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You're in the.
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What'S good friends? Welcome into Fantasy Focus Football alongside Stefania Bell and Field Yates. My name is Daniel Dopp and we have a huge show. Oh, wait, sorry. We just had another block kick that happened this week. It just came in now across the waiver wire. Hey, hey.
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Wow.
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What happened in week three? Seriously Insane.
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Insane. Yeah.
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Well, we're going to dive into a bunch of different things today. We got our Monday morning blitz recapping a bunch of stuff that happened. We're going to give you our biggest takeaways as well as I think we're far enough into the season, we can start deciding whether or not things are trends or not trends. I mean, three weeks is a big enough sample size so we'll dive into some studs and duds as well. But I think we need to kick the thing, kick this thing off the right way because now that Mike Clay's not here, let's talk about the Philadelphia Eagles. Hey, what a win.
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They're so resilient, guys. 19 points down, they don't blink a bit. Not at all. Back and winning in miraculous fashion by seven points.
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Dude, I mean, listen, there's. We were talking before the show about the special teams play. Their special teams play was phenomenal.
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Unbelievable.
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Phenomenal.
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Yes, they certainly did get everything the Rams could handle. The Rams give them everything they can handle, I should say. And yet the Eagles still find a way to win their 19th game in 20 tries. I believe the only game the Eagles have lost in their last 20 is a game in which Jalen Hurts left early due to injuries.
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Oh, really?
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To say this team is a well oiled machine and they have a great test in Week 4 against the Buccaneers, who are also 3.
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And oh yeah, he dominated in this one. One of the things that we had said is like maybe we can get the pass catchers involved finally in this one. Well, guess what, we see you. Jalen Hurts dominated one, by the way. He was still quarterback two on the week so far. Probably be quarterback four by the time we get through Monday Night Football, obviously.
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But Jared Goff.
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Jared Goff and Lamar Jackson.
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Oh, sorry, Lamar, I forgot about.
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That's right. Yeah, Lamar Jackson's the other one. However, it wasn't just being able to him him utilizing his legs. He found the end zone three times with his arm. Being able to find A.J. brown finally unlocked that. Ten targets, six catches for 109 yards and a touchdown. Devonte Smith found the end zone as well. This is why I said last week I'm not panicked about Eagles wide receivers. You go through these spells, there's such a run heavy team field. This isn't going to happen week in and week out. But this is what they can give you when they are firing on all set.
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Well, there is one good thing that takes place for the pass catchers when Saquon Barkley dominates, which is that eventually defense is saved. We're going to have to our balance and Saquon Barkley is seeing more eight man boxes than any other back in the NFL right now. So that should in theory open up more opportunities for these pass catchers to have big days. It took a little while to get going. Philly just came out of this game kind of methodical, a little bit stuck in the mud. It was a quiet first half for Philadelphia, kind of across the board. It's a 60 minute game though and AJ Brown really took over in the second half. It was a reminder of why. Yeah, he's just. He actually said it after the game basically like, you know, not trying to toot my own horn too much but basically like good things happen when you throw the ball my way. They certainly did as he was incredible yesterday. AJ Brown performed every bit like the player that the Eagles paid. Not just a first round pick to acquire, but in the second contract they gave him $33 million per year. He was amazing.
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He was amazing. Devonte Smith, like I said, nine targets, eight catches for 60 yards also finds the end zone.
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It was great.
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It did kind of come at the expense of Saquon Barkley. Saquon fell under 10 fantasy points. Unfortunately in this one the Rams sold.
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Out for him, right?
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That's absolutely right.
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The Rams won that battle.
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Wouldn't you also like I would stop Saquon first.
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Shout out to Sao Paul Antonio Titan Whisperer. If you watch fantasy football now, he said could be a Dallas Goddard game. And we saw Dallas Goddard who had missed the week before with a knee injury. We felt good about him coming into the game and he proved that he was right there for Jalen Hurts.
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He found the end zone for the Eagles I believe. First score of the game. They kind of got things rolling there. So a huge, huge win for the Eagles. They are now 33 and oh, in some ways they kind of needed a game like that to be reminded that they can win in multiple ways. And also like other teams are going to probably say to themselves a little bit of if we can do to the Eagles what the Rams did in the first half, yeah, maybe we can find a way to not just make so many second half errors like the Rams did and we can try to win this game. But like I think teams are having to decide right now would you rather lose by Saquon Barkley going nuts or Jalen Hurts having a remarkable passing day. I think with a moment of truth to him, a lot of defensive coordinators are saying we're more comfortable with Jalen Hurts picking us apart. Yep, the Rams figured out what the downside of that decision is, but a good day for the Eagles passing offense. They were great again. They play the Bucks next week. So if the Bucs can move the ball like they have at times this year could mean a lot more of AJ Brown and Devontae Smith in Week four.
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Yeah, a lot of offense, which was very exciting for us in the Eagles. Let's talk about another game that I thought there was going to be a lot of offense for and there kind of was, but not in the way that we had expected at field J. I'm unfortunately talking about the Dallas Cowboys and Chicago Bears. CD Lamb unfortunately leaves early in this one. Can we talk about your takeaways? Oh my gosh, you're right. This is a thing. We just talked about this.
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Yeah, it was good.
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We're working our way around. I thought we were sharing a note again, so why don't we give one.
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Of yours if we redrafted today for the rest of the of the season? Jonathan Taylor is going at worst third overall. He might go first overall. Unbelievable.
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You know what he looks like? He looks like the guy that I drafted first overall in the War Room league a few years ago that I thought was going to win me my league. And then he had an injury that took him out for the rest of the season. He is now playing like that guy again and the opportunities are there for him as well.
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Yeah. Other options to consider for number one overall, of course include Jameer, excuse me, Bijan Robinson and Christian McCaffrey. Jameer Gibbs pending Monday Night Football. Puka Nukua. We'll talk about him more in a little bit, but Jonathan Taylor is first in running back fantasy points at exactly 75 for the season that's 25 per game. He had three touchdowns yesterday. He had 20 opportunities. The Colts offense is punted once in three games. Once. And I know that the Titans didn't play like it yesterday. It's pretty good defense. Titans actually gave the Rams some fits when they played a couple of weeks ago. Like the Titans have been better defensively than what they showed yesterday. But Taylor has been amazing. This run scheme is terrific. The fact that Daniel Jones can run as well changes the geometry of how defenses can approach the Colts running game. He's been great. We obviously know Jonathan Taylor is a major talent. He was the face of fantasy football just a few years ago. But for a guy that didn't get that much preseason hype. Not like we ignored Jonathan Taylor. But we were so focused in on that core. Four to five players at the very top and four to five running backs, including Ashton Genti and Christian McCaffrey. It turns out there was no room whatsoever for Ashton Genti in that conversation. And there should have been plenty of room for Jonathan Taylor. The Colts play the Rams next weekend. But he has been nothing short of brilliant.
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He's been fantastic. One just little fun fact off what you mentioned about the punt. We hadn't seen the Colts punter, so we. We weren't sure if he still played for the team. One combined punt and turnover for the Colts through three games. That is that record has. That has held up since 1950.
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Wow.
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So that is the first time since 1950 that a team's gone through three games with one turnover. That's crazy. Think of how many turnovers we saw in Sunday Night Football just this week alone.
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Yes.
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So a lot of those. That's for sure. So.
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So that means offense on the field. That means long drives. That means great for fantasy points and sustained drives with Jonathan Taylor. Awesome.
