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Daniel Dopp
Are you feeling more fulfilled now that.
Field Yates
You'Re back to work on August 15th? No, I need a vacation. See the movie that critics are saying is an awesome look at that crowd pleasing, fist pumping all out brawl of a film. You're right about that.
Daniel Dopp
They're coming after our family.
Field Yates
Go fix this. Oh my. Nobody 2, rated R. Holding in theaters August 15th.
Daniel Dopp
You're in the whole 6, 010.
Field Yates
Fantasy.
Daniel Dopp
Fantasy Focus. What's good, friends? Welcome into Fantasy Focus Football alongside field Jates. My name is Daniel Dopp. Here to get you guys ready with everything that you need to know about running back tears today. Feel Jates.
Field Yates
Huge show. Huge, gigantic. The most important position in football.
Daniel Dopp
It really is. I mean it's, it's not as deep, deep as the wide receiver spot. Right. It's, it's a little bit more top loaded up at the front. So it's going to be very valuable. Yeah.
Field Yates
Supply and demand is different here versus wide receivers. Where we were at like wide receiver 52 and I was like, how is Jaden Reed this low? Like, I think he's a good player. Meanwhile, my running back 52 is like, this guy is strictly a backup.
Daniel Dopp
A hundred percent. That's. It's going to be very fun to dive into the running back tears today. If you did not check out yesterday's show, go check out our wide receiver tiers. The quarterback tiers were before that. And we did a mock draft at the beginning of the week.
Field Yates
Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
If you are in a 10 team league, go check out our mock draft, see which way we went on. Next Monday we are going to do a 12 team mock draft for those in 12 team leagues. So make sure you check that out. But first and foremost, Phil Jates.
Field Yates
Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
I want to ask you a question.
Field Yates
Okay.
Daniel Dopp
Do you remember the very first professional sporting event that you went to?
Field Yates
I believe it was a. Actually an NFL playoff game between the New England Patriots. I am from outside of Boston. Many of you that have been listening to the show for many years probably already know that. Okay. Against the Cleveland Browns. The Cleveland Browns actually won that game in Foxborough. I was very fortunate to start to go to a lot of Patriots games shortly thereafter. But I was one of those. I was like a delayed first entrant and was very grateful and very fortunate to go to a lot of professional sporting events after that.
Daniel Dopp
After that.
Field Yates
Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
How about you? That's fair.
Field Yates
What's yours?
Daniel Dopp
I was five years old when my dad took me to the palace of Auburn Hills to watch the Detroit Pistons take on Chuck and the Philadelphia 76ers being able to watch Charles Barkley. There were no fights. No fights. I remember specifically, though, my dad bought me a jersey. I wish I still had it. I mean, unless your parents basically tuck it away, it's not gonna stick with you for. For 40 years, right? But I remember buying a jersey and I was so excited. Cause I was like, dad, can I hold it up? I don't want to block anyone's view, but I'm so excited. And he was like, sure, go ahead. And mind you, like, I'm up to someone's waist. Like, there's no way I'm blocking anyone's view by holding up my jersey. As a little kid, just to be pumped. But we were in the nosebleeds. It was not like they weren't great seats. But I vividly just remember being able to do that with my dad, which makes me think, Phil Gates, someone may have that moment tonight.
Field Yates
Nice.
Daniel Dopp
The hall of Fame games. Football is back.
Field Yates
It's back, baby.
Daniel Dopp
Detroit Lions, Chargers, I mean, Trey Lance is getting the start. I heard.
Field Yates
Can we talk about this just for one second, please? Concept of the first preseason game. There are two types of people in this world. There are those that say, yeah, dude, like it's going to be a bunch of guys who will be playing, you know, whatever, like backyard football with like their. Their buddies from high school in like three months because they won't actually matter. Or there are people. I think we're. You and I are in this camp.
Daniel Dopp
I think so.
Field Yates
You know what? I haven't watched a football game. So since basically February in the NFL. Obviously there's been the XFL and some other exhibitions, but the NFL hasn't had a game since February when the Eagles triumphantly won Super Bowl 55. Whatever it was. Anyways, bottom line is this. It's been a while. I'm excited to watch some football tonight. I may not know all of the players that are playing in the third or fourth quarter. Maybe some guys playing in the first and second quarter as well, but happy to have football back. Can't wait for Canton, Ohio, which of course is a site of the Pro Football hall of Fame.
Daniel Dopp
It is going to be a ton of fun. Just the idea that we have football back. It's on our do doorstep. We are all ready for it to be here. All right, we got a lot that we're gonna dive into. First and foremost though, field. I wanna make sure, just in case you did not listen to any of these other shows, I wanna make sure that you guys know where we're gonna be in the next coming weeks. New York First, New York City, August.
Field Yates
7, Gramercy Theater, fantasyfocuslive.com For tickets, 35 bucks.
Daniel Dopp
For 35 bucks, it's gonna be super awesome. And then we're going to Philly on August 14th. That's fantasyfocuslifephilly.com same exact thing. $35 meet and greet, all that good stuff. So come check us out in New York or Philly. But that's not all field, Jake.
Field Yates
Yeah, we're headed to the Bahamas, which is August 21st through 24th, bubble wrap included. For those that have the possibility of breaking their shoulder while there. It's the ultimate draft weekend is provided, of course, by ESPN and the great, great people at the Baja Mar Resort. It is beautiful. The weather is incredible. There are approximately 50 pools. That might be a slight exaggeration, but not a.
Daniel Dopp
Or it might not.
Field Yates
Yeah, yeah, it's very close to there. We do the draft experience on Saturday. There's tons of Q&As and roundtables. Head on over to bajamar.com draft if you are interested in going. And a reminder, as you have told people, Daniel, it doesn't have to be you and 10 friends. You don't have to convince nine other people to be there. If you want to go because you love fantasy football and you want to hang out with us, we come hang. Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
We will put you in a league with other people. You'll be able to have a ton of fun being able to do that. By the way, Todd Gurley is going to show up. Golden Tate's going to show up, Kyle Rudolph and a bunch of other people. It's going to be a ton of fun.
Field Yates
And last thing about it is that one of the beautiful parts about going to the Baja Mar Resort is there is incredible weather and just outstanding cocktails.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, yes.
Field Yates
If you're the kind of person that enjoys drinking a cocktail on the beach in some tremendous weather or a nice venue in general with some great weather, then the Baja Mar is probably for you. Now, you and I are too busy working these days to do something like that. You know, we're too dedicated to the game. We want to make sure that we grind out the content. Working on rankings and tiers and all the things that a hard working citizen does.
Daniel Dopp
Absolutely.
Field Yates
Do you know anybody who like, gets to hang out and drink cocktails right now?
Daniel Dopp
Boy, right now. I mean, who would get to do that during the first week of fantasy football season? I have no idea.
Field Yates
Who would just feel you or.
Daniel Dopp
I know. I mean, I just feel like because we're men of the people field who. Oh, that's right. It's Mike Clay. If you're watching our YouTube stream right now, you see Mike Clay drinking a golden margarita at the Versace Mansion. Oh, I'm sorry, House. I don't understand this. Why is. First off, why didn't we get an invite? And how is Mike Clay at the Versace Mansion?
Field Yates
Golden margarita?
Daniel Dopp
I have no idea.
Field Yates
I just drink margarita.
Daniel Dopp
Just a regular margarita.
Field Yates
Mike's definitely got his. His pinky out when he's sipping that cup there. Very uppity. Mike Clay looks so serious, by the way he does in that photo. Thinking of you, Mike. Hope you're having a good time at the Versace Mansion. Hope you're enjoying vacation.
Daniel Dopp
I gotta be honest. It was a $5 daily fine before that, but now. Now I know that that's what he's doing. I do think that we need to up the fine at this point.
Field Yates
He's on the hook for a steak dinner.
Daniel Dopp
I think so. I think that's right.
Field Yates
Running back tears.
Daniel Dopp
Let's dive into some running back tiers field gh. Just in case people did not listen to the last couple shows. I just want to make sure we sometimes look at tiers differently. What's the point of us being able to do tiers when we're doing this?
Field Yates
Yeah, so the tiers is sort of like buckets of players. And the idea is that the player at the top of the tier and the player at the bottom of the tier may not represent dramatically different values. So the example that I keep using is that the RB4 in my rankings might be very close to the RB5. The perfect example was, like, Nico Collins and Brian Thomas Jr. Yep. So close in value to me. Meanwhile, you go from a spot where it's like my RB12 versus my RB13 may just feel a little bit different. They're only one spot apart in the rankings, but they feel like a different category of player. So we're throwing players into tears to say that while I do have Bijan Robinson higher than Christian McCaffrey, these two are pretty close in value. That if somebody feels like Christian McCaffrey deserves to be ranked higher than Bijan, or at least close to Bijan. I. I don't believe that's a terrible idea.
