
Week 15 Must-Start Players You Need
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Hello and welcome into Fantasy Focus Football presented by Wingstop alongside Field Gates and Mike Clay. My name is Daniel Dopp. Very excited to be able to give you part two of of our week 15 preview. We obviously have a Thursday night football game. We are going to recap dive into the rest of what is week 15. But first and foremost, I want to ask you guys a real quick. Actually, before I do that. Okay, let me do a couple things right off the top, shout out to our friends over at Trophy Smack.
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We love those guys. Head on over to trophy smack.com use the promo code focus10. Grab yourself a belt or a turnover chain or a toilet seat or whatever for your league. With everything coming to a close. Also, shout out to our buddy Eric Moody and at Eric N. Moody on social media. He's hanging out in our YouTube chat today. Go hang out with him. I want to ask you guys before we dive into the game because the game there's a lot of stuff to talk about. Are those a top five uniform in NFL history? The creamsicles.
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Good call the creamsicles. You guys know I'm passionate about my uniform. Takes a quick thought. Is amongst the top five uniforms in NFL history and I'm going to give you five. So this, I've got five here.
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I brought five to the table.
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I didn't know this was a topic.
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Nor did I. I just. I care. Yes. So I do believe the Creamsicles belong in the top five.
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Agreed.
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I do believe the Seahawks rocks belong.
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In the top five Seahawks 90s uniforms.
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The iconic Seahawks iconic looks best on number 19. Number three, I believe the Broncos orange crush uniforms are absolutely.
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Agreed.
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I love that.
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I love. I actually have six. The Patriots red jerseys as well.
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Yeah, they're good. Okay.
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Is that the Pat the Patriot.
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Yep. Great, great, great uniform right there. I have two more that are flirting for that fifth spot. I do love the Giants vintage throwbacks.
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Okay.
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Clean, crisp, excellent. And then one more that I think needs to be mentioned that I of course am forgetting. I just thought of it a moment ago. What am I forgetting?
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That's a great question, because I think what you're forgetting is the Motor City muscle, the Lion's black and powder blue with the matte helmets. That's not quite the same.
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That's good there as well. I do love the Dolphins aqua uniforms.
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You like those ones?
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Yeah, those colors. Like, I like. I like the Jags. All blacks. Whatever. They go all black. I used to use them on Madden all the time. And you have a little bit of blue in the helmet.
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That's an XFL uniform. Right.
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I love when teams that aren't all black go with a blackout uniform. I just think it looks really sick. So I'm with you on that. Also, the original Jaguars uniforms is kind of cool, too. Like, I'm okay with some of that teal? A little bit.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Who's your four?
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Four of your top four were the same as mine. I had the Creamsicles, the Seahawks, Pat, the Patriot, and the Orange Crush from the Broncos. Those are four of my top four. And then, because I'm a Lions fan, I legitimately do love the black uniforms that we have now with the powder blue helmets.
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Your thoughts on the Desert Storm rivalry? Uniforms from the Cardinals.
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Arizona Cardinals.
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They were terrible. That was our worst. The worst ones. I have a. I have a take, though. You're not going to like this one, though. I like the updated Seahawks more than the older ones.
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No, really?
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Come on.
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I don't know about that.
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Congratulations. You can have the rest of the show off.
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Yeah, that's.
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I think they're. What?
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Yeah, the one I forgot, obviously. Anything powder blue from the Chargers.
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Okay.
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Oh, yeah.
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I'm surprised that we didn't get the Kelly green from the Eagles.
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I think on the.
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Dang it, there are too many uniforms.
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There's a lot of good ones out there.
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There's like eight good uniforms for five spots.
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Yeah. And there's like maybe five good tight ends in fantasy football. Why don't we talk about this Monday? Excuse me? Thursday night football game, my friends.
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Yeah, I missed it, guys. I just assume Kyle Pitts let us down again, right? He must have.
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I mean, I guess you have to just find this. Mike would. And let's not like. This is not hyperbole. We watched the greatest game in the history of fantasy football by a tight end last night. Yes. I don't think that's a crazy thing to say.
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Nope. Has there been a higher point total?
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Not since at least 1966. Kyle Pitts last night had seven catches for 111 yards and three touchdowns. Remember on the show yesterday when we were talking about the game and Mike was like, yeah, like Kyle Pitts is tight end four for the week. Like he is a lineup lock. And I was like, yeah, I tell you what, he's going to make so much money this off season. Turns out both of us underestimated the prowess of Kyle Pitts and a huge win.
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Top.
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Top four. I meant one.
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That's what you meant.
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Yes, clearly number one play in all of fantasy for the first week of the fantasy playoffs.
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But look at this. Since 1966, Kyle Pitts 45.6. Fantasy points more than anybody ever. Shannon Sharpe, the Great Shannon Sharpe, 45.4. Second Darren Waller, playing for the Raiders a few years back, 45.0. Brock Bowers earlier this season, 43.3. A man who once wore the powder blue charger uniforms. Antonio Gates 42.5 AFC West.
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That's where you go for tight ends.
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That's right.
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Kelsey, Tony Gonzalez, like you go on and on. There's so many legends.
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If I told you that Kyle Pitts did something that Gronk has never done, Travis Kelsey has never done, you'd be like, I don't know what you're talking about.
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Yeah, there's no way.
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And he had over 150 yards and three touchdowns. First tight end I think since like I think 1990, 1966 maybe, I mean maybe that's, that's in line with that same exact timeframe. But it's been a while since anybody did something close to what Kyle Pitts did.
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He now has over a quarter of his career touchdowns in one game. He. Well near there. He came into the game with 11. He now has 14 in his career.
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Three of his 14.
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Unbelievable. His career high was last year with four. You know, it's four this season. Like it's just that came the scoring. Came out of nowhere.
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Came out of nowhere.
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Expected the added volume. He had 10 targets last week.
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He does have back to back to back games with 80 plus receiving yards. He has not been awful. And then he came out of nowhere just last night. He has been trending up with no Drake London.
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So that's what I said. We, we talked about how he was going to potentially one of the players that could define the fantasy playoffs. It took one game of one playoff week to be able to have him define it. By the way, if you're one of the 50% of people that roster him that didn't start him because only 49% did.
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Oh man.
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Then it's going to Define that playoff. Because you're going to watch a 49 point game sitting on your bench for days over the weekend.
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That is as bad as it gets. Especially from the top tight end position. I know you're probably going to get like seven from whoever you do have in there. I'll say this guys, look, if Drake London remains out, we're good to go with. It's obviously you start him but here's the thing. He's averaging 8.6 targets and 19 fantasy points per game in five games without London. But six targets and 9.1 fantasy points per game with with London in the lineup. So if London's back next week or the week after, how do we feel? Like do we think he's going to.
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I think he's still going to start. I think first of all you're not going to be the person that is going to bench a player after 45.6 fantasy points. Even if, like, even if Drake London is back. They could sign Julio Jones and Roddy White.
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You could tell he's never played fantasy before.
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What you're going to mention?
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No, I'm just saying like that happens like you know, naturally huge game is going to be of course.
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But you're not going to lie. You're not going to commonsensibly bench that guy.
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Good word. I like that.
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Yeah.
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I don't think this is with what you're saying. This isn't to try to put like a comparison on it. It's not Michael Wilson with Marvin Harrison Jr. Where like if Marv plays Marv isn't Drake and like if Drake comes back like London is still going to have a role. It's not the same kind of thing. Although I do think that Michael Wilson did put up 40 points and then we benched him the following week. So we did do that earlier this year.
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I do believe we bench him.
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I don't know if we bench.
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I thought it was when Marv came back.
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We had him outside the top 20. Yeah.
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When he's gonna play. But yeah, we've. We projected and ranked him pretty high when. When Marvel Wilson.
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Yep. Marblesick is going to be out again.
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Is there anyone else other than Bajan Robinson that's even worth consideration right now.
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In the only if the Falcons play the Buccaneers again next week. And then Kirk Cousins. Nice. He has slaughtered them so good. Remember last year there was totally two games last year. Yeah, it's two good games last year. His only good game so far this season. Remarkable performance. And David Sills, you had one job. Oh, it was so close, guys. Former quarterback or former quarterback thing showed up last night.
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He got tackled at the six yard line. He had multiple end zone targets.
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He had a walk in touchdown.
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He was there.
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Defensive back slip Jamel Dean. They kept referencing how Jamel Dean has not allowed a touchdown as the closest defender or man coverage defender since the beginning of last season. And Sills gets him at the line. Dean falls over, Kirk Cousins puts the Biscuit in the basket and David Sills fumbled it.
