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Summary

Fantasy Focus Football – Week 2 Starts or Sits!

Hosts: Field Yates, Stephania Bell, Mike Clay, Daniel Dopp
Date: September 12, 2025

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Episode Overview

This packed Friday episode centers on weekly strategy for fantasy managers heading into NFL Week 2. The hosts dive into Thursday Night Football takeaways, break down shifting player values from injuries, debate lineup confidence for tricky offenses and committees, and deliver their favorite “start of the week” picks. The conversational, spirited tone features expert stat breakdowns, occasional friendly ribbing, and a heavy dose of honest, actionable advice.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. Thursday Night Football Recap: Packers Dominate

• Packers 27, Commanders 18: The crew analyze fantasy impacts, noting the score was misleadingly close due to garbage time.
  • Jaden Reed: Sidelined with a broken collarbone (out 6-8 weeks). Next man up: Savion Williams.
  • Austin Ekeler: Lost to an Achilles injury; likely out for the season.
  • Notable quote:
    "Unfortunately we lost Austin Eckler to an Achilles injury. Appears he's probably going to be done for the season." – Daniel (02:46)

Matthew Golden Frustration (03:43–06:13)

• Golden continues to lead in routes and snaps but is used primarily as a decoy.
  • Zero catches this week despite promising offseason narrative.
  • “They did take a couple shots. We could be having a different conversation today ... but he’s just not part of this offense.” – Mike (04:57)
  • Not startable in any league; safe to drop in 10-team formats, deep stash only in larger leagues.

Jordan Love’s Emergence

• Love’s play elevating conversation (292 yards, 2 TDs).
  • “Maybe Jordan Love might just go and win NFL MVP … he is playing at a very, very high level" – Field (07:05)
  • Love: Solid QB8–12 range; tough Week 3 matchup against Browns.
• Pass-catchers: Only Tucker Kraft (TE) reliably worth playing.
  • Kraft: 6 catches, 124 yards, 1 TD; compared to “baby George Kittle.”
  • “This guy is baby George Kittle … an intriguing top 10-ish tight end.” – Field (08:28)

Commanders’ Outlook

• Jaquori Cross-Merritt (RB): Elevated to borderline RB2/3 with Ekeler out, but expect a committee with Jeremy McNichols and Chris Rodriguez.
  • Efficiency tied to passing-game role: “He has to do more in passing situations because he had no catches. Again, that’s two weeks in a row with no catches.” – Mike (12:12)
• Packers Defense: Emerging as a set-and-forget fantasy D/ST.
• Receiver concerns: Terry McLaurin sub-10 points two weeks running; buy-low candidate. Debo Samuel solid top-30 WR. “By the dip”—show patience.

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2. Rookie Wide Receivers: Stock Watch (15:06–18:47)

Field’s Rankings for Week 2:

• Tetairoa McMillan (WR21): Panthers’ clear WR1, juicy matchup.
• Emeka Egbuka (WR24): Monitor Chris Godwin’s Bucs return for impact on target share.
• Travis Hunter (WR26): Playing more on defense this week—watch for snap count; could decrease offensive volume.

“I have hedged a tiny bit in my Travis Hunter ranking because I believe more defense means less offense.” – Field (16:27)

Travis Hunter Note:

• Primarily a slot receiver—could mean more targets but fewer big plays.
• “Huge target share” (18:27).

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3. Browns Offense: Too Many Cooks? (21:12–24:16)

• Five possible fantasy options: Dylan Sampson (RB), Jerry Jeudy, Cedric Tillman (WRs), David Njoku, Harold Fannin (TE).
  • Jeudy: Must-start. Tillman: deep-league flex. Fannin: promising but likely a streamer, not a weekly play.
• Njoku: Preferred tight end.
  • “Fannin is … more as Isaiah Likely than I do a guy that's actually going to be a weekly starter.” – Mike (23:24)

Running Game Clarification

• Jerome Ford may be sneaky—out-snapped Sampson last week.
• Injury Watch: Dallas Goedert (“expect to be without”), Brock Bowers (“just make sure you have an insurance option”).

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4. Running Back Committees and Start/Sit Debates (25:03–32:00)

• Vikings Backfield: Aaron Jones vs. Jordan Mason. Jones has slight edge for PPR due to passing-game work; both low-end RB2/flex, with Mason more likely for goal-line work.
  • “Neither one of these guys had a touch inside the 10-yard line…if one of them did, it probably would be Jordan Mason as the goal line guy.” – Daniel (26:49)
• Committee Clarity (Rapid Fire):
  • Seahawks: Nay on starting either RB.
  • Chiefs: Nay.
  • Patriots: Only Jalen Henderson as a desperation flex.
  • Giants: Yes, Tyron Tracy a borderline RB2/flex.
  • Steelers: Jalen Warren a flex option.
  • Texans: Avoid.

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5. New Orleans Saints: Who Can You Trust? (32:00–34:44)

• Alvin Kamara: Obvious start.
• WRs (Olave, Shahid): Flex range at best; poor QB play limits upside.
• Juwan Johnson (TE): Has trended up (“12+ fantasy points in three straight with Rattler”). Tight end volatility remains.

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6. Patrick Mahomes: Still Top 10 Without Reliable WRs? (34:45–38:14)

• Xavier Worthy (shoulder) and Rashee Rice (likely out) sap pass-catching. In week one, Mahomes’ fantasy value buoyed by career-high rushing output.
  • “He scored 11.7 fantasy points via the run. That was the second most … if he had an average rushing day, he would’ve been QB15.” – Daniel (35:56)
• Eagles are a favorable matchup for passing. Hosts debate if Mahomes’ rushing is sustainable—Field thinks QB6, Daniel says QB9 (“better chance to be outside top 10 than inside”).

Board Bet:
“I say Patrick Mahomes is inside the top 10 of quarterbacks in Week 2.” – Field (38:12)
“I say Patrick Mahomes is outside the top 10 at quarterbacks in Week 2.” – Daniel
“Mike says he is exactly QB10.” – Mike

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7. QBs Who Changed Teams: Start/Sit (40:00–42:33)

• Justin Fields: Clear start, consensus top-seven fantasy QB (“Fields was spinning that thing too, as well. He was throwing the ball very, very well.” – Field)
• Aaron Rodgers: Sit. Capped upside, not running, little fantasy appeal—move on in 1QB leagues.

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8. San Francisco 49ers Without Purdy & Kittle (42:33–44:49)

• Ricky Pearsall: Lineup lock, albeit with some downgrade to WR3/flex.
• Juwan Jennings: Monitor injury status, deep league flex only.
• Streaming TE: Jake Tonjas not recommended.

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9. Marvin Harrison Jr.: Volume Concerns (44:36–47:17)

• Five catches, 61 yards, TD—only six targets.
  • “21% target share is not going to cut it for Marvin Harrison Jr. to get to his ceiling. So we need that to pick up.” – Mike (46:41)
  • If volume stays low, could slide from WR1 to “DeVonta Smith”/“Zay Flowers” tier.

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10. Bullish vs. Bearish: Hot Player Debates (47:31–55:10)

Derrick Henry (vs. Browns)

• Field (RB3), Daniel (RB4): bullish on upside.
• Mike (RB7): "Somewhat boom-bust … 18 points is my projection, but he was under that 9/17 games last season."

Tetairoa McMillan

• Mike (WR29): Down on him vs. improved Cardinals D.
• Field/Daniel (WR21-20): More optimistic matchup view.

Kyle Pitts

• Field (TE10), Daniel (11): See streamer value.
• Mike (TE16): Recurring boom/bust. “Every time you trust Kyle Pitts, he goes 3 for 19.”

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Starts of the Week Picks (56:12–61:18)

See timestamps for each pick.

• Mike Clay:

  • QB: Drake May vs. Miami
  • RB: Jalen Warren vs. Seattle
  • WR: Zay Flowers vs. Cleveland
  • TE: David Njoku vs. Baltimore

• Field Yates:

  • QB: Drake May (matchup, possible breakout week)
  • RB: Javonte Williams (workhorse for Dallas)
  • WR: Keenan Allen (safe target share)
  • TE: Kyle Pitts

• Daniel Dopp:

  • QB: Justin Herbert (Raiders matchup)
  • RB: David Montgomery (vs. Bears; projects for volume/TD)
  • WR: Ricky Pearsall (SF, due to injuries)
  • TE: Juwan Johnson (volume play)

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• On Packers D/ST: “Every year we have massive turnover with fantasy defenses ... this could be the Packers year.” – Mike (13:07)
• On Fantasy Managers: “Listen, Daniel, you stood by the Lions through some of the crappiest decades, not years, decades imaginable ..." – Field (02:33)
• On Board Bet Culture: “I don’t want to do three board bets back to back to back… Monopoly quarter?” – Field (50:43-50:55)
• On Kyle Pitts Trust Issues: “Every time you trust Kyle Pitts, he goes 3 for 19.” – Field (54:21)
• On Bullish vs. Bearish Segment: "Mike, you’re going to play the Buzz Killington role here..." – Daniel (47:31)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Packers/Commanders Recap & Injuries: 02:46–08:10
• Matthew Golden Usage Debate: 03:43–06:41
• Tucker Kraft Hype: 08:25–09:35
• Commanders RB Backfield: 10:41–12:56
• Packers D/ST Value: 13:07–13:28
• Start/Sit Committee RBs: 25:25–32:00
• Browns Pass Catchers Crunch: 21:12–24:16
• Saints Pass Catchers: 32:00–34:44
• Mahomes Start/Sit Board Bet: 34:45–38:14
• Fields vs. Rodgers: 40:00–42:33
• 49ers Post-Injuries: 42:33–44:49
• Harrison Jr. Volume: 44:36–47:17
• Bullish/Bearish Segment: 47:31–55:10
• Starts of the Week: 56:12–61:18

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Summary for Fantasy Managers (Actionable Advice)

• Packers: Jordan Love is a strong QB1/2; start Tucker Kraft. Hold/drop Golden, bench all WRs.
• RB Watch: Jaquori Cross-Merritt jumps, but beware committee risks. David Montgomery and Jalen Warren are preferred RB2 plays this week.
• WR Stock Up: Ted McMillan (start), Emeka Egbuka (borderline), Travis Hunter (borderline if role reduced).
• TE Streamers: Juwan Johnson, Tucker Kraft, Kyle Pitts (if desperate).
• QBs: Mahomes is still top 10 (pending WR health, sustain rushing upside?). Justin Fields a must start. Bench Aaron Rodgers.
• Bullish/Bearish Calls: Don’t overreact to one week. Monitor role/target share for rookie WRs/RBs. Be wary of crowded committees.
• Defenses: Packers and Browns both emerging as set-and-forget options.