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I think Daniel Jones also has become a set it and forget a quarterback. Like with what you had just said, the relationship between how they're utilizing the quarterback on that. But yes, the running back. We'll dive in a little bit later. All right. Good to know that we're on the same page. Field. Stefania, how about you give us a takeaway that you had from week three?
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Why do I have to be the downer? But I am. I pick. Yeah, I know. I pick them. And so I. The things that stand out to me is always when there's a big injury and there was maybe nothing bigger than James Connor going down yesterday. So the Cardinals are in trouble. In. In general. The Cardinals started strong. They were two and oh, coming into yesterday's game against San Francisco and then James Connor who we talked about before the season as like the guy that you want to draft because he's just been so consistent, quietly consistent, a preferred target for Kyler Murray out there. And he's been on the field, I mean since his early in his career health issues. He's been incredibly durable. Then unfortunately gets caught up with this nasty looking twisting injury. The defender landing on his ankle. You knew immediately when you see everybody come on the field, you see the cart come out and, and he looked pretty dejected. And now reports that it, it was a serious ankle injury. Listen, we knew it was serious by everything that happened but his knee was so torqued that it could have been a knee, could have been an ankle, could have been both ankle injury. Apparently that will require surgery and that's all we know at this point. But I would say you need to make other plans.
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Adam reporting that it's going to be a season ending ankle injury for him.
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Those other plans could be Trey Benson.
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Right. And that was if you're going to take, if you're going to spin it forward, something positive is that Trey Benson look the part. Trey Benson very sad last night talking about how James Connor has mentored him and he certainly had time to do that because we haven't seen Trey Benson have a role but felt like he could step. We've talked about him being the a clear insurance back where there are so few of those. That is what Trey Benson will be and he will be there to step up and be the number one back. My other takeaway from that game, Marvin Harrison Jr. Wow. Just a disappointment. And, and part of that listen he three catches for 44 yards. He was targeted six times. One was just this horrible drop. I almost wanted to go out and give him a hug because he was wide open. If he catches that ball, he turns and it's a score for him. I mean we all wanted to give him a 49ers fan so I didn't really. I wanted to give him a hug for like thank you for not, not catching it.
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But also I feel bad for him.
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So like. Well and then I watched him in his press conference with the reporters game and there's no he's not hiding from it but he just seemed completely dejected. And you wonder is that like is now it's going to get in his head like the it's not been great. And does I feel like this is a big pivotal point for Marvin Harrison Jr. Does he like get a fire under him and this changes. They need him. Or does he. Is he just going to sort of wither into a lack of confidence?
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Yeah, I can't speak to that part. I can just speak to the fact that he's got a pedestrian target chair. He has been average on tape for a year and three games now.
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Yep.
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And there is zero chemistry between him and his quarterback. So for all the name value, he is not a lineup lock in week.
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Four that supposedly they worked out in the off season and talked about. Well, but it was Marvin Harrison Jr. Who brought it up, who said that he felt like it had enhanced their re, you know, chemistry and relationship. And listen, when you've only been there one year, I'm at least going to believe that that's a possibility. But I'm not seeing it.
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I don't. I just don't think that Marvin Harrison Jr. Is going to be who we thought he was. I think that's where we're at because.
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I've watched going down Kyle Pitt's path.
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Yeah, you saw.
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I know people will say he had the thousand yards as a rookie. That's.
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That's great.
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Absolutely clear. I'm talking about years two through correct. At least four with Kyle Pitts. He's been a little, little better in year five. That's also because tight end stinks in fantasy. But yeah, it's been a very inauspicious start for Martin.
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I just remember that there was a. There was a time with Kyler Murray where they had DeAndre Hopkins and Hollywood Brown and Kyler Murray force fed Hollywood Brown. He was wide receiver one in targets. And then as soon as DeAndre Hopkins came back, DeAndre Hopkins put up a fantastic second half of the season. We've watched him be able to get his number one wide receiver involved. Things are just not bottom line.
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Marvin Harrison Jr. Is in boomer bus territory.
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It feels not great, unfortunately. All right, now I'm going to do my second one. So sorry for the false start on that one. There were a lot of penalties on me. But CD Lamb, Stefania, I feel like I have to start with you with this one. Unfortunately, CD Lamb exit early and then that opened up a bunch of opportunities for other people in this Cowboys passing game. But what can you tell us about CD Lamb knowing that he left so early in the game?
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Yeah, it was weird. It was on a running play.
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Yeah.
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Which you're not expecting from CD Lamb. And then he got caught. A defender coming in and it was just a bad luck play. Was not, you know, somebody had. So I Didn't see it when it initially happened and somebody thrown out. The hip drop tackle thing, I watch it. It was not. It was just. But what I will say is the mechanism of injury was very similar to what you see with a hip drop tackle, which is why those things are banned. But he got his ankle twisted so basically the foot is pointing outwards relative to the lower leg. So a big twisting injury on his ankle. But luckily it appears just, you know, the force vectors being what they are. Sometimes that happens. It devastating injury can be season ending. He actually went out there and tried to play at the start of the second quarter. Went out for one snap. No, it was not pretty. Couldn't put weight through it. He came off the field. But after the game he was saying that he thinks he'll be back this week. That remains to be seen. Sometimes these things are worse the next day. But the bottom line is he escaped, it appears something that could have been far more serious.
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Yeah, when he came off the field, he was just shaking his head like very clearly like, nope, not going to. We're not going to do this. And I actually, we all as fantasy managers should appreciate that. Don't go out there and exacerbate it and make it worse. Right. Dallas Cowboys probably would have loved to be able to have him out there on Sunday. Even though Jake Ferguson and George Pickens turned in great games for us in fantasy. Cowboys really needed CD out there.
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Yeah, Ferguson just an absolute target. Monster, right?
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Unbelievable.
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He has been unbelievable for the past three, I guess the first three games of the season. Even though he has not scored a touchdown since at least the beginning of last year. The volume is so good at the position that we are so desperate for. The Cowboys play next Sunday night against the Green Bay packers, so of course Dak Prescott's outlook will be impacted not just by the potential lack of CD Lamb, but also the fact that it's one of the toughest defenses in the entire league to face.
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If he thought he was under duress against the Chicago Bears, wait until he plays Green Bay next week.
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The Bears came to play though.
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They sure did. I'm going to save my Bears talk for a little later in the show because they had some fun.
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Yeah, they sure did.
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What did it take for the door to open field?
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Ramondre Stevenson Two lost fumbles yesterday including just. You're such an empath.
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I know. And, you know, until I look at.
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My fantasy score, and then you're like, I mean, he just. Ramandre puts the ball on the ground. Two gigantic errors, as we know. Ramandre Stevenson right at the goal line.
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Yeah, right there.
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The Patriots actually had two turnovers inside the five yard line, according to our stats and information group. I think this is the first time the Patriots have done that in the same game in like 58 years. So just, I mean, the Patriots, somehow the Patriots managed to lose that game. It's just mind blowing. But Ramon Dre Stevenson puts the ball on the ground again. I. I've said Ramon Dre played better in week two than any other Patriots running back has played this regular season. I thought he earned the start yesterday. Unfortunately for Ramandre Stevenson, fumbling has been one of his real vulnerabilities in the NFL. So he fumbles twice. Then Antonio Gibson also fumbles. He kind of became that next man up for the Patriots. So the patriots, after those three combined fumbles, had a total of 37 offensive snaps. Of those 37, here's the breakdown. Stevenson played five more snaps, and he had zero rushing attempts.
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Okay.
