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Summary

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Fantasy Focus Football – “Panic or Patience: When to Bench, Drop, or Stay the Course?”

Release Date: September 17, 2025
Hosts: Field Yates, Mike Clay, Daniel Dopp
Description: The crew dives into which underperforming or struggling fantasy players are causing panic, deserve patience, or merit a benching/drop. Injury updates, rankings reflections, and player debates lead to actionable advice for Week 3 fantasy managers.

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Episode Overview

This episode focuses on analyzing player performances through two weeks of the NFL season and separating legitimate panic from the need for patience. The hosts go in-depth on several high-profile and buzzy fantasy players, using recent stats, injury data, and depth chart observations to advise who should be trusted, stashed, or dropped. Segments are split between “players who make Field nervous,” Mike’s “guys he wants to talk about,” and Daniel’s “Panic or Patience” scale. The conversation is lively, good-natured, and filled with debates, subtle jabs, and fantasy wisdom.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Paying Off Last Week’s Bets & Punishments (Starts ~04:00)

• The hosts recap the outcomes of fantasy lineup challenges and start-of-the-week picks.
• Mike “loses” and must wear a PLL Connor Field lacrosse jersey as a punishment (04:51).

“Truthfully, Mike, this does not feel like a punishment, but rather a reward. So enjoy it because I’m going to get more cruel going forward.” – Field Yates [03:11]

• Daniel spins the punishment wheel live and lands on “wear a wig” for next week (06:06).

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2. Players Field Is Nervous About (07:15 onward)

A. Minnesota Vikings – Justin Jefferson & T.J. Hockenson

• The offense is uninspiring, with JJ McCarthy not yet clicking at QB.
• Jefferson still has top 10 WR value but has not returned his first-round ADP so far, with only 7 catches through two games.
• Hockenson's target share is concerning, and there’s uncertainty post-knee injury. He’s a fringe TE1 mostly due to the poor state of the position.

“If this Vikings offense does not improve in a hurry, then Justin Jefferson will prove to be a losing pick in the first round… banking on 17 weeks of elite value and you’ve already missed out on two.” – Field Yates [08:06]

• Mike Clay: “Still fringe tight end one, same as you… but it’s going to take the target share going up, and probably a QB change.” [09:53]

B. RB Jordan Mason (Vikings)

• With Ty Chandler out and Mason the expected workhorse, expectations are tempered by a struggling offense. Mike expects he “might play 80% of snaps” but the passing game limitations cap his ceiling (13:15).

C. Ravens TE Mark Andrews

• Mark Andrews, a fantasy staple, now has just one catch in each of his first two games. “Sad. Despondent… Lamar Jackson has been red hot… and Mark Andrews is a ghost.” [13:36]
• Isaiah Likely returning could eat further into whatever small usage remains.

“Certainly can’t start Mark Andrews unless you’re playing in a 20-team league. And even then it might be a stretch.” – Field Yates [14:13]

D. Jaguars WR Brian Thomas Jr.

• Chemistry issues with Trevor Lawrence and a lackluster offense have dropped him outside Field’s Top 10 WRs into WR15 range. “He’s no longer this guy who has a real shot to win you your week.” [19:26]
• Mike notes difficult shadow coverage upcoming (Derek Stingley Jr.)—not a bounce-back week on the horizon.

E. Cardinals WR Marvin Harrison Jr.

• Field questions: “Is Marvin Harrison Jr. the next Kyle Pitts?” (23:16)
• Hype and draft capital not translating to immediate elite usage—he’s producing like a Waddle, DeVonta Smith, or Pickens, not a true WR1.
• Mike brings optimism: the Cardinals have been game-script adjusted 4th heaviest in pass rate but haven’t needed to throw much (they’re leading most snaps). As the team faces better opponents, “the five and six targets are going to turn to seven and eight” [25:26].

F. Raiders RB Ashton Gentry

• Huge volume in week one masked usage issues; was on the field for only 56% of snaps last game, losing passing-down work to Zamir White. Poor OL play is a big part of the problem, but Gentry “is averaging 0.6 yards per catch… people, let me reiterate: negative 0.23 yards per rush before contact.” [29:38]

“If you’re going to draft the running back 6th overall… he better have the skill set to play more than 56% of the snaps.” – Field Yates [27:40]

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3. Notable Segment: “Guys Mike Wants to Talk About” (35:40 onward)

A. Caleb Williams (Bears)

• “I can’t wait for this Bears – Cowboys game… both defenses can’t stop anyone.” – Mike [36:02]
• Williams is a Week 3 streaming start; top 7 for all hosts, thanks to consistent passing and surprising rushing upside.

B. Jerry Jeudy (Broncos)

• “If you can find a way to get him on your bench this week, you do it.” – Mike [38:39]
• Facing a stingy Packers secondary; Jeudy is outside the Top 30 receivers for the second straight week.

C. Seahawks RB Kenneth Walker III

• Mike is more nervous than consensus—Week 2 saw drop-offs in snaps, routes, and targets, despite looking better on the ground.

“You need volume. You can’t just rely on playing a handful of snaps and have elite efficiency. It might be good for Seattle. It’s not good for fantasy football.” – Mike Clay [40:48]

D. Chargers RB Omariyon Hampton

• Snap share dropped from 81% to 62%. Volume still there, but efficiency poor, and split with Najee Harris increasing.

E. Colts WR Keon Coleman

• Massive swing in usage; down to 49% of snaps and 12% target share last week due to heavy rotation and tough matchups.
• But Miami's weak defense in Week 3 provides rebound potential. “One of the widest range of outcomes players right now—he could be WR5 or WR70.” – Mike [46:52]

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4. Daniel’s “Panic or Patience” (47:39 onward)

Each player is rated on a panic scale (1 = no panic/patience; 10 = full panic):

Isaiah Pacheco (Chiefs RB)

• Full panic (10/10): “Can’t even beat out Kareem Hunt right now… committee… he is doubly cooked.” – Daniel [49:23]
• Hosts in consensus; he’s a bench/waiver candidate.

Ladd McConkey (Chargers WR)

• Mild panic (3/10, patience): Limited ceiling due to offensive changes; still a top-25ish WR, but behind Keenan Allen and Quinton Johnston in scoring.

Travion Henderson (Patriots RB)

• Frustrated, but still patient: Ramondre Stevenson is blocking him, but the expectation is the rookie will become RB1 as the season goes on.

A.J. Brown (Eagles WR)

• No panic (1/10): Frustrating usage (just 50 total yards so far), but “all the patience in the world.” The Eagles haven’t had to pass; “devil you dance with” when drafting a WR on a run-heavy team.
• Mike Clay: “They have zero passing touchdowns so far. That’s going to level itself out. We've seen this before.” [59:36]

Evan Engram (Broncos TE)

• Major panic: “Should be on benches, possibly droppable… what a major disappointment.” [61:15]
• Adam Troutman and other pass-catchers have usurped a lot of usage, leaving Engram unstartable.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Justin Jefferson:
  “If this Vikings offense does not improve in a hurry, then Justin Jefferson will prove to be a losing pick in the first round.” – Field Yates [08:06]

• On Mark Andrews:
  “Lamar Jackson has been red hot through two weeks… and Mark Andrews is a ghost.” – Field Yates [13:36]

• On Isaiah Pacheco:
  “Can’t even beat out Kareem Hunt right now… if he can’t beat out Kareem Hunt, who is cooked himself, then Isaiah is doubly cooked.” – Daniel Dopp [49:23]

• On Dynasty Leagues:
  “Everyone should play in a dynasty league is what we’re saying here. It just changes the way you look at things.” – Daniel Dopp [55:16]

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Important Timestamps

• Punishments and lineup recaps: 04:00–06:19
• Field’s “Nervous” Players: 07:15–30:27
• Quick Board Bet Results: 30:27–33:41
• Mike’s Player Spotlights: 35:40–47:21
• Daniel – Panic or Patience?: 47:39–65:06

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Final Recap

Most-discussed Panic Players:

• Mark Andrews, Isaiah Pacheco, Evan Engram

Patience Candidates:

• Ladd McConkey, Travion Henderson, Keon Coleman (possible rebounder)

General Advice:

• Don’t overreact to stars with poor starts (e.g., A.J. Brown, Justin Jefferson), but for TEs and low-upside RB committees, it’s okay to cut bait quickly.
• Monitor usage trends for snap-share declines or changing depth charts.
• Dynasty leaguers should always have their trades ready and capitalize on market swings.

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Episode Tone & Style

Throughout, the hosts keep things lively and self-deprecating, balancing friendly ribbing with actionable advice. They frequently cite ranking thresholds, emphasize context, and reinforce that early season results are not destiny—except, perhaps, at tight end.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Field Yates]

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[Mike Clay]

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[Daniel Dopp]

What's good, friends? Welcome into Fantasy Focus Football alongside Field Jates and Mike Clay. My name is Daniel Doff. Almost didn't get here this morning. I gotta be honest. I got through security but they didn't want to let me through it first. When I, when I did my badge, they were like, are you sure you still have a job? Because Liz loses. Did really well yesterday.

[Field Yates]

Well done.

[Daniel Dopp]

Rushed it by the way.

[Field Yates]

Great job, Liz.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah, she's so awesome as she is. Love having her here in Bristol Field. It's great to see your face.

[Field Yates]

Good to have you guys around again.

[Daniel Dopp]

Mike, great to see you since Sunday.

[Mike Clay]

I think. I know it's been a long time. Has anything happened?

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah. What's happened since then?

[Field Yates]

Nothing.

[Mike Clay]

Anything going on?

[Field Yates]

Nothing important?

