
Week 6: Must-Start Players & Big Downgrades!
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Michael, by the way, our predicting what may happen this week, that is our job.
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That is what we do.
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That is we do.
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Yes. We are here mostly to give you names of players that are not rostered in 99.97% of leagues.
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That's right.
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That might score one touchdown. That is our primary function on this podcast.
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Well, I need to start the show off with a quick thing real fast. Yesterday I found out what level of friend I was to field years. Okay, so like, you know how we have different levels of friendship? Everyone like, you know, relationships have different levels of stuff.
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You and I are best friends and me and Field are. We're colleagues.
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Exactly. Associates.
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I would say associates is the proper term.
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Checks out.
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I looked down at my phone yesterday and I recognized. Oh, I missed a call from field. I must have had my ringer on silent. I didn't Notice it. And so I go to call field back, and surprisingly, Field doesn't answer, which doesn't happen very often. Usually field is like, I did not. I thought about it, but I was like, I'll give it a few minutes. And within like 30 seconds, field immediately calls me back and he says, hey, my bad. I called you. And then I set my phone down and I went to the bathroom. And while I was peeing, I actually got the notification on my Apple watch that you were calling me. And I had to make the decision, am I gonna answer or am I not gonna answer? And some friends are pee friends, and some friends are not pee friends. You know what I mean?
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You're not a pee friend.
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I'm not a pee friend. It found out to feel Jace. We all have pee friends in our lives, though.
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Wait, does that. Is it. If you're a pee friend, does that mean you're a stronger friend?
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Yes, exactly.
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Absolutely A sign of respect. But what do I know?
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Yeah, you put him above going to the bathroom, but you clearly put going.
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To the bathroom above me. I have absolutely been on the phone with both of you. While I have done both of the things, I've been pulling double duty. My number of times that we've been on the phone with each other, that's how much I love you guys, for what it's worth. Wow.
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Okay.
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Sounds like.
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Don't worry, double entendre.
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Yeah, Maybe he's your number two level friend. That's it.
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All right, well, that's gonna shows off the rails. Yeah. Let's go ahead and get into a couple of things. First off, shout out to our friends over at trophy. Smack head over to trophysmac.com, use the promo code Focus10 for 10% off. Your first order, using the promo code Focus10, our buddy Eric Moody hanging out in chat.
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Yeah, he is.
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As he always does, go hang out with our buddy Eric Moody. And so make sure you hang out with them. And just in case I didn't say it, I want to say it one more time. Shout out to our friends over at Little Caesars. Today's show was presented by Little Caesars. All right, let's dive into my pizza. You and me both. I may have. I may have a line on another 15% off for next week. Maybe a little later on in the show, we'll talk about that. So let's dive into our week six preview, part one, though, my friends, we each brought a couple of things to the table field. I'm going to start with you.
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Okay? There is an opportunity for a quarterback to smash this weekend. The question is will said quarterback smash. My flash first talking point for week six is on paper it's a great matchup for Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert has been struggling.
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That has been some struggles late.
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So The Dolphins ranked 30th in fantasy points per game allowed to opposing quarterbacks. How about this? Quarterbacks are averaging 23.59 points per game against the Dolphins. The only one who hasn't been great was Bryce Young last week.
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Who?
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Bryce had a careless turnover in the first half, had another interception later on in the game. Wasn't great. They ended up getting a big come from behind win. But Bryce was not dominant by any stretch or fantasy purposes. Unlike the four quarterbacks that face the Dolphins prior to Bryce Young, he's not a particularly mobile player. He has some mobility, but not at the same level of Daniel Jones and Josh Allen and Drake May and the sort. Justin Herbert probably like Bryce Young in the sense that he's not a super mobile quarterback. He does have some mobility though. The big difference is that Justin Herbert is a superior player to Bryce Young. Herbert's last three games he's been Quarterback 18, Quarterback 18, Quarterback 17. He's under 15 fantasy points in three straight games. He has exactly one touchdown pass in three straight games over the past two weeks. He has a total of 369 passing yards. There are some caution points here for Justin Herbert.
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You said over the last three weeks.
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Two points, two games.
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Two games. He has 369 passing.
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Oh my gosh. Yep.
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So that's under 185 per game. And yet he's still quarterback five for me this week because the matchup is.
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So, so good on paper.
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On top of that, I know that we've talked a lot about the running backs. It's been a very pass aggressive offense in LA so far this season.
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Yeah.
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And maybe if the running backs aren't as good as Rico Dowdle was last week, they don't have a choice but to run the football a little bit more this week as well.
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Yeah, big problem here is touchdowns. They're not scoring. They are. There's only a handful of teams. They're averaging 2.0.0 on the nose offensive touchdowns per game. The league average is 2.4. That's a huge gap. That's a problem. There's only a handful of teams below them and they're all teams. If you looked at, you'd be like, ah, that's not good company. That's the worst teams in the NFL.
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That's one of those stats that's good for you to put context on because for them to be a 2 and for 2.4 to be average and you're like, that's way below average.
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Like, yeah, that's.
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That doesn't sound like it's as big.
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Of a gap for a Justin Herbert let offense. So they have to figure that out for sure. I have a little confidence they will because he's so good and it seems like he at least at the beginning of the season was playing at a high level. That's a little bit. But I'm confident they, I'm confident they could get back on track. So I agree with you. He is QB4 for me this week, so I agree.
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Okay. It's funny because like when you were first responding to my analysis, it almost sounded like you were disagreeing.
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I heard it too.
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And then you have him one spot ahead of me.
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The matchup, I mean, yes, they're playing it all right.
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That is the big takeaway here is that despite Justin Herbert's relative recent struggles and we're talking for fantasy but to a degree reality as well of being over the last two weeks again, quarterback 18 quarterback 18 quarterback 17. If you started him in any or all of the past three weeks, you were probably disappointed by the results. Despite that, he has a golden opportunity to bounce back in a major way this weekend.
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A little foreshadowing. But later I have a similar quarterback who hasn't been over a long term period, hasn't been a good fantasy quarterback. Has recently. But great matchup this week.
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Here comes my thoughts on Josh Allen later on.
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Hey, there we go. Yeah. Why don't you go next, Mike Clay.
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Well, we got. I'm going to save that one for a little bit because I have another one here I want to start with. Remember a couple weeks ago we did the running back to Bonanza? Right. We went through kind of all those options because there were so many. Well, this week I was like, we had a lot of tight end twos, if you will, or fringe tight end ones who have emerged over the last couple of weeks. I want to do the same thing.
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Can I rename this category?
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Yes. How about the tight end treasure Trove? Do you like that name?
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That works. I was going to go with tight ends not named Jake Ferguson or Trey McBride.
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Well, I'm going a little deeper than that. I'm going to go a little deeper than that.
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Like those are like the only two that I actually trust right now.
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Yeah. So I wrote the Play.
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I don't mean that. But it's a pretty small list.
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It is.
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Well, I have.
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I cut it off. We have Ferguson, McBride, Bowers. We'll see if he goes this week. But that just makes these guys we're going to talk about more important. If he doesn't. Sam LaPorta, Tyler, Warren, Tucker, Craft back against Cincinnati, and Kelsey Travis. Kelsey off a big game. I'd include all those guys as if you have them, you're starting them. After that, it gets a little. A little tricky. So we'll do the same thing. I'm going to run through these names, how I have them in my rankings. We'll go from eight to. We'll say 22. And then you guys just stop me if you want to talk about any of these guys. And again, I wrote about a lot of these in the playbook this week because it's such a prominent thing that developed last week.
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I can't read, but I encourage those who do know how to read.
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Agreed. I actually highlighted the whole thing and then did Google read read for me and then it just read me the article.
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That's what I have to do. Smart guy. Yeah, that's all right.
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All right.
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Eight. Hunter Henry.
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Stop.
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Okay.
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Stop me. I just wanted to say stop.
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All right. No, no. I need five minutes of analysis.
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Wait. Hunter Henry's been really good so far this year. He's been like one of the trusted targets. Is there a.
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He's been a little bit Jekyll and Hyde.
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There has been a little bit of that. And Stefan Diggs come on as a major pass catcher in that offense.
