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Field Yates
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Daniel Dopp
You're in the 6 010. What's good friends alongside Liz Loza and Feel Jates.
Field Yates
Hello, Field Jates Play a game on the offense. Okay. That's what was going on. Automatic first down. First focus Fantasy focus.
Daniel Dopp
That's amazing. My name is Daniel Dopp. Yeah, you know, this is. You'll tell you what, this is how it works. I didn't realize. I thought, I don't know if I could reach.
Field Yates
I'm just following the lay of game on us and I can't even speak. So. Perfect day to do a podcast.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, this is gonna be a very fun day. Obviously. Today we're doing a mock draft. In case you guys did not listen to the show yesterday, we decided why not get a good ranker in here. And so we decided to kick Mike out and we added Liz Loza.
Liz Loza
I always am a little nervous that Mike is gonna be upset with me because you tend to make this comparison and I am not asking for it. Mike, I think you're wonderful. We know that Mike is wonderful. Incredible ranker amongst so good.
Daniel Dopp
He does all the projections here. Our game would not exist without Mike Clay. So please know that we love him incessantly.
Field Yates
This is if there are. I actually find that there are a decent amount of wrestling fans in the world of fantasy football as well. One of the things about being a professional wrestler and I was watching the Unreal documentary on Netflix, it's basically a behind the scenes look at how the WWE operates. Is the that what makes a good heel. And for those unfamiliar with wrestling lingo, a heel is a bad guy in wrestling. Right. Babyface is a good guy anyways. The heel is the guy who is willing to basically like what matters most in wrestling is not whether it's positive or negative, it's are you getting a reaction and attention.
Daniel Dopp
Correct.
Field Yates
And that to me is like Mike is so ironclad in so many ways, including his capacity to just take the heat.
Liz Loza
Unflappable.
Field Yates
Unflappable. So even if we give him a lot of grief, my clay still motors on.
Daniel Dopp
It's not just us. I feel like he does a really Good job of channeling that energy in appropriate ways. Because when he has like a crazy take, like, I don't know, let's say maybe he said yesterday he wouldn't be surprised or he wouldn't be as surprised as most. If Jamar Chase finishes outside the top 20, I need people to listen to the whole thing. But good on him for not letting it get to you.
Field Yates
Yeah, totally.
Daniel Dopp
All right, guys.
Liz Loza
I hear that your energy is a luxury.
Daniel Dopp
I hear that.
Liz Loza
Edible resource.
Daniel Dopp
Did you hear that from.
Liz Loza
I mean, I might have stayed up late last night watching a different podcast.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, all right. All right.
Liz Loza
Worth every single.
Daniel Dopp
It was worth. All right. Well, if you know all of the.
Liz Loza
Concealer under my eyes right now.
Daniel Dopp
We're going to dive into a 12 team mock draft today. We're going to do things a little bit differently. Normally we do two quarter two, one running back, one quarterback. I'm. I got field going on right here.
Field Yates
You were watching too.
Liz Loza
You're tired. It's okay.
Daniel Dopp
Two running backs and two wide receivers. Today we're going to do three wide receivers, adding in a little extra depth at the pass catcher position. Still have a flex. And we're going to draft our first three bench spots as well. Today the picks that we are going to have, Liz has picked three, I have picked seven. And Fields, you were at the turn with pick 12. So that is going to be a ton of fun. We'll dive into that. But you know what else is also going to be a lot of fun? Going to the Bahamas with you beautiful people in just a couple of days. The ESPN Fantasy Fantasy Football Ultimate Draft weekend is back for year two. From August 21st through the 24th in the Bahamas, enjoy an oceanfront stay at the luxurious Baha Mar resort and exclusive events like our one of a Kind beach combine. You get to mingle with celebrity guests and NFL players throughout the weekend, including Todd Gurley, Golden Tate, and Kyle Rudolph. Then get insights from your favorite ESPN fantasy football experts. Liz Loza will be in attendance for all those wondering. So before you do that, you'll be able to ask us questions and then we will be drafting your squad at our epic live draft party. The draft party was so much fun last year. It's going to be a ton of fun. I can't wait to see you guys there and hopefully a bunch of our listeners there as well.
Field Yates
Shall we?
Daniel Dopp
I think so.
Field Yates
Let's do it, baby.
Daniel Dopp
Let's kick things off, especially because we started a little bit late. We're just going to dive right into the mock draft here.
Field Yates
Don't you worry people.
Daniel Dopp
All right.
Field Yates
Burying the lead, by the way. Tell me, Thirsty Kyle Sopi is in the building.
Daniel Dopp
I didn't want to say anything until we got to the end. Thirsty Kyle, they used to sit in this studio when we did the podcast in the other studio a couple years ago. But he's sitting right off screen right now.
Field Yates
He's going to be judging our mock draft in real time.
Liz Loza
Do you guys know why he's here?
Field Yates
I would hang out with Daniel Thumb here.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, is that what it is?
Liz Loza
Yes. He's fresh off of an episode of Facts versus Feelings. Love it.
Field Yates
Go check it out. If you haven't listened to that already.
Liz Loza
By the way, thank you.
Daniel Dopp
Yes. That'll be a ton of fun. All right, we're going to kick things off with this mock draft. Our very first drafter is up on the clock. We'll see when this thing gets rolling here. But until then, three receivers.
Field Yates
So again, three receivers, to reiterate. So we change your strategy a little.
Daniel Dopp
Bit or not really, given how deep the position is.
Field Yates
It definitely does. I mean, it just means that, like you, you know, in other mock drafts you've seen. I remember one of our prior mock drafts, I walked away with James Cook as my flex. Right. Far more likely that if I already have a couple of wide receivers and a couple of running backs filled out round five around six, I might continue to lean into wide receiver. There's such great depth that lottery tickets are still going to give you some optimism. But, yes, I will end up prioritizing wide receiver just a little bit more than normal in this track.
Daniel Dopp
We talked about this yesterday when I brought up Rashi Rice as one of the guys that I want to target in a league like this. Given that you have three wide receivers and a flex, does that push some of those question mark guys? Him and maybe Jordan Addison, Chris Godwin, does that maybe push him down the board a little bit for you, knowing that you have an extra position that you're starting every week or they kind of have the same value that you would in a 10 team league?
Field Yates
I mean, good question, by the way.
Liz Loza
Yeah, I think it is a good question. I think we're going to find out.
Field Yates
Waiting for a pick. By the way, we are really taking their time.
Daniel Dopp
There we go.
Liz Loza
Okay. Okay.
Field Yates
Jamar Chase has been taken.
Liz Loza
Big surprise. As far as the pass catchers, I want to make sure I don't miss my pick, so I'm going to let you.
Field Yates
Well, the good news is you have 8, 24 hours to make it Liz. So we'll alert you.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
You won't worry that Daniel is. Yes. Like in it. We were talking about this yesterday. Like in a 10 team league, you can afford to take that risk on a Rashi Rice. Are we going Rashi or Rashi? You've been saying Rashi. Is that.
Daniel Dopp
I don't know. I have no idea. No, I might be saying it wrong.
Field Yates
I just wanted to make sure this wasn't a Bijan situation. I believe it's Rashee Rice.
Daniel Dopp
It's Rashi and not Rashi. Okay. Rashi. All right.
Field Yates
So unless I have been gravely mistaken, rasheed rice. Yes. 12 team league. So it's a little bit larger than we were talking about when we were doing our must draft wide receivers. And then Also it's a 12 team league where 36 wide receivers are starting every single week.
Daniel Dopp
There's only 32 starting teams in the NFL.
Field Yates
Well, but with receivers, you have lots of teams. You know, the Bengals, the Vikings, the Bears, who have notable wide receiver duos who could contribute in fantasy this season. The Lions. The list goes on and on and on for sure. Uh, yes, I do think we'll see a tiny bit of a discount. Excuse me? A tiny bit of a. Of a weight for those guys like Rasheed Rice, like Chris Godwin, like Stefan Diggs, who are either coming off of an injury or have this question mark surrounding their availability. Availability for week one, by the way. We're. We're what, three. Three weeks away?
Daniel Dopp
Three weeks away.
Field Yates
The first game. Three weeks away. 21 days. Wow.
Daniel Dopp
So pumped for that. All right, first two picks were Jamar Chase and then Justin Jefferson. Liz, I feel like you just got gifted. Bijon Robinson at three.
Liz Loza
Absolutely. I mean, I believe that whoever was the second drafter certainly took your valuing wide receivers a little bit more strategy into play. I'm happy to take Bijon also because we have talked at length about the amount of depth at wide receiver. So right now it doesn't feel like I. In fact, maybe does that make running back a little bit more scarce?
Daniel Dopp
It could, it could. I mean, it depends on. I feel like in a 12 team league, I am more apt to take a running back early than a wide receiver.
Liz Loza
You and I like that anchor RB strategy and that's how we're approaching in a 10 team or a 12 team or a three wide receiver plus flex league.
