
Week 8 Fantasy Football SHOCKERS: Studs Who DOMINATED & Duds Who FLOPPED
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Field Yates
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Daniel Dopp
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Field Yates
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Daniel Dopp
Are you training to become the guy who starts a NASCAR race or a WWE ring announcement?
Stefania Bell
I was just gonna say wwe and maybe it's because have this nice.
Field Yates
We got the belt in front of us.
Stefania Bell
Trophy smack. What? You have the energy, though. That felt like a wwe.
Field Yates
I wanted to bring a little bit of fun to the show. By the way, shout out to our friends over at Trophy Smack. Head over to trophy smack dot com. Use the promo code. Focus. 10 for 10% off your order. Yeah, I'm feeling good today. I didn't have a game to watch. There was no Lions. I mean, we didn't get a loss in week eight. So I just got to watch a bunch of really good football, which was very exciting. We'll talk about that. That's a good question.
Daniel Dopp
It's a very good question.
Field Yates
Very big show. As we always do on Monday, we got our Monday morning bl. We're going to dive into our week eight takeaways and give you guys a bunch of good stuff that we have throughout the show. However, the very first thing that I need to give you guys is a promo code for 15% off pizza. That's right. Joe Flacco, the real deal hits. He had to hit at least 15 fantasy points. Promo code is big win. Joe Flacco had 15 fantasy points, by the way, with 10 minutes and 24 seconds left in the second quarter of this game.
Daniel Dopp
No big deal, Mike Clay.
Field Yates
Actually, it's a real big deal, Field.
Daniel Dopp
That's a good point. Yeah. Joe Flacco never let you down. We've been trying to say this. Now, the Bengals didn't win the game. That means that Joe Flacco has very much kept this Bengals passing game afloat. Just one catch for tee against yesterday, but it was for a touchdown and once again, nine catches yesterday. So thank you, Joe Flacco, not just for your great pizza, but also for your fantasy prowess.
Field Yates
Absolutely. All right, before we dive into the show, a little bit of housekeeping. Because today field is our Only day we actually get to spend with the lovely Stefania Bell. Because tomorrow you're going to be down in Hot Lana doing something special.
Stefania Bell
I am. I'm speaking at Dignity Grows has a summit to address period poverty. And if you want to learn more about it, I actually posted something when I was doing it. There's. There's a website. You can go learn about it, but they're a nonprofit doing really good work, and I'm very honored to be invited to speak tomorrow morning.
Field Yates
Heck, yeah. That'll be awesome.
Daniel Dopp
It'll be great.
Field Yates
Super awesome to be able to do that. Stefania, in your place, we will have Liz Loza. She'll do the best she can to fill in.
Stefania Bell
Fresh off beating me in the fantasy football. Now, she may have mentioned when we were in makeover and anyone who knows me knows that during that session, like I come on, I look like I've got this energy, but you guys see me before. And when I have coffee and they're trying to get me presentable for the outside world, I do not speak. Liz managed to drop a. And I beat you. Yeah, and I beat you at that time of day. So I don't know, we might not be speaking again for a few more days.
Daniel Dopp
We are 10 seconds away from getting into our winners, losers, and what the heck players of the weekend. But the fantasy football now league is shaping up for absolute chaos. Yes, it is, because each of the top three teams lost this weekend and we are all in a very tightly wound field of competitors. So it's going to be great. Ahead.
Field Yates
There you go.
Daniel Dopp
Pun intended. Very.
Field Yates
That's right. Yeah. All right.
Stefania Bell
Tightly wound field.
Field Yates
Let's dive into our Monday morning blitz. Winners, losers, and what the heck happened here? Field, I'm going to start with you for our first winner of the day winner.
Daniel Dopp
Save the best for last National Tight End Day. Every tight end's doing his best to show out. None showed out more than Tucker Kraft for the Green Bay packers, who win the Aaron Rodgers Bowl. 35. 25. How's this for a stat line for Tucker Kraft? Seven catches. Wow. 143 yards, two touchdowns. 33.3 fantasy points.
Stefania Bell
Unbelievable.
Daniel Dopp
Highest scoring non quarterback I believe of the week is Tucker Kraft.
Field Yates
Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
On top of that, Tucker Kraft is now the new highest scoring tight end fantasy points per game this season. In part because it's something we'll talk about in just a few moments. Tucker Kraft has firmly entrenched himself into that conversation of elite tight ends. Rankings will come out tomorrow afternoon. All right. And if you look Go look at the rankings. I think we've been hammering this point a little bit more. It came up in the Rasheed Rice conversation and a couple of others recently where it's doesn't really matter where you rank the player within his position. Is he a starter or is he not? To me, going forward, Tucker Kraft, the conversation is not, is he tight end one or is he tight end six? This week, it's, are you starting him with confidence? I am starting Tucker Craft with confidence. A year, maybe a year and a half ago, we were calling him Baby Kittle. That moniker feels even more appropriate today. He's an absolute beast after the catch. And did you guys see after one of his catches yesterday, he got tackled at like the six yard line.
Stefania Bell
Oh, he's the handspring. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, that is like if you did gymnastics, you know, you know, you're like in back and you like pop up. That's hard to do. Yeah, it's harder to do if you're a big guy pads on and a big play and just got tackled. He was showing everybody he was. That's a little statement like, you can't get me tonight.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. So an amazing performance. Shout out to him for showing out for the tight ends on National Tight End Day. He was my winner of the week.
Field Yates
I could not believe. I actually had to discount double check when you had sent out whether or not he was the leading tight end at the end of the week because, like, he was so per game. A little Aaron Rodgers, you know, shout out there. Yeah. I would love to give you guys my winner. Smash game. Coming into the week, we talked about how the Bengals have given up the most fantasy points to running backs. And then Breece hall just absolutely dominate.
