
Week 11 Fantasy Football Start/Sit Decisions: Must-Start Players & Sleepers
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Daniel Dopp
Fantasy.
Mike Clay
You're in the 06010.
Daniel Dopp
Focus.
Field Jates
Fantasy.
Daniel Dopp
Fantasy.
Mike Clay
Focus. Hello and welcome to Fantasy Focus Football presented by Little Caesars alongside Mike Clay and field Jeats. My name is Daniel Dopp in a big different studio than what we are used to.
Field Jates
So, Mike, when you fly private, obviously, that's often. That's mostly how you fly.
Mike Clay
Usually how you fly.
Field Jates
What is it like when you get stuck on a commercial airline as opposed to the private flight? Cause I feel like we did the inverse here, Daniel and I. Men of the people. Yes. We fly commercial all the time.
Mike Clay
Always.
Field Jates
So being in our tight studio is nothing new for us.
Mike Clay
Correct.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Jates
But if we were ever to fly private, it would feel so spacious and luxurious, which is kind of how this studio feels to us today.
Daniel Dopp
I feel right at home now.
Mike Clay
Wow.
Daniel Dopp
Usually we're in that cramped studio and I feel like I am, you know, flying commercial.
Field Jates
No COVID protocols in that studio.
Mike Clay
I usually fly coach or coach minus. But you, I know, will fly something better than that.
Daniel Dopp
I want all the pluses, all the letters.
Field Jates
Yes.
Daniel Dopp
Okay.
Field Jates
Correct.
Mike Clay
Yeah, that's fair. All right.
Field Jates
Me and Mike.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Mike Clay
Well, we are in a new studio just for today. Some stuff's going on where we're getting some things worked on in the studio that we're in. So we're in a new spot. You may recognize us if you watched fantasy football now over the years. We are in the fantasy football now studio that we used to be in. So congratulations to us. Feels breaking things already.
Field Jates
I already dropped my mic. Congratulations to you.
Daniel Dopp
Not about using this fancy life. That's fancy technology.
Field Jates
Usually I just shout really loudly and people can hear my voice when it's on guest.
Mike Clay
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Field Jates
I'll just describe What I had in mind when I proposed this segment and I'll see how your guys list compares to my list. This will be a lot of fun.
Daniel Dopp
You know, I like this too, as we'll get to it later. But we don't often spend a lot of time on those guys.
Mike Clay
No.
Field Jates
Yes.
Daniel Dopp
It's just like, yeah, start Christian McCaffrey. We never talk about them. It's just like. So we'll have an opportunity to talk through some of those names.
Mike Clay
That'll be fun. All right, let's dive into some insurance running backs that we think you need to at least have some knowledge of heading into the second half of the season. Maybe guys you need to have on your roster. There is a little bit of a caveat here. We could only pick players that were rostered under 50% of leagues. It's obvious when you have insurance running backs that you need to have like a David Montgomery or Kyle Manungai now who is 75% rostered. We stayed away from those names because they felt like the obvious ones.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, you can't pick them up. Exactly.
Mike Clay
These are a little bit deeper.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. I think this is a good time to do this as well because bye weeks are winding down and now you're going to have more roster flexibility on your bench and that's the time of the year you want these guys on your bench. Some of these guys we're going to talk about could be league winners. Starter gets hurt. And now instead of needing like a fill in quarterback or an extra defense or an extra tight end because your guys on a buy now you have that flexibility, you could scoop up some of these high end insurance options.
Mike Clay
Love that. All right, well, let's kick things off field. Jates, I'm going to start with you. Who's your first insurance badge?
Field Jates
Well, so we submitted these blindly and I think what basically happened was our producer Christina kind of like redistributed to each of us because we had a lot of crossover here.
Daniel Dopp
So no surprise because the list of appealing insurance guys that are available in this many leagues is not large.
Field Jates
I actually put four in a category of their own.
Mike Clay
Agreed.
Field Jates
And so I don't have all four, but I was only assigned two. But let me dive into one of those two and we start up in Buffalo. Ray Davis, who will take over for James Cook. He was part of my core four who we saw Ray Davis at times last year fill in for James Cook and he ran the ball very effectively. He also was a factor in the passing game a little bit as well for Buffalo. I'm not going to dive into too many statistics because a lot of these guys haven't played all that much. But a fourth round pick in an offense that has one of the best run blocking offensive lines in the entire NFL. He would be the guy Ty Johnson would remain the change of pace, slash third down back. So Ray Davis who's available in by my math 92.4% of leagues should be added. Especially if you have James Cook.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, remember last year James Cook was out for a game and we spent the week on the show and on FF now trying to figure out who would the lead back would be. And it was Ty Johnson who had been running essentially as the two got a lot more work and he had more work last year than he has had this year as James Cook's role has evolved and ended up being Ray Davis pretty clearly in that game. So we've seen it at least for that one game. I'm with you. That's a very appealing guy available in a lot of leagues.
Mike Clay
I like that mine's going to be. It's not a great offense. Bataje Spears, he might not even be the insurance backer he was on my long list anymore.
Field Jates
I do not have him on my list.
Mike Clay
Rostered in 37.5% of leagues. So available in over 60% of leagues. But don't look now. He's outscored Tony Pollard in three of the last four games. Has at least nine fantasy points in all three of those games as a part time running back. The reason why I would give him a little bit of a look is because of the receiving game work. He has at least three catches in four consecutive games. Are the Titans good at football?
Field Jates
No.
Mike Clay
Okay, so their offense is always on the field throwing the football because they're down all the time. Which leads to a little bit of Taje Spears uplift. I feel like in his fantasy value again, not a great offense. And I think the guys that you are probably going to talk about, I have a feeling that when you guys submitted your names because you did it before me, you're going to have the four guys that we really want to talk about. I have some deeper guys. That's where Tajie Spears falls for me is like deeper leagues in this scenario.
Field Jates
Spears a little bit less appealing for me because if he took over for Tony Pollard, who became Tony Pollard, we'd say to you that's not very appealing because Pollard was not good.
Mike Clay
He wasn't great.
Field Jates
Taje Spears for the first four weeks of the season. But Again, these are just names that you should be monitoring. Let's get to the meaty ones then, Mike, because I'm assuming you got the best ones.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, I get. Is that how it works?
Field Jates
Well, I don't know. I feel like I have D and neither of my top two guys or one of my top two guys is not available.
Daniel Dopp
Who is your first, by the way? First of all, shout out to our producer, Dave Presley. You must be watching the show live because guess who just got added in the fantasy focus league. Who? Ray Davis.
Mike Clay
Wow.
Daniel Dopp
He's on top of it.
Mike Clay
Ray Davis. That's amazing.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, he's on it. Let's talk about Tyler Algier.
Field Jates
That's the obvious.
Mike Clay
There we go.
Field Jates
Let's just start.
Daniel Dopp
He is the layup for sure. If something were to happen to Bijan Robinson, it would be the Tyler Algier show, which we saw during his rookie season when he was their lead back and was very effective. Nate Carter is the next running back there on the depth chart, so it should be all Algier. He's a running back for the running back. Yeah, running back. He could be a candidate in that scenario. It might be a candidate for Raheem Sanders. Yes.
Mike Clay
Yes.
Daniel Dopp
Seriously, for sure. I looked at Algiers stats throughout his career. There's 11 career games in which he has more than 15 touches. Guys. He's averaging 14.8 fantasy points per game, 91.8 yards per game, and has seven touchdowns in those 11 games. So he's been pretty darn effective when he's been called on to handle a large workload.
Field Jates
You had a thousand rushing yards as a rookie.
Daniel Dopp
Exactly right.
Field Jates
Algeria's a fine player. He's annoying to us. Yeah, he's annoying for the Bichon purposes. But Tyler Algier as a standalone starting running back is a totally serviceable option, by the way.
Daniel Dopp
Very fascinating. As he heads to free agency after this year, could he get a 1A or a lead back job somewhere in the offseason? Very interested to see. My answer is yes, there's those guys. There's always like a couple of guys like that, like Alex Madison behind James Cook or Dalvin Cook didn't really work out, but like Michael Turner behind LT goes to Atlanta. He breaks out after that. So we've seen this kind of stuff before. I'm really interested to see him come free agency.
Mike Clay
I want to say one more time because I said this stat, I think on Monday when we were doing the recaps. Excuse me, but Tyler Algier in this last game had every Single carry inside the 19 yard line for the Atlanta Falcons had all five of them. Bijan Robinson didn't touch the ball inside the opponent's 19 yard line. He's getting a lot of work at the goal line as well. All right, Mike, do we want to just do your second one? Because I think you got another good one there hiding in the way.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, I do. I did end up getting the obvious ones, although again I did submit four. So at the end, if you guys don't mention this guy, which I think you will, I'll bring him back up. But my next one is Brian Robinson Jr. There we go out there in San Fran. The other running back. The reason I was a little hesitant on him was I think if something were to happen to cmc, yeah a little bit of committee it would be Isaac Garendo and you might see a little bit of Jordan James the rookie. But I think there's enough here for Robinson. He's playing well. He's averaging almost 5 yards per carry this season, has a couple touchdowns. We've seen him, much like Algier, have high volume seasons. He was over 214 touches each of his first three NFL seasons. Had eight plus touchdowns in two of those seasons while he was in Washington. And he's unlike cmc, he's a bit limited as a receiver. But Remember back in 2023 he was 14th among running backs and receiving yards and I believe he led in yards per target. Like he's been effective when used. He just hasn't been used a lot. Obviously this is an offense that's very good to running back. CMC is not just first in targets, he's second in carries among running backs this season. So Certainly Brian Robinson Jr would be a lineup lock. Maybe not an RB1, but maybe like a good RB2 in this scenario would.