[Daniel Dopp]

Nah. No way. No way. Yeah, we had a bunch of things that happened, unfortunately. Uh, we talked about the Joe Burrow injury yesterday. Dove into that obviously waivers. So hopefully those are covered today. We are talking about a bunch of guys here on our Wednesday ranking show. A couple of guys that make field nervous. We're also diving into. We're going to pay off. We're going to pay off our starts of the week. Mike, you lost last week. We'll tell you who lost this week in just a little bit. I also got a panic or patience and Mike, I think you just brought a bunch of guys to the table. You want to talk about.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, I figured, you know, you guys have all these specific categories you ended up file guys into and I just took the extra. I was like, you know what, here's a few guys I'm interested in talking about. So that's what I'm going to do. I don't need, I don't need any gimmicks. What's that in insurance? That's like no gimmicks, no mascots or whatever. The girls like to sing the njm. Yeah, something like that.

[Daniel Dopp]

I think it's.

[Mike Clay]

Can we say that?

[Daniel Dopp]

I don't know if. Yeah, I don't know.

[Field Yates]

I think we're allowed to confirm.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah. So can can't you know that's.

[Field Yates]

We're getting some trouble, Mike.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah, Way to go. We've been on air for 65 seconds.

[Field Yates]

Getting us in trouble. Way to go.

[Mike Clay]

People don't know this. Liz is right here. Just wait. Tap in. As soon as someone messes up, she's. She jumps in, we jump out.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right. Well, speaking of messing up, Mike, your week one starts of the week were not as good as field and eyes. Let's just be honest about that.

[Mike Clay]

In week one.

[Field Yates]

Week one, Correct.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, they weren't as good in week one, but we stepped it up for week two.

[Daniel Dopp]

Well, we're. Well, we got to pay off week one before we dive into week two.

[Mike Clay]

I mean, I'm trying to skip this part.

[Daniel Dopp]

You lost week one. So here's the deal. You've got to wear a jersey of field and ice. Choosing field. What jersey do we have here on tap for Mike?

[Field Yates]

We have.

[Mike Clay]

Of course, it says field on there.

[Field Yates]

Connor Field, one of the best attackmen in the world in the pll. A great season just concluded this past Sunday. Connor is a two time PLL champion. He was once named the attackman of the year in college lacrosse playing at University of Albany. The guy's an absolute sniper and he's got a great last name and absolutely love the jersey number as well. Truthfully, Mike, this does not feel like a punishment, but rather a reward. So enjoy it because I'm going to get more cruel going forward.

[Mike Clay]

At first I saw Fields and I thought after his performance on Sunday, Justin Fields got demoted to like another two weeks. So I thought that's what this was. No, no, this doesn't feel like a punishment. This is.

[Field Yates]

All right, he is cool. But do not take that jersey at the end of it.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yes.

[Field Yates]

I'm not asking for much, but don't take that.

[Daniel Dopp]

But you're not.

[Mike Clay]

You're not allowed. It is a distinct New Jersey smell. Is that the punishment?

[Field Yates]

Well, I washed it for you.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah. Really?

[Daniel Dopp]

That's nice.

[Field Yates]

It's actually game worn.

[Mike Clay]

Maybe something smells in here.

[Field Yates]

It's podcast worn previously.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah, nothing wrong with a podcast warrant. Yes, I have a podcast warrant feel Jades shirt for that home. Yeah, yeah. In the. In the card. You and Chefy both have some cards within the Allen series.

[Mike Clay]

Change my mind. I'm keeping it.

[Field Yates]

Okay.

[Daniel Dopp]

That looks pretty good.

[Field Yates]

I was going to say, unfortunately it looks really good on you.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, it does, it does. I'm kind of liking it.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, well, hopefully you guys don't step up the punishments for me because when we look at week two, I mean, Mike, that's hardly a punishment. But when we look at week two, seems pretty clear. Unfortunate that I came up short in part because Ricky Pearsall Only 9.2 fantasy points. You guys both had some really nice lineups. I had a better tight end and you guys had better everything else.

[Field Yates]

I mean, honestly, I didn't have a nice lineup.

[Mike Clay]

I had a sick lineup.

[Daniel Dopp]

You had a great lineup.

[Field Yates]

I dominated Mike by 10 points. I dominated Daniel by 22.

[Mike Clay]

And oh, you're two and a half.

[Field Yates]

Am I dynastic? Yeah, I'm four and oh, if you think about it.

[Mike Clay]

Uh huh.

[Field Yates]

Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

Oh, wow. I guess if you. Yeah, if we're playing by victory points as well.

[Field Yates]

So just to pay it off for those that are listening right now, not watching, both Mike and I started Drake May at quarterback. Daniel started Justin Herbert. If we can call that back up one more time. I had Javante Williams at running back. Mike had Jalen Warren, David Montgomery. Wide receivers, me, Keenan Allen, Mike Zay, Flowers, Daniel, Ricky Pearsall. And then at tight end, Kyle Pitts for me, David and Joku for Mike. And nice call by Daniel. Joanne Johnson in week two. A reminder, each of these players is outside a specific threshold. If we wanted to do Lamar Jackson and Christian McCaffrey and Jamar Chase every week, it would be a very boring segment as well. So anyways, we are now two weeks into it, which means Daniel now gets to spin the wheel. Did you spin the wheel for yourself last week? You did. Okay. Do you want a trial run or you just were to let it rip?

[Daniel Dopp]

No, I'll let it rip. I don't mind being able to do that. I'll move this as close as I can. I'll move this over here. So we got it. There we go.

[Field Yates]

Before you do it, is there anything that you really don't want it to land on and is there something that you really do want it to land on?

[Daniel Dopp]

No, I would be okay with basically all of these things. What I don't want it to land on is an ice bath because I want that to be Mike Clay's punishment later on in the season.

[Mike Clay]

We're not removing from the board.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah, yeah. So that one's. We'll see. Now that I've said it, I probably will.

[Field Yates]

Yeah, It's a guarantee. Guarantee it.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, here we go. I'm gonna roll the wheel. Spin the wheel. Spin the wheel.

[Field Yates]

You can roll a wheel, but that would be painful, probably for the wheel.

[Daniel Dopp]

Feels good for those at home. That's Going around. Going around. And we're gonna end on.

[Mike Clay]

Wear a wig.

[Field Yates]

Wear a wig.

[Mike Clay]

All right.

[Daniel Dopp]

I'm not sure there's room for more hair on top of my. I don't know how that's going to work.

[Field Yates]

Hopefully we have budget for a wig and we'll find something completely ridiculous off of Amazon that you can wear next week. Congratulations.

[Daniel Dopp]

Hey. Thank you very much. All right. Well, that's not too bad.

[Field Yates]

Honestly, it's not bad. I felt like the punishments are generally pretty benign. I play in a fantasy league with a bunch of my buddies locally and we have a punishment wheel for the lowest score each week. It's a 14 team league and there are a couple of punishments that. Not going to lie to you. Little harsh. We have a buyback. If you spin and you don't like it, you can put money towards the pot, get a second spin.

[Daniel Dopp]

I like that.

[Field Yates]

So it's going to hurt your wallet, but it avoids some punishments that probably no one wants to see.

[Daniel Dopp]

Well, let's make sure you keep on sending in your punishments. In our YouTube chat, our buddy Eric Moody is hanging out in there right now answering questions from everybody live while we do the show. But if you have anything else that you think should end up on our punishment wheel for this season, we're doing this every single week, so make sure you throw them in there. I was nervous about few options that were on their field, but I know I'm not the only one that's nervous today as you've got a few guys that make you nervous here heading into week three.

[Field Yates]

That's right. So a reminder, I'm going to do Guys make me nervous. Daniel's gonna be doing Panic or Patience, and Mike is gonna be doing kind of a miscellaneous segment to cover some players that we don't cover in these first two segments.

[Mike Clay]

Okay.

[Field Yates]

These are players that make me nervous going into week three. And we'll talk about Halloween.

[Daniel Dopp]

I am very nervous right now.

[Field Yates]

It's kind of spooky. We're about a month and a half away from Halloween. I'm gonna start with teammates. I'm gonna lump them into one category to begin, and again, I'm gonna give you the actionable part of it on the back end as well. Vikings wide receiver Justin Jefferson and T.J. hawkinson. So they fit into different categories, but they play in the same offense. And I talked about this a little bit yesterday with the running backs, which we'll dive into more throughout the week. It's not that Justin Jefferson is no longer startable in fantasy he's very much startable. He is a top seven tight end, excuse me, wide receiver. In all of our rankings this week, I'm lowest at wide receiver 7. The problem is this. We say all the time in the preseason, you can't win your drafts in the first round, but you can lose it in the first round. And if this Vikings offense does not improve in a hurry, then Justin Jefferson will prove to be a losing pick in the first round. He's got seven catches. Seven in the first two games. He was saved by a touchdown in week one. This offense looks all out of sorts. Yes, J.J. mcCarthy has played a total of eight quarters. Of course, there are reasons to believe this offense could get better in a hurry. Carson Wentz might actually help the offense. As crazy as that sounds, there's a non zero chance that Carson Wentz helps the offense. But again, the point is not that like it can't get better. The point is that when you draft a guy in the first five picks, you're banking on 17 weeks of value. Not maybe 13 or 12 or 10. Hey, he gets going at some point. You're banking on 17 weeks of elite value and you've already missed out on two of those with Justin Jefferson. He's still inside my top 10 of wide receivers, but he makes me nervous. Let me do Hawkinson and you guys can tell me if I'm right. Wrong, somewhere in between. Hawkinson has just been a non factor. He's just been a non factor in this offense. I don't know if that's because this offense in general has played slower and had fewer passing attempts and been inefficient or and I don't. I hope this isn't the case. Is TJ Hawkinson the same player he was prior to that gnarly knee injury? He's very far removed from it now. It was at the end of the calendar year or maybe it was either January of 2020 or December of 2023.

[Mike Clay]

Yes.

[Field Yates]

Far enough removed that you would think it's no longer a problem. But he certainly hasn't been the same guy. He's tight end 10 for me this week and that truly is a sign of how bad tight ends are. Not about anything that Hawkinson has done so far himself. Thoughts?