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That might be the best fantasy performance by a player in that contest this year. I mean, no, you wanted to score two touchdowns. Certainly the most targets.
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Yes.
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Like in the Ram Sanders targets. That was a good call process. Good result.
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Thank you, I appreciate that. All right, let's talk about the other side of this one. Because when we look at this, we knew that Mike Evans was going to return to this game. I did not expect this kind of a return from Mike Evans though.
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Dude came off a broken collarbone. And his offensive coordinator did suggest, and it's not like the offensive coordinator, Josh Grizzard is legally obligated to tell us exactly how much Mike will or won't play. There's probably some gamesmanship involved. But he had previously, he had previously suggested both Chris Godwin and Bucky Irving would come back with a slightly reduced role. And each of them did out of the gate. So it was logical for us to think, yeah, maybe 50% of the snaps last night for Mike Evans, maybe only on the field for passing plays. I don't even know how many snaps he played, but he got 12 targets, six catches, 132 yards.
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Yeah, Chris Godwin's back. I mean, I know the production wasn't there. He did catch a touchdown, but only 20 yards. But he played 95% of the snapshot. Buka was at 64%, Evans at 51%. McMillan played, he was right there. McMillan was at 49%. He looked pretty good, actually. They're there just have a luxury, a wide receiver right now. But if you look at routes, it was a little different. Godwin 37, Evans 28, a book at 24. So he was already third in line there and McMillan at 20. So that's a dangerous thing here is they're going to rotate probably four guys and mix in. Tez Johnson, who played, ran eight routes in this game as well. And we saw a tight end, Devin Culp scored a touchdown. He would have a great Raheem Sanders.
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We mentioned him yesterday. We were like, that would be a great Raheem Sanders.
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Yeah. Payne Durham Would have been great. So yeah, a lot of, a lot of tight end damage last night. Pits and Devin Culp with you four.
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Touchdowns with you guys seeing that this is one of those things. Okay so week 15, let's assume that you advance here and we're trying to prognosticate which I understand is difficult for these Bucks wide receivers. I know Harba, do you feel like you have a good sense or a good hold of how you're going to rank these guys for the next three weeks or is it just like my.
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Guess would be this because I think going into the playoffs even more so than during the regular season, you are chasing the upside. The upside plays Mike Evans, right? Big guy, hall of Famer big guy downfield Brett Bakers trust the crap out of him. I think number two and three are kind of a coin flip. Okay, yeah, probably a Buka gets the slightest of edge. But I mean again Buka went from league winner to am I even starting him?
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You said that he, Mike Evans only played 51% of the snaps. It felt like for the 51% that he was on the field he was utilized quite a bit.
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Every time he was out there will go up. He was playing, you know, 80 plus percent the first few weeks of the season and heavy target volume. Obviously Baker trusts him. He was, you know, he 12 targets. That was almost double. Abuka was second on the team of seven. So that's probably not going to change. They have the Panthers next week. Not, not too scared of that matchup of course. And then Miami in the final week, another pretty, pretty good matchup. Could see where Soul Douglas shadow coverage but not too worried about that either. So good spot for Evans down the stretch and the Bucks passing him this.
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18.
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So you had to pick who wins the NFC South. Are you going with the Panthers at seven and six? Playing the Saints on Sunday? They playing the Saints on Sunday.
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Panthers play the Saints. Correct.
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Okay. Jeez. Or the Bucks, who are at 7 and 7 with the Panthers twice, plus the Dolphins.
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I'm going to still stick with who I think is the better team in the Bucks here, but I mean they're just underperforming and it's kind of shocking. It's much like the Eagles where you're like, this offense has been so good for years. Yeah. And now what is going on?
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Expect more.
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We do.
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And they were better. I mean, they were a little better last night, but there's still like things.
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You'Re like, man, I think I would default to the Bucks as well. But I would just like to say I'm I'm really glad for just the audience at home that someone on the show knows ball and took the Falcons last night.
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No take, dude.
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So nailed that.
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That was a nothing like being the other guy just to save the show and have it work out the other way.
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Two people on the ESPN airwaves yesterday picked the Falcons. Both of them named Dan was Graz.
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The other one, Orlovsky. Orlovsky was.
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So he's invited on to only dance.
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That's right.
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I love it. For nailing the pick.
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Oh, that'll be fun.
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All right, let's get to our preview. Why not, right?
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Yeah.
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Let's dive into our week 15 preview if you even need to do one. If you played Kyle Pitts, you might have got a dub already. Here in week 15. But let's play it out just for fun.
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On that note, by the way, I forgot to mention this. I saw someone ask like a six star question like yesterday and then they followed up today and just was like nevermind, I was facing pits. Doesn't matter now.
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I feel you on that.
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I love that. All right, I'm going to start with you field Yates.
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All right. My topics are a little closer to like quick hitter because we covered a lot of ground yesterday.
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A lot of stuff Wednesday and Wednesday.
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With all that playoff defining players helped us as well. And this guy kind of is in line with Kyle Pitts. It's a player that you haven't trusted for much of the season. But crazy things happen in the playoffs. How would you grade your trust in Brian Thomas Jr. In what? @ all? So let me give you the.
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Give me some arguments.
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Here. Here are the reasons why you would maybe have a little bit of increased trust and we can go through all the reasons why you wouldn't. Last week he had six targets. That's pretty good. Better than like four or.
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Three. Better than four or.
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Three. He had a second most receiving yards in the game this season. I think it was 80 last week for Brian Thomas Jr. And and perhaps most notably, it's a fantastic matchup. It is. Jets of course are very shorthanded at cornerback between the trades of Michael Carter and of course Sauce Gardner. Plus this defense just generally being not that great. Perhaps the Jaguars have a big day. The reasons not to trust Brian Thomas Jr. Is pretty much everything that happened besides week 14, the entirety of.
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The season pretty much seen so.
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Far. Okay, so I'm taking this as a succinct. Don't really trust him.
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Play. Yeah, I would say two things. 12 or fewer fan. 12 or fewer fantasy points in nine of his 10 games. To your point. Like they're just. He had one big game. Otherwise he's kind of underwhelmed you and also the jets and I mentioned this concern. I think it was Wednesday with Trevor Lawrence. Cause I'm streaming him in a league this year in a, in a dynasty league. I don't know if Jaden Daniels, I'm going to use Lawrence. I'm a little worried about like I need the touchdowns early and what could be a comfortable win at home for Jacksonville. And. And that's kind of been the case with the Jets. They've actually allowed the fifth fewest fantasy points to receivers over the last.
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Eight weeks because of all the running back points.
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Yeah. And teams aren't throwing on Them either so they don't have to because the jets are trailing generally. So that's a little bit of my concern. That might mean lead to a five or six target game for.
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Thomas. Fair.
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Enough. I have a. I'd be really hard pressed. You're hoping you get an early 40 yard touchdown outta him. Otherwise it could be another. Another.
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Dud. There's you think that we're still going to have like discourse about who is Brian Thomas Jr. Entering into next year's draft.
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Season. You know what we do an exercise we do in the offseason a lot is hardest players to rank. Oh, he'll be up there. Might be the poster.
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Boy. Him and Trav Travis Hunter both. I don't know what to think of either of the two studs that were supposed to start the season for.
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Them. This is probably not great rationale to do so but because Travis Hunter's final exposure this season was his best game of the season, we're going to say to ourselves yeah, but he had that eight catch 114 yard game against Rams in London. He's the number two pick. He's this potential generational unicorn. So Travis Hunter gets the edge here and then next year it'll be Jacoby Myers and Tim Patrick as their top two.
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Wideouts. Let's just hope. There's a lot of reports about how much defense Hunter's going to play next year so we can. Because if. If that doesn't happen, Hunter's going to be so expensive in drafts. Yeah, he will be and it's going to be hard to justify. So I'm hoping we can get a get a discount on.
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Him. We'll.
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See. What's up for you.
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Mike? I've got. I'm just to close the loop. I would rather. I think I've got Jacoby Myers ranked just ahead of Brian Thomas Jr. Do you have it that.
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Way? He's the number one Jaguars wide receiver.
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Unfortunately. All right.
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Mike. All right, my turn. I got a couple running backs and wondering if you guys can trust them. We'll start with Ashton.
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Genti. Oh, not.
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Really. You just said no.
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Before. Before you even said the.
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Name. Yeah, don't trust.
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Him. Usually when you do this topic it's guys that I'm.