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Yeah. In terms of points per game, he's ahead of Bowers, LaPorta, Kelsey. But he did spike a little bit there. Good matchup for him against the Saints and that's why he's at 8. And he leads this list.
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Two or fewer catches than three of.
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His five, but we still like him. Trusted target of Drake May since last season, actually at nine. David and Joku. Yeah. Interesting one. Now back on track after last week. Good with Dylan Gabriel. So good there. Okay. Yep. 10. How about the leader in fantasy points per game at tight end, Darren Waller. Darren Waller.
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I'm fine with it, too. We talked about it yesterday. Like, I understand the idea of trading selling high as Daniel suggested.
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I also wonder.
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I understand that, like you, if you're going to be starting somebody else who's not yet mentioned in Mike's 10 tight ends, then I'm okay with holding Darren Wall.
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Yeah.
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No, I think somewhere in that top 8 to 12 range is fine for Darren.
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Agreed. That's appropriate.
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All right. This guy is. Has been a touchdown machine so far. Dallas Goddard next up on the list at 12 or at 11 here. So he's been fine as the Giants tonight. Now is where it starts to get a little interesting with guys that are quick risers. Mason Taylor volume against Denver. Yeah. Big target shares in back to back games. Obviously a good connection there with Justin Fields. I still worry a little bit though about the volume in that offense, the pass volume. Is it going to be sustainable for Garrett Wilson we talked about yesterday? And can they support Mason Taylor as a tight end one?
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Yeah, I think that he's right on the border here as well.
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Good player.
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The jets might throw the ball 25 times in a game, but on Sunday, if they're down against this Broncos team and one of the like under discussed. I don't know if anything's under discussed in the NFL, but one of the storylines that I feel like hasn't been discussed as much as it feels like it should be so far for me is what happened to the jets defense.
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Yeah, it's been horrific.
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Like you would tell yourself, like if you haven't paid that much attention to the jets defense, you'd be like, yeah, I know the Broncos have a great defense, but the jets can contain the Broncos. Right. Maybe not so much like Sauce Gardiner was excellent last week for the most part against George Pickens. But they are not a good defense.
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Right, a great defense. Yeah. It's kind of shocking too, but so.
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I say that only because there is a chance that the jets are playing catch up once again on Sunday because they can't lose games or win games for that matter. 16 to 13 right now.
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Yeah. It turns out Robert Salah might be a good defensive coach because when he left the jets, when he was fired, the defense fell apart and now he's in San Francisco and that team on paper does not look great. And they've been solid and the jets defenses remained very important.
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Yeah, the jets are. Look at this.
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One, two, three.
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They're like a bottom ten defense right now.
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They're allowing like what, three touchdowns a game.
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A little over 31.4 second worst in the NFL. The Jets. Whoa.
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Yeah. Shocking.
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Does Mason. Can I ask one last question? Does Mason Taylor only have the ability to go up from here? Because if anything happens, we've. I've seen and I get your volume concerns. But like if they decide that Justin Fields isn't the answer, don't you think that that means a more Competent passing quarterback gets into play here.
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Yeah, it's. I. I thought for a while, like, I was on the train of, like, Justin might not start every game this season. Kind of don't know. But, like, I don't like, with Torod Taylor. What does Torod Taylor do for, like, the long term?
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He gives you kind of what Joe Flacco gives you a little bit of, you know, kind of solidifies things a little bit.
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They're the only winless team in the NFL. Like, at some point, the jets have to acknowledge that 2025 is really about, like, getting the defensive players to understand this new scheme and the new verbiage and then developing the young players, seeing what they have.
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Both sides, right.
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Arman member and some of the young offensive linemen and some of the players they invested in in this year's draft class.
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Yeah, no doubt. Okay, so that's Taylor at 12. Kyle Pitts is checking in at scene as the Bills.
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Post hype sleeper.
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No doubt, no doubt.
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Bless you.
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Bless you. Bless you.
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Thank you.
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Mark Andrews at 14.
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Like, you can't even opine on Mark Andrews anymore.
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I know there's no way he's just going to finish 40th or second. We just don't know.
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I actually think 14th is perfect because I don't feel good starting him whenever I put him into my lineup. But he is markedly better than the guys that are behind him on this list. From a talent perspective, the thing that.
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Mike is doing right now only underscores why anybody who listens to this show knows how much of an advocate I am for the idea of. I am not against putting ranking numbers next to every single player, 1 through 50 or whatever, 1 through 25 at tight end or quarterback. But I do believe that, like, buckets matter so much more.
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Yeah, that's the kind of the point. This is a huge bucket.
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Hey, if you want me to differentiate very sort of succinctly between Mark Andrews and Dallas Goddard, I don't have a great answer for you.
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Yeah, I think eight or nine on this list could be swapped with 21 and 22 as we'll get to be like, all right, you know, like, I don't feel pretty good.
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Like, once you got past, I don't know, I feel like I felt pretty.
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Good about Darren Waller, Henry and Joku Waller, but then again, Waller, this is going to be his third game and like, I don't know, he has such a history of going down and fell apart in the second half last week. So I don't know. I don't I'm not all the way in there.
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Sounds like a trade candidate, you know what I'm saying?
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So high. Yeah. So. All right, so we have Henry and Joker, Waller, Goddard, Taylor, Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews. Now Harold Fannin, the other Brown tight end scored last week. He's not going away. No Cedric Tillman. So they're going to continue to feature him. So he's been pretty good.
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We've got one mitigating factor for Harold Fannin. Okay, yards per catch.
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Yeah. Short range target.
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But this I am at Harold Fannin so far this year is at 8.2 yards per catch. 8.2. Last week he had 3.3 yards per catch. Not a gigantic number there. It's not like all these tight ends are big long range targets but you know, the explosive plays are decent volume but not a lot of explosives.
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Yeah, I mean he's a full time offensive player. Just it's a rare situation. You don't see that a lot in the NFL because when you're throwing the ball you're going to have three wide receivers on the field. And we did see a little bit of that from you know like for example, the Giants or another example. They were very 12 heavy last week and then you had the injury to Slayton and then they went. It, you know, it kind of shook up things. They were trailing.
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So he ranks 109th in yards per catch so far this season. Although you know what hilariously like does.
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That include wide receivers?
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Jake Ferguson is down at 6.6 yards per receiver. 41 catches though, compared to what, 21 for.
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It's like, yeah, how about this guy? I asked you guys about this guy last week and you weren't all the way back in yet. But he scored a touchdown last week. Evan Ingram.
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Yeah, yeah, better. Better last week.
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His, his prop at ESPN bet is two and a half catches. I was like over hammer that. I mean he seems like he's back now back played a lot of snaps. He's back involved in the passing game. So I think if he's on waivers you might. He might get back into the tight end. One conversation. So.
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Yep.
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And he is definitely on waivers.
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Catch.
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He is available in basically 50% of.
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ESP leagues but I'm on the waiver wide.
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But again, Eric Caribbeau, it's one of.
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Them situations much like all these other guys where you're like, I'm not going to keep five tight ends on my bench. They're like, you have to pick and choose from these guys. Which is why we're rolling through them. Speaking of which, there's another one this guy plays tonight, Theo Johnson. Three touchdowns in his last two games. Had two last week. However he is much like fan and he's not putting the yards up. He's never had more than 54 yards in a game in his in his career and that number is lower this season.
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I've got some optimism here not for like totally changing the yards per catch part but just or just total yards. But just like the player is intriguing to me. He's a super athletic tight end and I mentioned this Monday, Tuesday I think Wednesday as well so might as well keep the streak going. 17 of Jackson Dart's 26 completions last weekend went to running backs for tight ends. He has all of Jackson darts career touchdown passes. Every single one of them. There's only been three but all of them have gone to Theo Johnson.
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Legit. Yeah, no Darius Slayton tonight too. So they're going to be we're going to get it sounds like little Jordan Humphrey is going to be the guy that replaces Slayton.
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Jordan baby.
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It's going to be a lot of 12 personnel. I like by the way, Daniel Bellinger anytime Touchdown.
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Oh I like that. What do you think?
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Save some of the meat on the bone for the game preview later.
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Oh yeah, about that. What do you think rookies do in a situation like where Jackson Dart throws his first career passing touchdown and Theo Johnson has his first career receiving touchdown but it's the same football this season.
