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ESPN | November 7, 2025

Episode: Best Week 10 Starts to WIN Your Matchup
Hosts: Field Yates, Daniel Dopp, Mike Clay
Theme: Week 10 Preview, Sit/Start Strategy, Injury Updates, and Fantasy Start Recommendations

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Episode Overview

The Fantasy Focus crew – Field Yates, Daniel Dopp, and Mike Clay – bring an engaging, humor-filled deep dive into Week 10 of the fantasy football season. After a quick roast of a Thursday Night Football dud, the trio discusses standout fantasy starts, injury implications, sit/start dilemmas (especially at tight end), and their favorite picks to help listeners win their matchups. Mike Clay debuts three fantasy haikus, spawning a show-wide vote and banter about the poetry of fantasy heartbreak.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Thursday Night Football Recap: Raiders 7, Broncos 10

Timestamp: 02:01–06:47

• Game Quality: Universal dissatisfaction: "That game just sucked." – Daniel Dopp (00:14)
• Brock Bowers Disappointment: Only 1 catch for 31 yards.
  • "There is no excuse that validates Brock Bowers having one catch for 31 yards and then one rush for negative four yards." – Field Yates (03:59)
• Ashton Genti & Defenses: Genti was "fine" for fantasy (15.3 points), Broncos D outscored all skill players with 16 points.
• Writer's Room Humor: Running gag about wanting both teams to be docked a loss for “making us watch that hot garbage.” (07:02)

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2. Week 10 Tight End Sit/Start Lightning Round

Timestamp: 12:19–18:47

Mike Clay presents five tight end start/sit scenarios; Field and Daniel weigh in:

• Kyle Pitts – Emerging as a lineup lock (12:29).
• Luke Musgrave – "Sit." (14:25) Eagles have shut down TEs.
• Dalton Kincaid – Borderline start but heavy TD-dependency; “roll with what you’ve been doing.” (15:49)
• Harold Fannin Jr. – Only start if healthy, with caution (16:45). “Borderline… Offense is the problem.” – Mike Clay (17:08)
• Mark Andrews – Tempting matchup vs. Vikings, but only three targets last week; consensus: start but trust at your own risk (18:06–18:46).

Notable Quote:
“I would say Musgraves defined speculative add, but this week for sure [is a] sit.” – Mike Clay (15:19)

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3. Storylines for Week 10

Timestamp: 20:10–44:32

Patriots Backfield – Ramondre Stevenson Injury

• Stevenson (toe) misses practice; Travion Henderson enters top-20 RB consideration.
  • “If he's out... Henderson is somewhere around the top 16 to 20 running back.” – Field Yates (21:35)
  • “I have him at 21. I think he's right on that fringe.” – Mike Clay (22:08)

Stefon Diggs — Matchup Bonanza

• Diggs faces Tampa Bay, which allows fantasy WR1s to thrive, but his snap share remains limited.
  • “He's a must start to me this week... But how high is too high?” – Daniel Dopp (23:02)
  • “Big game possible, 4 for 44 also in the cards.” – Field Yates (24:30)

Rashad White Outlook

• With Bucky Irving unlikely to go, White’s workload is secure; Patriots D is elite vs. run, making him volume-dependent RB2.
  • “He probably needs a touchdown to cash in as a strong RB2.” – Field Yates (26:51)

RB2 Debate: Quinshawn Judkins vs. Breece Hall

• Both face strong defenses; Judkins is favored due to increased opportunity vs. depleted Jets D.
• “Jets Browns is Breece Hall versus Quinshawn Judkins because I don’t think the game is going to be very good.” – Daniel Dopp (28:07)

Garrett Wilson’s Return

• Browns are tough on WRs. Wilson is a risky but startable top-20 option.
  • “I think Garrett Wilson is still a top 20 wide receiver.” – Field Yates (32:53)

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4. Mike Clay Haikus Segment

Timestamp: 09:17–12:18, 60:56–61:13 (results)

Mike, “dressed like Scat Daddy,” reads three fantasy-themed haikus as a show punishment, each capturing fantasy heartbreak or frustration:

• “I set my lineup, stack team ready to destroy. Lost again, despair.” (Despair)
• “I set my lineup. Projections say I will win. I lost. Clay is trash.” (Trash)
• “Need 10 points to win. 57 yard touchdown flag on the play.” (Pain)

Chat Favorite:

• “Pain” wins with 46% of votes.
  • “Need 10 points to win. 57 yard touchdown flag on the play.” (61:07)

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5. Start/Sit and Outlooks for Key Players

Timestamp: 44:32–48:00

Seahawks RBs — Walker vs. Charbonnet

• Post-bye, Ken Walker regains lead; recommended as low RB2; Charbonnet is a bench.

DK Metcalf Analysis

• Shadowed/low-target games remain an issue; boom/bust WR3 for Week 10.
• “Very dependent on low volume and hoping for that touchdown.” – Mike Clay (37:42)

Injury Roundup (Summary)

• Saquon Barkley and DeAndre Swift good to go.
• Chris Godwin, Brian Thomas, Terry McLaurin looking unlikely; monitor final reports.
• Garrett Wilson on track to play after missing time.

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6. Starts of the Week (Hosts’ Picks)

Timestamp: 46:56–53:10

Mike Clay’s Picks (with helmet audible theme):

• QB: Jordan Love (“Jordan Love, Jordan Love, Jordan Love…”)
• RB: Trayvon Henderson (“Trayvon gets the Buccaneers, coming off 87-yard game…”)
• WR: DJ Moore (“DJ Moore against the Giants…”)
• TE: Cade Otten (“Last three games: 6.7 targets per game, four plus catches in all three…”)

Field Yates’ Picks:

• QB: Jared Goff
• RB: Kamani Vidal
• WR: Jameson Williams
• TE: Colston Loveland

Daniel Dopp’s Picks:

• QB: Jacoby Brissett
• RB: Trayvon Henderson
• WR: Jameson Williams
• TE: Colston Loveland

Fun Interlude: Starts of the Week Competition

• Ongoing host contest—Field has most wins but fewest total points. Points vs. luck (“This is fantasy football.” – Mike Clay, 53:56).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the TNF disaster:
  “The NFL announced... both the Raiders and the Broncos will officially receive a loss for making us watch that hot garbage of a game last night.” – Listener Mailbag (06:47)

• Mike’s Haikus:
  “Need 10 points to win. 57 yard touchdown flag on the play.”
  (Chat's favorite haiku, 61:07)

• On injury fill-ins:
  “Even if he's not the player that we hoped he would be... you might get a pocket of two, maybe three, but probably two games of him being somewhere in that RB2 range.” – Field Yates on Travion Henderson (21:42)

• Sit or Start mantras:
  “I would keep rolling with what I have been doing also. It’s not like the Bills are a bad offense.” – Daniel Dopp on Dalton Kincaid (15:54)

• Authentic banter mid-show:
  “I just wanted to say I had the privilege of picking up Mike's tab yesterday.” – Daniel Dopp (09:11)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------|-------------| | TNF Recap (Raiders/Broncos) | 02:01–06:47 | | Haikus Segment & Voting | 09:17–12:18; 60:56–61:13 | | Sit/Start: Tight End Edition | 12:19–18:47 | | Patriots RB & Stefon Diggs Outlook | 20:10–24:37 | | Rashad White & Bucs Receiving Corps | 25:23–28:02 | | RB Comparison: Judkins vs. Hall | 28:07–30:22 | | Browns/Jets WR Outlooks | 31:34–34:22 | | Injury Reports (major skill positions) | 39:45–44:32 | | Starts of the Week Roundtable | 46:56–53:10 | | Mailbag & Chat Questions | 56:48–60:46 |

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Tone and Style

Friendly, unfiltered, and quick-witted—as always, the hosts balance actionable fantasy advice with jokes, banter, and participation from their producer team and live chat audience. The signature ESPN chemistry and competition among the hosts (“Starts of the Week”) shines through, making even the technical sections engaging for all fantasy managers.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode is rich with strategic advice for Week 10, a healthy dose of injury monitoring, humorous asides, and listener engagement. Key insights center on navigating byes, optimizing tight end choices, capitalizing on juicy WR matchups, and staying nimble as the playoff push nears. The spirit of fun, rivalry, and community infuses every segment—perfect for both die-hard and casual fantasy managers prepping for crunch time.

Transcript

[Daniel Dopp]

Fantasy. You're in the whole 6, 010.

[Mike Clay]

Focus. Fantasy.

[Daniel Dopp]

Fantasy.

[Field Yates]

Focus.

[Daniel Dopp]

What's good friends? Welcome into Fantasy Focus Football, presented by Little Caesars alongside Mike clay and field G8. My name is Daniel Dopp, here to bring you part two of our week ten preview. We've got a lot on today's show. We're going to do a Thursday night football recap. We're going to dive into this preview. We got shouts of the week. You know what, Field, I'm glad you said something, something about it because I think I can speak on all of our behalfs 99.5% of the time. This is just an unbelievable job. I love what we get to do. I love being able to work with you guys and Mike, even Mike every once in a while. On Thursday night, though, I wish I was an accountant that could just shut off the TV and go to bed because that game just sucked.

[Mike Clay]

You guys don't get football, okay? That's a battle.

[Field Yates]

Yeah, you like.

[Mike Clay]

You just don't get the X's and O's. Okay? Football's not about entertainment, okay?

[Daniel Dopp]

Oh, okay. Got it.

[Mike Clay]

Getting down to it and watching those matchups in the trenches are watching them. The good blocks, the big guys, the blockling. That's what football's about. Okay, what year is it? It's a 19. I'll tell you what, actually, if you 1925.

[Daniel Dopp]

Hunting is your favorite style of football. You had a great game last night. All right.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, A.J.

[Field Yates]

Cole was awesome.

[Daniel Dopp]

Other side was bad.

[Mike Clay]

That's a good question. I wonder, have we ever seen such a discrepancy in hunting? No, that's what we were watching last night, though.

[Field Yates]

Seriously, those guys with a six round pick this year.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, and he picked it up in the second half. But the first half there was some pun. I was like, that's what I would do if I was punting in the NFL.

[Daniel Dopp]

That's what it would look like.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, we'll get into it in just a moment. Really quickly, I got to pay off the rest of the top of the show. Our buddy Eric Moody is in chat. Make sure you go hang out with Eric Moody. We're going to have some fun stuff in our YouTube chat. A little bit later in the show, we got some questions we're going to give to you guys. Also, shout out to our friends over at trophy smack trophysmac.com use the promo code focus10 for 10% off your order over there. And I say now we dive into what was Thursday night Football this Will be quick.

[Field Yates]

And we're over.