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Underwhelmed. I mean that's both of these. Both of these guys have underwhelmed at times this year. Genti 12.1 or fewer fantasy points in three of his last four. Yeah, he's 15th in carries, believe it or not, sixth in targets at running backs. He has Kind of come back. Remember, he was just not.
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Involved. We were complaining about that season.
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But he's averaging three and a half yards per carry. Terrible. 4.4 yards per target. Terrible. Terrible. He does have five plus targets in five straight games. But guys, despite all this volume, 20th in yardage, 18th and fantasy points per game at running back this season. And he's actually overachieved in the touchdown department. He has eight touchdowns this season is expected total based on his usage. 6.7. Three of those did come in week.
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Four. In that one game, what was the expectation? Did.
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You. 6.7. So it was close. But he's even in a bad.
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Offense. Did a good job. Don't go down that path with.
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Him. Right. I got.
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You. What? Why? What I.
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Do.
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6.7. I went down.
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That.
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Sorry. Keep going.
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Retiring. I'm.
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Sorry. My 3 year old said that a couple of days.
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Ago. Yeah, retiring.
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It. You did?
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Yeah. Oh, the six.
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Seven.
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Yes. No.
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Way. Yes. I sent to Mike and I was like, you bleep hole. You did this to.
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Her? You did.
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This?
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Yes. That's so.
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Funny. I was like, where did you learn that? And she was like, at school. I was like, what?
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How? Excuse.
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Me. I'm.
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Sorry. I'm going to homeschool you. That's what you guys learn these.
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Days. Needs to stop. It needs to stop. I'm over it too. But guys, Eagles top 10 in yards, touchdowns and fantasy points to running back. So perhaps in what should be a windy game in Philly, maybe he bounces.
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Back. What do.
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You. I will say this. All the things that you said.
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Track.
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Yep. I think this is a thing that Daniel and I would think of more than Mike because Mike is so reasoned and.
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Logical. Compliment. Thank.
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You. Anybody else feel like Kenny Pickett's gonna make this offense a little.
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Better? Probably is. Seriously, I don't think it can get much worse than what it's.
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Been. It's going to be tough conditions, I think for both offenses. If it is.
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Winning. Well, I'm not counting on a big day from. From Kenny Pickett, but like, can we go a game where the Raiders score more than like six points and don't take 13 sacks? That would be.
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Awesome.
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Yes. I hope they do do that. And really the Eagles need a. Eagles need a rebound game. But yeah, just get gentle. Genti and Bowers. As long as they get.
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The. As long as they get involved.
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I think we'll be happy because we're not starting anybody else. You're not starting Trey Tucker in.
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Philly. I've Lowered expectations on Ashton Genti because of the offense and we've season. So at this point he's just a low end rb. Two for.
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Me. The other one Mike that you asked about. I. I am. There's only one way that I can justify starting Bree Hall. Yeah. He's for me. Yeah, I know you mentioned it. It's on the screen.
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Too. Oh.
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Okay. You make the case and I'll tell you.
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Why. So. Okay. Okay. Here's my case. Seventh in yardage. Okay. He's been the counting stats have been there. Only four touchdowns though. And that is not a fluke. He has. Wait, no, let's do this because you guys love this game. How many carries inside the five this season for Breeze.
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Hall?
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52.
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6. 2. 2 carries inside the five, inside the five for Breeze Hall. So it's very hard to score touchdowns when you're not getting the Rock near the goal line. It is at 15 plus fantasy points six times but single digits in six games, including two of his last four. Perhaps the biggest concern here is quarterback. We just don't know. I mean Brady.
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Cook. It's gonna be Brady.
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Cook. It's probably going to be Brady Cook. That's how we have a projected that could be really. I mean if he already isn't getting scoring opportunities with knocking and Justin Fields. Yeah. Also one of the toughest possible.
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Matchups. Yeah. It's.
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Impossible. Second fewest yards, fifth fewest fantasy points, 3.7 yards per carry. Only Christian McCaffrey has reached 20 points against them this entire season. So that just tells you what the limitations are in terms of upside. Brutal matchup, not playing well. Quarterback change. This could be a huge dud for Breeze.
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Hall. Very nervous about this one Best way for you to justify starting Breeze hall is if you're like I am absolutely positive this game will be 35 minutes nothing at halftime and the jets are playing catch up the entire game. And he gets screen.
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Passes. He gets seven catches, seven dump.
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Offs. You have to hope so.
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Yeah. Yeah. So I. I am. He's up to my top 20 is where I would.
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Land.
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Yeah. It does.
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Not. 21. Yeah. He's very.
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Low.
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Not. Not a lineup block. And that's one of the few times this year, maybe the only time this year he hasn't been aligned re Hall. I would not say that he's.
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Going to be a free agent after the season so it's not really going to matter. It's. Yeah, he can make a decision if he wants to go somewhere else.
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In about what we'll be Talking. Where will we draft him if he goes to like Kansas.
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City? I would like the first 15.
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Picks.
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Yeah. Can you imagine Kansas City having two good running backs if they grab one in the draft as.
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Well? Oh boy, that would be.
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Fun. Like Fields mock draft. Mike didn't see.
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It. Mike is firmly entrenched in the latest in the NASCAR.
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Scandal. So that's.
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True. Michael Jordan.
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Me. Michael Jordan win for Michael.
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Jordan.
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Yeah. Big was. Yeah. NASCAR settled.
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Yeah. What a surprise. Michael Jordan comes out on.
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Shocker. Yeah. Soccer as usual.
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No. Love to see much about Michael's basketball.
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Career. Yeah.
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Yeah. Do you know he did that before.
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Nascar? Yeah, I did. He played.
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Baseball. I thought that checks.
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Out. That's basketball. That was.
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Baseball. I actually went to a, to a minor league game where he played at Birmingham. Birmingham.
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Barons. No.
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Way. Awesome, awesome, awesome stadium. Yeah, I loved.
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It. Did Michael do anything of note in that.
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Game? He was not.
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There. No, he was not.
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There. He was. He was playing like in the, in the minors. That was like 93, right? I mean the Bulls won the championship in 92. 93. They took two, three years off and then came back 96. 98. I was like five at that age. I was 87. I'm.
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38. Must be nice. Must be nice to be that.
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Young. I'm not even a man. I'm not a.
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Man. Not.
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Yet. Really. I'm very jealous of you guys for being a.
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Man. You guys, your first two topics were a little bit more negative. I just want to have some fun. Just meet me. Understand the thing. The guys I'm going to talk about. We know that we're starting, but I want to ask you guys, who is the biggest breakout of the Bonanza in this? Rams and.
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Lions. Honestly, Kyle Pitts is the biggest breakout in this.
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Game. In this game. Yes. I want to run through a couple of.
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Players.
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Yeah. Who is going to break out or.
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Who. No, no, no. Breakout is just.
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A. It's a loose.
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Term. Who is going to have the most.
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Points? Thank.
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You. This is a good red zone question.
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Right. So we've got at the quarterback position Matthew Stafford ranked as QB5. He has five games of 25 or more points this year. Two or more touchdowns in 11 of his last 12 games. Dude is unbelievable. Top five quarterback for his wide receivers. You got Puka, who's ranked as wide receiver, won five games. Excuse me. Seven games over 20 fantasy points this year and a 35 point game last week. In week 14, Devonte Adams. We have ranked as wide receiver seven. Five games of 20 or more. Fantasy points this season. Mike gave me this stat yesterday. I hope I'm allowed to use it. I wonder if it shows up in the playbook. But Devonte Adams leads the NFL in end zone targets with 25. The Lions have allowed 20 touchdowns to wide receivers, second most in the NFL. Eight of those touchdowns have come inside the six yard line, most in the NFL. He is their goal line.
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Guy. What a great.
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Game. And then Jameer Gibbs is running back three. This dude has been the best player in fantasy football since Week 7. Nobody has more fantasy points over that span. He scored 35 points last week and has done that four times since week seven. And you still have Amon Ra, who's wide receiver three, seven games over. Excuse me, five games over 20 fantasy points. And Jameson Williams, who I believe we have inside our top 12. After removing some of the Thursday night players, we're going to have four top 12 wide receivers, a top five quarterback and a top three running back that doesn't even include Kyren Williams or any of the other fringe guys that we could potentially talk.
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About. So touchdowns going to Shane.
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Zilstro. I was going to say who's going to get the touchdowns.
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Here? Can we do a late flex here? Can we flex this into Sunday night football rather than Vikings and.
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Cowboys? This is a one.