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I think what you do is you cut it in half.
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Is that what it is? Okay.
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Or what you do is. You guys ever watch that show? Is it cake?
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Yes. Yes. Yeah.
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You give one of them the ball, one of them all, and the other one gets cake, and we just don't know which is which.
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Okay. Okay.
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I love that we play a game of cake.
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I'm good with it.
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Later, right?
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I like it.
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Yeah, that's good. All right, let's wrap this up. We got a couple more. Jake Ton just looking more appealing now with Ricky Piersoll looking doubtful. We'll see on Juwan Jennings. We might not have Brock Purdy either, but Jake Tan, just a serviceable tight end, too.
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My last comment on these, did you guys think at all when we were watching the game last Thursday night when Jake Tonjas and Kendrick Bourne are going off? Kendrick bourne joined the 49ers very late in training camp, so list to a lesser degree, but he played with Mac Jones for three or four seasons in New England. And Jake Tonjas also had probably all of Mac Jones reps with the number two offense, where with Jake Tonjas, we were like, maybe Mac is just going to the guys that he's comfortable with. Obviously there was no rookie Piersol, no Juwan Jennings.
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There was no one else, though, all.
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The second team but DeMarcus Robinson, who also, like, you know, he's been out for three weeks. Yeah, I don't know. I would just think about that. I was like, maybe Mac just was, like comfortable with that.
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I would agree if it was. But he was also throwing to McCaffrey, but he was the only other starter there.
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I just, you know, there's like, it's a law in California. You have to throw the ball to Christian McCaffrey.
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Oh, that's. Of course. Yes, of course.
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Certain number of times a game.
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All right. Zach Hertz at 19 coming off a dud last week, but he's been fine.
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He had a bye week last week, right?
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah. I. I mean, if you started him, he did.
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It feels like it.
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Yeah.
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I really expected him to do more without Terry McLaren being in the offense. It's just been all. And Luke McCaffrey and everyone else. Anyways, keep going.
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I have a lot of Ben Senate and Dynasty, so I would like them to turn the corner. This one's the interesting one for sure. But I talked about him yesterday as a guy you can consider selling Dalton Kincaid way down the ranks. This guy's averaging 13 points per game. I have him at 20 this week. I talked yesterday about the reasons I'm concerned, including not clearing six targets in a game. And he can disappear quick, the way they spread the ball around. Also, Atlanta has led the fewest fantasy points to tight ends this season. They've been dominant in that area. And that's points per game. Obviously, they've had their buy. So I'm. I'm out on Kincaid for sure.
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Yeah, Kincaid had. And I feel like he's. You've already mentioned this basically, Mike, but there was a game where he had like, yeah, one catch for 28 yards, two targets and a touchdown.
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More of those. We've had that. We've seen some of the ceiling games.
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Yeah.
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I'm not sure we're going to sustain.
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That unless he's getting in the end zone like you're not really feeling it. So he just kind of feels like a touchdown dependent tight end right now.
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Last year, Joanne Johnson, keeping an eye on his, you know, health. Expect him to play, but we're going to get more taste, some Hill as we go forward. Yeah, yeah. And Foster Moreau is going to get some targets, too. And then the next one is. This was a popular waiver ad this week, guys. A.J. barner for Seattle. My concern with him is that Elijah Arroyo hasn't been playing as well. And I think just as time goes on, they're going to have to find ways to work him in. So I think Barner's fine, but I don't think it's. It feels like Tyler Higby almost. Right. It's just. I don't know if he's ever gonna get over the top yeah, Starter.
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I like that comp. I like that I've been waiting for Elijah Arroyo to be the guy because I have a lot of best ball shoes.
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Oh, yeah. I have him in Dynasty as well. And then you get Jatavian Sanders, John who Smith, Chico Conquo o Conqueror's going down with Gunner Helm taking on a larger role. So I'd be worried about him. Kate on Hunter Long for Jacksonville, Mike Isicki, Tyler Higby. I just mentioned Helm. Like so many guys, this is just so many.
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Remember last year when John who Smith was like a top five tight end and then he got traded to be back into Arthur Smith offense and then tight end was just decimated and still Janu Smith is outside the top 20 again.
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Yeah, I mean, last game we saw them, basically they benched Friarmouth and Smith for Darrell Washington.
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Darnell Washington, huge too.
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I love watching him play football.
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By the way, they.
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He said, Darrell, they play the Browns this weekend too, so you got to imagine there'll be a lot of Darnell Washington to help for. By the way, blocking Myles Garrett.
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That's. I would love it if they featured him more because that guy is massive. Like, when he catches the ball, you're like, you know, why is an offensive lineman catching the football?
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You don't actually know if he catches it because you can'. No. Inside of his hands. Like, did it go right through his hands or is it stuck? Bear claws.
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I want them to feature him.
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Why is Andre the Giant half football pads on? I don't understand what's happening here.
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Rules.
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All right, nice job, Matt. All right, next one here I got. That's because you call him Darryl. Thank you. I know. I appreciate you Field. I know, I know. We're almost PE friends. We're so close to being there. I got a couple of. I just want to talk about matchups here more than anything because I got two really good running backs. But I just want to highlight to everybody, every time that we talk about these. These teams, we just seem to find ourselves always wanting to play running backs against these guys. So Josh Jacobs.
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Yep.
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This week against the Cincinnati Bengals. Play him because of that. Not just because he's Josh Jacobs, although you're going to play him anyways. But Josh Jacobs Over 20 touches in every single game this year. Super safe floor. 12 or more fantasy points in every single game went off in Week 4. 26 touches, 154 yards, four catches and two touchdowns. And this week he's to take on the Bengals, who have given up the most fantasy points to running backs. In fact, every single team a running back has had at least 16 and a half fantasy points that have played the Cincinnati Bengals this year. The Lions had two guys that had over 16 and a half fantasy points take on the Bengals. Josh Jacobs is the only guy there. He is a top five option here in week six plus 275 to score two touchdowns at ESPN BET. I think that might not be a bad idea here with Josh Jacobs. Wow.
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Really? To score two and to score one I think is like minus.
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He's like minus two something. Yeah. It's crazy. So they definitely. We think Josh Jacobs is going to find the end zone once. The other one is Ashton Genti taking on the Tennessee Titans. Ashton Genti on the heels of back to back monster games. 19 touches and over 100 yards from scrimmage in both of those games. Things I don't want to say they're coming together for the Raiders, but it kind of feels like we're getting things moving in the right direction for Ashton Genti and this running game a little bit.
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We are. You know what, and let me pull this up. It'll take me a second. You guys keep talking because I do think the like it's to the eye. The yards before contact is definitely improving.
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Feels better, right?
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Yeah, much, much better.
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Titans have given up at least 20 fantasy points to opposing teams running backs every single week this season. They've allowed eight touchdowns to running backs. That is the Most in the NFL. Ashton Genti minus 1:30 to score a touchdown at ESPN. Bet I'm all over that one as well. Third most points to the position including huge games to Jonathan Taylor had over 32 fantasy points. Woody Marks had over 28 fantasy points just this last week. Michael Carter coming straight off the bench had over 18 fantasy points. So he checks in for me as running back nine. The main takeaway here though is you are obviously already going to start Ashton Genty and Josh Jacobs. It's just to always remember right now in 2025, if your running backs play the Cincinnati Bengals or the Tennessee Titans, find a way to get him in your fantasy lineup.
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Just to put a number to what I was suggesting about Ashton Gen Z, this is not a great number when you look at it relative to most running backs. But compared to where it was for Genty after just a couple of weeks, it's much incredible. He's now at 1.32 yards per rush before contact.
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Okay.
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Or before contact per rush. So we are definitely seeing better offensive line play of late for the Raiders which Last week actually happened without their best offensive lineman in Colton Miller, who.
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Is now it wasn't it basically zero? I mean wasn't he like it was negative. Yeah, okay.
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It was negative zero.
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So we're progressing.
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We're moving in the right direction that you kind of see that.