Daniel Dopp
Let's go, baby.
Field Yates
So glad Bengals have still allowed the most fantasy points to running backs this one. Breeze hall had a huge game. 18 carries, 133 yards, two touchdowns, plus two catches for 14 yards. Oh, and he threw a pass down to a tight end, by the way, helping to get Mason Taylor involved in national tight ends day. 32.8 fantasy points. But if you were watching this game and you were at halftime and you looked at your box score and you said, wow, Breeze Hall's got five and a half points. I'm worried right now. A lot of it came in the second half here. Okay, six of his 18 carries, so a third of his carries went for nine or more yards. Huge chunks ripping off huge chunks at a time. At least two catches in every single game. But one so far this year. And with week eight in the books. Yeah, I realize there's Monday Night Football, but this isn't going to affect the stat. With week eight in the books. There are only two running backs in the NFL. They have at least 145 scrimmage yards in three or more games this year. And it's Bijan Robinson and Breece Hall.
Daniel Dopp
Wow.
Field Yates
So, and we had talked about with Mike Clay coming in, one of the bold predictions was he was saying, coming into the trade deadline, does Breeze hall potentially get moved? I think maybe that might have softened a little bit. However it did, if it. It even if it has, that couldn't have put up a better game for the jets to go into the trade deadline with in case they did want to move him.
Daniel Dopp
Right. So it was a good reminder that even if Breece hall plays for the jets, who are now 1 and 7, as opposed to. I'm just making this up playing for the Chiefs. Right. Which seems to be the dream scenario. Everyone would love that for everybody's fake trade machine. It's still. There's still a lot of value. There can be a lot of value for Breeze Hall. I also have a rule proposal and it didn't matter in the league in which I have. I actually only have one share of Breeze hall this year, curiously enough. But in the league that I play in with Breeze hall, we get six points for a passing touchdown.
Field Yates
Nice.
Daniel Dopp
I believe that in every league the default setting should be that when a non quarterback throws a touchdown, you should get six points. Yes.
Stefania Bell
Oh, I was going to say bonus point. Which would be six and a lot of leagues.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. It feels weird when it's like David Montgomery does this thing that happens like maybe five times a year. Right. A non quarterback throwing a touchdown does not happen very often.
Field Yates
Nope.
Daniel Dopp
And we rewarded just the same as something that Bo Nix does like five times in a game or four times in a game against the Cowboys.
Field Yates
But that's Bo Nix's job. That's not even David Montgomery's job.
Daniel Dopp
That's my point. Bo gets six points when he runs for a touchdown. You know, typical thing. Anyways, I know that's not a perfect example there, but shout out to you, Breece Hall. The jets get their first one. Shout out to the jets too. Like I didn't. I at one point had this player as my winner and I try to keep these a little bit less emotion, a little bit more just like who balled out Justin Fields, man.
Stefania Bell
I was trying to figure out where I wanted to put him in my list to talk about him. I'm glad you brought him up because Justin Fields deserves all the accolades not just for his performance yesterday, but for how he has carried himself through. It was an incredibly difficult week but.
Daniel Dopp
I had 19 plus fantasy points for Justin so it wasn't like it was hey free fantasy. Like he had a great game, led.
Stefania Bell
Them to a win and then was a really good human on top of it. My winner, sticking with the running backs. And I, I'm, I'm sorry if you're tired of hearing this people but it's Jonathan Taylor.
Field Yates
He's so good at win. Such a winner.
Stefania Bell
He is such a winner and he keeps doing superlative things which is why I have to keep talking about him. I mean where would you like to start? 37.4 fantasy points. So I think he might be the highest.
Daniel Dopp
Yes, I said non quarterback.
Stefania Bell
More Fantasy Points through eight games than any running back since 2019. Who might you think held that last?
Field Yates
Derek Taylor.
Stefania Bell
It's a guy named Christian McCaffrey. It's Jonathan Taylor's fourth 30 point game of the season. No one else has more than two and second most by a running back this season. His fantasy point total this week surpassed only by that guy. I just mentioned Christian McCaffrey when he did it a week ago. Christian McCaffrey we won't talk about because he's not finishing the column this week.
Daniel Dopp
We'll talk about him in a moment.
Stefania Bell
Perhaps he made another list but Jonathan Taylor and by the way, if you saw that one, he had this breakaway run where it was like a video game or a cartoon of people trying to tackle him and it was like, like he's just, he's like slippery and it's not only is he fast, he's elusive. They can't tackle him. I've talked about his vision before. He is patient. He sees holes where they're not like he, it's not just the guy has an open lane and runs straight like he does it all. And it's fascinating to me how no matter who the opponent is, he seems to be able to be this productive. I love him.
Field Yates
That 80 yard touchdown run, what was so impressive to me is that as he's running full speed, just the fullest of full speeds, he's still like jumping over guys tackles and running down the sideline with mere inches next to him and it's like out of bounds, you know, so effortless. I love watching.
Daniel Dopp
He could have played one play and still got you what, 15 finishes?
Field Yates
Absolutely.
Daniel Dopp
That's ridiculous.
Field Yates
He was unbelievable.
Daniel Dopp
Three touchdowns in a game for the third. Third time already this season. Yes, J.T.
Field Yates
Yes, I heard that.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. Pretty impressive.
Field Yates
There was a stat they had in.
Daniel Dopp
The fourth time with three touchdowns.
Stefania Bell
Oh, they were trying to make it.
Field Yates
They were trying to figure it out.
Stefania Bell
If you were watching the broadcast, I had the, you know, red zones, I'm flipping between the games, but they were like historic. But then it wasn't. And I can't remember.
Field Yates
No, but then it was. It was. It was the first time that a. A player, I believe it was a running back, had scored three touchdowns in three consecutive games against a division opponent.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, I saw that. I like some of those loosey goosey stats. Yeah.