Field Jates
Agree on that checks out. I think the other one that probably fits into the close to obvious category is in the NFC west as well. It's Blake Corum from the Los Angeles.
Daniel Dopp
That was the other guy, my love.
Field Jates
Who has been playing a decent amount so far this season but still available in 91% of the year of leagues. Kyron Williams is so effective for the Rams and obviously Sean McVay has a very soft spot for him which is understandable. He has been awesome for this team. But Blake Corum, we know this about this Rams offense. Whoever the starting running back is and whoever the two starting wide receivers are are probably going to see the vast majority of the offensive work. So Corum should be added not Just for. Actually, let me ask you guys the strategy question. Are you against adding handcuffs for players that you don't have?
Daniel Dopp
You should do that.
Field Jates
Okay.
Daniel Dopp
Because it's, you know, double. I want to use the wrong. Yeah, I don't want to use the wrong expression here, but essentially you're helping your team if something were to happen in this scenario. And by the way, Blake Corm is a guy I've had on and off the end of my bench in a lot of leagues throughout this entire off season. If I have him and Sikhyren goes down, you help your team while another team gets hurt instead of just helping your team should. Actually, you're not even really helping your team if you have Kyron and Corum because it's just a one for one essentially. Actually probably a little bit of a downgrade. So, yeah, no doubt about it. I do that often.
Mike Clay
I definitely do both of those strategies. By the way, do you only have one? Because some people are like, I won't have the insurance back of someone I have on my own roster. I'll only have the insurance back of someone I don't have. If there's. If the best player available on the waiver wire is better than the last guy on my bench and he is an insurance bat to one of my guys, I'll go out and grab them. I don't care that I have two running backs from the same squad because I'm planning for the future. I'm not even using that last bench spot anyway.
Daniel Dopp
As long as you're not burning that spot. Say your starter gets hurt and you have the guy on your bench and it's just like, all right now I don't even know if I want to start him anyway. Like, he's just not a good. It's a three headed committee now. Like, those are the guys you have to avoid.
Mike Clay
The last one that I have here I did not feel very good about. Honestly, as we went through the five because I knew who your four was. I felt like finding six insurance running backs under 50% rostered that I actually felt like giving. Unless it's dried up, it's really tough. The only other guy that I would mention in the deepest of leagues would be Samaj P. Ryan as a pass catcher in Cincinnati. Because one of the things that we love about our fantasy matchups is a good matchup. They have the sixth easiest strength of schedule based on Mike Clay's updated strength of schedule, which was updated yesterday. So just in case Jace Brown went down, P. Ryan could have some passing game Volume in case you needed him. However, he is so far down that list in comparison to the other names that we have mentioned. The guys that you have is really where we're at with insurance right now.
Field Jates
Can I throw one name that I thought about putting on there? But there's a factor that is sort of impacting his value. We remain without much of an update on Bucky Irving. Sean Tucker is behind Rashad White. He played a lot of snaps last week. Did. Sean Tucker handled a lot of work. He is the only running back to eclipse 50 rushing yards against the Patriots so far this season. Would it totally stun you guys? Totally stun you guys. If Sean Tucker, until Bucky Irving returns, has more carries than Rashad White, White is obviously a far more valuable pass catcher and he is going to be the higher ranked Bucks running back as a result of that. I wonder if this past Sunday was a little bit of, hey, like Rashad's not running the football. Well, he just isn't.
Daniel Dopp
I would not be. I would be a little surprised because we've seen this.
Field Jates
I said totally.
Daniel Dopp
We've seen this a couple of years. Yeah, not completely.
Mike Clay
I would be totally surprised.
Daniel Dopp
Shattering, however, we've seen this for years now. Tucker's been around for a few years, Rashad White's been there and every time there's been this opportunity and Tucker's generated hype, it's been. It's gone right back to Rashad White. So I'm not really too worried about it. But I haven't projected for like 10 points this week. Right. What was going to best?
Field Jates
Best. It's the number one matchup for opposing.
Daniel Dopp
Running back one one of us, three of us spent a lot of money on waivers last night for Sean Tucker. This guy. I saw you.
Field Jates
Was it only 10 bucks?
Daniel Dopp
10, 15 bucks. I saw. I just noticed in several leagues that you added Sean Tucker and spent like 10, 15 bucks on him. So you were interested who played on other leagues? Two together. Besides that one focus league. Did you pick where else we have the Dynasty league.
Mike Clay
Dynasty League. FF now.
Daniel Dopp
I don't know. I just. I just posted a few times.
Field Jates
Again, I'm surprised that 10 or 15 bucks is a lot of money in your book, Mike, given the fact that you have toilet paper that costs more per. Plus, you had to.
Daniel Dopp
I mean, my benches are so good that you actually have to pay me to take Sean Tucker.
Mike Clay
Oh, that's what it is.
Field Jates
Mine's right now.
Mike Clay
Sean Tucker had a huge game last year.
Field Jates
You're at the Saints a couple of.
Mike Clay
Years ago, a couple years ago. And. And I feel like the part for me that makes me feel like I would be. I would be surprised. Not totally surprised, but like, we've seen him break out. And then the team didn't just be like, all right, let's see what. What else we have in this.
Field Jates
I feel you. Listen, I. You guys are bringing up very astute points there. I just. I did notice on Sunday that he was the one that ran a lot better shots.
Mike Clay
Not looking good. Yeah, for sure.
Daniel Dopp
We definitely scored three touchdowns this week.
Field Jates
I know what's happening. We have no update, of course, on Bucky Irving other than there is no timetable for his return.
Daniel Dopp
He had the injury. Did not go. Put that weird social post out there about essentially being disrespected or doesn't know who cares about him, those kind of things. And then it's been nothing.
Field Jates
He was reposting Rashad White's thoughts on your radio.
Daniel Dopp
That's what it was. And then nothing. Very bizarre. I almost wish he went on IR so he had a clearer picture. But we'll see out here.
Field Jates
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Mike Clay
All right, let's dive into some starts or sits here. In week 11, we each brought a start and a sit to the table. Mike, I'm gonna start with you.
Field Jates
Mike got nine for each.
Daniel Dopp
By the way, Mike's sit for this exercise was the same as yours, so I had to pick a different one. Just so we're clear, one of us.
Field Jates
Does our homework on time.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, that's exactly right. My start though is a. Aaron. Aaron Rodgers. Why are you. Why are you against. Why are you looking at me like.
Mike Clay
That against the Angels? You've got them higher than I do. Mike Clay.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, I'm at QB9 this week. Two straight duds. He had 6.4 fantasy points last week against the Chargers. So this might seem ridiculous, but as we talk about often, it's all about the matchup against the Bengals. Top five in yards, touchdowns and fantasy points. A lot of the quarterbacks the highest EPA against the pass. Back in week one when they played the Browns, the Bengals held Joe Flacco to 12.2 fantasy points, which first of all, very impressive. One of the best quarterbacks in fantasy over the last weeks. Only three quarterbacks that have finished top 13 in fantasy points each of their last four starts. One of them is Joe Flacco.
Field Jates
Top 14 in fantasy.
Daniel Dopp
Top 13. Top 13.
Mike Clay
Oh, 13.
Daniel Dopp
Okay, top 13. So it's him. It's Jacobi Berset.
Field Jates
Say that again. Say the stat again.
Daniel Dopp
It's the same as the Berset stat that I tweeted yesterday.
Field Jates
Applying to Joe Flacco or applying to Aaron Rodgers?
Daniel Dopp
Not Aaron Rodgers, no, Flacco. I'm just making. I'm just talking about how Flacco has been good in fantasy anyway because I.
Field Jates
Watched Rodgers on Sunday night and that was not top 13 performance.
Mike Clay
If you watched Aaron Rodgers on Sunday, you wouldn't have ranked him this high. You only rank him this high because of the matchup.
Daniel Dopp
That's the matchup. Right. But anyway, I was just making a joke about Flacco being really good. Really good. Bengals held held him in check in week one, but since then, fellas, they've allowed eight straight quarterbacks to reach 15 fantasy points. They're averaging 22.2 during that stretch. That tells us we have a pretty high floor for Aaron Rodgers. The Bengals also allowed A season high 38 points to Caleb Williams just in their in their most recent game. It was before the bye and we've also seen this matchup. Aaron Rodgers faced them in Week 7. He had four touchdowns and 22.6 fantasy points. It was one of his biggest games of the season. So we've seen it before. I mean, if there's a week to stream Aaron Rodgers and there's a few you know, we have a couple of quarterbacks on by. We have. I know. Jackson darts out this week. Rodgers is a viable streaming option.
