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Quick break. Want to make a big play on your next paint project? Go with Behr Marquis interior paint and primer only at the Home Depot. With over a thousand colors, exceptional hide and advanced stain blocking, Behr Marquis is built to stand up to real life. No do overs, no wasted weekends. Just bold color and a finish that holds strong. One coat coverage, no overtime. Behr Marquis only at the Home Depot. How doers keep get more done. Valid only when tinted to colors from bare Marquis interior. One coat hide collection. What's good friends? Welcome into Fantasy Focus Football alongside Mike Clay and Phil Jates. My name is Daniel Dopp. Super excited to be here. We are officially on to week two. Waivers ran last night, which meant we've turned the page from week one to week two. Mike, great to see you for the first time this week. Thank you for showing up to work.
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Yeah, it's, it's good to be here. I was telling you before the show, I'm a little sore here just from sitting in my chair the last like three days, just working nonstop on everything, grinding projections.
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Going to say the truth is so.
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Much like post week one is unbelievable with the amount of information that we, we get. It's all, it's like all new. It's all new information.
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It's all new, Mike. And let's be honest, you're actually sore from putting the ESPN fantasy team on your back.
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On your back is an absolute ton tank.
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He's a workhorse. He is a machine. We are nothing without Mike Clay's efforts and that is especially true early on in the season. There's no gotcha coming here, Mike.
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I promise. I thought he maybe lost start of the week and he had to say nice things about me like this is punishment.
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This is not the punishment. No.
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We'll get into who wants sort of later on this week, that's for sure. But what I will tell you is that I do not envy the job that you have at the beginning of the season. I can only imagine how tricky projections are as well because you're trying to process like we are trying to process overreactions versus not overreactions. You have to actually quantify them. So we're going to have a little bit more along the lines of overreactions on today's show. Plus some bounce back candidates which I think kind of tie into those overreactions and rankings in week two. They can be mousetraps, right? Because there are guys who ball out in week one and you're like, oh my God, we're going all in. Then there are guys who struggle in week one and you're like, that guy's a bum. Maybe I should have never drafted him in the first place. We're going to dive into a lot of the content that covers all of that, but seriously, Mike grinds like nobody else at this company to make the fantasy app go.
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It's true.
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Welcome.
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Good. Good way to come back. Way to.
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Great.
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Great.
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Way to start the show.
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I feel welcome, excited and rejuvenated. My back feels great now. Hey.
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Hey.
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I love that feeling loose. Good. It might. It could be the Advil. It could be fields and kind words. Well, it's hard to say.
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Before we get into the rankings reaction. I just want to talk really quickly. There was some breaking news. News last night. Pretty serious, actually. I'm sure that you guys saw this as well, but major theft happened in the NFL. I don't know if you saw that.
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Oh, no.
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The Green Bay packers had over $13 million stolen from them by Christian Watson and his agent. I do not understand. Why did you pay this guy $13 million?
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All right.
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Was I the only one that saw that? And I was like, what's going on here? Why are you giving this guy that much money?
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I was a little. I was a little surprised by it, but the guy is talented. I mean, I think that's it. I mean, they're just investing in. We think this guy will stay healthy because he's the real deal. He's a good player.
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It's a lot of money.
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Not totally surprised. I'm not going to lie. I'll give you an example of a player that this past offseason signed for one year and $10 million. A wide receiver.
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Two of them, actually. Good. Yeah. Good call.
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Tutu Atwell and Diami Brown.
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Yeah.
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Okay. All right.
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Would you say that either of those players is definitively better than Christian Watson?
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No chance.
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Oh, no, no. Come on. It's not even close.
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As disappointing as Christian Watson has been for stretches of his career, clearly talented. He also, yeah, he does have some real field stretching ability. He's plays an important role in that offense. It's getting ahead of the curve. You can spread it out over two years as opposed to one for cap purposes.
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Sure.
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And it's also a hedge. Like if he comes back and he balls out and he has eight touchdowns in the final 13 games of the season, Christian Wata would make more than $13 million. It's an interesting roll of the dice by the packers, but they've made comparable rolls of the dice in recent years. One of which was. Remember they declined Jordan Love's fifth year option.
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I do remember that.
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Gave him a different restructured deal. That one clearly worked out. So it's a bet by Green Bay based off their recent track record. I'm giving Goody their GM Brian Gooniekinst the benefit of the doubt. But man, I did not know where you were going with it. I was like a local stop and shop robbed in Bristol.
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A big. When I saw that breaking news from Adam Schefter, I was like, that's just a lot of money for, for Christian Watson.
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You're talking about Tank Bigsby or something. I had no idea where you, what you were doing there.
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Well, let's dive into some rankings reaction here. In week two fields, you already kind of, you know, like set the table for us. Week two, there's still a lot of question marks. We're trying to figure out where we really believe on guys. Where's the fool's gold? Where's the real gold? So I'm going to start with you. We're each going to bring a couple of guys to the table. We're just talking Rankin's reaction, either positive or negative in either direction. Either direction. Who was someone that gave you a reaction while you were doing your rankings?
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Great producer Christina said to us, just basically like, give me names of guys that made you feel something.
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Yep.
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She wasn't even declarative of like, if they make you feel good, bad, something in between. A pinch of anxiety was associated with my ranking of Baker Mayfield.
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Baker's good.
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He's really good. But he threw for under 200 yards in week one against a Falcons defense that I think is an inferior total defense and an inferior pass rush to the defensive phase. This upcoming weekend, the Houston Texans. Now Matthew Stafford, who I don't know about underrated. I feel like every time someone uses the word underrated or overrated, I'm like, no, I think everybody kind of talks about that guy about as much as he should. I do think the brilliance of Matthew Stafford could be appreciated a touch more because he was really, really impressive on Sunday. He also faced a lot of pressure. You know why? The Texans are the real deal in terms of rushing the quarterback. The Bucs not afraid to push the football down the field. Harder to do so against this defense. Again, under 200 passing yards. He had three passing touchdowns in week one did Baker Mayfield. So there was a lot of good to go along with the pedestrian passing numbers. I want to have Baker jammed inside my top 10 every single week. I miss quarterback 15 this week. So lower than. Not just the top 10, but I think lower than each of you guys. And consensus.
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I agree.
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Yeah. So quarterback is one of those positions where when I do go, you know, tweak everything and process week one results and then I refresh everything. Quarterback ends up kind of scrambled around. Like we have those core guys at the top. But as we've talked about in the off season, once you get into the middle of the QB ones all the way to like almost QB20, maybe even a little further, when you get into like Michael Pennix and Bryce Young and Aaron Rodgers at four touchdowns, then you think about the matchups in Week 2, who they're playing. Those guys can go far in the rank. They bounce around a lot, which I'll get to with my guy here in a second. But Mayfield's one of those guys that fell kind of like the mid range, like, like quarterback 14, 15. And you're like, man, we drafted him as like QB7 as be a starter and he already, we're talking about benching him. So there's a, there's a gigantic tier of streamable quarterbacks this year. And it's, it's after like the first.
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Five when we, we talk about this because I have missed quarterback 12. I think Mike, you are close to.
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Or in line at 11. 11, but I could go 17. It's close, but just, just to be.
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Able to state the obvious, even though we have them ranked there, I'm not going to drop him. To be able to go out and get a streaming quarterback, he would just be like, would you potentially bench him or would you still, if you drafted Baker Mayfield, even though we have him ranked lower, I probably am still going to start him. Rather than go out and use a roster spot on a second quarterback here in week two, I just, I'm going to lower my expectations.
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I've got a roster where I have Baker. It's a six point passing touchdown league. So Baker. And there's some upside with yardage. So Baker fits pretty well in this league. But JJ McCarthy is my backup quarterback as of right now. I'm still going to play Baker, but like JJ would be somebody that if you really believe what happened in the fourth quarter is a sign of an explosion that is forthcoming for J.J. mcCarthy, you'd say, all right, J.J. but I think the most obvious added quarterback after week one was Daniel Jones. He draws the Broncos this weekend. So to me, looking at my rankings, especially with the uncertainty surrounding Brock Purdy. Yeah, there's not a quarterback who is Normally at quarterback 15. Who this week is at quarterback seven.
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Yeah, there. And again, that kind of speaks to all of these options at quarterback. Because before I mentioned this. Is anyone going to talk about Michael Pennock?
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No, no, go for it.
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Yeah, same kind of thing, right? He was so impressed week one I picked no, but I picked him up in a few leagues. But he goes to Minnesota this week and I know they weren't great last week, but that's a really good.