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Right? This is a.
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425. There is like I noticed this with the schedule. There's like a. There's another game that's really good in the 1 o' clock because there's so many good games this.
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Week. Well, I'll tell you two of them. Chiefs, Chargers, but Patriots, Bills, one o'.
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Clock. Yeah, exactly. There's some good games because it's such a good week with loaded with great.
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Games. This is the 25. The big national game for Fox is Packers and.
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Broncos. Another good, great.
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One. And then I believe cbs, their big, their, their top crew of Jim, Tony and Tracy are going to do Kansas City for.
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Chiefs. Yep, there you.
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Congregation? You can't stop.
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Authenticity.
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Booyah. Stewart was exactly like you saw him on camera. Off.
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Camera. He dialed it up.
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10%. Can you imagine the impact of young black boys and girls looking at.
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That going, I feel.
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Seen. He changed the.
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Culture. He changed sports.
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Stream.
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Booyah. Presented by Modelo right now on the ESPN app. I will go with Puka and Jameer Gibbs because I'm.
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Risky. You think both of them? I think.
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Yeah. Those are the two best.
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Bets. Those are the.
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Two. I'll go Puka if I'm on my FF now team. So I need him. I've. I have a lot of tough matchups in that league. A lot of teams, a lot of players that have tough matchups. I need Puka to come through for me in a big.
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Way. In a big way.
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See? By the way, just put some perspective on that Adam stat of you and I were talking about this yesterday when I came across it. He has 25 end zone targets. Second in that category is George Pickens with.
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16.
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Wow. And last year the NFL leader in end zone targets at the end of the regular season.
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DK.
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Yeah. Chase. Oh, 19. So Adam's already is.
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25.
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Wait. He's like he's probably going to set the all time record at least as long as I'VE been tracking this. He might if you were to go back all the way, which it's only been tracked for so long, probably since like 07 or so. I mean you could figure this out with play by play, but it might be a record. Like you might set the end zone target record this year. He's on a ridiculous.
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Pace. I I love this game and it's going to be just a ton of fun. That's all. I just wanted to talk about.
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It. So you'll love it more if the Lions.
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Win? Absolutely I.
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Will. My next question is the Panthers come back from their buy. We saw a little bit, I wouldn't call it a changing of the guard, but a shift of responsibilities in the backfield prior to their buy. Yeah, we did Rico Dowdle. It's such an amazing story and no matter what price you paid for Rico, you got so much surplus value that he has been a gigantic positive for you this year. But does he resume a lead back role or could this be more of like that 55, 45 or 6040 split with Chuba Hubbard? I'm starting to lean towards this being 55, 45, 60, 40 in favor of Rico Dowdle and I think that while Rico hasn't totally evaporated from the passing game, the two biggest changes have been one Hubbard's impact. But two is this like Rico went nuclear as a runner for a while his last four games. He has not gone nuclear over the last four games. Rico Dowdle has this many rushing yards, 53, 45, 38 and 58 rushing yards. So under 60 in all four of those games. In three of those four games he averaged under four yards per carry. His one game that he was running the ball efficiently was against San Francisco on Monday night where he after the game was frustrated by his role. He took to Twitter to make his frustrations known. I guess it's worth noting that Dave Canales has said that he still views Rico as their early down lead back, but a guy who felt like here we are once again saying this. A league winner is settling back into maybe more of an RB2 role. I do like the forecast a little bit more this week because unlike some of their recent matchups, they're not playing as high octane of an offense. Remember they've played over the past couple of games, the Niners and the Rams. Those are games in which you might be playing from behind or in a track meet where Chuba is more likely to be on the field. I think Rico dowdle could have 100 rushing yards in this game against New Orleans, who is playing better on both sides of the ball. But I think this is a game in which Carolina should be able to stay, if not with a lead.
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Tied. Yeah, no doubt about it. And remember we. His first two huge games were against Dallas and Miami and we talked about how he did pick on two of the worst run defenses in the league at the time. The third was against Green Bay, which is a tough.
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Challenge. That was.
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Legit. But in Lambeau, by the way, doing it in Green Bay is tough.
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Yeah. And you mentioned the Next, the last four weeks, Saints, Falcons, 49ers, Rams. Rams are tough. I mean, otherwise fairly neutral schedule. And he's been.
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Fine. Just so in the sense that like, you know, the 49ers game they were playing. Brock Purdy wasn't great in that game, but you're playing from behind in those games. It just makes it more complicated to have Rico on the field because of Chua's. Chuba's past game.
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Prowess. Yeah, and he's been, I mean he has 60 plus yard, actually 60 plus yards and five straight now. So he's been serviceable where you could feel comfortable starting him. But I would agree he's more like a fringe or back end RB2. Because if he, if Hubbard has the hot hand, they're going to play.
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Him. It's another one of those situations where when you look at how many opportunities he's getting, he has 18 or more touches in seven of his last nine games. And it's like, am I really going to not start a guy that's touching the ball that much? But Fields, you just laid out all the reasons why it looks like it's going to be a committee at least or a shared backfield. All right, Mike, Clay, you're up.
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Next. All right, next one up for me, guys is look at the Ravens tight ends and if we feel like we can trust them against the.
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Bengals. I'm glad you said.
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Likely. Can them take your.
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Joke? No, no, that was great. We Likely. Yeah, them. Because I like that it's not just Mark Andrews that you're bringing to the.
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Table. Yeah, it's tricky because Andrews has been quieter than likely over the last few weeks. He's been under nine fantasy points and three straight. They played the Bengals two weeks ago. In that game, Andrew six targets, four catches, 47 yards. Before that he was playing better at four touchdowns in three games. Isaiah likely, four for 25 and a touchdown last week has exactly six targets and 12 and a half fantasy points and two straight. And again One of those was against the Bengals. He had a season high 95 yards in that.
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Game. And keep in mind that was the game in which he fumbled at the half inch line. Oh yeah, it was an eight point swing for him and a big swing for Lamar as.
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Well. Yeah. My concern with him is his. The first eight weeks of his first eight games of the season he was in the single digits. He wasn't very good. His playing time hasn't changed the last few weeks. His target share has increased. We've seen a steady increase throughout the season. That gives me enough optimism. If I'm like I need a home run play here. Maybe you played against Pitts and you're like, all right, I can't start Jake Ferguson again and take 11, not his name, Joe Farmonton again and take 10.
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Points. Do you think people maybe don't understand where that joke came from because it was an FF and now joke? Do we want to let people know real.
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Quickly? Yeah, it was from FF now but we posted it on social too. It's okay Instagram. So if you want to watch it. We do. Just it was a.
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Whole. It might have been on like ESPN6 that day. So yeah, if we've had some.
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Moving. But anyway he's been slump. Maybe you want some upside and you're like maybe, you know, maybe he scores two touchdowns in this matchup because again the Bengals just brutal against tight ends. The most targets, catches, yards, touchdowns, end zone targets, fantasy points to tight ends. This season there's a chance both of these guys are startable in fantasy this week. They will be busy. And remember the Bengals good against receivers because they're so bad against running backs and tight ends. They don't allow a lot to receivers. We're downgrading Zay Flowers. So there really is an opportunity for both of these guys in this game. I would still prefer Andrews. The larger body of work, the touchdown opportunities. I have him 8th. I have likely though at.
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15Th. I think it is likely that we will talk a little bit more about this situation a little later on in the.
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Show. Wow. It's interesting because I had that same.
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Thought.
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Interesting. Hey Daniel, what's.
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Up? You talked about this Saints Panthers.
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Game. Yeah, I did. From the other side of the.
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Game. And you said what's your level of concern? Potentially something similar to that. Maybe not you. You didn't use the word concern in like the Rico Doddle situation. I have the same thing at the pass catcher spot because what level of concern do we have in starting Tellon this week after Only three catches in his last two games.
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Combined. I like.
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That. The weird thing is he has at least 11 fantasy points in four straight games. Which you're like, how does he have one like three catches in two games combined? But he's 11 fantasy points. It's because he had two catches for 35 yards and a touchdown in week 12. One catch for 43 yards and a touchdown in week 13. Saints have allowed the 11th fewest fantasy points to the position. And the last time that they played, he had 5 for 60 against this squad. I think the hard part for me is I was looking through some of the stats. We were talking texting about this last night. He's wide receiver 14 on the.
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Season.
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Yeah. McMillan is wide receiver 14. Has he been good enough to make you guys think this guy's clear? Top 15 wide receiver in.