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Notable Board Bets

• Patrick Mahomes: Top 10 fantasy QB or not? (38:12)
• Derrick Henry, Tetairoa McMillan, Kyle Pitts: Ongoing bullish vs. bearish internal “bets.”

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Fantasy Focus Football returns Sunday morning with lineup advice. Don’t forget: be patient, keep perspective, and—good luck in Week 2!

Transcript

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Focus Fancy.

[A]

Fantasy Focus what's good friends? Welcome to Fantasy Focus Football alongside Field Yates and Mike Clay. My name is Daniel Dopp. We have a huge Friday show planned for you. A Thursday night football recap, part two of our week two preview as well as our starts of the week and a couple of players we may be bullish or bearish on, but first and foremost it's great to see you guys feel. I see you're wearing your towel shirt again today. It looks really soft.

[B]

Yeah, it's really. It is very soft.

[C]

Permission to feel at this point?

[B]

Please do.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

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Oh yeah.

[B]

Go for it.

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Doesn't feel nice.

[B]

You know it's funny. Is I. There was so last summer, Chapin and I, we, our kids were extremely young and we, we hired a nanny for a month and she was very, very fashion forward and she's incredibly sweet girl, very nice. And Chapin and I went out like three times over the course of that month and the nanny noticed that I wore this exact same shirt each time.

[C]

Stop.

[B]

And on the third time she was like, I have to tell you something. Something. She's like, you have to stop wearing that.

[A]

I was like, I love getting fashion.

[C]

Advice from your nanny. Like, that's so good.

[B]

No, I have a lot of clothing. I guess I just wasn't paying attention. But she's like, literally every time you've gone out, you've been wearing that shirt. You have to stop.

[A]

You have to do something.

[B]

So I put it into hibernation for a while and it's back now.

[A]

I love it. Mike, you wore your nicest brown shirt today.

[C]

Olive T shirt. Yeah. Went for it. It's fine. No big deal. Not feeling too creative or pleased today. We'll get to that.

[A]

Hey, we'll dive into that.

[C]

You're wearing a jersey.

[B]

Larry Fitzgerald.

[C]

I'm wearing.

[B]

Should we address this jersey?

[A]

No, we're going to address it a.

[C]

Little bit later on in the show.

[A]

I'll let you guys know. I'm wearing a non Lions jersey. But you're allowed to wear jerseys of other teams as long as you're into the player, right? Like that's okay.

[B]

Listen, listen, Daniel, you stood by the Lions through some of the crappiest decades, not years, decades imaginable in the NFL. If you want to root for the Cardinals, I think anybody but the Packers, Bears and Vikings, I'm good with it.

[A]

I am with you. And speaking of the Packers Field G8s, that defense might be a problem for us. They have been unbelievable, unbelievably good through the first two weeks of the season. Couple things we need to start with here and obviously we're going to get into both sides of this game. But the, the two big stories for me, unfortunately we lost Austin Eckler to an Achilles injury. Peers who he's probably going to be done for the season. And Jaden Reed unfortunately broke his collarbone. Reports he may be out six to eight weeks, maybe come back mid November time frame. So that's going to be tough. It'll be next man up for the Green Bay packers, which is probably going to be Savion Williams or somebody else.

[B]

Because they hate Matthew Golden.

[A]

Mike, do you want to go ahead and take over from here?

[B]

Packers win 27 18. By the way, garbage time helps the commitment.

[C]

It was not that. It didn't feel that close at all.

[A]

It wasn't that close.

[C]

The packers just kept letting them hang in there. Probably because they weren't utilizing Matthew golden enough.

[A]

Malik Heath and Savion Williams got more run than Matthew Gold.

[C]

So let's talk about this because after.

[B]

One week we told ourselves, we pledged that we're not going to overreact to everything positively or negatively that happened from week one.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

At one point, Mike, does the sample size of the Packers A, not playing Matthew golden enough and B, more importantly, not utilizing him enough, come to fruition because he had zero catches. He had two rushing attempts. Last night. He got a couple of targets. There was a downfield shot. But when the packers began the game, three receivers were on the field. None of them was Matthew Golden. Has your tenor on Matthew golden changed dramatically just a little bit or not at all?

[C]

Yeah, it has changed short term to the point that he's nowhere close to starting lineups in fantasy. You know, the good news is that for the second week in a row he was second in routes to only and snaps as well to only Romeo Dobbs. The problem was if you watch closely what he was doing out there. And I was watching closely obviously. First of all, Matt LaFleur is awesome. His design, game plan, unbelievable. Just how guys break wide open. It's unbelievable. So props for that. But Matthew golden was not even a first read often. I mean he just, he was a decoy for the most part. They did take a couple shots. We could be having a different conversation today. There was an end zone target. You missed him in a touchdown.

[B]

And that was Jordan Loves problem.

[C]

Yeah, that was problem. And then there was. Could have been what, a 93 yard touchdown where he missed him again by a couple of feet. That would have been a long touchdown with, with golden speed. So had those, I'll say this, had those plays connected. Even one of them might be like, all right, you know, looking good, good pick in the middle. But I would have came in here and told you trade him now, you know, because he's just not getting enough run. He's not part of this offense. So to the people who said I don't care if he's a first round pick, they're going to keep rotating wide receivers and this is just what the offense is. Guess what? You were right. That's two weeks.

[A]

You're right.

[C]

Yeah. It might change at some point. But you cannot start him right now. Honestly, you know what I was thinking? He's being utilized like Marvin Mims, essentially.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I was going to say Don Tavian Wicks last year because I felt like Don Tavian Wicks was the all route run team without actually getting any production.

[C]

But only when, only when someone was out. Like if Christian Watson was out.

[A]

Yeah. And Jaden Reed played four snaps. This was back to the thing that you had just said. Jaden Reed played four snaps, didn't get any production. I would have loved to be able to replace Jaden Reed in my lineup after that.

[B]

So maybe the most important takeaway here then is okay there. So Matthew golden until further notice, can't start. Maybe all season, can't start.

[C]

We'll see.

[B]

We hope that that changes. But definitely not startable in week three when they play the Browns.

[A]

You're not dropping him right, Mike? You're benching him at this point.

[C]

Is he droppable in like a 10 team league? Yes. Is he fine to keep on the end of your Bench in case next week they come out and decide, okay, we're going to get him as seven targets, which we thought coming into the season would happen.

[B]

We're a couple weeks.

[C]

Yes. I mean they did come out in the first drive and what they do, they feature Dante being wicks. That was clearly a game plan. You know he was the first read like they were like, all right, he must had a good week of practice. We're coming out. That's what I thought golden was going to get this year. And they're just not there yet.

[B]

What made you think that? Was it the fact that he was the 22nd overall pick in the draft?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Ding, ding, ding, ding.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And also all positivity in the offseason like real deal.

[B]

I'm validating your, your, your hypothetical Matthew golden role by the fact that he was the first packers wide receiver they've taken in the first round in over 20 years. So Matthew golden, not startable. Keep him on benches, but droppable in a 10 team league if you must. Jordan Love. I remember last year, coming into last season, he was like quarterback 9 or 8 on my board and I thought about all the weapons he had and I was like, is the thing that we're missing not like is it Jaden Reed, is it Christian Watson, is it Romeo Dobbs? But maybe Jordan Love might just go in. NFL mvp. Might have been a year too late on that as he is playing at a very, very high level right now is Love who had 292 passing yards, two passing touchdowns and nearly 21 fantasy points. So 21 is like a good number to be clear, like if you started Jordan Love last night, kudos to you. It worked out on the other side of the equation like Jaden Daniels played one of the worst games I've ever seen Jaden Daniels play. It is now what, 19 game career and he still ended up with like 19 fantasy points. Right. So Love definitely has entered that, call it somewhere between like quarterback 8 to 12 range for me because of the way he has played so far. But he's going to have to have some things go really right for him week in, week out. This offense is primed to have some monster weeks. But like next week playing against the Browns, who I think will play good defense against passing only quarterbacks might not be quite to the point of a top 10 player, but is there any packers pass catcher that you guys want to be starting right now?

[A]

No.

[C]

Well, Kraft, I think we're going to be ranking him as a back end, tight end, touchdown Guys dropped out. We talked about it yesterday. A couple of guys dropped out of the top 12 now. So I think he'll be in that weekly conversation.

[A]

I don't want any of the wide receivers.