Field Yates
And so it was just play, you.
Daniel Dopp
Know, twice a year.
Field Yates
Exactly. But yeah, he's played really well against him. All right, next one.
Daniel Dopp
I told you, we talk about it. Christian McCaffrey, who I'm sure somebody else has, the other star running back that did not do well yesterday. But it's a good sign for Christian McCaffrey when you score 9.8 fantasy points and you make the loser and that's your dud. Yeah, that's a good sign for him.
Field Yates
Right.
Stefania Bell
I actually thought about it because I'm like, I give him all that. I give him all the flowers when he does well, as you would expect. And I felt like he belongs somewhere, like. But I just wasn't sure. I was like, he's still got to 9.8.
Daniel Dopp
It just, it felt like. And I think the Niners are banking on some reinforcements coming soon. Some. Some. We'll see. We'll see if Brock Purdy or Ricky Pierce hall returns this week. Either way, though, the point is this, is that this was a kitchen. This was like everything the Texans could possibly muster in a short week. They threw into this game against the Niners and the Niners, it was like the gas tank just ran out. Christian McCaffrey, eight carries for 25 yards, three catches for 43 yards. Some of that came in like the last drive of the game, so sort of salvages things a tiny bit. 9.8 fantasy points. Again, not a lot to say here. I still have them. I've. I've started working on my Week 9 rankings. Breaking news, it's him, Bijan and Jonathan Taylor as the top three running backs with Devon Achan right there in that tier as well. But when you've been carrying, when you have been carrying rosters for basically seven weeks straight prior to this, 9.8 fantasy points does throw you into this column.
Field Yates
What do you got though, they played the Houston Texans. That's like a good defense, right?
Daniel Dopp
It's a great defense.
Field Yates
That's like, that's part of. I mean, we didn't lower him because he's Christian bleepin McCaffrey. But like, yeah, Texans are a good defense.
Stefania Bell
It was really hard to read how the 49ers would do coming into that game anyway because they sort of had, you know, when you keep surprising, when you keep losing players. And by the way, talking about loosey goosey stats, they threw one up there yesterday about the number of injuries, like 20, 36 missed days of player time since Kyle Shanahan's been coaching. I mean, it's not linked to him. It was more like this observation. But anyway, the only thing that we.
Field Yates
Knew for a fact we could count on Yesterday from that 49ers game was George Kittle getting in the end zone on national tight ends feels. You mentioned this other guy. I mean, you alluded to him. Yeah, I'm going to. If you guys don't mind, I'm going.
Daniel Dopp
To say most shocking thing of the day.
Field Yates
Oh my gosh, Bajan Robinson, why did you do this to us? 9 carries, 9 carries for 25 yards, 3 receptions for 23 yards and a fumble for 5.8 fantasy points. Coming into the week, Dolphins had allowed the third most fantasy points per game to running backs. There was zero running game in this one. The Atlanta Falcons had 43 yards on 15 carries against a team that had allowed the third most fantasy points to running back coming into the weak field.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, it's unbelievable.
Field Yates
And then you look at the situation. The reason why I'm so upset is because Christian McCaffrey at least played a good defense, but Sean Robinson didn't even play a good defense. You thought the matchup was incredible because it was. And then you saw that Drake London was going to be out with a backup quarterback. So you think to yourself, maybe they even just like lean on the run just a little bit more. Yeah, why not? Because you got Kirk Cousins back there. We're not trying to make him throw the ball 40 times if we can help it. And also then they end up trailing. Bajan Robinson's a really good pass catcher. Game script doesn't game script him out of this one. Except Kirk Cousins. Some reason does. I have no idea why. And then Tyler Algiers scores the touchdown.
Daniel Dopp
Hey, hey, hey, hey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All those things are accurate.
Field Yates
First game under 16 fantasy points. That's how good he is though. First game under 16 fantasy points this year.
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Field Yates
Losing loser of all.
Daniel Dopp
How about non winner?
Stefania Bell
Well, this was definitely a non winner. And I don't know how many fantasy managers it hurt but if you were stuck looking for a quarterback to stream because let's face it, we have a lot of quarterback injuries that we're dealing with. Yeah, we had six teams on by. You might have thought Andy Dalton, why not, would give you some fantasy points.
Field Yates
I've seen some veterans do some stuff in this league.
Stefania Bell
Stefano, do you know how many fantasy points he got you?
Field Yates
I don't.
Stefania Bell
If you Decide to start 3.1 1.1. 1.1 Lowest among all starting quarterbacks and behind a quarterback who got benched part of the way through for poor play. And Spencer Rattler, like the only people he was better than were people who came in for like one package, like a Mitch Trubisky or something. I mean it was awful and I just felt badly because you were already hurting. You were already hurting. If you didn't have a quarterback and you had to go to the waiver wire and you're like, well why not? I mean Andy Dalton serviceable. I'll end up with at least, you know, double digit fantasy. I'll get 12, you'll get one and you'll be happy about it.
Field Yates
Brutal. Brutal. Stefania, I'm going to talk about the pass catcher in that game a little bit later on in the show, but it was not great if you had to start anything great.
Daniel Dopp
Wrap it up with what the heck.
Field Yates
What the heck Field. Go ahead.
Daniel Dopp
What the heck happened to Jake Ferguson? I mentioned the Tucker Craft now the highest scoring tight end in all of fantasy football. Part of the reason why is that Jake Ferguson 0 catches yesterday.
Stefania Bell
It's rude on national tight end Day. Yeah, like rude.