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, well said. I think that for Hawkinson specifically, we need the target share to go up closer to where he has been. It is 17%, so it could be much worse. But he's been on the field for the most part. Hopefully Carson Wentz will just decide to rely on him A little bit more. That's kind of the risk with a quarterback changes. Sometimes guys just don't like throwing to running backs or whatever it may be or don't prefer or prefer the tight end or vice versa. Perhaps Carson Wentz will go his direction a little bit more often. So again, I'm still fringe tight end one, same as you. And then Jefferson. I agree. I mean, it's gonna, I feel like it's gonna be hard for him to live up to that early first round ADP, but it's the same kind of thing. Like with McCarthy, he, he might. Again, I feel like I'm just repeating what you said. He might not be as good as Carson Wentz. Like Wentz just might be the better option short term. Yeah, and that's like, I like what I'm seeing from McCarthy in some ways. I feel like maybe he has a trajectory of it's going to take a little time. He's still 22 years old. I think someday he'll get there, but obviously it's going to take a little time. So short term, Wentz might be the guy to just manage the offense in terms of getting the ball to Hawkinson, to Jefferson, and in a week from now, Jordan Addison as well.

[Field Yates]

Mike, imagine if you said that Sam Darnold will be better for Justin Jefferson's value a year ago at this time, people would now, come on, dude, Sam Darnold, he stings every time he goes somewhere. The media gets hyped up about him because he was a third overall pick. Yeah, Sam Darnold looked awesome last year and this past Sunday looked really good.

[Mike Clay]

Sometimes the trick is just to get the ball in the hands of your playmakers. And that's something Kirk Cousins did well or has done well throughout his career when he's been, you know, in his prime. That's something. Darnold did well last year. Did well last week as well, to your point. And maybe Wentz can do that. That's kind of what we're looking for in this Minnesota offense, is get the ball in the hands of these guys.

[Daniel Dopp]

I like that you said this, Mike, because one of the things I was going to mention is TJ Hawkinson is not doing well and he's not even competing for targets with Jordan Addison yet. Like, I think we're going to have a better wide receiver join this offense and if TJ Hawkinson is looked this bad to be able to start the season, it makes me really nervous. I'm more nervous about him because of the fact and I advocated for him A bunch. This is a guy coming off of injury. I feel like he wasn't fully back to himself. It was December of 23 when he had that injury and so like he's we're now so far removed from it that these first two weeks have looked so bad. I do want to ask you about another player that's not on here field, but while we're talking about the Minnesota Vikings, Aaron Jones going to ir, he's going to miss four games at least. If I told you guys Jordan Mason is going to be the starter for the next four weeks, I think I would have been more excited than I am now because after the first two games of the season do you still feel like Jordan Mason can be a top 20 guy with this offense and Carson Wentz under center, can he be top 15? How high is too high for Mason?

[Field Yates]

I think right around running back 20 is a reasonable proximity for Jordan Mason and it's a lot of the reasons why he was valuable last year. He's going to see the bulk of the carries. It's a thin backfield behind him that's been impacted by another injury. Ty Chandler on IR as well. They're a third running back and on top. But as we know with Jordan Mason it's all about the generally limited pass catching skillset.

[Daniel Dopp]

So if this offense had been clicking out the gate I could have seen him maybe being like a top 15 or a little bit higher than that because you felt like the Vikings are playing well. But with them not playing well it feels like they got a lot of wrongs.

[Field Yates]

Wrongs to right RB23 for me this week. Let me go to my next play.

[Mike Clay]

And just really quick. You know their backup running back is.

[Field Yates]

Now it's isn't it Xavier Scott, right?

[Mike Clay]

Xavier Scott. I mean who Cam Acres on the practice squad they have Xavier Falladay. But the point is like Mason might just get a 4 dump off targets now. He might have to. He might play 80% of the snap. So I definitely think he should be in lineups. Yep.

[Field Yates]

I think kmakers will be active this Sunday is my guess. Would be surprised if he plays a decent he was playing last year as the two at times.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah. Great.

[Field Yates]

Next up for me and this one should be short and sweet because I think we're all in alignment here. It's Ravens tight end Mark Andrews. I'm not even sure nervous is the right word. Sad. Despondent. Both of those work as well. Lamar Jackson has been red hot through the first two weeks. He had four passing touchdowns last week. I think he had four total touchdowns the week before. Bottom line is this Lamar's on a heater through two games because he's Lamar Bleeping Jackson and Mark Andrews is a ghost. One catch in back to back games. Certainly can't start Mark Andrews unless you're playing in a 20 team league. And even then it might be a stretch. On top of that, who's been unavailable the first two weeks of the season?

[Daniel Dopp]

Isaiah likely.

[Field Yates]

Yeah, and Isaiah likely could play. Could play as soon as this Sunday. It's. It's all kinds of. It's. You know, there were some signs. I mean obviously last year the target chair dropped. It certainly felt like this off season Mark Andrews was a possibility to not return to the Ravens. He's back. Isaiah likely gets hurt. Glimmer of hope he's still a great red zone target, but for now does not belong in lineups out here, great.

[Daniel Dopp]

Mornings sound a little different.

[Field Yates]

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[Daniel Dopp]

Animals all need a little more and.

[Field Yates]

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[Mike Clay]

Customers agree he has seven yards in two games. Like I don't know how you can start him. I don't know how you could start him right now. And you're right, I don't. I wonder what's going to happen when Like Likely comes back as Andrew's just I mean he's playing almost 80% of the snaps the two games and it's a non factor. So I'm very nervous and I don't like on another team. I might wonder if he gets traded when Likely's back and healthy but they're going for a Super bowl ring this year so I feel like they're just going to keep their talent around, not be sellers. But it's a situation to monitor also.

[Field Yates]

Like what can you get from Mark Andrews in the final year of his contract making $14 million, probably eating a bunch of money to get back a minimal draft return. Right next player for me and we've been talking about him already this week. Mike obviously was not here on Monday or Tuesday, but for me It's Brian Thomas Jr. Jaguars wide receiver who has moved outside the top 10 for me and the question becomes whether I'm too optimistic at wide receiver. 15. You know we talked about this. Maybe I talked a little bit too much around it on the podcast because some people are like have you not seen everybody else's video on the Internet about how disparaging some of the film is From Brian Thomas Jr. In the first two games we talked about the chemistry being off between him and Trevor Lawrence. There are things that sometimes feel difficult to talk about directly because we don't know exactly what the chemistry is like between him and Trevor Lawrence. They could be best friends, they could be neighbors for all we know. I don't know this. I'm just sort of gleaning it based off what it looks like on tape. And the bottom line is 12 targets is great, but when you're catching a third of them and your quarterback and you are on a different page and your offense is not playing like it was at the end of last season, like all of these things are reasons to feel like Brian Thomas Jr. Is no longer this guy who has a real shot to win you your week, which is where he was last year for the final six games of the season with Mac Jones. The defense has probably been a bigger strength for the Jaguars through two games in the offense. They've got five interceptions like it wasn't the defense's fault that they lost last week. They picked off Jake Browning three times. I had this team backwards in the preseason. It would appear you have to cling on to hope. I'm still going to have him inside the lineups of all the teams that I have Brian Thomas Jr. On and I have a lot of him. But it doesn't feel great.

[Mike Clay]

Nope. Yeah, it's a tough star and I don't want to kind of continued to.

[Field Yates]

Pile on, but no, go for it.

[Mike Clay]

Derek Stingley Jr. Shadow here in week three is not going to make things easy. Shadowed Mike Evans and Devonte Adams already and they combined for 17 fantasy points. So he shot at him last year too. And, and Thomas had a decent game away from his coverage. But I'd like seven yards when that matched up with Stingley in that game. So I don't know, I don't know if this is the week he gets back on track. You're kind of just hoping he catches a 23 hour touchdown to save your day.

[Daniel Dopp]

If that happens, do you think I understand that you're nervous Field when you, when you say this at some point do you say to yourself like I gotta throw in like a. Just a buy low trade offer though? Because he's still Brian Thomas Jr. Right.

[Field Yates]

Like I've yet to meet a buy low trade opportunity that I didn't take.

[Daniel Dopp]

Right. It's like fortune favors the bold. If Brian Thomas has been tough through the first three weeks, okay, I'm gonna hope that like the, the ship will write itself throughout the season. But if, especially if after week three he comes out and doesn't look great. I mean, it feels like you could. I don't want to say pennies on the dollar because people still have the name value of Brian Thomas Jr. But I think I would throw out a trade offer for BTJ if he struggled with that.

[Mike Clay]

Obviously, we're. I mean, if we're worried, you know, other people are panicking for sure. Absolutely. So, yeah, it might be your opportunity if you think he's going to rebound. And remember, he has never played at this elite level. He's never played at an elite level with Trevor Lawrence, with Mac Jones. He was okay with Lawrence, but it was Mac Jones. It really peppered him with targets and got him over the top and. Yep. So we have to see it.

[Field Yates]

My guy. Mack Jones, fantasy moneymaker. Let's go.

[Daniel Dopp]

That's right. That's right. All right, next one.