[Daniel Dopp]

Raiders 7, Broncos 10. I hate to say I told you so, guys, but Troy Franklin was the only wide receiver of note for the Denver Broncos.

[Mike Clay]

Unbelievable.

[Daniel Dopp]

Can you. I mean, honestly, so little happened that. It feels like there are very few takeaways from this one field. Do you just want to lead off with what your first was?

[Field Yates]

No, let's. Let's talk about the takeaway that matters the most to all of us. The heck happened to Brock Bowers?

[Daniel Dopp]

Crazy.

[Mike Clay]

That was.

[Field Yates]

There is no. Like I was thinking about on the way in. Like, what is the justification? What's the excuse? You can rely upon if you are Chip Kelly or Pete Carroll right now and Brock Bowers.

[Mike Clay]

Stop.

[Daniel Dopp]

Nah, that's all.

[Field Yates]

I don't care if it's the 85 bears.

[Mike Clay]

I agree with you. I'm saying that's what your excuses.

[Field Yates]

He had one catch for 31 yards. He had three targets. I honestly, I have to give myself some credit. Earlier this week, after Jacoby Myers got traded, I tweeted that Brock bowers might average 31 targets per game.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yep.

[Field Yates]

I have to admit now that I was actually referring to yards. 31 yards a game. Are you kidding me? One frigging catch.

[Daniel Dopp]

Well, Brock Bowers plus side is over the last two games, he's averaging 22 and a half fantasy points per game.

[Field Yates]

And that's accurate. Oh my God. But I mean just, it's. It sucks because there were. I have a team. I have Brock Bowers on three teams. Two of them managed to survive.

[Daniel Dopp]

Nice.

[Field Yates]

The absence or the relative absence of Brock Bowers prior to last week. One of them is just an absolute dud. It just sucks. I hate watching that team. But I kind of felt like, hey, maybe I can be the upset guy for the rest of the way in that league. And the other two. I'll be okay. No, just flat no. Like last night, like, what a terrible way to start the week. And by the way, it's not like there's anything you can do about it, right? Like, my options to replace Brock Bauer sucked for the five weeks he was out. But yeah, that just. All of it sucked. All of it was terrible.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, but here's the thing. You have so many mouths to feed, right? Like two young receivers, they finally got them going. Deontay Thornton more mad. And Jack Bess must have had huge.

[Daniel Dopp]

Must have had big games.

[Mike Clay]

They must have gone or they barely saw the ball.

[Field Yates]

It just sucks. It just sucks. I don't care what the excuses are. There is no excuse that validates. Brock Bowers having one catch for 31 yards and then one rush for negative four yards. Ashton Genti was fine. He was totally 15 plus fantasy points. I think it was for Genti or 15 on the nose. He found the end zone. He played a ton. He got five targets. He had 20, 19 carries. Excuse me. You know, there was actually some meat left on the bone. He dropped two of his five targets, including one that led to an interception. Genti was fine. Even like. Yeah. Troy Franklin, great. Cortland Sutton has kind of become a guy that you've learned to not expect every week to be a boom Bonix.

[Daniel Dopp]

Hold on. This was supposed to be a secondary that Bonix was supposed to take advantage of.

[Field Yates]

I don't know, dude. It just all sucked. My brain is foggy cracks.

[Mike Clay]

Last year Knicks did not have a good game. Now Troy Franklin is out targeted corland sutton 73 to 69 so far this season, which is unbelievable. I will say this about Bo Nicks. Last night was rough. Maybe you excuse it to Thursday night divisional game or just a bad game, but look, he had 18 plus fantasy points and three straight for this one. 17 plus 60% of his games this season. So he'll be okay as a, as a fringe QB one. But we're, you know, Evan Ingram, Laskas, drop him. RJ Harvey, you know, obviously we knew the regression was coming.

[Field Yates]

Clock, truck, midnight.

[Mike Clay]

Yes, exactly right. J.K. dobbins, still a very good runner. You meant. You said this a bunch of times in our group chat last night.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yes, you did.

[Mike Clay]

He's such a solid runner, which he is. One catch for seven yards, still not.

[Field Yates]

Doing it in passing. Point four fantasy points.

[Mike Clay]

And on the other side, again, you predicted this as well. Tyler Lockett, that was their pass. The guy could not get on the field for the Titans. I know. And he's their guy and he's their number one receiver for the Raider. And how are you going to. How is that your game plan to win in the end? I don't.

[Daniel Dopp]

Honestly.

[Mike Clay]

I love to lock it. Obviously a fantasy legend there for a while, but that's not a good plan of attack in 2025.

[Daniel Dopp]

I think that the league should find both Pete Carroll and Geno Smith for not targeting Brock Bowers more in this game. Anytime Michael Mayer or Tyler Lockett has more opportunities than Brock Bowers, I can.

[Field Yates]

Sort of get on board. Michael Mayer playing a real role like he was the 37th pick in the draft. He's a good player. But Brock Bowers, I mean there's. There should be plenty of room for both of them to eat. I got to imagine the Broncos defense was perhaps the highest scoring. Oh no. Ashton Genti was slightly higher scoring than the Broncos defense, but not by much. 15.3 for Genti, 15. 15.0 for Troy Franklin. Just a disaster. What did the Broncos defense finish with last night? Let me find this out.

[Mike Clay]

They had a lot of sacks, right? Because that's all they do.

[Field Yates]

Like 18 more sacks than any other team in the entire NFL last season.

[Daniel Dopp]

Are how many points really quickly did you say that Ashton Genty had?

[Field Yates]

15.3. So what did the Broncos defense do last?

[Daniel Dopp]

Broncos defense had 16. Fantasy.

[Field Yates]

That's right. Always good when the defense is the highest scoring player of the week in the entire game. Let's move on from this.

[Daniel Dopp]

Like, oh, we got a question. Hold on. Because I think we're not the only ones that feel this way. Our chat also, I think feels the same way that we do. We have a mailbag from Scott McClory. The NFL announced this morning that both the Raiders and the Broncos will officially receive a loss for making us watch that hot garbage of a game last night.

[Field Yates]

From your lips to God's ears. And just an announcement, by the way. The Broncos have the best record in the NFL.

[Mike Clay]

There are no other team, not after watching that game.

[Daniel Dopp]

They can get there.

[Field Yates]

The Patriots can get there this weekend. I think one more team can get there this week.

[Mike Clay]

Patriots were the Patriots, Broncos and one other team at the same winning percentage going into last week. Who's the Colts. This is a Colts.

[Field Yates]

The Patriots and the Colts can get there by Sunday, mid afternoon. Yeah, the Colts play the early game obviously on Sunday morning. But the Denver Broncos for 72 hours are guaranteed to be the only team.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, dude. And by the way, just as we predicted, Broncos.

[Daniel Dopp]

Incredible. That's what I was just going to say. Broncos, Colts, Patriots in the as three.

[Mike Clay]

Teams in the league by win percentage.

[Field Yates]

Broncos play the Chiefs next week. That will be a very interesting test for them. Their defense is the best in the NFL. I don't think it's a debate, but that offense leaves a lot to be desired. I think Sean Payton sometimes get gets in his own head. Like last night there was a third and one play where it was like the entire drive they'd run in the football, it was like J.K. dobbins for six, J.K. dobbins for four, J.K. dobbkins for seven. Third and one. Let's throw the ball behind the line of scrimmage to Cortland Sutton, who's then going to Attempt to pass.

[Mike Clay]

Yes.

[Field Yates]

But because nobody was open, he had to run and he got like negative 3 yards.

[Daniel Dopp]

It was such a weird looking play.

[Field Yates]

Weird, weird, weird game.

[Daniel Dopp]

Not great.

[Field Yates]

Anyhow, move on.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, I want to say one thing real quickly before we get to our starts of the week. Yesterday at lunch field, I went to lunch with our friend Mike Clay. Him and I were talking, talking about the show, going through a bunch of stuff, and as we get up to pay, Mike conveniently taps his back pocket and he goes, oh, no, Daniel. And I'm like, what? And he's like, oh, I don't have my wallet with me. Can you pay for my lunch, please? And he got the most expensive thing at the cash.

[Field Yates]

Yesterday's steak or something.

[Mike Clay]

Big, big wrap. What I got.

[Daniel Dopp]

He had a huge burrito wrap, but it wasn't a regular burrito wrap. He did. He went to the sushi Rol and had him fill the burrito with sushi. It was a $74 wrap. I had to pay for Mike's food yesterday. Has he ever done that to you?

[Field Yates]

He has, like once a week.

[Mike Clay]

This is a plan. I did this on purpose.

[Field Yates]

Oh, okay. What about Apple Pay? You don't have that on your phone?

[Daniel Dopp]

He didn't have his phone with him either. He didn't have his phone or his wallet.

[Mike Clay]

I didn't even think of that. I usually just go with the hard credit card because I'm an old person, but. Yeah, no. Thanks for lunch, by the way.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah, I just wanted to say I had the privilege of picking up Mike's tab yesterday.

[Mike Clay]

It was a delicious burrito, so thank you.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, well, as a return, I would like some haikus as payment. Mike Clay. We're going to do some star of the week here. Mike Clay has got three haikus that he has brought to the table.

[Field Yates]

You brought three to the table?

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, hold on.

[Field Yates]

Do you own all of these things you're wearing right now?

[Mike Clay]

We're getting into Daniels.

[Field Yates]

This meaning what?

[Mike Clay]

Yes. What?

[Field Yates]

Oh, this scarf.

[Mike Clay]

I'm gonna tell my poems. I'm gonna read my poems.

[Daniel Dopp]

I'm gonna tell my poems.

[Field Yates]

Read my poems. Let me get a photo of this. Just.

[Daniel Dopp]

Let's do it.

[Mike Clay]

All right, so this is what we're gonna do. I'm gonna read. I wrote three because much like you, I can't. When you did your stand up comedy, I can't follow the rules exactly. I wrote three of them. They just came to me because this is just what I do. I mean, look at me.

[Daniel Dopp]

I need to let people the people at home. In case you're not watching on YouTube chat. Mike's got a scarf on. He's got some glasses on. You've got a hat. A real cool, like, Scat Daddy hat. Yeah, daddy.

[Field Yates]

Yeah, Scat Daddy has it.

[Daniel Dopp]

The real thing isn't like Jason Mraz, like a. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean?

[Field Yates]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

I don't know. I called him that.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah.

[Field Yates]

I mean, it's probably right. I'm not very.

[Daniel Dopp]

If you're.

[Mike Clay]

If you're going to. If you're into a reading, you have to address the part.

[Daniel Dopp]

Absolutely, absolutely.

[Mike Clay]

So I wrote three. And what we're going to do is I'll give you a name for them at the end and then we'll post them on, you know, on the chat. Let the chat vote on the best one.