[B]

I agree on the wide receivers, but Craft has probably entered the conversation. Right. I think there are a lot of people that watched that game last night and are thinking what I was thinking. Holy crap, this guy is baby George Kittle. Right? Six catches, 124 yards and a touchdown. Rumbling, stumbling, bumbling, doing his thing as a blocker as well. And here's what I would say about Tucker Kraft that makes him an intriguing top 10 ish tight end. Maybe even higher than that. Is if you look at some of the players that are occupying space at the back end of our tight end 1 rankings, he's a better player than those guys.

[C]

Yeah, right.

[B]

Like he is amongst, I would imagine, I haven't put too much thought into this, but like he's one of the 10 most talented tight ends. Right. Amongst healthy players too. Like I think Isaiah likely is part of that conversation when healthy, but he's not healthy. He also has a Mark Andrews problem on his team. So I'm very intrigued by Tucker Kraft going forward. I would say that I am prepared to live with the six catches for 124 yard touchdowns. I guess.

[A]

Yeah, of course you're prepared to live with that.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

What I meant to say was I am, I am going to be incredibly grateful for those, but I'm prepared to live with like the two catches. Even last week it was, I think it was under 20 receiving yards. He just had a touchdown to bail you out.

[C]

Yeah. I just want to say about agree on craft on love. Three carries, 12 yards, one more rushing. I think with that defense, defense being so good, I'm not sure he's going to add a lot with his legs this year or really be chucking it in the second half. So that's my slight pause on his ceiling. But you're right, I'll probably hang around the QB1 conversation. And by the way, yeah, he's playing great except for when he's throwing to Matthew Golden. So we need to connect on some of those deep shots or I, I, you know, I, I'm thinking maybe we call him like Michael Bronze now. Do we like change his name from.

[A]

Matthew golden to Michael Bronze?

[C]

Steve. Honorable mention.

[A]

I like it.

[C]

Bill off the podium, huh, Bill? No war, no medal.

[A]

Packers spend 13 and a half million dollars on Christian Watson and a first round draft pick on two wide receivers. They're not even utilizing in this offense. It's going to be very interesting to see.

[B]

Right now is not the time to question the Packers. No, they're looking fantastic.

[C]

No, we are questioning for fantasy football. Okay. I'm just saying everything they're doing is great for the Packers. If you're a Packers fan, you're like, I don't care about this at all.

[B]

But we got a lot.

[C]

We're here to talk about fantasy football value and we want this guy to get the.

[A]

All right, so with fantasy football value, then let's spin ahead and talk about the running back on the other side.

[B]

Because I'm two things really.

[A]

You want to do that?

[C]

Go ahead.

[B]

No, no, let's same. We have two more things to cover in this game.

[A]

With Austin Eckler going down, obviously Jaquori Cross. Merritt feels like he's going to take a jump up for us because of the backfield situation. Now he hasn't looked super fantastic.

[B]

I thought he looked fine last week.

[A]

He looked good enough.

[B]

Constructive.

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Correct.

[B]

The packers were bum rushing them. Second time I've used that term in like a week. So I apologize to the people that are anti the term bum. I think it was you who was like, what does that even mean? Packers were swarming last night on defense.

[A]

Yes, they were.

[B]

Jechori Krasky, Merritt. Bill is going to be fine. I think he's going to see a pretty significant uptick in volume as well. Yes, Jeremy McNichols will play. I don't think it's a one for one replacement that Jeremy McNichols absorbs all of Austin Eckler snaps. And Bill continues to play in his role, especially as the season rolls along. They'll continue to grow more trustworthy of a seventh round rookie. But stock way up for Bill.

[C]

Yeah, I looked at last year when Austin Eckler was out and a little bit at when Brian Robinson was out and we did see a lot of Jeremy McNichols and we saw a lot of Chris Rodriguez. I expect them using three running backs in this game. The last snap played by JCM last night was in the third quarter. He didn't touch. He didn't see the field. In the fourth quarter it was 10 straight snaps. For 10 straight running back snaps. Because Debo took a snap right after Eckler left. That was just McNichols. So I agree to an extent. However, he's. He's going to be a thorn in the side. McNichols is essentially the backup for Ekeler. Chris Rodriguez is essentially the backup for jcm. So I think all three guys see the field. I think Crosby Merrick can flirt with RB2 numbers if they expand his role. But he has to do more in passing situations because he had no catches. Again, that's two weeks in a row with no catches. Like how is he going to provide running back two numbers without any involvement in the passing? That's going to have to change.

[B]

Raiders, Falcons, Chargers, their next three games.

[C]

I think going to be better for offense.

[B]

The first two they can at least the Chargers could be excellent on offense, but the first two to me, not good enough that you'll be playing from behind.

[A]

That's what I was going to say. Like he got game scripted out of this and I think more often than not the Commanders probably won't have him game scripted out of games as they're trying to come from Biden.

[B]

They don't have a choice. Right. They just may have to play him more. We always talk about like how a player is utilized in a game in which a teammate is hurt can change dramatically after a week. Or in the case of the Commanders, nine days to prepare for their Week 3 matchup against the Raiders.

[A]

I'm definitely worried about starting running backs though against the Green Bay backers after the first two weeks, they held both the Lions and the commanders under 100 yards combined on the ground with both those teams. Those are two good rushing football teams.

[C]

Yeah. This might be the defense. I mean every year we have massive turnover fantasy defenses. The number one scoring fantasy defense is finished outside the top 10. The next year, six of the last eight seasons, that position turns over. That's why we, that's why you wait till the last two rounds to take kickers and defenses. Same thing. This could be the packers year where they, they blow up and are the top scoring fantasy defense or one of them.

[A]

Last thing to talk about here is the pass catchers.

[B]

Yeah, just quickly. And we can table this for mostly next week because we addressed it throughout this week. Concerned about Terry McLaren back to back under 10 fantasy point games. My answer's probably not nine targets. I think you buy like. Yeah, yeah. By the dip. Nine, nine targets last night. Debo was certainly aided by the garbage time.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Still eight targets. He was involved much more early than Tara McLaren is like I think Debo is for now like hanging steady as a top 30 wide receiver.

[C]

Yeah. Even Jaden Daniels a little like you said, he had 19 points. A little uninspiring. He hasn't had that huge game like we saw from, you know, Josh. Exactly. So I think that, you know, maybe it is your only opportunity to buy on Jaden Daniels might be so buying the offense.

[A]

I think that Debo Samuel has kind of put himself in a spot where like we. You just said it's probably in that top 30 conversation. Regression shouldn't hit this hard for the entirety of the season with Terry McClure and we expected a little bit of regression after last year but. But not quite this. So I think we're. I'm still hanging tight with both of these commanders pass catches, by the way.

[C]

What are you laughing at?

[B]

Yeah, I'm laughing at. I'm a guess Tyler, our producer is responsible for this. But the caption when we were Talking about Terry McLaurin was put it in reverse. Terry Harkens back. Tyler gets that credit. Okay, way to go, Tyler. Bravo.

[C]

Bravo, Tyler.

[B]

Well done by you. So this is why you got to watch the stream on YouTube as well and subscribe if you do. All right, week two part two preview time.

[A]

Yeah, since you mentioned YouTube, go ahead and over head on into the chat where our buddy Eric Moody is hanging out. Ask some questions. We're going to preview the rest of week two here field. Why don't you give us your first takeaway first?

[B]

Well, this is my sort of my. My topic to highlight going into week two. My first one is and again a reminder that we have already covered some ground yesterday. It's still early on in the season. These are not prioritized in like a specific one through X order. This is just things that are coming to mind for me. Let's talk about the value of the rookie wide receivers after what we saw in week one. We discussed the running backs for the most part yesterday from this rookie class. Tedrome McMillan I think is a clear stock up player. You can see their week one production this up on the screen right now which included a Mecca Abuka going off for 23.6 fantasy points. Here is how I have those three wide receivers, Tedro McMillan, Travis Hunter and Emeka Abuka ranked for week two. First, Tedro McMillan, wide receiver, 21 for me. They play against Arizona. Looking forward to this game because Arizona's defense got a big boost in the form of Will Johnson. But T Mac looked legit. This guy looks like a pure wide receiver. One for the Panthers that will get there maybe one day in fantasy number two, Ameka Abuka. They of course play Monday night against the Houston Texans. Of note, Chris Godwin returned to practice yesterday. Not going to play this week but we'll monitor Chris Godwin's eventual return to lineup because that will have ramifications for somebody in the Bucs offense.

[A]

Sure will.

[B]

It may not be Emeka Buka, it might be Mike Evans, but it certainly is going to change how things will look in this Bucks offense. He's wide receiver 24, wide receiver 26. For me, and potentially trending downwards is Travis Hunter. Adam Schefter talked about this. Excuse me, Liam Cohen talked about this. He said he's going to play more on defense this week. I don't want to put too much pressure on our great friend of the show, Adam Schefter, but last week, Saturday night he dropped a story about how Travis Hunter was going to be in every play. Wide receiver and a limited defensive back. That was how things looked on Sunday. No surprise. Shefty was money in the bank, as he always is. Again, no pressure, Shefty. But if you want to give us on Saturday night the expected role for Travis Hunter, that would be great. Because playing more on defense might mean 12 snaps on defense and still about every snap on offense. We don't know that, but I have hedged a tiny bit in my Travis Hunter ranking because I believe more defense means less offense. Thoughts?

[C]

Yeah, I think that's completely fair. I don't expect his role to expand drastically on defense. I just don't know if that there's room there. I mean, last week they felt like, all right, we're going to pull Jerry and Jones off the field a little bit opposite Tyson Campbell. Cause they have Jordan Lewis in the slot and he's terrific. He's not going anywhere. Campbell's not going anywhere. So they're going to pull Jones out a little bit and put him in there. Montero Brown is a guy that's been out. I don't know if he's going to play this week, but he's a guy that could rotate in. So I don't know if there's room for him to play a ton of snaps on defense. They don't need them there. They need them on offense. So yes, he might play a few more snaps, but I don't know if you want a guy running all these routes on offense and then being like, hey, go cover Jamar Chase and T. Higgins. That's who he's going to cover on the perimeter. They're the outside guys.