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Gibson played six more snaps. He had two rushing attempts. Travion Henderson played 26 offensive snaps. That's a good number. Basically, two out of three. Three. He had nine rushing attempts. That's also good. So on paper, you think to yourself, all right, that means that it's time for Trayvon Henderson to become the guy in the Patriots backfield and what feels like a good matchup next week against Carolina. The question I have, though, is after the game, Mike Vrabel talked about how they need Ramon Dre Stevenson. Is this going to be one of those where during the game, you yank the veteran and then seven days later, he's back on the field and still starting? My gut tells me, yes, but for those of us that have a lot of stock of Trayvon Henderson, it wasn't hurt yesterday by the fact the two guys who are either playing ahead of him clearly in the case of Stevenson, or potentially ahead of him in Gibson, both put the ball on the ground. Because there is nothing that drives a coach up the wall more than a running back putting the ball on the ground from a fumble. So maybe a little bit of a stock boost for Travion Henderson. I'm still a little bit cautious going into next.
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Mike Vrabel can go suck a butt for Walt is all I'm going to say. Honestly, you're telling Me that it takes two fumbles from Hermandre Stevenson and even then we're not even going to get the young guy we just drafted with the second round pick is then got to go to Antonio Gibson and then he's got to put ball on the ground before we even get the rookie out there. It feels like they don't want to play him. And then after the game to talk about how they need Ramandre Stevenson. No. Mike Brable. No.
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Yeah, yeah. I get. I'm trying to like cool my head a little bit on this one.
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Okay.
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Stefania, like.
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Stefania, you're too. You're too metered for this right now. There's. This is an emotional game.
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I'm all about the fantasy points from Trayvon. I just, I. I don't want Ramon. I know. Let's all be nice to reminder.
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Okay.
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People go out there, but we're happy Ifion Henderson is starting and carrying the ball.
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That's 14 opportunities yesterday for Henderson. He ended up with 7.7 fantasy points. What's next for you, Stefania?
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Why can't we have nice things in the Bay Area?
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That's a great question.
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My team stay healthy. I'm wearing Read. Very proud of my 49ers for pulling off that win. Separate statement, okay. Why is no one healthy in San Francisco? Why does this incredible pass rusher that we have, Nick Bosa, who is responsible for us just having this electric defense under Robert Sala, who's revitalized the defense there, I mean, they are fired up all the. They're just. He is extracting the best play from a defensive group that sometimes people question. But. But Nick Bosa, we all know about his speed. We all know about what he can do to change defense. He bobbles his right knee and my immediate thought was he was. He was making a right. You know, he's rushing the passer and his right leg got a little bit out in front of him. You just see this little bobble, like a little wobble. Well, that often looks like an ACL injury. That's the mechanism. The foot plants and knee bobbles. Now, he left the game, he didn't return. In fact, he's walking, he's looking up in the stands. Don't know if it was family, whoever. And he gives a thumbs down. Not what you want to see when you're watching at home. But after the game, Kyle Shanahan said they did not think it was his acl, but that he's going for more testing today. So, you know, one hopes that that was not that was not the result of that injury. But I just remind people sometimes we get fooled. Sometimes people do tear their ACL and it doesn't appear to be that way based on early testing. So standby on the Nick Bosa health.
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Okay. Which one? Oh, go ahead, go ahead. I was gonna say the other wide one.
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No, no.
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You got a bunch of names.
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Unfortunately, the new one to add. Brock Purdy doing better. We're happy about that. But Mac Jones got the start yesterday. Mac Jones limping in the fourth quarter wearing a brace on his left knee. Totally stoic performance gets them through that final drive to the win. Mac Jones is banged up. Juwan Jennings ankle and shoulder injuries that kept him out. Some people surprised. I felt like he had too many injuries. They didn't want to put him on the because they didn't want one of them to turn major. But there is one bright spot. Christian McCaffrey who is number three this week so far as far as running back scoring in fantasy points, number two on the season. And knock on whatever wood I can find, Christian McCaffrey still healthy.
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I think there were two bright spots. I mean I thought CMC was great, but I also want to give a little props to Ricky Pearsall second 100 yard receiving game to start the season.
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It was awesome as well. Yeah, I mean and I just. We can't say enough good things about Chris McCaffrey. All detractors during the season. I understood the detractors who were concerned about the health because it certainly can happen. And we were only. We're only 1/6th of the way through the season so we got a long ways to go. But it felt like there was a second faction which was just. He's not the same level of player anymore and he's just an unbelievably remarkable from my perspective, the greatest receiving running back in the history of professional football. And we play PPR scoring. He had 10 more catches yesterday.
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All right, my next takeaway. Jordan Mason absolutely crushed in a super weird game in which the Vikings defense outscored the Bengals offense.
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The Vikings defense I believe going into Monday Night Football is tied for the third most points.
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I don't even mean fantasy points, I mean actual points on the field. They just scored more points. It was crazy. Jordan Mason looked the part though. He obviously got the start with Aaron Jones on ir. Found the end zone twice. Looked like the guy that we talked like he was going to be. Unfortunately didn't get involved in the passing game but he didn't need to because they were up by like 40 points the whole game.
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Yeah, because there's a part of me that saw the box score at first and was like. Because I was wondering how much passing game involvement. He obviously looked great when we were watching him rush and I'm like, wait, zero, like none. And you could say to yourself that might be a bit of a red flag going forward. I do wonder if a little bit of that is just a quirky game flow right to your.
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Although we never were counting on him for being much involved in the pass.
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We weren't. Yeah. We were just, our eyes were open. Like, if he can get like a couple.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, seriously, if he gets two to three catches a game, that's a, that's a season altering outlook for this player. So the fact that he got none, I'm going to chalk up a little bit to the fact that this game was just so, so bizarre.
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I was super pumped that TJ Hawkinson was able to rebound here. We, I was like, not feeling great about the tight end position. We needed something there. So that felt really good. Do you want to save the Bengals talk for later in the show or do you want to talk about that later? But yeah, we got plenty of things to talk about.
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I think that's mostly a burn the tape game for Cincinnati because I was.
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Going to say that was my, my, my next takeaway was the Bengals played like trash.
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It was like.
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It was, it was, it was, it was trash. The Bengals largest margin of defeat, 38 points in franchise history. That's hard to do.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Jake Browning looked terrible. 5.9 fantasy points, 19 of 27 for 141 touchdown, two picks. One of those turned into a pick six by the Vikings defense that you were talking about. Jamar Chase, 5 for 50 receiving, like, still leads the team in target because duh. You know, but awful. Not his fault, really. Just fumble as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just going to say he found ball. Security was terrible. Chase Brown, you know, Jamar Chase's fumble got turned over. Chase Brown also fumbled, but he recovered it 10 carries for 3 yards. That seems wrong.
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Bad.
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I mean, I, I, I'm not trying to, I am not trying to poke the bear, Daniel, but obviously you were a Chase Brown advocate coming into the season. It's just been really disappointing.
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A
I thought there would be more pass catching, I thought there'd be more pass catching to offset the official catches, but.
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B
17 yard, like, not enough right now. They just like the difference from what we were expecting. Now granted, the Vikings defense looked Great. And they got some. You know, they. They had their pass rush back and. But still I was disappointed. I thought Jake Browning would look better in this game.
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You know, it's funny, as I went on last night to check on Pro football reference, where 10 carries for 3 yards rents in terms of. Hold on. Bear with me for a second. Fewest rushing yards in a game in which a player had at least 10 rushing attempts. I think the NFL scored rushing yards and sack yards for quarterbacks differently back then.
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A
Okay.
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C
Because I went. And it turns out that the fewest rushing yards. This is not a joke here. With 10 or more rushing attempts. You want to guess?