[Daniel Dopp]

Okay.

[Mike Clay]

Okay.

[Field Yates]

Love that.

[Mike Clay]

Here you go. Ready?

[Daniel Dopp]

First one.

[Mike Clay]

First one. I set my lineup stack team ready to destroy. Lost again. Despair. That one's called despair. Well done.

[Daniel Dopp]

I like that.

[Mike Clay]

One. Next one. I set my lineup. Projections say I will win. I lost. Clay is trash.

[Daniel Dopp]

I like that.

[Mike Clay]

I like that as well. That's a good one.

[Daniel Dopp]

That's a good one.

[Mike Clay]

All right, Last 1. Need 10 points to win. 57 yard touchdown flag on the play.

[Daniel Dopp]

Mike, this is.

[Field Yates]

You're a good poet, Mike. So we're going to start calling Mike Shel Silverstein. You are impressive.

[Mike Clay]

Thank you. Those are my IQs haikus.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, so what?

[Mike Clay]

Despair is one, despair to pain is three. So let me know which is the best.

[Field Yates]

Okay. Can I vote as well or.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, sure. Or do you want to wait till. I want to wait.

[Daniel Dopp]

I want to see it first and then I'll tell you, Mike, I think that that was one of the better punishments we've had so far. Good for you, my friend.

[Mike Clay]

I like doing it. That was fun.

[Daniel Dopp]

Your girlfriend texted us last night and she was like, mike is so pumped to do these haikus. He wrote three of them with good reason.

[Mike Clay]

We had a good time for you.

[Daniel Dopp]

Didn't you?

[Mike Clay]

Actually? I had one and then I did probably. No, no, she. She was contributing at the beginning for the first one, and then I did the second one. And last night watching the game, I was just like, thinking about that. We need points.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mike Clay]

Need to get the touchdown and there's a flat. You know, like that. That sort of drama. We all.

[Daniel Dopp]

That third one was inspired by Broncos Raiders.

[Mike Clay]

It sure was.

[Field Yates]

It definitely was.

[Mike Clay]

It was like, we need fantasy points, but we're not going to get them because of this terrible.

[Daniel Dopp]

Oh, I love it. Anyway, that was a good one. All right, head on into the YouTube chat. Vote on which of you think or vote on which of the three haikus you think was best for Mike Clay. We'll talk about it at the end of the show.

[Mike Clay]

Pretty good though, I'm not gonna lie.

[Daniel Dopp]

Let's dive into our week 10 preview, part one. Mike, I'm gonna start with you. Let's keep things rolling.

[Field Yates]

Part two.

[Daniel Dopp]

Sorry, did I say part one?

[Mike Clay]

It's okay.

[Daniel Dopp]

I meant part two. Week ten preview Part two. Mike Clay first.

[Mike Clay]

This is my. You guys can participate in this one. This will be my longer segment. We're gonna do Sit or start tight end edition. We Friday. All right, I got five tight ends. We'll roll through them. You guys tell me if you want to sit or start these guys. We'll start with none other than our friend Kyle Pittsburgh. I'm wondering if this guy has made it to lineup lock territory with the state of of tight end two. Two top tight ends on a buy. Seven plus targets in three straight games. Lots of, lots of positive stats from him. Not getting the goal line work. That's kind of been a detriment. But they do play the Colts. A touchdown and 19 plus fantasy points allowed to opposing tight ends in four straight games. So Serge Stitt, that's it.

[Daniel Dopp]

I would start him as well. You mentioned no Jake Ferguson, no Travis Kelce. I think he's kind of reached the 12 tight end 12 to 14 range generally. So with those two guys on a buy, I would start Kyle 3.

[Mike Clay]

I'm at 6.

[Daniel Dopp]

Also, Darnell Mooney has not materialized in this offense like he had last year.

[Mike Clay]

He's just not fully healthy or what? Not a good connection with Pennock.

[Daniel Dopp]

Something's going on there.

[Mike Clay]

But yeah. All right, so that's the first one. Second one, guys. A guy that's newly on the fantasy radar picked up in a lot of leagues this week. Luke Musgrave, like this one as you mentioned yesterday. Point actually drafted around before Tucker. Kraft got that initial job but then was quickly replaced by Kraft, who proved to be the better player last week. Played 48% of the snaps. It's his highest since week three of last season. Had the three catches for 34 yards. But guys, he isn't at double digit fantasy points in a game since his rookie season. And the Eagles have dominated tight ends including this one touchdown. Allowed the lowest yards per target. Third fewest fantasy points. So Luke Musgrave, week 10, sit or start.

[Field Yates]

Okay, so not as good of A player as Tucker Kraft. On top of that, there is a vulnerability in this packers offense that even sometimes Tucker Kraft faced right where it's like he's an amazing player and he still might get four targets in a game. So Eileen, like he's a totally serviceable fill in for Tucker Kraft. If you had somebody else and you just played defense on the waiver wire, I'd be sitting him.

[Daniel Dopp]

That's what I would do as well. If I had to play him then. I get it. But I would rather go another direction.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, he's a sit for me. That's where.

[Daniel Dopp]

Can I ask really quickly, just from the draft pedigree standpoint, knowing that he was drafted before him, do you have any like sense as to why the packers liked him more? Was he a better pass catcher out of college?

[Field Yates]

He's a really good run athlete at Oregon State who was just like, you know, the potential. So for him to dominate as a receiver was in play. But Tucker Craft just Tucker Kraft also like small school South Dakota State versus not gigantic school. But you know, Oregon State was a PAC 10 program, right?

[Mike Clay]

Yep. And this happens too. Baltimore is famous for this. Where they took Dennis Pitta and Ed Dixon and then it was kind of back and forth. But Pitta was the better guy. I think he was the 1/2 the second tight end picked and then Mark Andrews and Hayden Hurst, same thing. Hurst was round one, Andrews later. Andrews is the better one. So sometimes it works out.

[Field Yates]

There was taken before Lamar Jackson as well.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, yeah, no doubt. All right. So that's Musgrave again.

[Field Yates]

Yes.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, I. I would say Musgraves defined speculative ad, but this week for sure. Next one for me, guys. You talked about him yesterday. Dalton Kincaid. Yeah. Just 44% of the snaps. He's yet to clear six targets in a game, but still eighth and fantasy points due to the four touchdowns and 12.5 yards per target. He's been boom bus. But. But you're just really reliant on the touchdowns. They play the Dolphins though, and Kincaid in week three, five for 66 and a touchdown. So sit or start Dalton Kincaid?

[Daniel Dopp]

He would be a start for me, but it doesn't mean I feel good about it.

[Field Yates]

He would be whatever I have been doing with him up to this point.

[Mike Clay]

That's.

[Field Yates]

That's.

[Daniel Dopp]

So I was thinking this. If you are. If you're even considering starting Dalton Kincaid, then you've probably been in the same situation for a number of weeks in a row. I would keep rolling with what I have been doing also. It's not like the Bills are a bad offense. Right? Like, at least.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, no. No doubt about it. Okay, I have him at 10th, so I would agree that they're actually probably after Bowers is out, but fringe starter. I'll say start though. Next up, this guy might not play, so we'll keep an eye on this one, but I'll mention him just in case he's active. Harold Fannin Jr. Last week, six catches, 62 yards and a touchdown. A career high 18.4 fantasy points. And remember, that was with David and Joku back for that game. It was the week before that he was out. He was back. However, now you have a fully healthy David and Joku and you have Tillman Central, Tillman coming back from ir and he'll have some sort of involvement in this passing game. Solid target share for Harold Fannin at 18.6%. So sit or start Harold Fannin, assuming.

[Field Yates]

You go, I think the decision will be made for you. He was added to the injury report yesterday. With the hamstring, he didn't practice at all, which suggests something happened on Wednesday. So if he plays, I lean towards start, but I'm not. I think he will make decision for.

[Daniel Dopp]

I agree if he plays. It would be difficult to bench him with how he's been playing, but I. I don't feel good about it.

[Field Yates]

Good number of targets from each week.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, he's a borderline for sure. I would probably. I don't really want to start mentioning this offense is the problem.

[Daniel Dopp]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Mike Clay]

That's the thing. I don't really trust anyone. But anyway, I would. He's borderline.

[Daniel Dopp]

Where do you have him ranked?

[Mike Clay]

11. 11 before last night. 10 now without Bowers in there. Okay, next last one, guys.

[Field Yates]

You had him ranked ahead of Brock Bowers this week.

[Mike Clay]

No, I said he moved up one with Bowers out of the rankings.

[Field Yates]

Okay.

[Mike Clay]

I mean, yes, I did. Thank you.

[Field Yates]

Thank you. Yes, yes.

[Mike Clay]

Don't. Don't start.

[Daniel Dopp]

Smart. Smart.

[Field Yates]

My.

[Mike Clay]

He's my pop. Bowers is my SID of the week. By the way, that's smart.

[Field Yates]

On the group text. I had that.

[Mike Clay]

Yes, sure. No doubt. Last one, guys, is speaking of Dalton Kincaid, Mark Andrew's touchdowns last week with Lamar back in the fold at 16.6 fantasy points. Just three targets, though, in the game now. Three or four targets in five of eight games this season. He's averaging 4.1 targets per game. 4.1 under 35 receiving yards in all but one game this year. But they play Minnesota.

[Field Yates]

That's right, baby.

[Mike Clay]

And they have allowed 18 plus fantasy points to A Ronde Gatson and Sam Laporta over the last two weeks. So are we buying on Mark Andrews? Sit or start?

[Daniel Dopp]

I am buying. Not only do that over the last two weeks, but the game they had before that, it was the Dallas Goddard game. He didn't do well, but the wide receivers smashed in that game and then really quickly the game before that. Both Harold Fannin and David and Joku found the end zone. So tight ends have been feasting against the Vikings because of that. Mark Andrews is a start for me this week.

[Field Yates]

You have persuaded me. I'm a start as well.

[Mike Clay]

Okay. I'm actually at 13, so I'm going to lean towards sit.

[Field Yates]

Wow.

[Mike Clay]

He that's kind of high for a guy that's seen four targets a game, to be honest with you. So generally he's a little lower so I would lean towards sit but he's close.

[Daniel Dopp]

It's close.

[Mike Clay]

He gets drunk.

[Daniel Dopp]

I like the matchup.

[Mike Clay]

Yep.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right.

[Mike Clay]

That's. That's my first topic.

[Daniel Dopp]

Tight End Start or Sit edition in the books out here.

[Field Yates]

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[Mike Clay]

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[Daniel Dopp]

Field Yates, what's your first takeaway?