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Right direction. Good matchup. Is Daniel mentioned There is a very, very banged up lion secondary that will travel to Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday night for a game that I can't wait to see. The Lions so far this season have been dead middle 16th in fantasy points per game versus opposing quarterbacks. Is there a potential mammoth Mahomes game coming on Sunday night? Daniel, you can earmuff it for this part. Mike Clay trivia right here. How many players have scored 25 points or more in a game this year more times than Patrick Mahomes? How many quarterbacks are players players in all fantasy football? We've played five weeks of games. How many have more than Patrick Mahomes games with 25?
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Say he is three. I will say two.
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I I don't.
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There's got to be more quarterback.
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So I know that. I know that DAK Prescott has two games over 28 fantasy points. So I'm gonna say Dak is the.
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Only let's say eight because of quarterbacks.
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Eight. There are zero players more 25 plus fantasy point games and Patrick Mahomes. Right. So he' no one has even four. It's Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, one of their quarterback and Jonathan Taylor. Apologies for not I think is not in there. No, he's close but not wow. But the bottom line is that Mahomes has had a lot of ceilings so far this season with one notable caveat. There is a common thread in each of Patrick Mahomes 25 + fantasy point games. That thread is that he has 50 or more rushing yards in all three of those games. Mike Clay trivia Once again, how many design runs does Patrick Mahomes have this season?
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Design runs? Two.
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I would say two as well.
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You guys are correct. The answer is two.
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Wow.
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No way.
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So it's a weird thing. It's like, you know, the rushing is really good, but the only way the rushing happens is if the offensive line has some struggles with the Lions defensive front. It's just harder to predict scrambles than it is designed runs. So it's a weird one. I think we all have Mahomes as a starter. I think the question is, is the Smash week inevitable against a Lions team that this week will be without three of their top four cornerbacks? Compared to the start of training camp, there will be no Terrion Arnold, there will be no DJ Reed. Enes rickshaw got hurt in training camp so he has been out. But still the point is August 1st, if you are looking at this matchup, you're saying here's the secondary October 9th, you're looking at this matchup and it's a very different look at that secondary.
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Amik Robertson and Rakia Sin just kind of hit a little bit different than those other guys.
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Ray Flowers, Avante Maddox, those are the guys that are going to be also.
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Kirby Jo Joseph was a dnp. I do think we have two of the better safeties in the league with Brian Branch and Kirby Joseph. But like we need both of those guys out there with the cornerbacks depth that we're dealing with.
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So I think there's a chance for a big day for Patrick Mahomes. I would say personally in terms of like the possibility of Mahomes having season long top three to five quarterback upside, I would like Mahomes to get the job done through the air more than just as a scrambler because I think the scrambling is more difficult to predict. Week over.
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Yeah. Still the past. They're the past heaviest offense in the NFL now. They passed the Chargers last week and they're averaging about three touchdowns again. They're kind of back from where they've been the last couple of years. Where they've been.
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They just below average at all.
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Yeah, they can't. But that's good for homes. But, but they have. I mean they're, they're, you know, we'll say game script adjusted pass rate is similar to where it's been the last few years. Even when you know, Pacheco is running well. So they're just, they just choose to throw the ball up.
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Yeah, they, you know.
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All right, can I tell you guys really quickly that Patrick Mahomes is third in the NFL in fantasy points via the rush amongst the quarterback position.
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Yeah, that sounds right.
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Which is crazy scrambles. He just doesn't do that anyways. All right, let's keep going. Mike, give me another one.
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I'm gonna stick with quarterbacks here. Two guys coming off big games and playing at a very high level right now. One I like and one I don't like this week. The one I do not like, fellas is Sam Darnold. Do not like in fantasy, to be very clear, coming off A huge game, 28 of 34, 341 yards, four touchdowns last week was QB3 with 27.6 fantasy points. And I lay that all out because it was his first top eight fantasy outing of the entire season. He entered the week with one weekly finish better than 18th. That was ninth in week three and a total of five touchdowns. Again, he had four in that game. He entered the game with five on the entire season. He is seventh in passing yards, but it's a very run heavy offense. He's 21st in pass attempts and this is a little disappointing based on what we saw last season. Now we don't expect him to be a big rusher, but he's doing basically nothing. He has 38 yards on three carries this entire season. So we can't count on much from him rushing. They're going into Jacksonville. It's a long trip for them. They have faced the second most pass attempts, have the Jags this season, but lead the NFL with 10 interceptions and the third lowest EPA against the pass. So he might have to throw the ball a lot but they've been very effective against the pass. Darnold's not running. He's not throwing it enough. I'm worried about him. I think he comes crashing back to earth in fantasies. Playing fine.
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I was going to say fantasy. Just not a good option when you use the word. Super disappointing about Sam Darnold. I was like you're the first person to say that about Sam so far this year because the Seahawks made an audacious bet to trade Geno Smith. Yeah, sign Sam Darnold.
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Looking like a good move.
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Looking like a stroke of genius. Yeah, like not only do they get younger but they got a third round pick in the, in the, in the mix as well. And they also got an upgraded quarterback. So big time move there by Seattle. So you don't like him, but you.
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Do like I do like Matthew Stafford. That's a guy that's the streamer of the week. I think in fantasy. And this is a guy that has. Speaking of not rushing the ball, negative four rushing arch. So he's actually hurt you. It'd be better off if he didn't do anything with his legs than it is with him actually losing four yards. However, he does have 375 plus passing yards and three touchdowns in two straight games. 25 plus fantasy points in both of those leads the NFL on passing second and pass attempts, completions and touchdowns. I still don't like them long term. This is a guy that's been 17th or lower on points per game each of the last three years, has one rushing touchdown since 2017. So. So I don't think this will sustain all year long. However, they're playing the Baltimore Ravens, who are still very injury plagued. They've had the most passing touchdowns in our top three yards in fantasy points allowed to quarterbacks this season.
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This game is in la, right?
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It is in Baltimore.
C
Okay, it's in Baltimore.
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But I don't know that that matters because the Ravens are so shorthanded. I know.
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That's the thing.
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And the Rams are playing so well. I mean I have Stafford a QB5. I think he's this is gonna be the dull week to play.
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Do you ever have those moments though where you rank a player really high and you're still like a little bit nervous because this is one of those.
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Justin Fields last week that almost went terribly. I mean the garbage time saved our butts on that one.
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And the only reason why I'm a little nervous about Matthew Stafford, who I still have ranked as quarterback five and I have him as a streaming option to league this week and I will most likely no I will be starting him is just like football narrative here. The Ravens, who are just down for the count right now, they know that they need that bye week which is coming next week. And Lamar Jackson probably is available on the other side of the bye week, probably not available this week. Kyle Hamilton might practice. Maybe they'll get a couple of defensive reinforcements back. Proud organization, completely embarrassed last week at home. Can we really get embarrassed in back to back weeks or they make it kind of competitive? I mean the Rams just lost to a team that was down there starting quarterback, two top wide receivers, their best defensive player and a few others I know I was picking out of both sides of my mouth because I think.
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The Rams are going to feel the same way. Right?
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The Rams are coming in with some hot tanks, I feel.
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There we go Field. Here's the thing. I feel like you're couching expectations on Matthew Stafford right now.
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I mean I have missed quarterback five, so I want to be very clear that I have the player as an obvious start. I just am like a touch more nervous compared to other quarterbacks that I have in that range.
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There's Hundreds of.
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On October 10th, we came here from the digital world.
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The war for our world begins. What in God's name is that?
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You and I, Max. This is the end to this world.
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No, it's not.
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But I can help you. Tron Ares treated PG13 may be inappropriate for children under 13.
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Only in theaters October 10th.
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Get tickets now.
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Speaking of couching expectations, Mike, can we get an update on the couch situation that we had yesterday?
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We have a couch.
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You have a couch, Officially. All right, congratulations.
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My neighbor was kind enough to go over and let them in, so we. Oh, wow.
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I just got the Adam Shafter tweet notification.
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Oh, nice.
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Yeah, nice.
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We got this. Old couch gets gone. It's shipped back on its way back to California. New couch. It's been delivered, so rest easy.
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Did you get to sit on it last night?
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We did. Sat on a little bit. We on it to dinner with Tyler and Jazzy, but when we came back, we relaxed a little bit for a couple minutes.
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What's its. What's its comfort ranking?
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You know the funny thing, and this is what I learned. It's new sofas will take a little. Yes, yes. It has upside, right?