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B
I was going to say it was like going to be somebody like that. You would never think. But like Tom Brady for like taking a bunch of knees.
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A
Oh, that's a great point.
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C
Points.
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A
I mean, I. Yeah. So I would say 10 for.
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C
But he would never rush 10 for one.
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B
Yeah.
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C
What's your guess?
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B
It would be negative yards, but I. I don't know. It's going to end up with negative yards. If they had 10 carries. 10 for. Minus two.
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C
Yeah. Because it's not 10 for three. The answer is 10 rushes for negative 68 yards by Sid Luckman.
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B
What? 68? My only like minus two.
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C
Yeah. I really thought. I was like, maybe three is the fewest. So they must have scored. As you guys know. You guys may know college football, when a quarterback, if it's a nine yard sack, he gets a rushing attempt for negative nine yards. So maybe back in the day they scored it differently. But I was not expecting the number to be negative six.
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A
That is really bad. Let me ask you one question and then we'll move on from this Bengals offense. But it was completely uninspiring with Jake Brown under center. They had five fumbles. They had three of them that were lost. They had two interceptions. When you talk about all that.
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C
Yeah.
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A
It just felt like this was just a week to throw out. I don't think it's going to be this bad.
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C
I don't think so either.
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B
By the way, producer Tyler sings in our chat. Like, you know the gif with the little.
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A
The house on fire with the dog in it and it's like, everything's fine, guys. Everything's so bad.
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B
That was hard to be a fan.
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A
It was a lesson in Murphy's Law is what that Bengals game was. Everything that could go wrong did go wrong for Cincinnati.
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C
Rooting for Cincinnati yesterday was sort of like having Brian Thomas Jr. And or Drake London in your lineup yesterday. Let's talk about some wide receivers, the good and the bad is Drake London in what felt like a total smash spot.
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B
I couldn't even watch it.
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C
Carolina Panthers, one of the worst defenses in the league to the first two weeks. Michael Pennix Jr. Was a pick that I had as a top 15 streaming or top 15 quarterback in a streaming option this week. I mean, on paper it seemed like a reasonable matchup. Yeah. And Drake London doesn't even have 10 fantasy points yesterday. He is out targeted by Darnell mooney. Brian Thomas Jr. Did have a big play late in the game for Jacksonville, but under 10 fantasy points, they're two and one right now. So there was no talk after the game about body language or drops. But there was another, I mean, way too many drops from Jacksonville yesterday in a really ugly game against the Texans, which they end up winning and 17 to 10, that's important there. But another uninspiring day for Brian Thomas Jr. Drake London was not great. We haven't talked about him as much because there have been other players who were drafted either right ahead of him or even a few spots ahead of him. But I've had dud weeks as well. Those two guys were tough. Brian Thomas Jr. Will be low, low, low in my rankings next week. They play against Defiance. 49ers positive side here. Couple of wide receivers that really bounce back. We talked about AJ Brown already despite a late fumble that ended up preventing them from tying the game. Nico Collins was awesome yesterday. Nico goes up over 100 yards.
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A
The only one that was awesome.
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C
Yeah, he. And and for all the troubles that the Texans are facing right now and the issues are very deep rooted, they have just a disaster offensive line play. They have no running game. This is being a bit reductive. We're simplifying a little bit, but we're saying out loud like, hey, when you're struggling this much, Pepper, number 12, your best player by far. They did that yesterday. So credit where it's due to Nick Kelly, their offensive coordinator for leaning into Nico Collins. They play the Titans this upcoming weekend. The Titans yesterday were shredded by the Colts Luxurious needs. Been really an up and down player at best. At best since they acquired him via trade last year. So potentially the Nico Collins momentum carries into week four. But he was great yesterday again, putting that fumble late aside.
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A
All right, how about Stefania, you got another one you want to give to us?
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B
I've got one more.
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A
All right, I got one. We all got one more. So why don't you lead us off?
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B
Okay. The rise of Cam Scatterboo that's right. He is here to stay. Look, I've been. I've. I have been loving on Cam Scatter Boo since before the season began. I've said out loud that I felt like he was going to overtake Tyrone Tracy. This is not the way we wanted it to happen. Tyrone Tracy goes out of the game in the first quarter yesterday with a big hit to his shoulder. You know, looked awful, didn't. Didn't come back. And. And you never want to see that be a catalyst. But we had seen Scam Cam Scatter Boot do some things in week two that made us think maybe they were going to lean into more. And then they were forced to last night. 10 for 60 with one rushing touchdown. I mean, it's just, you know how some guys, you just want to watch them play because they just look different. I mean, it's not pretty. The running isn't pretty, but it's like, I'm going to bowl you over. And it's interesting because, you know, we're chatting in the war room as we do, and I, you know, Talking with Booger McFarlane, he's like, Stefania. That kind of play doesn't earn you, like, a long career in the NFL because he is just. Just so physical and a battering ram. And you do worry that that's going to come back to Hunter, but I'm going to ride this wave right now because six catches for 61 yards and when he got close to the end zone, they gave him, you know, the opportunity to get it. Listen, I am all about Camscatter, Boo.
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A
Can I ask field, he went to Arizona State. Is that accurate?
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C
He started at Sacramento State and went to Arizona.
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A
Did he have a lot of touches? Like, does he have a lot of touches on his body coming into the NFL?
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C
He does. Definitely has a lot of tread in the tires. Yes. It's interesting, though. What's really, I think the most interesting part of this entire thing from last night is that nine of the first 13 snaps last night by the Giants offense were carries or targets for Tyrone Tracy Jr. It seemed like their plans were this, for this to be the Tyrone Tracy show last night.
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Yeah.
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C
So injuries can obviously change the complexion of an offense in a hurry. And if this injury is as serious as it seemed and he was in a lot of pain on the chief sideline right away, then Scatterboo is definitely going to be trending up in a hurry. I don't know how much information we'll get on the Tyrone Tracy injury today, but that backfield Definitely looks a whole lot different.
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B
Here's what it felt like to me because Tyrone Tracy's quick and they are just completely different style of players. And I felt like their goal was like, we're going to move this. We're. We're going to move through the Chiefs quickly here and not force it through the air. And that's where Tyrone Tracy was valuable. But you know that I. I still think they probably would have gone to Escadaboo later, you know, especially if it was like, we got to try and beat them down. That's what he does. He runs over people.
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C
That's the empath in you. Again, their goals for last night, I'm not sure I saw any goals.
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A
But, yeah, I. Halftime, the sport was like nine to six, wasn't it?
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B
It was survival.
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A
I felt like last night was one of those games.
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B
Football, by the way.
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A
It was. When you get to halftime and the score is 9 to 6, you say to yourself, do I really have to stay up for the second half? We do, because everyone needs it. This is what our job is. But, man, it did not feel good. Stefania, you talked about how the backfield felt, like there was a change going on. Backfield also that is going through some changes right now is the Los Angeles Chargers. Omari and Hampton had a breakout game. Unfortunately, it came at the expense of Najee Harris. Why don't you set up the Najee injury first and then we'll talk about how Hampton crushed.
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Yeah, Najee lined up in the backfield as the ball was snapped. And if you watch the replay, what you really should do is watch it from the beginning of the. Before the ball was snapped because you see him standing or don't watch it.
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A
I let you watch the replays for me. I get crazy.