Daniel Dopp
I just want you to know that you went 3 for 3 right there with Bajan. Rather than saying, Bijan, you did it. I mean, I know you're locked in. You're trying.
Field Yates
Well, Oiled machine. So let's get to it, Daniel, because I would argue that running backs and doing a good job with your running backs is the most tried and true way to win your fantasy football championship. In a 10 team league. It's a bit different when you get to like 16 or dynasty or whatever it might be. But in Standard scoring, 10 team leagues, you, you got to nail these running backs. Let's begin with our S tier. You've got only four players in your S tier. I'll give you my six to start. All right. Bajan Robinson, Saquon Barkley, John, Me or Gibbs.
Daniel Dopp
Yep.
Field Yates
The jersey you're wearing right now.
Daniel Dopp
That's right.
Field Yates
Good reminder, people. Gibbs is wearing number zero this year.
Daniel Dopp
It changed it from 26 to zero.
Field Yates
Christian McCaffrey, Ashton Genty and Devon Hn. As we discussed yesterday, as you move further away from one tiers become a little more subjective and the players become a little less important. So because of how instrumental running back success is to fantasy success, I wanted to maybe give a little bit more weight to these players at the top of the running back board here, Daniel.
Daniel Dopp
Absolutely.
Field Yates
Bijan Robinson, if you were to do 100 drafts and you had the number one pick, approximately how many of those 100 number one overall picks would you use on Jamar Chase?
Daniel Dopp
Probably half of them, I would say.
Field Yates
Okay. And then the other 50 would be.
Daniel Dopp
I would probably be Bijan. Bijan is my clear cut number one.
Field Yates
I think it's close. I think it's really important that you have a conversation between Jamar Chase and Bijon Robinson.
Daniel Dopp
Agreed.
Field Yates
You have the number one pick in the draft.
Daniel Dopp
Yep.
Field Yates
I know that people, I mean, Bijan was really, I mean, incredibly talented and really good as a rookie. Last year was just a remarkable season. I wanted to pull this up here. If you look at his last 10, excuse me, 12 games of last season, last 12 games, Bajan had 20 or more fantasy points in 10 of them. Yes. Now that's going to be hard to keep up that sort of pace. That's like what, 85 or so percent, 83% of your games. You're scoring 20 or more fantasy points. That's the upside. In Bajan, I would say that he is the best bet to play close to a full season. Finish top three in rushing attempts and finish top three in catches of any running back in the NFL.
Daniel Dopp
And he's going to continue, I feel like, to be the goal line guy, you know, Tyler Algier is still there, but he's going to get his goal line work. As well. From that perspective, yeah, they were better the staff last year.
Field Yates
I thought was was good last year with Bijan, I don't have many qualms about how they utilized him. And unlike a couple of the running backs that we're going to be talking about right now or shortly after this age, not really a concern for Bijan. Right. This is his third season. And while Jameer Gibbs is same year as Bajan, the difference between Bijan and Gibbs is pretty simple. David Montgomery, right. David Montgomery is a far better player than Tyler Algier. So Bichon to me belongs in that player number one overall conversation. In our mock draft project, I made sure to graft Bajan draft Bijan at least once. For those that don't recall what that was, we drafted 20 times, two times from each position, one through 10.
Daniel Dopp
Yep.
Field Yates
And I feel like in prior years, I get a little bit too stuck on just one player in that number one overall conversation. Bazan Bazon certainly belongs in that.
Daniel Dopp
Thank you, Zach Robinson, by the way, for being able to help unleash the Bajan that we've been waiting for.
Field Yates
All right, so next up is Saquon Barkley. And this is interesting, Daniel, because you and I, and like, we're pretty far apart here.
Daniel Dopp
Yes, we are. I'm definitely lower than everyone else on Saquon here at espn.
Field Yates
So I want to give the floor to you then. I think most people probably know why someone like me would have Saquon all the way up at 2. I'll retort after you go. But tell me why you have Bijan not just as RB6, but in a different tier.
Daniel Dopp
I have him in the next tier. The A tier. Yes. I have Saquon Barkley a little bit lower because I'm really concerned just about the historical regression after such a heavy workload. Do you how many carries he had last season?
Field Yates
I think the answer is 345.
Daniel Dopp
That's in the regular season. Yes, but he also played in the playoffs and he did not get a first round bye, by the way. He played 20 football games last year, touched the ball on the ground 436 times. Do you know who had more rushing attempts at the running back spot over the last 25 years than Saquon did last year.
Field Yates
436.
Daniel Dopp
436.
Field Yates
I'm going to guess there was a Derek Henry season in there? No. Nobody. Nobody, huh? The answer is nobody.
Daniel Dopp
No one carried the ball more than Saquon Barkley did over the last 25 years. Last season he had the third most touches by a running back in over two and a half decades. 482. You weren't even born field the last time that someone touched the ball this much is the thing.
Field Yates
I was definitely way not born.
Daniel Dopp
I am very concerned about the. I was born. Yeah. I was born in 82. I was. Yeah. 1982. Yeah.
Field Yates
You're the youngest looking 43 year old.
Daniel Dopp
Stop it. I appreciate you, but this is the thing I'm concerned about. Historical regression. Right. Guys that have this heavy workload, guys at that next year. It just feels like you played 20 games this season before and he was healthy through that entire time. So do I believe that these, you know, he has a chance to finish at the very top of this list? Absolutely. It's Saquon Barkley in a very run heavy offense. But there's a part of me that feels worried about that regression and given the potential for either injury or getting dinged up after what was such a heavy workload season last year.
Field Yates
Okay, So I have Ms. Arby too, as I mentioned. I think the case for Saquon is that if you go back through each of the past three seasons, the Philadelphia Eagles have a top five rusher in the NFL. It's three different players. DeAndre Swift, Miles Sanders and Saquon Barkley. This is to take nothing away from Saquon in the skill set, but to also note that this is probably the best ecosystem for any running back in the NFL.
Daniel Dopp
And he doesn't really have a backup running back behind him that you're scared of.
Field Yates
Yeah, it's Will Shipley, I guess an important insurance policy. But Saquon is obviously the man. They're going to feed him the ball a ton. They are amongst the run heaviest offenses in the NFL. We talked about this yesterday with A.J. brown. Like they just don't throw the ball as much as some of the players being drafted a little bit ahead or a little bit hot. Behind A.J. brown, he had seven games of 20 plus fantasy points last year. He had 2,000 rushing yards. I don't know, maybe this is low hanging fruit by me, but Saquon is built different. Like he's one of those guys that like if you look at the players that have not had 436 carries but have had monster, monster workload years, those that have been able to hold up, it has been the likes of Derrick Henry and Saquon and Derrick Henry physically on a different stratosphere.
Daniel Dopp
You could tell me, Daniel, I get what you're saying, but I just think that he gets to be one of the outliers. Because there are outliers, right? Derek Henry can be one of those guys. I get Saquon can be an outlier. So certainly not going to fault you for this. I'm not going to fault anyone for taking Saquon early. If you want to draft him as your number one running back, I'm fine with that.
Field Yates
Okay, fair enough. I'll keep going then through here because there are a couple more. Maybe the most interesting player in the entire running back board is coming up next. Jamer Gibbs. You got him as RB2. I have him as RB3. Jameer Gibbs plays the game at a different speed than pretty much every other NFL player. If David Montgomery is out, I think Jameer Gibbs catapults to RB1 for X. Number of weeks that Monty. He's unavailable. He's an elite, elite pass catcher. He's awesome.
Daniel Dopp
Yep.
Field Yates
RB4 for me is RB3 for you. It's Christian McCaffrey. Let's just have this conversation here.
Daniel Dopp
Good one.
Field Yates
A couple days ago, the 49ers posted this video of Christian McCaffrey making this beautiful catch. Saw it sort of reaching out for a pass. Kind of one of those drop in the bucket throws by. I don't even know who's under center. It might have been Brock Purdy, but I know he's missed some time recently because he had. He became a dad. I posted it and I was just like, I understand why Christian McCaffrey is not going to go 101 this year for obvious reasons. But a healthy Christian McCaffrey is, to me, a pretty decent bet to be the best player in fantasy football that week.
Daniel Dopp
Right.
Field Yates
So it comes down to this. Are you convinced that Christian McCaffrey's days of being able to hold up for a 17 game season are over? And are you convinced that just because of what happened last year, Christian McCaffrey is more injury risk than any of the other guys that we're talking about. Because remember when CMC had like never missed a game until he did? And remember when Jonathan Taylor had never missed a game until he did? Right? So guys can be remarkably durable until they're not. But if you knew you were getting 17, and this is an impossible thing to know, but if you Knew you're getting 17 games of Christian McCaffrey, knowing what you know about the outlook of all these other players.
Daniel Dopp
Yes.
Field Yates
Who would you take? Number one overall, Christian McCaffrey.