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They heated up in a hurry.
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It's like, man, I don't want to start him either. But anyway, my guy. Should I go?
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Yeah, give me your reaction.
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Mine is Daniel Jones. Yeah. Because we're talking about it.
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Sorry for even mentioning him.
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Oh, no, no, that's okay. Yeah, Daniel Jones, obviously super impressive in week one at the two rushing touchdowns through one as well. We kind of saw that coming. You know, we talked about him on FF now in the pod last week as a streaming option and week one against Miami defense. But the question is, you know, the Colts team, I think quarterback aside, is very good. I'm not surprised that they won. That was a gigantic margin. So maybe not by that much, but I'm not surprised they won the game. He's a good team around him. So it's possible with his rushing ability he could sustain fringe RB1 numbers. The question is he's going in, you know, he's playing Denver this week they're playing the Broncos. It's a very tough matchup. They'll have the fewest fantasy points to the opposing quarterback. Week one, I know was Cam Ward in his first NFL game, but they were outstanding last year against quarterbacks. And also, I don't want to get tricked by Daniel Jones again because we have seen this before. We talked about this last year. 18 plus fantasy points in four games, average eight and a half points in the other six. The year before, remember in week two he had a 30 point game and we were like, okay, you know, the year before he was pretty good. Maybe it's still going to happen. He averaged. He was under nine points the next four games and got benched. So we have seen this from Daniel Jones before. I'm still a little bit nervous. Once more pressure is on him. So against Denver this week, even if you added him, not a streamable option.
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I feel the same way.
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Bench option.
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I think we all have him outside our top 20 correct quarterback spot.
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So this is not the week that Denver defense.
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It's not a joke.
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Nasty like I thought Cam Morton actually played really well in week one and he Was let down by several pass catchers who just couldn't corral the football. There was a big play to Ella Ao Manor, who by the way, I'm feeling good about him as a long shot. After week one, 25% target share could have been an even bigger day if the play of the Titans didn't challenge. They had challenged. He got the elbow down and they didn't challenge it. Which has caused some controversy as Brian Callahan seemingly did not know the rule during the game, which is a tough one. Faux paper head coach.
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Yep.
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Neither here nor there. But that Broncos events was stifling for the most part against Tennessee. So who's your guy?
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Well, I'm going to kind of piggyback off of Mike's Daniel Jones conversation because last week he was unbelievable. But it's because he played the Miami Dolphins. And this week Drake May draws the Miami Dolphins. And this is one of the ones that was tough. Part of what I was trying to figure out is how high is too high for me with Drake May this week. He was quarterback 18 last week. Right. But he threw the ball for 287 passing yards. He didn't have Stefan Diggs. He was very much on a snap count. He played half the snap. So he was limited. I expect Diggs to be more involved. I'm not sure he's going to be a full time player right out the gate here in week two, but I do think he will get more involved.
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That number should just grow. Like by the middle of the season you'd expect Von Diggs to play every snap.
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Yep.
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I did expect more when they played the Raiders defense. I thought it was going to be a better situation. But I'm going to gonna. I'm gonna continue to lean into the idea that when someone plays the Miami Dolphins until I see otherwise. I'm probably gonna play people that play this Dolphins defense. And so good strategy. Yeah, I think everyone that is going up against Miami right now, until I see otherwise, I'm gonna trust it. I have Drake May inside my top 10 even I have him at quarterback 7.
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I've got him at quarterback 10. Mike's at 12. Here's the deal with Drake May though. As far as like being a weekly fantasy starter until we start to see more rushing, rushing ability, rushing, period. Yeah, I have to go back and double check this, but I'm almost certain zero design runs from Drake May in week one. It's all we're asking for. We're asking for three a game. Three a game could equal 20 yards, 20 yards equals two fantasy points. I think it breeds confidence into the player as well. Between or until we see consistent rushing from Drake May because of the fact that this pass catching group is just not good. And he to me like at least in week one was far too inaccurate. Like he's not going to be a weekly fantasy starter.
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You don't think so?
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I just don't think he's not nearly prolific enough as a passer.
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I match up, he's just gonna be one of these matchup dependent streaming guys.
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This is one of those matchups that I am willing to take a shot on if I had to.
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Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. Like this is until, like until we have.
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We need to see more from Drake.
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Magus if they are playing. I'm just trying to think of a team that we consider kind of like if they're playing the Washington Commanders. Not a defense that we think is a lead. A lead against quarterbacks, but not a bad defense either. I would not be starting Drake May until we see from the Patriots that he is going to run the football. He threw the ball 46 times in a week.
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46 times. Only four carries. I would love to see more.
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I think the carries were all designed runs. Excuse me, not designed runs. So I need to see more of that.
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Can I ask really quickly? It sounds like Storm Duck is going to be out. Do they even have any other cornerbacks on this Dolphins roster?
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I mean technically.
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Technically, yes.
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Jones, Russell Douglas, Jason Marshall. That's going to be out there.
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You know what Storm Duck's real name is by any chance?
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Storm Duck, Maybe Hurricane.
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His real name is Storm Duck.
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Yeah.
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Oh, that's his name. His mother named him Storm. Yes. That is 100%.
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I have a rule. I have a lot. I have a 38 year old rule that I have been abiding by which is I don't make fun of people's names. My name is Field.
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A lot of flack for it as.
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A kid so I don't like. I don't have much of a leg to stand on when it's like that's a weird name. It's like you're named after a large patch of grass. So you know, I tend to not throw stones in the name department also.
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It's an awesome name. I love it. My favorite name, Storm Duck. Making fun of me? Yeah.
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Storm Duck.
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It's an awesome name.
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Storm Duck.
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Yeah.
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Great name.
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That is an elite name. That's a tier one name for sure. Came from the Bold and the Beautiful, from Soap Opera. That's where his mom was a big fan of.
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Oh really?
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And so there was a character on there.
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You did research on this?
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Yeah, of course I did.
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Guys, you know the game Two Truths and a Lie?
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Yeah.
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Like if you were just playing a mini game of Two Truths and a Lie, I would have been totally stumped. Like for all I know his name is actually Jeremy and his mom like Storm was like a nickname that his, his neighbor gave him at 5 and it just kind of stuck.
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My favorite is Juju Smith Schuster, whose name is John Smith.
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Is it really? I did not. That's the thing I did not realize. Well, we all just brought a quarterback to the table Field. Before you decide to give another player here, I just want to shout out. Our buddy Eric Moody is hanging out in chat. If you have any thoughts on the things we are talking about or any questions, make sure you hit up Eric moody in our YouTube chat. Especially if you have a quarterback or a running back or a wide receiver that you guys have questions on. We're going to try to get to a mailbag at the end of the show. So Field, what's your next ranking reaction?
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Yeah, Breeze hall, man. Oh boy. I just, I was so. There were two important things that happened on Sunday. One was surprising to me, one should not have been. But after last year, I'm not going to lie, it was a little bit surprising. One was the domination of the workload for Breece hall, especially with braille and out in the second half being a virtual non factor. And for all the hype about Isaiah Davis, what do you have? Two carries in week one. Two. So Isaiah Davis clearly cast aside is like only going to be utilized when somebody needs a breather. Basically Braylon Allen playing a much smaller role than Breece Hall. So that part was surprising given some of the preseason rhetoric. But the part that was surprising, I'll admit. But it shouldn't be based off what we saw two years ago. Breeze hall look awesome. He looked awesome. This guy is so talented. Oh my God. There's a reason why he went like 34th overall a few years ago. Remember he was the jets almost fourth first round pick that year. They were like we would have traded into the first to get him if we needed to. He is such a talent, man. Like he is one of those guys that is going to, he could take over a game that's so good of a, of a talent. Breeze hall is super explosive, great on perimeter runs, obviously a huge factor in the passing game as well. So he has moved right back up to RB17 for me, the reason why it's not higher for Breeze Hall I think is pretty obvious. Two things. One, you have a passing quarterback. That means that they're not a running quarterback. They're not going to throw the ball as frequently to running backs too. And more importantly and obviously is that how many rushing touchdowns of Breeze hall have in week one zero? How many did Justin Fields have?
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Two.
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And Braylon Allen got one.
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Yes.
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So he's going to be potentially vultured from multiple different people in his own offense. So stoked about Breeze Hall, I had minimal shares of Breece hall other than keeper leagues. And one of those leagues is a league in which it's a salary league as well. And I made Breece, I extended him on a fairly robust deal. Like around this time last year when everything was looking up, it was kind of a get ahead of the curve like Christian Watson deal. And for the entire off season I was regretting it. I'm not sure that I am totally now, but it feels a whole lot better now compared to where it was at this time a month ago.