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B
I mean, okay, I don't think to me, this is not like the James Conner twisting injury. But if you want to see what is classic for an Achilles injury, I mean, Austin Eckler, Najee Harris, if you put them side by side, even though they were doing very different things, it was the same motion. They do a step back, lunge, a foot comes behind them. And so they're in the lunge position, which puts the Achilles on maximum stretch. And then it's like you get into that position. Think of how many times you've done that. Like a step back to push off and go forward. So you step back and your heels to the ground, calf and Achilles on maximum stretch, and then you forcefully push off. So you're going from full length to max Contraction and the Achilles fails. That's where the injury happens. And you. I can identify it so quickly because the player just goes to the ground. They have nothing. They have no push off. They're trying to push off and then they fall flat. That's what happened to Najee Harris. Cart comes out for him, he leaves. It was confirmed that it was an Achilles injury and they haven't talked about the severity, et cetera. But we know from experience that those are usually, you know, it's, it's one of those kind of like ACL you never really hear about. Partial. Yeah, they can happen. It's usually either like it's gone or you didn't have the injury in the first place. But I would plan on it being Omarion Hampton for fantasy purposes. Omarion Hampton going forward.
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Najee Harris unfortunately had a tough off season and so we're going to wish him the best in getting back to full health here. But field silver lining, if we're going to look at it, Omarion Hampson absolutely crushed as the number one running back. 19 carries, 70 yards and a touchdown. And then he got a bunch of passing game work as well. That passing game work was so fantastic for us.
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Yeah, that's the most important part, because 19 carries is his single game high. Just three games played, but still a single game high. Not super efficient. I don't care. Like that's under 4 yards of carry and that's totally fine if he's going to get any sort of passing game utilization. Now, is he going to get six catches a week? Probably not. But as Mike told us all week last week, this is one of the pass heaviest offenses in the NFL that can trickle down to the running back. So stock back up for Amarian. Hampton certainly feels like the kind of guy that is due for 20ish opportunities a game. He is a very talented player. The Chargers continue to be excellent. Three huge wins. I mean, their resume is excellent. They have the best resume. You know, they have one of the three best resumes in the NFL right now, along with the Bills and the Eagles, in my opinion.
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B
And they've been playing divisional games like they're getting divisional wins like that. This is huge for them. And then it just breeds the confidence.
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A
It should be illegal. You shouldn't start the season with three divisional games. Something about that just feels wrong.
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C
Well, they'll definitely end the season with one as well as we know that's how the schedule works.
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A
But you got one.
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C
Chargers have been great. But yes, my last one here, and this was sent after the One o' clock games. Amarian Hampton and the Najee Harris injury changes things a little bit here because I do believe Hampton is the running back that you want the most out of the rookie class. But prior to that taking place, I was saying to myself, quinshawn Judkins is the rookie running back that I want the most in fantasy football.
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A
I sent the same thing to our producer. That's amazing.
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C
Now, again, it's going to change, but this was really coming off the heels of the Ashton Genty performance as well. Genty, here's the good news. Ashton Genty had a career high 63 rushing yards yesterday, but Quinton Judkins was excellent for the Cleveland Browns.
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A
What was the good news there?
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C
Yeah, I know. Career high.
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A
Oh, career high 63. Okay, got it.
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C
Okay. But yes, Judkins was really, really good yesterday. And the snaps yesterday for the Browns, 33 for Quinn Shaw, Judkins 23 combined for Jerome Ford and Dylan Sampson, who again, Dylan Sampson, one touch. Remember that Week one eight catch performance?
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B
Oh, what about Dylan?
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C
That is a thing of the past. While not a ton of receiving work for Quinn, Shud Judkins, he just, he's just so impressive. Like we talk about how. And I'll get to some of the numbers in a minute. Ashton Genthy's offensive line is not great. And the same thing I think can be said with the injuries to the Chargers offensive line, who also lost Makai Becton to a concussion yesterday. They have individual good talents, but that group is really impacted by injuries. The Browns had some question marks along the offensive line coming into the season. I mean, left tackle was a big spot for them to figure out how they're going to handle it. And, and Judkins has been great after contact so far. He's a powerful runner. But we can't stop talking about Ashton Genti. Ashton Genti now has 144 rushing yards this season. He has 145 rushing yards after contact.
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B
I was just going to ask that. That was my next question. Like he. There is no opportunity for him to get past the line of scrimmage.
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C
He has two carries this season where he gained five or more yards before contact. You know, I've been seeing this and I really am not trying to be unkind to either player that I'm going to mention in a moment here. But I've seen a lot of people that have been responding to anything related to Ashton Genti on social media of this guy is Trent Richardson 2.0. I've got news for everybody right Here. For fantasy purposes, Trent was. We would love. Yes, Trent Richardson season right now. He would love his rookie season because he started off as RB. I went back and checked this 2011 Trent Richardson was RB40 in his first game. He went on to have 10 games as a top 11 running back that season. 10 games as a top 11. That would be elite. You'd say to yourself, that's awesome for Ashton Genti, that's totally worth it. He had like five finishes as RB6 or better. We would be saying nothing about Ashton Genti if he was giving us that kind of upside and he was getting way more involvement in the passing game. Guys. He now has a total of three receiving yards. He had zero targets yesterday to Ashton Jensen. We can sit here and talk about a lot of factors, but for fantasy football purposes, we're three games in. You have to put the name value aside. He will be outside my top 20 running backs in week four.
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A
Gosh, that's gross. That does not feel good with where we drafted Ashton.
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C
But I mean, it's just a stone cold fact, right? It's just a trick. He is what, like this is Jordan Mason in a worse offense.
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A
Yep.
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C
Lot of carries potentially. We're not sure on the passing game utilization week in and week out. He has one touchdown in three games. I still think Ashton Genti looks the part when he gets those opportunities. But this goes back to the philosophical debate that ensued for the months prior to the draft. Do you take a running back at 6? Is he going to be able to be the best player on your offense right away? We haven't talked about Brock Bowers and his struggles, but yeah, that Raiders offense, a mess. They get the Bears next week. Maybe things get better at home, but he was brutal once again Yesterday for fantasy 6.3 points.
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A
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A
We're going to talk some trends, things that we are recognizing here heading out of week three. I know Monday Night Football still needs to be able to play, but knowing that most of the week has wrapped up. Stefania, I want to start with you were trending. What are some trends that you feel like you've noticed through the first three weeks?
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B
Well, we touched on it already. It was just the Falcons look terrible and Michael Penix was a dud for the second week in a row. I don't even know what to make of this because if you look at the roster, you look at the talent, we saw glimpses at the very end of last season of like okay, Michael Penix with more time with these pass catching weapons and not to mention Bijan Robinson who can do it all? This is going to be a good option. And they were playing Carolina yesterday. So we thought this is a great streaming opportunity for Michael Penix Jr. You know who lost the matchup where they started? Michael Pennix Jr.
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A
Probably Stefani.
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B
So I like what is going on with Atlanta and can we expect anything more out of that offense? I don't think I can answer that question if I'm being perfectly honest. You know how many games were on at that time and I just can't. I want to go back and watch that game. I don't really, but I do because I want to see the things that I in more detail in terms of what's being set up and where things are going wrong. But just every time I turn around I was like, this is happening with Carolina. Like where. Where are these players?
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C
Shout out to the Panthers defense and the anti shout out to the pack to the Falcons.
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A
For the Falcons. Bajan is still running back four right now.
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C
He's awesome. No issues with Bijan.
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A
He's getting a ton of volume. But I need more Drake London. I need less from Darnell Mooney. Not that like I need less from.
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C
Him, but I need okay with Mooney.
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B
You always knew because last year he showed us a lot too. Like you Darnell Mooney. That to me was this.
- [45:28]
A
Yeah, but we don't.
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C
But.