Daniel Dopp
If I'm getting 17 games out of CMC, he's the best running back in fantasy football. The way that they utilize him as a pass catcher, something that Saquon did not get right. Yeah, Saquon didn't get the passing game volume that we were hoping to potentially see. Even though he's a really great pass catch, your Eagles just don't utilize them that way. You also look at the fact that I think the 49ers have less high end pass catching talent this year than they had last year. Deebo's gone. It seems like we're not going to see Brandon Ayuk for at least a good portion of the season.
Field Yates
I'm telling you, man, my vibes are bad. I wonder if we'll see him at all this.
Daniel Dopp
So it's, it's. You're replacing those two guys. And I don't say this, you know, negatively with Juwan Jennings and Ricky Piersol. Like I could see CMC getting right back to where he was. I understand the fear, all the injury stuff you talked about, but If I get 17 games, he's my number one running back.
Field Yates
I feel the same way that if you were guaranteed 17 games of each of these players and 17 games of like playing about to the expectation of their ability.
Daniel Dopp
Right.
Field Yates
Then I think CMC would be number one overall. You can get 17 games and the guy just regresses. I think Christian McCaffrey is one of those where you just have to be on one side of the coin or the other.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
Based off of the replies on Twitter, which maybe I'm the sucker for, even reading the replies on Twitter, it's clear there are some people that are like, I'm out, I'm done. I don't want any part of it. Right. I want no part of Christian McCaffrey. I was snake bitten last year, taking him number one overall. And every year there's a player or two or ten that fit into this category. Right. Michael Thomas became this guy once he started to get banged up. Like, there's been no shortage of guys that fit into this category. He's the guy this year that you're either in or you're out on. If you're in, then to me, I think Christian McCaffrey can go as high. If you're in. If you're in.
Daniel Dopp
If you're in.
Field Yates
I don't think there's a case against him as a top three player. If you're in. Like, if you're in on Christian McCaffrey, then I have no issue with you going Jamar Chase first, Bajan Robinson second, and then Christian McCaffrey third.
Daniel Dopp
Yep.
Field Yates
And some people are going to be out and they're going to say, I wouldn't take him with pick 10, much less pick 3. And that's fine because you know what? It sucks when you make the same mistake in two years in a row. So I get it.
Daniel Dopp
Also, it's your team, like Field and I are talking about where we have our tears. But the beauty of fantasy football is you can listen to us talk, say whether you agree with us or disagree with us, and then be like, but you know what? I'm going to make my own decision. It's your team. If you want to draft CMC because you love them, then do it. If you want to stay away because you are worried about it, let someone else draft him. It's not like you can't get another really good player if you pass on CMC field.
Field Yates
Yep. And so there are, there are risks for Christian McCaffrey that maybe you feel, maybe medically speaking, someone would tell you that Christian McCaffrey is no more prone to injury than Saquon Barkley or Jameer Gibbs. It just feels like it going into the season. And if that's enough to dissuade you from drafting him, I get it. Next up for me is Player 5 in S tier and your last player in your S tier, Ashton Genting.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
Which big expectations for a guy who's never played a game before.
Daniel Dopp
Mike Clay has him projected for 336 touches in his rookie season. That would have been 6:30amongst all running backs last year, for what it's worth.
Field Yates
Yeah. So just to go back to the draft evaluation here, this is a no weakness player. Ashton Genti rushed for comically ridiculous numbers last season. It looked like a video game. It was just shy of Barry Sanders best rushing season at Oklahoma State.
Daniel Dopp
Barry right here on the desk.
Field Yates
Barry. Barry on top of that. I think this is just a reminder for those that don't follow college football closely. Two seasons ago, Ashton Genti had more receiving yards than any other running back in the fbs.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, so he's also a good pass catcher.
Field Yates
He's a legit dual threat running back. A legit three down player. They drafted him six overall. You don't do that when you don't plan to lean heavily on this player. The backfield is super thin beyond him. It's the likes of raheem Mostert, sincere, McCormick. Like not an inspiring crew behind Ash and Genty.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
And you've, you've used this stat previously. Pete Carroll from like 2012 to 2019. Didn't he have like six out of those eight years had like a top five running back utilization.
Daniel Dopp
If it's not that exactly, it's very close to that. I can dig it up for the future.
Field Yates
Say, like alternate headline. Pete Carroll loves to run.
Daniel Dopp
Loves to run the football. Yeah, that's it.
Field Yates
Last one for me in my S tier. And this guy did not thought about this guy.
Daniel Dopp
He was right on the border for me.
Field Yates
So it's Devon Achan. And Devon Hn does feel a little bit riskier as far as health is concerned, a la Christian McCaffrey, in part because we've seen him get banged up. He's so small. Yeah, right. Like he doesn't have the body armor of the five guys in front of him in my rankings. That makes him a bit more vulnerable. So the Dolphins have talked a ton about making their offense tougher and more rugged this year, and that includes running the football a lot more effectively. If they're able to accomplish that, it's good for Devon Hn, right? Better rushing aptitude. If they don't and they have to play offense like last year. Yeah, it's probably good for Devon Achan as well. You know why? Because the guy had absurd passing game volume. He's a threat for 80 catches this year. He's one of the few guys that could lead all running backs in receptions. Even if last year was so different than 2023, his rookie season when it was just huge plays left and right. It was like seven and a half yards per carry and like 14 touchdowns. That's not the exact number, but just it felt like every game. He was a touchdown bet. Last year it was four and a half yards of carry. It was just insane volume. He's got two different paths to becoming an elite player.
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Daniel Dopp
You know, it's really funny while you're saying that it made me think about Jalen Waddle like his teammate, where it's like his first season was just so different than his season, but they both were actually really good seasons. From a fantasy perspective, he definitely lost all of the efficiency that he had as a runner that those explosive plays basically evaporated last year because the Dolphins offense was just sputtering without tua.
Field Yates
It really was.
Daniel Dopp
But when you lead the NFL as a running back in reception or lead all running backs in receptions, that just elevates your. I mean even though we lost that efficiency, it helped elevate his floor for us. In healthy games with Tua Field, he averaged 22 fantasy points per game. I don't know, like he's not a When you say the Dolphins want to be more rugged. Devon Achan isn't the guy that I picture.
Field Yates
It's definitely not him. They drafted Ollie Gordon out of Oklahoma State. 5th round pick Jalen Wright from last year, too.
Daniel Dopp
Is that still a thing or not.
Field Yates
Really still a factor? Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
Okay.
Field Yates
What I'm. At least the idea of them being a better blocking offensive line comes into play, which could benefit Devon Achan.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
You want to go to the A tier here?
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. And just for what it's worth, my S tier field had already said it, but it's Bijan Jameer Gibbs, Christian McCaffrey, and then Ashton Gentee. I just have those Bajan.
Field Yates
Oh, dang it.
Daniel Dopp
And you've been giving me so like you even laid it on the table. You said Bajan so many times.
Field Yates
All right, all right, let's move ahead.
Daniel Dopp
To the A tier.
Field Yates
Yeah. And these guys are all awesome players. These guys are all, I think, you know, have top five upside. They just have like one or perhaps one and a half mitigating factors relative to the players ahead of them.
Daniel Dopp
Would all of these guys in the A tier still be considered RB1s for your team? Meaning if you left the draft with one of these guys as your RB1, you'd be happy.
Field Yates
Yes, I would. Because as you get lower into the tier, it means you have excellent wide receiver or tight end depth. Okay, here we go. A tier for me. Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs, Jonathan Taylor, Chase Brown, Bucky Irving, Kyron Williams, and James Cook.
Daniel Dopp
That's a good list of running backs. Right?
Field Yates
I mean, we probably need to spend the least amount of time on Derek Henry. He's Derek.
Daniel Dopp
He's Derek. Bleeping Henry.
Field Yates
Henry. Yeah. We just know with Henry, the biggest mitigating factor is that he does not catch a ton of passes.
Daniel Dopp
What's changed from last year to this year? Anything?
Field Yates
Not really.
Daniel Dopp
Like, I get he's a year older, but again, like we were kind of talking about with Saquon, if there was one guy that you were going to be like, hey, this guy might defy like the age thing, Derek Henry in this Ravens offense, is it just, you.
Field Yates
Know, the difference between Derrick Henry and, you know, Christian McCaffrey playing 17 games, that if CMC plays 17 games, you expect 70 catches?
Daniel Dopp
Right.
Field Yates
If Derek Henry plays 17 games, you'd be happy with 30. I mean, you'd be. And obviously Derek Henry has other strengths.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, I'm expecting 18 touchdowns if he plays 17.