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And also I'll add on this, he played 36 naps. The other two running backs combined for 27. So it wasn't a massive gap. And there could have been a little bit of a hot hand element. What if Frail and Alan rips off a 40 yard run or something? I mean it could be that gap could certainly get closer. Last thing, good start. But they probably. That was a bizarre game though. That was a. That was a bizarre game. Like all. That's. That's a. The larger question is like in the jets offense keep up at this pace if you think no, they're going to come back to earth. Remember who was the hottest offense in the NFL through two weeks last year?
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Believe it or not, I am skeptical that Justin Fields would be like one of the three most efficient passers this NFL season. Exactly.
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But from Justin Fields perspective alone, do you think that after what you saw with him utilizing his legs, he's going to go back up to being a potential top 12 quarterback for you until you see otherwise.
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Are you still a little.
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Has been like my thought with Justin was coming into the season is like Justin is going to have a month where he carries your team.
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Yeah.
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Then he's going to start to have some games where it's like how did Justin Field score 11 fantasy points? Oh, he only ran for 42 yards and he had zero passing touchdowns. Zero rushing touchdowns and one interception.
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174 yards or something like that.
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Yeah, exactly. So all Right.
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Mike, what about you? Give us your next ranking reaction.
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Next up for me is. I think it is.
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You got so many names that you're bringing.
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It is so many, so many positive vibes here on Devonnie Chan. I'm very high on him this week. I think I'm by consensus easily.
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This is surprising to me.
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I could have went. I almost feel like I go as high as two here. I mean, he is he highest two. I think I could go super high. Lots of reasons here. Only seven carries last week, but at 55 yards. So the efficiency was still fantastic last week. Caught a touchdown again, four targets. Caught three.
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Garbage touchdown, touchdown.
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It was garbage time. But check this out though.
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Checking to make.
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Checking it out is 72%. Snapshare was the third highest of his career, 70% of the carries. And that was despite sitting out the final nine plays of the game. When two was on the field. He played 89% of the snaps, 33 of 37. So he may have gotten a late touchdown in that game, but he also didn't play at the end of the game because it was, it was the blowout loss. I feel like he's just picking up where he left off last year and there was so little Ollie Gordon in this game. Jalen Wright's obviously not there. I mean, this week against the Matrix he might play 90% of the snaps and I would expect it to be a more competitive game after New England just lost at home to the Raiders. The the Dolphins could legitimately bounce back this week. It could be a bounce back game. They win and then it's all an overreaction to what happened last week. I mean, I don't actually think it's an overreaction. There's a lot of problems there, but they can get back on track. And hn is I feel really good.
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About this situation, like for this last game where you felt like he was out there so much because they're clearly in passing downs and Ali Gordon is not their passing down.
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That was right out of the gate though. That was right out of the gate. He was playing. I mean he played 33 out of 37 snaps. So when the game was still, when the game was competitive, no one else was even on the field. It was all him. And I don't know if that's going to change.
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RB 11 for me, RB 7 for Daniel, RB 4 for Mike.
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Yeah, high on him. That is high. Mike, he was one of again one of the guys that popped out as super high in the.
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Is that the only positive vibe Coming out of Miami right now as Devon.
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Yeah, I mean, weather's pretty good.
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The club, I mean, they are going to run the offense through him. I mean, and that's what we expected coming into the season, but it was even more so. Like, we thought maybe Ollie Gordon might get a chunk of the carries. And that was again, I know they didn't run it a lot, but that was not even close to the case. It was all a channel game.
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I just wanna garbage, you know, I know that we talked about Mike positively to begin the show. Oh, I wanna do it again.
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Okay.
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I like Mike's call of Tyree Kill getting traded.
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I do too like that a lot. Yeah, I think it's happening. Looking good. Yep. Might have been soon.
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It could be soon. Got the Steelers circled. I've got the Chiefs monitored. The Broncos, I'm not feeling quite as.
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Bullish on that Was more of a fun landing spot in the offseason.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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We'll see. I mean, it's not like they got much out of their other receivers. They barely use Marvin Mims again. Troy Franklin was running ahead of him.
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40 attempts.
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I'm not going to. I'm not going to put it. You know, And Bo Nix, he might be a topic for another day this week because he was not too spectacular in the open. So they might. They might need help.
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Those three turnovers for Bo really, really hurt.
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But bottom line is agreed. Yeah.
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Nice. All right.
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I have another player that I was wondering to myself, how high is too high for this guy? And it's rookie Ameca Abuka taking on the Texans this week. This the first of two Monday Night Football games. Found the end zone twice in week one. That's not going to happen most weeks. Like, I am very aware that there was a big part of that, but he had more snaps and routes than old Mike Evans, which I think is positive in this offense. I'm sorry, did I say that out loud? I mean, say in my head, but I really think a part of this thing for me is vibes coming out of training camp were super high. They love a Mecca Abuka. And I think you saw especially in that second touchdown. Defenses are going to have more. They're going to spend more of their time thinking about superstar Mike Evans and making sure they bracket him than I think they do, AKA Abuka. You disagree with that?
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I'm not so sure on that one anymore.
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You think that now, like, cat's out of the bag and, like, we've got to be careful with this young Kid think so.
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I really do. He was the star of training camp. We talked about him for a month straight. That's, that's going to shift pretty quickly.
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Four for 67 and two touchdowns on six targets. Mike, Evan had eight targets. So he had, you know, a few more opportunities. Absolutely. But they were both on the field a ton. They were clearly wide receiver, 1 and 2 secondary.
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It's a, it's one of the best secondary you'll see also.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I, we'll get to this later this week, but Derek Stingley likely to shadow Mike Evans in this game. But that's why I like the other side. Yeah. Yeah. Petri. In the, in the slot receivers you.
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Like against the Texans are the ones that catch a million screens. Like Pukuna. Devonte Adams had 4 for 51 this past weekend. Like if either or both of those bucks receivers go for that this week won't surprise me a bit.
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Which one of these guys do you think would be a heavier screen guy? Would it be Mike Evans or would be definitely.
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Yeah, yeah. But they have to get him the ball more too because they do only have a 20% target, the same number of targets and fewer air yards.
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And Sterling Shepherd.
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Yeah.
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So I didn't love all the Sterling shepherd usage. I'm pumped for him to be able to be back and now he was one of the guys that we always perennially, perennially root for because you want to be able to see him do well.
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I have to talk to Joe Fornbach as on FF now. It was like if they throw it a ton of times to Sterling Shepherd, I'm coming after you.
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I'm going to. They did, they did throw, they threw it too much, sister. Lean Shepard.
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It's his fault. Yeah.
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All right, we're going to dive into. Oh, no. You know what? I think you got one more.
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I do, yes.
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Why don't you give us one more?
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Take us into sort of our confidence for bounce back candidates. Before we get there though, I did want to note on the heels of Daniel mentioning that we have two games on Monday Night Football around this time of the year, like the beginning of September. I've got a couch that's in front of the best TV in my house that it's like a little divot starts to form throughout the month of September because I'm spending so much time sitting there or laying down there and I've already started to feel just a little bit like a little divot after Monday night because I will fall asleep at some point during the second game, I'm just announcing that the game kicks off at 10pm 10pm first game starts at.
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7, second game starts at 10.
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Randall A Swiss week. Please, please, please.
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I know it's. Oh my God, please. I will find my way back up before the end of the game. But there's a very decent chance that at some point in the second quarter, like all of a sudden I'm just, oh, where'd you go there for 15 minutes? That divot though, if they're out, if you people are out there who have a couch, you know what I'm talking about. That divot is just such an important part of your life during this time of the year. Like, it's such an integral thing. Everybody has their spots. Nobody changes it up. Except for when your team is playing like booty and you start to like.
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Move to different parts of the game.
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I got to get up and walk around.
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It's definitely my fault. I have to like, you know, take the controller, change the channel, go back to the game. Like, there are a lot of ways in which of course you can absolutely control the outcome of sports.
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That divot becomes like an old friend during football season.
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I'm telling you, man, it's like it is my favorite spot. My three year old also loves it when she's doing whatever she's doing during the day. So thankfully she goes to bed before most night football games take place. But it is my divot for the next four months.
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So is the divot your ranking reaction? How high is the divot ranked?
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Yeah, that's the player divot's number one. My last player is Nico Collins.
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Oh.