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Fantasy. This is. I texted you something along these lines too. Let me see if I can pull it it up here. About mine was about Keenan Allen though. Kind of the, the same.
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Thing. Wide receiver 14 this week in rankings, right? Or.
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Something. Yeah. You had him in, in rankings this week. That high. He's a little bit lower in season.
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One. Yeah. Wide receiver. I, I said, why is wide receiver so gross? Keenan Allen has had single digit fantasy points in six straight. And under 11 fantasy points, nine of his last 10. We're talking, we're going all the way back to like the first month of the season. Nine of his last 10, under 11 points. He said 20 fantasy points one time this season. He is 14th in fantasy.
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Points. That's.
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Crazy. Wide receiver this season he's had four good games. One of them was really great and he is 14th in fantasy points. So we like receivers just so top heavy and then there's that massive.
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Drop off, a big drop in the middle and.
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You'Re. It's hard to believe he sits 14th. And McMillan's similar. Like he just kind of all.
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Part for me is I think McMillan is an awesome talent. We've seen him do really well.
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But he's a real deal.
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Yeah. The uncertainty around any Bryce led passing game, I have no idea what it's going to look.
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Like. I want to toss this out to you two and see whether you buy or sell this notion. When a player goes from like hot to cold or cold to hot for an extended period of time, let's use a Mecca Abuka in this.
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Case.
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Right? To me, it's not only a little bit easier to make a decision on that player, but if that player has, in the case of Abuka, A bad week. And I would say last night was okay, what, 10.4 fantasy points, not great. Right. But if you left that game dissatisfied, you're kind of like, I went into that game not really that excited or optimistic about him. Like, why did I do that? I almost feel like McMillan. Because there hasn't been a lot of rhyme or reason. It's not like he was hot for the first half and cold for the second half, but you're just kind of like he's one of those players that you don't really think about it that much. You either play him or you don't and you live with the result. Does that help you guys process it a little bit more or.
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No? That's basically exactly the way that I see it. He's the number one pass catcher in this offense. You know, he's going to get volume and because of that I'm probably going to start him in like the wide receiver 20 to 25 range. I just think that he has just as much bust potential as he has boom potential. And that's part of like starting Tedro.
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McMillan. I'm with you guys on.
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That. Yeah, yeah. His target shares have been massive this year. He is a 27% target share on the season and it was really high prior to his most recent game. That was the Rams too, one of the best defenses in the NFL. They shadowed him a little bit with Emmanuel Forbes. That's kind of been the plan for the Rams over the last month or so. They'll put Forbes on on the top receiver. He saw a little bit of that. But also he has four touchdowns in his last three games. So I mean he's fighting the end zone. Yeah, I think he has a shot at a decent game here. I have him in the FF now league. I have him. I trade him away in focus. I only have him in FF now, but I'm going to start him.
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Flex. Consider out just outside the top 20 for all of.
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Us. I would assume we've been saying a lot of just outside the top 20. It's not a great.
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Week. And that new wide receiver 3.
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With upside seriously brings you to a player that I think might be in sort of that same conversation. Like is this guy still top 20 in his position? I wanted to focus on a pair of Steelers here. Okay. Two guys who one of them, it's more of a prolonged stretch of our trends and then one who it's a one game trend and we're trying to make it a multi ball.
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Game. Darnell.
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Washington. Thank you.
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Michael. Well, Said by Mike and Jalen Warren over the last four games has not topped 70 total yards. He has no top 15 finishes and of course he's ceding a lot of work to Kenny Gainwell. Is he still a top 20ish running back to you guys? The answer is probably because, yeah, ish. So. But Warren felt like one of those guys that after the first four weeks, five weeks, maybe even the first six, seven weeks, you were like, damn it. After the first seven weeks you're like, you know what? This guy is like, what a great draft value this was for me. It was a dream. By the way, it still has been a very strong draft value. The problem is draft value doesn't matter as much when you're in the playoffs and you're worried about like, can I win this week or not. So Warren just feels like a lower ceiling player even in on paper, a very good matchup against Miami who hasn't been as bad against the run. But this is not like facing off against the Jaguars. DK Metcalf and by the way, DK full participant in practice. Remember the situation where he stayed in Baltimore overnight for medical evaluation. He was sore and I think like the stomach abdomen era. He said yesterday about a million times, I'm good. Full participant in practice. Mike Tomlin's always very good. He is expected to play on Monday night. After a ton of talk about the Steelers and not utilizing DK correctly and a fantasy football now trivia question about 20 plus air yard passes, the Steelers actually treated DK Metcalfe like, believe it or not, DK Metcalf last week. And I don't think it's a total coincidence that their offense looked the best it has in how long a while.
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Right? Yeah.
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Yeah. I mean the passing offense was legitimately good last week. Are we going to see more of that this week? Monday night against the Miami Dolphins? Because we can't say with certainty but man, it would really behoove us. But the Steelers, yeah, I think it's clear, like if they can get an explosive version of DK Metcalf, this team has a chance to stay atop the AFC North. Am I confident that's going to happen? No, but my eyes are open a little.
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Bit. After last week, I don't feel.
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Like isn't that top 20 of wide receivers as.
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Well? I agree with that. After what you saw last week, I think there's a part of the like, it will be tough for me to think that the Steelers didn't see that and be like, oh shoot, we should do that more. We should do a little bit more of DK Metcalf because of that. That being said, it is tough and we've been making jokes about this all day. It is tough to prognosticate sometimes what an Arthur Smith led offense is going. So that's the one trepidation that I have. However, with what DK did last week, I'm starting him in a league this week. So I've got him as a top, I believe, top 20 guy. Mike, do you know where you're at on.
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DK? I'm pretty high and I mean it's tricky because like he. Yeah, he was seventh last week. Before that he went five straight games outside the top 20. But again, he's 19th on the season. This is kind of my point. Once you get outside the top 10 to 12 wide receivers, it just gets messy and then you're like, how does. Yeah, Metcalf. I don't want to rank him top 20. I'll feel comfortable about it, but who am I putting ahead of him at this point? You could pick apart all of.
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These guys to the point about that being the best that Steelers passing offense has looked. It was the most yards in a game this season for Aaron Rodgers. 284The most passing yards by the team because there were some games of course with Mason Rudolph all season long. So no surprise they need to keep going back going. It tends to help your offense a.
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Little. I kind of feel like didn't. Wasn't he college teammates with one Arthur Juan.
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Brown? He was teammates with Arthur Juan.
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Brown. Didn't AJ say good things happen when you get me the football? I feel like the same thing is happening right now in Pittsburgh when they just do the same thing with DK.
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Metcalf. Dude like AJ totally fooled people when he was like, you should not be starting me in.
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Fantasy. Oh.
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Right. Since then he is like the best player in.
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Fan. I know, I.
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Know. That was my last one. So on the start to the week. Next. Mike, what do you.
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Got? Okay, last one for me is. Who else? Joke Farterson. Our boy. Yeah, he's on the list. Fellas, we got to talk about this guy because we've had a full.
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Screen. Yeah, Jake Ferguson or Joke Fartison. I.
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Love. Yeah. Which one are we going to get? Fellas? First of all, did not practice yesterday, so we have to keep an eye on this one. I don't even know if he's going to play this week, but if he's out, why. I don't know what the injury is off the top of my head, I got it.
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Right. You're a good.
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Turn. That's not.
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Going. So we'll keep an eye on that. But if he go, even if he does go, I don't know if we can trust him right now. Certainly CD Lamb returning has been a factor here, but he was pretty good early in the season with CD Lam in the mix. At that point, George Pickens had not done much. But let's check out these splits. First seven games, 8.3 targets per game and a 22% target share. His last six games he's at 5.3 and a 14% target share. Fantasy points per game have dropped from 17.2 to 8.4. It's six touchdowns in those first seven games, down to one over his last six. He does have three top 12 finishes in his last four, so the floor has been okay. But he's been under 12 fantasy points in six straight games. They're playing the Vikings. They've allowed the fourth fewest fan passing yards and the fourth. And excuse me, try this again. The Vikings have allowed the fourth fewest passing yards and just 14 passing touchdowns this season. Ferguson for me is a fringe top 10.
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Option. I think he's one of those guys that when we talk about obviously dudes that exploded and then sort of like fell off in the season, like he fell off just like a lot of the other players did. The difference is he plays a position where his fall off is still startable for us, unlike the rest of the.
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Season. You're right around 10.
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11.
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Exactly. But he's not getting you the big.
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Games. You like Tyler Warren specific to this.
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Week? Yeah, that's a great.