Field Yates
I'm. I'm currently tweeting the link to the show right now, so.
Daniel Dopp
Perfect.
Field Yates
Dialed in on that.
Daniel Dopp
So you guys, I'm going to keep on going Field, you're going to pick at the end of the round, so you got time.
Field Yates
I'm just hanging.
Daniel Dopp
After Bajan came Saquon Barkley, then Jameer Gibbs and CD Lamb off the clock. I'm now on the clock at 7. A couple options I have in front of me. Christian McCaffrey, Puka Nukua, Malik Neighbors, Amon Ross, St. Brown or Ashton Genti. I'm going to go with the running back that I have been drafting all off season and that will be Christian McCaffrey.
Field Yates
I'm starting to pick up on your tendencies.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, yeah. I like some of the guys. I got to be honest, towards the back half of the first round, if I can still get CMC or Ashton Genti, even though I love all of these wide receivers, I'm kind of defaulting that way because I feel like I can likely get a Brian Thomas or maybe a Nico Collins or someone on the back end in the second. So we'll see how that plays out here. But I ended up going Christian McCaffrey, Malik neighbors comes off the board yet no one really surprising so far. It's just like a pretty average first round of a draft.
Field Yates
Yeah. I don't think you're going to see too much surprise here on this show with our mock drafts.
Liz Loza
Early, early, early rounds three and four might get.
Daniel Dopp
That's where you start to see some things. Yeah. Be a little bit different preferences. Yeah, absolutely. So after that we got. I took Christian McCaffrey, then it was Malik Neighbors, Amon Ross, St. Brown, Derek Henry comes off the board before Ashton Gen. Maybe the first surprise that we're going to see today.
Field Yates
Yeah. All right, so I'm on the clock here at pick number 12 and again it's three wide receivers. You're sitting there saying to yourself and a reminder when you're picking on the. The extremes, the ends you have to make decisions, understanding that if you really want a player, you better bet on that player not being available when you pick the next time around.
Daniel Dopp
Yep.
Field Yates
I'm just doing a little bit of math here. Right.
Daniel Dopp
A little bit of calculating. We really need my clay here for this.
Liz Loza
I do appreciate that point though because sometimes we talk about letting value fall to you and you should just take the best player on the board. But sometimes you do need to reach because of your draft slot. And so I feel like all of this draft strategy forces us to talk out of both sides of our mouths a little bit.
Field Yates
So I just by the way, made my two picks and again it's a three receiver draft So a little bit more emphasis, emphasis on wide receivers in this draft. That being said on, there's also not very many good running backs once you get past like the first, you know, 20 or so. And when you're looking at what who could be available at, let's call it somewhere at pick 36 and 37 for me, which would be my round three and round four selections, then you're, you're talking about like a potential major drop at running back. So what I did is I split the atom a little bit. I took Puka Nuku at 12 and I took Devon HN at 13.
Daniel Dopp
It feels like you got a little bit of a value on Puka given people's maybe fear of the Stafford back injury. Are you, does that bother you? Are you adjusting?
Field Yates
Not yet. You know, I'm really trusting the lead of like first of all, Sean McVay and I know Stefania would agree with this, is amongst the most transparent coaches in the NFL with his injury updates. Shefty has been pretty consistent as well. Like if the Rams had to play a game soon, I think they would expect Matthew Stafford to be there. I'll just say this, I get it. He's old. What's the old expression too? Like no one used to have a bad back.
Liz Loza
Yeah, nobody ever used to have a bad back.
Field Yates
Yeah, this dude is tough as crap. Like, I mean Daniel, of course you recall the legendary moments throughout his Detroit career where that Browns game found away, you know, dislocated shoulder, city tough, fried into Daniel's arms on the beach. When I did that to my Matthew Stafford was like, let me keep playing football because I'm a beast. So yes, Stafford, I'm, I'm betting on him being available for week one.
Daniel Dopp
I agree with you there. I have not decided to move either of these Rams wide receiver down my board yet. All right, so you went Puka and Devon Achan. Next one's off the board. Brian Thomas Jr. Drake London, A.J. brown. Man, I'm hoping one of these wide receivers are going to fall to me. And then Brock Bowers, I'm back on the clock and I had Nico Collins fall to me all the way to pick 18. That is the guy that I know thirsty Kyle Sopi has been in on all off season. So for me to get Christian McCaffrey and Nico Collins right now, first two rounds of a, of a 12 team league, I'm thrilled with that, man, I'm pumped right now.
Field Yates
By the way, Dave Presley, one of our producers on our show, he gets credit because he is like, every time we're in one of these mocks, he loves to throw some curveballs our way. He does. And he was the one that did not take Pajan. So shout out Dave for always being ahead of the curve with. You're good for the content.
Daniel Dopp
Yes. After that, after I took Nico Collins, my guy Chase Brown came off the board ahead of Josh Jacobs, ahead of Bucky Irving. Did you think about him ahead of Jonathan Taylor? I did not think about him there just because I had already grabbed a running back.
Field Yates
And Christian Dave, who was also picking on that one.
Daniel Dopp
Probably was. Probably was.
Liz Loza
Well, I'm on the clock now.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, you are.
Liz Loza
And I need a wide receiver. One. But there's Trey McBride available if I want to invest in an island position.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. Brock Bauer is already off the board. We've already cracked the seal on the island position of tight end.
Liz Loza
Yeah, I. I think I want to also throw a curveball here.
Field Yates
Yeah, do it.
Liz Loza
And I'm going to completely eschew what we talked about in the beginning and take another running back, and I'm going to take Bucky Irving.
Field Yates
Did you just say completely shoe?
Liz Loza
Eschew.
Field Yates
Eschew. What is a shoe? Is that a French shoe?
Daniel Dopp
A shoe.
Liz Loza
No, it means step aside, walk around.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, okay. Got it, got it. If you could use smaller words on the show for the rest of the day, that would be great for us, Liz. All right. So you decide to go that route. I love it. Bucky Irving. John. Josh Allen came off the board just before that, and then Kyron Williams. I mean, I'm a little bit surprised Josh Jacobs is still on the board here at the end of this season.
Liz Loza
I'm not. I'm not as high as everyone, Josh. No. I feel like the workload last year was so intense, and obviously Marshawn Lloyd's durability issues have been helping him, we would assume, continue to eat, but I'm just worried about a breakdown.
Daniel Dopp
Honestly, I felt that way. And then I remembered that when he played for the Raiders, it felt like they just did the exact same thing. I mean, didn't they just always give him a huge.
Liz Loza
His efficiency dipped considerably from that first year with the Raiders where we h. Handled that 300 plus workload, to the second year.
Field Yates
I got to be honest with you. He. You're holding up the honor of the Mike Clay seat right now.
Daniel Dopp
That's right. That's right.
Liz Loza
I. I did the. I did the research like I did. I worked the numbers. I looked at that.
Daniel Dopp
You know that before. All right, all right. Nothing wrong. With that.
Liz Loza
So when you find the data and you work it, it's like this amazing. I feel like Sherlock Holmes. Like, I was like, oh, my gosh. I found this. That's my favorite thing about being an analyst, honestly, is the gumshoeing of it. Uh, but I'm.
Field Yates
Josh Jacobs is available when you're on the clock, by the way.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, my gosh. Okay, so you took Bucky Irving. Since then, it was Kyron Williams, Trey McBride, Ladd McConkey and T H Lady.
Liz Loza
I did. I did not take lads up. Lad went just before T. Higgins, who I was hoping I might get a shot at. And I am going to now draft Devonte Adams. Whoa.
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Liz Loza
Pretty high. Two running backs.
Daniel Dopp
Okay, well if you already have two running backs, then I guess that makes a little bit more sense. Maybe you're not the one. I got to tell you, if it falls to me here in a couple of picks, I'm ending this slide. Rasheed Rice comes off the board already as well. That feels.
Field Yates
Dave pick.
Daniel Dopp
That feels. Yeah. A little early given all of the uncertainty around suspension.
Field Yates
However, this is early. Like let's just call it what it is. He's a, he's a great wide receiver and you might see if he's back in week seven, then you might be talking about a guy who by week, you know, eight or nine, we're ranking as a top five wide receiver.
Daniel Dopp
Yep.
Field Yates
But during the fantasy football regular season, you're getting seven weeks without Rasheed Rice, most likely six for the suspension, plus his bi week in week 12.
Daniel Dopp
Yep.
Field Yates
So that's, that's a lot of time to miss.
Daniel Dopp
It's a lot of time. Lot of time. Wide receiver is the deepest position to be able to help fill it in. However, in a 12 team league and in a three wide receiver league, it makes it even tougher from that position.
Field Yates
Look at Dave, by the way. Look at that.
Daniel Dopp
I gotta make a decision here. The guys that are staring me in the face right now, Tyreek Hill and then all the running backs. James Cook, maybe Kenneth Walker. Feels a little early for Kenneth Walker and a couple of quarterbacks. If I want to go that route. I think I'm going to take Tyreek Hill though.