[Field Yates]

All right, so for the second straight day, the Patriots were without running back Ramond Ray Stevenson at practice. He did not practice at all last week and ended up sitting obviously in week nine. Keep this in mind. And I don't know that this is in play, but it's certainly something that I think it will be logical to expect. Could be in play. The Patriots play next Thursday night against the New York jets. So load management could be on the mind of the Patriots as it pertains to this. Ramondre Stevenson, toe injury. If he's out, what is the value in Tribion Henderson? I would argue the value is somewhere around the top 16 to 20 running back. In Week 9, Henderson's first start, he played 75% of the snaps. He handled 14 carries. That was a team high. He had 55 rushing yards. That was also a team high, even if not a Gigantic Just under four yards of carry for Henderson there Importantly, he had six targets as well. Four catches for 32 yards. And while against the Buccaneers is very difficult to run the football right up the gut because of a man named Vita Vea, they have struggled against running backs this season. 7th Most fantasy points, especially in the passing game. Thank you. So I think Henderson, if I lean towards Stevenson, be out. He has been removed from Mike's projections and Mike always has a very good grip on this stuff. So I think Henderson, even if he's not the player that we hoped he would be coming into the season, you might get a pocket of two, maybe three, but probably two games of him being somewhere in that RB2 range.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, it's tough to trust him based on what we've seen how the coaching staff has used him. You just worry that he's going to like they're just going to come out and not use him that much. Like Terrell Jennings is the leader. Like you don't, you don't know for sure. That makes me a little nervous about him. I have him at 21. I think he's right on that fringe of the top 20 because guys like Ken Walker who suddenly is the lead back again in Seattle, Montgomery, etn, Breece, Hall, Swift, those are guys just ahead just, you know, just inside the top.

[Field Yates]

I think he's in that territory.

[Mike Clay]

I think he's just behind that group. So fringe top 20.

[Daniel Dopp]

I see the same thing, Mike. I would have him just outside the top 20 but think he's worth starting this week as well. My big question, speaking of the Patriots is let's talk about Stefan Diggs.

[Field Yates]

Let's do it. Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

Ten or more fantasy points in five to six games. Back to back weeks with a touchdown. He since week four, he's averaging 14 points per game. So that's pretty good. Really nice floor for a guy, right? And I want to talk about how sick this matchup with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is. I want to give a quick shout out to Joe Fortenbaugh. I was talking with him a couple weeks ago about how I wanted to do an Amon Ross St. Brown ladder bet against this team. And he said, you know what? Wide receiver ones against Tampa have done really well this year. I'm going to read off the matchups they've had so far this year. Week one, Drake London, 13 and a half fantasy points. Week two, Nico Collins, 14.2. Both of those are pretty good. Garrett Wilson in week three, 24.4.

[Field Yates]

Now we're talking A.J.

[Daniel Dopp]

Brown in week four. Do you remember that game, Mike, against the Bucks?

[Mike Clay]

Was that one of his good ones?

[Daniel Dopp]

2.7 fantasy points.

[Mike Clay]

Okay, so that wasn't good.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, then week here's where it starts. Week 5, JSN, 27.2. Week 6, Kendrick Bourne, who was the wide receiver, one of the 49ers at that time, had 19.2 fantasy points. Week 7, Amon Ra had 20.6 fantasy points and Chris Oliver had 14 in Week 8. Opposing wide receivers are averaging 17 fantasy points per game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They'd be averaging 19 fantasy points per game if you took out that scrub AJ Brown. And so when you look at this, Diggs is a wide receiver one, right? Sort of. That's coded. Then I want to ask you this question. Feel that he's a wide. He is. He is the Patriots wide receiver one. But when you only play 50 to 60% of the snaps, in spite of how good the matchup is, how high is too high for a guy like Stefan Diggs? He's a must start to me this week because of the matchup and the way that they utilize him. But I just wonder, like, how high do you think is too high? What do you have, Matt? 15.

[Field Yates]

Much higher than 19 or 20.

[Daniel Dopp]

19 or 20.

[Mike Clay]

Okay. Yeah, I'm at 20.

[Field Yates]

23 catches exactly in three of his last four games. I still think he's a hard player to size up. He's extremely talented. His quarterback is absolutely nails. The Patriots could score four touchdowns in any game. Basically. Remember, they played against the Browns. A very good defense, put a 32 against them. Like, I think this team is more real than not, for sure. But if he's playing 61% of the snaps, Mike has made a fair second.

[Daniel Dopp]

Highest snap percentage of the season, 61%.

[Field Yates]

Kenan Allen is kind of a good analog right now for Stefan Diggs. A big game is definitely possible. 4 for 44 is also in the cards.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah K Shawn Booty unlikely to go so we could see Stefan Diggs more on the boundary this week as Pop Douglas presumably will play more than 14 snaps because he's barely I know he's coming off a big game, but barely played last week so he would be in the slot. Digs more outside. But you're right, they could put Kyle Williams outside and leave Diggs inside.

[Daniel Dopp]

So we'll see every wide receiver one except for AJ has hit 13 and a half fantasy points against this team. Do you think Stefan Diggs gets to 13 and a half fantasy points?

[Mike Clay]

Well, I mean I have him projected for 14 round, you know, rounded to 14 so rating that.

[Daniel Dopp]

There we go. All right.

[Mike Clay]

I would put him 20th sounds good.

[Daniel Dopp]

Feel Jeeves, you're up next.

[Field Yates]

Let's stay in that game. And is Bucky Irving going to return it? So it does not sound like he's going to return Bucky Irving. Irving has missed yet another practice here. Not going to speculate. Just going to leave it be. He will return whenever he returns. Until that time, it's the Rashad White Show.

[Mike Clay]

Worth noting.

[Field Yates]

By the way, Chris Godwin also did not participate in practice yesterday. Jeremy Fowler was talking about Godwin yesterday on the airwaves. It could be a little time before we see Chris Godwin. Perhaps a little bit of a lost season for him or maybe a first 75% of the season lost. But the Patriots, if they let's talk about Rashad White, then how high he would rank this week because the Patriots have allowed the fourth fewest fantasy points to opposing running backs this season. That is largely on the strength of their elite, perhaps best in the NFL run defense. I think they actually have moved up to number one in the NFL. And fewest rushing yards per game allowed. Not just factory and running backs, but they are the only team in the entire league that has not yet allowed a running back to reach 50 yards in a game as a runner. They allowed Josh Allen to get past that threshold, but it's something like 72 years that hasn't happened. So this is a run defense that is balling the heck out. Rashad White's interesting one though. The receiving value definitely helps. Yeah, but he has 13 catches total over his last four games. So just over three. Not a terrible number. But we're not talking about Christian McCaffrey or Bijan where it's just so good that you could get nothing as A runner and still be fine.

[Mike Clay]

Still be good. Yeah.

[Field Yates]

And under four yards per carry in each of those four games. He has not scored a touchdown in two straight games. I think he probably needs a touchdown to cash in as a strong RB2.

[Mike Clay]

I hear you. But the volume is just so good in that offense, and I think they'll come out of the buy and be a little. Get back on track to some extent. I know they're still missing Godwin and Mike Evans, but Baker is a legitimately good player.

[Field Yates]

Yeah.

[Mike Clay]

Now, they could use Kate Otten. So Sterling Shepherd's fine as, like, a Serviceable Depth Guy. T.E. johnson.

[Field Yates]

As Johnson maybe is.

[Mike Clay]

I think they're going to be fine. So. And Rashad White's a good player, so. And who scores a lot of touchdowns, so I have him at 11, which is a, you know, a front end. RB2. To your point.

[Field Yates]

Little lower than you.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah. Which is fine. I mean, again, he's raining that conversation with Tyron Warren Judkins sort of conversation. But the. The volume has been so nice for him the last few weeks without Irving, so I'm. I feel fine starting him.

[Field Yates]

You're looking very intently.

[Daniel Dopp]

I was just, like, trying to go through the. The. His game log to just kind of see what's been going on. How has he looked since? I mean, he's had two good games with no Rashad White, too, like, games. But even his games, sorry, with Bucky Irving, they're not like, you know, 1.3 fantasy points. If I'm getting nine fantasy points and, like, that's my dud, I'll take nine as a dud from my running back, so. But obviously we like the idea of Rashad White. I was obviously doing the practice reports. I have no idea. I was trying to do so much research into being like, can I find anything about Bucky Irving? Still no idea.

[Field Yates]

I would say in these cases, silence speaks volumes. Right. I wouldn't expect Bucky Irving to play this week.

[Daniel Dopp]

I'm gonna talk about a couple more running backs here. Two good running backs on two bad teams. Okay. Quintean Judkins versus Breece Hall. I'd like to think about Jets Browns more as Breece hall versus Quintean Judkins because I don't think the game is going to be very good, to be honest. Quinte John Judkins has at least 100 rushing yards or a touchdown in four of his last six games, which is nice. You love to be able to see that. However, the other two games were really bad. Under 40 rushing yards. And when he doesn't either get in the end zone or have a lot of rushing yards, he has duds under five fantasy points in both those games. Why? Because he doesn't catch the football or if he does, it's very limited within that situation. So he has I like him this week. I like him this week too. I like him this week too. Over 80% of his fantasy points has come from as a runner. That's the fifth highest percentage in the NFL. Just highlighting the idea that he does not catch passes a lot. But the jets running backs have jets defense has not been super scary for opposing running backs. Plus you have no Quinton Williams. Yeah, plus there's no Sauce Gardner. It feels like this defense got even worse than it was the week before. So while he doesn't catch passes and while we have talked about we want him to be able to find the end zone, I still really like Quintean Judkins. He checks in as a mid tier RB2. For me, you guys see it similarly.

[Field Yates]

Same way. Yeah, I like him a lot in this game. It should be a low scoring game. I think the total actually bumped up from 36 and a half to 37 and a half over at ESPN BET following the two defensive trades. But still a very low total. Either way, I do not anticipate the Browns playing from behind. Game script should work well here for Quinn John Judkins. I think it's perhaps a touch too optimistic to believe that the jets traded away the single best run defender in the entire NFL in Quinn and Williams. But definitely an impactful run defender in Quinn and Williams. Of note, his brother Quincy who was an all approached a couple of years ago got benched too. Tough week for the Williams as it pertains to the Jets. But I like Quinn John Judkins more than I like Breece hall in this matchup.

[Daniel Dopp]

I agree because Breece hall has a much more difficult matchup. Mike Clay against the Cleveland Browns. Breece has four games over 110 yards this year and two or more catches in every game but one. So he's getting nice passing game work. You'd love to be able to see that. But the Browns are allowing the second fewest fantasy points per game to the running back position. It's tough.

[Mike Clay]

Terrific.