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Who I have as wide receiver eight this week. So after week one, which in which Nico Collins has a total of three catches on five targets, a lot of people, myself included, are feeling very disappointed. A handful of Texans saw a handful of targets in this game. They were run heavy. They were also under siege. They were under siege by this Rams defensive front that has a case to be the best in the NFL, at least on the, you know, short list as best defensive front in the league. And by the way, the Texans offensive line, as we talked about all off season, is a major, major question mark. Both of those units lived up to expectation in week one. For better in the Rams case, for worse in the Texans case. It's inexcusable though. Brian Thomas Jr. I'm not going to say that it's. We'll talk about him in a little bit. But with Nico, it's so clear that he is by far the best player you have on your offense and on top of that you had no running game in Week 1. The offense must run through Nico Collins. It must or else this team who has legitimate division winning title aspirations, they've won it in back to back season and I think Views itself is at least in the same zip code as Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore, they have no chance if Neil Collins is not dominating. None whatsoever. Zip zero, zilt not it doesn't matter.
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It'll be better this week.
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It'll be better. And so my confidence in Nico Collins is reflected in the fact that I have him as my 8th ranked wide receiver. So I'm going with an 8 for my confidence level of Nico Collins. But I think that really the most important question that people are asking going into this week is of the extremes that took place last week, which are real and which are fake. GNC knows that you're not always feeling it at the gym, but don't get down, get lit and get more out of every workout. Beyond Raw lit is a clinically dosed pre workout that flips the switch and gives you more energy, focus, intensity and pumps the perfect combo for a killer workout. Plus it's got incredible flavors and thousands of five star reviews so you know it's good. Pick it up at gnc stores or gnc.com from kickoff to cashout. ESPN BET has the tools you need.
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Yep.
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So I'll kick things off. Nico was kind of the. He was the segue catalyst to get us here. But here, you can go first. How many of you have. You have four or three?
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I got four.
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Okay, good. How many do you have, Mike? Zero.
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Mike has zero. Mike has a separate segment.
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Mike is grading later. Yes, but you're sort of grading.
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Yeah.
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All right, so we're gonna rip through this one. My first one is going to be Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow was not good in week one. Only 23 pass attempts against the Browns. I'm expecting a much better passing attack at home against the Jacksonville Jaguars.
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And since he knows that they have of offense. Sorry, that was bad.
A
That's a great question. I don't know how many yards. That's disgusting.
C
How's that possible?
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That's disgusting. With Chase Brown and Jamar Chase and T. Higgins and Joe Burrow. That's not. That's not possible. I know. Since he is known as being slow starters. I'm not panicking at all. My confidence meter on Joe Burrow is still a 10.
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Okay. 10.
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Yep.
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Mine is Brian Thomas Jr. I have my confidence level. You know, he's wide receiver nine for me. Which implies a very high level of confidence. The big question mark that has not yet been answered. In fairness, it's a bit of a small sample size. Is the rapport he has or perhaps lacks with Trevor Lawrence.
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Yeah.
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Is it real? Is it not? We will see the numbers, as we discussed on yesterday's show, paint a less than positive picture, but we shall see the other reason why, I think, like, the reason why my confidence is lower in Brian Thomas Jr. By a little bit than Nico Collins is. Like, if you told us that the passing offense just runs through Travis Hunter, now you'd be like, oh, okay, the guy who went number two overall. That makes sense.
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Yeah.
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Or who had 15 receiving touchdowns and won the Heisman Trophy last year. Or they can actually run the football, which Houston cannot do. So my confidence level is a seven, but I started off with a confidence level like a five.
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Yeah.
A
I need him not to just be a field stretcher and have Travis Hunter take over as like, the number one in that offense.
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Or we need Mac Jones to go back.
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Yeah. A return of the Mac. How about we get some of that?
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We might see him this week, actually.
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Yeah, we will. That's right.
A
All right, My next one is Jamar Chase. This follows right along with Joe Burrow. All the things that I said about Joe Burrow, I feel about Jamar Chase. He's the best wide receiver in the game. My confidence meter is a 10. Literally like we just started with Nico Collins, Brian Thomas Jr. And Jamar Chase. Three of the best wide receivers in the NFL. They're all top 10 for us and they just were so bad in week one.
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I do AJ Brown next, right.
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Honestly it feels like. Anyways. All right, you go to the next one.
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Next one for me is Isaiah Pacheco is now outside my top 30 for running backs. My confidence level is a three. I believe the Chiefs should be running him more three. But he played 51% of the snaps in week one. We saw too much of Kareem Hunt handedly five carries for Isaiah Pacheco. Now they were playing from behind for a lot of that game. That does contribute to it. But Pacheco, I kept thinking like maybe this is just the boring like going to have 15 carries a game guy. After week one I'm feeling far less confident in that. Yeah.
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And the seventh round rookie Burchard Smith was playing early in that game too. Didn't end up with many snaps but he was involved as well. So they haven't figured out what they want to do there. Pacheco did not really move the needle. So that's a tough one. Agreed.
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Yeah. I did not love that confidence level. You said is a three on Pacheco.
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Three.
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Yes, three.
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That's fair.
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That's. Yeah.
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They seem like a team that could be in the running back market.
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All right. My next one is going to be someone that might spoiled for the entire audience. But it's A.J. brown. This is the devil you dance with though when you roster AJ Brown. He's not necessarily boom bust like some of these other wide receivers but he is going to have some situations on the lowest passing or one of the lowest passing offenses in the NFL where he just has a dud week. I think that was week one. I think he gets back on track. Still not concerned. My confidence meter is a nine.
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We talked about this last week. Dallas ran the more zone than anyone in the NFL last season. That was clearly strategic. This week they're play. They play the Chiefs. Trent McDuffie shattered him in the Super Bowl. I would expect the same deployment here. Brown scored in that game. Also the Chiefs lied the most fantasy points to receivers in week one playing the Chargers. So I think he bounces back.
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Did you see that the Cowboys were the Only team to not run any of sort single snap of man coverage in week one.
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Yeah, our. Our data was slightly different than that. But it's close. Close enough. Yeah. Our game charters, but yeah, I think there is a little bit of mixed coverage. I remember them talking about that in the broadcast as well. But nonetheless, yes.
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Next up for me is Tyree Kill, who we talked about earlier. Maybe he'll be a trade candidate. My confidence is a four. I have him as wide receiver 19.
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I'm a. I'm way lower.
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Yeah, you are. So talking through it.
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Yeah.
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I don't think Christian Gonzalez will play. It's not like a factor for me.
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Yeah. I'm just worried. I. I just moved the offense down. And the. Except for. Except for HN is once you get into that range where you start at like, I don't know, 18, all the way down to like 40, there's a lot of similar. And there was guys I just couldn't justify starting, like, starting him over. Right. Even guys like Roma, Dunes A. Travis Hunter, Judy Sutton. I mean, Pierce, all those guys. I'm like, if I'm making that call, setting my lineup, I'm going to go that direction. I know. I know what his ceiling is, and I do think they'll be a little better. Also, if Christian Gonzalez returns this week, which is iffy, I don't think he'll.
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Shadow Tyreek hasn't practiced in over a month. It seems unlucky. Come back to practice and play that same week. Here's the only thing I'll say about Tyree Kill. He looked good in week one. Like, it's not like Tyree Kill. There are some players that I do have question marks. Like, we could have a long conversation about Cooper cup. And like, maybe it's just onto a new phase, Right? Maybe. Maybe early, but maybe. Tyree Kill looked his usual explosive self. The problem was he also was explosive on the sidelines when he yelled at his head coach, which makes me think that, like, this could be a serious house of cards.
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That's part of the analysis here, too.
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Confidence.
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It's like almost like Russell Wilson. Would you ever stream him knowing that he could have benched at any time?
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No. Of course.
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Good.
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Highest ranking for tyree kill at ESPN fantasy is wide receiver 16. Lowest is wide receiver 31. So there's a big gap between where we're all looking at it. My last one, I'm just going to stick with this Bengals theme that I've been running with. Has got to be T. Higgins. This entire offense was awful Tiggins. All the said same things that I said about Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, I feel, but to a slightly lesser extent. But I knew that coming into draft season there's a reason why T. Higgins wasn't being drafted as a top 10 tight end. I think you said that earlier this year. Wide receiver.
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Sorry, not a top 10 tight end either.
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No, honestly, he probably would be a.
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Top 10 tight end if he was a tight end right now. But he's got the same boom, bust kind of capabilities that you see from A.J. brown. But I don't think that he's going to have quite as big of a ceiling because he's the wide receiver too in that offense. But not a lot has changed. It's just other than a bad week one, my confidence meter on him is still an eight.