[B]

So I don't know notably, and this does not align with what I expected coming out of college. He was a slot receiver in Week one. Trevor Hunter was a slot receiver for the Jaguars, which might decrease the big play volume, but it might increase the overall volume. So there's a bit of a push pull there that I think if he is playing again 80 to 85% of the snaps week in and week out on offense, that's going to be a player who's going to have value.

[C]

Yeah, a huge target share.

[B]

Huge target share last week in a quirky game with bad weather. Wouldn't surprise me if he continues to play that amount of target, that amount of snaps. If we're talking about Hunter as a borderline top 20 wideout, we'll have further conversations about Brian Thomas Jr. At a later time when I'm in a better mental state.

[A]

Brian Thomas Jr. Though still a lineup block for this game even after a tough week one.

[C]

Correctly he has to be. For now we got to get that Lawrence connection going. But for now we're we're moving forward.

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Two Mike Clay yeah so guys, how many Browns is too many Browns?

[A]

That's the question.

[B]

What can Brown do for you?

[C]

I don't know if enough to justify where what we're thinking about all these guys because we suddenly have a lot of guys seemingly on the fantasy radar. Obviously if we assume Quinshon Judkins doesn't go this week we have Dylan Sampson who we view as at least a flex option after we saw last week we're crossing off Jerome Ford. But we have Jerry Judy and Cedric Tillman who had the same number of targets last week. Tillman scored again. Remember last year when he was healthy mid season. He was doing great. He was a top score. He was the top scoring receiver for a couple of weeks. Obviously Jerry Judy were keeping him in lineups. And then the two tight ends are suddenly a conversation with David, David and Joku. And one of the top waiver ads this week in fantasy was of course Harold Fannin who had nine targets in one. So the question is can we really consider starting five guys in this offense?

[B]

You know why? Because we've seen this from the Browns previously like within the past year or two years when Joe Flacco was there two years ago. And what we're not seeing from this Browns offense, what Mike I don't believe is declaring is there's anybody within the Browns offense that is an absolute top five at his position. The closest is probably just because he plays tight end David Njoku. But all these guys can like scrape right around like back end starter level at their respective positions which has fantasy value. Yeah they're going to be a pass heavy offense. I do think they're going to probably struggle to score points. That being said, a lot of volume even in the absence of touchdown is touchdowns is totally fine for the past catchers.

[A]

I wonder if we're going to see an offense that gives us two fantasy relevant tight ends or relevant enough if Harold Fanning continues to be able to.

[B]

Get the long time.

[A]

Yeah the snaps that he said it has been a minute.

[C]

Yeah since 2011. Only one actually since. Yeah, since 20. I think it's 2021.

[B]

We've had one Zach Ers and Dallas Goddard.

[C]

Yeah, exactly right.

[B]

And before that, Patriots.

[C]

Yeah. But it was easy to get in the back end at that point and Ertz missed some games and Goddard's kind of spiked and that's why he got in there. But the. I mean last year it was kind of close cause we had. Isaiah likely was in the top 20 but most of that was week one and then he really fell off. So I just think it's going to be hard for both of them to especially in this offense. So we don't expect to score a lot.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

To be top even 15 scores. And I think David and Joku, who still had more snaps last week than Fannin is going to be the preferred fantasy option. I don't think that's a bold take by any means. So Fannin is a guy that I view more as like more as Isaiah likely than I do a guy that's actually going to be a weekly starter. And if you say but Mike, he's playing wide receiver. Okay. But so are Jerry Judy and Cedric Tillman. I just don't know that they're going to support essentially three wide receiver fantasy star like and Cedric Tillman. You know we're ranking him as like a 12 team league flex. Not a must start by any means. But. But that's still a lot of mouse to feed even with Joe Flacco under center and he's run. Yeah, it's. It's still going to be tough. By the way, one closing note here. Circling back to the running backs is kind of quietly drum for did out snap and out route Dylan Sampson last week. So just a little bit of pause on. On Sampson there. Just be careful with that. And Quinn, Sean Judkins, I don't know if he'll play this week. If he does, he'll be limited. But we're not advising. Don't get too carried away on Sampson.

[A]

To be clear, while we're talking about tight ends, I just want to mention really quickly it seems as though we should expect to be without Dallas Goddard who you had just mentioned has not practiced for a coup days now in a row. Mike. We've already pulled them out of the projection so something if you are starting Dallas Goddard to be aware of and Brock Bowers did not practice last week. This seems like there's at least a convers. Sorry. Last night, not last week. Seems like there's at least a conversation. If I had Brock Bowers in my lineup. I just want to make sure that I had an insurance option just in case he decides not to go here in week.

[B]

The good news is there is a very good one in his own team, his teammate Michael Mayer. If he is gone by Monday night, you are very limited in terms of options. But if he's available, wouldn't be bad to grab him if you insurance a.

[C]

Fantasy insurance tight end.

[A]

That's right.

[C]

You don't see him very often.

[A]

No, you don't.

[C]

Isaiah Likely and Mayor there's not many.

[B]

Daniel, hit me with your number one storyline of the week for week.

[A]

Are you guys. No, not him. No. Are you? Not my number one storyline but one of my top storylines. Are you guys trusting Aaron Jones over Jordan Mason or do you think that the gap has closed where at this point we're kind of looking at this Vikings running back situation similar to the way that we just talked about the Seahawks running back situation earlier this year or earlier this week where this is now a committee between these two guys.

[B]

It definitely has a committee, correct? It's definitely a committee.

[A]

Are they starters?

[C]

Are you sure?

[B]

Sorry, the pause is trying to compare them to the Seahawks running backs. Mason ran the best out of the four of them for sure in week one. Yes, Jones is going to play enough, he's going to get some passing game utilization. But yes, he feels like a classic stuck in the mud player one of these weeks where it's like rather than having a 28 yard receiving touchdown, he doesn't. And you're like wait, Aaron Jones got eight and a half fantasy points. What the heck man.

[C]

So good. I was just going to say they tried that a couple times with him, a couple wheel route opportunities. So that seems to be more more of a defined role for him this year is in the passing game because they're clearly turning over a lot of the carries to Jordan Mason. But here's the thing, as we know, targets more valuable than carries. You can get it more 12, have a 12 to 8 edge in carries or something and be the worst fantasy option because you're uninvolved in the passing game. And that's going to be an issue with Jordan Mason. He has a handful of catches and targets in his NFL career And he's what, 27, 28 years old, very touchdown dependent player.

[B]

He 12 for 52 and surprised anyone.

[C]

But that's my long way of saying that I have Aaron Jones a couple spots ahead. They're close. The gap has closed to answer your question. But I'm still leaning Jones because the passing game work is just. It lifts your floor. It gives you such a better opportunity.

[A]

Leaning Jones, which I can, I can totally buy, especially with the passing game work. Neither one of these guys had a touch inside the 10 yard line. I think if one of them did, it probably would be Jordan Mason as the goal line guy. Right?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But do you think that with what you saw from Jordan Mason, it has moved Aaron Jones far enough down your running back ranks that you no longer view him as a starting level player or do you think he's still flex worthy here in week two against the Falcons?

[C]

I'm at like 20 before pulling guys out yesterday. 25. So 25 duration or a 12 team starter.

[B]

Of those four, the two Seahawks running backs and the two Vikings running backs, they're all very close. I think the order based off what we saw in week one for me would be Aaron Jones 1. It will be Zach Charbonnet 2. Jordan Mason 3. Kenneth Walker the third, 4. Wow.

[C]

So you don't think there's. I have a Walker just ahead of Charbonnet. I think that maybe he'll take on a little more now.

[B]

I believe it's going to be more and more Zach sharpen.

[A]

I got more. I got Charbonnet over Ken Walker as well. These, like all four of these running backs are basically in the RB25 to RB35 range because they're just cannibalizing each other's fantasy value in our lineups.

[B]

Correct. Well, that's a good way to segue to my second burning question of week two. Two. I'm going to name you a backfield and you tell me yay or nay to playing anybody from this backfield in week two.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

See? High. And I mean when I say yay or nay, like let's just reasonably. Let's just call that a top 25 back.

[C]

Okay. Okay.

[B]

Because if you're in a 16 team league, you might be playing retired players. Okay, Seahawks, let's start there.

[C]

No.

[A]

Nay.

[C]

I'm at 32 and 34.

[B]

I would agree.

[C]

So I would.

[B]

My preference is to not play a Seahawks.

[A]

Agreed.

[B]

Kansas City Chiefs. No references as well.

[C]

Sorry, I already broke the rule. I already said the wrong word twice. You say words wrong. No. Nay.

[B]

Whatever. Yay or nay.

[C]

Nay. Not. No.

[B]

Don't worry. I am the king of screwing up. Small, simple things. Patriots. Yay or nay.

[C]

I have Henderson at 26.

[A]

I was going to say that's.

[C]

Honestly, we talked about this earlier in the week. Ideally, nay. I mean ideally, he's on your bench but where you draft him, you might want to throw him in your flex spot. It might, just might. Your roster might be constructed that way and that might be okay.

[B]

This might be me trying to manifest something which in the past has worked out very poorly for me here on Fantasy Focus, but does feel like a little bit of the pressure has been turned up on New England to like play the kid, man. Like it's, it's completely useless. Like it's, it's. Sorry, that's too strong. It's not completely useless, but it's logical to have this kid playing whatever it was. 40% of the snaps to Ramandre 60 as opposed to the invert.