[Field Yates]

They're really good. By the way.

[Daniel Dopp]

Both are mid tier RB2s though in spite of the matchups that's sort of where I have them.

[Field Yates]

This feels like such a great game. That will matter more once we get to like January 6th when the season is over we're going to look back and be like, hey, the Browns have the third pick and the jets have the fifth. Why? Because the jets beat the Browns or vice versa. I think I'd probably pick Cleveland in this game.

[Daniel Dopp]

I would.

[Field Yates]

Yeah.

[Mike Clay]

But yeah, by the way, speaking, you know, I was thinking about this when you were talking about the line moving one one and a half points from those two, two of the better defenders in the NFL. Kind of shows you a little bit of the thinking, I think for the jets, which is that like yeah, two superstar players are paying a lot of money, move the needle about one one and a half points. Whereas if a court your star quarterback, I think about Lamar Jackson is out for Baltimore points.

[Field Yates]

Right.

[Mike Clay]

I mean that shows you the actual value of a good quarterback. And that's what the jets need more than anything. Like they don't you hit on a quarterback, those guys, you're not going to miss them guys at all. I mean it, they're great to have. But quarterback, just when other guys are injured, the line barely moves. Like it, it quarterback is so such a huge thing.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah, well, I don't like either one of those teams but both of those running backs are just. I like them as mid tier RB2s.

[Field Yates]

I think Mike has stuff. But can I just go to this, my last topic.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah.

[Field Yates]

Because it is once again in that game.

[Daniel Dopp]

Oh, no way.

[Field Yates]

Garrett Wilson matchup and his presumed return. Garrett Wilson has been back on the practice field this week. Remember, he missed two games prior to their buy because of a knee injury. The Browns though have done a good job against legitimate wide receivers so far this season. The numbers I think are just sort of okay when you look at the Browns versus wide receivers. But some notable performances by wide receivers against the Browns this year.

[Mike Clay]

Let's hear it.

[Field Yates]

Jamar Chase all the way back in week one, two for 26. That's bad, bad, bad.

[Mike Clay]

That was with Joe Burrow, by the.

[Field Yates]

Way, say flowers in week two. Not bad. 14.9 fantasy points, seven catches, 75 yards plus a four yard rush. Matthew golden led all packers wide receivers 10.1.

[Mike Clay]

Breakout game. Right. He's probably been skyrocketing since that one.

[Field Yates]

Jalen Waddle, as we know, has been really good. He has lately killed, got hurt. Except for against the Browns, he had one catch for 15 yards. The weather sucked that day. That being said, one for 15 is not going to cut it. Stefan Diggs, who we were just talking about, he ended up with 10.4 fantasy points on the strength of three catches for 14 yards and one touchdown in Week 8. So the Browns were off this past weekend. It has been pretty tough for opposing wide receivers against the Browns this season. I think Garrett Wilson is still a top 20 wide receiver. We discussed him as a guy who could potentially see his value dip a little bit compared to where it was especially early on in the year.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, I agree.

[Daniel Dopp]

Doesn't feel great as it seems like we're gonna get Justin Fields under center again. Remember when they had a quarterback controversy and then they just sort of like disappeared into the ether?

[Mike Clay]

They might next week. Yeah, the Browns shut him down and.

[Field Yates]

He might start him this week. Tyrod Taylor could start this week.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, we don't know that for sure.

[Daniel Dopp]

I have no idea.

[Mike Clay]

I would be surprised at this point. I feel like we would have heard something there. But you're right. We could find out today. I would. Tyrod, starting, would you.

[Daniel Dopp]

Do you think that we're going to have any Cleveland Browns quarterback rumblings as we get through the second half of the season?

[Field Yates]

Absolutely. I think it's going to start this week. I think there's a chance that Shador Sanders is active. Remember, he was inactive recently because of a back injury. Wouldn't stun me if we see him on the field a little bit, but. Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

One thing I'm grateful for about that situation is that at least it's an offense for us in fantasy that we're already not really relying on pass catchers so we don't have to play.

[Field Yates]

Like the rookie quarterback roulette thing there. He's going to take away the value of Jerry Judy.

[Mike Clay]

It's like, no, I want to see it. And if you're the Browns, you have to find out. Why else did you take him as a speculative pick? Find out if you need to draft a quarterback in the top five.

[Field Yates]

Next year has been booming. I mean, it was a great business move. There's no.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, I get. I guess so. But like, you need to also run a businesses and run your football team. So you need to find out if you need to draft a quarterback with some top five pick next year.

[Field Yates]

My sense was always that, like, you know, the owner felt like this was a really savvy business. I don't know that for a fact. I just think it's. I think it seems logical goal. Like what team was discussed more in the preseason than the Browns? Maybe the Chiefs. Right.

[Mike Clay]

Cowboys.

[Daniel Dopp]

Well, nonetheless.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah. Take a look at them.

[Field Yates]

Yeah, I agree on that.

[Mike Clay]

Probably soon. Yeah.

[Field Yates]

All right, Mike.

[Mike Clay]

All right. Yeah, I have a couple more. You guys are done, right?

[Daniel Dopp]

I Got one more.

[Mike Clay]

We'll go back and forth.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right.

[Mike Clay]

Seahawks running back. What's that?

[Field Yates]

Do I get to leave now or no?

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, you can go. Seahawks running backs again. They had to buy two weeks ago. They come back last week and finally we got the switch back. It was Al. Zach Charbonnet, he out snapped, snapped Walker in five of their six games together to open the season. They come out of the buy and they. It's back to Ken Walker. Now, it's not 75% Ken Walker, but he had an edge 53% of the snaps. That was highest of the season. 54%. Excuse me. 11 carries and two targets. Zach Charbonnet, 18 snaps, eight carries and one target in the game. Now, Walker was still held below 10 fantasy points for the fourth game in a row. Hasn't scored since Week 3. Charbonnet, meanwhile, has five touchdowns in seven games. Wow, they must be doing well. Nope. He's averaging 2.9 yards per carry and is cleared 12.4 points one time this season. These guys already faced Arizona earlier this season. Walker was good. 20 touches, 110 yards, 12 fantasy points. Didn't score, though. Zach Charbonnet did. That's been the story of the season, dude. He had just 44 yards and a touchdown at 12.4 points. So combined they had 24.4 against Arizona, which is fine. So if you assume Walker's the top guy here now, or at least a 1A, it gives him an edge, and I feel like that's enough to put him on that RB2 radar. So I would consider starting Walker against Arizona. Agreed. Charbonnet. No, I'm. As a. He's on the bench.

[Daniel Dopp]

Low end, RB2 or high end flex consideration. This Seattle Seahawks backfield just needs to become like a transformer. If we could just put these two running backs together, we'd be so satisfied with the running back for the Seattle Seahawks team.

[Mike Clay]

AKA feature one of the them.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah, or do that.

[Mike Clay]

Or just pick one. That's it. Like, even if it's not Walker, just. Just get rid of them then. And just use Charbonnet. No, that's what we'll do that. Well, I would prefer it to be Walker, of course, but I'm just saying at least feature one so we could start someone.

[Daniel Dopp]

I got Zach Charbonnet in my Dynasty squad, so I'm fine if Ken Walker leaves Seattle for what it's worth.

[Mike Clay]

So.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah.

[Field Yates]

No, you make Chardonnay puns at least, but besides that, not much.

[Mike Clay]

No, I like Ken Walker. He's a good player and He's a good player. Continues upward.

[Daniel Dopp]

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[Mike Clay]

Yeah, this one will be quick because we did talk about this guy on Wednesday, DK Metcalf, coming off a game where he had a seasonal 4 targets and 2.6 fantasy points. I talked about the splits the other day. He's been shadowed in four games. All four of those were duds. I mean, 12.3 against SAS Gardner was his best performance in those four games where he was shadowed the games. He wasn't shadowed three of the four. He was very good. He had 16 plus fantasy points. And the exception was the Seahawks, one of the better defenses in the NFL. But guys, he's 39th now in targets among receivers.

[Daniel Dopp]

Wow.

[Mike Clay]

He's seventh in touchdowns. So remains very dependent on low volume and hoping for that touchdown. Much like Seattle, a tough matchup. They play the Chargers. Four touchdowns and the 6. Six fewest fantasy points to receivers this season. I have Metcalf at 23, so he's a good wide wide receiver. Three, you can start him, but it's been boom bus and it's going to continue.

[Field Yates]

I saw a quote from Aaron Rodgers and I apologize because I don't know if it was asked through the prism of do you need to feed DK Metcalf the football more? But his response about like where the ball goes was something to the effect of you got to go back and watch the tape. It depends on who was open. It depends on the progression, things like that. Right?

[Mike Clay]

You're like, sounds familiar. Sounds like Kyler and Marvin. I was just gonna say that. Oh, and, and by the way, my.

[Daniel Dopp]

Job to get him to football.

[Mike Clay]

I would agree with. I was gonna say something along those lines, which isn't like watching the tape from his perspective, but just watching the games. You're like, it's very rare that you. You identify Metcalf where he's on the field. And then you watch Rogers and you're like, he's not the top read like, ever. I mean, it's very rare that you're. He's like, okay, looking to get it. No, he's not there. That doesn't happen. It's just like, we got to get Washington or Connor or feels like Hayward Orton is often the Friarmouth or. Anyway, it doesn't seem like they. It's like they have five plays set up for Metcalfe game and that's it.

[Field Yates]

It's like, good report, Ben Scaranic.

[Daniel Dopp]

This is what I don't understand. Why do they want is an NFL conversation? Just give me two seconds. But why do they want Aaron Rodgers to return in 2026 when they paid a guy $150 million and he doesn't even throw the football to the wide receiver they gave all this money to? What am I missing as a part of that?

[Field Yates]

They're five and three.

[Daniel Dopp]

So they're like such a fake five. And dude, they just beat the Colts.

[Field Yates]

So, like, I think they're probably saying to themselves, like, yeah, people call us fake, but we're in first place in our division by a couple of games. Maybe we weren't. We aren't that fake.

[Mike Clay]

And everyone called find out when fake. The Eagles were frauds. The Bucks now are frauds. Everyone's. Everyone's a fraud. The Chiefs were frauds. Last year they went to Super Bowl. Like, everyone's what happened? Yeah, you have one, like, bad quarter and you're a fraud. It's just like, nonsense. Last week, they're fraud.

[Daniel Dopp]

They're frauds. Now. That's true. That's true.