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By the way.
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Six snaps for Travis Hunter on defense last week on the perimeter. So he'll see a little Chase and Higgins perhaps in this game. Maybe that'd be Fun to watch one on one.
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Terry McLaren's my last one here. My confidence level is a six in McLaurin. Debo Samuel just looked good as well. McLaren has had a little bit of this, like for a player who is so good and was rewarded with the contract this off season. We also know like Derek McClaurin's not this super high volume wide receiver.
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Nope.
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Between 77 and I believe 84 catches in each of the past five seasons. This isn't a 100 catch per season guy. And do the math, by the way, 17 games, six catches is just over 100 catches catches per season. So he's like a five, like five, four and a half to five catch per game kind of guy. He had just two in week one. Where he really flipped the switch last year was all of the touchdowns. He had 13 after being under 10 in every season prior to that. But I'm a little nervous because the matchup is daunting. But Jaden Daniels is just that good, so he's still wide receiver.
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20 for me and we'll talk about that. That's a Thursday Night Football game.
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This it is.
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Commanders. Yeah.
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Packers open with two games at home.
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Lucky Green Bay. As if they needed it. All right, that's going to move us on to Mike Clay. Surprise.
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I probably have no idea what's coming, right?
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Yeah, it's all it says on my sheet.
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So you know, week. Yeah, five annoying things from week one. You're seeing it on the screen.
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Oh, nice.
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I called this cool, cool, cool, cool.
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Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, okay. All right. Love that.
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You ever seen Brooklyn Nine nine Shout Out?
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Oh, I thought that was from is. I guess I assumed that was different. I thought that was from Community.
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No, no, no, that's right. That's Jake Baralta. That's his line all the time. And it's when you're just like, something bad happened and you're just trying to like, keep your head up and there, you know, there was obviously week one. This happens a lot where we're like, what? Like, what are they doing? What are they. What are they doing? Are they really using that? And there's like a perfect place to start this in that case, which is Kenneth Gainwell.
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Yeah, he's one of the guys that was on my list.
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You serious? Kenneth Gainwell? That was me.
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Your list? You had no idea what's coming?
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He was one of my ranking reactions players that, like, didn't make the cut.
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I was going to say I was like, did you guys. Are you guys in cahoots?
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No, no, no, no. But we. We submitted a bunch of names for our ranking reactions and Ken Gainwell or Ken. Excuse me, that was just a big one.
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Kenneth Gainwell. Ken. Either way, mad at people named Kenneth right now. And it's a little foreshadowing here. So I couldn't believe it if somebody was high on Jalen Warren. Just watching Kenny Gainwell get all those snaps and touches early in that game was extremely frustrating. 28 snaps in the game for Gainwell. 7 carries, 4 targets. Warren, 11 carries, 2 targets. Gainwell played 3 more snaps than Warren, who did catch a touchdown, and that bailed you out, but that was rough.
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I'm here to maybe be the voice of reason to help you out, which is normally your job. To all of us.
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That's your job today.
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Okay, well, it's rarely my job, but I'll try one time. I think it's actually an indication that the Steelers really want Jalen Warren to be their lead back and that Kenneth Gainwell is the change of pace back when you're playing in high scoring, fast paced play from behind games, which was the case for the Pittsburgh Steelers this past week. Very much to my surprise. I spent much of the past two months on various shows talking about how this is a championship level defense and to me, an offense with a very obvious ceiling, one that is not good enough to beat Kansas City, Baltimore, Buffalo in January when it matters the most. And it was the exact opposite in week one until like the last play of the game when they made a huge stop to prevent the jets from winning. So I'm going to go with this actually is a good thing because it means that Jalen Warren is more likely on games or in games in which they're not, you know, trailing by seven to ten points to carry the rock 15 to 18 times a game.
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Maybe, maybe. I thought it, maybe it was an indication that they want Caleb Johnson to take this Kenneth Gainwell role and he, at some point he'll be in a committee with Warren. I think the reason I was optimistic is that Gainwell had 23 yards and 10 touches and Warren has a, has a history of being an effective rusher.
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So I would just say this. I mean, first of all, I'm right. But second of all, I want to congratulate each of you for having more total yards in week one. Thank you. Caleb Johnson.
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Yeah, dude, thank you. I appreciate it. Seriously.
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Negative two.
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Yeah, yeah. Not a good start. But we weren't. Are not shocked that he didn't play.
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He's suspicious.
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Can I ask you guys because there's a lot of people that drafted Caleb Johnson probably higher than what they wish they had done at this point.
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Can he be dropped?
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But if you use this value of a draft pick because you thought Caleb Johnson at some point is going to be there, I don't think you're at the. I can drop him yet. I think you still have to ride the, the wagon just a little bit.
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Mike Clay is confused.
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There are two things here. I will say. Daniel is that. But okay, so if you, if you have Xavier Worthy and who else is a notable injury from week one? Brock Purdy and George Kittle.
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George Kittle.
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You have two of those three guys. You probably do need to make a roster move. And Caleb Johnson is. Drop a bull to me. But it's such a bad waiver wire week this week. You're right, it is that in 10 team leagues. There were a lot of 10 team leagues that I was just like, no, I'm good.
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Yeah.
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You know, like I'm just going to. Maybe I'll stream my defense. That's it.
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Yeah. Pick up the Rams. Yeah, exactly.
C
Yes, exactly.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I think that he's. Look, there's a laundry list of these guys. That's why we mentioned so many of them. But he's an end of roster stash because I think at some point you took this guy in the third round. The goal is for him to replace Kenneth Gainwell in this offense. At some point, I would imagine it should. You didn't bring Gainwell in To be featured to this extent. So you do Warren and Caleb Johnson at some point. Yeah. All right. Next one for me again. Another Kenneth. Kenneth. Kenneth Walker. Yeah. Infuriate again. We did talk about this. We did say there's a chance this is a committee or Charbonnet even ahead early in the season because Walker has missed so much time. But 10 carries, three targets and 20 snaps. Charbonnet, 12 carries, was not targeted, but out snapped him 29 to 20. Also ran one more pass route than Ken Walker, despite the fact that Walker had more targets. If you're thinking well, Walker probably played well, as he often does, he'll take the job back. He did not. He had 24 yards on 10 on 13 touches in the game. Charbonneau 47 yards in the touchdown, 12 touches. They played the Steelers this week. I know they struggled last week. Don't expect that to be better going forward. Guys, I have Walker ranked 32nd. Charbonnet 36 this week. I don't want to start either one for now. Yep.
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We talked about this on Monday. That like this is the worst spot for a backfield to be in. Two guys playing enough to cannibalize the value of each other, but neither one of them having any fantasy value.
B
Nope.
C
16.
B
League gotta be better. Yeah. If you want to be. If you want to be Gibbs and Montgomery, you have to be better offense. And they're not there yet. I was.
A
I was surprised that Charbonnet out snapped Ken walker in week one and then.
C
Walker 30 to 21 for the snaps.
B
Right?
A
Yeah, it was. It was actually more substantial than I thought it was going to be. But Ken Walker clearly still the pass catching guy.
C
I got it.
B
Well, about even in routes. Walker and more targets. Okay.
A
And Charbonnet is the guy that got the goal line carries.
C
So Kenneth Walker III to the Chiefs for a 5th round pick. Who says no?
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Ooh, not me. I like it.
A
The Denver Broncos. The Los Angeles Chargers.
B
That's a good call. I like that one a lot.
C
I'm buying your risk.
B
They should trade for. Maybe the. Maybe the Chiefs will just panic and trade for Tyreek and Ken Walker and.
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Just, you know what you need?
B
No.
C
For this to happen. What we need. What we. We. I'm sorry, Chiefs fan. I don't make this. This is going to come across like I'm rooting for them to not win. I'm simply speaking about how we make a Kenneth Walker III to a much better destination come to life.
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Yeah.
C
The Chiefs lose this weekend against Mike's Eagles 0 2. They play the Giants next weekend. They're probably going to take care of business there.
B
Yeah.
C
Then the Ravens in week four.
B
So if they're 1 and 3, 1.
C
And 3, and if the Chargers start 3 and 1 or the Broncos start 3 and 1 and all of a sudden they're two games back in the division and they're saying we got to find our way into the playoffs. That's how a deal like this takes place. The Chiefs do they do like one of these a year, right. DeAndre Hopkins has taken place in the past. I'm forgetting others, but yes, the Jeeves have taken swings on guys, so wouldn't surprise me. All right.