Daniel Dopp
We just a crazy day. What a weird game. Mike was Johnny on the spot with how you know, like he was a little bit more conservative on the Dak Prescott ranking this week because they faced the Broncos who had been so good against opposing quarterbacks. Third fewest fantasy points to opposing quarterbacks, great defense and still it was sort of like what's that like a movable force or whatever. A movable object meets unstoppable force. Broncos defense, Cowboys offense, Dak probably still be fine. Even if Dak was fine, even he was below average. You're thinking to yourself, Jake Ferguson can probably get you 10 fantasy points. That seems reasonable, right? One target, zero catches, zero yards. Chalk that one up to just a complete disaster for Fergie.
Stefania Bell
Yeah, don't need to spend much time on mine because you already addressed a couple of people involved. But my what the heck was what the heck happened to the entire Falcons offense? Like where did they go? We had a weird late week status change for London because that was he just popped up on the injury report Friday. So with and with him with panics out, no one else stepped up. You know, poor outings all around and like you said, couldn't blame it on the run game or the past game. It was everything. Everyone was awful. Flush the toilet on that one.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, that was my first takeaway. So I'll just quickly put a bow on a ding before you get back to your what the heck is that? 173 total passing yards for this pass for this Falcons offense yesterday And Michael Penns Jr. Is not perfect he's still kind of a mystery to me in terms of what his long term outlook is in the NFL. But oh boy, if we have another week of Kirk Cousins next week, it does not bode well for the Falcons against the Patriots. Nope. And on top of that, darn Mooney, man.
Field Yates
Zero, right?
Daniel Dopp
One catch late.
Field Yates
Okay.
Daniel Dopp
But yeah, he had an opportunity. You think like Drake London's out. Yeah, playing the Dolphins. Exactly. If they don't throw the ball a ton, they can, especially with the football efficiency. How about Kadero Hodge led them with a 27% target share. Kyle Pitts also had a big day, but Daniel, what do you got for your. What the heck?
Field Yates
Dolphins showing signs of life, guys. If you needed to start Tua, then you absolutely got some. Out of 24.2 fantasy points, 205 yards and four passing touchdowns.
Daniel Dopp
Four.
Field Yates
Four.
Daniel Dopp
First quarterback to go over 200 passing yards against the Falcons all season.
Field Yates
Yes.
Stefania Bell
He woke up with his eyes swollen shut and delivered that performance against Atlanta.
Field Yates
I did not hear that.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Field Yates
I did not know that was added.
Daniel Dopp
To the injury report. Yeah. Oh, wow.
Field Yates
All right.
Daniel Dopp
They're going to be quarterbacks left and right. Just like, you know, not sleeping for four days. They play the Falcons. Drake May is going to go on a bender starting now because they play the Falcons this weekend. Drake Bay might not need it, but most quarterbacks that you know are not quite in that level might start doing that. But yeah, dude, go off.
Field Yates
Devon was awesome, too. 18 carries, 67 yards. Plus he does the thing where he has seven targets, five catches and 24 yards for a touchdown. 20.9 fantasy points. He's got seven touchdowns in eight games. He is averaging 97 yards per game. He's seen at least four catches in every single game so far this year. He has seven of his eight games over 16 fantasy points. He's been unbelievable. And Jalen Waddle, I had reason to believe and I said that like his confidence was low for me coming out of that massive dud against the Cleveland Browns this week. And still, this is the first time, excuse me, not the first time Falcons still have not allowed a wide receiver to see more than eight targets in a game. Jalen Waddle is just really efficient. Six targets, five catches for 99 yards and a touchdown. 20.1 fantasy points. Really quickly when you look back at what Jalen Waddle has done. Weeks one through four with Tyreek Hill, 11.9 fantasy points. Weeks five through eight without Tyreek Hill, he's averaging 15.6 fantasy points. However, averaging 15.6 fantasy points. But three of his four games he scored more than 15.6 fantasy points because his 2.3 outing against the Browns was such a big dud that it just lowered the average. So he's actually playing better than what his what this looks like. But he's seen way more involvement here with Tyreek Hill.
Daniel Dopp
So I think what you were trying to say was with Tyree Kill out, he's been a top 15ish wide receiver basically four out of five.
Field Yates
Four out of five, exactly. And then even in this game, Ali Gordon got some run and mind you, it was garbage time. But he had 13.6 fantasy points, 10 carries, 46 yards receiving, touchdown for 20 yards. But nine of his 13.6 points came in the fourth quarter.
Daniel Dopp
It's garbage time. Yes. We were not expecting garbage time for the Dolphins. Expecting it for the Falcons.
Field Yates
I love all time garbage time. Overtime, sexy time. I'm in on all the times we.
Daniel Dopp
All love all of only Dan's on fantasy voters.
Field Yates
You never know. All right, let's move on to the next one then.
Daniel Dopp
All right, so I'll hit on my first takeaway which was the Falcons offense, but I'll just move forward here to my second one which is that yet another struggle bus day for Caleb Williams. The question is, is Caleb Williams even a starting consideration right now in a 10 team league? We'll talk about the matchup later on this week because it's an absolutely incredible one against the Bengals. So yes, Caleb probably will crack that top 10 but he better get going in a hurry. Now Caleb has a total of two passing touchdowns over his last four games. Two in his last four games. He has not thrown for 300 yards in a game this season. In three of his last four starts he's been quarterback 20th or worse. We've seen the ascension of Drake May. Jaden Daniels has been hurt but there's been lots of discourse about, you know, should the Bears have taken either of those players ahead of Caleb Williams. And Caleb is just, it just feels like for so many things that can go right with this bears offense. DeAndre Swift has run well dunes they had a big day and I want to talk about him in a minute here. Daniel, it feels like there's opportunities here for big plays they don't finish drives they had back to back field goals and early drives yesterday they were trying to get back in garbage time. Couldn't finish the job. The eye test is just not good enough right now for Caleb Williams. For a player that we thought could be right there on that borderline of a top 10 quarterback understanding. We have four teams on a buy next week and matchups definitely matter when you're just talking about week nine rankings, but in a vacuum. If you're asking me do I have the confidence that Caleb Williams, if he is my starting quarterback, I should just be hanging tight and not exploring the waiver wire for other options, my answer is no.