[Mike Clay]

That's the nature of the league.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, I'm going to dive into the Week 10 injury report. I'll keep it as quickly as possible. A couple of full participants that I want to be able to give you guys coming into a bye week. Last week we knew that Saquon Barkley was banged up, wondered how he was going to progress. Everything seems fine. We're planning on him rolling this week. Also, There was no DeAndre Swift last week. You saw a lot of Kyle Manungai. DeAndre Swift has been full participant on Thursday. Thinks like, we're going to get him back. I want to Ask you guys though, we saw over 175 rushing yards from Kyle Menungai as the lead back of that Bears Field. If DeAndre Swift plays this week and Kyle Manungai is on the field at the same time, do you think that there is enough juice from Anung guy to be startable in fantasy as a flex or would you want to go another direction?

[Field Yates]

No, not yet.

[Mike Clay]

He bengaled it last week.

[Field Yates]

Okay. I have more optimism on like the caliber of runner that he is.

[Mike Clay]

No, I agree with that. But I mean but the matchup got better last week and he was useless in fantasy all but two weeks so far and one of them was a game where Swift also had a huge game and they just were able to run the whole game. And then last week with Swift out against the Bengals, which everyone has done great. So I don't think he's there yet and I don't think this is a committee situation. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they decide, hey, we have two good backs now we're just going to split it up and very instructive week.

[Field Yates]

Ahead because we'll learn something about this back the rest of the season. Quick check on the weather for Chicago. I told you guys about earlier in the week how there might be a little bit of snow and snow. All right, so it's down to like if there's going to be snow, it's going to be very light and it's going to be very early. Like overnight into Sunday once the game begins, it is going to just be windy, which is what happens because it's Chicago.

[Mike Clay]

And by the way, it is a great matchup against the Giants. So maybe there is a chance that you have a big Swift and a big mononga game. So like I have manangai at 25, so I'm not saying like auto bench. This is a guy that in 12 team league maybe is a flex option. Yep. But you know, my, I guess my point is I don't expect him to be the lead back or do anything close to last week.

[Field Yates]

Okay.

[Daniel Dopp]

Swift's still the guy pumping expectations on Kyle Manangai if you got a big deal.

[Mike Clay]

By the way, can I add one more running back really quick? You mentioned those, those two guys also Quinshawn Judkins. Remember he got hurt before when we last saw him and we thought, you know, Jerome Ford and Dylan Sampson might be their running backs this week, but it looks like he's fine. Looks like he's good to go.

[Field Yates]

He's actually not even on the injury report. No Last Bears thing. Cole Comet practiced in full yesterday.

[Mike Clay]

He did.

[Field Yates]

So that, you know, is something about, you know, obviously the value of Colson is perhaps tied to Cole Comet.

[Mike Clay]

I think.

[Field Yates]

So there's also a chance they unleash him. Right. He's the 10th overall pick in the draft. The guy clearly is a ballerina. But it's hard to imagine the ceiling is as high with Cole.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, I'm not there yet. I'm not. We talked about that yesterday. I think. I'm not. I'm not as optimistic yet that something really changed there. I think Kemet's not just going to disappear. But I've been wrong before, so we'll see.

[Field Yates]

No, you haven't.

[Mike Clay]

Well, like twice.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah, only when talking about Packers. Let's talk about a couple of wide receivers here real quick field. You already mentioned it. Chris Godwin, very likely not going to go this week. I'm expecting him to miss. Didn't practice Wednesday and Thursday. Ameka abuka, wide receiver 9 For us this week. And if you needed to throw a dart, the other dart that we would throw would be on Tez Johnson. I'd rather not throw that dart if I could help it, though. Terry McLaurin, not likely going to go in this one. Thinking we're not going to have him. Did not practice Wednesday or Thursday. I'm expecting him to miss. Debo is going to be wide receiver 14 and I don't have anyone else in that wide receiving core that I would want to start against the Lions.

[Field Yates]

You do not. But we should note big news this morning for the commanders for the quarterback position about this. Yeah. So Jaden Daniels is not going to go on injured reserve according to Adam Schefter. It sounds like basically what looked like a gnarly, maybe even season ending injury on the field Sunday night could have him back in the fold by like week 13 or 14.

[Daniel Dopp]

Need it.

[Field Yates]

So the commanders have a week 12 by. I believe it is.

[Mike Clay]

It is week 12. So that would be out week 10 out week 11. Then you have your week 12 by then potentially, potentially back 13 or 14. But the thing is, to your point, if you put him on IR, he can't come back till week 15. So they expect him to have a shot to come back before that 13, 14. So you might get him back for the fantasy playoffs. He's been dropped in a lot of leagues.

[Field Yates]

Yes, he was.

[Mike Clay]

So feel free to scoop him up and throw him on ir.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right. Another wide receiver here, Brian Thomas, did not practice on Wednesday or Thursday. Dealing with an ankle Sprain. I really need to see Friday. I have not gotten the sense that he's just definitively going to miss, but I get the sense that he needs to be on the field on Friday. So today is a big day. We'll monitor that. Obviously, no Travis Hunter. And if you look at this, I mean, Jacoby, Myers, Parker, Washington is going.

[Field Yates]

To play a lot for them and he has been really solid over the past couple of games. Very tough matchup on Sunday. Just as about as difficult as it gets with the Texans, right?

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, no doubt about it. I left Thomas in the projections yesterday just because there was the comment that he may play from the coach early in the week. So I didn't see often. If a guy doesn't practice like this, gets hurt, I'll pull him out. I left him until today. We'll make a call today.

[Daniel Dopp]

I will.

[Mike Clay]

Yes.

[Daniel Dopp]

If he does not practice today, I am making plans to move ahead.

[Mike Clay]

Without that. I think there's a good chance he gets rolled out today.

[Field Yates]

But oh, if he doesn't practice today. I think we know what the right is on that one.

[Daniel Dopp]

Garrett Wilson was limited on Thursday, has not played since week six. You already about it, but it feels like we're in a good direction with him. He looks like he's going to go. Reminder, Stevenson, you already talked about him. We talked about Trayvon Henderson there as well and a couple other running backs that were upgraded this week. James Cook didn't practice Wednesday but was limited Thursday. Love that. And Rico Dow. Yes, Rico Dowdle.

[Mike Clay]

Same thing.

[Daniel Dopp]

Rico Dowle got banged up. You saw him limping around that, you.

[Field Yates]

Know, last game that he played back from carrying fantasy.

[Mike Clay]

That's exactly what it was.

[Daniel Dopp]

But I think that things seem to be fine there. He was limited on Thursday. We'll continue to monitor. And then last one was the tight end position which Mike already mentioned earlier in the show in Harold Fannin. So. So something to watch there. If you have been riding that Harold Fan and train, maybe just make sure you have another tight end just in case. And if David and Joku was on waivers, go grab him. That's going to be the week 10 injury report.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah.

[Field Yates]

All right.

[Mike Clay]

By the way, guys, I had my phone started ringing. It just said probable spam. Right. So I just hit the button and the voicemail came through. You know. You know, now on the iPhone it'll just like put the text.

[Field Yates]

Yeah.

[Mike Clay]

And the text just said goodbye. So I mean, it's been nice knowing you guys.

[Field Yates]

Wow, what a run.

[Mike Clay]

I don't know. I don't know who that was.

[Daniel Dopp]

Sorry, man.

[Field Yates]

Ten years at espn, I don't know.

[Mike Clay]

Where that came from.

[Daniel Dopp]

That's too bad.

[Mike Clay]

A little concerning. I don't know what the goodbye means, but no good.

[Daniel Dopp]

Big deal.

[Mike Clay]

It's been fun.

[Field Yates]

It's been nice knowing you, Mike. We're doing our starts of the week in a minute, and I feel very strongly that we will have crossover in at least two of our four players.

[Daniel Dopp]

I'm worried that I need to pick a new player after some people were ruled out because the player that I chose was much farther down the list. So we'll talk about it as we get into it.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, I think I know who you're talking about. And that guy I still had outside my top 20 when I updated, so I left him in, but we'll.

[Daniel Dopp]

Okay. All right. All right. Well, Mike, here's the deal. For the punishment, I'm gonna ask you to put your helmet on right now. For the people at home.

[Mike Clay]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Daniel Dopp]

Everyone wants to see punishment.

[Mike Clay]

Y this guy thinks last time, shout out to 50 states in 50 days.

[Field Yates]

That was an awesome.

[Daniel Dopp]

That helmet looks huge.

[Field Yates]

Like does look gigantic. Aaron Rogers like, astronaut helmet.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, this is. It's big.

[Daniel Dopp]

Honestly, there's a little bit.

[Mike Clay]

That's my head.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah, you've got a little bit of Aaron Rodgers look because you got the salt and pepper beard there with it as well. And then the real big are both 35 years old. All right. It looks pretty good.

[Mike Clay]

I 9, 19. What does he say?

[Daniel Dopp]

He's got like. You've watched football?

[Field Yates]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mike Clay]

Anything but Dak Prescott. I can't take that.

[Daniel Dopp]

Here we go. You don't like here we go?

[Mike Clay]

No.

[Daniel Dopp]

You and Draymond Green.

[Field Yates]

Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, well, let's dive into our starts of the week here in week 10 in which Mike Clay is going to lead us off. Mike. With his punishment.

[Mike Clay]

So I could take this helmet off because it. It looks big and it feels big.

[Daniel Dopp]

You got to read it, though, like you're barking signals. That's how this works.

[Mike Clay]

All right, Jordan Love is the quarterback. Jordan Love. Jordan Love. Jordan Love. That's who we're going with against the Eagles this week. Bad last week, but 26 plus points and two of his last five.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, all right.

[Mike Clay]

Running back, this is the guy. Okay. Trevian Trevion Henderson. Trayvon gets the Buccaneers. We talked about him earlier coming off the 87 yard game last week. So we're going travion like it. Next up, DJ Moore. DJ Moore. There you go. That's it. These are Audible calls. Okay, we're going DJ More against the Giants. Good matchup here. Coming off actually back to back. Good games. Yes. Now gets the giants. D.J. moore. Yeah. Otten. Otten. Kate Otten.

[Daniel Dopp]

That was a good one, Mike.

[Field Yates]

That was good.

[Mike Clay]

Like an audible.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah.

[Mike Clay]

Last three games, 6.7 targets per game, four plus catches and all three. So Kate Otten at tight end.

[Daniel Dopp]

My favorite part that the people couldn't see. We're in a three box. Right. So we have a real tight shot. My favorite part is that you motioned Kate Otten to come in motion while you were doing it. I loved it.

[Field Yates]

So good. Good.

[Daniel Dopp]

That was really good. Hey, not bad.

[Mike Clay]

M. Way to go crossover. That's my last punishment of the year, guys.

[Daniel Dopp]

I need to.

[Field Yates]

I mean, not if you lose again today.