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All right. Next one for me is go away Ramondre Stevenson. Yes. Thank you. Yes, go away. Speaking into existence, we've. We've had enough of this. 45 snaps, 21 routes, seven carries, led the running back room in all of those categories. Henderson only 23 snaps, 17 routes. So he was out routed by Ramondre Stevenson, which is not great. Had five carries. Now did have a slight edge in targets. But remember, they threw the ball a bazillion times in this game, which is not something we could count on going forward.
C
Five screen passes for Trayvon Henderson.
B
Yeah. Which keep that going. We did expect to meet.
C
That's a positive indicator.
B
That is a positive. And that's why I still have him ranked slightly ahead of Stevenson. Also, he outplayed him. He had 51 yards on his 11 touches, just 27 on nine touch touches for Ramandre Stevenson. And doing a sliver of hope to plug him in your flex, Maybe in a 12 team league play Miami this week. And again, we expect that defense to continue to struggle and if he can get along playing a screen or something like that, it will be good. But nonetheless, Ramon Dre, we expected him to have a role, but this was a lot and it's definitely way too much.
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This sort of copy and paste my analysis from the Texans earlier with Nico Collins, like, the Patriots are not good on offense. Maybe they'll get to become an average offense. It's not going to happen if Treveon Henderson is seeding 56 to 60% of the snaps to Ramon Dre Stevenson. Yeah, like, what about his performance on Sunday made you think like, ooh, yeah, like that guy deserves more opportunity. He looks slow, no explosion, not powerful. Nothing about what he did on Sunday makes you think this guy should be playing a whole lot more than the rookie who, albeit in a small sample size, showed like some elusiveness. Some.
A
I realize it's not the same Situation. But I feel like what you just said is the same thing that we were just talking about with the Chiefs. Like, why is Kareem Hunt playing so much? Why is Ramon Ray Stevenson playing so much? Like, we'd rather have the beat Pacheco and Travon Henderson.
C
I would just say that I think Henderson right now offers way more upside than Pacheco does.
B
He does.
C
Because I think the skill set is just a different level like Pacheco. I'm just concerned maybe that leg injury is like the kind that can just really hamper you for quite some time.
B
Yeah.
C
More than just a season.
B
If I'm going out and checking the trade block, I'm not looking for Isaiah Pacheco. No. I am looking for Trevion Henderson, RJ Harvey, Marion Hampton, guys like that.
A
My favorite stat from the Patriots game was Pop Douglas finishing with five targets, two catches, one touchdown for negative two yards.
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Yards.
A
Anytime you get negative two yards and still find a way to get a.
B
Touchdown, that actually checks out though, too. Yeah.
A
So that was. That was a fun one.
B
All right.
A
All right, Next one. Mike Clay.
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Okay, now you're good. Quentin Johnson. Yeah.
A
Right.
B
Awesome. Perfect timing. Nailed it. Awesome.
A
Thank you.
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Yeah. Let's. Let's kill the value of lad McConkey. We. We love this. 24.9 fantasy points was the second highest of his career. The highest was week 18. So it's been this last two regular season games. Although then he went into the playoff game last year and had zero catches on five targets. So this is typical of Quentin Johnson. Seven targets. He was behind Allen and Lad in that category, so that's good. But he played 50 snaps. And Keenan Allen also his target share in this game. I thought this was interesting. 21%. That was the exact target Cherry had last season. Squared eight touchdowns, was a top 40 fantasy wide receiver. So I got a little bit of him on waivers. You know, maybe like a 12 team league flex option. Yeah. But I think lad, obviously clearly the top fantasy option here. I think Keenan Allen a little bit of an edge on Johnson. I think. I think he's going to soak up enough targets to be more consistent in the better fantasy option. But it is possible that they could support three guys? I think it's possible. At least in 12 team leagues where you start three receivers in a flex. I think Johnson can hang in the flex.
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I'm happy for the player. No doubt about that. Yeah, I'm dubious. Like, I think this is going to be like, this is banana in the tailpipe written all over it. Like, hey, this upcoming weekend he has two catches for 15 years and you're like, what now I could be way wrong because here are the parts that I do like. Justin Herbert is that dude, Justin Herbert is ridiculous. On top of that, you guys are. Well, you guys are. But for the audience, it doesn't know as much about pass rate over expected. Every down and distance is measured or quantified as like are you likelier to run or throw the football? The Chargers had the highest pass rate over expectation in week one. A trait by the way, or a trend that goes back to the second half of last season. For all the talk about the Chargers being like a ground and pound team with Greg Roman as their coordinator, not so fast my friends. This is a team that I think is a Justin Herbert centric offense. That means great things for the passing offense. Might mean a little bit of a downgrade for Omari and Hampton, but great things for the passing offense.
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Yeah, and we talked about this last year cause they were the 10th pass heaviest offense in the NFL game script adjusted, same thing. Pass rate over expectations. So we shouldn't be totally shocked. However, I think they kind of tipped their hand in actives last week that they were just going to come out and chuck the ball a bazillion times. They only had two tight ends active, which is extremely rare in the NFL. And then they came out just flinging it around. So we'll. I'm kind of curious to see if like, like Aranda Gadson's active this week and then they balance it out a little bit and run a little bit more. Well nonetheless. Oh, Tucker, Fisk, whatever. Like another, another tight end.
A
So those are two huge tight end names. Wow, you guys are just crushing it with the tight ends in LA right now.
B
I think that was a game script, I mean a game plan sort of thing. But nonetheless, I agree. They, they'll probably lean toward the basket.
C
I think they would have been if either Tyler Warren or Colson Loveland had gotten down. They would have been a perfect fit for either of those guys in the draft because the Chargers did not have a single Titan that averaged over 10 yards per catch the in last season. Don't think we're getting there with Will Disley and Tyler Conklin.
A
Yeah, it doesn't feel like that.
B
Yeah, I don't think so. But anyway, thanks a lot for Johnson. Now when you know we drafted him in our rookie drafts and flyers on him and now he's going to do this. And by the way, I, I know that there's coach speak. There's some, there's quarterback speak as well. Justin Herbert was like, he's gonna have a big season after the game. Like he's, you know, this is, I'm really happy for the game. Yeah.
C
I just, you know, it's going to be the seesaw for Quinton Johnson anyway.
B
The point being McConkey or two. Trey Harris drafted round two. They bring back Keenan Allen and now Johnson's going to go, go off.
A
I need, I don't want that to happen.
B
Yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be tough to get consistent fantasy output. Anyway, last one for me. I have a question for you guys. What is a Raheem Sanders?
A
That's a great question.
C
I'll tell you what is that. Raheem Sanders, a tiny Rocket Arkansas running back and then a South Carolina running back who went undrafted and then started the season with the Chargers and then got claimed on of waiver for the Browns.
B
Yeah, well, we know that field.
A
But we, yeah, of course everybody knows that.
B
I think. We don't know that. For the, for the bit.
C
How amazing is that?
A
Why is he getting goal line touches, Mike?
B
Why did he play three snaps and score a touchdown in this game?
C
Great question.
B
That was the whole usage. There was a shocker, I will admit. I thought that Jerome Ford out of the gate was a viable flex option. Fringe RB2 and he was the backup. It was Dylan Sampson for sure. So the head scratcher isn't just Raheem Sanders, who, by the way, might be waived or inactive this week. If Quentin Quinshawn Judkins is active, might be a week for him, but nonetheless, when he comes back, Sanders won't be a factor. We're just having a little fun here. But short term, Dylan Sampson's the lead back at some point. This is going to be very confusing when Judkins takes over.
C
I just thought about this. What a Raheem Sanders is is the new name of our segment that we're going to start doing on Friday.
B
Oh, there you go.
C
What is a Raheem Sanders?
A
That's perfect.
C
A player rostered in under 1% of leagues who scores a touchdown.
A
Yeah.
C
All right. Can we like at least write that down for potential use? What is a Raheem Sanders? I love that.
B
I like a good man.
A
I love that you came up with that field. What is a Raheem Sanders? I mean, good for you. That was all feel great, great idea generation there by you.
B
Yeah. By the way, Thursday we were talking about Taekwond Thornton Or Friday night. And then we were just texting the whole time. See so many close calls. Almost had a return touchdown. No, but that was preseason so it doesn't count. By the way, honorable mentions for this segment. The jets and Steelers being offensive juggernauts whose course game is ridiculous. The Miami offense, of course, just like what. What is going on there? And then the Saints passing game which was an enormous amount of pass volume, much like New England. But the efficiency, horrendous. And we might be dealing with that all year long. I was going to say to come on that this week.