Liz Loza
I was just wondering when that slide. Are you also a little bit worried about Tyreek Hill entering his age 31 season? I'm not off of last year's dip.
Daniel Dopp
Not, not worried if I can say that. But I'm not worried enough that I wouldn't buy what I feel like is the value. It kind of feels like his ADP has appropriately settled coming off of what was a really difficult season last year and the fact that he is another year older. I mean, his game is predicated on speed. Right. Doing all the things that he needs. He needs to be tired.
Field Yates
One this offseason. Right.
Liz Loza
In the absence of John Smith, should help fix any of the volume concerns that I don't actually think are concerned.
Daniel Dopp
You know, one of the sentences I never thought someone would say in 2025, again, the absence of Johnny Smith will mean that Tyreek Hill can go back to the value we thought he was.
Liz Loza
That is. That is. You've heard. I mean, I. People are like, well, what about. What about Tyreek's volume? I was like, I don't think Tyreek Hill is. As a quiet gentleman, I don't think he's a very. I don't. I don't think that he's.
Daniel Dopp
Squeaky wheel.
Liz Loza
Maybe it's getting the grease.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, I agree with that. I agree.
Field Yates
I'm on the clock again here at the end of round three. A reminder, I took Devon Hn and Puka Nukua with my first and second round picks, which means I still have two more wide receiver spots to fill out in my starting lineup.
Daniel Dopp
You just had a huge quarterback run, too.
Field Yates
Right before you. Back room. Right, right. Right before me. And a reminder that again, picking on the extremes. I have to expect that a lot of the guys that are near the top of my queue right now will be way gone by the time I pick next. So I'm going to do little Kenneth Walker iii, who I do like, and George Kittle, because there's no. I mean zero. Negative zero. Is that a word? Negative zero.
Daniel Dopp
Negative zero. I don't.
Field Yates
Negative 100% chance will be anywhere close to available when I pick next. So George Kittle fills up my tight end spot. I'm going to lean into the wide receiver depth here. I'm sort of bucking my own advice earlier on in the podcast. It's like, you know.
Liz Loza
Yes.
Field Yates
Well, Liz, you know what the reality is, the best draft strategy is to be dynamic.
Liz Loza
Well, I hear you have to zig when other people zag.
Daniel Dopp
Yes, I've heard that as well. All right, so just a quick recap. I took Tyreek Hill. After that, James Cook, then Lamar Jackson, Jaden Daniels and Jalen Hurts. That little quarterback run I just mentioned before. Fields pick. Field took Kenneth Walker III and George Kittle and then Omari and Hampton, Marvin Harrison Jr. And Alvin Camara off the board. We've got one more spot until I am on the clock. Back at pick seven of the fourth round, Garrett Wilson comes off the board and now I'm kind of in that spot where the wide receiver. This is where it starts to not feel as great. Yeah, right. Terry McLaurin, Mike Evans, DK Metcalf. Different tier of wide receivers, the running backs that are here. Chuba Hubbard, James Conner, Breeze Hall. Different kind of tier at the running back spot because I would have taken George Kittle had he come here to me at this point, I would have grabbed that tight end so I could have one of the top three guys. But field, because he grabbed him. I think I'm going to go a different direction and take what is the last quarterback of my tier one positions and go with Joe Burrow here. Hey, I'm going to just lock up that position and decide I'm going to grab a guy that I believe is going to lead his offense to another season where they're having to average over 30 points a game because you're just going to have to throw the ball.
Liz Loza
Very different than your strategy on Tuesday during the televised mock.
Daniel Dopp
It was. Yeah, yeah.
Liz Loza
I love that you're shaking it up, trying that. This is what mocking is for. We can find new strategies, we can discover new things that we hadn't thought of.
Daniel Dopp
And everything.
Field Yates
Yeah, you go.
Daniel Dopp
Everything is different with every draft because it's like sometimes you just get lucky that the right person falls to you. I felt like Damian Woody. I don't want to say got lucky, but like he pounced on value with guys falling to him in that draft. And sometimes. Yeah, sometimes it just happens.
Field Yates
YouTube poll. Can we.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, let's do it.
Field Yates
Or question however you guys want to tee this up to the YouTube chat. Is Joe Burrow part of the tier one of quarterbacks or. No, Mike is more of the mind that it's 1, 2, 3, 4, meaning 4 in some order. Lamar, Josh, Jaden, Jalen and Joe Burrows. The next tier. You and I have both been more of like tier one. Liz.
Liz Loza
I also think that Joe Burrow is the first quarterback in the second tier.
Field Yates
Okay, chat thoughts on that.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, you're.
Field Yates
You are tier two.
Daniel Dopp
She is absolutely channeling inner Mike Clay in that seat is what. Is. What's.
Liz Loza
I'm not.
Field Yates
My OTD for this. My OTD for this guy.
Liz Loza
Um, it. So I decided to go running back. Running back and not really care about the wide receiver, thinking I'd have more depth. And now I'M in a position where Chuba Hubbard, James Connor, Breeze hall are all available. And the next wide receiver would be DK Metcalf. DJ Moore, Xavier Worthy, who Taylor Swift was very excited that the Chiefs drafted. Of course, people weren't aware. So I kind of feel if I'm being like transparent, please, in an educationally appropriate way, I may be messed up. Like, I maybe should have taken a wide receiver and this is sometimes what happens. Like, well, I don't know. I could have taken Breeze hall here and stacked my wide receiver position a little bit better.
Daniel Dopp
But drafts work sometimes.
Liz Loza
I'm not worried about the fact that.
Daniel Dopp
Sounds like you're worried.
Liz Loza
I'm a little bit worried.
Daniel Dopp
You weren't say one thing. I feel a different thing though.
Liz Loza
I, I, I'm, I'm going to. So shoot. I'm going to take DK Metcalf, but I actually wanted to take DJ Moore, but did decided not to do that. There is this emotional connection to Roma Dunze because I believe in the breakout. Probably might have been a little bit more smart to take DJ Moore, but I decided to go with met gaff and play with my heart a little.
Field Yates
Can I share a story right now?
Daniel Dopp
Yes, please.
Field Yates
Daniel just passed me his phone and he was like, look into my camera right now. Because I had a gigantic booger in my nose.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, well, it just.
Liz Loza
Oh, is that what I was like, what is happening right now?
Field Yates
So I got it taken care of.
Daniel Dopp
I was waiting until we went to a one shot of Liz. I didn't want to. I didn't want people to know. But I appreciate you.
Field Yates
I didn't brand your.
Liz Loza
I thought you guys were like, she made a really bad pick.
Field Yates
No, no, no, no.
Daniel Dopp
That was not it. No, Daniel didn't. Just looking out for my friend, but.
Field Yates
He was looking out for me.
Daniel Dopp
That's right.
Liz Loza
Sweet.
Field Yates
Dude. I've got a three and a two year old. There's nothing gross to me right now. Nothing.
Daniel Dopp
Nothing. That's just not how it works when you have little kids like that. Yes. Yeah. All right, so you decide.
Field Yates
Heat some sand. That would be like a Wednesday. That's what we do on Wednesdays.
Daniel Dopp
Liz went with DK Metcalf.
Liz Loza
Now I'm going to have to eat it again because. No, not sand. My, my words. Crow if you will. DJ More is still available and I am going to have to draft him and I'm excited about it and I feel like he is under. This is a part of fantasy football. Like your brain says to. The fact is that DJ Moore is going to be is going to enter the season as the Bears wide receiver one.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Liz Loza
But my heart feelings. Yeah, my feelings want Roma Dunze to unlock this alpha status. Yet if I am channeling my inner my clay, I am staying present from the neck up and allowing the value of DJ More to fall to me.
Daniel Dopp
All right, so after I'm going to recap a couple of these picks. Liz, you ended up going with.
Liz Loza
Actually, it's fire. My. My draft is fire, right?
Daniel Dopp
Your draft is fire. That's right.
Liz Loza
I love it.
Daniel Dopp
So you took DK Metcalf, then Xavier Worthy, Breece Hall, James Connor, Chuba Hubbard came off the board. By the way, you decided to go with DJ Moore and then Jared Goff. Let's go ahead of Baker Mayfield or Patrick Mahomes. That was not my pick.
Liz Loza
Who is this agent of chaos and.
Field Yates
Then Baker Mayfield is new to the staff. By the way, shout out to Blair. Welcome to Focus Family. And I like it. I don't know if Blair is from Detroit or anything, but I like it.
Daniel Dopp
I like a little spiciness.
Field Yates
He's showing some respect to Daniel.