[Field Yates]

Feel Jates. Next one. And this one's a little bit different than the others so far. It's Cardinals wide receiver Marvin Harrison Jr. Wasn't great this past week, and this one's a little bit less specific to week three. He's wide receiver 26 on my board, which is actually seven spots ahead of Daniel. It's more about sort of the holistic stance on Marvin Harrison Jr. I uttered these words in the preseason, and it was almost like I hesitate to say these things because I don't want them to become true two weeks in. I'm starting to wonder if they are becoming true. Is Marvin Harrison Jr. The next Kyle Pitts? That's what I mentioned during the preseason. They don't play the same position, obviously. Coincidentally, they were both drafted fourth overall, but it was outsized hype met by a skill set that is definitely good. These guys are not talentless. Kyle Pitts became the second tight end in NFL history to have a thousand or more receiving yards as a rookie. He's got game, clearly. Clearly. But it was just outsized expectations from the start that are attached to a player, and you continue to expect those things to happen, and he gets drafted accordingly. And it's just not. It's a little bit of an oil and water fit with him and Kyler Murray right now. You know, Jonathan Gannon, their head coach, is asked about this all the time now, Right. Because I think there are people that see the talent that cover him locally and say to themselves, like, why is he not getting the ball more? And Jonathan Gannon has a pretty consistent answer. Like, I think the most recent response was something to the effect of, it's not about the targets for me. It's about is the ball going where the ball is supposed to go? And again, I go back to the logic that I have stated a thousand times before, which is that the Cardinals had an opportunity to turn pick four into lots of other picks if they didn't feel like Marvin Harrison Jr. Was going to be a guy that you would build your entire offense around and pepper with somewhere between eight and ten targets a game. My argument would be that you should not be drafting that player fourth overall. You should instead turn pick four into pick number 11, plus two extra firsts or something like that. Diversify the portfolio. They seem to disagree because at least the offensive staff disagrees with that assessment. That I think the front. The front office probably agrees with that assessment because they were the ones that were making the pick. Right. It's frustrating, though. It's super frustrating. And we got a glimmer of hope in week one when he found the end zone, so there was some good. I'm not. It's not like Marvin Harrison Jr. Is no longer usable. Right. But are we going to go into next year in drafts and be, like, talking about Marvin Harrison Jr. In the same vein that we talked about Jalen Waddle coming into this season? What I mean by that is, like, he's a good player. If things break right, it could happen, but nobody was sitting there. Like, I absolutely must draft Jalen Waddle early.

[Mike Clay]

I think.

[Daniel Dopp]

I think he's Jalen Waddle, devontae Smith, George Pickens, like, level volume. Like, I think he's a better player than that. But, like, I think. I think I need to reset my expectation with the idea that I should expect five to eight targets per game from Marvin Harrison Jr. And stop holding the expectation that he will see eight to 10 to 12 targets.

[Mike Clay]

I'm more optimistic than you guys. You ready for this?

[Daniel Dopp]

Okay.

[Field Yates]

Yes.

[Mike Clay]

Check this out.

[Daniel Dopp]

Hey, we.

[Field Yates]

That is amazing.

[Mike Clay]

All right, you ready?

[Field Yates]

Fowler produced that.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah. Oh, he did it. Yeah. We take that in the off season. We actually work in the off season. Okay. We don't just go on vacations. All right.

[Daniel Dopp]

Daniel, I don't know. You were the one. I thought you might be the one that didn't show up for the first.

[Mike Clay]

Time, but I did my job.

[Daniel Dopp]

That's what it was.

[Mike Clay]

All right, check this out. Arizona has operated the game script. Adjusted fourth pass, heaviest offense in the NFL through two games. However, they have led on 70% of their offensive snaps. That's third highest in the NFL. So six targets in week one from Marvin Harrison, five targets in week two. They're going to play more competitive games. I know the defense is on the ascension. The offense is playing fine. They've had some easier games so far. They're going to have to throw the ball more against better teams. And when they do that, the five and six targets are going to turn to seven and eight targets. For Marvin Harrison, the 21% target share, I want that to be higher. I need it to be closer to say 25, 26, 27%. I think we can get there. But the bottom line is they're trying to throw the ball. They just haven't had to. Yeah, they've been leading and we're not used to that. From Arizona this week they play San Francisco. This is a secondary that you can take advantage of. Amadeur, Lenore, Renardo, Green, Upton, Stout are their three corners. I think you pick on them. I think Harrison, who again to your point, Already has a five for 71 and a touchdown in week one. He's had one of one of two games have been great. I'm more optimistic here. I think he has a big week three and I think as Arizona throws the ball more, it's going to mean big things for Marvin Harris.

[Field Yates]

So that makes me feel better. I'm not going to lie. I still have him four spots higher than you've wide receiver 30. So.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, well, okay.

[Field Yates]

I'm just saying we're still nervous, right?

[Mike Clay]

Like, I'm more optimistic in general, I.

[Field Yates]

Guess, but that makes me feel better. I hope you're way, way, way right. Like, way right. Last one here. And not to sort of kick a player when he's down. What?

[Daniel Dopp]

No, I was going to. I had started to think about whether it was worth it for me to say something and then I decided that it wasn't. Yeah, I like, I am just five targets in week two, six targets in week one. Like that Saints game. That Saints game wasn't in the bag though. Like, I realized they were winning.

[Field Yates]

Arnold's game wasn't either.

[Daniel Dopp]

I mean, the Panthers, like, they were. These were two teams that I expected them to absolutely just like demolish. We're talking the Saints and the Panthers.

[Mike Clay]

I know, but they were just nursing leads throughout these games. It's my point. They were. Trey Benson's had what, eight points in both games at a touchdown? He lied.

[Daniel Dopp]

I mean, we would have rather give the ball to Trey Benson than give the ball to Marvin Harrison Jr.

[Mike Clay]

Teams do. This is why people get mad about the Eagles because they're always ahead and they're like, Where's A.J. brown? Where's Devonte Smith. And then suddenly they're in a competitive game and Brown is 160 yards and two touchdowns. They. They haven't needed to use their wide receivers yet. It's just they haven't tried, hasn't lit it up either. I just think when the games are more competitive like this week, you're going to see more. You're going to see the six turn into eight or nine targets. That's, that's my feeling on it. I think it's been an unusual start to the season for this offense and I think it levels itself out.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right.

[Field Yates]

Okay. Last one for me. And again, not to kick.

[Mike Clay]

Daniel. No.

[Daniel Dopp]

Ashton Genty, worst first round pick of fantasy in 2025.

[Field Yates]

Yes. So far.

[Daniel Dopp]

So far.

[Field Yates]

Yeah. I mean, and I'll say it again, I just don't understand the logic. Along the same lines of the Marvin Harrison Jr. 4th overall. If you're going to draft the running back 6th overall, the reality is the best four years of his career are almost certain to be the first four years of his career or maybe the first six years of his career. Right. You need to maximize everything you get out of this player right away. And if you're drafting him sixth overall, he better have the skill set to play more than 56% of the snaps. And that's what he played on Monday night. So I don't know why. I don't think Raiders fans are going to argue with this one. Like what is the value of Zemir White on the field?

[Mike Clay]

It's. It should be. He gentee just had a 42 yard run, needs a second. That should be.

[Field Yates]

It's one set. That's exactly how I feel, Mike. But the fact that he was seeding like third down work on like the opening drive to Zamir White. Like, are you kidding me? That was frustrating. Here's the glimmer for hope this week for Ashton Genti is two weeks ago against the Patriots. He has 21 opportunities, 86% of the snaps and he finds the end zone. A game they win 20 to 13 this past weekend. They were playing from behind much of the game and they were just. Geno Smith was. I don't even know what happened. Geno Smith, he imploded on Monday night. They play the Commanders on the road. The Commanders are a good team but it might be the Marcus Mariota led commanders. So perhaps this game stays either competitive or stays at least maybe they're winning and they have an opportunity here. The only last thing that I want to do is I want to directly Mention Tom Brady if you're out there listening right now. Tom, during one of your two to three meetings a week with Chip Kelly, could you please advise more Ashton Genty, please. Tom's a big listener of the show.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah, we know that.

[Mike Clay]

Yes, of course. He's studying up for his flag football squad, right?

[Field Yates]

Yes, that's right.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah. I'll say this, he's handled 30 of the 35 running back carries. So in terms of share of the carries, that's good. The problem is he's an 8% target share. That's not going to cut it. That's the number that we need to call it.

[Field Yates]

He's averaging 0.6 yards per catch. Yeah, 0.6.

[Mike Clay]

And by the way, a recent drop to optimism is he looks the part. I mean that touchdown run in week one. I mean he, he makes plays. They.

[Field Yates]

You know, it's funny Mike, is I think there are people that are going to say to you, what do you mean he looks the part? He's averaging, you know, whatever it is, like 3.1 yards per carry. Again people, let me reiterate the stat from yesterday at the running back carries for The Raiders, which 30 out of 35, that's six out of seven have been handled by Ashton Genty. They are averaging negative 0.23 yards per rush before contact. So he is on average being hit, hit behind the line of scrimmage, including.

[Mike Clay]

On that touchdown run when he somehow broke loose. So I think once he gets some, gets rolling here a little bit, they get him more involved in the passing game, find ways to utilize him. I think he'll get back on track.

[Daniel Dopp]

Well, those are a couple of guys that make field nervous. Just again, for audio listeners at home, that was Justin Jefferson and TJ Hawkinson, obviously Mark Andrews, which makes a ton of Sense. Brian Thomas Jr. Marvin Harrison Jr. And Ashton Genty. Let's dive into our board bet from last week really quickly. We can pay this off. We had a board bet. I said Patrick Mahomes was going to finish outside the top ten field. Yates, where did he finish?

[Field Yates]

Quarterback nine.

[Daniel Dopp]

Quarterback nine.

[Mike Clay]

I had exactly ten.

[Field Yates]

I know Mike. He came very close.

[Mike Clay]

I think we need to review the screen on this.

[Daniel Dopp]

This is ridiculous. We've got to talk about this just really quickly because Patrick Mahomes this last week had the most rushing yards and rushing fantasy points of his career. What did I say to you last week?

[Field Yates]

Last week there's no way he'll run as much as week one.

[Daniel Dopp]

I said last week he just ran for the second most Rushing yards and rushing fantasy points of his career. There's no way he's doing it again. And then he literally does it again. He looks like. And we were texting about this during the game. He is that offense right now. He is the best runner in that backfield by far. I'll talk about Isaiah Pacheco a little bit later on in the show, but Mahomes has been carrying that Chiefs team right now.

[Field Yates]

He has been. He's been amazing. The rest of the offense has been booty cheeks. So get your act together. The rest of the offense, seriously, no doubt about it.