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Call. You can drop him down, but how far can you drop Tyler.
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Warren? Only so.
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Far. I honestly, I feel a little better about that passing game now that Philip Rivers is in there, believe it or not. Just because I think if Riley Leonard's there, we know he's a runner. He was huge running numbers at the collegiate level, especially last season. I think it was like over a thousand yards. It was sacks away so that I was really worried about them not scoring at all and just not any passing volume. Like maybe 19 to 21 pass attempts in that game. At least with Rivers. You think he's going to chuck it around so that might help Warren a little. And Michael Pittman makes him startable. I know it's Philip Rivers first game in a long time in Seattle. There's a lot of reasons to stay away, but I'm just saying it's better than I thought two days.
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Ago. It is interesting that Riley Leonard has practiced in full for back to back days. So a guy who has been with the team since he got drafted in the sixth round in April has been taking quarterback two reps for over a month now since Anthony Richardson got hurt, is practicing in full. Still probably isn't going to start on.
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Sunday. Yeah. I'm speaking as if it's Rivers because.
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That'S. Yeah. Does that tell you more about Riley Leonard or Philip Rivers? Like, is Philip Rivers humming that ball right now back at.
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Practice? No, I don't think so.
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No. It sounds like he is though.
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Right? I mean, yeah, but like, is that like best. Best shape of my life, kind of a camp report when he comes back? I don't.
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Know. But he's fresh.
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He's. I was doing five years NFL Live with Dan Olofsky on Tuesday when the Rivers news became official that he signed and Dan was. I was like, dan. I was like. But dude, like, I've seen Dan like Dan at the Pro Bowl a couple of years ago. Did the quarterback throwing.
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Challenge.
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Yeah. And smoked.
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It. It was.
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Great. It was awesome. And he's like, dude, I can. I'll throw the football for the rest of my life. Effectively. It's everything else. Yes. Right. It's like when Leonard Williams is bearing down on you and you have to avoid that sack or if you take that Sack, you've got £300 crushing your chest. Like that's the stuff. That is.
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Scary.
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Yeah. He will always. Philip Rivers will always be able to throw the football at a high level, but if he doesn't have time or space to throw it, it may not matter come Sunday in.
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Seattle. That'll be an interesting one to be able to just see what that. I mean, just for us. Yeah, we're going to be watching.
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That. I mean, selfishly, we have the Colts on Monday Night football in week.
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16.
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16. We want flip Rivers is instead the backup up this week. I would hate.
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It.
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Yeah. Yeah, we'll see how that works out. We'll see how that one works out really quickly. Just to know, and I'm glad you brought it up, Mike. Jake Ferguson was limited on Wednesday and then downgraded to a DNP on Thursday. So we definitely just want to make sure that we monitor that just.
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To make sure he practices today. If he does, he'll probably play. If he doesn't practice today, he's going to be out, most.
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Likely. Speaking of, let's dive into the rest of the Week 15 practice report really quickly. My friends, Woody Marks, just to make sure that everyone is aware, did not practice Wednesday, was limited on Thursday. I'm fully expecting him to go. So it sounds like they were giving him some rest because first off he had a million touches last week and no Nick Chubb this.
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Week. Totally agree.
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Yep. So not officially no Nick Chubb, but it seems like it's going to go that.
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Way.
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Correct. Alvin Camara did not practice Wednesday or Thursday. Kind of feels like we're going with the Devin Neal route. Michael, where do you have Devin Neal's.
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Projection? I believe he's 19th in the order at running back. Yeah. Top 20 for sure based on his usage. I mean he's been the guy. He's been the featured running back and the he's been passing game running it fine. Could score. He scored his first NFL touchdown last week early on in that game. So.
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Yeah. Yep. So be able to. You can spin him up for your lineup. I like him more as a flex play than an RB2 just because I haven't seen him. It's just tough to start a guy like that in a win or go home playoff matchup as your RB2, but if you don't have another option, you know he's going to be the one touting the Rock. Josh Jacobs did not practice on Wednesday or Thursday. We have a report here. I want to share this tweet from Rob Demofsky shared this yesterday. Josh Jacobs said he underwent another MRI on Monday just to make sure he didn't make his existing knee injury any worse and it came back clean. He continues to deal with sweat and it kicked in again versus the Bears. He is not making any declarations for Sunday yet, so that does not mean he's not going to play. But it does sound like you should at least make preparations for someone in case he doesn't.
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Go. There's a silver lining here. It's one of the cleaner one for one swaps. Right. If you have Emmanuel Wilson, he's going to step into a large, large role in place of Josh Jacobs and he was effective when he got the opportunity to do so in a game earlier this season. It would suck suck if Jacobs miss misses the game on Sunday. But they have to take the bigger picture view.
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Here. Yeah, they are trying to win not only the NFC north, but I think they still got a shot at the. I mean they do have a shot at the nfc.
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Yeah. So like that's no doubt about.
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It. They definitely want LA and Seattle playing next Thursday.
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Night. There you.
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Go. Like that. A couple more Players here. Marvin Harrison Jr. DNP Wednesday and Thursday. Mike, I believe you've pulled him out of the projections. Is that.
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True? Yeah, once. He was not at, at practice Thursday and it hasn't practiced for how long now? Yeah, pretty.
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Long. Let's talk.
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Shot. I would.
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Say. We talked about this. Sorry, do you want to go.
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Ahead? No, I think I'm. I was going to say what you're going to ask me, which is I'm going to have Michael Wilson on the border of the 20 best ranked wide.
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Receivers. Yeah. Knowing that he is going to be the guy. We talked about it a little bit yesterday, but for those that didn't listen yesterday, I would love to just quickly redo the conversation. Knowing that you're not projecting. Marvin Harrison Jr. We do expect a Derek Stingley shadow. What does that mean for the projection for Michael.
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Wilson? It may means he's maybe the hardest guy to rank this week because they might. He might see 13 targets. So he has as of late. But it's a very tough matchup against a good. An elite Houston defense. So he is a tricky evaluation. But I, I'm going to start him in a league, so I'm gonna. I'm gonna take a chance on how well he has played.
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In.
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Yeah. Yeah. Because maybe the efficiency is poor, but maybe he goes 13 for 95 and scores, you know. Yeah. Volume has just been so.
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Good. It'd be insane if you went 13 for 95 and a touchdown against the.
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Texans. I'm okay. Yeah, I.
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Would. I mean, happy up for.
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That. It's asking a lot. But what, what can you. I mean, think about it. If he's scoring 35 a game without Harrison. Yeah. What do you knock him down to for this matchup? 25:15. If he's, if he has an eight point game, you're gonna be like, man, that's a stark difference. But it is the Houston.
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Defense. It is.
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Houston. He's not a lineup block, I'll say.
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That. All right, one more guy here really quickly at the wide receiver spot. T. Higgins was limited both Wednesday and Thursday. Still has not yet cleared the concussion protocol. There's a chance that he still has time to be able to do that. However, if you have Tegans and you want to use him, I just think it's a good idea to make sure you have a backup just in case he does not clear.
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Protocol. Are you guys familiar with the T. Higgins Hill entrance thing?
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Yes.
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Yes. When T. Runs up the hill, the Bengals practice field, that's been a trend in the past of him expecting to play ran up the hill.
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Yesterday. Did he.
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Really? Obviously this one's out of his hands. He has to clear the concussion protocol which the final step and are you gonna bring up CD Lamb right.
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Now? That's what I was just gonna pull.
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Up. Okay. Cause CD Lamb did just clear concussion protocol today. So he is going to play on Sunday night. But of course it's not how Lamb feels. It's what the independent neurology.
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Neurological. That's neurologist.
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Neurology. There you.
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Go. Independent neurological consultant. Sounds right how that person has to clear the.
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Individuals. The thing with CNT is that it sounds like he developed symptoms like overnight into Monday. So I don't know if that's going to push things back an extra day or how that will work. It's just something that we're.
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Monitoring. He was out the prior week with a concussion so that's why I was pulling him out of the projections. Usually those guys.
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Don'T. It's easier to bake the guy back in on Friday or.
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Saturday. Yeah, I mean we'll see what. Yeah we'll see what happens today. Usually I default towards leaving him in but in this case I honestly I'm surprised he's questionable. I thought he was just going to be out this week. So we'll.
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See. And maybe the best projection of the week. David and Joku DNP both Wednesday and Thursday. Harold Fanon was tight end four until we found out no Drake London. Then Mike moved his projection of Kyle Pitts ahead of Harold Fannin. Smart call there but with no David and Joku do you think that a 45 point game is in play for Harold Fannin this.