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It has upside.
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It's very good. But there's upside for even more as you break it in a little bit.
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Yeah, of course, here.
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But of course, came with an insane amount of pillows.
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Really?
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I literally can't express how many pillows.
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You're like, I don't know what to do with all this pillow. I don't know what to do with them.
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Yeah, I don't know what to do with it. That'll help. Way too many pillows. It's unnecessary.
A
All right, I'm gonna talk about one more player here really quickly. Actually, I got two more players. I think we got a couple more that we can dive into. But I'm gonna talk about James Cook really quickly.
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Okay.
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You may be saying, why are you talking about the running back four? The dude's been awesome. And again, this is one of those, like, matchups that I just want to be able to highlight James Cook in case you don't roster him. And if you roster him, you probably already know this, but he started the season on fire.
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Yeah.
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18 or more touches and 100 yards from scrimmage and a touchdown in every single game to start the season through his first four games. Last week, unfortunately fell flat in like a major way in this weird game against the Patriots. Only 4.9 fantasy points unfortunately wasn't great. This week, though, gets the Falcons run defense, and this is not the Falcons that you saw in 2024. This defense looks markedly different than what you saw last year. Only two running backs have top 10 fantasy points, and nobody has topped 14 and a half fantasy points. It's been a really low ceiling for running back so far this year. No one at the running back position has even hit 80 yards from scrimmage so far this season. Oh, and they've only allowed one rushing touchdown to running back. So, like, they have been really, really good. Naturally, that would mean they've probably allowed the fewest fantasy points to the position. And they have. So if you're wondering why, when you look at the rankings and you're trying to decide who do I need to start this week? Why is the guy that's ranked RB4 in the season all the way down outside the top 10? He's actually running back 12 right now in consensus. It's just because this Falcons defense is that legit. Still starting James Cook, not taking him out of the lineup, but just lowering my expectations a little bit because of.
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The defense that could call it.
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That's all it is.
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Just want to make sure Monday Night Football doubleheader this week in the following week as well. Week seven, the double header, 7:00pm And 10:00pm PM oh, boy. So we got Seattle versus Houston in Seattle, 10:00 clock kickoff. So.
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Wow, that's.
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That's.
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You said week.
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Week seven.
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Okay. Yes.
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And this week it's a 7:15, 8:15 or something like that.
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Yeah.
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So Tuesday's Fantasy Focus podcast will be a viewing party the second half of.
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That game is what you're saying.
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Either that or it will be a few. I will have an iv. That is just caffe.
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That's right. Yeah. Yeah.
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You can make it.
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Yeah, that'll be fun.
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All right. The. The punishment that week is you have to make it all the way through. You have to prove you're awake after the game ends.
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That would be so good. I watch people do like these like streamers that do video game stuff. They'll be like I'm going to stream for 24 straight hours. I wonder if there's a way that we could set up like a punishment where it's like you've got to watch football for 24 straight hours without. That sounds like fun. Okay. The guy Sorry guys. That sounds like Sundays.
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Hang out on the new sofa. I see up watching football.
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I know that there's been a lot of conversation about this because last week's Sunday slate wasn't great during the day. Yep, I am. But I am. So maybe this is where we are the exception and not the rule because we are going to be watching football no matter what in full on.
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We're degenerates of course.
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I freaking love the prime time slate this year. Like the double header for week six was really good. This week Washington, Chicago's Chicago, it's good. Next week Tampa at Detroit. Do your Lions only play primetime games?
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It's honestly, I think we only played four games in the 1 o' clock window this week.
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Oh, that'll change. Like the Chiefs have played like one one o' clock game over the past nine seasons.
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Yeah, that's what happens. I love it actually, because when I leave here, it's behind the curtain. We'll get back to football. But when I leave here on Sundays after fantasy football now I got a half hour drive home. So in those Lions games I'm, I'm missing the entire first quarter. So not having to like worry about that is really nice. It's a, it's a big thing for me.
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I'm going to tag team my last preview point as we keep things moving here. We talked a little bit about this earlier or suggested it. Are you guys concerned about starting Justin Fields and or Garrett Wilson against the Broncos in London? Justin Fields and Garrett Wilson both paid off in a major way last week. Wilson has been awesome so far this season. He's a top five scoring wide receiver. Fields has been what he normally is, which is plenty of rushing upside mixed in with some passing or with some passing mixed in. The Broncos are different though, than basically every team the jets have faced so far this season. The Broncos have allowed the third fewest fantasy points to opposing quarterbacks. They have not faced the most difficult slate. That being said, they have stood the test against some good offenses and they've allowed the fifth fewest fantasy points to opposing wide receivers. They've allowed the second fewest passing touchdowns. So if you're hoping for junk time from Justin Fields late in games, the Broncos defense, which is, I would argue, deep Too. Like, they don't necessarily give you a lot in garbage time. And Mike, of course, Garrett Wilson could very well. Excuse me. In that same game, we might have a shadow for Cortland Sutton, not Garrett Wilson.
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Or maybe Garrett Wilson, too. Yeah, maybe both. Both. Well, yeah, we're going to get to that in the shadow reports. I'll leave it there for now, but.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Justin Fields.
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Can I definitely concern.
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Yeah. Can I tell you guys one thing about Justin Fields? Because I was looking this up. Broncos have been excellent against mobile quarterbacks. What's the one thing that Justin Fields does well? We know that he utilizes his leg, second in the NFL and rushing amongst quarterbacks. Broncos played Daniel Jones, he had six carries for two yards against him. Played Jalen Hurts. He's a good rushing quarterback. 2 carries for 3 yards. Played Justin Herbert, he's mobile. He can use his legs. Two carries for six yards. Jake Browning, three carries for four yards. And Cam Ward didn't have a single rushing yard.
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Interesting.
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They have allowed 15 rushing yards to quarterback so far this year. Now taking on Justin Fields. So this is one of those tests where it's like, what are you watching in this game? Is Justin Fields going to be better than the defense with his legs? Because that's what I want to see.
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14 for me this week is Justin.
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I wonder if that shows a great defense or. They went into the season looking at this schedule thinking, this is a priority for us. Like, I play all these mobile quarterbacks.
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We got to find a way to figure it out.
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Interesting.
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ESPN bet line is at 35 and a half for Justin Fields rushing line. So I think it's an interesting one.
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Hammer in the under on that one. All right, one more for me, one more for you. Mike Clay, Alvin Camara, is he out of the lineup? Law conversation.
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I believe so.
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Yeah.
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I wrote about this in the playbook. Line of block.
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No more.
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One touchdown this season. That was in week one.
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Yep.
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He has cleared 72 yards once. That was in week two. And he took. He needed 27 touches to get there, which is against 72 yards, which is not a number that he could do that. Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Sorry.
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You're not that athletic. Yeah. So it's the only time he's gotten to 72 yards. He needed that many touches, which, again, you can't count on from him. And he's averaging 11.4 fantasy points per game this season. He is 11th in carries, which is good. That's higher than he is most seasons. But his receiving is down. That's a concern. Concern. 10th in catches among running backs. He has never finished lower than fifth in his entire career. He's 30 years old, so that's a little bit of a concern. Also, he did not lead the team in carries last. Last week. That was Kendra Miller Camara, by the way, missing some practice time. So we'll see if he's even a go this week.
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Limited yesterday.
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Yeah, that's right. Limited. We expect them to play, obviously, if you're limited. But definitely some concerns here. And they're playing the Patriots. You just talked about how they held James Cook in check. They're allowing 3.2 yards per carry this season. That is third lowest in the NFL. Fifth fewest fantasy points are running back.
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I know we're process driven. Mike especially is process driven. But look at the finishes for Alvin Camaro so far this season. RB23, RB17. That's his best. RB45, 27 and 30.
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Exactly right.
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Gross.
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Yeah. He's going. They're scaling him back a little bit.
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They are. He's an interesting trade candidate. My buddy or our buddy Nick Underhill, who does an amazing job with New Orleans stock football. I know Saints fans are all over, has talked about how he doesn't get the sense that Alvin, if they're going to make trades of veteran players and Knicks reported they might be open to offers. Doesn't sound like Alvin's the kind of guy they would trade away. He's very dedicated to New Orleans, but he would be an intriguing name that if they ever change their stance on that, if Camaro could be shipped elsewhere with a couple of contenders in need of a running back, that might be the best boost to his fantasy value. If he stays with the Saints. It just feels like the ceiling is pretty low here.