Field Yates
Yeah, I think I'm with you on that. Unfortunately, Caleb still just looks like he's got some things to figure out. It's not just Caleb. Caleb and Ben. Yeah, we gotta. We gotta chill out. We gotta slow down.
Daniel Dopp
I think a lot of it, I mean, you're right. A lot of it feels like it's Caleb right now. It feels like a lot like, you know, there's a lot of opportunity here for this Bears team. Like some of the scheme stuff they're doing, the blocking, some of it's really good. But it's a quarterback driven league and they got to get their quarterback going. You have a point on Roma Dunes.
Field Yates
You did mention Roma Dunes. A got back on track this week after back to back duds. Two games with five fantasy points and then came into this one. We liked the matchup against the Ravens. That was one of the things we talked about. 11 targets, 7 catches, 114 yards, 18.4 fantasy points played 95% of the snaps. Kid just doesn't come off the field. Fifth game with 15 or more fantasy points this year and it was the third best game for a wide receiver against the Baltimore Ravens. So even though Kayla Williams struggled, we saw some other parts of this offense. DeAndre Swift looked really good and Roma Dunz also looked fantastic. They're going to get the BenGals in week nine, which is a great matchup for DeAndre Swift.
Daniel Dopp
Yes.
Field Yates
Now they've given up so many points to running backs that it feels like teams haven't had to throw against them a lot. So it's not a bad matchup when you look at it against the Bengals, but I'm interested to see how that.
Daniel Dopp
Game is going to play. DJ Turner, who Mike has been telling us about in the wide receiver cornerback matchup, will shadow Roma Dunes day. So a bit of a discount this week. That being said, we'll talk about week nine more starting Wednesday probably.
Stefania Bell
Well, I'll veer from the Bears there and say the Colson Loveland was one of the tight ends I was hoping to see something from on national tight ends. They didn't really pan out so well. We had talked in the red zone of Our fantasy football now show about how many touch how many tight ends are scoring touchdowns. 12 touchdowns by 10 different tight ends. Love that on National Tight Ends Day including George Kittle, the founder of National Tight Ends Day. But also Jake Todges Pointers didn't have a great day but they got two different tight ends on the same squad. Touchdowns. And then of course the grand finale was put up by Tucker Kraft as you already mentioned. But I just love seeing the tight ends get their shine yesterday. And it ranged from rookies like Aranda Gadsden to veterans and holiday founders like George Kimball.
Field Yates
Absolutely.
Daniel Dopp
I believe I'm just doing the math here right now.
Stefania Bell
I wonder if this was the most tight end productive.
Field Yates
I don't think so. I think it was. It was close.
Daniel Dopp
You'd be surprised. I believe so. Yesterday we were doing on red zone we had 10. Yes. No on will there be a touchdown score by tight end? If my math is did it work out at 50%?
Stefania Bell
6.
Daniel Dopp
Six of the 10 with the Chiefs and the commanders to go tonight. So.
Field Yates
Okay.
Stefania Bell
Yeah, so we shall see.
Field Yates
One of the tight ends that did really well, I saw him on the full screen there but I do want to mention him. Stefania. Harold Fannin was amongst the best tight ends and the dude had been unbelievable. Another really good week for Harold Fannin. Six catches, 62 yards and a touchdown. 18.4 fantasy points. Best game of his career. Third game over 11 fantasy points. Not a lot right now is working in Cleveland, but the one thing that is working is all of these two tight end sets that they keep running. Both David and Joko and Harold Fannin I think are startable right now. The future in Cleveland is Harold Fannin and the future is now like that. They are absolutely running this. It feels like this passing game through Harold Fannin and David Njoku. But I think you can start both of these. I like Harold Fannin a little bit more with the way that he's played over the last couple of weeks. But if you need someone at the tight end spot, both of those guys are usable.
Daniel Dopp
They go on a buy this week. Do the Browns. We'll see whether they have a quarterback change by the time they come back in Week 10. The Panthers backfield and we. I just wanted to. I want to keep monitoring this for a couple of weeks because if we settle where I think we're going to settle, it's probably not a good thing for fantasy. So this feels to me basically like the Seattle Seahawks. Rico Dowdle is like Kenneth Walker III and Chuba Hubbard who I Want to be incredibly clear on this has done more is more accomplished is I believe a better player by a decent amount than Zach Charbonnet. But right now the way in which he is playing is reminiscent of how Zach Charbonnet is playing. Chuba had less than 3 yards per carry once again yesterday. Rico Dowdle once again looked better. He had one, he had the kind of only explosive run against this very bad Bills defense. That being said, if Chuba Hubbard, Allah, Zach Charbonnet often is going to be the first player on the field at running back and if he's going to get more goal line opportunities than Rico Dowdle potentially then this is going to be like the Seahawks, which is. You don't really either want to. You don't want to start either one of these guys in a perfect world. So the Panthers play the packers next week. It's another big challenge. Daniel has warned us and was nailed it with Jalen Warren in terms of the tough test that packers run defense presents to opposing running backs. But yeah, it's, it's, it's frustrating. It's disappointing because Chuba to begin the season was what he's normally been, which is really solid. And then Rico Dowdle won you back to back weeks. But for now, and maybe things will change but for now we are treating the Panthers backfield I think very much like the Seahawks backfield.