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A
But we didn't draft Darnold. Drake London is a wide receiver, but you probably won beat.
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C
What I would say is that we want more from Drake London. It doesn't have to be that we get more from Drake London and less of Darna Moody. Like I think there's.
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A
To me it's this offense doesn't look.
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C
Like you can support two passers more of Drake London. That's what I need.
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A
I agree with you.
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B
You say but that's the problem that if it can't support two pass catchers because that's not an offense, that that should be the case. Kirk Cousins was supporting more than two pass catchers last year before he ended the Bucks especially.
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A
Yes, yes, that's true.
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C
Okay, but still like 10 touchdowns in two games was amazing.
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A
We got to find a way to be able to get this falcon.
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B
There's a way to distribute the ball.
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A
Yes, I'm with you.
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B
Not happening.
- [46:13]
A
My trend is Roma Dunze isn't a trend. He's a lifestyle. And we're current living our best life. Roma Dunes A in our fantasy life.
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B
You were going to use Tyler's Rome with dunes.
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A
I mean which is great though it wasn't only three catches for 62 yards and a touchdown. Actually a little bit less volume. No one won the lottery yesterday because Caleb Williams spread the wealth around in this Bears offense. Right. And and Luther Burden was able to find some stuff.
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B
However yay for Caleb too.
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A
Caleb was unbelievable. I and we can talk him in a second but Roma dun a clearly the wide receiver one of this team has 11 more targets than D.J. moore through the first three weeks. The chemistry between him and the quarterback looks great. If you drafted Roma dun in those middle rounds, you have found yourself a gem for the rest of the season.
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B
Somebody say that Someone say someone say he would be over DJ more. Did somebody say that the vibes with DJ Moore weren't great?
- [47:05]
A
That's a great question.
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B
I I don't know. I might want to go back and look at that. I have room to say in like over half my fantasy leagues then you are love when I thrilled this is.
- [47:13]
A
Paying off well now that can help counteract.
- [47:16]
B
You can't overcome the Michael Penn exchange.
- [47:18]
A
There you go. He leads all Bears wide receivers in snaps, routes, targets, receptions, receiving yards, receiving touchdowns, end zone targets and fantasy points. That's every stat. That's all the stats.
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C
He is the second highest scoring wide receiver in all fantasy right now and it seems like Amon Ra hasn't played yet flowers as well so a couple guys who have been really good but he's been exceptional. He's been brilliant. I love to see a player paying off and the Bears were just awesome.
- [47:43]
A
Offensively yesterday it was a classic Ben Johnson and like situations.
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C
He's wide receiver too but he is not the best wide receiver in all fantasy football. Not neither by scoring neither or by to me like value week in and week out. That's Puka Nakua. Yeah Puka is the best wider team in fantasy football especially with the uncertainty.
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B
Of so fun to watch.
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C
I mean when you take CD Lamb in the injury into into account. When you take Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase and quarterbacks into account. Well then to me the answer is Puka Nakua who he has no touchdowns this year and yet he is still the highest scoring wide receiver in all of fantasy with 73.5 fantasy points.
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B
Yeah so that's actually a really awesome stat because we it's so many players are touchdown dependent. He never was. He hasn't had any touchdown second in.
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C
The NFL in targets trailing only. Can you guess the answer through three games? Good job if you can. This is a good little trivia. I'll give it 15 seconds and then we'll give you who has the most targets in the NFL through three games. Number is 37. Can you name the player he had, I believe 14 yesterday?
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A
Yes, I can.
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C
Okay.
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A
It's Chris Olave.
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C
It's Chris Olave.
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B
Well, that's good. I wouldn't have gotten that.
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C
Yeah. Chris Olaves are just a little bit less efficient because his quarterback is not Matthew Stafford, but he has does Pukunuku with six more catches than any other wide receiver. It's very early, but he is on pace for 164 receiving yards. The man is brilliant.
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B
Shout out to his quarterback too. Remember when people were worried about the value of Puka Nukua because Matthew Stafford, his back and his almost 40 year old son? Yeah. How you feeling about that now?
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A
Seems like fierce.
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B
Did you avoid Puka Nuku in drafts because you were worried about this? You know what? Shame on you.
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C
I wound up with one team that has Puka Nakua and Jonathan Taylor. I think it's. I always adopt teams during the year. Like they move up the pecking order. That one's my favorite.
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A
That one's moving up right now. Yeah, that. That checks out.
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C
Anything else?
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A
Stefania? Give us one more trend. I think we each got one more.
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C
You're good.
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A
I got one more.
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C
Okay, what is it?
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A
JSN proved to us that he can be a top 10 wide receiver even with Sam Darnold on our center.
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C
I mean, let me just. This is. I don't want to derail the takeaway and spin it all the way to week four, but just snap reaction. I give you two names and you tell me which player you'd prefer to start starting both. But if you just had to pick one.
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A
Okay.
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C
Jackson, Smith and Jigba.
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A
Yes.
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C
Or Justin Jefferson.
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A
I would rather start jsn.
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B
Jsn.
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C
Yeah. Jackson, Smith and Jigba. Or Jamar Chase.
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A
I would rather start jsn.
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Pretty crazy, right? I mean, it's.
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Yeah, yeah. I. Hard one. I know Jamar Chase because at least you know, he's leading the team in target as is jsn. But you're like, if Jake Browning had a good game, Jamar Chase could have an amazing game. Right, Right, right, right. Yeah.
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C
So. But yes, it's close.
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B
And the fact that it's close is ridiculous.
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These are kind of silly arguments because in no circumstances is somebody like, yeah, you know what? I either don't have room for Jamar Chase or Jackson Smith and Jigba, but it's just a sign of how far JSN has climbed and the impact of backup quarterbacks.
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He is wide receiver four on the season. He has a 38.9% target share. Jackson, Smith and Jigba has more fantasy points than every other Seattle Seahawks wide receiver combined on the season. It is clear here is the number one target.
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Who are there other receivers?
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C
Jake Bobo, Tori Horton.
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Tori Horton, obviously Jake.
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I I do think it's a little bit. I I don't know why we this did not lead SportsCenter or get up this morning but Seahawks are undefeated with Jake Bobo on the field this year. They're winless without him. Again, I'm just, I'm just pointing it out.
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Yep. I all the fears that you potentially had if you drafted JSN of like can Sam Darnold really like give me a guy that's going to be this good through three weeks? The answer feels like very much yes. If you're going to give him that much volume, I'm in.
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C
Sam's fine. Like people need to just get over.
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A
Agreed.
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C
Sam Darnold is a solid NFL quarterback. People. I get it.
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B
Also growth. Right. Like part of the benefit of Sam Darnold being who he is now is because he was with Kevin O'. Connell. He also had a good stint with the 49ers. I think those stops along the way helped him become who he is and the confidence he has in Seattle last.
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C
Trend for me and I know that Daniel sees it the same way. Is that Daniel Jones? Yeah. Top 10 quarterback right now.
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A
Yep.
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Good lord. So you know, think about Danny Dimes and Stefania and I are having this conversation on the way over here is it might be like week 16 before some people are like, I don't know man. Like you might have one of those moments. Moments that Danny Dimes tends to have. Right. He's very turnover prone. He's a guy that has been very inconsistent. Instead he's got three straight games of lights out football. He had yet another rushing touchdown yesterday. They whooped the Titans obviously in for a long year but I thought Titans.
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Defense had been playing pretty well.
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C
They had been.
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So I thought this was going to be a Bronco. I thought this was going to be a bigger test for Danny Dimes and he made it look like it was easy.