Daniel Dopp
Do all right. So then Calvin Ridley comes off the board. I'm on the clock. Couple guys that I'm looking at here. Joe Mixon, DeAndre Swift. I'm not looking at Joe Mixon. He's just the guy at the top of the board. But I'm very likely passing on him. DeAndre Swift, Zay Flowers, Devonta Smith, Jalen Waddle. We got a nice little like tearing of wide receivers here. I think I'm actually going to go with DeAndre Swift. He's the next highest running back that I have on my board. I love the potential of him in this Ben Johnson led offense. I don't think he's going to be Jameer Gibbs light, but I do believe given the production that we have seen from him in other offenses, I don't have a lot of fear in Roshan Johnson. Kyle Menung guy like stealing huge amounts of volume from him. So as an RB2 here in the fifth round, I'm going to lack up DeAndre Swift.
Field Yates
And then Jamo went one pick after you. Were you thinking about Jamo?
Daniel Dopp
We have a bunch of Michigan people in this league right now. I feel like I'm drafting in our Michigan men league back home field.
Field Yates
Think that it would be. I feel like my general rule of life is that if you have more people from Michigan on your team, you're in better shape.
Daniel Dopp
I mean they're just. They were the highest scoring offense in football Last year they had a spicy one from ten.
Field Yates
Our guy Rafa out there in LA to Cooper Cup.
Daniel Dopp
Cooper cup comes off way early. Love that. Okay.
Field Yates
Might have been a. But again, Rafa's picking at whatever. Play pick 11 or something, so you have to do it. I'm up. I've already taken two running backs, so I need a flex spot.
Daniel Dopp
Where do you two running backs feel?
Field Yates
My two running backs are Devon Hn and Kenneth Walker iii.
Daniel Dopp
Okay. Yep. And then you got Pukinakua and George Kittle. Love that.
Field Yates
I'll tell you what I'm doing right now. I'm drafting one of my favorite wide receivers, Jalen Waddle.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, you talked about him the last time we drafted, too.
Field Yates
And you know what else I'm doing?
Daniel Dopp
Don't do it.
Field Yates
Trevia Henderson. Why not?
Daniel Dopp
Oh, you're doing it.
Field Yates
I've already got two running backs, so he'll be my. He'll be a flex option. But this is to illustrate that ADP data throughout the month of August is so subject to change. He went 40th in our TV mock.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, he did.
Field Yates
Graz took him with the final pick of the fourth round the other night, which I'm a big Trayvon Henderson guy. It feels like every day you're reading something about how he's just. Just looking clearly like the Patriots most explosive offensive player.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
Like, regardless of running back, tight end, wide receiver. So good things continue to happen on the Trayvon Henderson front. More thoughts on him because he definitely has become a draft crush. He's just, you know, he's a really explosive player who I don't think will handle 20 carries a game, but if he gets 12 to 15, find that sweet spot of a number of opportunities could have a big impact.
Daniel Dopp
And it definitely just feels like he's one of those rookies that towards the second half of the season, you know, if things go the way that we think. Exactly like you're. You're kind of buying some of that. So since that pick field you went Jalen Waddle and Trevion Henderson, then TJ Hawkinson comes off the board, then Sam Laporta, Joe Mixon and Aaron Jones. I am bummed because I wanted one of those two tight ends to fall to me right here, and neither of them did. So back on the clock for me, I'm probably going to go with a wide receiver here because I already have two running backs. My wide receivers, as a reminder, are Nico Collins and Tyreek Hill. And I believe that I'm going to go with George Pickens here My friends, I was.
Liz Loza
There goes my cue. So it's interesting, I had both of those tight ends that you mentioned, Hawkinson and laporta. It is interesting that Hawkinson went one spot ahead of laporta, because that is different than our consensus rankings.
Daniel Dopp
Yep.
Liz Loza
And then I also had George Pickens next in my queue. So we are on a similar wavelength. Not to be.
Daniel Dopp
Not. Not unsurprising by that.
Liz Loza
Right. There's some other depth here. I'm okay with this.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, you're going to have it. You got three more picks until we come back to you. And you're going to have a handful of people to be able to choose from.
Liz Loza
There goes Rome. That's fine.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, this will be. And it'll be interesting. Do you have a quarterback already, Liz?
Liz Loza
I do not.
Daniel Dopp
You do not. Is that something that you would likely target here at this point if you didn't get one of your top guys? Are you just going to maybe wait at the position?
Liz Loza
Okay, now I'm waiting. I'm probably going to wait until round eight to ten.
Daniel Dopp
We'll see. Yeah, we'll see where the value falls.
Liz Loza
We'll just say it out loud. If you guys are going to snipe me, then it's. It's a good lesson anyway. Yeah, it's a good lesson in staying nimble. Oh, I'm on the clock in one pick.
Daniel Dopp
All right, so Roma Dunes, they came off the board. Then RJ Harvey.
Field Yates
I like that one right there.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
You know why? And I'm. You know what? You know what? Hold on. Table that thought. It's called this tease in the business. We have a big running back heavy show tomorrow that I'll dive into. Why I like R.J. harvey.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, I like that. I like it. Field. All right. It'll be interesting to see. I feel like, again, this is that spot where you start having to make some decisions based on your rasher construction. And David and Joku comes off the board. Now I think people are starting to feel this, like, tight end squeeze. So it's like, let me get the last little bit of this position.
Liz Loza
This is what happens, right. This is when you sort of freak out and you're like, oh, no, I don't have a tight end. I just. I think you have to woo. Saw through this. And now I am able to snag one of my favorite rookies in this year's class, Teteroa McMillan.
Daniel Dopp
Ooh.
Liz Loza
I think he's going to be beast. I love the chemistry that he and Bryce Young have been establishing and displaying Over. Over camp. I'm really high on him. I think you also believe him to be quite a talented X option.
Field Yates
Who was the name again?
Daniel Dopp
Hetero McMillan.
Field Yates
Hetero McMillan. Yeah, I agree on that. I got distracted.
Liz Loza
That's okay.
Field Yates
I was admiring my team, which I don't even know if I like it that much. I'm a big fan of Ted Roman billing. Big fan.
Daniel Dopp
You got so many. The problem with picking 12 field is sometimes you can accidentally disappear in the middle of drafts while you're, like, looking stuff up because you're like, I've got 25 picks until it gets back to me.
Field Yates
I mean, I. Yeah, my mom texted me and.
Daniel Dopp
Okay, well, that's very nice of her. Yeah.
Liz Loza
Shield's got boogers. He's got his mom blowing up his phone.
Daniel Dopp
So cute.
Liz Loza
It is a Thursday for you, friend.
Field Yates
Hey.
Daniel Dopp
All right, well, since we took Tet McMillan, Jerry Judy comes off the board. Then Patrick Mahomes finally comes off here in the seventh round. And then Travis Hunter, one of those guys that we have had a lot of differing opinions on, even chat has gone back and forth as to whether or not they would draft him or not. For what it's worth, I do want to say this a little bit earlier on in the show. 61% of our YouTube chat does, in fact, believe that Joe Burrow is a tier one quarterback.
Field Yates
61% of the chat.
Daniel Dopp
They know ball. Yeah, that's right. All right, Liz Loza back on the clock. And Travis Kelsey comes off the board right before you again, feeling that tight end squeeze. You're just gonna keep waiting at the position at this point?
Liz Loza
Yeah. Breton Strange probably isn't getting drafted, and.
Daniel Dopp
Not until you don't mind a stream.
Liz Loza
I don't mind a stream. Also, my boy Chig is probably gonna be available, so I'm never sweating the tight end position. I don't mind streaming it if I have to. It'll be a headache. But that is part of the job of managing a team. I think I'd like to add some running back depth here. And I'm gonna add Tony Pollard. He only had five rushing touchdowns last year. Um, but with the Tajie Spears injury, I think that Pollard should at least start hot. And then you know that a week two problem will happen in week two.
Daniel Dopp
That's right. Yeah. We'll figure it out once you get there. Okay. I don't.
Field Yates
I think about Tony Pollard.
Daniel Dopp
I like Tony Pollard this year.
Field Yates
Boring, but good.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, that's it.
Field Yates
I don't know why I emphasize the boring more than the good part.
Liz Loza
But yeah, I mean that allows for value.
Field Yates
That's why he's going in what, round seven as opposed to, you know, round five or, or four or five.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
He seems on paper in line for close to 300 touches once again, honestly.
Daniel Dopp
And in this offense it does feel like if he's going to touch the ball that much, I almost don't care like that it's a rookie quarterback or trying to figure out the offense at this point, you're not going to find very many running backs that will just have the sheer volume that you know he's going to get.
Field Yates
I described him this way previously. He's a great RB3.
Daniel Dopp
Yes.
Field Yates
Like you need them to fill in because your players on a buy or banged up. Awesome. Would you love to be starting Tony Pollard in a lineup that doesn't have like also dominant wide receivers or a great quarterback or tight end? Probably not in the playoffs, but totally useful. He's a great innings eater during the season.
Daniel Dopp
So.
Field Yates
Disappointed.