Stefania Bell
Yeah. And you're to your point. I really wanted to see if Chuba Hubbard looked different because last week I was like he's just coming off a calf injury. Maybe that's a little bit of why we're not seeing sort of the same explosiveness from him. But when you see it two weeks in a row, it doesn't make you feel good. My next takeaway was hey, too strong. As in double digit fantasy point performances from Mary DK in Calvin Ridley's absence with a hamstring injury outscoring Alec IO Manor this week DK had double the targets of week seven. The Titans have one more week before the buy in week ten and Calvin Ridley still hasn't practiced. So if he misses again, you might want to consider DK on your roster.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, definitely a larger league consideration. This is a good player. Like he was explosive. Went to Wisconsin and finished up in Florida. Ran really well at the combine. He's fast as all get out and the game script is more friendly to the Titans than pretty much anybody else. Right. Just going to say always playing from behind.
Stefania Bell
So I'm not here tomorrow. He's only rostered in 5.3% of fantasy leagues. So if you're hurting and you've got people out or on by next week, just might be somebody to consider.
Daniel Dopp
12, 14 team leagues, definitely maybe 16 team leagues for sure should be rostered in those sizes.
Field Yates
I'm going to talk about the Panthers really quickly. I'm going to wrap up because we've mentioned a couple of different, like, pockets of the Panthers, but Andy Dalton wasn't good. But I asked you coming into the week, can Andy Dalton just do the veteran thing that Joe Flacco did for. Yeah, for Jamar Chase, just give him all the targets? First half? The answer was no. But by the time we got to the end of the game, I was pretty okay with how things turned out. 10 targets, 7 catches, 99 yards, 16.9. Sorry, what did I just say?
Daniel Dopp
You didn't say anything. You didn't say his name. That's okay. Yeah.
Field Yates
10 catches, seven.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
10 targets, seven catches, 99 yards, 16.9 fantasy points. Tedro McMillan had a 43.5 point target share. 43 and a half percent target share. That's unbelievable when you look at how he's done this year with what Andy Dalton did. 10 targets, only the second time that's happened this year. Seven catches, that's the most he's had this season. 99 yards, technically his second most. He had a hundred yard game, so he was one yard away from his best game this season. And then 16.9 fantasy points, second best game that he's had so far this year. The Panthers did not look good. Andy Dalton did not look good. I don't expect to see Andy Dalton, honestly, again, if I watch these two quarterbacks.
Daniel Dopp
Depends on Bryce's ankle.
Field Yates
As long as Bryce Young is healthy, he is at least as good as Andy Dalton is right now. So if we can get back there, we'll see, obviously. But. But if you started Tedro McMillan, you did not get crushed. In spite of how poor the Panthers played against the bills in that 40 to nine drubbing.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, that was a very, very disappointing performance by the Panthers because they've kind of been the scrappy team that's made you earn it throughout the season and then next thing you know, they get blown out by the Bills. Daniel Dot, never wrong. Just a little bit late sometimes, maybe to the party on Chase Brown.
Field Yates
That's right.
Daniel Dopp
Chase Brown finally starting to trend up.
Field Yates
Yeah, baby.
Stefania Bell
Halfway through the season.
Daniel Dopp
Chase Brown over the past couple of weeks, past two games to be specific, Chase Brown is 180. He had two touchdowns yesterday. The Bengals are starting to open some things up in the running game, which has been encouraging for Chase Brown. Samaji P. Ryan also had 16 and a half fantasy points yesterday, so why the heck not? Why not?
Field Yates
He found the end zone as well.
Daniel Dopp
He did find the end zone. So it's, it's perhaps that the Bengals have just been taking advantage of some good matchups over the past couple of weeks. That Ravens, I'm sorry, the Steelers defense, who, I don't know what to make of that defense anymore, and then yesterday the jets defense, who know what to.
Field Yates
Make of the jets defense anymore. Great question.
Daniel Dopp
But they play the Bears this weekend.
Field Yates
Yes, they do.
Daniel Dopp
So it's a good matchup, Good opportunity as well for Chase Brown. I was again, I was sort of combing through week nine rankings and you know, those four teams on a buy definitely helps. And I know and I understand if there are listeners, fans, viewers, whatever, who really, really would prefer they just love like the 1 to 2 to 3 to 4, all the way down to whatever, 50 for the running back rankings. I totally get it. For me, I always visualize these things so much more in like, you're starting this player. You are probably starting this player. You might be starting this player. If you're starting this player, you're pretty desperate. I would not be starting this player. And given the context of next week with the teams on a buy and some matchups in play and some injuries in play here as well, I think Chase Brown is trending back up into you're probably starting this player as opposed to like you're starting this player. But not being excited about it this past week or these past, you know, couple of months, I should.
Field Yates
It has helped Chase Brown that this offense has had a heartbeat over the last couple of weeks. There's a pulse, right? And without that, there's a Flocko.
Stefania Bell
Who knew it took Joe Flacco to unlock every member of the offense, but maybe that's what's happened.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
Yeah.
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Stefania Bell
My last takeaway is sort of a welcome back. Welcome back. Christian Watson, because when you consider the injury that he had torn ACL in January, even though it was the end of last season, we didn't even have him on the radar necessarily for this year. And, and nobody would have batted an eye if he didn't play this season. That would have fit within the realm of reasonable possibilities. But yet he played and I was like, ah, I just want to see how he looks. He looked good. And what you look for is a player who's not apprehensive because you got to get your confidence back in your leg. And for a guy who's had so many lower extremity injuries before the acl, I was really worried. Would he be tentative when he played? Nope, didn't see that at all. In fact, he had four catches for 85 yards. So, you know, not huge production, but hey, there's something there, right? And he was targeted. And then he threw this nasty block that sprung Josh Jacobs for the end zone. So I was like, that's a guy who's playing confidently. And that speaks more to me than the amount of fantasy points he put on the board right now. Yes, there's still a risk for secondary lower extremity strain. It's the number one risk when you're coming off acl. And we know he has a history with the hamstrings, but Christian Watson, I would I'm going to keep an eye on how involved he gets stays in this offense with other wide receivers missing.