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C
I think in two out of the three games he's played you'd say to yourself that was a test going into the game that I thought was difficult. Last week it was the Broncos. Yesterday it was the Titans, the Dolphins.
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A
Not a classified difficult.
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C
That being said, he's been excellent. They're Using him as a runner, which is so vital to fantasy upside. So he's been the best value at any quarterback because he was undrafted and he was great.
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A
Again, yesterday he only had 15, I think 15.8 fantasy points. But in a game in which he found the end zone with his legs, was able to get in the end zone with his arm, I think he found Michael Pittman to be able to get in the end zone. And then they dominated everywhere else. You just didn't need to use them. So if you look at it, you're like, wait a minute, he had 15 fantasy points. How is he a set it and forget it. It's like, trust me, with the way the game played out. He did everything that he was expected to do in this game.
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C
They're just. There are a lot.
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A
He was unbelievable.
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C
Yeah. Haven't been great. So.
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A
Yeah. All right, let's talk about some week three studs and duds. We're going to start.
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C
And a reminder on studs and duds. Like sometimes these are just like we're mentioning that we don't take away on these players. Other than this is this funny random game we have have Trey Tucker had.
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A
His Juwan Jennings game this year as.
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B
Much as number one in all of fantasy football so far in week three.
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C
40 fantasy points, three touchdowns for Trey Tucker. I feel like Juwan Jennings deserves a touch more credit. Right. Like, sure, Dan's stacked like he was good the rest of the way.
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A
Which one of them has more 20 fantasy point games in their career? Trey Tucker or Juwan Jennings?
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C
The way you asked it, probably. Yeah.
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A
But like, it's close. They're like, Jordan Jennings has more.
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C
If. If Juwan Jennings is playing in week four. You have a pretty different perception.
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A
Absolutely. 100%. But coming into. When he hit this last. Last year, we didn't have Juwan Jennings sitting on the pedestal that he's sitting on now for us. Right. So Trey Tucker, I think unfortunately this came at the expense of Brock Bowers. Brock Bowers only had five targets in this game.
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C
Back to back duds.
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A
And it has not been great.
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B
I'm not convinced he's 100%. I. They ran him out there last week.
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C
Yeah.
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B
And it was quite, remember, questionable Monday Night Football. What are we going to do? And he just didn't look himself. And I don't know.
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A
Well, shout out to Trey Tucker. But I didn't. It didn't really help very many of us, I don't think.
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C
Shout out to Hunter Henry as well. 29 fantasy points, a pair of receiving Touchdowns. I feel like Hunter gives us one of these. Yes, he does 29 fantasy points. But like, Hunter Henry is a totally solid tight end.
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B
Totally.
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C
That's rock solid. Like, you know, maybe somewhere between the 12th and 14th best tight end in the NFL. Well, we'll talk more about Drake May later on this week. Just again, just a disaster loss for the Patriots yesterday. Drake May very much in that top 10 quarterback conversation going forward and one of his preferred targets is Hunter Henry.
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B
Drake May looks more poised than you would expect him to be for being so young in his career. Hunter Henry to me is like, well, yeah, I mean, but compared to some of the veterans out there, sure, yeah, yeah, pretty good. And also Hunter Henry got up and limped a little bit at one point and I was like, oh no. Because that's been sort of a bugaboo for him is the injury. But if he's healthy, he's probably the tight end I would most want to stream if I had, you know, a top tight end that was going on a buy.
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Garrett Wilson was not impacted in a negative way by Torod Taylor being the quarterback. In fact, 13 targets, 10 receptions, 84 yards and a touchdown. He was the clear pass catcher in this game. Mason Taylor, the only one that really seemed like they got involved. Garrett Wilson, still a man, got a.
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Good chance to be right there with Jackson, Smith and Jigba, maybe Puka Nakua for target share leaders. By the end of the year it will be probably fewer targets than those guys because of the jets offense, but he was excellent for the second time in three weeks. Was Garrett Wilson on that.
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A
In that same game, Stefania on the other side, Mike Evans ended up getting yes.
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B
And Mike Evans left with a hamstring injury. If you saw the camera follow him into the tunnel, took his helmet and heaved it. He was limping, walking off. Like there are certain things that tell you this is not like, oh, it just tightened up on him. It was funny because. Not funny haha. But you know, Todd Bowles at the end set called it. He said as far as he knew, he tweaked his hamstring. I think when people hear that, they're like a hamstring tweak, like, oh, that's no big deal. When the guy is limping and throwing his helmet and it's somebody who's had hamstring injuries in the past, as recently as last year that caused him to miss three games plus a bye week. And the player reacts like that, you know, it's not nothing. And that's a big Deal. Because obviously their entire receiving core in Tampa Bay is up in the air. Stay. We'll talk about Chris more later this week. Maybe he comes back, but it's not like he comes back to a full compliment of snaps, even if he's back this week. So I would be making plans though. Cause I don't. I don't think, especially last year, Mike Evans tried to play through a hamstring injury and that's what cost him ultimately multiple games.
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Feels like all, all three of those pass catchers, Emeka Abuka came in and he was limited throughout the week.
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C
Percent of the snaps. Yeah, he told us that was coming yesterday and he was. He's chefy.
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A
He has money in the bank as he is field. Who else you got do you want to give a little shout out to?
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C
Just two random ones. I'll do this in reverse order. Tori Horton, who we just mentioned a moment ago, had a long punt return as well. Three catches, 32 yards and a touchdown for Torrey Horton yesterday. So he was buzzing during preseason. And I don't think we're quite to the point where we need to be talking about him as anything close to a starter except maybe the deepest of leagues. That being said, if there's room in this offense for a second wide receiver, maybe it's not Cooper cup. Maybe it is instead Torrey Horton, their first round pick out of Colorado State.
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A
I think there's a small drum beat there. I think. I think we will get to a.
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C
Point where it's a small drum beat. Luke McCaffrey, Christian's younger brother, the other 14.6 fantasy points. To be clear, much of this took place late in the game on a. I think it was a 42 yard touchdown pass. So 1 plus 4.2 is 5.2 plus. So 14.6 fantasy points. 11.2 of those came on just one reception. But he's notable because Terry McLaurin left.
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B
The game early with a quad injury. So keep your eye on that. He came out originally called questionable return. Never does come back into the game. Ruled out. So if there's no Terry McLaren available, then maybe we see a little more Luke McCaffrey.
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C
Just a. Just for those out there, I have Terry McLaurin on a couple teams and it did not impact the outcome of the game that I was playing. But Terry McClaren definitely scored on that diving touchdown.
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B
Oh, he totally scored.
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C
And like they, like it was ruled the touchdown. Then they reviewed it and they said it wasn't a touchdown.
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A
I didn't get that.
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C
Definitely scored so if you're out there, just want to say shout out.
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A
Yeah. All right. Feel let's start kick off some does and we can be quick through this one as well.
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C
Let's get through it and talk about whether it matters or not. Breeze hall had 9.2 fantasy points. So Bree hall, you know, obviously week one was really good. This jets offense not so great. Probably at full strength and definitely not without Justin Fields. But Hall's still on that RB2 radar for me.
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I was going to say, if you're the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and you come into that game with a backup quarterback, who are you saying? You know who we need to stop. I'll let Tarad Taylor beat me. I'm going to stop the running backs.
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C
Yep. Lad McConkey. This one has my attention. 3.7 fantasy points for lad.
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A
This is a problem.
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C
Under 10 last week and it feels like right now again, just like, like if we could have a conversation what is the pecking order of the Chargers top three wideouts?