Daniel Dopp
Well, I'm disappointed because David freaking Presley decided to draft David freaking Montgomery right before I was on the clock. I was going to grab him as my third running back here. I recognize it would technically be a flex position. A couple of wide receivers I have in front of me. Chris Godwin probably going to wait there. Jacoby Myers, Stefan Diggs, Matthew Golden, Jordan Addison. There's some question marks there.
Field Yates
You know what?
Daniel Dopp
I'm going to go with a third running back and it's going to be Isaiah Pacheco.
Field Yates
Like that one a lot.
Daniel Dopp
I'm in on. On buying the dip on Isaiah Pacheco. I don't think he was fully healthy once he came back from that broken fibula last year. I think he kind of leaned down, lost some of that mass that he needs for that angry running style. And they did not add anyone this year in the backfield. That makes me super nervous. It's still a Patrick Mahomes led offense and I think that they're going to be in the like near the goal line a lot.
Liz Loza
First two weeks of the season. I believe he cleared 16 fantasy points, including in the game in which he was injured.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Liz Loza
So, you know, I always, I think of Stefania a lot because he did probably come back from injury too soon for real football reasons.
Daniel Dopp
Correct. And they were trying to win a Super Bowl. They wanted to like kind of bring him back, see what they had.
Liz Loza
Exactly. And so he wasn't efficient. He absolutely struggled. But now he's been healthy and we have to start a new slate.
Daniel Dopp
I think That, I mean, last year we were looking at him as a top 12 to 15 running back. Right now you're able to get him as a top fringe RBI running back. Like, I think you're still getting really good value on Isaiah Pacheco. So since Pacheco came off the board, we got Jacoby Myers, Tyrone Tracy, J.K. dobbins and Ricky Pearsall. Field Gates. And now you're on the clock for two to close out the seventh and start the eighth.
Field Yates
Okay, here we go. Chris Godwin is amongst the players that are notably available at the wide receiver spot. Right. You know, again, certainly feels like there's a chance that Chris Godwin's going to have to wait to begin the season. And in this case, because I myself have waited at wide receiver, I'm going to double dip at wide receiver, but it's not going to be including Chris Goblin. I'm going to go with Matthew Golden.
Daniel Dopp
Yep. Okay.
Field Yates
And Stefan Diggs. I had a feeling golden continues to trend upward. I got two Patriots right now. Ooh, interesting. Golden continues to trend up. We've talked about him a lot recently. Yesterday was a good example of such a. The packers are so banged up at wide receiver and maybe the packers think there's like an equitable stance to or an equal equitable approach, a wide receiver that makes the most sense. And we just. You get some and you get some and you get some and you get some. But it does feel like this was a much different offseason approach from Green Bay, who famously, of course, has not taken a wide receiver or had not taken a wide receiver in the first round since Jawan Walker, Javon Walker, excuse me, back in like 2004. So you break a 21 year streak and take a player 22nd overall good enough for me to use my. I guess in this case the very first pick of the ninth round. Last pick of the eighth round on Matthew Golden.
Daniel Dopp
Couple of running backs come off the board right after that field. Jalen Warren and then Cam Scatter Boo ahead of Caleb Johnson.
Field Yates
Hmm.
Daniel Dopp
How do you feel about Cam Scatter Boo ahead of Caleb Johnson here?
Field Yates
So I'm not going to skewer the pick by any stretch like it seems like. And I'm following the reporting here, including that from the great Jordan Renan who covers the Giants here for us at Ian. He has definitely been leaning towards Tyrone Tracy having the job. I tend to think though that when you take a guy in the fourth round and the only competition in the backfield is Tyrone Tracy, what fifth round pick Last year. Like eventually both of these guys are going to be on the field of these eventually, right? It's not like Tyrone. I don't expect Tyrone Tracy to have the job to start the season and dominate 8020 in terms of percentage of touches for the entirety of the year. We talked about some of the warning signs with Caleb Johnson yesterday. Didn't seem like this guy's been having a great preseason, but he probably has a bigger role out of the gates than Cam Scatter Boo does. The upside of Scatterboo, though, I do think is super. You've seen the headlines, heard the debates. The three point ball has created a monotonous rhythm to the game. Has the three pointer ruined basketball? And how did we get here? The rise of the three point shot can be partially traced to an eccentric Kansas genius named Martin Manley, whose skill story didn't turn out quite the way he imagined. I decided I wanted to have one.
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Liz Loza
I worry about either of the New York running backs is partially the offensive line and the offense in general. That fair worries. Schedule is not great either. Tyrone Tracy though. Five fumbles and five drops last year. So there's an assumption, right, that assumes Scatter Boo stays healthy. He'll be able to Wally Pip, Tyrone Tracy. That's just a lot of ifs for me right now. We're drafting, we're like oh, this is going to be awesome. And we are thinking about not week three when we are in it right when we're in week three and scatter Boo still hasn't gone off. He's sitting there languishing. Perhaps you're waiting for that post. You know right now Halloween doesn't seem so far away in week three. Even though it is closer. Halloween feels like an eternity away.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, I think that's fair. And you look at this situation and I'll move on and make my pick here after this. But Tyrone Tracy I don't think was expected to be what he was last year. I mean Devin Singletary was supposed to be the guy right? Like they the the Giants wanted.
Liz Loza
Devin still getting first team reps. We should say in camp.
Field Yates
Yes, Singletary is.
Liz Loza
He was last week. The majority of them. Majority. Tracy and Singletary were getting first team.
Daniel Dopp
Rep. Why field it's not my job to run the team. I don't know. I have no idea.
Field Yates
No quarterback yet for me. We've got three picks left. So I would need to get a quarterback at some point with another one coming off the board being Bo Nix. Love that value there on Bo Nick.
Daniel Dopp
I agree. Love getting Bo Nicks there. I am actually going to draft somebody that's attached to Bo Nix because if I've waited on the tight end spot, this is the last guy that I feel comfortable with my starting tight end tier and that is the joker in this offense of Evan and Groom.
Field Yates
Like it.
Daniel Dopp
I'm gonna grab him as my tight end. Not a big touchdown score. But if I had to wait as long as I did, he's a guy that should be probably the number two pass catcher in this offense. He'll at least I think have the second most targets in this offense behind Cortland Sutton. Marvin Mims may have some really great deep value and he may continue to come on this year. But right now with all things being equal, I am in on Evan Ingram as a late round tight end which is why I grabbed him here in the eighth.
Field Yates
All righty.
Liz Loza
I think Evan Ingram probably flirt with around 80 grabs this year. Yeah, I mean the PPR friendly format.
Daniel Dopp
And honestly again when you're trying to be able to just find good value, you can either there gets to a point.
Liz Loza
This was in my queue, Daniel.
Daniel Dopp
Okay.
Liz Loza
My queue.
Daniel Dopp
I'm trying. What's happening right now is thirsty Kyle actually has a mirror over your shoulder so I can see your laptop from behind you so that I can just wipe out whoever you have in the queue. Since I took Evan Ingram Juwan Jennings comes off the board second San Francisco 49ers wide receiver. And then Chris Godwin. The fall ends here in the eighth round. Again, because he's hurt, he will be able to go on your IR spot, which at least is nicer than some of those other guys.
Field Yates
This is a totally reasonable landing spot here for Chris. Chris Godwin, like, good value there by player five, whoever that is. That is. Q. Shout out. Q.
Daniel Dopp
All right. And then Michael Pittman Jr. There's been a little bit of a talk up about Michael Pittman Jr. Mike.
Field Yates
Is doing his thing here. Mike Clay is talking about Michael Pittman Jr. Favorably. And it's. And it's working out. And I, by the way, another reasonable.
Liz Loza
Pick already dealing with a groin injury. Michael Pittman Jr. Is after he gutted through injury last season, he's already dealing with a groin injury.
Field Yates
But this is this one of those, like, you know, it's training camp. Take a week off and we'll see.
Liz Loza
Sure. I mean, he's not a player. I think that has been the picture of health over his career.
Daniel Dopp
That's a fair statement.
Liz Loza
And if he is the possession option in that offense, I feel like Tyler Warren can become the possession option.
Daniel Dopp
I don't know what to think about. I mean, they've got so many pass.
Liz Loza
Catchers and I'm talking about like a possession receiver, though.
Field Yates
The Colts are going to become the next. If only they had a quarterback team.
Daniel Dopp
Yes.
Field Yates
Broncos were that for a while. Like, we, we've seen that. Like that. That is a. Like a trend that sort of rips through the NFL. The Colts are going to become that team because you're going to sit there at the end of this season. If both quarterbacks play to expectation, which are pretty low right now, and be like, well, they have Josh Downs and Michael Pittman JR Tyler Warren and AD Mitchell and Jonathan Taylor and some pieces along the offensive line. If only they get a quarterback and that quarterback might be.
Daniel Dopp
Stop.
Field Yates
I don't know who.
Daniel Dopp
All right, all right.
Field Yates
Quarterbacks in the draft.