[Mike Clay]

He has two rushing touchdowns already. He's had more than that in a season once in his career.

[Daniel Dopp]

That's incredible.

[Mike Clay]

He's leading all quarterbacks in rushing yards.

[Daniel Dopp]

Is this going to become like the new. I don't think the Chiefs want their $500 million man running the ball this much.

[Field Yates]

They do not. They got a lot of things. You have to hope that Xavier Worthy plays this week. And then you have to hope that Xavier Worthy plus Rashi Rice is enough. That that's the antidote for this offense as well.

[Mike Clay]

By the way, to answer that question, he has 13 carries. They're all scrambles, so. No, they're not designing runs.

[Daniel Dopp]

They're not designing runs.

[Mike Clay]

He doesn't have anyone open. Oh, man.

[Daniel Dopp]

Well, he's got one guy open, unfortunately. Freaking Tyquan Thornton. Hey. Hey. Mike Clay winning our. What is a Raheem Sanders monopoly fund.

[Mike Clay]

Yep.

[Daniel Dopp]

I'm gonna give this to you.

[Mike Clay]

Thank you very much.

[Daniel Dopp]

So we played a game for this. It was our long shot game. Here. You get all of the monopoly money now. This is empty, unfortunately, because we had. Pay off my clay 15 bucks. Yeah. We had a game set up where.

[Mike Clay]

It was tonight, Megan.

[Daniel Dopp]

We were doing long shots. Players rostered under 1% of leagues that we thought would get in the end zone field. You had Noah Gray, also a good call, to be honest. He was, I mean, on the short list of guys that could have gotten there. I had Alama Day Zakius. Our producers had Kyle Hueck, but Tyquan Thornton, 0.7% roster. This is why we don't play games with you. Like we're two weeks into the season and you've already won.

[Mike Clay]

Well, one, this is the first time we played it. So one for one nailed it.

[Field Yates]

And you had a good rule that we are instituting.

[Mike Clay]

Yes, yes. I suggested this right before the show today when I was looking at week, week three options. Every time someone hits, we kind of cut in half. How many players we could use. So right now we're under 1%. Now we'll make it under half a percent.

[Field Yates]

Half a percent. Okay.

[Mike Clay]

And then early on in the season, right? Exactly. Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah.

[Mike Clay]

I was happy it happened because I was talking about it for a couple of weeks, but also a little disappointed because we want this thing to run, run its course. So we'll start it up again this week and we'll drop some names tomorrow. Right.

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Sign up to play ESPN Fantasy Football today. Absolutely. Do you think now that we have finally had this, just, I got to pay off Tyquan Thornton. Like, does he need to be rostered? Does he need to be someone that needs to be on benches? Or do you think this is still one of those, like. Okay, I just wanted to make sure.

[Field Yates]

If you can be in your daily.

[Mike Clay]

Fantasy lineup or if you're in like a 16 team league and you need like a desperation flex, maybe, but only, only, only if Xavier Worthy remains. If Worthy's back, then it's Worthy. It's juju. And it's, it's. Well, so am I missing Xavier Worthy?

[Daniel Dopp]

Juju? Noah Gray. I don't know.

[Mike Clay]

Who's the other?

[Daniel Dopp]

Hollywood Brown.

[Mike Clay]

Oh, Hollywood Brown. Yeah, of course, of course. Yeah, no big deal.

[Field Yates]

My brain is all over that guy.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, the Eagles shut him down, so I forgot about him.

[Daniel Dopp]

But all right, well how about rather than Hollywood Brown because You obviously don't want to talk about him. Couldn't even remember his name. Give us some guys. You do want to talk about Mike Clay.

[Mike Clay]

Okay, I'm next. We're doing this. I'm up next. All right.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah. Guys Mike wants to talk about.

[Mike Clay]

I want to. Guys feel like talking about whether some of these guys are guys I was nervous about. Some are guys that showed up really high in the rankings this week. And we'll start with Caleb Williams. I can't wait. You know, from a fantasy perspective, I can't wait for this Bears Cowboys game because a lot of points, neither defense can stop anyone so far. And I think Caleb Williams should be locked into lunch. I think I heard you talking about him yesterday or the day before. I met QB6 this week. He's already 10 this week, so. Over 200 passing yards in both games is three touchdowns, only one interception, 85 rushing yards and a touchdown as well. Sixth among quarterbacks in rushing yards. He's no Patrick Mahomes in that area.

[Daniel Dopp]

No, of course he's not.

[Mike Clay]

Not far behind. And the Cowboys so far, 30.3 points to Russell Wilson, 24.3 to Jalen. Hurts the Hertz when you're like, okay, that's fine. That checks. But Russ, that was a rough.

[Field Yates]

The second most passing yards in his career.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, 250.

[Field Yates]

Yeah.

[Mike Clay]

We'll see if Daron Bland is back in this game.

[Field Yates]

Sounds good.

[Mike Clay]

Which would help. Yeah, that'll help a little bit. But nonetheless, they are struggling.

[Daniel Dopp]

So Williams to Davion Clowney. So that should fix the Micah Parsons departure, right?

[Field Yates]

No, Clowney's wearing number 42. That.

[Daniel Dopp]

That feels gross.

[Mike Clay]

That's tough.

[Field Yates]

He's also illegal for a defensive end name Jadevian.

[Mike Clay]

He's also 32. He's gonna be a rotational edge rusher. They're just trying to find ways to replace, of course, Micah Parson. So, yeah, I think Caleb is. Is a good streamer this week.

[Field Yates]

Okay. Yep. I love it too, man. I just. I know that players don't. They probably don't feel like our. Our words, our apologies are going to change anything, but in some ways, I feel like the way that Caleb is discussed these days, it's just like everything can be bothersome about, like where we are in sports right now. Guys played 20 games in the NFL. We've already decided that, like, he sucks. He's terrible. He'll never be able to win meaningfully with the Chicago Bears. Like, I actually feel like he's been pretty improved this year compared to where he was last year. I'm sorry. The Bears are 0 2. They played, I think, a very good team in the Lions and they crapped down their pants in week one against the Vikings, a game they should not have lost. It happens in week one. I'm excited for Caleb Williams to get back on track. I think the Bears win on Sunday at home.

[Mike Clay]

Okay. All right, next one for me. Do you have any thoughts or. You good? You good?

[Daniel Dopp]

No, I'm good.

[Field Yates]

We all have our top seven.

[Mike Clay]

Yes. Okay. So we're on the same page. Okay. This guy is a guy that we might want to bench this week. Jerry Judy going up against the Green Bay Packers 5 for 66 and 4 for 51. So far. We expected a little better with Joe Flacco under center. A lot of pass volume there. He is second in routes among receivers, which helps a little bit, same as where he finished last year. But the target share is down from 23% to 20% this year. So we need Harold Fannin for him to go. Yeah, too much Harold Fannin for sure. Cedric Tillman's been good as well outside.

[Field Yates]

The top 30 for all four.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah. And the, and the problem here, of course on top of all of that is the matchup again against Green Bay, who has been just unbelievable so far. They faced the six most pass attempts, but they've allowed the 20th most yards so far this season. 5.2 yards per attempt. That's lowest in the NFL. Only one receiver has gotten a double digit fantasy points against them. That was Debo Samuel. So Jerry Judy, I think if you can find a way to get him on your bench this week, you do it.

[Field Yates]

Okay.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah, that doesn't feel great. Saying if you can find a way to get him on your bench, it's like ah, Yeah.

[Mike Clay]

I think 10 teamers, you can. 12 teamers might be a little tougher, but hopefully you have a good team and you have some options.

[Field Yates]

Yep. What you're hoping for in that game is garbage time.

[Mike Clay]

Yes.

[Field Yates]

You're hoping for the packers being up, you know, 28 to 7 in the fourth quarter and it's just you got to Gabriel to Jerry Judy.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah. Isaiah bomb.

[Daniel Dopp]

You're calling a Dylan Gabriel shot right now.

[Field Yates]

Well, he came in last week in garbage time.

[Daniel Dopp]

How do you think, do you think you're going to get enough Dylan Gabriel garbage time to make it worth it? I feel like Joe Flacco, like they're still going to throw the ball 40 times a game probably.

[Field Yates]

Yeah.

[Mike Clay]

I think he's just.

[Field Yates]

They're down 28 to 7 in the fourth quarter, it'll be Dylan Gabriel in the game to probably the 40 year old Joe Flacco.

[Mike Clay]

Next guy on my list, guys is still like, you know, I talked on Sunday about fantasy football. Now the most confusing backfield was still Seattle and we're still there. We got no more clarity this past week. This was a. What's that?

[Field Yates]

We have some hope.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, we have some hope. This was a point of contention on social media for me since Sunday. I get still getting responses on this topic because just for observing the fact that, yes, Ken Walker played better in this game. He's outplayed Zach Charbonnet so far this season for sure. But his share of the snaps, routes and targets were all lower in week two than they were in week one. He played less often. So the, you know, a lot of the pushback was like, obviously Walker's fine now. Like he, he's just ramping up. Well, he played less than week two, so I don't see how that makes sense. If your thought process is okay, he played better now. Now they're going to, now they're going to, you know, increase his snaps in his usage, his targets, whatever it may be. Fine. Like, I could buy that. I think that's completely logical. But that is not what has happened yet. And it's very possible. Like again, he played a little more in week one and his numbers were horrendous. He played less in week two, his numbers were better. The numbers aren't going to stay that high if he doesn't play more. Like he very well could go back to week one production. If he gets 10 touches, it isn't, you know, so I'm still nervous about this one. More nervous than other people. I still have him ranked 25th, so a flex option. But I need to see the snaps go up. You need volume. You can't just rely on playing a handful of snaps and have elite efficiency. It might be good for Seattle. It's not good for fantasy football. So I'm not there yet, but I need to see more.