Daniel Dopp
Two thoughts. I now get why the packers didn't bother taking a wide receiver in the first round for 20 years. Because they finally take one and they barely use.
Field Yates
Don't even throw it to Golden.
Daniel Dopp
You know, we'll see if that changes. But for now, golden, not a player that should be in lineup. Second of all, I was watching the game last night and Christian Watson, which is not that uncommon, has a grill. He has this smile that's got probably lots of diamonds and probably his six figure smile now. I think I also saw him wearing a diamond bracelet while playing the game. Yeah, I just feel like, why do that? No, I mean, why? I mean, because you look cooler. Obviously. It's aura. It's things you and I don't.
Field Yates
Yeah, I don't have aura.
Daniel Dopp
I don't think. Wouldn't you be a little bit nervous if you're playing a very physical sport? And I don't think these guys are wearing $20amaz knockoff diamonds. They're probably wearing like, I don't know, again, like probably 50 grand or 100 grand diamond bracelets.
Stefania Bell
I always wonder. I get nervous about wearing jewelry on set. I mean, these guys have chained. Yeah, he's got one that. But the grill always, I think, oh, if you get popped in the mouth, I know you're supposed to wear a mouth guard and everything, but that just makes me think of pain also. Wouldn't that hurt? Like it'll cut your lip, right? These are.
Daniel Dopp
You think we are showing our vulnerability in this category right now, guys? We have no idea on grills, but yeah, I just was like, maybe it wasn't a bracelet. I just was seeing piece of tape or something. But I was like, man, that would be feel I'd be nervous.
Field Yates
I wonder if they have like a thing. Cause you know how you have like a metal detector for like gold or silver or whatever. Like what happens when you lose like a precious stone.
Stefania Bell
Yeah, like the guy on the beach.
Field Yates
Yeah. Someone's like doing a thing after the game to be like, boy, I wonder what I'm gonna find out here.
Daniel Dopp
That field, that accurate field, you might lose it forever. What do you got, Daniel?
Field Yates
All right, I'm two really quickly, one of them. We will touch on more on Wednesday once Mike is here. But Tyler freaking Johnson found the end zone. We continued it again with long shots. Sixth player in seven weeks that we have hit on these long shots. I do want to tell you guys quickly behind the scenes, Tyler, our Producer was like, dop, I need your long shot. And I called him and I was like, all right, I'm looking through everybody, looking through everyone. I said, all right, you know what? I don't think Garrett Wilson's going to play. Give me Tyler Johnson. And he was like, ooh. We, as the producers, have already picked Tyler Johnson. I can pivot, though. I'll find someone else. I was like, no, no, no, no. You picked him first. I'll let you have him. So I was right there on the cusp of having Tyler Johnson.
Daniel Dopp
More shoes and hand grenades.
Field Yates
That's right. And so now I think all of you, except for me, have hit it twice. Even. Not even hit it once. Our producers have hit it twice. Field has hit it twice. Mike has hit it twice.
Daniel Dopp
Did somebody tail it? I want to know.
Stefania Bell
Did any of you hit it once?
Field Yates
No, I've not hit it at all. I've not hit it one time.
Stefania Bell
It's very generous of you to let everybody else celebrate their accomplishments.
Field Yates
They don't get the game. Stefania, you want the pot to build, and they keep winning every week. There's no pot building when they do this.
Daniel Dopp
It's like, the run is ridiculous. These guys are rostered in 0.0% of leagues. No one has them on their fantasy, and we're just calling tight end scorers.
Field Yates
Lout and I want to go so badly on Wednesday. I'll ask our producers. Maybe we can put together, like, a list so that we can see the players that we have called and their roster percentage over the start of the season, because it's been unbelievable.
Stefania Bell
I just want to see if they did anything any other week besides.
Field Yates
Besides the weeks that we called it.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, it's. It's been quiet for the most part.
Field Yates
But shout out to Tyler Mowbray. He was our producer on Friday. Tyler Jones.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, Tyler on. Tyler, let's go.
Field Yates
All right, you got one more. And then I got one more.
Daniel Dopp
I was just talking about how you have these running backs where it's like you have these categories. You're obviously starting these players. Beginning of that tier is Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffrey, Bijan Robinson, Devon Hn. It goes down to probably 10 or 12 guys. Maybe you get to the bottom and it's whatever. I don't even know the perfect cutoff, Kyron Williams or something in a given week. And there's a next year where it's like, you're probably starting this player, right? Ashton Gen Z, Those type of guys, like DeAndre Swift, you're probably like, It'd be hard not to start them.
Field Yates
Sure.
Daniel Dopp
The next category, I think is, like, I guess you start this guy, but do you have to. Is that Alvin Camara?
Field Yates
Right now?
Daniel Dopp
It is, yeah. But right now meaning like the entire season? Or you mean like his.
Field Yates
No, no, no. Because we talked about, like, his passing game usage just isn't materializing this year.
Daniel Dopp
How about this? So Alvin Camara going into last night's game was RB28. So he's now moved down behind both Jalen Warren and Josh James, making a Marbi 30 for the week. Wow. He now has four games inside the top 40 and four games outside the top 40. This season. He's averaging a career low 3.6 yards per rush. Bad. He's on pace for 312 receiving yards this season. Like, by far. Not like, by a little. By far his fewest receiving yards in a season. I believe the prior answer for fewest receiving yards for Alvin Camara in a season was 450. And he played 13 games that year. Alvin Camara has one touchdown this season. The Saints don't score very many points. They might change their quarterback to Tyler Schuck.
Stefania Bell
They kind of did. They did.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. They might make this a permanent change. Officially.
Field Yates
Do it.