Field Yates
You're always looking at it as like, how many pathways do you have to scoring a Lot of points in a given week. Yeah, Josh Jacobs was top six in rushes, rushing yards and rushing touchdowns last season. And how about this? He caught a touchdown the first of his career. Last. How about that? That was big. Jacobs is kind of like Derrick Henry, like you know, just elite workhorse volume. Should get most if not all of the goal line carries. Not great depth behind him. Marshawn Lloyd is once again banged up their third round pick out of USC last year. So to me Josh Jacobs just steady Eddie with plenty of touchdown upside.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. Second second most touches of his career last year.
Field Yates
So yeah, he was awesome last year for them. Jonathan Taylor also sort of like Derrick Henry light. He had 18 catches last year. So the passing game volume is a little bit more volatile for Jonathan Taylor than it is some of the backs ahead of him. And we know Vanthony Richardson is the starting quarterback for the Colts. That decreases the upside of Jonathan Taylor because for all the things that I. All the. Well, I got way wrong on Anthony Richardson.
Daniel Dopp
We all got way wrong field. We all got wrong.
Field Yates
Hello me. What we do know about Anthony Richardson is that he is going to be utilized as a runner in the red zone and near the goal line for sure. Chase Brown, awesome football player.
Daniel Dopp
Love.
Field Yates
Chase Brown was great the last 13 games. Remember Zach Moss was a factor for the first four. He had 49 catches over the last 13 games. Do the math. Over 17 games. That would be pushing for like 65ish catches for Chase Brown. And once again it looks really thin behind him. The name you probably need to know that you haven't spent much attention or you haven't paid much attention to so far is Taj Brooks, 6th round pick out of Texas Tech. Had monster couple of years at Texas Tech. He looks like the next man up, which is an important thing to know for Chase Brown. Samaj P. Ryan, also there. One of my favorite targets in drafts in the second round is Bucky Irving who had just a monster second half. And what you love about Bucky is that he can carry the ball 200 plus times. He did it last year.
Daniel Dopp
Yes, he didn't.
Field Yates
He also had 47 catches last year sharing time with Rashad White. So there's proof of concept that even if Rashad White has a role, not a massive role but a role, Buck Irving can still absolutely dominate for fantasy purposes.
Daniel Dopp
Absolutely.
Field Yates
Kyron Williams, third in rushing attempts last year. The big thing with Kyron is that he's not going to catch a ton of passes if the Rams continue to play offense like they have.
Daniel Dopp
Remember when we Were worried because they drafted Blake Corum.
Field Yates
I am.
Daniel Dopp
And then that didn't really do anything. And this year, then this year, like, are we worried now because they've now invested two straight years in a backup running back. Is there any reason to like give you pause for that?
Field Yates
Well, I think there's a chance that like by the time this podcast is. Is in your ears, if you're listening or watching for that matter, on YouTube, there's a chance Kyron Williams has a new contract in hand. They've been talking about this. He has been practicing still, but fully expect slash plan to extend Kyron Williams, which to me would be a more consequential investment than drafting a third and fourth round running back.
Daniel Dopp
He is the guy in that offense too. He had 80% of his team's goal to go rushes. Like he is the goal line guy. He's third in touches, third in rush attempts last year. So yeah, love, love Kyren.
Field Yates
Last one for me is James Cook. So many touchdowns last year he was tied for the NFL lead with 16 rushing touchdowns, had only 1,007 rushing yards. You know, the Bills had some games last year. They were up big. They had, they have a decent amount of running back depth and Ray Davis and also Ty Johnson and they do have Josh Allen too who can handle some rushing. So like James a lot. This would be the end of my A tier. This is quite a bit wider though than yours.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, my A tier is a little bit thinner here. I would start with Devon Achan, then do Saquon Barkley, Jonathan Taylor, Bucky Irving, Chase Brown and Derrick Henry. So we have a number of similar names other than Devon H.N. and Saquon Barkley. A number of similar names here in this category. The one thing I would like to say field, I'm looking at Chase Brown just one more time in case anyone didn't check it out or didn't hear it the other day. Zach Moss no longer on the team. So Chase Brown is going to be that guy. When Zach Moss went down a week eight last year with a neck injury, he was running back six from that point on. RB6, second most receptions amongst running backs over that span. He was third and goal to go touches over that span. Doesn't that sound like Austin Eckler light to you?
Field Yates
It does. They actually like there was a time last year where I was, I was fearful for Chase Brown's wellbeing though because it was. There was a stretch of like 56 straight running back opportunities that went to.
Daniel Dopp
Chase Brown, just to Chase Brown like.
Field Yates
No one even played besides him. Yeah, it was like, oh, man, Chase Brown didn't play much yesterday. Only 94% of the snaps. Yeah, well, insane.
Daniel Dopp
It's. It's a huge work. Huge workload. Obviously, Samaj Piran, like you mentioned, and Taj Brooks, two guys that are going to be behind him, but interested to see. See how that's going to work out. By the way, Bengals just added Noah Fant. I saw that. So that'll be. That'll be something. Anyone else here in this tier that you feel like is worth diving into? Because I think these guys at the top, like you had said, I mean, they're the ones that we lean on basically every single year. We know the most about these guys, and I think most everyone kind of feels like the top 10 to 12 running backs in fantasy football. Even if we have them in a slightly different order, we all kind of view them similar. Ish. Right.
Field Yates
Would agree on that. Yep.
Daniel Dopp
All right, so let's move to our B tier then. This is where my RB2 start.
Field Yates
This is beefy for me, and I want to give you two players that make me nervous that I'm way too high and one that I'm way too low.
Daniel Dopp
Okay.
Field Yates
All right, buckle up because we got.
Daniel Dopp
You got a big B tier.
Field Yates
For those that are watching right now, you can see James Conner, Alvin camara, Kenneth Walker III, Chuba Hubbard.
Daniel Dopp
Yep.
Field Yates
Breece Hall, Omarion Hampton, David Montgomery, DeAndre Swift, Tony Pollard, Aaron Jones, Isaiah Pacheca. Pacheco. Excuse me. And Caleb Johnson.
Daniel Dopp
Okay. It's a big list field.
Field Yates
You know, it makes me. And it's a huge list. And again, as I said, these become a little more gray, shades of gray, as opposed to, like, black and white as far where they should start, where they should finish.
Daniel Dopp
Okay.
Field Yates
All guys who feel like they could be legitimate starters for their team and, like, carry a lot of the workload.
Daniel Dopp
Absolutely.
Field Yates
I'm going to start with a couple of guys that make me nervous. 1. One who makes me nervous, one who makes me excited. And I'm starting to wonder if I just need to make the move now. Breeze hall at RB18.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
No idea.
Daniel Dopp
Yes.
Field Yates
What do you do with this player, Daniels? Breeze hall two years ago or last year at this time? If you had Breeze hall in Dynasty, he was what, RB3.
Daniel Dopp
Probably four. I mean, right there next to, you know, Bijan Jameer Gibbs, maybe Bijan Jameer Gibbs, maybe Saquon.
Field Yates
But Saquon going into last year, there's a very favorable opinion. But Saquon reshaped the narrative around his own brilliance with last year's season.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
Bottom line is this. Breeze hall looked like the kind of guy who could be the centerpiece of your dynasty team for a while. The jets made two investments in the draft last year and unlike with the Rams, feels like they plan to use these guys a lot. There's been a lot of positive reporting on Braylon Allen, their fourth round pick out of Wisconsin last year player who, by the way, actually is missing a couple days of practice right now. But the early returns were strong. I have no idea. Breeze hall, man, he feels like, I mean, stay away is too strong. I tell you people all the time, like, I don't stay away from players entirely. He's the kind of guy that's harder to pull the trigger on. For me right now.
Daniel Dopp
I am totally with you. Okay. So Breeze hall has never topped 1,000 yards rushing.
Field Yates
Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
Okay. Do you think that with Justin Fields and the rumblings of the other running backs getting involved, that he's more likely to do it this year than he was last year?
Field Yates
I don't think so. And he.
Daniel Dopp
That doesn't mean that he can't, but I don't think he's more likely to, given the changes. Right.
Field Yates
This is the important part, too, is that he's no longer part of this regime.
Daniel Dopp
Right.
Field Yates
This is a new regime.
Daniel Dopp
Right.
Field Yates
He's not one of their guys. Right. Sometimes when you draft a player or you're the coach of the player when he is drafted, there's a loyalty because you saw them from the beginning and you made an investment. And whether it's intentional or not, sometimes you try to justify those investments.
Daniel Dopp
Right. Yeah.
Field Yates
He's not in that scenario anymore. It just makes me extremely nervous. I don't know what to do. I almost wish the jets would, would, would volunteer some clarity, but they're not.
Daniel Dopp
Going to do that. No. And, and that's. Here's the thing for us in fantasy, if you're not going to get those rushing attempts or potentially get that rushing volume, we know he's an excellent pass catcher. Field, he's great. 90, 94 targets last year and 76 receptions. Do you think that he's going to have that many targets with Justin Fields? Justin Fields doesn't throw the football to running backs that much.