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Because I do not think Lad McConkey is a piece of this offense. He is not a focal point like we drafted him to be.
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C
Totally no two ways about that. So we're going to have a much more thoughtful conversation throughout the rest of the week.
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A
Our rankings this week leapfrogged him or.
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C
Not, but LAD has definitely seen his stock dip precipitously. Alvin camara, at just 6.6 fantasy points, they are a mess. They got absolutely smothered against the Seahawks. It's all receiving value for Alvin Camaro the rest of the way because I'm just not so sure they can afford to run the ball because they're going to be playing from behind all the time and they don't score touchdowns.
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A
We just did the trending segment. Like the one trend that you can count on for the entirety of the season is the Saints will be behind and having to throw a bunch all game long.
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C
That's why Chris olave with those 37 targets is going to have some value in PPR scoring. And then Joann Johnson sort of like top 10ish value for tight ends. We mentioned Saquon off the top 9.5 fantasy points again. What are you going to do? Superman forgets his cape every once in a while. And then finally Trevor Lawrence under eight fantasy points. Yesterday we didn't talk a ton about Trevor is like this guy could break out and become a quarterback that you're going to be counting on this year. But there was at least some hope given the Liam Cohen effect and Brian Thomas Jr. Plus Travis Hunter, he's just been bad.
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B
Trevor is weird going on over there because every time I looked over on that screen, I did not like the body language that I saw going on in that game.
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C
I just think it's fair to categorize Trevor as an enigma in terms of talent right now.
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A
Do you think? Okay, let me ask you this question. If you have Travis Hunter, should he be anywhere near your starting lineup or is he a bench until further notice?
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C
More defense than offense yesterday. If that's going to be the case and you can't play him in fantasy. You just can't. Yeah, if he's an N. Also, the.
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B
Box score should tell you you can't play.
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A
It was really bad. It was really bad. I mean, Brian Thomas Jr. Because of the volume, feels like you have to play him, but it doesn't. None of it feels good if you're starting some. Someone from the Jaguars pass catching group. By the way, I'm just going to say this really quickly after watching that Sunday night football game. Travis Kelsey's washed. Like, I just. He does not look like he is name value only at this point. Torrey Horton, Hunter, Renfro, Case on Booty. They all have more fantasy points this year than Travis Kelsey does. And that's with no Xavier Worthy and no Rasheed Rice.
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C
Correct.
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A
Not good.
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C
That Chiefs offense, they won yesterday, but man, do they need Xavier Worthy and Rashid Rice. We know Rasheed Rice will come back in week seven. We'll see. Yeah, if we can get Xavier Worthy for. Sounds like there's at least a chance on Worthy next.
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B
Yeah, but when you get him back, who knows he is not going to be XAVIER Worthy. Like 1.0.
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A
All right, let's talk about Monday Night Football. Detroit Lions taking on Pumped you, man. The Baltimore Ravens. I'm pretty pumped right now. Right Now I need 16.6 fantasy points in order from Jared Goff in order to not come in last place in our starts of the week. Mike has his projection at 16 point.
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C
Wow. Really?
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A
So I feel like Mike might have done that on purpose. There's a lot of things that I am watching in this game, specifically Stefania, you and I are in a matchup.
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B
I was just gonna say, aren't you projected to beat me?
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A
I need 33 points from Lamar Jackson and Jameer Gibbs and the Lions defense in order to beat you. So we'll see how that one works out.
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B
I need that to not work out.
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A
One of the things that I get.
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B
32 points in a win and a win and I'll take the fantasy win.
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A
I would be all right, I'll trade you. You give me a win over the Ravens and I will give up a fantasy win.
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B
You're welcome.
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A
One of the things that I'm watching in this game, just in general, is Jameson Williams. He has not been the, the volume guy that we kind of felt like they were speaking into existence during the off season. Right. It felt like they were going to be able to find ways to get him more involved when he does get the football. He is electric. We know that. But I would love to see especially in a game that they think is going to be high scoring, do we see a little bit more jmo, some fireworks on that side. He's someone I think needs to touch the ball more in this Lions offense.
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Yeah, I mean I, I know that some people have already like said we're done here, but Mark Andrews is kind.
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Of like now that's my same thing. I was like proof of life need.
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C
To see because Isaiah likely could be back next week and it'll be a slow roll for Isaiah likely still like Isaiah likely coming back probably doesn't propel Mark Andrews value forward. It probably takes it a step backwards and I'm not sure there's a room. There is room for it to go backwards. Courts right now. So Mark Andrews, who has just two catches and three fantasy points so far this season, do we get anything?
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B
And I mean anything Again, that's why proof of life. So our friend Kyle Safi gave me some numbers because I was like, this is what I need. He is been targeted on 28.6% of his red zone routes this season. And he said last year with a 28.3% target rate of his in the red zone, he scored 11 touches down. So it's not the targeting in the red zone that's the problem. And granted small sample size only through two weeks, but it's the fact that the there's no efficiency there and Mark Andrews had a drop last week that was bad. And I wonder if we'd be saying anything different if he had a score. Be like, well at least he's catching a pass in the end zone. But they're playing a lot of the long game. You know, they're the short game hasn't been there that much. So he's running routes. But there's not, there's not really. He's not really being looked for and he's not really being counted on. Remember when Lamar Jackson used to throw it in was like that's his safety blanket. Was Mark Andrews was that guy. I don't feel like he needs it anymore now.
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Last year I feel like we. We saw this. It's part of why he fell in our draft process. But only 55 catches last year and then 11 of them go for touchdowns, which really elevated what felt like the production for Mark Andrews. So it's going to be an interesting one here in this one. Do you guys have anything hanging on this game here in Monet football? I've got a big one against you, Stef Jobs.
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B
I have a bunch of teams. I have Lamar Jackson in the war room, don't I? I do.
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C
Yes, you do.
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A
Yes, you do.
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B
That's what happens when you play in.
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A
So many too many leagues.
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B
But I need. I need Lamar Jack. Oh, what am I gonna do?
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A
Because if he has a. I need Lamar's accent.
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B
I know I gotta have to go home and do my. Do some math. This is hard for me, but I need to figure out exactly how many points and I'm gonna like fire up a little text. Monday Night Football when he needs to take a.
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A
This is when you do start doing those mental math things where it's like I need exactly 16.8, 17.2 fantasy points. Because any more than that, by the way, I'm going to say this and this will be the last thing. I'll close it after this because I am playing against Stefania. I've got Lamar Jackson, Jameer Gibbs and the Lions defense. Would you guys ever consider. Because you have a quarterback going against your defense, pulling them out or do you think that's just not the spirit of the game, guys?
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C
I always have to scoring in that league.
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A
We do have negative scoring in that league. This league.
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C
I think you got to consider it. I would. I always play all my guys. But there are people that I would say do consider it and this would be a circumstance to consider it.
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A
Yeah, it seems like it would be. I don't know. Let's just hope that we get a lion's dub and we'll let the fantasy chips fall as they terrible in our.
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B
Show league, by the way. And I'm going to blame it on. Do you have like I have. We have two IR slots, don't we?
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A
We do.
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B
Both of mine are filled and I have other guys who could go on them. That's how banged up my. My team.
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C
Walking wounded. Yeah. Day to day.
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A
We don't call you the queen of the injuries for nothing, Stefania. Unfortunately. We just wish that it wasn't to your squad.
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B
I know.
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A
All right. That's going to do it for us today. Thank you so much for hanging out with us. Don't forget to love each other, be kind to yourself and have fun watching Monday Night Football. We'll see you tomorrow.
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C
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