Mike Clay
Don't like it. Danny Dimes on a buy. Jackson dart out this week. We're assuming Jayne Daniels out this week. So three quarterbacks you may have to be able to fill in for field. Who's your start this week?
Field Jates
I have a question for you, Daniel. Is your start a running back?
Mike Clay
It is a wide receiver.
Field Jates
Okay, good.
Daniel Dopp
All right.
Field Jates
So I want to mention running back as well, but my start doesn't quite crack my top 10 because there are good quarterback options. But yep, Tua Tangovailoa has my attention for this weekend. How about the last four quarterbacks facing the Washington Commanders?
Daniel Dopp
Oh, boy.
Field Jates
You tell me whether any of these guys strike you as specifically very mobile. Dak Prescott, Patrick Mahomes, he's mobile, but not. That's not the. He is running to scramble. Not running as a design runner.
Mike Clay
Correct.
Field Jates
Sam Darnold, Nope. Jared Goff, clearly. Okay, so we've established that of those we have maybe half of a running quarterback in there. Dak Prescott, against the Commanders, 23.3 fantasy points. Patrick Mahomes, he was bad. 23.0 fantasy points against the Commanders. Sam Darnold, 27.2 fantasy points against the Commanders. Jared Goff, 24.8 fantasy points against the Commanders this past week. I was kidding, of course, on Mahomes. Even though he did score the fewest of those four quarterbacks against this commander's defense that I think is on the short list for worst in the nfc, not the NFL, because the Bengals play. That being said, they have. It's so bad they're making a coordinator change. It's now Dan Quinn taking over for Joe Witt. This team is strapped for personnel injuries. Marshawn Lattimore and Tre Amos, that's their.
Daniel Dopp
Two earning perimeter corners.
Field Jates
Both of their two top perimeter corners are now out for the year. Lattimore, because of an ACL this past week. Tre Amos broke a fibula. So not good on either front. This team is bereft of game fusing pass rushers. And I don't know to the extent that this matters, their best defensive tackle is out for the game because he got suspended in Daeron Payne. So I love the matchup here for Tua. He's very shrieky. He's a hard guy to trust. But it wouldn't surprise me if Tua eclipses 20 fantasy points this weekend.
Daniel Dopp
I like it.
Mike Clay
With that matchup, it's tough to be.
Daniel Dopp
Able to give away.
Mike Clay
Yeah, love that. I'm gonna talk about a wide receiver here rostered in 86% of leagues.
Field Jates
A backup one.
Mike Clay
Go ahead. Jameson Williams has looked really good in three of his last four games. Homer a little bit. And I didn't want to do this because I didn't want people to say you're a homer. However, if you've been waiting for Jameson Williams to become a usable part of your fantasy lineup unlike he was for the first half of the season last month of the season, it has happened second on the team in targets over the last month of the season. Dan Campbell, if you watch that game, looked intent on getting Jamison Williams involved in his first game, taking over play calling duties at least 16 and a half fantasy points in three of those four games. Eagles have been pretty decent against wide receivers. Only five wide receivers have topped 15 fantasy points against the Philadelphia Eagles this year. If you watched and it was tough trying to watch Sunday Night Football, you know you're the team, whenever you're the team that, sorry, Monday Night Football whenever you're the team that plays that team the following week and you're watching that island game, it's like, what can I take away from this? I don't know what I could take away from that Eagles packers game because everybody just looks.
Field Jates
They're not very good on offense.
Mike Clay
Defense looks really great though, so maybe something to be able to be aware of. However, Jameson Williams, I am buying the Dan Campbell hype with what they have done and the way they've gotten him utilized over the last three, four weeks. Excuse me. I have him as wide receiver 23.
Daniel Dopp
Wow.
Mike Clay
I'm less convinced you have him as wide receiver 31. Mike's got him as wide receiver 35.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. I mean look, he's a good. He does have two good games in a row. But you know, coming off the bio, seems like I wrote about this for the playbook so it'll be in there tomorrow. I broke this Jameson Williams down a little bit. He's still been very boom bust. I don't know if this streak's going to continue. We've seen these big games and then he's come flying back to earth. I am a little concerned about the matchup here. He is going to see a lot of Quinon Mitchell in this game. I don't think it'll be a full time shadow. But with Amon Ra St Brown in the slot, you're going to see Quinon on him quite a bit. Because if the Eagles have a weak spot right now in the secondary, it's Adore Jackson or Keely Ringo, whoever's on the other side, they'll be on Khalif Raymond or Isaac Tesla or something like that. So they're probably going to prioritize Williams on the perimeter. So I'm not sure I could see him having, you know, he could hit for an ADR touchdown at any point, but I just don't know that this is the week where I feel super optimistic about him. The Eagles have been very good against.
Field Jates
Receiver Jama, also capitalizing on remarkable efficiency. Like seven targets last week. He turns into six for over 100 in the touchdown.
Daniel Dopp
And that's not always the case, right?
Mike Clay
Yeah.
Field Jates
Let's bore bet this.
Mike Clay
I like it.
Field Jates
You have wide receiver 23. I'm at 31. Mike's at 35. Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
I'll take the other end of this. Yeah. I mean, I just put more on the line for our Lions Eagles.
Mike Clay
That's right.
Field Jates
Oh, yeah. Have we decided the wager for this yet?
Mike Clay
No, we did not officially.
Daniel Dopp
We have to think about that.
Mike Clay
Not officially.
Field Jates
I had an idea. You guys can decide whether it's a good idea or not. Chat can also contribute here. I think if the Eagles win, then Daniel has to. I'm sorry. Actually, I guess that would both go both ways. I was gonna say. Hold on. I had a good idea. If the Lions win, I was gonna say, Mike either has to get a full sleeve tattoo or a full beard.
Mike Clay
Okay.
Field Jates
But there's not really a reciprocal.
Daniel Dopp
For, like, what do I do or remove a tattoo?
Mike Clay
Do I shall have to get one, shave my beard or remove your tattoo?
Daniel Dopp
Guys, I'm not gonna lie. I just saw Daniel's shirt right now.
Mike Clay
You just finally got it.
Daniel Dopp
I saw it.
Mike Clay
Oh, that's amazing.
Daniel Dopp
Your shirt was covering it so good.
Mike Clay
You guys can't see my shirt. I did. My wife put this together. This is Mike's haiku. In case you were wondering. We decided to make a shirt.
Daniel Dopp
It was covered, so I didn't even notice it.
Mike Clay
And I.
Field Jates
Can you read it for us again?
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, absolutely.
Mike Clay
In case you didn't see it, this is a haiku that says, need 10 points to win. 57 yard touchdown flag on the play. Pain.
Daniel Dopp
That is so good. Can I maybe sell those?
Mike Clay
We probably could.
Daniel Dopp
My own. I want royalties.
Field Jates
What's funny is that Daniel wears so many shirts of either bands or, like, quotes from bands that I have literally never heard of that I just assumed it was. I didn't actually read it.
Mike Clay
I was just like, you assume it's a Real shirt.
Field Jates
I assume it's a real shirt of a band.
Daniel Dopp
And I love that.
Field Jates
I was like, yeah, why not?
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. I didn't think twice about it. Could we just trophy smack do shirts or something? Maybe they could put a line. They might now light a hike line of haikush.
Field Jates
That is really good.
Daniel Dopp
You have three.
Field Jates
All right. To 23, 31, and 35. How do we make this fair? 23 to 31 is eight. Top 27 wide receiver. So if he's 27 or better, you win 28 below. I win.
Daniel Dopp
Sure.
Mike Clay
Wait, we're going with you or with Mike?
Field Jates
Well, I guess we're all kind of in the mix. You want the other side of it?
Daniel Dopp
Well, I'm on the. I'm on the low. I'm the lowest. You're the highest.
Field Jates
I get. I get the exact tie only.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, you get 27.
Mike Clay
So 27. I think he's a top 27 wide receiver. Is that right?
Field Jates
Well, 23 to 35 is 12 spots, so it'll be top 29 for Daniel.
Mike Clay
I like that even more. All right, I say Jamison Williams will be a top 29 wide receiver here in week 11.
Daniel Dopp
I say Jameson Williams will not be a top 29 fantasy receiver in week 11.
Field Jates
And for what it's worth, I say Jameis Williams will be a top 29. I'll be exactly wide receiver 29 for week 11.
Mike Clay
Pull up on the board. All right. Love it.
Field Jates
If he's wide receiver 29, I will.
Mike Clay
I'll be pumped one of these days. I want the middle number to hit. Yes, exactly.
Daniel Dopp
Always take the tie.
Mike Clay
All right. Did we all do a start?
Field Jates
Yes, we did. One more. I want to mention a name that I think will come up over the next few days anyways.
Daniel Dopp
Nate Carter.
Field Jates
Yes.
Daniel Dopp
Okay.