[A]

My hope is too against this Dolphins team that they're able to get rolling because this. I don't have a lot of faith in this.

[C]

It happens sometimes. It's not, it's not like it's over for him. Like, I'm like my, my panic level on like Matthew golden versus Henderson is way different. Much more panic on golden being startable Henderson. I mean, with all the passing game.

[B]

Yeah. Like, good for him.

[C]

He's still borderline after being smoked in the touchdown or in the snap department last week. And he should only play more. And we've seen, we see this from young running back.

[B]

He's a good buy low candidate. Along those lines, sure. I know the answer to this. I think you guys are both going to have the same answer. But I just wanted to bring it up because he wasn't. We didn't discuss this team much last week. New York Giants, yay or nay?

[C]

I would say I did. Well, I would see.

[B]

Right.

[C]

I have Tracy 21, so I guess he would be a borderline. Yeah, I feel pretty good about him.

[B]

Yeah. I mean for now. For now. It is not a committee in New York.

[A]

It's not. I just don't like the backfield.

[B]

That's fine.

[C]

It's another good.

[B]

It's. It's. This is a cam Scatter Boo. Maybe it's because of the preseason time missed. Maybe it's because Tyrone Tracy is the incumbent. I don't know what the reasons are, but like, it's very clearly Tyrone Tracy over camp. Scatter Boo for now.

[C]

Yeah. And it is the same kind of scenario where Scatter Boo his role should increase as the. The year goes on. But I'm not sure that's happening this week. So that's why I still have Tracy as a fringe top 20 option. Definitely a RB2 flex. Yeah.

[B]

But the reason why I think the Scatter Boo to Tracy thing is different than some of like the young player versus more veteran players is like Tracy's good. Like he played well last year and he was like, I think he's fine. Like I'm not concerned about him compared to some of the other backs that we have discussed. Pittsburgh Steelers, yay or nay.

[C]

I play, I'm still going to go. Warren, he did score and I think his role, I think like sometimes. And look, we've been shocked by this kind of stuff before. I cannot imagine Kenneth Gainwell is going to remain a featured running back in this offense.

[B]

Only one coordinator could do. Yes, correct.

[C]

I mean he was a backup in Philly for so long. Like I just can't imagine them really thinking he's moving the needle.

[A]

Just wait until they sign Cordero Patterson. And now it's a three headed committee without Caleb Johnson.

[B]

Last one here, quickly. A or nay Texans I do not.

[C]

Want to play would be the choice. Maybe a non PPR if you're desperate for your flex, but that's it.

[B]

There you go. So the three teams that made the cut were the, the Giants most declaratively the Steelers and the Patriots with Jalen Warren and Travion Henderson. Respectfully, by the way. It was definitely respectfully as well.

[C]

Yeah, by the way, it was like bad enough the teams are moving more to like backfield duos now where you have teams that are just like, we're just going to use four tailbacks this week, maybe five with the fullback. Like stop it, don't need it, don't care about us.

[B]

I mean the NFL doesn't care about us when they have a week 14 by with players like Christian McCaffrey and Malik Neighbors unavailable.

[C]

But we're again, we're not talking about, we don't care about their win loss record here. We're talking about fantasies.

[A]

Right? And we care.

[C]

Stop.

[B]

All right, Michael, you are up next, my friend.

[C]

All right, next up, let's talk about the New Orleans Saints. Are we trusting anyone in this offense other than one Alvin Camara? We're starting him obviously.

[A]

But anyone else, there's one guy and trust is a strong word, but there's one guy that I would consider so.

[B]

So the only reason that we're not trusting Joanne Johnson is that Joanne Johnson is a good player but not like an established great player in this offense does not have a quarterback that has earned our trust. Yet every metric from last week tells you that Joanne Johnson is unequivocally startable.

[C]

Yeah, he's on, he's on the fringe. And by the way I look back to late last year because I, you know, Spencer Rattler was playing late last year. John Johnson now is 12 plus fantasy points in three straight games, all with Spencer Rattler and five of his last eight tracing back to last year. So this is a trend that has picked up, you know, going into last season. The problem is the quarterback efficiency is horrendous here. And this kind of I'm going to bulk all these all three guys together because last week you look at the target volume, you're like, this is great. Chris Olave, 13 targets. Juan had 11 or she Cheetah, nine. So you're thinking have to start those guys. I mean they're very talented and that's a lot of volume. Those 33 targets combined resulted in 163 yards and no touchdowns in that game. I mean Spencer Rattler's career efficiency is terrible. It was not any better last season or last week. Excuse me. So I, I, Olave and Shahid, I've ranked 39th of 46. I don't think I want to start either of those guys. Maybe olave in a 12 team league flex, something like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Johnson, I have a tight end 14, so he's borderline actually up to 11 after you remove Goddard and, and the Thursday night guys. I think your only hope with Juwan here is is he this year's John who Smith? You know, a guy that's like later in his 20s and maybe now he turns the corner and he just sees an enormous amount of volume this season and makes that leap into the weekly tight end one conversation. Maybe that's what you're, you're hoping for and I'm not.

[B]

And this, this, this, this is a metric that has failed us previously. So I'm not saying it's ironclad and the Saints definitely have some curious spending habits, but it is. Signed him to a 3 year, $30.75 million contract. This is not a 2 total known. Coming out of nowhere and having a decent start or a very good start to the NFL.

[C]

I'm glad he said 30.75 because if it was 6, 5. Oh, like if he just rounded down to 30 million three years there I would have been like, I'm not drafting that.

[B]

I'm not picking three years, $30.67 million. No, I say that once.

[A]

Was he a former wide receiver or is he a former basketball player?

[C]

One of those two state. Okay. Tight ends are one of them.

[A]

Tight ends are either a former basketball player or a former wide receiver.

[B]

He was a transfer before the transfer. Transfer portal existed. Like he waited his turn at Penn State and then Oregon. Like he had to sit out for a season. Juan's a talented guy.

[C]

Yes, he is.

[A]

You're all right, guys, I'm gonna light the fuse here on this one, but do you really think Patrick Mahomes Is a top 10 quarterback without his top two pass catchers?

[B]

Hold on. Maybe. But I'm glad you brought this up because I was going to find a way to interrupt it and talk about something that the three of us discussed yesterday. So Xavier Worthy returned to practice yesterday.

[C]

He did.

[B]

Limited capacity.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

I, you know, we don't know whether he is going to play on Sunday. I think the odds are probably unlikely, but it's possible. Like it hasn't been ruled out at the time that the three of us are.

[A]

Anything is possible.

[B]

So I do want to have the conversation through two different lenses. Like with Xavier Worthy and without. And the risk that Xavier Worthy runs if he plays is if he takes a big hit and that thing pops back out, that shoulder pops back out, he might be gone.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Whether he's. Yeah. Whether that's returning Sunday, returning next week, the week after, eight weeks from now, whenever it is like there is a long window in which recidivism.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

It's still possible. So do I think it's still. Do I still think Patrick Mahomes is a top 10 quarterback with or without a Xavier Worthy? I. Do you know why? He was running for his damn life.

[A]

So I'm glad that you said that. Let's talk about that. Because he scored 11.7 fantasy points via of the run. That was the second most number of fantasy points using his legs of his entire NFL career since the start of 2024. Just looking at what he's done recently, he, like, he doesn't run that much. He averages closer to 25 rushing yards. If he had an average rushing day, he would have been quarterback 15, give or take on the week. So do you think, and you've used this term before field. Do you guys think that this rushing upside that we saw in week one is sticky enough to propel him up to that point, knowing that he's very likely going to be without. In my estimation, Rasheed Rice and Xav, you're Worthy here in week two?

[C]

Yeah, I think there's two things. First of all, I obviously, I'm not going to project that same amount of rushing. Of course, if he's at that level, you expect some regression. But I do think he'll run A little more than we're used to for a variety of reasons. Also they're playing the Eagles and remember he did a lot of damage and garbage time against the Eagles last time they played in the super bowl because he had to throw it against a good football team. And I think that's going to happen again this week. The running game is nothing, as we just talked about. That's not a threat. We're not worried about that. So. So this is a pass heavy offense. He's obviously super talented. He's going to have to throw a lot. The Eagles have some issues on the defense, defensive side of the football as.

[B]

We saw zero sacks, one quarterback hit last.

[C]

Yeah, and that was, that was a. I mean man, I'm, I'm an Eagles fan and Eagles fans did not want to hear that. I mean I that fan base coming at me in the off season because how could you doubt. Well, if they lost all those players in the front seven and they have a clear hole in the number two cornerback spot and that almost crushed them. CD Lamb could add 200 yards in that game if they, if he didn't drop three passes open. So there was there. There's a lot of opportunity here for Mahomes to make plays, throw potentially 40 passes, run for 30 yards and a touchdown like there. There's a lot of potential here for him to produce. So yes, my answer is I think he's a fringe top.

[A]

All right, you've got him as top five field. You've got him at six, I've got him at nine. I think that he has a better chance to be outside the top 10 than he has a chance to be inside the top 10.

[B]

This sounds like a board bet. Yeah.

[A]

I don't know if we're doing board bets.

[B]

No. You know what? Kyle Sappi, the legendary Kyle Sapi. We love Kyle so much. Did keeping track of our very, very small number of board bets we have been making so far. So we love the guy in the I do love Kyle. In the interest of content I say Patrick Mahomes is inside the top 10 of quarterbacks in Week 2.