[Field Yates]

Yeah, the hope is pretty straightforward. Is that like for a team that played much better offensively last week than it did in week one, they say to themselves, all right, listen, maybe there might be some things in the intangibles category, the pass blocking category, that Zach Charbonnet is better than Kenneth Walker iii. And in their eyes, not necessarily ours, but in their eyes, Ken Walker III is way too explosive. You need to have a running attack that's not like a yard and a half and a cloud of dust For Zach Sharp. Last week it was literally two thirds of a yard per carry for Zach Charbonnet. So you need to hope that the team just says, I get it. There are some limitations with Kenneth Walker iii. He's just such a better player overall that we need more of him going forward.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah, I want to unsubscribe from this backfield. I said this on Monday. I mean, I like when I get to a chance where I can try and move Ken Walker the third without making it sound like I'm desperate to other people in my league. I just don't want to have to deal with trying to figure out this running back by committee. And I realize, like, you're so early in the season, it's like, who are you going to trade him for? Like, what are you going to trade him away to be able to get back? Like, I think you need a little bit more time. But when it gets to a spot where I can try to move out of this backfield, that's what I would try to do as a manager.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, I think there's hope here. There's hope that he does this week play, you know, 60% of the snaps, leads and carries. Zach Charbonnet is zero targets and is running the ball very poorly, 2.1 yards per carry. So there's reason to think that could happen also.

[Field Yates]

Okay, we're way better with the other guy on the field. Let's play him a whole lot.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah. And this is a good matchup. The Saints allowed over 22 and a half points at CMC and a combined 22.9 to Arizona's running back. So there's optimism here that he is a good game here in week three, but we're not where we need to be with him just yet to pay off his ADP is correct. All right, next one. Speaking of a guy not living up to his adp. Oh, Marian Hampton, next on my list. This is a guy that I have Obvious concerns about. 11.6 fantasy points in two games. Not effective running the ball. 3.1 yards per carry is 14 receiving yards so far. And perhaps most concerning, his snaps dropped from 81% week one all the way down to 62% last week. He had the same number of targets and carries as Najee Harris this past week. So I like that he still has a pretty sizable snap edge. So that makes and route. He's obviously in passing situations. Not that they throw to the running backs or tight ends very much, but at least he's getting those snaps. Denver did get toasted by Jonathan Taylor last week. So perhaps there's optimism Hampton could get going. So that that's reason for positivity, I guess. But I don't like the way that backfield is trending right now and he's just not playing well enough.

[Field Yates]

Just you have more positivity around Ashton Genti or Amirah and Hampton.

[Mike Clay]

Genti okay.

[Daniel Dopp]

I think so as well.

[Mike Clay]

Yes. Genti just doesn't have competition like it has to. It has to happen there.

[Daniel Dopp]

Chargers offense so much more because it feels like they're just a more competent offense and like I could get some goal line usage for Hampton as they, you know, move the ball down the field.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, yeah, that's another thing. By the way, by the way, quick aside, I had a, Sorry, I have to mention this because I was so close to perfection in the touchdown calls last week because I had Taekwond Thornton, I had CMC who caught the touchdown. I had him on FF now and I had my parlay which was three legs. James Conner scored, Jalen Hurt scored and oh, Marion Hampton was the last one and he had three consecutive goal line carries and didn't get in that.

[Daniel Dopp]

Imagine if that ESPN bet parlay had had Tyquan Thornton in place.

[Mike Clay]

I would get off more too.

[Field Yates]

The only other thing that I'll add to this is that like, like if the Chargers keep playing the way that they do, they're less incentivized to change things up, right? They're two and oh, and if they continue to play awesome, no one's going to be saying, hey, you know what you're not doing enough of Jim Harbaugh is playing your first round pick. You guys are only 9 and 1. Play him more, right? Whereas like, if the Raiders continue to be, as I would say, uninspiring offensively as they were on Monday night and to a degree in week one as well, then I think people are going to probably be saying like, do we need to reassess how we're utilizing this player that we took six by the.

[Mike Clay]

Way, that's the same argument with the packers. With Matthew golden, it's like they just keep winning and dominating. What am I supposed to say? Like, oh, LaFleur stinks because he's not using Matthew Gold. I'm like, he knows what he's doing. Like I, I, he's one of the best coaches in the NFL. I'm just very biased when it comes to Matthew Golden. I want him to get to football.

[Daniel Dopp]

So I think anytime that you draft someone in the first round, they should just there should be like a law. You've got to use them X amount of times in the first handful of games.

[Field Yates]

That's actually is a law.

[Daniel Dopp]

It should be.

[Field Yates]

It already is.

[Mike Clay]

At least show us that the players a bus, right? Like prove it to us. Yes. If you don't use them, how are we supposed to know?

[Daniel Dopp]

Okay, I promise you that we knew more about the first round pick of your favorite team as a fantasy player. Because we're just those sickos that know those things, right?

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, we know. We're. We're smarter than all these guys. Come on.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, Mike, you got one more. You got one more to give us.

[Mike Clay]

One more. Keon Coleman is kind of a fascinating bounce back opportunity. Yeah, perhaps. Obviously great matchup against the Dolphins. They have struggled. Awful. They've been awful this year. 9.7 yards per attempt, a 79% completion rate allowed to quarterback. So worst EPA against the past so far. The only reason they're mid pack in terms of fantasy points slide to receivers is because they've faced the third fewest targets to receiver so far. That's the only reason the efficiency has been horrendous. Coleman did come back to Earth last week. Three catches for 26 yards. Two reasons for that. One was half of his routes were against Sas Gardner. The other half were against Brandon Stevens. We talked about that last week. I thought he would see more Gardner, but. But the thought was even if he didn't, Brandon Stevens is on the other side. It's tough. Also, his snaps fell to 49%. His targets fell to 12% after 87 and 24%.

[Field Yates]

How much of that feels like, hey, we were totally smothering the jets call.

[Mike Clay]

Off the dogs the first 10 pass plays of the game. He was on the field for like half of them. So it started right off the bat. Right off the bat, they featured Elijah Moore. It felt kind of like the packers where they featured Don Tamian Wick. Same kind of thing. Like I don't know if they felt like, oh, Elijah's had a good week of practice, let's get him into the rotation. And it came at the expense of Keon Coleman. But again, it was a tough matchup and it was that. I do think it will recover in competitive games. I don't know how competitive this game's going to be on Thursday night. Well, I'm sure we'll talk about this a little more tomorrow. Yeah. But nonetheless, Coleman, I would call him right now one of the widest range of outcomes players right now because he could be wide receiver 5 or 70 based on how much he plays and if he gets the football much like he's been the first two games of the season.

[Daniel Dopp]

Gosh, it doesn't feel great with Keon Coleman because I would have loved to see a little bit more. However, if there is any matchup to write all of the negativity that has happened, it's got to be the Miami Dolphins.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

So we're going to hopefully speak that into existence. The guys Mike wanted to talk about. For audio listeners, just recapping this really quickly, we had Kayla Williams, Jerry Judy, Ken Walker, the third, Omarion Hampton and Keon Coleman.

[Field Yates]

So up on one of those and down to their other four.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, basically, to some extent. I mean, cautious optimism, I'd say on Walker, certainly optimism on Caleb. I think Hampton will be better, but worried about him. And Keon Coleman. Good guy. I mean, yeah. But I feel like this week you feel better about putting him back in your lineup against Miami.

[Field Yates]

Totally.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, I got a couple names I'm going to bring to the table as well with a week three panic or patience, my friends, I'm going to give you my panic level. I would love to know where you guys are at on these players. And I mentioned as a little teaser I was going to get into the running backs in that Kansas City running back room. Isaiah Pacheco. This was a mistake. I have a panic level of 10 on Isaiah Pacheco.

[Mike Clay]

Totally.

[Daniel Dopp]

The dude can't even beat out Kareem Hunt right now. It looks like a committee. And if you're telling me that Kareem Hunt is actually more efficient than you at the running back spot, I have a full on reason to be able to panic. Unfortunately, he is my running back. 31 this week.

[Field Yates]

That's too high.

[Daniel Dopp]

And it's wild because they play the Giants who have given up the most fantasy points to running backs through the first two weeks. And that was in a game in which like, I know the Cowboys were throwing the ball a ton, but like, Javante Williams looked really good again against the Giants. So I still don't feel like even though he's taken on what I think is a great matchup, I can't even play him in the flex. Like, I don't. I would rather play any wide receiver basically that I have on my bench because I think there's more juice in that game than what I've seen from Isaiah Pacheco. I'm a full on panic level 10 and I think he's going to be on my bench until I see something Turn around. I'm no longer in the I will trust it and it's going to happen phase.

[Field Yates]

No, no, it's 10 for me as well.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, agreed. For sure. Your hope is here. They get the passing game going at some point and it opens up something. Something from the running game that hasn't been there. But you're right, he's in a timeshare right now with Kareem Hunt, and he'll just.

[Field Yates]

I feel like it's more likely Burchard Smith or seventh run rookie gets more time than either of the veterans. Right.

[Mike Clay]

He's getting a couple snaps, though. Maybe out of Nowher just starts playing a lot.

[Field Yates]

It's more likely that it's him that gets the boost and snaps than one of the two veteran backs.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah. Or they make a trade, as we've talked about.

[Daniel Dopp]

I thought that was one of the things, like, we read so much into this in the off season, where it was like, I'm in on Pacheco because they didn't address the running back position. And if he can't beat out like Kareem Hunt, who is cooked himself, then Isaiah is doubly cooked. I don't even know what else to say. Yeah.

[Field Yates]

Doubly cooked. He's well done.

[Daniel Dopp]

He's exactly.

[Field Yates]

Kirk Cousins cooking steaks on the grill. Do you guys recall that?

[Daniel Dopp]

I do. I do remember that.

[Field Yates]

Kirk basically turned them into, like, charcoal.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yes. They were tough pieces of meat when you got done with it. Yeah. All right, next player up.