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Week? Not in that.
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Offense. Okay.
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Probably. Although Shadur, I mean I don't know. Look what he did last.
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Week. Maybe he also and Joku is the kind of guy that is prone to a double DNP and then play.
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Comeback. Yeah but he doesn't. He's not factoring in right now. He's not playing as the guy any targets. He's just not a.
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Factor. That is it for our Week 15 practice report. Obviously continue to monitor throughout the weekend. Come check out fantasy football now Sunday morning Stefania Bell and field Yates do the day to day segment. Make sure that we will get everybody updated back on ESPN too by.
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The way love that ESPN too I think for all of the final.
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Weeks. But don't be fantasy.
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Playoffs. Yeah it's tough because like loosen the deuce sounds so much better than like we haven't found a good one for News, you know, so we'll have.
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To lose on the.
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Deuce. Yeah, there's something.
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There. Sounds.
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Good. No, it's not quite the.
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Same. The deuce does have a nice.
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Ring. I got.
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Nothing. We're going to do our starts of the week here for week 15. One of the things I need to let you guys know, we do not have a punishment for Field Minister Yates yet, as you did lose starts of the week last.
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Week. I thought I had to do the mini golf.
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Challenge. You do. And so what I'm saying is.
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We'Re not putting it off.
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Today. Yes. That's what I'm.
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Saying. We need to find a place in this godforsaken state that is 3 degrees with ice on.
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It. It's where you're allowed to bring a little putting green with you, and we'll figure some things.
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Out. And there you go. Golf indoors up there. Your closest.
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Bet. I was listening to the Hoop Collective. Go check it out. One of ESPN's great.
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Podcasts.
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Absolutely. Brian Windhorse and often the Tims. But today, Bobby Marks and. And it's Goodwill joined him. And Bobby was like, yeah, I'm here in la, getting up early. Good news is it's supposed to be the hottest day on record in December for Los Angeles. And I love Bobby. He's amazing. And I almost punched him through my.
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Phone. Like, I would love to be there right.
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Now. Yeah, I was like, this morning, it was. I think it was like another day with like 12 degrees. It sucks. It's.
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Gross. 31 right.
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Now. Oh, it's all the way up to.
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31.
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Yeah. Great.
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Day. It's the hottest day in the record in the state of December or the state of Connecticut in.
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December. I want you to become a weather guy for.
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That. Like, the way that I love Connecticut. I just don't like the.
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Cold. I'd like to go back to the moment in the show where you said that you were going to start homeschooling your daughter because of Mike 6, 7 thing. And I just want to know, like, is that schooling going to be like, where did Gunnar Ol Shefsky go to school? Where did. That's what it is. It's going to be like collegiate stuff. Yes. Yeah, I love that. All right, let's do starts of the week field. I'm going to let you go first. You were unfortunately the loser in week 14. Here in week 15, your starts of the week.
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Are. By the way, you're totally tripping me on Gunner because Gunner went to some tiny.
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School. I love it. I love.
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This. It was like, in North Dakota or like, Minnesota, Mankato. It's one of those schools in. I guess what I would describe is, like, the Mount Rushmore.
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Region. Oh.
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Okay. It's like a D2 or D3.
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School. It.
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Is. Oh, my.
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God. Yes, it is. I've never even heard of this school. This is.
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Amazing. Minnesota, Minnetaka or.
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Something. It is not. I'm going to say it wrong. Do you want me to say it or do you want me to.
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Wait? Go for it. Yeah. No, say.
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It. It is Bemidjdi.
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State. Yes, of course.
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Yeah. What is Bemidjdi.
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State? I believe it's. I think it might be Bemidji.
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State.
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Bemidji. I think it's Mon. Or Minnesota. Minnesota is Bemidji.
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State. Dude, I love this. I'm all in. This is.
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Fantastic. I can't even comment on.
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This. Bemidji State, where I think I've told this story before on the pod where, like, Gunnar Olshewski got signed originally by the Patriots as an undrafted free agent. And I think it was the incomparable Mike Reese who was asking him about, like, you know, how important is it you to have an opportunity or something? And he was like, man, all I need is three hots and a cotton. We were like, what? He was like, three meals in a bed to sleep. They're like.
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Okay, that works, honestly. All right, well, I'm ready for Palmer to break out her Gunner. Olshevsky went to Bemidji State a little bit later on. It'll be a good one. All right, give me your starts of the week.
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Field. Let's do it here. My quarterback start of the week is Trevor.
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Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence.
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Okay. Talked about his favorite matchup earlier on in the show. Just Outside the top 10 for quarterbacks, running back is Kenny G. Kenneth Gainwell. A lot. A lot of passing game utilization for the Steelers as well. At wide receiver, I am tapping into my wild card for the guy who has been red hot of late, Arthur Juan.
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Brown. Yes, like.
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That. Against the Raiders on Sunday, even with some wind, potential snow in Philadelphia as well. And then finally, my tight end, Isaiah.
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Likely. Yeah.
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Baby. So the Bengals, I did this two weeks ago, and everybody was saying, Mark Andrews, I said, let me throw the curveball. It's a good call of Isaiah.
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Likely. I like.
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It. Away from another touchdown.
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Yeah. Heck, yeah. Mike, you want to go next? You want me to go.
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Next? Good.
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Good. All.
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Right. Last at the quarterback spot. Not a lot of people have the stones to start Phillip Rivers and starts of the.
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Week. Including.
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You. Including me. I'm going to start. I'm going to start Jared Goff against the Los Angeles Rams. A game in which I think he's going to have to throw the ball a whole bunch at the running back position. I'm going to go with a guy that I talked about earlier this week. Tough matchup against the Chiefs, but a lot of volume. I love Omarion Hampton outside the top 20 at the running back spot. Going to lean on him there for my wide receiver position. I already mentioned him. But the other side of the golf stack, I'm going to go with the perennial touchdown scorer Devonte Adams as my wild.
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Card.
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Yep.
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Okay. And then at tight end, I as well. And following suit with field minister Yates because Isaiah likely is going to find the end zone this.
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Week.
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Week. Give me likely as my.
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Identity. That really makes for an interesting.
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One. It really.
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Does. All right.
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Ready?
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Yep. Mine are quarterback wild card going back to back weeks with Lamar.
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Jackson.
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Wow. Back to the. Well, Lamar against the Bengals. So I'm hoping he's. Yep. Actually we'll get there. Hold on. Running back Devin Neal talked about him. Yeah, we did talk about that. I'll be back for the Saints this week. He's been pretty good against the Panthers wide receiver. I'm going Khalil shot Shakir against New England. I think, you know a lot of motivation here for the Bills. They need to win this game. I think Shakira will be busy like the value there. And then tight end. I'm not going Isaiah.
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Likely. What? I'm going with.
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Dallas. God go.
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There. I like it against the Raiders finest.
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Import. Yeah, I'm at seven on him, you guys. The consensus is very low on.
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Him. So people didn't catch up after Monday.
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Night. Yeah, that must be it. So I'm. I'm gonna go with Goddard. I like a lot of these guys in DFSS this week as well. Yeah. Jackson, Neil Goddard, good values. So that's my pick. So I'm. I'm pro Lamar. I guess I'm pro Mark Andrews. I'm anti. Yeah. Likely.
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Here. So we as long as we just get a big Isaiah likely game field and I could be in a good spot here. We'll see how that one works out. All right, let's take a couple of questions you guys want from our chat over on YouTube. Big shout out as well to our buddy Eric Moody. Follow him on social media at Eric and Moody. First question comes from riches. Cause a 4362 is everyone on Scoza. Is that what it.
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Is? Yeah, you're right. I think.
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Rich. You're right. It is Rich Goza. Yeah. 4362. Is everyone on Dowdle over Devin.
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Neil? Nope. I. I have them. We've been getting some good questions and 18 I have Neil one spot.
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Ahead. I lean ever so slightly towards Rico.
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Dowdle. I think I would too. I would go Dowdle over Devin. Same.
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Game? Yeah. Yeah, same game. Carolina has been consistently poor against receivers all year long. So I'll.
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Go. Neil, let me say.
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This. I mean, who's going to be. We know that Rico Dowdle has Chuba Hubbard waiting the wings to potentially split stuff. Who else is the next man up in that Saints running back room that Devin Neal has to win.
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Then?
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Hull.
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Yeah. Taysom.