Field Yates
Definitely not. So I think by the time, and I kind of feel like a good show at the end of August would just be like, what's changed the most in our rankings?
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
Breece hall could be much lower and the player could be much higher so iron him. Yes, so I will. So he was I think the 21st or 22nd player on my final big board when we got to the draft in Green Bay this past year. He ended up going 22nd overall to the Chargers. Ashton Genti is a superior prospect to me. I thought it was a decent gap as well. There's a chance that Omarion Hampton has a better outlook for fantasy sooner than later this season for Ashton Genti. The biggest detriment for for Amar and Hampton is of course that Najee Harris was also signed to a contract. Najee is fine, right? Like he's not this star running back. He's going to get a ton of time, but he's also not a bum. Right. Like Najee Harris. Say whatever you want about his. The idea of drafting him with the first round pick by the Steelers all those years ago. He's fine, right. Like he is a league median running back maybe a little better than that. Right?
Daniel Dopp
Sure.
Field Yates
Right now he's not practicing. He had this very unfortunate fourth of July fireworks incident that's impacted as I. We don't know when he's going to be back. Yeah, I don't think it's going to cost him the full season or anything like that. He could be back tomorrow. But right now Amarian Hampton's getting an opportunity to earn RB1 status for the Chargers. It is the perfect scheme for him. They just want to beat the crap out of you at the point of attack and win with power. And that's what Omarion Hampton does. I think I called him 240 on the podcast yesterday. Sometimes you get excited, you get you over inflate things. Maybe a 220, 221 pound back.
Daniel Dopp
Okay.
Field Yates
Who runs a four four five man. Part of me was like, do I just throw him into like RB11?
Daniel Dopp
Doesn't that just feel. And in a Jim Harbaugh led offense where you like, it feels like Justin Herbert's going to have some weapons to be able to make defenses have to play back. You're going to have to respect Justin. Justin Herbert and these wide receivers totally.
Field Yates
And if for some reason Najee is not available by week one, we're putting the cart before the horse. But if he's not available in Brazil when they play, I believe the Chiefs in week one in Brazil, the Chiefs, Martin Hampton would probably be a top 10 running back. For me.
Daniel Dopp
It's going to be. It's going to be tough to keep him out of there if he's not splitting time because that's the Reason why we had him where he was was because of that potential committee volume with. With Najee.
Field Yates
Yeah. Let me just clarify the part that I said about him and Ashton Genti and the value being like, really close sooner than later. Like, if Omar Hampton becomes the guy in the Chargers offense, this team is so. Is good enough that I don't think they're going to have to like, commit to throwing the football and they could just be grinding people out on the ground. There's a world. I don't think this is a likely world, but like, the Raiders are just a hot mess because they play in a really tough division and Genti just gets bottled up a little bit because they're just not an effective offense. I don't think that's likely. But my confidence in the Chargers being good is higher than my confidence in the Raiders being good. Playing on a good offense equates to good things.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, very much so. I agree with that. Those are two interesting names here in that list field. Another one that I've just. I don't. I don't know. And he's a little bit farther down my list. I'll just mention this. My B tier is Josh Jacobs, Kyron Williams, James Cook and Alvin Camaro. That's the beginning of my RB2s, my middle tier, RB2s, which for me is the C tier. You have already listed all of these guys.
Field Yates
Yep.
Daniel Dopp
But that's Kenneth Walker iii, Breece Hall, James Connor, Chuba Hubbard and o' Marion Hampton. I feel like when I look at these guys, the one guy that you have up here that I just have some questions on, we haven't ranked similarly is DeAndre Swift. I still don't totally know how to be able to approach DeAndre Swift in this offense over 1300 yards from scrimmage last year, but he never found like that Lions passing game volume that he had. They didn't use him. Utilize him like that in Philadelphia last year. They didn't really utilize him like that in this offense. And now obviously, with Ben Johnson coming in, we. Everybody is basically making comparisons to how can Ben Johnson turn this team into what the Lions were last year. Is he. Is he this guy's version of Jameer Gibbs?
Field Yates
He. I don't think he's that.
Daniel Dopp
I don't think he's that fit.
Field Yates
I think he's, you know, the idea is like, can you get a discount version of Jameer Gibbs things going in his favor. And we've said this about every Bears player we've talked about so far. So let's Just repeat it. The Ben Johnson bump. Right again. Mastermind. Offensive coordinator. Better offensive line. Much better offensive line, which certainly helps DeAndre Swift.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
On top of that, the only player the Bears really added this off season, the backfield, is Kyle Manungai from Rutgers. I think it was in the seventh round. Manga's a good player. Never fumbled in his college career. Never. He's awesome. Like I think he's a name that has my attention. He's like a deep sleeper.
Daniel Dopp
Okay.
Field Yates
But there's not a super threatening presence for DeAndre Swift right now. Oh really is a capable pass catcher and what should be a better offense. And I do believe that the offensive line gives the rushing attack a much better outlook as well.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, absolutely. When I look at this, do you mind if we move on to the next tier? It will be yours.
Field Yates
Yeah. You throw me names and I'll just.
Daniel Dopp
You know my D tier. It's my D tier. It's field C tier. This is What I consider RB2 is in a time share plus Isaiah Pacheco coming off of a down year. So you got Pacheco just a little higher than me. Although if we just want to quickly mention him like what's changed for Isaiah Pacheco this year other than being healthy? The offense hasn't changed a whole lot. I'm still after watching Kareem Hunt, I'm less concerned this year.
Field Yates
Totally.
Daniel Dopp
He was not efficient in any way shape or form. I know that they added Brashard Smith. Right.
Field Yates
Seventh round pick. So like manang guy like deeper sleeper as well. Right. If he was such a sure thing to be a big factor for them then it would have taken him sooner than the seventh round. Right. He's a former Miami wide receiver who became an SMU running back who is a obviously effective in the passing game. But yes, I think Pacheco is a good value here.
Daniel Dopp
This is a good discount based on what happened. I mean I think you're getting an injury discount on him here. So my next tier running back 20 for me the D tier would start with Joe Mixon, then David Montgomery, then DeAndre Swift and Aaron Jones, then I've got RJ Harvey and Isaiah Pacheco.
Field Yates
Let me give you the scariest name on that list.
Daniel Dopp
Give it to me.
Field Yates
Joe Mixon.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, I'm nervous right now.
Field Yates
I'm comparably confused by Joe Mixon as to where I'm at with Breeze Hall. Very cloudy injury situation right now for Joe Mixon. Yeah, he's on the non football injury list and I'm Going to try to refrain from going down like dorky salary cap or collective bargaining agreement stuff. The non football injury list is a list that you put a player on when he has an injury that was either suffered doing something non football related. You're playing basketball and twist your wrinkle. You go in the NFI or when training away from the team facility.
Daniel Dopp
Okay.
Field Yates
Like, so that. That the implication of Joe Mixon being on the NFI list is that this is not the same injury that limited him last season. Yeah, Right. Because if it was the same injury as last season, you would go on pup like Chris Godwin. Right, Right. So I don't know what's going on here. I use that point to suggest that there are way more questions than answers right now. I'm super nervous about Joe Mixon's availability for this, for the beginning of the season. Who knows for a while, but who the heck steps up behind him if Joe Mixon isn't available?
Daniel Dopp
Dude. So like, is it Nick Chubb? Because Nick Chubb felt. I don't want to say this the wrong way. Nick Chubb was an awesome running back. We love Nick Chubb. Nick Chubb, last year felt like the Browns just wanted to, like, have good feelings to get him on the field.
Field Yates
Dude, it was it. I mean, he and Kareem Hunt, like, played a decent amount, but it wasn't like either of them in different teams, obviously. But like, you were just saying with Kareem Hunt, like, you're not convinced he can be the guy. No, I'm not convinced that Nick Chubb can be the guy. Heck, his coach to Miko Ryan's a couple days ago was being like, was sort of tamping down expectations for him. So I believe that. Bri. Excuse me. That Joe Mixon is the same, maybe the scariest player right now in fantasy football.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
But I have zero idea. Like, you could be drafting him and then not see him on the field for a long, long time.
Daniel Dopp
I feel like. And I've got him in this range as well, but this is one of those guys I just don't. I can't give you a number field. I just want to say the vibes don't feel good to me. And when I'm drafting, if I have to look at him versus someone that I just have a more positive outlook on, I'm probably just going to keep passing. Eventually it'll get to a point where I'm. I will have to say, like, wow, Joe Mixon is just clearly better than this guy. And if he doesn't play, then he's fallen far enough that this draft stock isn't going to crush my team. Right. I won't not win a championship because of that. But vibes do not feel good for Joe Mixon there.
Field Yates
Totally agreed on that. So let's get to my C tier here, which does include Joe Mixon. Okay. But I thought about moving him further and further down. I'm sort of erring on the side of. Let's wait for a bit more information.
