Pull (00:54:15)Epilogue (01:00:06)Hosts Matthew Sanabria - Host Kris Brandow - Host Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagramTikTokChangelog ZulipGophers Slack (00:00) - Prologue (02:21) - Chapter 1: AI as a Capability Unlock (05:18) - Chapter 2: The Chocolate Shop Problem, or: Building vs. Understanding [Extended] (05:44) - Chapter 3: The Adam Jacob Take and Multitudes of AI Workflows (18:55) - Chapter 4: Personal Software is the Thing Now (23:43) - Chapter 5: Fear of Being Left Behind, Speed vs. Velocity (30:11) - Chapter 6: The Fog of Knowledge, Typography, and AI-Generated Mediocrity [Extended] (30:29) - Chapter 7: Tuning Your AI Tools, AGENTS.md, and the Out-of-Box Problem (33:47) - Chapter 8: The LLM as Kernel: Understanding Agents from the Inside Out [Extended] (34:22) - Chapter 10: Tech CEO Hype, Anthropic's Kool-Aid, and Self-Exemption (40:46) - Chapter 11: Owning Your Commerce Stack: E-Commerce, Stripe, and Sales Tax Hell [Extended] (41:06) - Chapter 12: Personal AI is the Future, Don't Sleep on Local Models (44:35) - Chapter 13: Cerebras IPO, Oxide Rack Speculation (47:05) - Chapter 14: GitHub Compromised via VSCode Plugin, Supply Chain Reckoning (54:15) - Chapter 15: Open Source Sustainability, Joy vs. Product, and Pay-Per-Pull (01:00:06) - Epilogue
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Terminal Velocity
May 2300:32:34Tap to summarizeHas AI eaten all of tech? Is 600 billion tokens too many use in a single month? On this week's episode Matt joins Kris to talk about some of the current news in the tech industry. From OpenClaw's maintainer burning through $1.3 million worth of tokens to why we need more epistemic markers, to the rather absurd $725 billion that big tech plans to spend on AI CapEx this year. And of course, there are layoffs coming as well.Support content? We've got a whole bunch of that! This week that includes a ZFS war story where a thousand-fold write amplification bug stalls every file write, the case for why LLMs hand you mediocre output by default, today's OAuth and GitHub security incidents traced back to a standards fight twenty years ago, a spicy take on who actually holds power inside big tech, and Matthew hand-writing an HTTP server in Rust just to fight off skill atrophy. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today!If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube.No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show.Thanks for tuning in and happy listening!Table of Contents:Prologue (00:00:00)Chapter 1: AI Has Eaten All of Tech (00:01:11)Chapter 2: Building the Machine That Builds Your Machine (00:06:30)Chapter 3: You Still Have to Understand the Layer Below [Extended] (00:14:56)Chapter 4: Say the Quiet Part: Put a Number on Your Predictions (00:15:07)Chapter 5: LLMs Give You Mediocre by Default [Extended] (00:17:53)Chapter 6: Speed Is Not Velocity (00:18:21)Chapter 7: OAuth, GitHub, and the Bill for Skipped Homework [Extended] (00:25:40)Chapter 9: $725 Billion in CapEx and a Wave of Layoffs (00:26:26)Chapter 10: Who Actually Has the Power [Extended] (00:30:40)Epilogue (00:31:45)Hosts Matthew Sanabria - Host Kris Brandow - Host Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagramChangelog ZulipGophers Slack (00:00) - Prologue (01:11) - Chapter 1: AI Has Eaten All of Tech (06:30) - Chapter 2: Building the Machine That Builds Your Machine (14:56) - Chapter 3: You Still Have to Understand the Layer Below [Extended] (15:07) - Chapter 4: Say the Quiet Part: Put a Number on Your Predictions (17:53) - Chapter 5: LLMs Give You Mediocre by Default [Extended] (18:21) - Chapter 6: Speed Is Not Velocity (25:40) - Chapter 7: OAuth, GitHub, and the Bill for Skipped Homework [Extended] (26:26) - Chapter 9: $725 Billion in CapEx and a Wave of Layoffs (30:40) - Chapter 10: Who Actually Has the Power [Extended] (31:45) - Epilogue
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He Who Controls the Source
May 1601:25:48Tap to summarizeThis week we've got Kris and Jamie! They open with the Shai-Hulud worm chewing through the npm supply chain and close on the messy economics of who actually pays for open source labor. And there's plenty of great stuff in between: GitHub's everything-platform creep, the case for LLMs as a way out of dependency hell, and the forge alternatives finally maturing into real options.We've got supporter content, of course! This week that includes an expansion on Kris's "pull requests as original sin" theory, the everything-platform rant that compares GitHub to Meta Business Suite, a monologue on money, knowledge gaps, and LLMs as a way out of open source debt. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today!If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube.No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show.Thanks for tuning in and happy listening!Table of Contents:Prologue (00:00:00)Chapter 2: The Shai-Hulud Worm and the GitHub Actions Attack Surface (00:00:59)Chapter 3: Pull Requests as Original Sin [Extended] (00:19:41)Chapter 4: GitHub Enterprise Cloud and the Forge Alternatives (00:19:59)Chapter 5: The Everything Platform Problem [Extended] (00:28:17)Chapter 6: GitLab Counterpoint, Kubernetes, Feature Flags, and Friction (00:37:58)Chapter 7: Walled Gardens and the Business Model of Open Source [Extended] (00:43:06)Chapter 8: AI Safety, Napalm Grandmas, and Agentic PRs (00:43:24)Chapter 9: Kris's Theory: Money, Knowledge Gaps, and LLMs as a Way Out of Open Source Debt [Extended] (00:46:37)Chapter 10: Jamie Pushes Back: Forks, Vulnerabilities, and OAPI CodeGen Stalled on OpenAPI 3.1 (00:46:58)Chapter 11: Making Open Source a Surfaceable Cost (00:54:29)Chapter 12: The Open Source Resistance (01:07:35)Chapter 13: Capital One, Director Sign-off, and the Lawyer's Perspective [Extended] (01:16:52)Chapter 16: FSNotify Cleanup and the Composer Token Leak (01:17:05)Epilogue (01:23:46)Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Jamie Tanna - Host Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagramChangelog ZulipGophers Slack (00:00) - Prologue (00:59) - Chapter 2: The Shai-Hulud Worm and the GitHub Actions Attack Surface (19:41) - Chapter 3: Pull Requests as Original Sin [Extended] (19:59) - Chapter 4: GitHub Enterprise Cloud and the Forge Alternatives (28:17) - Chapter 5: The Everything Platform Problem [Extended] (37:58) - Chapter 6: GitLab Counterpoint, Kubernetes, Feature Flags, and Friction (43:06) - Chapter 7: Walled Gardens and the Business Model of Open Source [Extended] (43:24) - Chapter 8: AI Safety, Napalm Grandmas, and Agentic PRs (46:37) - Chapter 9: Kris's Theory: Money, Knowledge Gaps, and LLMs as a Way Out of Open Source Debt [Extended] (46:58) - Chapter 10: Jamie Pushes Back: Forks, Vulnerabilities, and OAPI CodeGen Stalled on OpenAPI 3.1 (54:29) - Chapter 11: Making Open Source a Surfaceable Cost (01:07:35) - Chapter 12: The Open Source Resistance (01:16:52) - Chapter 13: Capital One, Director Sign-off, and the Lawyer's Perspective [Extended] (01:17:05) - Chapter 16: FSNotify Cleanup and the Composer Token Leak (01:23:46) - Epilogue
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Forging Ahead
May 901:26:48Tap to summarizeSteve is back to talk JJ (Jujutsu version control) and the related product, ChangeSet, that he works on at East River Source Control. Kris and Steve trace why the GitHub monoculture is finally cracking, what JJ does that Git can't, and Steve's hypothesis that AI agents are pushing companies toward monorepos. Then the pair discuss the Opus 4.7 regression debate, the shift from "always use the frontier model" to using LLMs as one tool among many, and a quick discussion of the Tim Cook to John Ternus handoff at Apple.We've got supporter content, of course! This week that includes Steve's broader thesis that it's easier to scale a big tool down than scale a small one up, why GitHub's pull request model warped how people use Git, auto-rebase and conflicts as first-class citizens in JJ, AI subsidies, and a Bun being ported to Rust. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today!If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube.Thanks for tuning in and happy listening!Show Notes:JJTable of Contents:Prologue (00:00:00)Chapter 1: Episode 70, New Branding, and Catching Up (00:01:14)Chapter 2: What is JJ (Jujutsu) and Why It Exists (00:03:43)Chapter 3: Change IDs, Tangled, and the Federated Forge Wave (00:08:59)Chapter 4: Healthy Diversity After the GitHub Monoculture (00:14:33)Chapter 5: Scaling Big Tools Down: Bazel, Buck, Kubernetes, Symfony [Extended] (00:18:03)Chapter 6: JJ Is Simpler AND More Powerful: No Index, No Stash (00:18:10)Chapter 7: The JJ Workflow: Snapshots, Watchman, and JJ Undo (00:26:06)Chapter 8: GitHub Warped Git: Why Patches and Gerrit Are Better [Extended] (00:32:14)Chapter 9: Auto-Rebase and Conflicts as First-Class Citizens [Extended] (00:32:14)Chapter 10: Getting Started with JJ: Tutorials and Workflows (00:32:29)Chapter 11: East River Source Control and ChangeSet: A Forge for Mono-Repo Scale (00:42:28)Chapter 12: Why AI Forces Companies into Monorepo Scaling Sooner (00:50:01)Chapter 13: AI Subsidies and the Scaling Wall [Extended] (00:54:55)Chapter 14: The Opus 4.7 Regression Debate, Goodhart's Law, and Custom Styles (00:55:24)Chapter 15: LLMs as