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Hill. Not quite this last. Not as. Not the same as Chuba Hubbard. What it feels like in that situation. All right. All right. Let's do another question here. Another question from our YouTube chat. Davis Allen. There we go.
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Guys. 28 tight.
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End. Do I go with Javante Williams, Josh Jacobs, Travis ETN or RJ Harvey? Let's assume that you need to play one of these.
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Guys. Let's assume that Davis. I want in on this league next.
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Year.
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Yeah. I'm choosing between like, you know, like Alec Engeld and Patrick Ricard. And you're choosing between Javante Williams and Josh.
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Jacobs. Those are two great.
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Fullbacks. I think this. Let's whittle this down here. Josh Jacobs could take himself out of the mix.
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Correct?
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Yeah. If Josh Jacobs plays, I'm starting.
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Him. Yeah. It's 10. Vert's a tough matchup. I'm a little worried about if maybe if he is active. Is he.
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Limited? A little more than.
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Usual. I'm a little nervous. Hardy got a.
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Bench. He's playing Minnesota too. Javante's like, that's not a great matchup.
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For. I'm lowest son Javante in this group. I have ETN and Harvey ahead of.
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Him. You have Harvey ahead of Javante.
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Is a potential Smash play.
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Huh? Jacobs six in my ranks. ETN with a great matchup against the jets at 11. Harvey at 12 against the Packers. He's been so good. And then I have Javante in the tough matchup against Minnesota at 15. So they're all good plays. I mean, I don't think you have a wrong.
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Answer.
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Yeah. If you want to. I mean you could bench. You could bench Jacobs.
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Here. I think I would play Travis etn like it kind of feels antithetical but like he's been playing really well. Great matchup up. Okay with that I would lean the match up and just hasn't.
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Really. Come.
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On. He hasn't happened yet.
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Game. He got hurt and then he's just been the clear backup again. So it's been I think.
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Because. So you've got Josh Jacobs taken on Denver which is a tough defense. You have R.J. harvey taking on the Broncos which can be a tough.
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Defense. And you have RJ Harvey taking on the.
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Packers. Sorry, packers tough.
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Defense.
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Yes. And then you've got Javante taking on Minnesota. So it feels like the only good matchup that you have there is etn which is kind of I think where it's why I'm leaning that close. All right, let's do another question here really quickly. Next one comes from Benjamin Hart wants to know can I trust Tyler Warren going forward or do I pick up someone like Darren.
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Waller? I might stay with.
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Him. Yeah. I mean the thing is that we've got three games left so there's a chance that like Darren Waller outscores Warren and one of the next two better steady your offense. But I'm going with Ty.
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Warren.
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Yeah. Dan Waller has not really picked up where he left off since he came back. And part of that Greg Dulcich.
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Baby. That's exactly what I was going to say. Big role. They're using 12 personnel. Not a staple of a Mike McDaniel offense. But we've seen a lot of Greg Dulcich out there as.
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Well. All right, let's keep it moving. We got a little bit more time. Let's do another question. I love being able to do this. Deshaun Carter wants to know Rashid Shahid Cooper Cup. Xavier Worthy or Evan Engram at the wide receiver tight end flex.
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Position. I think it needs to be.
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A little bit Shahid of Worthy.
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Orang. Yeah. I think you need to kind of go process of elimination. Shaheed. I'm probably out on there. Shahid did have a good game last week but still that passing game.
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Runs it was buoyed by a punt return touchdown.
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Down.
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Yeah. Cup. I think there's limited upside even after a touchdown last.
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Week. I.
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Agree. Worthy. I think there's limited.
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Upside. There is no upside for Xavier.
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Worthy but I still would take him. Yeah. Answer to.
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Yeah. Tough matchup here. Cup. And she'd have a good matchup against the Colts who are very short handed at corner again. We thought that was going to be their strength but they're going to be down their top two corners most likely. We still expect Sauce Gardner to miss. Trevarious Ward has another concussion. He's back on iron. He'll be out for the rest of the regular season. So I'm definitely a good matchup, but I still don't know if I could trust the upside of those guys. I'm going to go Worthy and hope that he has a splash play in this game. But it is a tough matchup against the Chargers, so I understand why this question's being asked because that's a tough.
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Spot. I still, like, I didn't really make a bet or a declaration. I just think it would be wild if the fastest player in the history of the NFL combine for an offense that kept telling us all offseason we're going to be explosive. Could really go a full season without a single 20 point.
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Game. That's.
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Unreal.
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Unreal. Especially the ones that no 100 plus yard game.
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Either. Here's the.
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Thing. This is where he was at his best last.
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Year. It's a reminder. This is. Yes, it's almost like, like him and BTJ were the two guys that pulled the wool over our eyes last.
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Year.
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Yeah. They had the perfect scenario set up for them to thrive. The only way their offense can move the ball at all last year was to funnel every throw their way. And that's what.
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Happens. It's. It's.
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Frustrating. That guy this year, like, is that a Mecca Abuka at the beginning of the season? Like he thrives in part because the ball could only go to him. Talking fantasy purposes, people. I don't.
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Know. Once the Mike Evans injury happened, it did kind of feel that way, but it also, I don't know. Here's the hard part. Was Xavier Worthy. The hard part for me is that once Rashid Rice came.
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Back.
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Yeah. Five of his six games that he's played have just been. He's scored more fantasy points than Xavier Worthy has all year long. Like he is. It's not, it's not like, boy, we just don't have a role in this offense to have a wide receiver that we're going to target, that we're going to like, you know, make sure that we feature. It was when Rasheed Rice was out, Xavier Worthy was not even close to being the guy that Rasheed Rice is just not. And I know they're two totally different wide receivers with different skill sets and whatnot, but it's not like when one guy's out, shouldn't the next guy step.
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Up? They use a first round pick on him. They trade it up in the first round to get this guy. Guy, meaning Xavier Worthy because we think we have a game altering.
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Player. Yeah.
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Yeah. I don't know if I have.
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A comp right now for those guys late last year. Like, I don't think Ted, like I, I believe Tedron McMillan's a real deal. I mean, but maybe next year they add more pieces and he has a Brian Thomas sort of returner, but I don't think.
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So. Like, say like Michael Wilson might be the one because with Marv.
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Still.
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Yeah. All right. That's going to do it for us today, guys. We are at Week 15. The playoffs are upon us. Go out there, set your lineups. Have fun. Thank you so much for hanging out with us. U.S. today's show was presented by Wingstop. Come hang out with us on fantasy football now Sunday morning, 10am Eastern time on ESPN2 to get you set up for everything that you need for this week. On behalf of Mike and Field, don't forget to love each other and be kind to yourself. You guys, you deserve it. We love you. We'll see you on.
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Date: December 12, 2025
Hosts: Field Yates, Daniel Dopp, Mike Clay
Special mentions: ESPN, Stephania Bell (not present in this episode)
This episode of Fantasy Focus Football dives deep into must-start players for Week 15 of the fantasy football season. Field Yates, Daniel Dopp, and Mike Clay recap a historic Thursday Night Football performance, dissect injury news, debate lineup dilemmas, analyze backfields and wide receiver groups, and furnish their official “Starts of the Week.” The tone is humorous, collegial, and occasionally self-deprecating, making for a lively yet information-rich listen for fantasy football managers looking to navigate playoff matchups.
On Kyle Pitts’ Historic Night:
“We watched the greatest game in the history of fantasy football by a tight end last night.” – Field Yates, [04:00]
On the agony of benching Pitts:
“You’re gonna watch a 49-point game sitting on your bench for days over the weekend.” – Daniel Dopp, [06:22]
On Breece Hall’s Redzone Usage:
“How many carries inside the five this season for Breeze Hall?...2.” – Mike Clay, [21:10]
Fantasy Bonanza Game:
"You’re going to have four top-12 WRs, a top-5 QB, and a top-3 RB that doesn’t even include Kyren Williams!" – Daniel Dopp, [25:04]
On the state of fantasy WRs:
“Wide receiver is just so top heavy and then there’s that massive drop off.” – Mike Clay, [36:37]
“He’s 14th in fantasy points... He’s had four good games. One of them was really great and he is 14th in fantasy points.” – Mike Clay, on Keenan Allen, [36:28]
The episode blends expert analysis, banter, and sarcasm. The hosts readily admit frustrations over the unpredictability of 2025’s fantasy landscape, especially at the secondary positions (WR, TE), while maintaining a “stick with your process and don’t tilt” message throughout.
In the hosts’ own words:
“You deserve it. We love you. We’ll see you Sunday.” – Daniel Dopp, [65:33]