Daniel Dopp
And as we get more news, we'll.
Field Yates
Continue to update that Joe Mixon, RJ Harvey Travion Henderson.
Daniel Dopp
Yep.
Field Yates
Brian Robinson Jr. Tyrone Tracy, Javante Williams, Quin Sean Judkins A note. Judkins, still in the middle of a legal situation, has not yet signed his contract. Very, very severe allegations there. J.K. dobbins, Jalen Warren, Austin Eckler Travis Etn, Ramondre Stevenson. A lot of question marks here, Daniels. Let me just give you a couple of the names that I really enjoy in this tier.
Daniel Dopp
Yep.
Field Yates
Travion Henderson. Oh, I think there's a chance that he is this year's Bucky Irving.
Daniel Dopp
Ooh.
Field Yates
And I don't mean that they play the same style of game, but last year the Buccaneers started the season relying more on Rashad White. There was sort of like a deference and not a seniority. He's only a little bit older than Bucky Irving, but like you're the Arab, you're the incumbent starter. Yeah, we're going to rely on Rashad White. The Patriots last offseason, I would argue, curiously paid Ramon Dre Stevenson this big extension. He obviously was the guy in their backfield last year wasn't very good 3.9 yards per carry. Like there's to me not a lot of upside in Ramondre Stevenson this year. Yeah, Trayvon Henderson can flat out go super explosive runner, extremely talented out of Ohio State. A factor in the passing game as well. Second round pick. Like I think it was 37 somewhere in that 35 to 40 range for Travion Henderson. If you told me by like week five or six Henderson's outpacing Stevenson by a healthy amount, well, I won't be surprised at all. Like in some ways the strongest argument for Ramondre Stevenson is his contract, which if I say from the beginning that I thought it was a weird and ill fated decision to sign to that contract in the first place. Yeah, this is different than when if the Rams signed Kyron Williams, which I would understand because he's a really valuable piece of what they do. And Sean McVeigh loves the guy.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
Henderson has my attention, I think.
Daniel Dopp
And I'm glad you said this because this was going to be one of the questions that I asked you because it's sort of how I feel. Do you believe that at some point this season we will absolutely see a changing of the guard and Trayvon Henderson will become the lead back in that Patriots backfield?
Field Yates
I think it's definitely possible.
Daniel Dopp
It's. It seems like it's. Obviously we're not going to say it's definitive and it's definitely going to happen, but it's definitely one of those things where it's like I not only like you said, would I not be shocked, but I'm kind of expecting it to happen given what he was at Ohio State field. You don't draft a guy that high.
Field Yates
Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
When you just have another running back in a modern receivings and I don't think that they're going to be able to split the same way that you see some of these other running backs split. I think Travon Henderson is just going to come in and show the Patriots what he can do. So I love him. I love him a lot. You got a couple of rookie running backs right in here.
Field Yates
Yeah, I mentioned Judkins. Again, we're going to table most of the fantasy conversation.
Daniel Dopp
That's really tough.
Field Yates
Legal one legal battle. But the Browns had high, high hopes for him as a player. Let me throw a couple more names here. Daniel. Again, we're getting further and further from one, so it's. It's harder to pin down exactly where to go. I'm going to use this player as sort of a table setter for the entire backfield that he plays in. Travis Etn, what do you do?
Daniel Dopp
Boy, that one's a tough one because we know how good Travis Etn can be. But also you kind of just mentioned this. Liam Cohen comes in and what does he do in the draft? Goes out and drafts a guy named Bashal Tutin. Now, it wasn't like super high. Right. It wasn't a first or second round pick. I think it was a fourth round pick.
Field Yates
Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
But there it's enough to give me a little bit of a pause with the idea of like Travis Etn did not look fantastic last year. You also saw Tank Bigsby come on and kind of take some of that workload and now they draft another running back when he's not the guy that, that this, you know, front office brought in. It just makes you wonder what's this offense going to or what's this season going to look like for him.
Field Yates
So here's the good news for all three of them. The cost is so low.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. It doesn't cost you a lot.
Field Yates
Your team is not going to be ruined because you used whatever the 103rd pick on Travis ETN. Right. That. That's the reality. The question I think you have to spin it towards is, can you find gold with one of these guys? And some of the training camp reporting has suggested that Tank Bigsby could be the guy that leads the team and carries etn. Obviously still a very talented running back, but like the Breeze hall conversation, he's no longer one of the guys here. Right. This is a new GM and James Gladstone and Basil Tutin before Virginia Tech.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, sorry.
Field Yates
Okay, okay. Like, I think like Basil, like the, like the herb.
Daniel Dopp
Thank you. I appreciate that.
Field Yates
He is. What he is is. He's small, but he's super explosive. 4, 3, 3 at the combine. Fastest running back in the entire draft class amongst those that went to the combine. So there's probably two ways to look at it. One of the three is a lottery ticket or all three of them are just kind of.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
Capital you don't need to spend.
Daniel Dopp
Do you want the negative side where it's like, I don't want a backfield with three running backs, or do you want the upside? Which to me is I think Liam Cohen showed us last year that even with two running backs in his offense, he can give us some fantasy value. Right. I mean, Bucky Irving and Rashad White both had plenty of fantasy value for fantasy managers down the stretch.
Field Yates
Totally.
Daniel Dopp
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Field Yates
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Daniel Dopp
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Field Yates
Oh, sorry. Namaste.
Daniel Dopp
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Field Yates
1-800-Contacts. Two other backfields that I'll mention, I'll kind of throw them together because they have a little bit of a similar situation going on. RJ Harvey and JK Dobbins, if we had this conversation May 15, RJ Harvey's probably RB20.
Daniel Dopp
He's in your B tier. Yes, with all the rest of the.
Field Yates
And they signed J.K. dobbins. I think I mentioned this during the mock draft on Monday, but to repeat, on Saturday, I was doing the Back Together weekend show of NFL Live and Shefty was on the show and he was talking about how the Broncos weren't planning or seeking to sign a running back like J.K. dobbins, but they got, and I'm paraphrasing here, basically that the value was so good that they were like, why not bring him in, right? Like, let's get good depth for a moderate cost. Which suggests, I mean, the team really liked RJ Harvey. But JK Dobbins is just good enough. He's a good player, right? Like, he's, he played really well last year.
Daniel Dopp
Absolutely.
Field Yates
That he is going to be obviously has a negative impact on RJ Harvey's value. So that's a running back, a backfield where two guys could have enough of a roll each week to give you flex value. So could the Giants. Yeah, this one's tough. Tyrone Tracy Jr. Was really good last season. Like Tyrone Tracy had. Like, I think the Giants have two good players in the backfield. Like, Tracy was running hard last year. He's obviously a weapon in the passing game. You may have recalled he played wide receiver for the first four years of his college career. But they drafted Cam Scatterboo, who I loved, out of Arizona State.
Daniel Dopp
Everyone, a lot of people love Cam Scatter.
Field Yates
He was a great, great player for Arizona state. I mean, 1500 plus rushing yards, 500 plus receiving yards. The guy's a beast. Do you think either of them. Do you think either of those backfields becomes a workhorse backfield, or do you think that we're destined for multiple players in each of them?
Daniel Dopp
I definitely think with the Giants, it feels like we're looking at a committee.
Field Yates
Yep.
Daniel Dopp
It feels like the only way that we also wouldn't have a committee, at least in year one. We're talking about just this year, right in Denver, is if. Is if J.K. dobbins potentially, like, got hurt. I could see them being like, I mean, obviously either JK or.
Field Yates
Or are healthy. I think both. Both of these backfields are shared. Yeah. And.
Daniel Dopp
And then at that point, it kind of. I don't want to say tanks their value, but it definitely brings them down to this second tier or another tier because of the fact that that high end upside now, I don't feel like I can just feel confident. Okay. You know, we've got a really nice matchup for the Broncos this week. RJ Harvey's gonna be a top 15 guy. I don't know. As long as J.K. dobbins is doing pseudo J.K. dobbins stuff that he did last year, I think you're probably looking at more like, flex values for both of these guys.
Field Yates
I would agree on that, which is unfortunate.
Daniel Dopp
Can I ask you, J.K. dobbins, not necessarily like a. He's not a bad pass catcher, but that's not what he's known for.
Field Yates
Yeah. I would say the strength of his game is. Is just running between the tackles.
Daniel Dopp
Is RJ Harvey the very good pass catcher?
Field Yates
Okay. The player count for me, he looked like. Looked like Bucky Irving. Okay. Like this small, but runs big and hard and physical and just, like, imposing.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
Super shifty. Like the player a lot. I had a big, big grade in rjrv, I think, and I don't want to dive too deep into the, you know, me versus consensus rankings, but I think I had him, like, 63rd on the board, which was, like, well above a lot of the people that I respect the most. Grades. I think he went 60th overall.