[Daniel Dopp]

Really quickly. I. I need to say this before we go forward because one of the players that I was worried about that I also have is Travon Henderson, who after the Randre Stevenson having been removed when I did this, he was like much farther down the list.

[Mike Clay]

Now where's he at in our consensus now?

[Daniel Dopp]

Running back 19. Oh.

[Mike Clay]

He didn't move up that far, so.

[Daniel Dopp]

I picked him because when I picked it, he was far enough out. But I'm wondering if maybe just for spirit of the game while you give your, you know, your picks here field, I'm going to see if I can find another running back to all of.

[Field Yates]

Us have to pivot. If. I mean, I don't have. I didn't pick him, but I think. Let's ask Chad. We'll read our picks.

[Daniel Dopp]

Great.

[Field Yates]

And they'll give you guys a. Henderson.

[Mike Clay]

A acceptable.

[Daniel Dopp]

An acceptable pick for when you picked him or do we need to pick somebody else?

[Field Yates]

We have like basically 3 minutes to vote on this Chat. Okay.

[Mike Clay]

Yep.

[Field Yates]

Should Trayvon Henderson be allowed to. Okay, the clock has begun. I'll give my picks and I'll. I'll filibuster for a minute so that you can then make his picks and we'll wait for Chat's ruling. My quarterback is the best quarterback in the NFL. Jared Goff.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah.

[Field Yates]

Washington commanders in a very tasty matchup on Sunday. I think the Lions are going to come out hot because they are pissed about losing.

[Mike Clay]

I didn't think he was going to qualify. I have to check this one.

[Field Yates]

I think he was Jared Goff. Isn't he at quarterback 12. He was like quarterback.

[Mike Clay]

Okay. All right. I thought he was 11. And we pulled.

[Field Yates]

Let me see. Where do they end up? Jared Daniel.

[Daniel Dopp]

Jared Goff has ended at a quarterback 10.

[Mike Clay]

Oh, man.

[Daniel Dopp]

I mean, here's the problem. And if I field. If you were smart, you have him as Quarterback 9. If you just ranked him as Quarterback 11, he would have qualified for the second.

[Mike Clay]

That's why you guys have been beating me. That's. He's figured out the strategy. He moves the numbers in the system. Yeah, no, that's okay. I. I thought about. I'm okay with Jared Goff, but I passed because I, I thought he would go from.

[Field Yates]

I don't have a strong opinion on. On Travy Henderson, by the way. So you guys can do whatever you want. Jameson Williams is my wide receiver. I'm going for Stack. Yeah, why not? I figure if the matchup.

[Mike Clay]

Oh, Jamie.

[Field Yates]

Perhaps Jameson Williams has another big day after having a big day last week. I've been down this well before. Kamani Vidal, who plays the Steelers Sunday night, he has had over 100 rushing yards in two of his four games. Saw a little more Jared Patterson, which was discouraging last week, but I do think Vidal gets back on track. And last but not least, Mike and I see it differently.

[Mike Clay]

Okay.

[Field Yates]

Colston Loveland.

[Mike Clay]

I love it. Yeah, I thought you might go there.

[Field Yates]

I think it's a thing.

[Mike Clay]

Did you go yet?

[Field Yates]

He has not yet. I think it's a thing here with Loveland.

[Daniel Dopp]

I think so too. Field.

[Field Yates]

I do think at some point you're just like. It's so apparent how talented the kid is. Right. And they need to get some things going here. Giants a little bit banged up in the secondary.

[Daniel Dopp]

No. Paul, send a debo in this one as well. He's. Well, I shouldn't say no. He has Back to back DMPs.

[Mike Clay]

Yes. By the way, Jameson ranked 30th in the consensus, but it's all right. You know, I understand that I didn't lose for a month and you guys have to cheat to be me, but hold on.

[Daniel Dopp]

I thought he was wide receiver 32 before Thursday Night Football. And then how many top 30 wide receivers played in that game?

[Field Yates]

Tyler Lockett.

[Daniel Dopp]

No, there was one because I looked at this.

[Field Yates]

Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

It's not Troy Franklin. It wasn't any of the Raiders. It was cold.

[Field Yates]

It was. Maybe somebody else was pulled due to.

[Daniel Dopp]

Cortland Sutton was the only one. Maybe that's what it was. Maybe.

[Field Yates]

I will say though is that I have two players that are on the boundary of where the thresholds. You have somebody inside the threshold.

[Daniel Dopp]

Oh, that's fair.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, he was all right. Yeah. All right.

[Daniel Dopp]

We got the results.

[Mike Clay]

What's the result?

[Daniel Dopp]

We got the Results from tag board. Let's see what we have from our YouTube chat. 55% say that Mike is allowed to use Travion Henderson.

[Field Yates]

You got 8,000 votes in three minutes.

[Daniel Dopp]

Isn't that pretty good? Yeah, not bad.

[Mike Clay]

No, that's eight million. You eight million.

[Field Yates]

Listen, Mike, I'm not a math guy, right? I'm a numbers.

[Mike Clay]

Got to count them. Zeros up. Yeah. All right.

[Daniel Dopp]

Daniel starts of the week for me at the quarterback spot.

[Field Yates]

Pirate starts of the week for me, my dear.

[Mike Clay]

Starts all raiders and boys bucks now.

[Daniel Dopp]

You know, I think. Actually I thought that the only thing I was good at was an old timey prospector. I think I have an okay piratey voice for what it's worth, so thank you.

[Field Yates]

Know a pirate yet?

[Daniel Dopp]

You do. Oh, no.

[Field Yates]

You do.

[Daniel Dopp]

We've talked about this.

[Field Yates]

We have? Yeah.

[Mike Clay]

What?

[Daniel Dopp]

Yes. No field. Real life knows a pirate.

[Field Yates]

Life of a pirate. Yeah.

[Mike Clay]

You rob ships?

[Field Yates]

Yeah. Yes.

[Daniel Dopp]

Okay.

[Mike Clay]

Is that you can.

[Daniel Dopp]

This is real. This is not a joke.

[Field Yates]

Don't leave your keisha on booty near him or else he will be taking it. Hey, yo.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right. My quarterback, I always try if I can, and they're under. Under the percent or under the QB10 spot to be able to go with the real deal player of the week at the quarterback spots, I'm going with Jacoby Brissette. Trusting the vet against the Seahawks.

[Mike Clay]

That's a good starter, so that's that.

[Daniel Dopp]

At the running back spot, I also have Travion Henderson, as we know, because Mike's allowed to use him. I'm allowed to use them. And then I am also going to go with the great wide receiver matchup of one, Jameson Williams.

[Field Yates]

All right, all right. All right.

[Daniel Dopp]

And one of us believes. Two of us believe in this guy at the tight end spot, Colson Loveland.

[Mike Clay]

Can't wait till he goes 2 for 20.

[Daniel Dopp]

Bringing it back. I gotta let it ride. You know what? I had one really good game, right? One really good game with Colson Loveland, and it just brings me back to the Bahamas. Hanging out with the. The nice man league at the crap table. Sometimes you just gotta let stuff ride. This is one of those things. I'm just gonna let Colson Loveland ride. All right, so Colston Cook, Jacoby Brissette, Travyon Henderson, JMO and Colson Loveland are my four. This is gonna be another good one.

[Field Yates]

Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

Oh, can I really quickly? I want to shout this out. I was asking our producer Tyler about it.

[Field Yates]

Okay.

[Daniel Dopp]

We've been doing this now for nine weeks. Starts of the week.

[Field Yates]

Yep.

[Daniel Dopp]

Field has the most wins with four wins so far this year. He also has the fewest points scored.

[Mike Clay]

What?

[Daniel Dopp]

Oh, no, sorry. Second fewest points scored. Three of them.

[Mike Clay]

It's fewest.

[Daniel Dopp]

Oh, I'm sorry. I was looking at the screen here. That's. It might be backwards here on the screen then. So Field has the fewest points scored.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, it's four. Yeah, it is. Backward. Yates, 459. Clay, 467.

[Daniel Dopp]

So, Mike, you're scoring like you're in the middle.

[Field Yates]

Points per game more than me.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah. Well, maybe you should do better.

[Daniel Dopp]

And I have the fewest wins and more points than both of you. Like, I don't understand how this works out.

[Mike Clay]

This is fantasy football.

[Daniel Dopp]

This is fantasy football.

[Field Yates]

The Broncos are 8 and 2, and I watched them play last night, and they keep beating bad teams by, like, three points.

[Daniel Dopp]

Unbelievable. Well, I need to get some wins because even though I have more points than you guys, I want some dubs, because that's what it's all about at the end of the game.

[Mike Clay]

We play victory points now for the.

[Daniel Dopp]

We need to.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, we need to ask you a random question. We have a little time here. Yeah, I think that. Are you worried at all about the Patriots? Same kind of thing, beating up on bad teams all season. Like, are they going to mean, like, will the.

[Field Yates]

Will the clock strike at night for them?

[Mike Clay]

Like, are they just going to be like, oh, this is an okay team, but they're not.

[Field Yates]

I think they're a solid team. I think the difference between them and the Broncos is that the Patriots have been handling business against bad team for the most part. Right. Like, 32, 13 against the Browns. They just total. Like, they clobbered the Titans. It was a fair, slow start. They beat up on, I don't know, a handful of teams. They had a tight one last week against Atlanta. Atlanta feels like the rare 3 and 5 team that's actually better than 3 and 5. But I, you know, like, I think this team is building some confidence. I'm not sure that Denver's, like, growing more confident by the week on offense.

[Mike Clay]

And look, I hope they're the real deal because they were my favorite sleeper team this year, the Patriots. I like the Colts and the Cardinals. That's the team that I wanted to. We talked about the Colts in here, remember? I was like, yeah, that's a top five team. It's just quarterback is the question. If that quarterback backs solid, they're going to be fine. But I say what I want them. I want all Three to keep it going.

[Field Yates]

This is a really good litmus test game for the Patriots on Sunday.

[Mike Clay]

Big time.

[Field Yates]

Like if they win on the road. Tampa coming off of a buy even with their injuries, it's like, oh, baby. Yep. Because they've already beat Buffalo once. They do have a soft schedule the rest and I like, they don't determine the schedule. So. Yeah, they could be the real deal here.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, I like it.

[Daniel Dopp]

That's the second time you use the term real deal and I feel like there's a trademark on it. Yeah, yeah.

[Field Yates]

They can get 15 wins.

[Daniel Dopp]

That's right. 15% off their wins.

[Field Yates]

Technically they get.

[Daniel Dopp]

I love that.

[Field Yates]

It'll be unlikely quickly, but they could get to 15.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, let's. One thing I just really quickly want to say on. On starts of the week.

[Field Yates]

Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

I've scored more than 35 more points at the tight end position than you guys.