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See mintmobile.com and I say Patrick Mahomes is outside the top 10 at quarterbacks in week two. And Mike says he is exactly quarterback 10 in week.

[C]

I'll take it put on the board.

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Mike gets two if he's exactly top 10.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

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So both Daniel and I lose.

[A]

All right.

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Next to you.

[A]

You got the next one feel Jates.

[B]

Here we go. Are we starting the guys who kind of got traded for each other this off season, but not exactly. Meaning Justin Fields and Aaron Rodgers.

[C]

Fields one of them. I will.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We are starting Justin Fields this week. Yay. Right? Yay. All the way around. Justin fields, a top seven quarterback for me, six for Mike, five for Daniel. Of course. Fields had two rushing touchdowns this past weekend. He had the 14 rushing attempts.

[A]

That rush sticky.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

And that, that is the rushing we continue to expect. The Bills had zero answers for the much, much, much, much souped up version of Justin Fields. That being, of course, Lamar Jackson. But Fields was spinning that thing too, as well. He was throwing the ball very, very well. So we're all aligned. Justin Fields inside lineups. They this week. You guys buying the Aaron Rodgers performance? Yay or nay. No, I've been using yay or nay too much.

[C]

I did it again. I keep forgetting.

[A]

Yeah. Yay or nay.

[C]

No, no, I'm just thinking. I'm not thinking about the game. I'm thinking about the, the actual, the actual prognosis for Rogers.

[B]

Rogers quarterback 17. You guys both have him outside your top 25. Yes.

[C]

Nowhere close.

[A]

I would not start him this week. I think that when you look at Aaron Rodgers and I said this on Sports center on Tuesday when. Sorry about that. But when you look at, you look at Aaron Rodgers, I think that he will help the Steelers football games. Then he will help your fantasy team win football games. He will be a better NFL quarterback than a fantasy quarterback.

[C]

Throw two touchdowns every week and not be good in fantasy much like Joe Flacco because he's not going to run the ball.

[B]

He's going to get.

[C]

You need. You basically need the four touchdowns to pay off as a top.

[A]

But if he, if he protects the football and just has a nice average day, utilizes the defense that they have and the running like I don't think he needs to like the world on fire. Well, that's a great question.

[C]

Three or four touchdowns in the opener. Awesome. Might not happen again this season. Also like it's not like this is a high powered passing game. No.

[B]

Back to back games with four more passing touchdowns.

[C]

No. Do we think Calvin Austin's going to be.

[A]

I was just going to say who else is catching the ball?

[C]

We're going to start.

[A]

Roman Wilson going to come out and.

[B]

Start doing things with zero catches on one target last week.

[A]

Back to back by the way for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Back to back revenge games because it was Aaron Rodgers Week 1 against the Jets. This one is against the Seahawks. So it's DK Metcalf. So we'll see if that gives a little bit of a bump there as well.

[B]

At first I was like wait, who does Aaron Rodgers want to exact revenge upon? Yeah. Then I was like, you know what? Honestly, Aaron Rodgers probably has somebody he wants to exact revenge upon in every single NFL squad.

[C]

Oh yeah, definitely. Okay.

[B]

So in on Rogers, in on Justin Fields. Excuse me, you guys are out on Rodgers. I've got him as quarterback 17. So I am more optimistic than these two jamukes.

[C]

There's just too many quarterbacks in that tier.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Like I call you, I can almost. You can almost justify it because there's so many guys.

[B]

Fair.

[C]

Last one for me is we gotta talk about the 49ers offense a little bit. Cause it's not just no George Kittle. It's also no Brock Purdy this week. And a Mike might not be Juwan Jennings either who did not practice yesterday.

[B]

Second straight day of no practice.

[C]

Yeah. So that's. That's a big concern. So we have to talk about who we are going to consider here because it's not again, it's not just some guys are out, some guys are replacing them. It's also an expectation that we'll see some offensive drop off going to the backup quarterback. So I think we can agree Ricky Piersol, we're locking in shadow last week still had a very good game. I31, I moved him down a little bit. But still wide receiver three on that radar. Juan Jennings, if he plays, I think a 12 team league flex option.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Obviously Christian McCaffrey's locked in. I don't even have to mention him. By far the number one receiver or running back for me this week. And then he might be the number.

[A]

One receiver in that offense.

[C]

Yeah, he might be. And then I'll just give you little stat here and you guys tell me if you're going to stream this guy this week with no George Kittle. After Kittle left last week's game, Jake Tonjas ran 15 routes compared to 12 for Luke Farrell.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Caught the touchdown. But they had a combined 19 yards on four targets in the game.

[B]

No, no.

[C]

Agreed.

[A]

I'm out. And for those reasons, I'm out.

[C]

Yeah, I was watching that last night. So were you?

[A]

Were you?

[C]

A little bit.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

You know what I like to do? I like to watch after the game because I have. I always have a lot of adrenaline and I was furious about Steve Bronze or whatever we're calling him. I'm mad about this. I had adrenaline so I put that on. I always put something on in the background. Family Guy that's on something just to fall asleep to. But I always like to watch them and then like kind of just Google what that company is doing today.

[A]

Yeah, that's like have they materialized in something after their.

[C]

Especially if they're like arrogant or something. Then I'm like I want to see if this guy actually. And.

[B]

And sometimes they are biggest success from Shark Tank probably. Dude wipes.

[A]

Oh, yes.

[C]

Good.

[B]

Got to be near the top. Shout out.

[A]

Yeah, they got to be near the top.

[B]

That's got to be one of the best Shark Tank company.

[C]

That's got to be on the list. I agree with that. All right, I got one more.

[B]

Do it.

[A]

And I'm finally going to tell you guys, I'm trying to speak into existence Larry Fitzgerald level volume for Marvin Harrison Jr. All right. Did he get enough volume in week one to quell the concerns that we had heading into the season? I know we had five catches for seven win yards and a touchdown. 18.1 fantasy points. But he only had six targets again in this game. And it's not like they just blew the Saints out and they turned into a running football team. It was actually much closer than what you have realized. I'm wondering if we needed change our expectations on Marvin Harrison Jr. Depending on what happens here in week two. And do I need to start thinking about him more like he is a devonte Smith or as a Flowers type guy with the kind of volume he's going to get rather than a potential wide receiver one that was drafted as a top five pick in the NFL draft.

[B]

I think we kind of already moved down from wide receiver one coming into the season. He was being drafted as like wide receiver 20, 23, you know. It was interesting though. While we're talking about Wyman Harrison Jr. I stayed here last week to watch the game. We watch right next to the cafeteria. We call it the war room. And middle of the slate, all of a sudden an alarm starts to go off. And everybody was like, oh, crap, is everything okay? We turn around, look, and it's like, is that a fire alarm? No, not the fire alarm. It's a smoke alarm. No gas? No, no, no. It was an alarm that someone claimed Michael Lester Clay set off because Marvin Harrison Jr. Got a wide receiver.

[C]

Screen. Yeah, there you go.

[B]

Let's go, baby. Alarm went off. Yeah.

[C]

So they, Jonathan Gannon must tune into the pod.

[B]

Yeah, he does. Big fan. Big fan of fantasy. Focus.

[A]

So, yeah, six targets.

[B]

Six? I thought it was seven five. Six, six, seven.

[A]

Five catches for six targets.

[C]

It's a 21% target, Cheryl.

[B]

It was just not enough workshop of six, seven. That's a six, seven. No luck.

[C]

I don't know what he's talking about.

[B]

No one knows what six seven means? No, we don't know what it means. There's no definition of it. It's just a term.

[A]

Okay, wait, that's a question or is that a statement to us?

[B]

No, no, I'm telling you, like I did some research on this and nobody knows applicable meaning of 6, 7. We just say it and it's hard to say.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Well, Mike, I say so.

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

What I say is a 21% target share is not going to cut it from Marvin Harrison Jr. To get to his ceiling. So we need that to pick up there. Playing Carolina maybe makes a leap forward this season, but it is funny and I, I, I respect you bringing this up and having this conversation because oftentimes we'll be like at 18 fantasy points in week one. That's great. We're good. You know, it's, we're off and running nothing. Nothing to question. Here it comes. He's breaking out. But you got to look a little deeper. Yeah. You know, and if you look a little deeper, you see the target chair is not where it needs to be. So. So I am projecting. I'm at 26%.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay. I expect him to be closer to that number. But if we go several weeks here and he's sitting at 20%, 21, that's not going to do it. Then we're going to have to move him down.

[A]

Then it's going to start feeling like. Yeah, we're now in a different category with the way that we approach our expectations for Marvin Harrison. All right, new segment. Who's bullish and who's bearish? This is going to be. Mike, you're going to play the Buzz Killington role here with this one.

[C]

Love this.

[A]

We're going to introduce a couple of players that you are different than Field and I on heading into week two from your rankings perspective. And let's start at running back spot. Derek Henry taking on the Cleveland Browns.

[C]

All in right is even good. I don't even.

[A]

Field's got him at three. I've got him at four. You've got him outside the top five all the way at running back seven. What did Derrick Henry do last week to make you drop them all the way to running back seven?

[C]

Well, I, I mean it's, it's the somewhat boom bus nature of his game in terms of these ceiling games. Right. We saw this last year. I have him projected for 18 fantasy points this week. He was under that nine of 17 games last season. And is his role there different this year? Is there anything different about him? I don't.

[B]

Does look somehow more muscular? I didn't know that was possible, but yes.

[C]

Okay, fair point. Also, the Browns did a really nice job against. I know it's different type of running back, but they were playing Chase Brown last week. 57 yards and 25.

[A]

Did you just compare Chase Brown and Derek Henry?