Field Jates
Woody Marks is a pretty high ranking for me this week. Guys played 80% of the snaps this past weekend. Just.
Mike Clay
We'll talk about it tomorrow.
Field Jates
We'll talk about Woody Mark's for over the next couple of days. He definitely has my interest.
Mike Clay
All right, let's start with our sits then. Mike Clay, if you had to sit somebody this week, this is your second choice.
Daniel Dopp
This is my second choice. The first one was kind of fun because it was kind of related to my start. Which you'll get to in a second. I'll let you handle that. But, guys, I'm going to stir the pot a little bit with this one.
Field Jates
Patrick Mahomes.
Daniel Dopp
Patrick Mahomes.
Field Jates
I thought about him. Thought about him.
Daniel Dopp
Guys, where were you on January 1, 2023? Where were you up.
Field Jates
Where was I?
Mike Clay
January 1, 2023.
Field Jates
I said high school.
Daniel Dopp
Senior year, week 17 of the 2022 season.
Mike Clay
I was buried in a bunker somewhere in Uzbekistan. Field was in high school.
Daniel Dopp
There's a football game that day. It was New Year's Day. Football game.
Mike Clay
Okay.
Daniel Dopp
All right. You know what happened on that day?
Mike Clay
No.
Field Jates
Patrick Mahomes.
Daniel Dopp
That was the most recent day that Patrick Mahomes reached 18 fantasy points against the Denver Broncos.
Field Jates
Wow.
Daniel Dopp
Wow. It's been a while. We're in. What is it? We're coming up on 2026 New Year's. This was 2023 New Year's Day, so. Wow. He's faced the Broncos three times over the last two seasons.
Mike Clay
So that's a 2022 season then if it was 2023 New Year's Day. Wow.
Daniel Dopp
Three games since that point. A total of two touchdowns and three interceptions. 13.2 fantasy points per game. And the Denver defense is playing better than they have. I mean, they've been good for a while.
Mike Clay
Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
But they are really playing at a high level right now. We'll see if Pastor Cam plays in this game. But either way, they have been playing at an extremely high level. They have, what, 15 more sacks than any other team? I mean, it's just. Just ridiculous the level they're playing at now. I will say this. The Chiefs, the last two years, the offense has not been at their peak during the Mahomes era. They are better this year. I will say that about Mahomes. If they were playing like they were the last few years, this might be a straight up benching. Yes. For Mahomes.
Mike Clay
Yep.
Daniel Dopp
I don't think that's the case, but you have to lower expectations. The Broncos have had the fewest passing touchdowns, eight so far this season. The second fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks. Only three quarterbacks have even hit 15 against them. And I mean, we want 18. I mean, there's times quarterbacks score 20 and are not in the top 10. I mean, you. You need more points than that. So I think that with Mahomes, you're going to be really hard pressed to Ben, pressed to bench him, but I haven't met 10 in my rankings this week. It's a possibility that you have a better option.
Field Jates
I have the quarterback. 12.
Daniel Dopp
There you go.
Field Jates
So I'm going to lower the mic. All right.
Daniel Dopp
Maybe I'm not. Maybe this is not as controversial.
Field Jates
No, it's not. I almost had Mahomes. It's just a hard. So I haven't decided whether I'm going to actually do this. But in our fantasy football now league, I'm playing Daniel this weekend. I believe it's the two versus three game, second versus third place. Mike though off the schneide, Mike's still the highest scoring team.
Mike Clay
You got a dub list last week?
Daniel Dopp
I did.
Field Jates
Way to go.
Daniel Dopp
Knocked off Liz.
Field Jates
She ended up still the highest scoring team in the league. Yep. And gonna be a force when the playoffs roll around. I do have Patrick Mahomes.
Daniel Dopp
Who's your backup? Who's your alternative?
Field Jates
C.J. stroud.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, yeah. Okay.
Field Jates
C.J. stroud ranked higher. I don't know whether I'm. Obviously Stroud has to clear concussion protocol. We'll find out if that happens later on. Well, as soon as. Later on today.
Daniel Dopp
Yep.
Field Jates
But man alive, Stroud draws a text.
Mike Clay
Nice. No, Stroud is on the Texans. He draws the Titans for the Texans.
Daniel Dopp
There you go. Yep. Good matchup.
Field Jates
What if like, you know what Texans were like. Listen, man, it's going to be Davis this week, but you can face our defense.
Mike Clay
But you can play. Yeah, just.
Field Jates
We'll get you some reps.
Daniel Dopp
Exactly. Yeah. It's a tough one because it's like, would anyone be shocked if Mahomes just puts up a cool 24 points on Denver? I mean, not really. No. No. I mean, he's that good. I mean, he's at that level. They're gonna be throwing a lot. Rasheed scores. Travis scores. He runs for 35 yards. Like he could. He could get to 20.
Field Jates
Yeah.
Mike Clay
You guys have been. I was the one out on Mahomes. You were in on him earlier this season. Now I feel like we've swapped where it's all. It's a toug matchup.
Daniel Dopp
This is one of them hard calls this week.
Mike Clay
So the weird thing for me is. And it's not weird, weird is not the right word. But it's like we're talking about maybe the best player on the planet in regular football that has finally looked good after two back to back bad years. Finally look good. And now we're saying in a tough matchup still to maybe consider benching him.
Field Jates
Yeah, I know.
Mike Clay
It's one of those things, like you.
Field Jates
Have reasonable options this week. Like, I'm not going to the extra. I mentioned Tua. I wouldn't go as far as Tua in terms of streaming him over Patrick Mahomes. Right, right. I said two remains just outside my top 10. Mahomes is at number 12, but Aaron Rodgers against the Bengals. The Bengals make literally everybody they play look like the best quarterback in the NFL. We mentioned C.J. stroud. Stroud draws the Titans, not the Texans. Great matchup there as well, so.
Mike Clay
And we've got two other quarterbacks that have done well. I'm sure we'll talk about in both Joe Flacco and Jacoby Brissette that have been top 13 for four straight games. So you've at least got some options there. All right, let's keep moving ahead. We'll talk about some more of those guys later on field. Your sit for this week, which is who Mike originally wanted to take, is Kaelin Metcalfe, who. Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Field Jates
Yeah, that's right.
Mike Clay
Aaron Rodgers is a start against the Bengals and DK Metcalf is a sit.
Field Jates
Yes. So how did Aaron Rodgers do the last time these two teams played?
Mike Clay
Four touchdowns?
Field Jates
Is that what you said tonight? Football? All of those went to DK Metcalfe? Zero. As a matter of fact, he had three catches for 50 yards on five targets when these two teams last played.
Mike Clay
Was this the three touchdown tight end game was where he gave it to Pat Friarmuth and Darnell Washington?
Field Jates
I think it was, yeah. I think Mike deserves a lot of credit because I don't think America's football conscious realized how much of a star D.J. turner is. They are literally 10 players that are bad and one player that's good on the Bengals defense, maybe nine when Troy Henderson plays as well. But D.J. turner is going to make himself a crap ton of money very soon because he has emerged as one of the best lockdown corners in the entire NFL. He blanked Roma Dunes two weeks ago. Wasn't the only reason why that happened, but I would say the largest contributing factor by far with DJ Turner. So he'll draw that shadow this week, I believe. Not to spoil wide receiver, cornerback matchup. And what do you think the most catches in a game that DK Metcalf has this season? Guess four?
Daniel Dopp
That's what I would have said.
Field Jates
I'll say five. So you guys were off by one. But still he has no more than five catches in a game.
Mike Clay
Field, I know that you're not officially an NFL GM, but if you paid someone $150 million.
Field Jates
Listen, it's some of those contract negotiations we had over the summer. You think back on them and you're like, we were doing that over these players.
Mike Clay
Over, over this.
Field Jates
Remember, it was like people were like, the commanders should pay whatever it takes to get Terry McLaurin back into the fold. It's like, brother, if they gave, people were Like I don't care if it's Justin Jefferson money.
Mike Clay
You should care if it's just doing here. You should.
Field Jates
Come on. DK Metcalf makes 33 million bucks a year to be utilized as an accessory in the offense, not the focal point of the offense. Pretty much everything the Seahawks did this offseason was smart, including trading DK Metcalf and making JSN the guy in the office.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. A lot of people thought going from, you know, trading away Geno and signing Sam Darnold was like a best move of the offseason. Yeah.
Field Jates
Is it Brad or Daniel?
Daniel Dopp
They thought it was a lateral move and it was not close to a lateral move. Sorry.
Field Jates
I was saying people. People did think what you were saying. I think it's the best move along with Daniel Jones of the offseason. Just for one more sort of the exclamation point on this. How many games with 100 yards do you think DK Metcalf has this season? This year?
Mike Clay
011.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, one long. Oh, he's that long.
Field Jates
Like 80 yard touchdown, 83 yard touchdown catch.
Daniel Dopp
That was on a Sunday morning. Yeah, I believe that was.
Field Jates
Honestly, DK is one of the best European wide receivers in the NFL. Do you guys remember when Kyle Pitts had only scored a touchdown on non American spoils? That's DK Metcalf in the year of our Lord 2025.