[Field Yates]

Okay.

[Daniel Dopp]

Lad McConkey.

[Field Yates]

Ooh, yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, I'm on. I'm going to say patience with lad McConkey. My panic level, though, on a scale of one to ten, one being the lowest, ten being the highest, would probably be a three.

[Field Yates]

Three. Yeah.

[Mike Clay]

That's fair.

[Field Yates]

You know, it's funny because early on in the game on Monday night, this was around. I think it was like the first quarter was like 11:45 Eastern Time. Neither of you guys got that joke.

[Daniel Dopp]

Oh, sorry. Nope, Nope.

[Field Yates]

The game was really late.

[Daniel Dopp]

Okay, got it. Got it.

[Field Yates]

Eastern time.

[Mike Clay]

Okay, got it in the first quarter.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yes.

[Field Yates]

A lot of laterally. A lot of laterally.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah.

[Field Yates]

And then as the game progressed, a lot of Keenan Allen and then another Quinton Johnston touchdown. Dude, let's go.

[Daniel Dopp]

That's brutal.

[Field Yates]

This is exactly what I didn't want for lad McConnell, Quinton Johnston to be disappointed about what it means for other people.

[Daniel Dopp]

So lad McConkey is ranked as wide receiver 19, give or take. He's a top 20 wide receiver for all of us.

[Field Yates]

This week I've got him as 28.

[Daniel Dopp]

But yeah, you have a 28 unless.

[Field Yates]

That'S misprinted up on the screen.

[Daniel Dopp]

Wow. Okay. So then are you more panicked about lad McConkey? Yeah, that's what it says.

[Field Yates]

I've been having some ranking. I got a new computer. I've been having some ranking issues. So it might have been a flub.

[Daniel Dopp]

So here's the thing. Quinton Johnston's wide receiver, seven on the season.

[Field Yates]

Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

Keenan Allen's wide receiver 13. Lad McConkey's wide receiver 37. He's not seen end zone targets. Yeah, it feels like he's kind of. I don't want to say he's the third option in this offense because he's not. But what I think has happened is they've just opened up a bigger passing attack and because of that, Quinton Johnston has a role. Keenan Allen's not going away. The ceiling for lad McConkey with where we drafted him isn't there with him being potentially a high end wide receiver too, as though he was drafted to be. So I think things will. The wrongs will right themselves. But I do believe that this is a. A problem for me. I do have a little bit of panic here at the beginning of the season.

[Mike Clay]

That's fair.

[Field Yates]

I can just fair have a little bit of panic because the target share we thought could just be monstrous coming into this season. The only counterpoint that I would make to like the ceiling of where we drafted him is there have been a couple guys that have been good where we drafted him. It's not been a great stretch like Tyree Kills had one of two good games. Devonte Adams one of two good games. DJ Moore has been a disappointment so far in Tjaggin.

[Mike Clay]

Just took a hit like it's really.

[Field Yates]

It's a coup of the nice surprises. Yeah, Brian Thomas Jr. Nico Collins. It's been a couple of the nice surprises from like that 25 to 35 range that I think have been the story amongst wide receivers for sure. Yeah, those to me have been. I'm more concerned about the guys at the very top that have totally dotted than I am. The guys who were that second tier of wide receivers who have been solid but unspectacular.

[Daniel Dopp]

They've underperformed based on what I expected. But they haven't crushed you.

[Field Yates]

It hasn't been as jarring as Justin Jefferson seven catches or Nico Collins six catches or Brian Thomas juniors, what five.

[Daniel Dopp]

Catches through two games they get the Broncos this week. Mike, are we going to See a pat. Certain shadow anywhere.

[Mike Clay]

I think if it is, it would be Quinn Johnson.

[Field Yates]

Yeah, I agree on the perimeter, the big size receivers.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about that. More about tomorrow. And I want to talk more about the Chargers too. I will say this, the Chargers are a team that perhaps could support three top 30 fantasy receivers. So I want to talk about that. Everybody knows a more expanded role, little foreshadowing. You know, we got to get people to watch the Thursday and Friday show, so. So we'll get there. But let's just say I have more thoughts on this.

[Field Yates]

I've got this very odd vested interest in Kenan Allen and he's been a great player for a long time, but late career Keenan Allen, we play in this dynasty league together. The three of us are 12 members. There's six of us. It was all ESPNners at the time. Now it's half ESPN, half former ESPNers. And I made this trade prior to last season and I know it's going to sound ridiculous because people are going to be like, what do you mean that's a ridiculous trade at the time, I'm telling you, for a team on the up versus a team that was. Was kind of rebuilding. I did my Javante Williams and my Jerry Judy for his Derrick Henry and his Amari Cooper. So basically Derek Henry.

[Mike Clay]

Right.

[Field Yates]

I mean, that's what really mattered. But at the middle of last season, I got an offer of Amari Cooper for Keenan Allen. This is when Amari was still playing pretty well for the Browns early. And so it was Keenan Allen plus, believe it or not, Aiden o', Connell, who. I'm super short at quarterback and I needed to fill it a little bit. Yeah, this was when a couple things were going on. So Kenan Allen has become like a lifeline for me. I've got a great team in that league and all of a sudden I'm like, did I just like snipe Keenan Allen for the cost of Amari Cooper? Now Javante Williams looks great right now. Jerry Judy was awesome last year. So this is the fun part about dynasty leagues is the value of these players. It's like driving through the hills. You never know whether you're high or low. And next thing you know, a guy who you felt like was going to be, you know, foundation of your roster is no longer that.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, it's funny how trades work like that because I remember a trade you and I made and at first it looked great for me and then last year it went the other way. Now I gave you dobbs and Danny Dimes for etn. And the year one was a huge win for me. ETN helped me to a championship last year. ETN was killing me all year long. And Danny Dimes didn't help you, but now Danny Dimes, I think you maybe traded him for something else. But nonetheless, now he's good.

[Daniel Dopp]

And that was a huge trade piece for me. I traded Danny Dimes and a couple of picks from Bajan and Drake Lund, London. So I got a. I got a handful of.

[Mike Clay]

Oh yeah, you got it. Yeah.

[Field Yates]

There's only like one untouchable player in my roster, Jake Bobo. But otherwise I think I've traded everybody. I think I've either cut or traded everybody except for George Kittle and Jake Bobo. Wow. Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

Everyone should play in a dynasty league is what we're saying here. Like get into at least one because it just changes the way you look.

[Mike Clay]

I love this league and big move some. The original drafter of Josh Allen put him on the trade block. Yes. Sand form edit. Yeah, I'm fascinated too. Yeah, I'm sure we all had a little chat with him. I know he's fielded a lot of offers.

[Daniel Dopp]

It was a great email. But listen, if you want us trade somebody, make sure you send a good email to go along with it.

[Field Yates]

What's so cool about a Josh Allen potential trade offer is that everybody is going to call, right? Because whether you're. So there's. This league is kind of bifurcated. It's kind of like half really good teams and half.

[Daniel Dopp]

What is bifurcated.

[Field Yates]

Liz taught it to me yesterday.

[Daniel Dopp]

I was going to say that. Okay.

[Field Yates]

And then half like. It's kind of like half rebuilding slash struggling and then half like serious contenders. So all six of the serious contenders should probably make a call. The problem is like Daniel made a gigantic trade last year. He's very short on draft capital. Matthew made a. He's in the league as well. He made a huge trade last year. He's very thin on picks. My team is good, but I'm old, so I don't really know what I can offer other than like literally every draft pick. So Mike, you probably shouldn't trade for him. Just.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah, don't do that. Yeah, yeah.

[Mike Clay]

All right. We don't want you not to. Now I'm thinking maybe I have a shot, but I don't know. I don't know. All right, we'll see.

[Daniel Dopp]

I got three more players. I'm going to rip through here really quickly. No, don't even worry about it. Travion Anderson I know we've talked about him a bunch.

[Field Yates]

Big patient, big, big panic.

[Daniel Dopp]

Big panic. I'm still going to be patient on him though.

[Field Yates]

I don't think you have a choice. I think you have to be.

[Mike Clay]

You have to be.

[Daniel Dopp]

I expected more right out of the gate and I think that's part of my takeaway. That's on us. Like we just put too high of expectations coming out of what was 100 yard kick return in the preseason. And the idea that we saw him be super efficient for this, this Patriots team, I think that we just put too much on this kid's plate. The reason why I'm not panicked, it's pretty low is because it's Ramon Dre Stevenson in front of him. There is an expiration date, I believe, on how long Ramon Dre Stevenson is the RB1 of this squad and it ends sometime in 2025. So. So while the season hasn't started the way that I wanted for Travion Henderson, I still feel like by the time that you get into the throws of late season and playoff pushes, that's when he is going to be rounding into form. Which is why, sure, I'm frustrated. My frustration level is high, but my panic level is actually pretty low. It's at a three right now. Because I do believe he will become the RB1 of this squad at some point.

[Mike Clay]

This. Yeah, I hope so. I think the big problem right now is Ramandre Stevenson is running more routes and has in terms of pass blocking attempts, it's 23 to 3 in favor of Ramandre Stevenson. Not even close. They're just not trusting him in that situation and it's costing him target opportunities as well. Week one was good, but that seems like a fluke cause week two he was just destroyed in terms of snaps, carries, passing down opportunities. It's rough right now. So I agree that he's a bench player and at some point he could turn the corner. Might just take one more Ramandre Stevenson fumble as we saw last year. Yeah, it's. But right now he's not starting. Nope.

[Daniel Dopp]

I agree with that.

[Field Yates]

Great on that. Yep.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, Next one I have reminds me again.

[Field Yates]

It reminded me coming into the season of Rashad White and Bucky Irving last year. I was just checking out Rashad White's early games. Last year he was more effective as a pass catcher than he was a runner. But eventually the tide started to turn to Bucky Irving. So maybe the same thing can happen over the next few weeks here For Stevens.