[B]

If you took Chase Brown and his twin brother Sidney Brown and combined them into one person, if you stacked them.

[A]

On in a trench coat, put one.

[C]

On the other shoulders, you'd still be like that's still way smaller than Derek Henry. But anyway, the Browns defense did look like they were better last year. And again, Henry does this. He's going to have these massive spike games and then he's going to be a mid range, you know, a mid range RB1. And that's where I have him. I have a mid range RB1 that's it. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Not only that, there's actually some evidence that the. The Browns have done a good job bottling up. As in good as a relative term. They've been better than most in terms of bottling up Derrick Henry. I've still got him as RB3 because I would be petrified of the possibility of like a 12 carry, 142 yard, one touchdown, first half from Derek Henry. That's always in the bag. Did you guys see what Grant Delpit said? Yeah, I see that.

[C]

I was just going to bring this up and apparently a coach made a comment about it as well.

[B]

I mean, it was that part. But Brown safety was asked, like, how hard is it to tackle Derek Henry? And he was like, not hard. And then the Browns own Twitter account quote, tweeted when Grant. Grant said that with a video of Grant Delpit, like, tackling Derrick Henry really hard, like very forcefully. Must have been last season because it was with Baltimore. And I'm like, okay, like, why would you do this? Like, if, if, if like Tiger woods does not win one tournament, does that mean that the person who beat him in that tournament was a better golfer than Tiger Woods?

[C]

No.

[B]

Like, Derek Henry gets tackled every once in a while. That's not the point. Like, it's hard to do that.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Why?

[C]

And why would you want to make him mad? What are you doing?

[B]

Grounds?

[C]

Like, why do they just constantly do.

[A]

Stuff wrong over under on Grant Delpit getting either truck stick or stiff armed by Derrick Henry in this one. I'll take the over on it happening at least one time looking for him there.

[C]

That's the only reason I feel like I should move him up a few spots because that little extra. Not that he needs to be angry.

[B]

Why?

[C]

What are you doing?

[B]

No idea.

[A]

All right, let's talk about a rookie wide receiver.

[C]

Field.

[A]

You brought him up a little bit earlier in the show, but we got Teto and McMillan. I got him at 20 field, you got him at 21. Mike's got him all the way down at 29, which is a little confusing to me.

[B]

Can I ask you a quick timeout here?

[A]

Sure, go ahead.

[B]

Timeout. Like, is there some sort of, like, I'm at three, you're at seven, five. Like, I got a. We're doing a lot of like, games within the show here. Are we? Are we?

[A]

You want to put something on the Derek Henry.

[C]

I mean, I'll put something on the board, but again, we talked about.

[B]

I don't want to do. I don't want to do three board bets. Back to back to back. I just mean, like, do you have to, like, I don't know, pay me a quarter? I can't do that.

[C]

But metaphorical monopoly quarter.

[B]

Yes, Monopoly quarter, sure.

[C]

I don't care. I mean, this tier is so close anyway. But also, I mean, there was a guy. The reason I'm a little lower here is, I mean, partially, I want to see more from Bryce Young, but also this Arizona defense, I think is, you know, living up to expectations as a potential breakout unit. And there was a guy you texted me about, in fact, on I think Sunday or Monday.

[B]

Billy Johnson. Yeah.

[C]

Will Johnson played very well. And the Arizona actually allowed the fewest fantasy points over expected to receivers in week one. The secondary played well.

[A]

Timeout. Like, that's a great stat. But also, who did they play in week one?

[C]

Who did they play? You tell me.

[A]

The New Orleans Saints. Yeah, right. Like, I recognize there was a lot of volume there, but, like, that's not a passing game.

[C]

I'm just saying they. It was a.

[A]

The numbers don't lie. I'm just saying they.

[C]

You can only beat who you're playing against. It's fair. That's. It's totally fair. But you can only play against the team you're facing. And they were effective. And also, it was a team going into the season that we were like, okay, this could be something. On paper, the front seven looks good. You have a young secondary that could break out. Will Johnson played exceptional. They had to cover Shahid and Chris Olave and shut them down. So I'm just saying the results were there based on what we were hoping for. And I don't know, you know, maybe there's like, Cardinals.

[B]

We do points. I'm still thinking about the game part of this. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. I just don't know that it's a walk in the park matchup like it's been in years past. So that's all.

[B]

I mean, shadowing from Will Johnson last week.

[C]

No.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Knowing that Juwan Johnson tore up that defense, do you think that Jatavian Sanders is a big play for you this week?

[B]

Here was my long shot last week, and he got us, like, five points.

[A]

Chef's long shot, Romeo Dobbs.

[B]

Dobbs. Yeah.

[A]

That felt like a different. You guys play by a different long shot standard than we do.

[C]

Yeah, it seems a little different.

[B]

20% versus 1%.

[A]

Yeah, that's. There's a big difference for us. Speaking of tight ends, one last one here. Kyle Pitts.

[B]

Not buying the hype here, Mike.

[A]

Mike, you've got him at 16 field has him at 10. I've got him at 11. Couple things really quickly before you go into this. Darnell Mooney still limited at practice. We're going to continue to monitor that. Casey Washington, who took over that Darnell Mooney role. Two DNPs in a row while dealing with a concussion, unfortunately. So if we may be thin. And Derek, sorry. Drake London still banged up as well.

[B]

Washington role is more Drake London than Darni. And anyways, they could be healthy. They might not be. Yeah, I think we're going to have. At least. I think we've Drake London. There's a.

[A]

There's a chance that Kyle Pitts could, you know, be the number two pass catcher in this offensive game.

[C]

I have them all projected for now, but if I pull Mooney out of there, Pitts will go up a little bit. I will say this. We have seen this from Kyle Pitts before. He had a touchdown in Week 1 last season. He also had Game 7 for 88 on eight targets, 7 for 65 on nine targets, 4 for 92 and two touchdowns. All this was before Week 9 last season. So we've seen these games and then suddenly he has one catch for seven yards. So a little pause. Also, Minnesota had to face Colson Loveland and Cole comet last week. Three catches, 43 yards. It's a very good defense. So, yeah, I'm not there yet. Yet I'm Pitts. I still think he's a tight end, too.

[B]

Honestly, I can't blame you, Mike. You know why? Because every time he trusts Kyle. Yeah. It's like, oh, I trusted Kyle Pitts and he went 3 for 19.

[A]

I feel like we've got multiple narratives, though, when we talk about the tight end position, because it's like, I can't trust Kyle P. I'm saying the exact same thing right along with you guys. So I don't want to make it sound like I'm speaking out of both sides of my mouth. But then we also say tight end is one of those positions that, like, maybe it just takes the guy four or five years. And we've had a couple of those guys the last couple seasons that have.

[B]

Like Brock Bauer, Sam LaPorta and Trey.

[A]

I know, I know.

[B]

I just thought of something. By the way, I feel like not just me, but like, all of us. And like everybody who I know who plays fantasy football has the quip where it's like, yeah, you know, it's like every time you trust Kyle Pitts, he.

[C]

Goes three for nine.

[B]

Is there anybody in your life who is Like, I'm just telling you, like, every single time that I play Matthew Stafford, he throws for 325 and two touchdowns.

[C]

No, I don't know what it is.

[B]

But I just nail it every time.

[C]

I would love to.

[B]

Spenders.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Cause that's usually how it works. Because I don't. It's like you're throwing darts, but you don't hit your dart shots like that often. That's the thing. Right.

[B]

Those eyes are hard to hit. You know what? I'm taking the different mentality. I'm. I'm like, I'm playing Kyle Pitts and 13 fantasy points are coming.

[A]

I think I also, not that we need to do another board bet, but like, I would think that Kyle Pitts is going to be much better than tight end 16.

[B]

If.

[A]

Let's say that there is no Darnell Mooney right now. You've got him at 16, Mike.

[C]

He'll be like, he'll be around Juwan and John. I'd say he'll probably be 12, maybe 13. Right.

[B]

I want to move him up.

[A]

Oh, look at you, Field Jade Strange. All right, let's dive into our starts of the week for week two. We're going to spin the wheel of punishment. After we get through this week's starts of the weeks, we'll tell you where that finished.

[B]

Fun, fun. Good, clean fun. We'll bring the wheel up here in a second.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

We'll bring the wheel up in a second. Last week, though, field, you came in first place. You had 48.2 total fantasy points. I had 46 and a half total fantasy points. And Mike, you finished with 45.

[C]

So it was so close. It was very close. Greg May so went either way, but. Yep. Tight, tight one. Nice job, though. All within three points.

[B]

Yeah. Okay, I got you.

[C]

I picked Kyler. I did. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, that was good. And it's funny because we obviously, we all had Tedro McMillan. So it was a three person race based on. And there were some absolute abominations. Each of us picked a player who scored exactly 1.5 fantasy points.

[A]

That's disgusting.

[C]

Ours was Jerome Ford switched to Jalen Warren. I would have won if I remember on the show I was like, I want to switch to Warren, but I'll just leave it. Darn it.

[A]

I'm glad you did because I would have lost if you hadn't.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

So should we make our picks for this week?

[A]

Yeah, let's do the picks. Why don't we let Mike go first, seeing as how he came in last last week.

[B]

Yeah, and a reminder, we might have the same picks. There's nothing that precludes Daniel and I from both having, you know, whatever. Lamar Jackson is our QB this week.

[A]

There is something to preclude.

[B]

The rules are as follows. A quarterback outside the top eight in the consensus ranks, a running back outside the top 15, a wide receiver outside the top 20 and a tight end outside the top five.

[A]

Top five seems too low.

[B]

We might adjust.