Daniel Dopp
All right. Liz, you ended up coming after Michael Pittman Jr.
Field Yates
Round nine.
Daniel Dopp
You grabbed your first quarterback.
Liz Loza
I did. I grabbed Kyler Murray, which is a strategy I've been employing. I try to keep things loose and different, but I couldn't avoid the position anymore.
Field Yates
You like E. Kyler?
Liz Loza
I do. I just like the rushing upside. I'm not, you know, I actually feel like Bo Nix will probably be a more prolific passer this season than Kyler Murray. If we're looking at those two quarterbacks who have gone back to back. Not, you know, in the queue, but in terms of position. But 29% of Kyler's fantasy points came from his rushing production last year. And if that's going to be a greater point of emphasis. And we're hoping that Marvin Harrison Jr. Does not make fields sad.
Field Yates
Yes.
Liz Loza
And in fact takes the leap we're anticipating into existence.
Field Yates
You just make a short joke, by the way, about Kyler. You were doing a little. Okay.
Daniel Dopp
Because he likes. Because he scoots along so fast of the desert. His legs look like they're moving super quick. He's a really good rushing quarterback. He's not great, I don't think. Yeah. Which is why he's in this tier of rushing quarterbacks. Not like the last year rushing yards, which is awesome. If he can. If he can find his guy, Marvin Harrison Jr. Then it feels like his.
Liz Loza
Floor is even gonna really efficient rusher last year, which I appreciated, even though his carries were not as prolific, the amount of yardage he was able to.
Daniel Dopp
Put forward was all right.
Field Yates
And by the way, we've got a couple of these quarterbacks. Mike, I thought eloquently stated this yesterday on Josh Allen where a couple of these guys who are at the top of the heap for rushing aptitude, like at some point they're going to get phased out. Like the Bills have already begun that process. Yeah, the Bills have made it extremely clear. And I'm not talking about like goal line and in opportunities for Josh Allen, but like if they have the ball in the 40 yard line, their own 40 yard line, the idea of rushing Josh Allen is just become less of a priority for them compared to where it was three years ago. Because these guys are all aging ever so slightly. Right. Josh is what now? Probably 28 years old. Something like that.
Daniel Dopp
Probably. I mean that's a great question actually. Do you think he's under. How old do you think Josh Allen is?
Field Yates
Josh Allen is 29.
Daniel Dopp
Actually nine.
Field Yates
Wow.
Daniel Dopp
All right. He looks good for being 29.
Liz Loza
Everyone looks good at.
Daniel Dopp
I know.
Liz Loza
What are you talking about?
Daniel Dopp
I WISH I was 29 again.
Liz Loza
When I was 29, I looked 19.
Daniel Dopp
All right. After you took Kyler, we had Debo come off the board. Javante Williams, Keon Coleman. Sorry, I should have said something. That's my. That's a bad looking at that job. I know. You still look like you're 19, Liz.
Liz Loza
Blushing. It's awesome.
Daniel Dopp
Keon Coleman, Brock Purdy, Mark Andrews, Tucker Kraft. And then Keenan Allen comes off the board. Keenan Allen ahead of Jordan, Addison ahead of Khalil Shakir ahead of Jaden Reed. How high do you think is too? I don't want to say too high, but do you think that there's going to be enough volume in this offense given what you saw last year in his Bears offense? He's another year older. That Keenan Allen can be a nice maybe wide receiver for a flex option for your squad?
Field Yates
I think it's possible. We have, by the way, some breaking news from Adam Schefter that has some fantasy relevance to it. Chiefs wide receiver Rasheed Rice is expected to have his disciplinary hearing with the NFL on Tuesday, September 3rd 30th. This means that Rice is now likely to be eligible to play the first four games of the season before any potential discipline is imposed for his role in a multi car crash in Dallas during the 2024 off season. Now this makes things very interesting because he's going to play the first four games.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Liz Loza
You get him for a month, you.
Field Yates
Might lose him for six weeks. Where's their buy or buy is week 12. So let's just say Rasheed Rice is suspended six games and I'm using that because it's a baseline tied to the behavior that he is being potentially punished for. Yep. You could potentially have Novor she rice on week 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, you get him back for week 11, you lose them again for week 12. So you could potentially go from effectively week 4 to week 13 with no.
Liz Loza
Rashee Rice, but then come playoff time.
Field Yates
But then he's hella So I think what it comes down to with Rasheed Rice is like in some ways the early season suspension. You can make a case both ways. Yeah, let me make this case here as we can continue to make picks. By the way, I don't want to hold up the all right, I'll make.
Daniel Dopp
A pick and then after we get done we'll recap all these.
Field Yates
Right now to me it's clear that the six game suspension at the beginning, let's assume I'm using that that that number. Let's work with it for a second.
Liz Loza
It's a benchmark.
Daniel Dopp
Okay.
Field Yates
If it's six games, I would much rather it happened to begin the season than during the middle of the season. Because here's the problem with it happening during the middle of the season is that like you might draft Rasheed Rice and get him for four weeks and be okay. But if you're not great and then you lose him for six weeks, you might have to just cut bait entirely. Right now if you draft Rashee Rice and he is available for the first four weeks and you're four and oh, you don't care. You're just holding tight, right? You're like, all right, fine, I'll get him back in week 11 or 12, whatever we said it was for one game and then just get him back for the playoffs. If you get him. If he gets suspended for weeks one through six, like if you're two and four and you get him back for week seven, you're like, okay, here's the guy to come back and get the season on track. If you're 5 and 1, you're like, I've got a wagon. And now it's even more of a wagon going forward. So I'd much rather have the clarity to begin the season as opposed to during the middle of the season. So we will update. I guess we won't update the rankings because we won't know.
Liz Loza
I think it's such a level headed approach that Field is painting here because part of me is like, if I have Rasheed Rice the first four weeks, I'm going to start hot. There's no part of me that's like, well, I could maybe not especially with.
Daniel Dopp
Where you're drafting him right now. Like, he will be an unbelievable value. However, if for some reason you don't start hot. And all of a sudden you're like, well, now I gotta sit out a six game suspension. You're basically having to trade that player.
Liz Loza
To someone else who doesn't think they're gonna start hot. I mean, it is, what, August 15th.
Daniel Dopp
We all think we're gonna start hot. That's fair, Liz, that's fair.
Field Yates
Given that I've literally never lost a game in fantasy football, I probably will start hot.
Liz Loza
But this is a very cogent, well thought out argument on Field's behalf, which is why he continually crushes. Because he's looking at all of the different scenarios. You and I are bulls in China shops. We're like amazing. And instead, well, hold on. If we're two and four and we're da da da. And week 12. This is why you'd always rather have.
Field Yates
The clarity sooner though, in my opinion.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, you're sort of. I feel like what you just did was Charlie from It's Always Sunny where you're connecting the dots with the strings on all the different places. Like you've got it all planned out. We know what we're doing.
Liz Loza
You know you're going to have to go on a break. Yeah, right. Like he's your summer boyfriend. You have to go on a break when school starts again.
Daniel Dopp
Yep, that's how it works.
Field Yates
I just took Rasheed Shahid and Dak Prescott back to back by the way. So we're down to the final two rounds of our mock. Well, we're going to find a way to finish this.
Liz Loza
Is that your QB one?
Daniel Dopp
Yes, we will.
Field Yates
Dak Prescott, which I. It was him, Caleb and Justin Herbert as the most notable quarterbacks available. I have Dak ranked higher than those two. So pull the trigger on Dak there. And here we are. Fascinating though on that Rashee Rice stuff. I got to think long and hard about how much I adjust the rankings because what we don't know, like we're still missing one gigantic variable is that.
Daniel Dopp
The the leader of the NFL PA to figure out like what it's going to mean.
Field Yates
That could certainly influence things. Right. It does buy the PA six more weeks to potentially have find someone place. I don't think they're going to have their long term answer in place. But you have to make a decision on how many games you expect him to miss.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
So if it is six games, we're not going to know until December 30th. But like what if you know, we get news From Shefty on September 30th at 6pm Two game suspension, then everybody.
Daniel Dopp
That drafted Rasheed Rice just got him pretty good. Incredible value is what happened.
Field Yates
Man.
Daniel Dopp
That's part of the, you know, you're the guessing game. It is.
Liz Loza
Do you want to play with the variables or would you rather issue. We all know what that means, right?
Daniel Dopp
Yes, we know what that means situation.
Liz Loza
And the experiment altogether.