A
That's going to be a theme though in New Orleans. Right. They're just going to have to throw the ball 40 plus times a game.
B
They played faster. They need to change quarterbacks if they're going to do that if that continues. Because that was.
A
I don't care who the quarterback is as long as you throw the ball 40 plus times a game. Probably.
B
Well, it didn't work out last week.
A
It worked out if you had. If you got Joanne Johnson or even Chris Olava. Chris Olave had a huge bad.
B
Yards for attempt in this game.
C
No, it was bad. It was bad efficiency.
B
It was horrendous efficiency.
C
Bad efficiency. Yes. Out of. Weirdly, it almost feels like the most startable pass catcher from the New Orleans is Juwan Johnson. Because he plays tight end.
B
Yes, that's it.
C
Right. He played all but one offensive snap last week.
B
I will bring this up over the next two days, Daniel, so we can.
C
I kind of like this segment.
A
All right.
C
Where Mike just gets pissed off about something that happened the week.
B
I love that it's so easy in week one because it's so easy.
C
I know, but it could happen for a while, right?
B
Yeah, we'll bring it because like in.
C
Week like 13 or 14, it might not be anything actionable. It could just be like you freaking cost me a chance to clinch a first round buy. Because whenever Sincere McCormick had more rushing attempts than Ashton Genti. Yeah, I keep making Sincere McCormick a member of the Raiders.
A
Yeah, it's not.
B
I don't even know their practice squad.
A
I never know.
B
Yeah, he is on their practice. Dylan White's probably their, their, their insurance.
A
This is going to be. I like this though as like a. Get off my lawn, get off the field.
B
I feel like I was pretty calm because it's Wednesday, but if I did this on Monday. Where's that crayon at? I would have broken Ben.
A
No, it's not gone. It's gone. It's still. It's Safe. It's. We put it in that box over there.
B
Oh, you just threw it away.
C
Wait, last random thing while we're talking about Dylan Wy. Did you guys see in the Raiders post game video that he was the one that broke them down and he does like the Ray Lewis chance for him.
A
No way.
C
Like respect that. Like the 23 year old second year running back is the one. Like he's that entertaining.
B
Love. That's why he's on the squad leadership.
A
All right, let's dive into our show league update real quickly before we get into the mailbag here on Fantasy Focus.
C
And that brings an end to our show league update. Guys, talk to the mailbag. Now.
A
This is a tough week. I had to come down to the wire. There was only one really close matchup in our league and it was between me and Eric Moody, who right now is hanging out in chat.
C
Is Moody talking smack?
A
He can't because I beat him by 0.7 fantasy points.
C
Oh, my God.
B
Today's. Oh, no, no.
A
Stat correction day came in today, right? Yes. He had Justin Jefferson going on Monday Night Football and he fell just short of the line. So Debo Samuel L. Jackson beat team Moody. That's my team name is Deebo Samuel L. Jackson.
B
I like it.
A
And so it was a really close one there. It was a lot of fun being able to check that out. Although I've got Isaiah Pacheco on my squad. Don't feel super great about that anymore. How about you guys? How did your matchups? See this is the. If you're watching on our screen, Eric had some tough matchups here. Getting 1.8 from A.J. brown. Not great. Getting 6.8 from Bo Nicks. That was not great. Steelers defense did not do what he had hoped for.
C
This is victory scoring. So you were in worth with lucky winner of the week, Daniel.
A
But I lost. And I did all that with getting a zero from Xavier Worthy, by the way.
B
I didn't even look at this. Let's show the standing.
C
I didn't look at the standings, but I'm in first place.
A
Oh, what did you. What? Let's see.
B
I gotta show off while I can still. Do we have the standing?
A
Yeah, we'll. We'll throw the standings up there in just a minute.
B
I scored 14 more or 18 more points than anyone else.
C
Wow.
B
First place. We have a screen grab of Mike's of his squad.
A
We don't need to see it.
B
Tyler Irving or Bucky irving? Bijan Flowers, McConkey, Myers, McMillan.
A
Flowers went off.
B
Yeah, I have Sampson, actually Samson and Stevenson.
C
I'm in dead last place. What the hell.
A
Yeah. 02. That's not great. 34, chance to make the playoffs.
B
That's what we did on this. In this league. On waivers over last night, I added. This is a guy we have ranked low. He's still kind of buried a little bit. Added Michael Pennix Jr. As a flyer, just like. Because he did run a little bit.
A
He did.
B
Touchdown.
C
Yep.
B
He looked good. Like he could be a breakout player this season. And he's still flying under the radar a little bit, so I think he's a benchhold. So I'm actually carrying three quarterbacks just for. Just for fun for now to see how it works out. But how is this possible that two.
C
Years ago I win this league? So 20, 23, and then last year.
B
You'Re doing it again. You're going to win again.
C
No, I started. Remember last year I started 0 and 8.
A
You were awful.
C
And then I made a charge and like, I missed the playoffs in the.
A
Last week, you were right there.
C
Oh, so I go from the mountaintop.
B
To the like to the valley to.
C
To hell.
A
Yeah.
B
This is what it is. By the way, I. This is a bit of a throwback here to a couple of weeks ago, but when we drafted this league, they put our teams, the three of our teams next to each other on social to like, say people vote McMillan on my team. And I just want to say, like, I lost the vote obviously because I was missing, like my fifth round pick, but I was still getting some votes. So, yeah, people knew this was a good team. People knew even without McMillan. And now obviously with McMillan dominating the league out of game the.
A
So I just want to explain. So those that were watching at home, if you look at the standings, you'll see that Mike is two and oh, after week one, that's because we utilize victory points. So you get a win, obviously, for winning your matchup like you normally do. And then the way we use victory points is the top half of the league with the highest scores will also get a win. It helps to be able to kind of level the playing field of the best teams, making sure that they move on.
C
Because I remember now, it happened to me, I went, Brian Thomas Jr. Nico Collins.
B
That'll do it.
A
That was a tough.
C
That'll do it.
B
It. All right. Plenty of time. You'll bounce back this week. Yep.
A
So right now we are in a. We're in a great spot. We got four teams that are two and. Oh, four teams that are one to one. And four teams that are.02, so checks out. After week one, we'll see where things land. Mike, what do you have as my playoff percentage? It looks like I'm a 45. Chance to make the playoffs. I think that's too low as well. Why do you hate me?
B
You know why.
A
All right, that's fair. Who is the best team name out of all those, do you think?
B
Probably me. Mine called Mike. Clay.
A
Mike. Here's this. Please stop it. All right.
B
Nicknames on the show.
A
Let's dive in. I don't like Micah as a Packer. I don't know who that is. Jamar Geddon. Jamarageddon. Is that what it is? Jamargeddon.
C
I think that's maraged. Sure.
A
I like that one. All right, let's dive into some shows or. Excuse me, some questions here from our YouTube chat. We'll dive into that.
B
A lot of good.
A
We got a lot of punishments later this week.
B
Week.
A
Yes, we do.
B
You guys are great out there.
A
Yeah. You guys sent over a lot of good ones. And don't stop. We need punishments all year long. So, yeah, feel free to keep them coming.
B
The punishments, we need 18, 17 of them.
A
Yeah. I can't wait to be able to unveil tomorrow what we're going to do with Millilite Mike. However, this first question comes from Brandon Jackson says yes. Would you guys trade away Kenneth Walker for DeAndre Swift straight up?
C
Yes.
B
I think I have to right now. I mean, they weren't even terribly far off in terms of value coming into the the season. And Swift looked swift. Yes. In that. In that game.
C
Nailed it there. He played a ton. Yes. Not even a question.
B
And walker might be 1B all year long. Yes. Very possible. You might not be, but might be.
C
Begging for that trade that I suggested earlier. If you have Kenneth Walker.
A
If you have Kenneth Walker.
C
Answer is yes, Brandon.
B
It's just a hard one to. Like we talked about. It's so fresh.
C
Emotional detachment. You graduate to this level. Emotional detachment.
B
Yeah, I know. I get it. I just. Walker is. When he's healthy, he is really. He's one of them guys. Remember talking about him last year?
C
One of them guys you were talking about?
B
Breeze Hall. Yeah, He. He is a difference man.
C
I agree.
B
I'm just. It's not happening.
C
One of them guys are one of my favorite my Clay isms.
B
Is that right?
C
One of them guys?
B
Yeah, one of them guys.
A
He's one of them guys. Next question we have from our YouTube chat comes from Clutch.
B
Collects another easy one.
A
Dak or Caleb rest of season.
B
Caleb, come on. Deck was horrendous in week one.