Mike Clay
I love Mike saying like, oh, DK Metcalf. I think he scored that on a Sunday. He scored that touchdown on a Sunday.
Field Jates
Right.
Daniel Dopp
It's like just like Sunday morning.
Field Jates
Sunday morning.
Mike Clay
Oh, okay, okay.
Daniel Dopp
Got it, got it, got it. Okay.
Mike Clay
All right.
Field Jates
I had it on a Tuesday.
Mike Clay
That's okay.
Daniel Dopp
On a Wednesday.
Mike Clay
Right. I do want to say that this. Pat Fryermuth, five for 11 and two touchdowns. John Smith, three for 28 and a touchdown. Darnell Washington, three catches, two yards and a touchdown, four touchdowns to tight ends in that game against the Bengals earlier this year.
Daniel Dopp
Well, start them all to that point. Exactly. Yeah, I don't know about that. To that point though, if DJ Turner is going to lock down Deacon Metcalf and again, we'll get into this more tomorrow. And receiver corner, but we've essentially laid it out. He'll shadow him in this game. He shut him down last time. And the Bengals have the worst defensive EPA in the NFL. I mean, it raises everyone else. So there's some serious sleeper appeal here for the tight ends. Calvin Austin for sure. And of course the running backs led by Jalen Warren.
Field Jates
I just thought of this and it would be the greatest call in the history of fantasy focus if it actually happens. A few weeks ago, I was watching the Steelers during one of their pride time games and they threw a pass to an offensive tackle who looked incredibly smooth catching them. I think it was Spencer somebody. Spencer Anderson, I believe his name was. I was like, that was way too impressive to be an offensive tackle Sunday. Spencer Anderson receiving touchdowns.
Daniel Dopp
No, this better be my Raheem Sanders.
Mike Clay
Should have saved it.
Daniel Dopp
That would have been. Well, I might have to start him.
Mike Clay
But I was going to say. So that was going to be. That was going to be. My pivot is like maybe start to the week. This week we each have to pick a Pittsburgh Steelers tight end to be able to start in our tight end spot.
Daniel Dopp
I can give Anderson tight end eligibility and then he could pick them.
Mike Clay
Wait, do you have that power?
Daniel Dopp
I do. I have that power?
Field Jates
Do you?
Mike Clay
Wow, Mike Clay. We just found out a cheat code.
Daniel Dopp
I just change all my. I give all the players on my team's tight end eligibility. So I just put like my quarterback.
Field Jates
And my quarterback tight end this week. That's awesome.
Mike Clay
That checks out.
Field Jates
Who's your set?
Mike Clay
Where did you have DK ranked? Did you say the number 29? I believe it is 29th.
Daniel Dopp
I'm at 32. Okay, got it. That's the lowest we've had them all year.
Mike Clay
My sit this week is also going to be Patrick Mahomes. Attached to Patrick Mahomes.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, Kelsey.
Mike Clay
And it is Xavier Worthy.
Daniel Dopp
Oh yeah.
Mike Clay
Rostered in 90% of leagues. This is one of those things where I looked at the roster percentage and I was just like, man, I feel like we've known this, but it just continues to be the same thing.
Daniel Dopp
This is rough.
Mike Clay
I want to say the good news first. Good news. At least seven targets in back to back games since Rishi Rice has returned. He's second on the Chiefs in target share.
Daniel Dopp
That's good.
Mike Clay
Both of those are good things in a Patrick Mahome led offense. The bad news, his best game since week five is 11.1 fantasy points.
Field Jates
Seems bad.
Mike Clay
He has not had a game with even 55 receiving yards since Week 5. Meanwhile, Rashee Rice has scored 18.6, 23.2 and 25.2 games in his three games back. Xavier Worthy is averaging eight points per game since Rasheed Rice's return. At this point, you thought maybe you could have just like had a flex option in Rasheed Rice. It doesn't even feel like he's startable at this point. And in this Matchup against the Denver Broncos. I don't know if he's going to get a shadow with the way that he's played even here. I would. I've got him outside my top 30 wide receiver, 36 for me. I am benching Xavier Worthing.
Field Jates
We're all there with you on that one. He's been a frustrating one. It would be sort of unbelievable. But we're currently on track for this to have an entire season. Yes. He missed a few games there of Xavier Worthy. Not even reaching 20 fantasy points once.
Mike Clay
Seems crazy.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, it's hard to believe. It doesn't. Sometimes the math just doesn't. Math like you just said. I mean, how are you second in line for targets on this offense? It's scoring four touchdowns a game for the last month and a half. It doesn't make any sense.
Field Jates
At some point he has like, I think it's reasonable to expect like there's going to be. We have what, eight games left for the Chiefs. Eight games left. Maybe he hits in two of those games. Yeah. But I'm not counting on six. But it coming into the season, he was like a top 15 wide receiver.
Mike Clay
Consideration because coming into the season you knew you had six games without Rasheed Rice and you were like, boy, it feels like he's going to be the guy. Right. And then it just happened.
Daniel Dopp
Last year was terrific last season and when he was in the second half, it's a wild.
Mike Clay
I think we can all wonder what would have been different had he not gotten banged up. And is that injury impacting him? I wonder about that point this year. Like that's. That's a thing. All right, let's dive into a re ranking of the top 10. Which one of you brought this to the table?
Field Jates
I brought this to the table. Mike brings nothing to the table except for elite insights.
Daniel Dopp
So my idea was merchandise.
Mike Clay
That's right, homes.
Daniel Dopp
That's right.
Field Jates
Merchandise. So basically the way I was thinking about it is this actually was spurred as I was thinking about Justin Jefferson after Sunday's performance, once again disappointing. And my thought was, has Justin Jefferson been the least valuable first round pick in all of fantasy football this season?
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Jates
There are a few factors to consider here and we can dive into that. Health is obviously a driving force. Also, like where you go in the first round really matters. So what we did was we went back and we took the players that finish in the top 10 of our final preseason ADP this year. How I rank them is who has to this point paid off with the most value through the first 10 weeks of the season. It's not, hey, if I could redo it for the rest of the year, here is how I value these guys.
Mike Clay
When you say most value, do you mean just straight up most fantasy points.
Field Jates
Or is it most value if you're. If you're. If Jamar Chase, who was no surprise preseason ADP number one, had outscored somebody by three points who was taking 10th overall. You're getting a full round discount and getting only three fewer points. That would be more valuable. We can also, of course, use this as a point to talk about these players going forward. So do you want to just each start with our number one player and just work our way around?
Mike Clay
Why don't we unveil the list first of what Toutskyn was? Let's do that.
Daniel Dopp
This is what we're working with.
Mike Clay
So this was the top, top 10 heading into that Thursday Night Football game of week one. Shout out to Keith Lipscomb, who got this to us earlier this season. Ja' Marr Chase, Bijon Robinson, Saquon Barkley, Justin Jefferson, Jameer Gibbs. That is your top five heading into the preseason. Excuse me, the season six through 10. Christian McCaffrey, CeeDee Lamb, Malik Nabors, Amon Ra, St Brown and Ashton Genty. Those are the 10 that we are working with. Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
And just keep in mind a couple obvious names missing here so they won't be included here. Jonathan Taylor, Puka Nagua, Devon Ichan, Drake London. So those obviously JT has been unreal.
Mike Clay
I'll ask you guys about those guys afterwards.
Daniel Dopp
But just so just to be clear, when we say like the best value, we're not.
Mike Clay
We're including a reminder of the first round that Puka had fallen so far because we worried about Matthews back that at the start of the season he wasn't even a first round option. So field when you're looking at the first round now.
Field Jates
Yep.
Mike Clay
Where are you going with this one? As far as best value?
Field Jates
At this point, I think the answer is clear. It's Christian McCaffrey who went sixth overall. So you're getting a half round discount on Christian McCaffrey who has been one of the top two players in all of fantasy football this season. When you factor in the position he plays, the points he has scored and the fact that and while Puka Nukua deserves all the praise that he is getting, he did miss a game there. He also missed most of a game prior. So you've had kind of two weeks where you were held back a little bit by Puka Nakua. So Christian McCaffrey to me, clearly the best first round pick.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. Top 10 finisher all but one week so far this season. He had that one dud where he had like 9.8 points or something like that. Yep. But yeah, he's been unreal. And by the way, efficiency wise, pretty bad as a rusher. I mean, what was the stat?
Field Jates
He has not yet eclipsed 18 yards.
Daniel Dopp
On a single rush this season, which is unreal. He's the only player at a certain level.
Field Jates
He was like 55 qualifiers. Yeah, yeah.
Daniel Dopp
Which. That's kind of unreal. So he's averaging like 3.3 yards per carry. But yeah, volume is king, as we say. And he's getting an enormous amount, as I mentioned earlier, second in carries, first in targets among running backs, on pace to break his own record in terms of reception. So yeah, he's been.