Daniel Dopp
All right, so since I'm going to recap a couple of picks here just for our audio listeners. Also this is a great time for you to be able to join our YouTube stream because in case you are not watching on there, you have the draft board that you can look at to see who has come off the board. But since I took Khalil Shakir in the 10th round, we had Jordan Addison, Taje Spears, Josh Downs, Emeka Egbuka and then field you took Rashid Shahid and Dak Prescott and then Austin Eckler, Ramondre Stevenson, Tank Bigsby and Jaden Higgins comes off the board and I'm now at a spot where I'm looking at this. There's like one wide receiver that I really feel super comfortable with. I'm going to take this guy because it's a three wide receiver plus a flex league. I just want another option and that's going to be Jaden Re. He was my guy last year. Week one made me look really good. My friends, we all love that Brazil game. It was fantastic. But there's a reason why you don't take victory laps. After week one, Jaden Reed just felt like he was every other wide receiver in that packers offense. It's just pick a week and maybe it's his, maybe it's not. You know, that's one of the things.
Field Yates
That'S the biggest demerit of Matthew Golden. It's just like the history of the offense he plays in.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
And yet earlier when I drafted him. But I'm telling you is that like the stars seem to be aligning to suggest that he can. He's not going to be your typical packers wide receiver of the past, whatever three and a half, four years since Devonte Adams was or left in free agents.
Liz Loza
I think part of that is his skill set though it's a more varied skill set. Can be deployed at all levels. So I think he can fill into any spot in which there is an injury, which is why I like him over a while overall and why your work is so valuable. Because if you know a little bit about the players and where they fit into the offenses which you detail with incredible expertise, you can make better educated decisions.
Field Yates
Did you just like snipe me and I'm about to find out.
Daniel Dopp
I was going to say what are you about to do to Liz or about to feel?
Liz Loza
Because that was everybody. I'm just kidding.
Daniel Dopp
All right. So since I took Jaden Reed, Justin Fields comes off the board, then Jordan Mason.
Field Yates
Liz.
Daniel Dopp
And then Drake May the clock.
Liz Loza
Yeah, I kind of hate this. Like I feel.
Daniel Dopp
What do you need? What does your team need? Liz, you're.
Liz Loza
I mean, I feel like I need more wide receiver depth. I don't really love any of these options and these are the moments where I feel like I'm going to end up reaching because we have a glut of quarterbacks. I don't really need that. I don't really want to deal with the Jacksonville backfield. I don't want to deal with Rashad White here. I don't need a tight end. And so I do like Trey Benson. I do. You know, there's a lot of great late round running backs and that would be the value. But also the position of need is wide receiver. So I think I'm probably. I think I'm just going to take Xavier Leggett.
Daniel Dopp
I'll say this.
Liz Loza
Just do it.
Daniel Dopp
This is just. I like an example of why we wanted to do a 12 team league and add in a wide receiver. By the time that you go to 12 teams, you're already feeling like your draft board gets a little bit tighter than it does. And now you add in another wide receiver spot. And where would we would normally be at in the 10th round with what we do at for our ESPN standard leagues? This is a very different crop of players that we are looking at.
Liz Loza
When you go from one of these mocks to a 10 team mock, it's like spring break 2010 all over again.
Daniel Dopp
Yes. It feels like I'm leaving with a really good team.
Field Yates
Spring break in 2010.
Liz Loza
I went to Greece actually.
Field Yates
Okay.
Liz Loza
I went cruise of the Greek islands.
Field Yates
That sounds awesome.
Liz Loza
Yeah.
Field Yates
Before. I've never been on a cruise before.
Daniel Dopp
Are you serious?
Field Yates
Never been. They sound cool.
Daniel Dopp
Cruises are fun. I've been on one cruise in my life. It was very fun.
Field Yates
Where was it?
Daniel Dopp
I went down to the Bahamas actually.
Field Yates
Oh yeah.
Daniel Dopp
Did not see our friends at Bahamar. But I. I would have rather had to end at the Bahamar resort than where it ended. But cruises are a blast field.
Liz Loza
The cruise that I went on with my family a year ago, the Disney cruise, very different from the Greek Isles cruise. More than a decade.
Field Yates
A little more.
Daniel Dopp
Yes. I can imagine. All right. So Liz, you ended up going with Xavier Leggett here?
Liz Loza
I did.
Daniel Dopp
And then Trey Benson, Travis Etienne, Jaden Blue, Marvin Mims. And then you went with another running back.
Liz Loza
I did.
Daniel Dopp
How come? It's the best guy on the board.
Liz Loza
If I was going to reach, I couldn't do it twice in a row. And I do really like Marvin Mims, but he was already gone. My hope was I could get Leggette and Mims as my final two. Sure didn't happen that way. So I'll take Charbonnet.
Daniel Dopp
That's fair. Fair makes a ton of sense. I am now back on the board. Christian Kirk and Tyler Warren came off and this is going to be my last pick. If I'm going to go this route. I guess my favorite player on the board that I feel confident in getting touches and playing time. Although there is definitely uncertainty in this situation. I'm going to go with Jerome Ford. Obviously there's a lot going on that Cleveland backfield we do not know about. We're going to continue to watch that. But right now it feels like Jerome Ford at least is going to start the season as the starting running back of the Cleveland Browns. That's what my experience is.
Field Yates
Hammer, Dillon Sampson. We're three weeks from the first regular season game. And Quinn. Shawn Judkins, their second round pick hasn't signed a contract. A very scary situation. Allegations he was arrested for over the summer. So I would say that expecting much out, I mean expecting anything from him this season is. Who knows?
Daniel Dopp
Who knows. Yep.
Field Yates
That legal situation is far more important than football.
Daniel Dopp
Agreed.
Field Yates
One pick away. I'm on the clock. Last pick here. By the way, we cruised through this mock draft. Yeah, we did something a couple nights ago I mentioned this guy is my long shot. Yeah, you did.
Daniel Dopp
Wait, you going with a Titan wide receiver here?
Field Yates
Tighten up, all right. Ellic Ao Manor, fourth round pick out of Stanford.
Daniel Dopp
Love it.
Field Yates
Just random whatever.
Daniel Dopp
What did you see that made you want to target went to Stanford.
Field Yates
He is a. He's a huge fast downfield receiver who was kind of crestfallen. Is that a good word? It's a great by his quarterback play at Stanford.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
They did not have Andrew Luck under center these past couple of years for the Cardinal on offense. So the quarterback play kind of limited his ability to be a great player. As I should say he was a great player who could have been even greater if he had good quarterback play at Stanford. And I just look at this Titans wide receiver room right now. Calvin Ridley should play every snap.
Daniel Dopp
Yes.
Field Yates
Who is a guarantee to play as that second wide receiver in Tennessee? The answer is I don't think anybody is a guarantee. It's. You're kind of rolling the dice. They drafted a pair, maybe three receivers on day three to the Titans. Shimray DK out of Florida who was big fast slot who started at Wisconsin as well. But I think a manor like. I just like the player. Cam Ward is an excellent downfield thrower. So I don't know. It's a long shot. It's the last pick of the mock draft. So yolo.
Daniel Dopp
Why not? And by the way, this is the last pick of our mock draft. Technically we would have a few more positions to fill out had this been a longer draft.
Field Yates
I like the YOLO picks.
Daniel Dopp
Me too. All right, let's recap some of our teams then really quickly. Liz, let's start with you. You had the fourth overall. Sorry the third overall pick. So go ahead and give the people your squad.
Liz Loza
At quarterback I have Kyler Murray starting at running back. Bijan Rob Bijon. Excuse me. Robinson and Bucky Irving. Wide receiver Devonte Adams, DK Metcalf and DJ Moore. Trio of old heads there. A nice solid floor, high floor, veteran core group there. Tight end is Mark Andrews. And then for a little Bit of upside at flex. I have Tetoa McMillan, the rookie. Love that bench. Tony Pollard, Xavier Leggette and Zach Charbonnet.
Daniel Dopp
You got two Panthers wide receivers.
Liz Loza
Sure did deny.
Daniel Dopp
Probably wasn't planned. However, again, this is one of those things. It's very important. If you're used to doing like one kind of a draft, you're like, I've got all 10 team leagues, but then there's one league that I have that's a 12 teamer. Like do some mocks because it will inherently be different for you.
Liz Loza
Also, I always like to review my mocks and say, okay, if I could change one thing and I just get to pick one thing. This is my own personal process. If I could change one thing, what would I change? Where was a mistake I made? What could I use to what fix could I employ next time to make my squad better?
Daniel Dopp
Love that. Everyone should do that when they regret.
Liz Loza
Taking Leggette instead of Marvin Mims. That would have been the moment that I think I would have been happier with this bench given how everything felt to me.
Daniel Dopp
Okay, good to know. Love that. Field, let's go to you.
Field Yates
Okay.
Daniel Dopp
You had picked 12.
Field Yates
Yep. Sure did.
Daniel Dopp
Let's reveal your team.
Field Yates
So on the the boundaries here. So I got Dak Prescott as my quarterback way late. Devon Hn and Kenneth Walker. The third of my two starting running backs. Puka Nakua, Jalen Waddle, Matthew Golden. My trio of starting receivers, tight end. 3. Who was my tight end? One is George Kittle, Travion Henderson and Stefan Digs. Plus Rashid Shahid and Elik Ayo Manor. So I would say my wide receiver depth is good enough, but I wouldn't call it dominant by any.