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Camara to the Chiefs would be awesome.
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Everybody and their sister wants to make a Chiefs trade right now. Bree Hall, Alvin Camara, you name it. Chiefs.
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I don't want to do that. But when you have a great week. Yeah, when you have a great team like that, that is a clear void. It's so easy to connect.
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The Chiefs and the Bears are two teams that just seem to me, like, legitimate.
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Yeah, I think the bears just love DeAndre Swift. I feel like internally they're probably just like, why do people keep, like, connecting us to running backs? We just signed DeAndre Swift last year.
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So they're like a younger, like, still on the rise team, whereas the Chiefs are like, like, we're at championship level. We don't have, like, we don't waste years because There are no years to waste.
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Right, Right.
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Anyway, so it's going to feel so weird that Alvin Camara is where he's at, given the game script idea or the narrative of the Saints are down, they're throwing the ball a ton and that's like what leads into what gives us his fantasy production. Yeah, like all these things that like feel like they're lined up for Camara to be good and it's just still not working out.
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30 year old running back trying to work in Kendra Miller. Now Taysom Hill is going to steal touchdowns too.
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I mean, I don't like it, Michael. All right, I got one more for you guys. I think Dak Prescott is ranked too low.
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Okay.
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I think it was supposed to be a question. See, on the, on the slate it says Dak Prescott ranked too low because it was supposed to be a question. And I decided overnight it's not a question, it's just a statement. You guys just have him ranked too low. He's first in pass attempts, he's second in passing yards, third in passing touchdowns. He's got 10 of them. That all sounds pretty good. Oh, by the way, he's doing it out with, doing it all without a guy named CD Lamb, who's pretty good at football. Week two he had over 22 fantasy points. Week four, he had over 31 fantasy points. Week five, he had over 28 fantasy points. If you throw out week one of the season, and trust me, as a Lions fan, I would love to throw out week one of the season, but if you can throw out week one of the season, Dak Prescott as quarterback one in total fantasy points and points per game, he has been unbelievable and now he gets the Carolina Panthers. So maybe. All right, so we know Dak is really good based on all the stats that I just gave out. Now I'm looking at The Carolina Panthers 9th Fewest Fantasy Points to quarterbacks this year. All right, maybe they've. It's just like a really tough matchup. But is it really? Is it really, guys?
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You tell me.
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I love you both. Trevor Lawrence in week one. Trevor Lawrence is quarterback 18 on the season. Kyler Murray in week two, Kyler's week, quarterback 17 on the season. Michael Penix in week three, quarterback 27 on the season. Drake May in week four finally played a guy that's inside the top 10. He's quarterback seven. And then week five played Tua, he's quarterback 19. So they've not played a single quarterback other than Drake May, who's been better than quarterback 17. So far this year. And now you've got the guy that leads the NFL and basically pass attempts, passing yardage, and passing touchdowns, or he's at least in the top three of all of those categories. And I feel like. I don't know why we have him ranked so low.
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I.
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Maybe I'm just a believer in Dak Prescott.
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Go ahead.
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I'll give you two reasons. One, he's 21st in carries. That's still a problem.
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Problem.
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And he has his. He has his one rush down per season.
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Yep.
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Yes.
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He scored his. His rushing touchdown, so that's behind us. Okay. Scores one one of the season, maybe he'll get two, but generally one. And it's the guys ahead of him that we have. Okay, so I have him at 7 or. I have him. Excuse me. I have him at nine. Jaden Daniels, who's been out. I mean, he's back now, has Chicago. Josh Allen, of course. Jalen Hurts, of course. Sure. Justin Herbert is Miami. Matthew Stafford is Baltimore. We love them.
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Love both of those. I'm with you on.
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Caleb Williams is back from by against Washington. Washington. Great.
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Looking good. Great matchups.
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He's talked about him running and throwing.
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He's behind Dak Prescott.
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All right. And Baker Mayfield, he is in front of Dak. Terrific as well. He's averaging more fantasy points for him than Dak this year, who you mentioned putting all them passing numbers up, as is Mahomes, by the way, who's averaging 23 to Dax, 20 a game. So that's it. That's all I have ahead of him. And I. I'm comfortable with that.
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I got Dak Prescott at quarterback six right now. Consensus behind him. Quarterback nine behind Dak Prescott is Justin Herbert, Caleb Williams, Baker Mayfield and Pat.
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Or bet each other.
B
Oh, my goodness.
C
Six to ten, six to nine.
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Yeah. How. How high do you think Dak finishes this week is the question.
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Well, I've got him ranked as quarterback six.
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Okay.
A
So I am fine saying that Dak finishes as a top five quarterback. Let's say top six quarterback. Are you okay with saying top six?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
B
All right.
A
But wait, you've got him at 10.
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I got him at nine. Nine. Yeah.
A
I really should get at least seven. I should get top six.
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I'm asking you. You take what you want.
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Are you okay with seven?
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I have no skin in the game.
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I think that Dak Prescott finishes as a top seven guy. You think he finishes as quarterback nine or lower. And if he finishes his quarterback eight. Exactly. Then Field wins.
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He'll get you half Dollars from each of you.
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That's it. Okay.
A
All right. So I say Dak Prescott is a top seven quarterback here in week six.
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I say Dak Prescott finishes ninth or lower at quarterback in fantasy points this week.
C
And I say Dak Prescott finishes exactly as quarterback.
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Put it on the board. All right, that's what we needed.
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That's what we needed.
C
Rip through some stuff here. We had a lot to get to in the last 15 minutes.
B
Yes, we really do. Yeah. We got shadow. Oh, Thursday night. Okay, let's do Shadow report really quick. Ready?
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We're gonna do before we do the shadow report. It's all right, Mike. Just one second. I'm gonna do one thing, and then we'll dive in, because right now it's time for the Real Deal presented by Little Caesars. We are picking one player rostered under 60% each week. If they reach 15 fantasy points or more, you get to come back on Monday for a 15% off promo code from Little Caesars. And this week, Mike decided to rain on our parade because the options are pretty limited. But we're going with the quarterback named Sam Darnold this week.
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Wow.
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Mike, who's projected for 15.1 fantasy points over the Jaguars each of the last four weeks. 15.8, 16.7, 16.1, and 27.6. He's hit this line four straight weeks in a row. The connection with JSN looks a little. Maybe he gets a deep shot to Tori Horton or find some of his other guys there. So I'm looking for 200 passing yards and two touchdowns against the Jags. That'll get us to 15 fantasy points. That is why Sam Darnold is our Week 6 Real Deal Player here, presented by Little Caesars.
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Well done, man.
B
For people watching the show are gonna be like, ah, man, I wanted pizza.
A
No, shoot. Sam Darnold. Here's the thing. Sam Darnold can get to 15 fantasy points and still not be a good fantasy quarterback. And we can both win this.
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Yeah, that was a joke. I have him at 15.1 points. So he's gonna get there.
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Of course he's gonna get there.
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Much like dart, right? Didn just get there.
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Just got there.
C
You'll be throwing a dart on your Sam Darnold projection.
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Ooh, I like that more.
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And see how close we get. All right. All right. Ready? Yes. Shadow Report, super quick. All this is laid out in detail in the shadow or in the playbook, which is@espn.com so you can go over there and check that out. But great. Here's what we got upgrades. Shadow report upgrades. Panthers receivers against the Cowboys. So Tedro McMillan and even Xavier Leggette who I'd like to see more volume. But how about that touchdown?
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Touchdown was nice.
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Awesome. That guy is terrible talent. So like them for sure. Rams receivers against the Ravens. We already talked about this matchup. So you know Puka Koa, devonte Adams are starting them. Little sleeper appeal for two to Atwell.
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How often do we have two wide receivers from the same team ranked as top three wide receivers? Every week. That's how good this matchup is.
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I would. I'm sure there's a way to check this. It would require way too much effort. But it's probably been a long time.
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Yeah, I can't even think of who would be. I'd have to think about that.