C
A lot of upside there for Caleb Williams with the running. My goodness gracious. So like some of it's going to be designed.
B
Yep.
C
He also is just a very good scrambler. Like, he's a superb athlete.
B
Yeah.
C
Not Jaden Daniels, Lamar Jackson level, but he's a great athlete for.
B
By the way, speaking of like somewhat frustrating things in week one and maybe this is me now being 40 and getting old. But like, and by the way, total. I love quarterbacks that are multi dimensional can run the ball. It's exciting. Right? But also, how many times did someone drop back, stand in the pocket and throw a pass in that Vikings Bears game? Like, not at all.
C
Never.
B
It like just was not happening the first half. They never did. They would just wait, wait, wait, wait, and then scramble like every time. And I was like, man, I, I. You kind of miss a little bit the Drew Brees, like just drop back and make a pristine throw.
A
Like, I'll tell you what, just watch some Lions games. My guy doesn't scramble out of the pocket so.
B
Well, that didn't go well.
A
Maybe you should. Hey, I did not need any of that. I'm sorry. I hope I didn't spit on you there, Mike.
B
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, hey, I was. Yeah, no comment on that.
A
Sorry.
C
Yeah, I know that got my little vitriol.
B
Speaking of stuff though. Yeah. If we. I try. I kept it to football in the segment, but that was.
A
I did too.
B
Oh, well, that was the most infuriating thing of week one was Dan Carter for sure.
A
Anyway, tell me about it. All right, next question. Another question we have from our YouTube chat. This comes from Scott Colburn wants to know Ricky Piero, Keenan Allen or J.K. dobbins in the flex.
C
I think there's a clear. Yeah, I think there's a cleary in. But I also want to say these are three good options. It's Ricky Pearsall for me. Especially with.
A
I agree.
C
Now if Mac Jones plays, how much of a downgrade would it be now.
A
He'D be the Brian Thomas Jr. Of this offense. I mean, if Mac Jones plays where Ricky Pierce all to the moon.
C
But to me it's still Ricky Pearsall.
A
I agree.
C
But those are all good options. Like Keenan Allen, we talked about him earlier. Good value. And for now, J.K. dobbins, the man in that backfield.
A
He was. Yeah.
B
And we like the match up here. The secondary, I mean, the Saints, you know, we're fine against receivers in week one, but that's not. That's a secondary we expect to be able to exploit throughout this season. So I'm going Piersaw. And by the way, at some point, you would expect more RJ Harvey.
C
And get.
B
By the way, speaking of annoying players, all due respect to him, Tyler Beatty. Come on. What do you have four targets in this game?
A
Don't need it.
B
No, stop.
C
Bidet or something.
B
What?
A
B. But is it Bidet?
C
I just remember.
B
Yeah, it is bidet. Yeah. It's not Beatty.
C
Right. Like, I remember. So on fantasy football now, our producer is Addison Walter, who's excellent at his job, and he is also a Missouri grad. And so we were talking about Beatty last year who went to Missouri, and he was like, hey, yeah, it's actually Tyler Beatty. And I was like, on the game broadcast last week, they're calling him Bidet. And the game broadcasts are usually buttoned up. Right? Like, this is the part of their job that's integral to it. And I think he's, like, pivoted. I think he went by Beatty in college. And now is Bidet over to Bidet. That happened sometimes.
A
Hey, speaking of bidet, why don't you head on over to trophy smack.com? maybe you can get a bidet over there for somebody from your. We got a toilet seat right behind us.
B
That one needs one.
A
Use the promo code FOCUS10 for when.
C
You lose start of the week is to wear that for 20 minutes on the show.
A
I don't like.
B
Heavy is that thing.
A
I don't actually.
C
It's pretty heavy.
A
It's. Yeah, I feel it's. Yes, it's heavy enough.
B
I would actually invite that today. So.
A
Yeah, like a little neck thing.
B
I need like a chiropractor.
A
All right, we got one more question here from our YouTube chat. This question comes from. Oh, really? Nelson. Oh, Isaiah Pacheco, Nick Chubb or Jakori Crosky Merritt.
C
I think it's pretty obvious here it's not that this guy is going to be ranked way ahead of the other two, but it's which of these three players do we think has the best chance to score 14 points in a game? The answer is jcm. Bill.
B
I have a close. I have jcm. Third, based on his usage, they are playing the.
C
Who are you playing?
B
I have Chub and then Pacheco. Yeah. And then Crosby. Merida Chubb did play a lot of snaps, ran pretty well, had a lot of carries, and also the Bucks did not stop the run very well in week one. He could score too. I mean, if he gets a goal line carry, he can get it. I mean, we expect to use an offense to be better.
A
I hate to say that. I don't want to say that about. But like right now I just like, I got. If that's the way it feels. If I have to put Nick Chubb in my starting lineup, I feel like I'm. My body makes the noise.
B
Yeah, well, I mean, the answer is none. I mean, obviously we don't want to start any of these guys, but I think they're all pretty close in our rankings.
A
Green Bay's got a really stout defensive front too. I mean, that's the. That's the hard part. With Jacori Crosky. Merit.
B
I. Yeah, and he. I mean, he didn't play a lot. He got the touchdown. Otherwise it would have been single digits there. I don't know if we're going to count on the touchdown each and every week in this game. He needs more of a role.
A
If I had to pick one, I'd probably pick jcm.
B
Fair enough.
C
Same upside play. I like upside guys.
A
I think that's what it is for me. I just don't. That's. Nick Chubb might have the best chance of like falling across the goal line, but I think that's basically. I mean, he's touchdown dependent, right?
B
So he looked fine.
C
I like big upside and I cannot lie.
B
Big upside.
A
That's going to do it for today's show. Leave it there.
C
What a way to finish.
A
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Podcast: Fantasy Focus Football
Episode: Week 2 Rankings + Bounce Back Candidates | Fantasy Focus 🏈
Date: September 10, 2025
Hosts: Field Yates, Daniel Dopp, Mike Clay, Stephania Bell
The Fantasy Focus Football team (Field Yates, Daniel Dopp, Mike Clay, Stephania Bell) dig into fantasy football Week 2, focusing on how to interpret Week 1 results, identify bounce-back candidates, react to surprising usage and performances, and address key questions from the ESPN fantasy community. With their trademark banter and deep analytics, the team helps managers separate overreactions from actionable insights as the 2025 NFL season takes shape.
Notable Quote:
“It’s a lot of money for Christian Watson... but if he balls out and has eight touchdowns, he’d earn even more next year.” – Field Yates (04:05)
Baker Mayfield
Quote:
“There’s a gigantic tier of streamable quarterbacks this year.” – Mike Clay (07:25)
Daniel Jones
Quote:
“We have seen this from Daniel Jones before... I’m still a little bit nervous.” – Mike Clay (09:02)
Drake Maye
#### Fun Name Tangent: “Storm Duck” (13:29 – 14:24)
Field, Daniel, and Mike rapidly assess top players who disappointed in Week 1. Each shares a “confidence meter” score (1–10) for a bounce-back in Week 2:
Mike lists “five annoying things” about usage from Week 1, sparking lively debate:
Key Questions:
“There’s a gigantic tier of streamable quarterbacks this year.” – Mike Clay (07:25)
“I don’t want to get tricked by Daniel Jones again...” – Mike Clay (09:02)
“This is the devil you dance with when you roster AJ Brown... he is going to have some situations where he just has a dud week.” – Daniel Dopp (34:20)
“Why did Raheim Sanders play three snaps and get a touchdown?!” – Mike Clay (51:56)
“What is a Raheim Sanders? A player rostered in under 1% of leagues who scores a touchdown.” – Field Yates (52:40)
“I have a lot... a 38-year-old rule: I don’t make fun of people’s names. My name is Field.” – Field Yates (13:53)
The episode is light-hearted and banter-filled with plenty of inside jokes (e.g., “Storm Duck,” “What is a Raheim Sanders?”), but remains packed with actionable fantasy football analysis. The hosts challenge each other’s rankings, cite stats, and share candid thoughts, all while maintaining the conversational, supportive dynamic that regular listeners expect.
This episode offers the perfect blend of serious Week 2-ranking analysis and the playful camaraderie that makes Fantasy Focus Football a fan staple. The hosts help listeners navigate the chaos of Week 1 results, providing reassurance, rational strategy, and actionable advice, all while poking fun at the unpredictable world of fantasy football.
For more in-depth strategy and to participate in the mailbag, tune into the next episode or check out Fantasy Focus Football on YouTube and ESPN.com.