Mike Clay
I said this earlier this week, but he has the second most receptions in the NFL. Not amongst running backs, second most receptions even amongst wide receivers in the NFL and sixth most receiving yards also amongst wide receivers. So the idea that he's been inefficient on the ground, imagine if you all of a sudden start finding some efficiency because he's been unbelievable. Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
I don't know. But by the way, another reason, maybe throw Brian Robinson Jr on your bench regardless of if you have CMC because this is an enormous amount of volume for CMC and you wonder if I'll be able to hold up all totally.
Mike Clay
Clear cut number one though. Totally cosigned field.
Field Jates
Yeah.
Mike Clay
Number two.
Field Jates
Number two. I actually felt like this one was a pretty clear cut answer for number two. I'm going Amon Ra, St. Brown.
Daniel Dopp
Me too. That's why I have second.
Field Jates
Yep. So Amon Ra was ninth in preseason adp. So close to a full round discount that you were getting off of Amon Ra. And. And week one was not great. Three catches for 36 yards, double digit fantasy points in every game since then amongst the league leaders in catches and receiving touchdowns. He's one of the few things in fantasy football that for like three straight years now has just been about what you expect and hope for out of a first round pick. So to me, Amon Ra is number two. Mike had him as well. Anything to add to that?
Daniel Dopp
I just wanted to point out that he has just six fewer fantasy points than Jamar Chase. So it was very much the consensus first overall pick. So I would agree that getting him in nine versus Chase at one is tremendous value.
Mike Clay
Great point. I actually had Ja' Mar Chase because I still like Jamar with Joe Flacco, like second half of the season, I think he's going to continue to be a guy with the way that, what was it he had like 23 targets and 19 targets or something like that in each of the last two games.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, yeah, he's been great. I mean, very poor first month too. And that's what you want for your first overall pick or maybe second overall pick. But I'm a little lower on Chase, which we'll get to.
Mike Clay
But yeah, number three.
Field Jates
Yeah, I have jamarches number three here. So I think, you know, because of the fact that in order to be number one after being drafted number one, you have to be the best player in fantasy football and has to not be particularly close amongst the ten guys taken in the first round. While that first month was quiet for ja' Marr Chase, he has now played nine games. Six of them have been monsters for Jamar Chase. So two out of three games so far this season, Ja' Mar Chase has been a potential week winner for you. So thank you, thank you, thank you, Joe Flacco for getting this season back on us.
Daniel Dopp
And we might have Joe Burrow back in two weeks according to his timeline.
Mike Clay
So who do you have there, number three? I had Jameer Gibbs, actually.
Daniel Dopp
That's who I have. Four more fantasy points than Bijan Robinson, who is of course drafted according to this ADP three spots earlier.
Mike Clay
You know, the big difference when I look at Jameer and Bajan this year, the big difference, other than Bajan gets more receiving game work, is the Falcons have made it a point to use the number two running back more than it feels like the Lions have with David Montgomery. Montgomery is not the same running back that he was the last two years in this offense. And so I feel like you've seen a lot more Tyler Algier taking away value from Bijon Robinson where last couple years it was David Montgomery kind of doing that little bit.
Field Jates
I think we've kind of forgotten that Bijan was lighting the world on fire to begin the season, to start the.
Daniel Dopp
Year even what, two weeks ago didn't he have a massive game?
Mike Clay
His duds?
Field Jates
He's had three straight games under 18. Bijan has it.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, okay, yeah, maybe it was before that.
Mike Clay
But his duds are such good duds. Like they're such high floor duds for Bichan.
Daniel Dopp
20% target share and all that he's been to, I would say, I mean, J. Gibbs has kind of been a little bit boom, bust the last Month or so too. He's had some low games.
Field Jates
A little lower than me for.
Daniel Dopp
Fair enough. But overall, I mean, he's been outstanding. I'm curious to see what they look like this week. Again, this. The Eagles defense is very real.
Mike Clay
Two best games of the season have happened in the last month. Two worst games of the season for happened in the last month. So there you go. Boom Bus Field number four.
Field Jates
Number four for me is Bijan. I kind of just hinted at it.
Daniel Dopp
Me too.
Field Jates
And he is slightly more consistent than Jameer Gibbs. Mike mentioned the past month for Gibbs, it's been two duds in four games and two excellent games. Bijan's had a couple of low games. I mean, 10.8 fantasy points this past week. He's been slightly more consistent. And I sort of track this with like boom versus bust games. And they've had the same number of boom games with one fewer total bust game from Bijan. So he is number four overall.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, fair enough. I mean, I just felt like they're so close again. Gibbs has outscored Robinson and he was available three picks later. So for me, it felt like slightly better value. But I mean, it's a toss up crazy field.
Mike Clay
And I have Bijon Robinson at four. Mike has Brian Robinson Jr. At four.
Daniel Dopp
So that's hot take.
Field Jates
So Bijan makes it to four for all of us. I had Jamar Chase at three. You had Jamar Chase at two. Yep. Number five. I have Jameer Gibbs here. I don't need to add too much.
Daniel Dopp
More than I have. Chase had five. Okay.
Field Jates
Chase at five.
Mike Clay
And I had Amon Ra St Brown. So our top five.
Daniel Dopp
I'm surprised you're low on that.
Mike Clay
We're all the same, I believe.
Field Jates
Show is not a homer.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, yeah.
Field Jates
We do have the same five players in the first five slots. The biggest discrepancy appears to be your affinity for Chase and relatively cooler ranking on Amon Ra versus the inverse.
Mike Clay
Correct.
Field Jates
Yep. Number six.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. So, by the way, I think that is the line. Right. Top five seems pretty straightforward here in this experiment.
Field Jates
I agree. So I feel like these five players, if you drafted them, you don't have much regret.
Mike Clay
No.
Daniel Dopp
Feeling good.
Field Jates
You know, there could have been other answers.
Mike Clay
Agreed.
Field Jates
It gets interesting at numbers.
Daniel Dopp
It does. Yeah.
Field Jates
And this is up to this point, people. It is not what this looks like for the rest of the season. If you watched the show yesterday, you know that I am very high on cd. Lamb. I'm gonna go with Ashton Genti at number six.
Daniel Dopp
Me too. I thought I was gonna Be high on him, but yeah.
Field Jates
Darn. So I kind of use Saquon as the baseline here for Ashton Genti. Each of them has three games under 10 fantasy points. They each only have one game over 20 fantasy points. Genti actually has another one with 19.9. I could have made it, you know, he has two with 19.9 or better, but still slightly more boom. And the same number of busts. And he was taken as 10th overall. Saquon was third overall.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, yeah, I agree. This is where I have Gentee. I actually initially did a list and I had him lower and then I looked a little closer and I was like, no way. He's actually been much better.
Field Jates
Kind of found his level.
Daniel Dopp
You know what, it's a lot like Jamar Chase. Like, he was atrocious the first month and now he's been a lot better. Maybe not Chase's level, but he's been good. He's suddenly 12th in fantasy points among running backs. He's been a top 15 scorer now, and five of six after the slow first three games of the season. 17.6 fantasy points per game since week four is RB11. So, you know, he's not at that absolute ceiling, but he's just been a really secure, solid backend, RB1 now for going on two months. So he's been much better. And obviously adding receiving work to his place plate has been a big part of that.
Mike Clay
Some of us talk about loving CD Lamb, and some of us live loving CD Lamb. So I got CD Lamb here at number six in part because I just feel like this is going to. I mean, you mentioned all the reasons yesterday. They're going to keep throwing the ball. He hasn't been super healthy, finally getting back. I think he's going to be a part of this.
Field Jates
So I would just say up to this point, the argument against would be that, you know, he missed four games, basically one where he played and then didn't finish the game. He had zero catches. And then three other weeks where he was not available because of injury. And as we discussed yesterday, he has yet to finish inside the top 10 for wide receivers.
Mike Clay
I know in a week this season, good floor.
Daniel Dopp
But, yeah, I mean, he's averaging 18.1 fantasy points per game. So he has been. He's been good. But I agree, I have him a spot. I have him two spots lower than this.
Mike Clay
How can you average 18.1 fantasy points per game and you've never finished top 10 at the position? That just goes to show you he's number 10.
Daniel Dopp
Okay.
Field Jates
He has not been inside the top 10. Yeah, he was number 10 once.
Mike Clay
Oh, some semantics there with the way he's saying it. Okay, all right. That's how we gotta do it.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, more on that shortly with a similar receiver that is ranked about the same time.
Field Jates
So that was 6, 7 for me is Saquon Barkley.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, me too.
Field Jates
Same Mike and I. All right, so we're kind of all in lockstep. Again I use the delineation between he and Genti as they have a similar number of boom and bust games. Barkley went third, Genti went to 10th. That to me was how I drew the edge in favor of Ashton.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, I think people would be surprised to know that. How many more points do you think Saquon Barkley has scored than Genti this season? Season.
Mike Clay
The whole season since 65.
Field Jates
Oh, the whole season, yeah.
Daniel Dopp
Eight, 10.
Field Jates
It's close.
Mike Clay
Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
Did you say 65?
Mike Clay
I'm trying to be like when you tee up the question, clearly it's a small number so I'm trying to be.