Daniel Dopp
I would say it's good enough, especially given the fact that you're basically employing a wide receiver in the tight end spot. Like that's one of the things to not make sure you leave behind like Travis. Excuse me. George Kittle is absolutely going to going to help float your tight end position the entirety of the season. All right. I picked number seven overall. My team. I had Joe Burrow as my starting quarterback, Christian McCaffrey and DeAndre Swift as my two running backs. My wide receivers, I don't want to say they're boom bust, but they're big play guys for sure. Nico Collins, Tyreek Hill and George Pickens. My flex is Isaiah Pacheco with Evan Ingram as my tight end. And my bench is some safe guy in Khalil Shakir. I felt like I just needed a guy that's going to catch A lot of targets given how how much upside there potentially is in the wide receiving core. And then Jaden Reed and Jerome Ford as my final running that team.
Liz Loza
Stop.
Daniel Dopp
I like my team as well.
Field Yates
Is the YouTube chat voting on this right now?
Daniel Dopp
I think the YouTube chat. Well, I'll tell you what. We're going to put up a poll. We'll see how long it takes. Maybe we bring it back tomorrow and we'll talk about who had the best team.
Liz Loza
I'm not here you can talk smack about.
Daniel Dopp
No, Liz, we would never do that. We would never do.
Liz Loza
I'll be listening.
Field Yates
Any final thoughts here on Rashee Rice?
Daniel Dopp
For what it's worth right now, the early returns. 48 of our YouTube chat. Feels like my team is the best team.
Field Yates
That's great.
Daniel Dopp
36 is on field. Liz Loza chat agrees with you. You should have taken Marvin Mims over Xavier Leggett. That's the only thing that held you back. That was it. Only note was just that one. Thanks for hanging out with us, kid. It's always fun whenever you're able to.
Liz Loza
See you guys in a week.
Field Yates
Yeah, see you in a week.
Liz Loza
I love that. I'm leaving, but it's not for so long. We'll be back together shortly.
Daniel Dopp
We will see you soon. Not see you? No. Yeah. I don't know.
Liz Loza
Not see you later. See you soon.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, whatever that's going to be. Yes, 100%. Fields, you and I are going to be back tomorrow. We're gonna do a big running back show. I can't wait to hear the nugget that you almost dropped on today's show, but you're saving for tomorrow.
Field Yates
Must draft running backs. Or I think it might be 10 or nine or something. But yes, lots of must draft running backs.
Daniel Dopp
Yes.
Field Yates
Like yesterday's show. Same format, just different position.
Daniel Dopp
Yep. Thanks for hanging out with us. Don't forget to love each other. Be kind to yourself and we'll see you guys tomorrow.
Field Yates
You're in the fantasy.
Daniel Dopp
Fantasy for God.
Podcast Summary: Fantasy Focus Football – 12-Team PPR Mock Draft
Podcast Information:
The episode kicks off with the hosts welcoming listeners to a special 12-Team PPR Mock Draft. Notably, Liz Loza joins the panel, temporarily replacing Mike Clay as the primary ranker. The hosts emphasize Mike Clay's enduring professionalism and ability to handle critique gracefully.
Field Yates [02:08]:
"Mike is so ironclad in so many ways, including his capacity to just take the heat."
Daniel Dopp [02:13]:
"He does all the projections here. Our game would not exist without Mike Clay. So please know that we love him incessantly."
Liz Loza [01:22]:
"I always am a little nervous that Mike is gonna be upset with me because you tend to make this comparison, and I am not asking for it. Mike, I think you're wonderful."
This adjustment sets a respectful tone, highlighting Mike’s significant contributions while introducing Liz as a valuable addition to the team.
The hosts outline the unique structure of this mock draft tailored for a 12-team PPR league:
Daniel Dopp [03:00]:
"We're going to do three wide receivers, adding in a little extra depth at the pass catcher position. Still have a flex."
Field Yates [05:07]:
"So again, three receivers, to reiterate. So we change your strategy a little."
The strategy focuses on leveraging the abundance of quality WRs available, allowing managers to prioritize depth and upside at this position without compromising other key areas like running backs (RBs) and quarterbacks (QBs).
The mock draft begins with high-profile selections:
Liz Loza [07:38]:
"I'm happy to take Bijon also because we have talked at length about the amount of depth at wide receiver."
Daniel Dopp [08:09]:
"I'm going to end this slide. Rasheed Rice comes off the board already as well."
Field Yates [10:45]:
"I split the atom a little bit. I took Puka Nukua at 12 and I took Devon HN at 13."
The hosts discuss the balance between securing elite WRs and ensuring strong RB options, highlighting the scarcity of top-tier RBs once the initial rounds are filled.
As the draft progresses into the mid-rounds, the focus shifts to addressing positional needs and capitalizing on value picks:
Daniel Dopp [12:08]:
"I'm thrilled with that, man, I'm pumped right now."
Liz Loza [13:02]:
"I'm going to completely eschew what we talked about in the beginning and take another running back, and I'm going to take Bucky Irving."
Field Yates [14:10]:
"He’s going to have a nice, solid floor, high floor, veteran core group there."
The conversation emphasizes the importance of adaptability, with hosts adjusting their strategies based on the flow of the draft and the availability of players. They debate the merits of waiting on certain positions versus securing value when it presents itself.
In the later rounds, the hosts focus on adding depth, addressing potential risks, and making strategic decisions to optimize their teams:
Liz Loza [25:38]:
"I grabbed Kyler Murray, which is a strategy I've been employing. I try to keep things loose and different, but I couldn't avoid the position anymore."
Field Yates [36:49]:
"I like the YOLO picks."
Daniel Dopp [34:12]:
"I'm going to go with a third running back and it's going to be Isaiah Pacheco."
Discussions highlight the balancing act between high-upside picks and reliable contributors, with considerations given to players’ health, team dynamics, and potential for breakout performances.
Throughout the mock draft, the hosts provide valuable insights into player potential, injury concerns, and team strategies:
Rasheed Rice Suspension:
Field Yates [50:00]:
"Rashid Rice is expected to have his disciplinary hearing... likely to be eligible to play the first four games of the season before any potential discipline is imposed."
The hosts analyze the impact of Rice’s suspension on draft strategies, weighing the initial value against the risk of missing significant portions of the season.
Quarterback Tier Discussions:
Daniel Dopp [22:38]:
"61% of our YouTube chat does, in fact, believe that Joe Burrow is a tier one quarterback."
The conversation delves into the quarterback tiers, assessing players like Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, and others based on their performance, age, and offensive schemes.
Running Back Depth:
Field Yates [33:16]:
"He's a great RB3. Like you need them to fill in because your players on a bye or banged up."
The need for versatile RBs who can produce consistently even when starters are unavailable is emphasized.
At the end of the mock draft, each host reviews their drafted team, highlighting strengths and potential areas for improvement:
Liz Loza’s Team:
Field Yates’s Team:
Daniel Dopp’s Team:
Liz Loza [58:43]:
"If I could change one thing, what would I change? Picking Leggette instead of Marvin Mims would have been the moment that I think I would have been happier with this bench."
The recaps provide a comprehensive look at each team's composition, strategy, and areas where they leveraged value or faced challenges during the draft.
The hosts conclude the episode by reflecting on the mock draft process and preparing listeners for upcoming shows:
Daniel Dopp [60:48]:
"It's a good lesson in staying nimble."
Field Yates [61:06]:
"Not see you? No. Yeah. I don't know."
Liz Loza [60:43]:
"See you guys in a week."
They hint at future content, including a running back-focused show, and encourage listeners to engage with their YouTube stream for live interactions and polls.
Field Yates [02:08]:
"Mike is so ironclad in so many ways, including his capacity to just take the heat."
Liz Loza [13:02]:
"I'm going to completely eschew what we talked about in the beginning and take another running back, and I'm going to take Bucky Irving."
Daniel Dopp [25:38]:
"I grabbed Kyler Murray, which is a strategy I've been employing. I try to keep things loose and different, but I couldn't avoid the position anymore."
Field Yates [50:00]:
"Rashid Rice is expected to have his disciplinary hearing... likely to be eligible to play the first four games of the season before any potential discipline is imposed."
Liz Loza [58:43]:
"If I could change one thing, what would I change? Picking Leggette instead of Marvin Mims would have been the moment that I think I would have been happier with this bench."
This episode of Fantasy Focus Football offers a deep dive into drafting strategies tailored for a 12-team PPR league, providing listeners with actionable insights and real-time analysis. The inclusion of Liz Loza adds a fresh perspective, while the hosts’ dynamic discussions around player value, positional depth, and risk management equip fantasy managers with the knowledge to navigate their drafts effectively.
For those looking to enhance their fantasy football strategies or simply enjoy the camaraderie of expert analysis, this mock draft serves as an invaluable resource.