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Brandon Marshall, T. Higgins and Jamar Chase. Like, but what kind of a matchup would you need to have t be that high? You know what I mean? Like, it's crazy that they're both as high as they are. It's wild. Incredible matchup.
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No doubt. So we got the Rams against the Ravens who are still shorthanded in the secondary. Probably no Uzi or Marlon Humphrey again this week. Titans receivers against the Raiders. We pick on them every single week. But Calvin Ridley coming off a good game, finally in a good matchup as another good matchup. So good news for him and Fields Guy, Ella, Gael Manor and then Chiefs receivers against the Lions. You touched. Touched on this earlier. Earlier. Top two corners. Most notably the top two corners, Arnold and Reed are going to be out for this game. Sets up the Chiefs. Well, the lines as is have allowed the fourth most touchdowns or receivers on the season. Now they're down their top two corners. So Chiefs receivers like Xavier Worthy obviously being the main one in a very good spot this week.
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That checks out though, right? I mean Lions giving up that many touchdowns to receivers because with them scoring the most points in the NFL, like people just have to play come from behind. Right. You're doing a of lot of. A lot of passing.
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Yeah. Seven fantasy points allowed. Yeah, we saw that last year as well. Even when they were playing well for this game.
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Man, it's going to be a really fun one. Yeah, it's going to be really fun.
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Last game, of course for the Chiefs without Rasheed Rice as well. So.
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Yeah, that's right. Big one. Big one.
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Grateful for that.
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Shake things up. Yeah.
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Yes.
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A lot of investment there.
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Glad it paid. Yes. Yes. Well, both glad that we're going to get Rashid Rice back next week and that he's not coming back this week. I'm threatening the needle.
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I believe the commanders in week seven.
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That's for fine matchup.
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And really, I'm good with us. Let me get that correctly. Oh, that's week eight. My bad.
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Ready? Ready for downgrades. I'm trying to be fast here. I know.
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Fight, fight, fight.
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You good?
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Yeah, I'm good.
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Okay, downgrades, guys. I only got two here and there in the same game. Corin Sutton is going to draw the Sauce Gardner shadow in this game.
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Two catches last week.
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Yeah, he did. He's playing well. What's more interesting about this is. And yeah, sauce is the last. He shouted DK Metcalf, Mike Evans, George Pickens, they've all been under 14 fantasy points, all above 12, but below 14.
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Which Broncos pass catcher steps up here outside of Cortland Sutton.
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So that's the next part of this because that's interesting. He shadowed in those three games. Okay, so of course it was the Steelers, the Bucks and the Cowboys. The three highest scoring receivers against the jets this season were the secondary receivers in those same games.
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Wow.
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So the guys opposite Ryan, Metcalfe, Evans and Pickens, Flournoy, Calvin Austin and Emeka Buka, they all had 14 plus fantasy points. They're the only ones that have scored 14 points against this team, against the jets this season.
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Is that Marvin Mims? Is that Evan Ingram? Is that Troy Franklin? Which one is it?
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Troy Franklin, Marvin Ames and Pat Bryant's had an extended role the last few weeks as well.
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It's going to be somebody that we're not talking about like the.
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It's going to Sherfield. Yes.
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Sherfield, wearing number five is going to have two touchdowns anyway.
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I think that's, you know, deeply.
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I like it, Mike.
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That was very fascinating.
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Now, long shots.
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Yeah, because. Yeah, yeah, because they wouldn't work because.
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We have the game already going. But yeah, the point still holds.
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Sauce Gardner's done well, but the jets overall have led the second highest DPA against the past. So it shows you the guys away from where Sauce is. He'll be Sutton. Looking good. So very fast.
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Good nugget, Mike.
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Maybe that would have been a good. Check this out.
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Yeah, that's all right.
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If I wanted to check this out and I said no, that would have been the one. Garrett Wilson, same game. Patan, he is shadowed in every game this season. The point totals in those games, six points from the number one receivers he's faced. 6.7, 8.0, 14.9, 7.3 and last week against A.J. brown 9.3. That's 9.2 fantasy points per game. Gary Wilson draws him in this game. It's going to be tough.
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It's so great that the one guy that scored 14.9 is Quinton Johnson. Out of all the people.
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Don't hate, don't hate, don't hate. I like going back to the well with Johnson this week. He didn't score last week, had a down game, but I expect him to be the week this week.
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That's right.
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It's been awesome. Two other shadows guys not really moving the needle here, so don't worry too much about him. Marvin Harrison Jr. Against Charvarius Ward. I think he'll shadow him. He shadowed in a couple games but not super concerned about this because the Colts are thrown on a lot and have a lot of the fifth most fantasy points to receivers this season. And then Drake London against Christian Benford. Benford shadowed Garrett Wilson, Tyreek Hill and Chris Alave. They were fine. Benford's not playing at a super high level so far this season. White on the other side is Shadow. Jalen Waddle and Rashid Shahid were fine. He'll see Darnell Mooney in this game. But again, these ones just those guys haven't played well enough that I'm super concerned about them.
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Does seem like we'll see. Darnell Mooney as well. Had a bye week last week and then he was hurt before that, so. But it does sound like he will be back. I think that most notably factors in for Kyle Pitt's managers that were looking for volume there, but just a good mention. All right. Nice job, Mike Clay. Go check that out@espn.com the the we call it the Shadow Report. It's actually called the Playbook. The Shadow Report in the Playbook is no longer. Yeah, exactly. They've all been baked into one thing now.
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Like working smarter, not harder.
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Casserole. Like a ratatouille. Some might say ratatouille had that last night. That's right.
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Anyone can cook.
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Let's do a little Thursday Night Football preview. Mike, I can't help but notice you're wearing your Kelly green sweater as the Giants take on the Eagles.
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My uniform here, I got the green shoe sneakers.
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You got green sneakers on. Let's see them.
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Let's see. Yeah, I got the green. Look at that.
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That's sweet.
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Yeah, man. I like that.
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Mike Clay and I will be in attendance tonight for the game.
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Whoa.
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Yep.
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Headed down.
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That's amazing because the my main takeaway that I'm watching for is to see if I can see you and Mike in the stands, obviously shirtless with body paint, holding up signs.
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And we're going to the game together because we're pee friends.
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Oh, no, no.
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God. Now you know we had to break the news.
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Oh, this is how I find out in front of everybody at home. Mom and D is watching.
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Yeah. She'll be so disappointed. Sorry.
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Oh, yeah, sorry. Well, if I bet if the Lions were playing the the Giants and you'd be. Pete.
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Yes.
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Eagle.
A
So no, you guys are going to have a ton of fun at the game tonight. Going to be a blast, obviously. What are you watching for while you were down there at the stadium?
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One thing on my mind tonight is tonight. The Saquon breakout night. Yeah. Feels like it could be the one because they play the Giants. Who I'm not talking about just the revenge factor, but I'm sure Saquon will have just a tiny extra bit of motivation playing as a visitor at MetLife Stadium against the Giants for the second time in his career. But the Giants are also allowing 140 rushing yards per game. They have really struggled against the run so far this season. I am big believer. I talked about this on NFL Live yesterday. I think the Eagles offense is going to figure some things out. When you're at the top, you don't get as much grace to begin the season. People expect you to come back and be the exact same level that you were for the Lions. It took them one game to get back on track. For the Eagles, it's taking a little bit longer. I think the offense finds its way sooner rather than later. I think it begins tonight with a big sake. One night.
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Yeah. And this ESPN bet agrees with you because the props for the Eagles offensive players are high.
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I mean it would be half or sake one.
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Yeah. Which he's been there once this season. I mean, he doesn't have 100 yards in a game. A.J. brown's numbers are high. I mean the book, big expectations. The Eagles offense struggling.
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The best thing for a team that experienced its first loss in a long time. Short week on the road.
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Yeah.
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Eagles had no time to sulk over losing to the Buccaneers. I'm sorry to.
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Yeah, Broncos.
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You just turn around and get ready for the Giants.
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Yeah, I love that. They'll be okay for sure. By the way, Giants let down last week. I know some of you were a little more optimistic in the Saints, but I expected them to step up and like this is a good, talented defense and like Jackson dart game two Playing better than Russ was just disappointing. I thought they would be better this season. So we'll see if they show up for this game. Do you want mine?