Daniel Dopp
I think that would surprise people. It's about one point per week. He's averaging more than than Genti. Kind of wild.
Mike Clay
I have Saquon Barkley here and I have not yet put Ashton Genti on my list only because when I'm thinking about these, these teams for the rest of the season the Philadelphia Eagles have a chance with their roster to catch fire and look like the offense that they're supposed to be. And the, and mind you, it hasn't really happened the way but like they have the ability to do that. The Raiders are still just the Raiders. So for me, as much as I love Ashton Genti just like because of the offense and the ability of like the Eagles are playing for something, I could see Saquon, I mean he could easily have a run the second half of the year where it's all of a sudden, you know, three straight two touchdown games with the way that the Eagles are going to utilize.
Daniel Dopp
But I think just the point of this experiment though is Alex Genty at 10 in ADP has paid off a little better than Saquon's third overall pick investment.
Mike Clay
He has. I was just ranking for best value rest of season. I thought Saquon was better rest of season.
Daniel Dopp
I followed the rules of the assignment.
Mike Clay
Ok, don't worry about it. That's fair. That's fair.
Field Jates
Number eight for me is Justin Jefferson and he only gets the edge because of availability. Right. He's played every game. He has been uninspiring for Many of those games. I don't really have a strong case for Jefferson, truly. He's been a disappointment.
Mike Clay
I've got Genti at 8. That's where he falls for. He's right after Saquon.
Daniel Dopp
I have Jefferson, a nine, actually. So I have. I have CD Lamb here. We just talked about him.
Field Jates
It's funny, I said, like. I was like, yeah, like, frankly, I don't have a lot of nice things to say. I'm just.
Daniel Dopp
And you're higher than him.
Field Jates
And then you were like, really? Well, I have him even lower. It only buoys my case.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. Look, I think. Yeah. CD Lamb has missed three games, but again, still averaging 18 fantasy points per game. Is which when he's played, he's had a high floor. He's delivered. You still feel good about him going forward as well?
Field Jates
I do, yeah.
Daniel Dopp
Jefferson, 14.7 fantasy points per game this season. Zero. Finishes better than wide receiver eight. So similar.
Field Jates
That would be zero inside the top eight.
Daniel Dopp
So you're not getting that ceiling that you expect from a guy you take with the fourth overall pick in this case. Or same thing with lamb, seventh overall and Jefferson also only two better than 18th as well.
Field Jates
So let me ask you this. If I gave you two options, which. Which take is hotter, CD Lamb will be wide receiver one for the rest of the season or Justin Jefferson will be wide receiver one for the rest of the season.
Daniel Dopp
The hotter take is definitely Jefferson. It's more likely to be CD Lamb.
Field Jates
I agree.
Daniel Dopp
No doubt.
Field Jates
Yeah. Did you think that was a hot take? Yesterday? We did our hot take show. Mine. One of mine was CD Lamb finishes. Do you want to revisit those for a second? CD Lamb, wide receiver 1 Overall for.
Daniel Dopp
The rest of the season. That's your hot take on a scale.
Field Jates
Of 1 to 10.
Daniel Dopp
Is that like I would say, I mean, with Nakua and JSN and them guys, it makes it tricky, but I'd say five. I mean, I don't think it's that wild.
Field Jates
The other one was C.J. stroud would be a top 12 quarterback the rest of the season.
Daniel Dopp
Okay. I could buy that, too. He's hanging right around that fringe.
Mike Clay
All right. I like it.
Field Jates
Anyways, so you're at Genti here.
Mike Clay
I had Genti here. And I will wait for number nine, but I got stuff to say.
Daniel Dopp
I'm surprised you're that low on Genti, but I guess you're just saying Raiders.
Mike Clay
The Raiders are just not good at all.
Daniel Dopp
And you also did it a little different. You were here.
Field Jates
What an opportunity.
Mike Clay
I Did it based on what the the freaking screen says.
Daniel Dopp
I did it based on what Field said to do. And he's the boss.
Field Jates
Do we have a legend? Do we have a potential boom spot for Gen Z? We do on Monday night.
Mike Clay
Absolutely.
Field Jates
It'll be interesting to see how things go against the Cowboys. Data has suggested that the Cowboys are a defense you can run against. This will be the first time the Cowboys have potentially four new starters on defense though, this week. Right? Quinn and Williams, Logan Wilson, Siobhan Revelle and also Demarion overshun their linebacker who those guys all could be in the lineup against the Raiders. Number we got to number nine.
Mike Clay
Right now we're at number nine.
Field Jates
Number nine. CD Lamprey Just, you know, availability.
Daniel Dopp
I said Jefferson.
Mike Clay
Mine is Justin Jefferson. And I will just say the reason why it's Justin Jefferson is because I came into the season touting over and over as I have every other off season. There is one wide receiver in the NFL that is quarterback agnostic. And this year Justin Jefferson has not been quarterback agnostic, unfortunately, in the same way that he has.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Mike Clay
So he falls for me.
Daniel Dopp
We're going to. One of my topics I want to talk about over the next two days is the Vikings offense right now because we actually saw J.J. mcCarthy. Hey.
Field Jates
Throw it a lot.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, you actually had to throw it a little bit and the results still weren't great. So we'll talk about the outlook for that offense over one of the next two shows.
Field Jates
Number 10 is obviously Malik Neighbors. He's going to miss much of the season because of injury. Let me ask you this then. Has there been a gigantic bust of any of these 10? I think it's hard to fault a guy when he tears his acl.
Mike Clay
Not a gigantic bust.
Daniel Dopp
I mean, Jefferson's got to be. Injury aside neighbors, Jefferson's close again. It's not his fault. But the situation here, like we were just thinking, okay, he did it with Cousins, he did it with Darnold. He'll. He'll be fine. With McCarthy. It just hasn't been the case. I mean, it's been, it's been.
Field Jates
We had years though, where first round picks who have stayed healthy have been, oh boy, big bus. So I feel like this has been a year where, relatively speaking, there haven't.
Daniel Dopp
Been starting all these guys. Yeah. With some level of confidence. That's fair. And yeah. But yeah, I mean, round two, round two delivered the goods. I mentioned the names earlier with Taylor Nakua, Achan JSN and Drake London. Which by the way, do you realize that in Three of his last four games. Drake London has been not a good fantasy receiver. Literally the number one scoring receiver.
Field Jates
Do you follow me on Twitter?
Daniel Dopp
I do not. I do not. I used to but then I just.
Field Jates
Had to make too many fantasy tweets.
Mike Clay
I think I was just looking this up while you guys were talking with each other. Justin Jefferson, wide receiver 13 right now on the season. Saquon Barkley, running back 11 on the season. I think Ashton Genty would be the only other player in the top 10 that's outside the top 10 currently at their position on a per game basis. Can I ask you really quickly and some of these will be really fast. I think we got a little bit of time here. Do it. We had Mike, you mentioned a couple of names. I want to mention them and see where you guys would put them. Jonathan Taylor was not a first rounder. If you were to put Jonathan Taylor rest of the season is just the clear number one one.
Field Jates
The only argument against him is that he's going to be out this week, the bye week.
Daniel Dopp
It's just that hey, you've get Niners haven't had their bye yet.
Field Jates
Week 14 I'm going to say but like you know, you could say hey, I'm past Jamar Chase's bye week so I get, I could have.
Mike Clay
Well we got CMC number one and he hasn't had his bye week yet.
Field Jates
So I'm talking about like if you're ranking rest of season players. I was doing this based off of like what we've done up to this point.
Daniel Dopp
I get what you're saying like Jameer Gibbs hasn't his buy so I'll just take him over Taylor and see him.
Field Jates
I'm just saying like there's a. That would be the only argument for is that like you know, you don't have to account for Taylor's absence. But yes, best player, like if you told me the guy was playing, the highest ranked player for me would be Jonathan Taylor.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, I would take Taylor.
Field Jates
That's the head of Christian McCaffrey.
Mike Clay
Where would Puka slot into your lineup that you have right now?
Field Jates
I would go Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffrey in kind of a tier by themselves and then I would probably go jsn, Puka, Jamar Chase in a three.
Mike Clay
I would agree in that line. Okay, okay. Because the only other people that were there were Puka, jsn, Devon Achan and you mentioned it, Drake London. You can maybe say Rasheed Rice if you wanted with how he's played his first three games.
Field Jates
But I tell you, you know a guy who's making the case in some ways to be a top 10 player rest of season in terms of value because of what he plays. Trey McBride.
Daniel Dopp
Ooh, baby.
Mike Clay
Rushing.
Field Jates
He is dominating right now. And Brock Bowers was amazing two weeks ago and then was not this past week. So. So with the consistency and the upside of Trey McBride, just the fact that you can get a, like, you might have a 14 point advantage if the other person has a. Just an okay tight end in a given week.
Daniel Dopp
Let's just hope Jacoby Brissette doesn't turn into a pumpkin. So. But I don't think he.
Field Jates
Even if he does.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, even if he does come back to earth, I mean, what is coming back to earth? Like the Kyler Murray level passing game that hasn't been great for years now.