Daniel Dopp
Wow.
Field Yates
So that was one where I was more in line with how the team that drafted him saw him than the quote, unquote, averages out there of the draft gurus. Anybody else? Anything else from this?
Daniel Dopp
Not in this tier necessarily. I mean, you got a bunch of really good names in here, and unfortunately, we just got to keep moving. Yeah.
Field Yates
With your tears.
Daniel Dopp
All right, so my E tier, this is the end of my weekly starters and Flex options. That's Tony Pollard, Caleb Johnson, Travan Henderson, Quinchon Judkins, which we'll see where he's going to move. And then Javante Williams. All right, now I'm on to my F tier, which is similar to your D tier. And these are my backups to target field. I got Jalen Warren, Ramond, Ray Stevenson, Austin Eckler, Brian Robinson, Tyrone Tracy, Travis etn, Jordan Mason, Najee Harris and Rashad White. Those are the guys that I'm kind of looking at that if anything happened to the incumbent or the guy that I think potentially would be either in front of him or splitting time, all of a sudden their value vaults up. At least our weekly rankings until something changes.
Field Yates
Like it seems to be some positive buzz about Jordan Mason so far this training camp in Minnesota.
Daniel Dopp
Yep.
Field Yates
They traded for him. Right. Like they, they signed him. It was either an offer sheet or they just traded for him and they gave him a new contract as well. So Minnesota seems to want to be a little more balanced in the backfield this year. Yeah. Aaron Jones, remember he kind of lost himself steam. That was something I meant to mention with Alvin Camara. When you're talking about some of these aging veterans, is Camara in week like 1 through 6 is more appealing to me in weeks like 11 through 16. Right. Like, and that's by the way, that's normal. Yeah. Football season's hard. We don't even play the games. And I get tired by like week 12 myself.
Daniel Dopp
This is maybe going too far down there. But if you, if you think about this, Alan Camara missed the final three games last year with a groin injury. If you're Alvin Camara on a team that we definitively know is not going to be good, very likely won't make the playoffs. And now we get into the fantasy playoffs and you're like, boy, I got banged up. Do they just shut me down because I'm a 30 year old running back. He might miss like he did last year. Weeks 14, 15, 16, 17. That's your fantasy playoffs. Because he has nothing to play for. And other than staying healthy for one more season next year.
Field Yates
I would agree on that.
Daniel Dopp
That's some of the concern. Right. With some of these older running backs on maybe bad teams.
Field Yates
I mean, and that, that's. Teams have to protect their players.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
As they get down the stretch.
Daniel Dopp
That's a good point. I didn't thought about that Alvin, until you had mentioned it.
Field Yates
So I think my D tier and your G tier kind of overlap.
Daniel Dopp
Similar. Ish.
Field Yates
D tier for me, Rashad White, Cam Scatterboo. We mentioned Jordan Mason, Taj Spears, Zach Charbonnet, Isaac Garendo, Nick Chubb. It's got a little bit of a bump recently. Najee Harris, Tank Bigsby, Roshan Johnson. Remember how I was saying that like you're looking at the 52nd ranked wide receiver and you're like Jaden Reed's good.
Daniel Dopp
Yep.
Field Yates
Not a lot of these. Like there is a chance that half the guys that I just mentioned are just flat out unusable for fantasy this season.
Daniel Dopp
Correct.
Field Yates
Right. Like Roshan Johnson could easily just be a pure backup.
Daniel Dopp
You know how we talk about DeAndre Swift being the Jameer Gibbs in Ben Johnson's offense. I'm not hearing Roshan being David Montgomery in this offense.
Field Yates
I would agree on that. It seems like Kyle Manungai is who I mentioned earlier is the one that's generated a little more conversation in the early goings of camp.
Daniel Dopp
Yep. Agreed. I think. And you know you've got Nick Chubb here, Isaac Garendo, clearly a backup, but I don't feel like Isaac is going to get much run if CMC is healthy. Zach Charbonnet, we've seen him not really touch the football a lot. If Ken Walker III is healthy and running. Running well like he's.
Field Yates
But he's a very, very great policy. Yes. As last year.
Daniel Dopp
A lot of these guys are great insurance policies.
Field Yates
I mean Charbonnet had two games of 20 plus fantasy points last year and like starting. I think it was like four games for.
Daniel Dopp
And that this is where like that weekly volume like right. He. He will on a weekly basis. If something happens, he can Vault into an RB2 category. Jordan Mason, if, if we know that Austin is going to. Excuse me. Austin. If we know that. Yeah. Is going to miss anytime, then like he's clearly going to be that guy. Rashad White. You know, same with Bucky Irving if he misses any time. So this tier is where it starts to feel like when you're in the draft, how many running backs have you already taken and are you one of those people that likes to grab an insurance back of your own running back or do you want to grab someone else's insurance back to kind of upside that. That maximum volume.
Field Yates
I feel you on that. I do. Of the players that we've recently discussed, Cam Scatter. Boo. Jordan Mason, Zach Charbonnet are the guys that I like the most. Scatterable could be the starting running back. That's totally possible. There's been. I've seen some clips of him Running with the ones. He's a really good player. I think Tyrone Tracy is a talented guy but the investment in Tyrone Tracy a year ago is not significant enough that you're like, well we can't have Cam Scatter Boo be our starting running back because he used a fifth round pick the year prior on Tyrone Tracy.
Daniel Dopp
I think Jordan Mason is my favorite name out of this list that you have just because I still expect that offense even though it's Jim McCarthy. Right. Different quarterback. I still expect the Vikings to be really good and just even in a committee I think he's going to get some goal line work. He'll get some between the tackle work and if anything happens to Aaron Jones like we talked about, he's on a really good offense. So I think he's the my favorite name in this group.
Field Yates
Agreed on that. You want to rip through some of your.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, this is my, I just went through my F tier so this is my G tier and it'll be your E tier. But these are my late round flyers. Mostly in case of injury though is the way I'm looking at it. I had Cam Scatter Boo. You see him a little bit different, a little higher. With the way that they're going to do a committee there. I got Taj Spears, J.K. dobbins, Tank Bigsby, Zach Charbonnet, Roshan Johnson, Isaac Garendo and Tyler Algier, Trey Benson, Jerome Ford and Jade on blue. Jaden Blue. Excuse me. There's two guys actually in this list that I think are interesting to me. I don't feel like Trey Benson is generating a lot of buzz in spite of the fact that they used a decent pick on him last year.
Field Yates
Round pick. Yep.
Daniel Dopp
And James Conner, he did the thing that we didn't expect. He stayed healthy for a full season.
Field Yates
16 games played last year for James Connor.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, we didn't really see Trey Benson with the idea of like hey, we're going to see him at some point to see what we'll get in 2025. But still a little bit of an enigma for me.
Field Yates
I would agree on that. But still like insurance policy absolutely are important. Especially if you're playing in a 10 team league. Right. Like as you get deeper in terms of like larger league sizes, it's just like the pool gets shallower. Right. So the amount of players that you have available that you're taking in late rounds can be a little less sexy. So anyways, yeah. My last tier by the way is Trey Betson, Tyler, Al Jire and Kendrick Miller. Doesn't it feel a lot different. Like the last 20 minutes of yesterday's show on wide receivers. You're just like still like this guy. Still like that guy. Like Darnold Mooney's legit and Jacobi Myers is still good and like those are still starters. Rashid Shahid so good. And now you're like, yeah, like Roshan Johnson.
Daniel Dopp
It's a different, very different. Yeah.
Field Yates
But yeah. Any like big takeaway thoughts from the running back spot this year?
Daniel Dopp
I think one of the biggest things and I realize we're we're not diving into it until we get a little bit more information. But, but I don't know what to do with the Browns. If you told me that Jerome Ford was all of a sudden because we didn't expect Quinchon Judkins to play a number of games this season, he is going to be an unbelievable value based on where he can be drafted.
Field Yates
Yeah. Dylan Sampson, they drafted in the fourth round of Tennessee as well. So last year Quinshon Judkins was at Ohio State and he and Treveon Henderson, he was the power back. Henderson was like the electric back. That would be the idea on paper for him. And Dylan Sampson, Dylan Sampson, who led the SEC in rushing touchdowns last year, he was great at Tennessee. You just don't know. I believe Jimmy Haslam, the owner of the Browns along with his wife Dee, said they are cautiously optimistic on Quinn John Judkins, but once again you haul out the Internet, the accusations are pretty, pretty scary there.
Daniel Dopp
Not great. Is there anyone else in this final two tiers that you feel like, boy.
Field Yates
You gave a good name. I'll give you one name that you gave. It was good, which is Jaden Blue, who was a fifth round pick by the Cowboys at a of Texas. Yeah, super super explosive small guy but can really run. Had ball security issues. Wasn't the most reliable player at Texas. He's the kind of guy that will probably have a few plays in training camp or during the preseason that you're like whoa, he plays very fast. Don't know how likely he is to be the kind of guy that like leads the team and touches in a given game. But Javante Williams and Miles Sanders as your starting running backs. No thank you.