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Yes.
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Theo Johnson, I'm watching him. We talked about him earlier in this game so I don't know if I have much more to add. Touchdown on five targets two weeks ago, two touchdowns and seven targets last week tied for the team lead and target storing that stretch again yet to clear 34 yards in a game. I'm curious to see if they utilize him more downfield, get him some big plays. But the Eagles have been very good against Titans NFL oh 4.1 yards or target. So ideally I'm not starting Theo Johnson this week but I think with neighbors out long term slate now, now fine to put on your bench.
A
Theo Johnson is one of those tight ends that because of the position right now that we're still kind of like waiting to see does something materialize because we've seen a little bit of production.
B
Right.
A
Theo Johnson we've seen it from Darren Waller is kind of the same way. I think Colson Loveland when he comes back like there's a couple of these.
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Guys by the way, that's another one. He's come out targets.
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He's the one that has my attention.
A
Yeah a lot of these guys that hopefully I mean with where the tight end position at is if Theo Johnson can establish himself, he could be a potential fantasy asset for us down the stretch. So I love that one as well. Mike. I am watching Cam's usage with Tracy integration in this offense. Cam Scatterbo had 48 touches over the last two weeks including eight receptions. He has been a monster right now in their backfield but how are they going to work Tracy back in? What's the split gonna look like? How much is it gonna take to ramp him back up to full speed?
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And this isn't even a questionable but reporting suggest he'll play like he's off. The report is Tyrone Tracy Jr. Entirely so we will see him tonight. Good call right there. Daniel.
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I will take the Eagles in this one.
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We'll take the Eagles as well. What's the score here Mike?
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Fly Eagles fly.
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I suggested 82 to 6 to Mike over text this morning. He thought that was a little bit off the mark.
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Did you see Jaden Daniels tweet about someone picked the score. It was like this, like it was our friends over at NFL Network like their score projections and someone had like 82 nothing for the Bears winning 3 0. Yeah, like who is this guy? Who is G. Daniels or whatever the. The.
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Or G. Jay Daniels. Yeah.
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No, it was just G. Whatever person that. That predicted that that was like the biggest blow in NFL history. So the guy. Oh, that's pretty. That. But anyway, I thought it was funny.
C
That he Did Jaden Daniels tweet that I thought Jaden.
B
Yeah, Jay and Daniels. I think it was deleted.
C
I don't think so. He's not up there anymore.
B
I don't know. Maybe somewhere else.
C
I don't know.
B
I saw it somewhere. I saw it earlier today. I. I don't know all the details, but I saw someone predicted that. I thought it was Jaden Daniels. Anyway, I have a 25 cent 17 Eagles.
A
2517. That's not bad. Not bad.
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I'll look for it later.
A
I don't know. Let's dive into our Raheem Sanders monopoly fund. My friends, I think I'm retired. Is that you're just going to go out on top.
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You know what, though? I was thinking about it. No, no, no, no. Honestly, the real pressure is on you now.
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It's on me.
B
It's on you. You're the only one that I got.
A
You guys have gotten it.
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And honestly, I feel like take Taekwond Thornton just. He keeps delivering like that was. Yeah, he's good. That's a good find.
C
Xavier Hutchinson now becomes the new Nico Collins. You guys have all been warned.
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That's true.
C
All right.
A
Why don't you go first field since you got two touchdowns last week, you obviously know what you're doing here.
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Yeah. So the new threshold is below 0.3%. We're going to be soon picking players that are not rostered in any leagues. My Pick actually had 9.9 fantasy points last week. It all came on four targets. My pick is Tess Johnson, wide receiver, Buccaneers. Last week, as I mentioned, 4 for 59 on those four targets.
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And.
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And Mike Evans unlikely to play this week. Chris Godwin had a smaller role last week. He did not practice yesterday. They're still sort of managing this fibula injury from last season. So give me Tez Johnson.
A
I like that. All right, I'm going to give you our producers pick. Our producers. We're going with Gunner Helm. I like rostered in 2% of leagues taken on the Raider.2% of leaks taking on the the Raiders this week. So that's where our producers are at. Like it, Mike, where are you going, bud?
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Continue to say he'll more and more and more.
B
Mine was on Monday, 0.0% roster. Now he's 0.1% roster.
A
You're moving the needle.
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Hunter Long. Oh, yes. Another tight end, Brenton Strange is out. And oh, Mike Hunter Long has two touchdowns this season already on eight targets. So he's going to play a larger role.
A
All right, I love that. And how about we just field. I feel like you missed the memo, but I'm going to go with a third tight end here this week, my friends, and go with Luke Musgrit. You had me at the Bengals. That's why.
B
Interesting.
A
It's just the Cincinnati Bengals.
B
I like it.
A
Why not? He's been getting a little bit of playing time. Not a ton of playing time. It's. These are dart throws. What do you want me to do?
C
As we talked about on Tuesday, the justification for your pick of a player who's available in all but point 2% of leagues is not usually a very strong justification. Correct. It's usually yolo.
B
I like it, though, because also we're looking at the. These deep guys and making. Giving some awareness because now people have heard of Gunner Helm that may not have.
C
I mean, we're batting.500 and Gunner Helm.
B
Like for a fourth round pick, he's making a quick impact. This could be at some point, at some time down the road, a fantasy starter, like. So I'm. It's good to. It's good to keep an eye on these guys.
A
So if we did a Tez Johnson, Gunner Helm, Luke Musgrave.
B
Yeah, we. That's what we need to start doing.
A
That's our four leg parlay at ESPN. Bet it would be plus 12. 50,000 is what it would.
C
Just shut ESPN.
A
Honestly, bankruptible.
B
Oh, my goodness.
C
Is that possible?
A
I don't know. Right? I want to do it. Yeah, that would be a good time. All right. That's gonna do it for us today. I'm gonna be back tomorrow. These two I'm not sure about. I'm not sure whether or not you're gonna be back or not. Yeah, it's. I believe it's gonna be me and Liz Loza, so make sure you buckle up for that. That's gonna be a ton of fun.
B
We're going to the post game party with the winning team.
A
Of course you guys are. I hope you have a ton of fun.
B
Me and Phil. 40.
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40 club for us.
A
Yeah. Hey, nothing wrong with that. I was trying to think of a good comeback and I got nothing. No, I'll be here though, guys. Don't worry. I'll be here hanging out with you. Today's show was presented by Little Caesars. Don't forget to love each other. Be kind to yourself. You deserve it. And we'll see you back here on Friday for another big show.
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P Friends.
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See you guys. Sam Eight years ago, I blew my football career.
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He dropped it at the one yard line.
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Chad Powers has arrived on Hulu. If I can't play as Russ, I'll play as someone else. My name's Chad and last name lieutenant.
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From executive producers Eli and Peyton Manning. Remember when wearing a prosthetic mask.
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This is acting and starring Glen Powell.
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He thinks you're a rubber chew. Toeing, not rubber.
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I'm a man made a flesh. The Hulu original series Chad Powers is now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on.
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Disney plus for bundle subscribers. Terms apply.
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New episodes Tuesdays.
Date: October 9, 2025
Hosts: Field Yates, Mike Clay, Daniel Dopp
(Stephania Bell not present on this episode)
This episode of Fantasy Focus Football dives deep into Week 6 of the NFL season, guiding fantasy managers through player upgrades, downgrades, and matchups to exploit or be wary of. The hosts break down quarterback bounce-back candidates, the murky state of the tight end position, must-start running backs, high-upside “dart throw” plays, and concern points for high-profile players facing tough defenses. The episode is filled with witty banter and actionable insights, concluding with a Thursday Night Football preview and some spitball-throwing on rostered-in-almost-no-leagues picks.
Justin Herbert's Bounce-Back Spot
Foreshadow: Mike teases another struggling QB with a great matchup (07:20) – later revealed as Josh Allen.
Hosts’ Takes:
Summary verdict:
The Fantasy Focus crew arms you with must-starts, trap warnings, and matchup edges with their hallmark humor and camaraderie—plus a few running jokes about bodily functions and deep league YOLO picks. Essential listening for managers looking to win Week 6 and beyond.
(All timestamps in MM:SS format refer to transcript time. Ads and non-football sections omitted.)