[C]

Yeah, we gotta adjust. Things settle. We'll get a good feel for where we're gonna go. Okay. My picks are. I'll just fly through these. Quarterback. I'm going back to oil with Drake. May going against Miami. You know, it didn't play great last week, but I still think we can get more out of his legs. Miami allowed 29 and half fantasy points to Daniel Jones, so I think May gets back on track. Running back didn't do it last week. I'm doing it this week. Jalen Warren. Against Seattle we saw too much Kenny Gainwell, but I think that changes a little bit. This week Seattle also allowed 33 fantasy points to Christian McCaffrey and company. So Warren, he's the guy this week wide receiver. Everyone wants to say, Daniel included. This guy, he's coming back to earth and he will to some extent. But Zay Flowers staying in there. We're rolling with Zay Flowers against the Cleveland Brown. They had a really good effort last week against the Bengals receiver. So that makes me a little nervous. But Flowers has these spike weeks here and there, so I'm going to stick with him. And then tight end again. Everyone's on the Harold fan and bandwagon. David and Joku still hanging around. Super talented. This is a guy that averaged A bazillion targets 8.2 per game last season. Still ran more routes. What?

[B]

A bazillion targets A bazillion.

[C]

That's a stat. That's a hashtag stat. Hashtag analytics still ran 36 routes to Harold. Fan is 30. Last week Baltimore also allowed a ton of fantasy points to Dalton Kincaid and the Bills tight end. So in Joko it is so May, Warren, Flowers and Joku. We're getting it done.

[A]

I love that Mike Clay, good luck in the lineup.

[B]

Actually, no good luck, but.

[A]

Yeah, no good luck to you. But good luck to you.

[C]

Yeah, now you guys have to root against those four guys. So. Yeah, sorry, I didn't have any of them.

[A]

Did you have any of those guys?

[B]

I did, yes. So do you want me to go now?

[A]

Yeah, why don't you go?

[B]

Because you my quarterback is Drake May and I don't want to be too harsh and overreacting to every single player, but if it doesn't happen for Drake May this weekend and we don't see. Put it this way, if Drake May has a big game throwing the football, yep, happy. If he has a big game throwing the football and has some design runs, thrilled would be the answer. If neither of those things happen, then we could be in for a come down on Drake May's value as a fantasy.

[C]

By the way, really quick three scrambles, one read option. I watched. Yeah, I watched what they did with him there. So one was a read option. So that's at least something.

[B]

It's better than the first 15 weeks of last season when he had zero design win. My running back is Javante Williams for the Dallas Cowboys who should see a ton of the volume of the Giants this week. Game script should be favorable to them as well. Even if Javante is not this dynamite player. Plenty of volume in that Cowboys backfield. Lots of volume last week for Keenan Allen who I think has settled in comfortably into that wide receiver two role for the Chargers. Even though it's wide receiver three in terms of snap at snaps, he is the second most trusted wide receiver at work for Justin Herbert's he And of course lad McConkey. And then finally the aforementioned Kyle Pitts is my start of the week for all the reasons that we just discussed. If there is no Darnell Mooney, he could well be second in line in targets for the Falcons. They play the Vikings on Sunday Night Football as Mike referenced.

[A]

All right. I also don't have any of those players. Okay, so we've got one overlap and that's Drake May between you guys, right?

[C]

All right. That's fun.

[A]

I almost had Drake May as my quarterback but I decided to pivot and instead I decided to go he's now quarterback eight after we pull Thursday Night Football. He wasn't beforehand for what?

[C]

Cheating?

[A]

Okay, but it's Justin Herbert. I love the matchup against the Raiders. You just mentioned it. With that all the wide receivers that they have in that offense, I think Justin Herbert is going to throw the ball a bunch. Love that Raiders matchup. My wide receiver is going to be Ricky Pearsall. No George Kittle. Juwan Jennings has not practiced yet this week. We'll continue to see how that works out and we saw that Mac Jones could elevate the value of his number one wide receiver in Brian Thomas Jr. I am not saying that Ricky Pierce all is Brian Thomas Jr. But better I'm just saying that he is going to be able to find his guy. I think his guy is going to be Ricky Pearsall at the running back spot. I'm going to go to the well and take my guy home Opener David Montgomery Vikings running back smashed Last week one of the things that they did against the Chicago Bears. Bears were really bad at tackling. Allowed the third most yards after contact per rush. That's sort of what Monty's game is built on. I think at home Detroit's going to want to get back to the game that they didn't get to have in Green Bay in week one. So I'm going to take David Montgomery. Think he gets in the end zone there. Gimme an anytime touchdown for David Montgomery and the last one is going to be Juwan Jennings. Excuse me, Joanne Johnson Just the volume. Volume and game script. Do I think the Saints will be down again? You can ask me that question basically every single week. My answer will always be yay.

[C]

Yay.

[A]

Well used.

[B]

Well used term, right?

[A]

That's right. So I'm just going with game script right now until I see something different. Juwan Johnson I think is just going to be heavily utilized as a tight end and if you give me seven to eight plus targets at the tight end spot, I'm thinking I'm going to go good spot.

[B]

Hard to argue with that logic right there.

[A]

So yeah, Justin Herbert, Ricky Petersol, David Montgomery and Juwan Johnson, those are my starts of the week.

[B]

If you guys had to make a survivor pick of the week, do you have one?

[C]

I do and now I forget who I picked.

[B]

I had the Broncos last week.

[C]

I know I might have.

[B]

It was certainly actually I had the Bengals last week.

[C]

I did the Bengals.

[B]

Bengals. That was risky but I am burning.

[C]

I'm burning the Ravens this week. Yep, that's a big one is to use this early in the season. They are playing the Browns home.

[B]

Right there.

[C]

That's tricky.

[A]

This is a tough one. I'm looking through the matchups and I.

[C]

Got the Bills and playing at the jets this week.

[A]

I think I take the Rams.

[C]

We didn't prep for this at all. 49ers going Rams against the Rams are.

[B]

My pick as well. Liked some of the stuff that I saw from Cam Ward. I absolutely love, love the mentality of Camm. This is going to be really, really good. We'll talk about that for fantasy when the time comes. But just a straight NFL thought a love Cam Ward's headset.

[C]

I get nervous about picking a road team in Survivor Yeah, I always try to lean the home team. So fair. We'll see.

[A]

All right, well, we're at the point of the show, Mike, where you get to spin a wheel, come up with a fantasy punishment. Our young field Yates is going to pick this thing up. We got a wheel with a bunch of punishments from our YouTube chat. Shout out to you guys as well for making sure that we had a bunch of different options for our weekly punishments.

[B]

Whoever wrote on the wheel has excellent handwriting.

[A]

Yeah, great handwriting writing.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That is our stage right there.

[B]

Handwriting.

[C]

Okay, so I intentionally didn't even look at this, so I don't even know what's on here. So give it a hefty spin.

[A]

Hefty spin here from Mike Clay. For those listening at home, we stopped at jersey from the winner's choice.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

All right. You gotta wear a jersey that field and I choose to the show next to yourselves.

[B]

I win. Or did we win?

[A]

I think we does.

[C]

He picks.

[A]

Oh, that's great. Yeah. Your winner's choice. You're right.

[C]

But you guys can consult and.

[A]

No, no. Well, I just thought you're right. I wasn't the winner. I just also wasn't the loser.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So I got confused.

[C]

Has to be one that exists, right?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Or do I have to spend.

[B]

I will not be removing my Jake Bobo jersey from the case, so it's not going to be that. Although Bobo is cleared to practice now, which could mean good things for the Seahawks. Not yet lost a game this year in which he has been on the field. Okay, so when do I bring this jersey in and when do you want to wear it?

[A]

Wednesday? Thursday? Friday? One of those days.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Whenever you're feeling like it. Hey, I'm the one being punished. You guys decide.

[B]

I have a very random assortment of just jerseys, so I may need. I have my jerseys. I know what I'm bringing. I'll make my. It will mean something to me. It will mean nothing to Mike.

[A]

It doesn't have to be. For what it's worth, I think wrestlers, I mean, that singlet is their jersey. You know what I mean? So, like, maybe that's what we have, you know? Yeah.

[B]

Uniform, winner's choice.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

As long as it's not shirtless. Because we don't want to punish the viewer. We don't.

[A]

I texted our producer last night, so they showed one of the packers fans that had, like, you know, body paint on. Like, I was like, maybe that's one of our punishments. You have to do a shirtless body paint show.

[C]

Did you see the jacked guy. They showed.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

He was like, oh, my.

[B]

At first I thought that was a guy who was wearing a suit of a Jax person.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

And then I was like, that's a real Jack Human. Yeah. Great crowd shots last night. Lambo was rocking.

[A]

Lambo was rocking. Of course, if you're a Packers fan, you wouldn't you be on cloud nine right now after the first?

[B]

I would be. Yes. I would be.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Shout out to our buddy, Thirsty Kyle Sofi. Go for you, man. Love the Green Bay packers for you. All right. That's going to do it for us. Not for myself. Not as a Lions fan.

[B]

No.

[A]

I think all of us in our Michigan men group were like, oh, shoot, this wasn't a one week thing. This is not what we wanted. All right, come watch us on fantasy football now on Sunday morning, 10am to 1pm Helping you get everything you needed to set your lineups heading into week two. But that's going to do it for us today. If you want to listen to the first part of our preview, head on back to the Thursday show and shout out to our buddy Eric Moody, who has been in chat. You can follow him at Eric and Moody over on social media.

[C]

Well said.

[A]

Don't forget to love each other. Be kind to yourself and good luck here in week two. We'll see you guys on Sunday. You're in the six zero one zero, focus fantasy. Fantasy focus.

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