Daniel Dopp
I was just going to say like this feels the the Cowboys running back situation is so not inspiring.
Field Yates
No, nothing about that was like yep, got it. You know, got to make sure I grab one of those two guys.
Daniel Dopp
It feels like Javante Williams is like a not as good version of Ezekiel, like older Ezekiel Elliott. Right. And Then it's like Zeke at resigned and then it's like, is Jaydon Blue? Is James Blue going to be, you know, like Tony Pollard esque? Like, I don't think he's going to have that kind of efficiency as a rookie, but you know, that's kind of the role that you're hoping for if you're going to see some fantasy value from him. Right.
Field Yates
Pollard, another nice pickup. Geez, how good was that guy last year?
Daniel Dopp
Seriously?
Field Yates
301 touches last year for Tony Pollard. He held up masterfully while playing through like an ankle injury through much of last season.
Daniel Dopp
Running backs are very different to me field because when you're going into into drafts and I think we're done with names, I just want to say this from like a strategy perspective. Like when you're going into drafts, it is so much more important. You kind of said this off the top to make sure that you nail the running back position. Wide receiver is deep enough that like I can feel I can go on the waiver wire and we've proven it over the last number of years. You can grab guys that will become consistent starters for your team throughout the season. Running back just feels like, boy, I need at least one guy that is going to be the definitive RB one of my team. And then ideally you have another couple just to be able to be safe with the depth at that position.
Field Yates
The chances of running backs appearing from thin air in the middle of the season are probably pretty low. Wide receivers, we have a decent amount of evidence that a guy can get hot at the right time. Yep. Or because teams play, you know, three wide receivers, often you can just have multiple guys from one offense that like really get it going.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, there's going to be very interesting to see how this works out. Make sure you do some mock drafts, my friends, because this is part of why we do tiers, right. To be able to allow you to go through drafts, see where it is that you would be taking players. And when you get to someone you know on the board, it's like, how different am I am? Do I need to grab this guy? Because like you had said when we're talking about this, I got a big gap between tier 2 or my B tier and my C tier even though they're ranked right next to each other. So this was fun. Can I do one more?
Field Yates
Yeah, let's do it again.
Daniel Dopp
We'll come back and do some tight ends tomorrow.
Field Yates
Yeah, that'd be quicker.
Daniel Dopp
Obviously you will go through more.
Field Yates
25. There's maybe 12 that matter hey, and you know what?
Daniel Dopp
Reach out to us on social media, whether it's Twitter or Blue sky, we would love some questions. We'll probably have some more time, but if you got some questions right now, either going into drafts or people you want to talk about or on the YouTube chat, throw them in there as well. We would love to be able to answer some questions tomorrow. That's going to do it for us today. Make sure that you go check out the hall of Fame game tonight, baby.
Field Yates
Lions 26, Chargers 13.
Daniel Dopp
That would go over right now on the spread right now, I believe it is 32 points is where we're at on the over.
Field Yates
Under overestimating the ability of the Lions third and fourth string.
Daniel Dopp
I think you're properly estimating right now the lion strengths. All right, that's going to do it for us today. Don't forget to love each other, be kind to yourself and we'll see you guys tomorrow.
Field Yates
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Title: Field Yates' 2025 Fantasy Running Back Tiers
Hosts: Field Yates, Daniel Dopp
Release Date: July 31, 2025
The episode begins with Field Yates and Daniel Dopp emphasizing the paramount importance of the running back (RB) position in fantasy football. They highlight the top-heavy nature of RB rankings compared to wide receivers, making RBs more valuable due to limited depth.
Daniel Dopp [00:38]: "If you did not check out yesterday's show, go check out our wide receiver tiers."
Field Yates [00:55]: "Huge show. Huge, gigantic. The most important position in football."
Field and Daniel promote upcoming live shows and draft events, encouraging listeners to participate for an immersive fantasy football experience.
New York City:
Field Yates [04:10]: "7, Gramercy Theater, fantasyfocuslive.com For tickets, 35 bucks."
Philadelphia:
Daniel Dopp [04:14]: "August 14th. That's fantasyfocuslifephilly.com same exact thing. $35 meet and greet."
Bahamas Draft Weekend:
Field Yates [04:26]: "August 21st through 24th... Head on over to bajamar.com/draft if you are interested in going."
Field and Daniel delve into the S Tier, highlighting the elite RBs expected to dominate the fantasy landscape.
Bijan Robinson
Field Yates [08:52]: "Bijan Robinson is the clear cut number one."
Daniel Dopp [09:10]: "If I'm getting 17 games out of CMC, he's the best running back in fantasy football."
Saquon Barkley
Field Yates [11:08]: "He’s built different. One of those guys that like if you look at the players that have not had 436 carries but have had monster workload years, those that have been able to hold up, it has been the likes of Derrick Henry and Saquon."
Daniel Dopp [12:16]: "Historical regression after such a heavy workload."
Jameer Gibbs
Field Yates [14:20]: "Jameer Gibbs plays the game at a different speed... elite pass catcher."
Christian McCaffrey
Field Yates [14:44]: "A healthy Christian McCaffrey is, to me, a pretty decent bet to be the best player in fantasy football that week."
Daniel Dopp [15:54]: "If I get 17 games out of CMC, he's my number one running back."
Ashton Genty
Field Yates [18:18]: "Net gain, not just hype, but builds a solid foundation."
Devon Hn
Field Yates [20:02]: "Two different paths to becoming an elite player."
The discussion transitions to the A Tier, featuring RBs with high upside but with slight mitigating factors compared to the S Tier.
Derrick Henry
Field Yates [25:35]: "The biggest mitigating factor is that he does not catch a ton of passes."
Josh Jacobs
Daniel Dopp [26:49]: "Second most touches of his career last year."
Jonathan Taylor
Field Yates [26:52]: "Like Derrick Henry light."
Chase Brown
Daniel Dopp [27:26]: "Third in goal-to-go touches over that span."
Bucky Irving
Field Yates [27:35]: "Can carry the ball 200 plus times."
Kyron Williams
Field Yates [28:13]: "Not going to catch a ton of passes."
James Cook
Field Yates [29:09]: "Held up masterfully while playing through injuries."
Field Yates [25:12]: "These guys are all awesome players with top five upside."
Field introduces a comprehensive B Tier, categorizing RBs who possess potential but come with various concerns or uncertainties.
Breece Hall
Field Yates [32:25]: "Feels like RB18. Stay away feels too strong."
Alvin Kamara
Daniel Dopp [54:47]: "Concern about declining efficiency and injury risks."
Chuba Hubbard & Breece Hall
Field Yates [31:20]: "Breno Hall looked like he could be a centerpiece but now feels uncertain."
DeAndre Swift
Daniel Dopp [38:45]: "Questions about utilization in the current offense."
Tony Pollard
Daniel Dopp [61:26]: "Held up masterfully despite injuries."
Field Yates [31:28]: "Breece Hall has never topped 1,000 yards rushing."
Field and Daniel express concerns about specific players' health and workload, emphasizing the importance of versatility and durability.
Daniel Dopp [12:56]: "Potential for regression and injury with heavy workloads."
Field Yates [17:57]: "Christian McCaffrey is one of those guys where you just have to be on one side of the coin."
They also discuss strategies such as diversifying RB selections to mitigate risks associated with injuries and workload management.
Daniel Dopp [62:36]: "It is so much more important to nail the running back position."
Field Yates [62:36]: "Running back just feels like, boy, I need at least one guy that is going to be the definitive RB one of my team."
The conversation moves to later tiers, highlighting potential sleeper picks and backups who could provide value if given the opportunity.
Field Yates [56:23]: "Travion Henderson can flat out go super explosive runner."
Daniel Dopp [58:14]: "Jordan Mason is a favorite due to the Vikings' balanced offense."
Field and Daniel wrap up with strategies emphasizing the critical nature of selecting reliable RB1s early in drafts and the importance of depth to handle injuries and performance fluctuations throughout the season.
Field Yates [62:36]: "Wide receiver is deep enough that I can feel I can go on the waiver wire."
Daniel Dopp [62:36]: "Running back just feels like, boy, I need at least one guy that is going to be the definitive RB one of my team."
They encourage listeners to engage in mock drafts and utilize tier-based rankings to optimize their draft strategies.
Daniel Dopp [63:19]: "Make sure you do some mock drafts, my friends, because this is part of why we do tiers."
Field Yates and Daniel Dopp conclude the episode by reaffirming the significance of running back tiers in building a competitive fantasy football team for the 2025 season. They emphasize adaptability and informed decision-making as key components for fantasy success.
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