Field Jates
I don't think he's come back down earth.
Mike Clay
I don't even like you. Maybe I'm just like reading into that statement. But the statement coming back to earth make it sounds like he's like playing out of the stratosphere. I don't even think he's playing like unbelievably incredible football.
Daniel Dopp
I mean, it was a really poor start this past week and then garbagete.
Mike Clay
Was down 35 to zero.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, well, that's when all this happened. That's when all the damage happened for that Arizona offense. So, I mean, that's the only thing I'm keeping an eye on because it's like the last few years when he has filled in, he hasn't played at this level. Like he's been. I mean, he's literally. I don't know if you guys used this. Yesterday I tweeted this. I don't know if you follow me on Twitter, but there's only one quarterback that has finished top 12 in fantasy points in each of his last four games. It's Jacoby Brissette.
Field Jates
Yeah, we gave you credit.
Mike Clay
We did. We mentioned that on the show and we said it was your stat.
Daniel Dopp
Well, I watch the show sometimes.
Mike Clay
That's fair.
Daniel Dopp
Other times I'm busy.
Field Jates
My other hot take I consider is this. Not really a fantasy one, but kind of a fantasy one. Mac Jones starts every game for the rest of the season for the quarterback. That's cool.
Daniel Dopp
Honestly, it's trending that way.
Mike Clay
I mean, with the way that Mac Jones is playing, are the 49ers really leaving a lot on the bench at this point?
Field Jates
Even if they did press it too? So you gotta look at their schedule because I don't think the 49ers will pull Mack if he plays well in a given game. If he throws for 250 and two touchdowns, they'll say, all right, keep it rolling here.
Daniel Dopp
They're coming off a loss, but they hung in there. Now they play what, Seattle this week.
Field Jates
That's the Rams versus Seattle.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, Rams. Seattle. Oh, Rams, Seattle.
Mike Clay
Yeah.
Field Jates
Tell me the game that you think they lose.
Daniel Dopp
Arizona.
Field Jates
You ready? Cardinals, Panthers, Browns, Biweek, Titans. And then week 15. Sorry, 16, Colts.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Jates
17.
Daniel Dopp
Probably not losing till then. I mean, I.
Field Jates
18 Seahawks.
Daniel Dopp
I've been very. I'm a little lower on the Niners than many, but thank you. Thank you, friend.
Mike Clay
Of course. Not a problem.
Daniel Dopp
But yeah, they should. I mean, those are winning. That was. I mean, that was the case for the Niners this year was like that schedule's a walk in the park.
Field Jates
Yeah. Yeah. And that's. That is a.
Daniel Dopp
There.
Field Jates
So that's my. My potential hot take.
Daniel Dopp
All right, how about. How about. How about the Jets? Who starts tomorrow?
Field Jates
I think Justin Field starts.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, probably Reese Hall. I don't like it, though.
Mike Clay
Jamus win the only person that gets to start field. And I talked about this.
Field Jates
We.
Mike Clay
You get one jet to be able to start football the rest of the year.
Daniel Dopp
He was. I. I considered him for my.
Mike Clay
For your sit.
Daniel Dopp
Not that I would go that far, but it's a tough, tough matchup for sure. I hope they switch the tie rod, but we'll see. All right.
Mike Clay
All right, here we go. So Mike unfortunately lost starts of the week. Why don't we take a quick look back? It's a big to see how everyone landed.
Daniel Dopp
I hit some hits and I'm thinking up not losing this week. Hit on some Kate Otten and I hit on Boom, boom, boom, boom.
Mike Clay
Wow, look at field field. Give me your lineup. That was huge.
Field Jates
Jared Goffer 24.8, Kamani Vidal with 17.8, Jayma with 23.9, and Colston Loveland with 9.5.
Mike Clay
Is it Vidal?
Field Jates
I heard Mike Tirico on Sunday night calling Videl.
Mike Clay
That's what I heard too. And it made me wonder if I've been saying it wrong this whole.
Field Jates
I trust Mike Tirico with anything related.
Mike Clay
Jacoby Brissette 19.4, RJ Harvey at 3.8, JMO at 23.9, and Colson Loveland for a cool 56.6. And Mike, where did you come in?
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, well, I trusted a Packer again.
Field Jates
And a Chicago Bear.
Daniel Dopp
Jordan Love throws one touchdown. If he throws that touchdown instead of handing it to Josh Jacobs I actually beat you, which I thought you had, Henderson, so I thought you had a huge night. Yeah. So that was closer than I thought. But Henderson with 28 Otten with some 17. Both good calls. And DJ Moore literally catches one 10 yard pass. I beat you as well or what? 15 yard pass. So, yeah, got burned by the zero on DJ Moore.
Mike Clay
We have back to back weeks with Bears wide receivers with goose eggs.
Field Jates
Yeah, I'll be curious if DJ Moore is available this week. Shoulder injury.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. But anyway, guys, life used to be good. Life was good. It was good back in the day when, like every week I was just like, nope, not punished again. Not punished again. But now I'm on this losing streak.
Mike Clay
All right, ready? Here we go.
Daniel Dopp
Ready?
Mike Clay
We got the spin.
Daniel Dopp
Anything but ice bath.
Mike Clay
Anything but anything but ice bath.
Field Jates
That's a very good spin right there.
Mike Clay
That is good. Spin it again. All right. Spin again's just fun. The anticipation is building. Mike has winner makes you repick a spot.
Daniel Dopp
So field has to make me repick.
Mike Clay
One of my starts of the week.
Daniel Dopp
My starts of the week. All right, that's. That's pretty light.
Field Jates
Okay, so tomorrow, when we do starts of the week or Friday, whatever day. What day is it today? Wednesday.
Mike Clay
Today is Wednesday. Yes.
Field Jates
So when we do starts of the week on Friday.
Daniel Dopp
Yes.
Field Jates
You're gonna have to bring a backup at each spot, basically.
Daniel Dopp
Okay. Okay.
Field Jates
I mean, you don't have to.
Daniel Dopp
But by the way, off the air, we're talking about a potential wrinkle to add into the week.
Field Jates
We're testing ways to make it more lively and spirited.
Mike Clay
Agreed.
Field Jates
Yeah.
Mike Clay
All right, that's gonna do it for today. This is a real fun show.
Field Jates
Thanks for having us old studio.
Mike Clay
Yeah. Especially being back in the old place. It feels good.
Field Jates
Yeah.
Mike Clay
Mike, appreciate you showing up for work finally this week. You're welcome.
Daniel Dopp
I've been on vacation since.
Mike Clay
Yeah, right, you've been on vacation.
Field Jates
I'll block you on Twitter now.
Daniel Dopp
1:05. When our show ends and the games start, I head on vacation till Wednesday morning.
Mike Clay
You're out. Like, I'm done every week.
Field Jates
It's amazing again, that private jet money helps.
Mike Clay
It really does.
Daniel Dopp
That's why I hop on out of here.
Mike Clay
Today's show was presented by Little Caesars. Make sure that you continue to love each other. Don't forget to love each other. Be kind to yourself. You guys deserve it. And we will see you back here on Thursday for another episode of Fantasy Focus.
Daniel Dopp
See ya.
Podcast: Fantasy Focus Football
Hosts: Field Yates, Daniel Dopp, Mike Clay
Date: November 12, 2025
Episode Focus: Deep-dive on Week 11 start/sit decisions, insurance running backs, and a fantasy football first-round re-rank based on season-to-date value.
This episode delivers actionable fantasy football insights for Week 11, focusing on:
The hosts maintain their signature blend of analysis, banter, and fast-paced debate, skipping over intros, ads, and outros to deliver non-stop strategy.
Purpose: With bye weeks winding down, the hosts urge listeners to stock up on lesser-rostered, high-upside RBs—potential league-winners if an injury strikes.
Ray Davis (Buffalo, 92% available)
Tajae Spears (Tennessee, 37.5% rostered)
Tyler Allgeier (Atlanta, “the layup”)
Brian Robinson Jr. (San Francisco, “a lineup lock”)
Blake Corum (L.A. Rams, 91% available)
Framework: Re-evaluate the preseason consensus top-10 picks by who’s delivered the most value through Week 10 (not rest-of-season projection).
1. Christian McCaffrey (Preseason ADP: 6th)
2. Amon-Ra St. Brown (9th)
3. Ja’Marr Chase (1st)
4. Jameer Gibbs (5th) / Bijan Robinson (2nd) — Nearly tied
5. (Reverse order between panelists)
6. Ashton Jeanty (10th)
7. Saquon Barkley (3rd)
8–9. Justin Jefferson (4th), CeeDee Lamb (7th) — Flip-flopped
10. Malik Nabers (8th)
Bust Discussion:
Second-Round Standouts for Context:
On Insurance RBs & Handcuffing (09:49):
On Jameson Williams’ Recent Surge (21:01):
On Bears WR Outages (59:46):
On DK Metcalf’s Usage:
Episode conclusion: an always-insightful, fast-paced episode full of actionable advice for fantasy managers heading into the critical playoff run.