[Field Yates]

Well, so you know tight ends and.

[Daniel Dopp]

We don't feels like I know tight ends. Well, I think that's what it is.

[Field Yates]

Colston Loveland, Juwan Johnson decision this weekend and it sounds like Mike would go with Joanne Johnson.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, I have Johnson in. Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

Colston Loveland.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah. I mean guys, he's had one good game.

[Field Yates]

Yeah.

[Mike Clay]

Last week.

[Field Yates]

Yeah.

[Mike Clay]

Let's see. I have Johnson at 18.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah.

[Mike Clay]

I have loved in 24. Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

You have Colston Loveland at tight end 20.

[Mike Clay]

Forget we talked about this yesterday.

[Daniel Dopp]

Unbelievable. All right, let's dive into the mailbag. I can't even talk to you. Oh, yeah.

[Mike Clay]

Seven fantasy points per game lower than A.J. barner, Juwan Johnson, David Jo, Dalton Schultz.

[Field Yates]

I'm just doing a quick check for any late news that we haven't yet.

[Mike Clay]

By the way, I hope I'm wrong. I thought Loveland was a great late flyer this year in drafts, but he's very young player and he's just not playing a lot yet.

[Daniel Dopp]

For what it's worth, I also hope you're wrong because that would mean another start of the week loss and we. Maybe we get another haiku. Maybe we get something else this week. We'll do something fun with it. All right, let's dive into our first mailbag question from our chat.

[Mike Clay]

We need our results too.

[Field Yates]

Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

So yeah, you're right. We do. We do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, first question that we have from chat comes from Jacob Worth. As a first place team, would you take on the risk of Bucky Irving? I can get him for Zay Flowers and Jakori Crosby merit. Right now.

[Field Yates]

I'm going no Jacob, I Got some concerns there.

[Daniel Dopp]

Just because of the lack of news, because we don't know anything.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, I would exactly write. But it's too bad, because if it's like, he's going to practice next week and be a go, I'd probably take it. I mean, Flowers is a good, solid wide receiver, too, but Irving could be a league winner.

[Daniel Dopp]

You know, think about yes.

[Field Yates]

Jcm. Let me rephrase my answer. Like, if. If you're first and Zay Flowers doesn't really play for you, then it's a yes.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah, agreed.

[Mike Clay]

That's a fair point.

[Field Yates]

Now, if he's. If he's your second wide receiver right now, and it's going to leave you with a fairly decent sized hole, I'd be concerned. Yeah.

[Mike Clay]

I think about it from this perspective. Perspective which is I. You want to win the championship. Who helps you win the championship more? If you feel like if you just keep coasting with, say, Flowers as part of your team, like A.J.

[Daniel Dopp]

Brown does, that.

[Mike Clay]

Is that enough to get you over the top? But if Bucky Irving could be like, man, that's an elite winning.

[Daniel Dopp]

No, he could.

[Mike Clay]

I agree. Then. Then you do it. Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

If that happens, you make this trade. Now, let's say he makes the trade this weekend, or they make the trade this weekend. You throw Bucky Irving into ir. You now have two open roster spots. You're gonna have to head to waivers to be able to fill. I don't know what your waivers look like, but if you have a generous waiver wire as well, you're immediately gonna have two open spots.

[Mike Clay]

I like having.

[Daniel Dopp]

If you make that trade, that's where.

[Mike Clay]

I'm like, I'm gonna pick up Blake Corum or.

[Daniel Dopp]

If you liked him so much, you'd have brought up the point.

[Mike Clay]

Well, like a month ago or so I picked up. I was like, oh, you know, I'm gonna pick up. Well, my hunger was one. Yeah, but Rico Dowdle was just a random pick in some leagues, and now he's an RB one. I mean, those kind of moves can win your leagues.

[Field Yates]

The other thing that I will say is we've gotten to the point now where close to half the league has had its buy already, which means you could play the defense game a little bit here, too.

[Mike Clay]

Right.

[Field Yates]

It's just there. Besides the Broncos, there haven't been too many defenses that you're like, you are starting them absolutely unequivocally, no matter what. So, like, I've got right now, like, I'm. I'm playing that game with, like, the Browns and the packers in a league where like, like you kind of look at the matchups and how they flip off and they're actually not that bad. Yep.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, no doubt.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, next question from our YouTube chat, this one comes in from Trevor Wright. Trevor wants to know Justin Fields or J.J. mcCarthy as a streaming option this.

[Field Yates]

Week, can we agree that Justin Fields has the higher ceiling as a player for fantasy purposes?

[Daniel Dopp]

Easily, easily agree. But a much lower floor potentially is nervous.

[Field Yates]

Yeah.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah. I do have Mark Carthy just add. But honestly, I don't view the Ravens as a great matchup right now. I know statistically they are, but they're much better. So this is a close call. Of course Fields gets the Brown, so that might be another 10 to 7 game like we saw last night. Any. There's a, there's a. Almost zero chance JJ McCarthy gets benched. There's a really good chance that Fields gets benched.

[Daniel Dopp]

You know what? Maybe that's a better. Maybe that's a better tiebreaker for me. Is the idea that, like, which one of these could be a bench.

[Mike Clay]

Yes. But if you're a heavy underdog or maybe you started Brock Towers, maybe you're just like, I'm going to go for it. I'm just going to Hope for the 27 points from Fields.

[Daniel Dopp]

Generally, I don't look at projections because I don't know who does them here, but I don't think they're very good. Right.

[Field Yates]

Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

But if you are down by a bunch, then Justin Fields is the play. Right. But otherwise I would go, J.J. mcCarthy.

[Field Yates]

One of our great producers here, Christina, is somewhere in a very cool place right now because of her husband who has work in this very cool location. So I don't want to dox her right now, but she is, she. She's enjoying the show and she is a big believer in these haikus and the. Potentially, they should be a recurring segment for you, Mike.

[Daniel Dopp]

I agree. I thought you did a great job.

[Mike Clay]

All right. I have a lot of free time to do extra work. Oh, yeah, Totally be great.

[Field Yates]

Totally.

[Mike Clay]

No, I could do. Yeah, I could do that. Now. They're.

[Field Yates]

They're. You bought a couch. You should be good.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

What else?

[Mike Clay]

Settle into the couch, put on my glasses and hat and write poems.

[Field Yates]

No, like, did you buy that hat? Potentially something.

[Mike Clay]

I did buy this hat at Spirit Halloween a month ago for our Friends segment, which, by the way, if you watch FF now coming back this week, Club Trend back for FF now here in week.

[Field Yates]

Love it.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, well, let's find out if maybe we bring the haikus back. How do people feel about Mike's haikus on today's show? Which one of them led off the top? As a reminder, we had despair, trash and pain.

[Field Yates]

Wait, the best one got the fewest votes. What the heck?

[Daniel Dopp]

Pain comes in with 46% of the vote winning. Let's read pain one more time for the people.

[Mike Clay]

Payne, that was the last one, right?

[Daniel Dopp]

This was the Last 1.

[Mike Clay]

Need 10 points to win. 57 yard touchdown flag on the play.

[Daniel Dopp]

That's such a good one. I honestly, I think that's a really.

[Mike Clay]

Good idea in like five seconds, I swear.

[Field Yates]

I think you have a new calling.

[Daniel Dopp]

I think you do, too.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, I'm just trying to get rid of me. Is this like this?

[Field Yates]

No.

[Daniel Dopp]

I'm worried because I obviously, as you guys know, I've become the standup guy on the show, right? I do a lot of standup now and we know GPT and now I feel like you're going to become the poem guy. We're just going to break out stuff. So field, I want to know.

[Field Yates]

It's okay. It was.

[Daniel Dopp]

Are you the, like, what's your. What's your like feel? What's your bit?

[Field Yates]

I think I'm the hair guy.

[Daniel Dopp]

You're the hair. Oh, that's what it is. All right.

[Mike Clay]

Hair guy. Okay.

[Daniel Dopp]

You're the. You're the athlete. You did the mile, Right. You're the one that had the lungs to be able to get through a mile for us. So I appreciate that. Thank you.

[Mike Clay]

So instead of dad jokes, now I'm a poem guy. Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

Next thing, your new fantasy football now dad joke needs to be delivered as a haiku and you need to do both of them at the same time.

[Field Yates]

So I think when Wes Welker joined Twitter, longtime NFL wide receiver Wes Welker. His initial bio is something like professional tweeter who wasted 13 years playing receiver in the NFL.

[Daniel Dopp]

That might be you.

[Field Yates]

Professional haiku writer.

[Daniel Dopp]

That's right.

[Field Yates]

20 years as a fantasy football analyst.

[Mike Clay]

Love that. Thank you for punishing me.

[Daniel Dopp]

Thank you. Thank you for that.

[Field Yates]

You are now.

[Mike Clay]

They did not. No, I've written them since.

[Daniel Dopp]

They probably don't really care about your fantasy football matchups either, do they?

[Mike Clay]

Not really. My oldest is 11, so I got her first team this year and she's like, like, she was more interested in, like, changing the team name and stuff like that, but she's sort of following, like, who she has and stuff. So we're getting her there shirt. Team's very good.

[Daniel Dopp]

We're getting there.

[Field Yates]

Do you guys believe in changing, like, team name or logo or throughout the season?

[Daniel Dopp]

I only do it. I do it during the season if I need a.

[Field Yates]

My team sucks.

[Daniel Dopp]

Correct. Otherwise I let it roll.

[Field Yates]

Of course, Mike doesn't believe in.

[Mike Clay]

No, I agree in, like, shaking up the players, but the team name's not going to do anything.

[Daniel Dopp]

No shaking up the players.

[Mike Clay]

That needs to shake up. So. Wow. See, I need to. I need to shake that up. Maybe I should change the team name. Maybe that's the issue.

[Daniel Dopp]

That's it.

[Field Yates]

Briscoe best.

[Mike Clay]

That's right.

[Daniel Dopp]

That's what it is.

[Mike Clay]

It's all coming up. Chase Briscoe this year.

[Field Yates]

Love that name. Coming up, Chase Briscoe.

[Mike Clay]

Up. Chase Briscoe.

[Daniel Dopp]

Like that.

[Field Yates]

Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

Hey, this is a fun show. Thanks for doing this with us, guys.

[Field Yates]

Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

And for everybody hanging out with us, this was great. Make sure that you have fun watching the games this weekend. I promise they'll be more fun than the Thursday night football matchup we had yesterday. Don't forget to love each other. Today's show was presented by Little Caesars. And make sure that you are kind to yourself. Yourself. We love you guys. You deserve it. We'll see you here on Fantasy football now on Sunday morning.

[Mike Clay]

Peace.