[Daniel Dopp]

Excuse me, for Henderson, for Trevan Henderson. All right, next guy for me, Arthur Juan Brown. He has been awful, like literally awful.

[Field Yates]

To start 50 yards in two games is not good.

[Daniel Dopp]

It is not good. And here's the thing. We knew that this was one of the things that happens with the Eagles offense. They're one of the lowest passing heavy attacks in the NFL. They run the ball so unbelievably well. They have the third fewest pass attempts and second fewest passing yards to start the season. Only the Cam Ward led Titans have fewer passing yards than the Philadelphia Eagle. So it's just not been. It's not been a great start. However, this is part of the devil you dance with when you draft A.J. brown. We know this. He's a top five skill position player at the wide receiver spot, but he's not a top five fantasy wide receiver because he's not on an offense that will help sustain that kind of volume. So I have no patience, excuse me, no panic on him. All the patience in the world. But it has been a really frustrating start to the season, really.

[Field Yates]

No panic.

[Daniel Dopp]

Panic level of one. I got no panic on A.J. brown.

[Mike Clay]

I'm similar, maybe a two, but. But pretty close. They have zero passing touchdowns so far.

[Field Yates]

Yeah.

[Mike Clay]

Last year 42% of their touchdowns are passes. That's going to level itself out. We've seen that.

[Field Yates]

Yeah, for sure.

[Mike Clay]

And overall pass volume is down. They haven't had to throw the ball that much so far this season. So. I agree. I think the offense is very good. They played the Chiefs and obviously the Cowboys were sitting in too high zone as we talked about last week, that whole game. So better days ahead. And by the way, hit a 41% target share in week two. Like as long as that continues, he's going to be okay.

[Daniel Dopp]

If he was on a team that had him getting 11 targets a game, I think he'd be a top five wide receiver and we wouldn't even think about it, right?

[Field Yates]

Oh yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

He's just not on a team that does that. So this is part of, like I said, you drafted A.J. brown where you did rather than him being a wide receiver one, he's a wide receiver too. And now I've lowered him a smidge. I think he's wide receiver 15 for me this week because of that.

[Mike Clay]

By the way, Akela Witherspoon, Rams top corner out for this season. Yeah. Presumably out for the season. He's on ir. I think he. I don't think he'll be back. So one less player for them to use to stop the Eagles Passing game. That's gonna be a good one. The last time the Rams and Eagles played was the Snowball in Philly where the Rams almost came back and ended the Eagle super bowl bid. So it'll be fun to see. To see this game.

[Daniel Dopp]

Heck, yeah.

[Field Yates]

NFC Championship game last year. That's right. Maybe a rematch coming this year.

[Mike Clay]

No, it was there. That was the commanders. Right. So it was division around.

[Daniel Dopp]

Division around. There we go.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

Last one for me.

[Field Yates]

Okay.

[Daniel Dopp]

This doesn't feel good.

[Mike Clay]

This is like, what, your ninth one?

[Daniel Dopp]

This is my fifth one. This is my fifth one. Evan Ingram is huge panic level for me. I waited at tight end on a lot of leagues and there were two guys that I drafted, and it was TJ Hawkinson and Evan Ingram.

[Mike Clay]

Oh, boy.

[Daniel Dopp]

And neither one of them have panned out.

[Mike Clay]

Johnson doing it.

[Daniel Dopp]

He's great right now. He is. It's him and Jake Ferguson that I grabbed off of waivers, and I'm starting both of them over these guys. He's not the number two pass catcher like we thought he was going to be in Denver. I think that's Troy Franklin. Instead, he has six targets for four catches for 33 yards. There's way too much Adam Troutman being utilized within this Broncos offense. I did not expect this to happen. Evan Ingram, I think, is no longer startable. He should be on benches. And if you tell me I need to drop him in order to pick up somebody else, I kind of feel like, okay, like, I totally get it. You can do that at this point. But what a major disappointment for me right now, two weeks into the season I'm playing.

[Field Yates]

Yeah. The hard part about this, and I'm gonna sound like a broken record, is for all the TJ Hawkinsons and the Mark Andrews and the Evan Ingrams, there's just no solution that you're saying to yourself, like, good thing I have, you know, this person on my bench to take over for him. Right. It's. It's such a wasteland. David and Joku has become a borderline starter. So I think Juwan Johnson and Harold Fannin have entered the conversation of guys that should be considered, you know, 12 team starters.

[Daniel Dopp]

Jake Ferguson's in that conversation as well.

[Field Yates]

Jake was in that for me coming in.

[Daniel Dopp]

Was he okay?

[Mike Clay]

Yeah.

[Field Yates]

Jake, was he. I think he was drafted as, like, tight end nine. So he was right there. But there haven't been that many new entrants into the ring. It's really Joanne Johnson, Tucker Crafts, and also Harold Fanon. Yeah.

[Daniel Dopp]

Tyler Warren probably is the only, like, main because Like Colson Loveland isn't doing anything right now. Like anyone that drafted Colson Loveland thinking they could use him early in the season. You're just not going to get that.

[Mike Clay]

Maybe we should have seen that coming. With his age and the target competition there. Maybe he'll turn the corner. But he has to play more. First of all, much like Evan Ingram has played 37% of the snaps, which is for Loveland.

[Field Yates]

He's so young. You mean what?

[Mike Clay]

Loveland's young? Yeah.

[Field Yates]

Yeah. Okay.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah. No, no, no, no. Yeah, Loveland's young. So maybe we should have saw that coming is my point. Ingram development. I don't understand what's going on with some of these tight ends. By the way, quick shout out to you, Daniel. I think it was Sunday morning maybe 12 something. I saw an addition. I think it was in the fantasy focus league.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah.

[Mike Clay]

Before. This is the morning before week two. Daniel do ads.

[Field Yates]

Troy.

[Mike Clay]

Troy Franklin.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah.

[Mike Clay]

That was like. Okay, that's a random addition.

[Field Yates]

Wow.

[Mike Clay]

Great call.

[Daniel Dopp]

Thank you.

[Mike Clay]

Way to get ahead of that one.

[Daniel Dopp]

24 fantasy points. I did not get this script. I had him in our dynasty league as well. And I. This is. I.

[Field Yates]

What do they go for in the fantasy league? Wasn't he and Fab.

[Daniel Dopp]

It was. It was like $4. It was something really.

[Mike Clay]

Wow. 8:24. Tyler said you added 8:24am Great. Great job.

[Daniel Dopp]

I'm hoping that right now it seems like he's the number two. It's not Evan Ingram. It's not Marvin Mims. It looks like. And I said this to number one to field. Yeah.

[Field Yates]

Right.

[Daniel Dopp]

Like they are manufacturing touches for him. He has five catches behind the line of scrimmage. They're finding ways purposefully to be able to put the ball in his hands. And they're still taking some deep shots. So I.

[Mike Clay]

He's a. He was a tricky one on waivers this week. I ended up not. Not getting him a lot just because it's like, I don't know if I'm like if I have a spot for him in some leagues. He wasn't like he must have. But also as I wrote about in the playbook which comes out tomorrow is like, maybe he's the guy we look back on and like that's the breakout when no one saw coming this year. Like it could be someone. There's going to be a handful of guys like that.

[Daniel Dopp]

So almost no one saw.

[Mike Clay]

Almost no one saw it coming.

[Field Yates]

Almost.

[Daniel Dopp]

Honestly though, this is like beginning of the season is the worst for waivers because you're at A spot where you're saying to yourself, week one, two, and three, am I really going to drop this person that I just invested this draft pick in to be able to grab this person off the waiver wire? And you do more mental gymnastics trying to figure out, can I do this? Is this the right decision? Like, or should I continue to wait? I need to wait on this guy, right? Because I used a ninth.

[Mike Clay]

Like Evan Ingram.

[Daniel Dopp]

Like Evan Ingram or Caleb Johnson. Like, there's a lot of guys that were drafted, you know, top 100, that it's like, shoot, I'm two weeks in, and I might be 0 and 2, and I got to change some things up already. So I think early season is always the hardest on waivers.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah, sure is.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, just to quickly recap my panicker patients, names were Isaiah Pacheco, fully panicked lad McConkey and Travion Henderson and Arthur Juan Brown. Have a lot of patience for those guys. And then I am back in on the panic meter, unfortunately for Evan Ingram.

[Mike Clay]

Yeah. Yikes.

[Daniel Dopp]

All right, that's gonna do it for our Wednesday show. Come back tomorrow. Mike, you said the playbook is gonna officially be out on the website tomorrow?

[Mike Clay]

Tomorrow morning. Yes, sir.

[Field Yates]

Love it.

[Daniel Dopp]

We'll dive into our week three preview part one, as well as preview the Thursday night football game. This is always a ton of fun.

[Field Yates]

It's the Bills versus the Dolphins. If the Dolphins show up.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah, I don't.

[Mike Clay]

And Mike's going out to dinner, folks.

[Daniel Dopp]

Yeah. Is that what's going on there?

[Mike Clay]

20 bucks. 20 bucks?

[Field Yates]

These days you can buy a Connor field jersey.

[Mike Clay]

All right.

[Field Yates]

At the pll store.

[Mike Clay]

Okay.

[Daniel Dopp]

Look at that.

[Mike Clay]

Well, this fits well, so I'm going to do it.

[Daniel Dopp]

Please don't.

[Field Yates]

You can have it.

[Daniel Dopp]

Don't you need that back field?

[Field Yates]

I mean, I'll get it back eventually, but if you want to wear it for the rest of the day, I'm not stopping you.

[Mike Clay]

Wear it for the rest of what? Life.

[Field Yates]

Wow.

[Daniel Dopp]

That's going to do it for us today.

[Field Yates]

Later.

[Daniel Dopp]

Make sure you love each other. Don't forget to love each other. Be kind to yourself, and we'll see you guys on Thursday. See ya. You're in the.

[Mike Clay]

Sam.