Tools, Not Solutions: Local Models, Gemini, and Custom Pipelines (01:04:49)Chapter 16: Bun Rewriting in Rust: A Branch That Wasn't Supposed to Be News [Extended] (01:15:48)Chapter 17: The Apple CEO Transition: Tim Cook to John Ternus (01:16:08)Epilogue (01:24:55)Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Steve Klabnik - Host Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagramChangelog ZulipGophers Slack (00:00) - Prologue (01:14) - Chapter 1: Episode 70, New Branding, and Catching Up (03:43) - Chapter 2: What is JJ (Jujutsu) and Why It Exists (08:59) - Chapter 3: Change IDs, Tangled, and the Federated Forge Wave (14:33) - Chapter 4: Healthy Diversity After the GitHub Monoculture (18:03) - Chapter 5: Scaling Big Tools Down: Bazel, Buck, Kubernetes, Symfony [Extended] (18:10) - Chapter 6: JJ Is Simpler AND More Powerful: No Index, No Stash (26:06) - Chapter 7: The JJ Workflow: Snapshots, Watchman, and JJ Undo (32:14) - Chapter 8: GitHub Warped Git: Why Patches and Gerrit Are Better [Extended] (32:29) - Chapter 10: Getting Started with JJ: Tutorials and Workflows (42:28) - Chapter 11: East River Source Control and ChangeSet: A Forge for Mono-Repo Scale (50:01) - Chapter 12: Why AI Forces Companies into Monorepo Scaling Sooner (54:55) - Chapter 13: AI Subsidies and the Scaling Wall [Extended] (55:24) - Chapter 14: The Opus 4.7 Regression Debate, Goodhart's Law, and Custom Styles (01:04:49) - Chapter 15: LLMs as Tools, Not Solutions: Local Models, Gemini, and Custom Pipelines (01:15:48) - Chapter 16: Bun Rewriting in Rust: A Branch That Wasn't Supposed to Be News [Extended] (01:16:08) - Chapter 17: The Apple CEO Transition: Tim Cook to John Ternus (01:24:55) - Epilogue
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Regression to the Mean
May 201:11:37Tap to summarizeKris and Ian dig into the slow collapse of GitHub, starting with Ghostty off the platform after years of reliability problems. From there they trace Gary Bernhardt's old observation that we took a decentralized source control system and immediately put it behind a single point of failure, then widen the lens into AI as the engine of enshittification. The episode lands on a more optimistic note: maybe AI is also the tool that lets individuals rebuild the apps they used to have to buy.We've got supporter content, of course! This week that includes Kris's "AI was trained on the median of human code" argument, the institutional-memory thesis for why AI can't just replace people, a tour of the local-AI hardware landscape with Zig and llama.cpp, Ian's relatable "what is Cursor? what is Warp?" rant, a policy pitch on share-flipper voting rules, and a deep dive on typography as an anti-AI signal. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today!If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube.No episode of Break this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show.Thanks for tuning in and happy listening!Table of Contents:Prologue (00:00:00)Chapter 1: GitHub Is Falling Over: Ghostty Leaves and the Merge Bug (00:01:46)Chapter 2: Centralizing the Decentralized: Git, Forges, and the Linux Kernel Workflow (00:08:04)Chapter 3: Self-Hosting vs. The Cloud Tax (00:16:23)Chapter 6: AI as the Engine of Enshittification (00:32:02)Chapter 9: Epistemic Enshittification: Hedges, Hype, and Sci-Fi Brain (00:37:10)Chapter 10: Self-Checkout, Junior Devs, and Broken Hiring (00:46:52)Chapter 12: Fallthrough Rebrand and the Claude Design Experiment (00:54:16)Chapter 13: Typography as Anti-AI Signal: Buying Real Typefaces [Extended] (01:04:33)Chapter 14: Bleeps, Shorts, and Producing With AI (01:04:36)Chapter 15: AI as the De-Enshittification Tool (01:08:08)Epilogue (01:10:22)Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Ian Wester-Lopshire - Host Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram (00:00) - Prologue (01:46) - Chapter 1: GitHub Is Falling Over: Ghostty Leaves and the Merge Bug (08:04) - Chapter 2: Centralizing the Decentralized: Git, Forges, and the Linux Kernel Workflow (16:23) - Chapter 3: Self-Hosting vs. The Cloud Tax (32:02) - Chapter 4: AI Code Quality and the Mediocre Mean [Extended] (37:10) - Chapter 9: Epistemic Enshittification: Hedges, Hype, and Sci-Fi Brain (46:52) - Chapter 10: Self-Checkout, Junior Devs, and Broken Hiring (54:16) - Chapter 12: Fallthrough Rebrand and the Claude Design Experiment (01:04:33) - Chapter 13: Typography as Anti-AI Signal: Buying Real Typefaces [Extended] (01:04:36) - Chapter 14: Bleeps, Shorts, and Producing With AI (01:08:08) - Chapter 15: AI as the De-Enshittification Tool (01:10:22) - Epilogue
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