Daniel Dopp
You're sitting there and you're just like, but he gets all the volume. Or gets a lot of the volume. Kendra Miller as backup got hurt. Devin Neal is now the new backup, but he's playing some. But it just like, on paper, you're like, man, you should be able to play this guy a decent amount. And then when you actually see the result, you're like, damn it, why did I play him again?
Stefania Bell
Yeah, he limped off at one point yesterday, too, when I was watching, and kind of. He. He actually. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear something today because the way his foot twisted on the turf and all the way up to his knee and then he kind of limped off. I was like, ooh, did he just, you know, sprain his ankle or tweak his knee? Um, so keep your eye on that because. And I didn't watch the game. Full disclosure, closely enough to know was. Was there a difference in what he was doing before and after? Because I sort of trailed off of that game. But just something. It doesn't take away from the fact that it hasn't been there at all. But this could only make it worse.
Field Yates
Potentially 3.2. Sorry. 3.6 yards per carry and 5.4 yards per reception. He's never had 5.4 yards. Yeah. That's the worst in his career across the board. Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
All right.
Field Yates
What's your last one?
Daniel Dopp
Injury.
Field Yates
The Cowboys Broncos live up to its height because. Not really, but in part, there were.
Stefania Bell
Some people that did craziness and craziness. You have some fantasy production.
Field Yates
Yeah, Ferguson. But the game. But did the game know? Yeah. Jake Ferguson did not. CD Lamb, George Pickens, Javante Williams, like, they were all fine. Ish.
Daniel Dopp
Javante. Got you two touchdowns. Yeah.
Field Yates
It was nice. You. You enjoyed that.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
On the other side, we didn't see a lot from Cortland Sutton. Instead, it was like a really. It was bad. Really bad drop.
Daniel Dopp
It was a 25 yard laser from Bo Nixon. It just went right between the wickets.
Field Yates
Who. Who didn't drop a touchdown? Stefania.
Stefania Bell
Troy Franklin.
Field Yates
Troy Franklin. In fact, he didn't drop two of them.
Daniel Dopp
No.
Field Yates
8 catches, 69. Sorry. Eight targets, six catches, 89 yards and two touchdowns for 26.9 fantasy points. It's his second game with over 24 fantasy points. If you threw a matchup dart because you're like, it's the Cowboys.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
There are six teams on a buy. I got to start somebody here. It absolutely paid off. He now has two games over, 24 fantasy points, one game with 12.9 and five games with single digits, which means he is absolutely just a dart throw right now in this Broncos offense. That's all that he is.
Daniel Dopp
But it's a bad matchup next weekend, so temporary.
Field Yates
It was a good dart throw for you to throw this week against the Dallas Cowboys. RJ Harvey also looked really good. Very efficient. Seven carries, 46 yards, two touchdowns, once catch for five yards and a touchdown. He had three touchdowns on eight touches.
Daniel Dopp
It was six touches like he. It was crazy. It was a crazy.
Field Yates
Very efficient. Very efficient for RJ Harvey.
Daniel Dopp
Dobbins played really well yesterday. He had 111 rushing yards.
Field Yates
He did.
Daniel Dopp
But Harvey got the money carries there.
Stefania Bell
All right. Yeah. Keep your eye. Patrick. Sir Tan. We get later in the week and.
Daniel Dopp
Come in and shoulder too, right? No shoulder for the second half. One, it was a shoulder injury. It was a lower leg early and then a shoulder thing that knocked him.
Stefania Bell
But he definitely looked a little bit banged up to me. Speaking of injuries injuries. Yeah.
Field Yates
Why don't we dive into a couple of fantasy relevant injuries. There was one that was really obvious that was really sad for us here in fantasy football.
Stefania Bell
Oh, I mean, Cam scatter. Boo. If you didn't see it, you don't want to see it. This has become, unfortunately, all too familiar of a sight this year that we are seeing these rearranged ankles that are pointing literally the wrong direction. I mean, how many times have we seen that already this year? Fred Warner, Tyreek Hill. Even though his was a knee injury, it's still the result of the foot going the wrong way. Cam Scatter Boo reported as an ankle dislocation. You know, when we talk about these ankle dislocation injuries, they can be there. There's a range of severity. We talked about how Chris Godwin had an ankle dislocation with a fracture. We saw him have multiple surgeries after that. And he's now out with another injury to one of the bones in his lower leg. These are difficult to come back from. Tony Pollard had something similar to this. Scatterboo's injury was just terrible to see. Is season ending you would expect. Had surgery last night in Philly, was taken to a local hospital and had surgery. That just suggests to me more of an urgent situation. Sometimes you have a fracture that's open, can puncture the skin. That would be something like what Alex Smith had back in the day. You know, we don't know. But usually when you're trying to get to surgery immediately that night, there is another concern that makes it more urgent. Wishing him all the best. A guy's amazing. Who's Tracy? Tyrone. Tracy. I was missing Tyrone. It wasn't coming to me right away, but him speaking afterwards about Scatter Boo, telling him, like, literally as he's going out on the car to go and go do it and keep the energy going. I think it's not just the loss of Scatter Boo for, you know, I've been like a fan. I tried drafting him in multiple leagues. I have him on almost every. Every roster where I could get him.
Field Yates
Fun to watch.
Stefania Bell
He's been fun to watch and he's been the energy for the New York Giants. And this is between losing Malik Neighbors and now Scatter Boo. I really, I. I feel for the team because it felt like the air got sucked out of the building literally when that happened. So that was a really tough one. In the same game, Saquon Barkley leaves with an injury luckily not anything nearly as severe. In fact, Saquon, talking to reporters afterwards, said it's nothing crazy. Listed with a groin injury. Wouldn't be surprised to him show up on the practice report. I believe they have a buy next week. So that is a very opportune time for him. If it's minor soft tissue injury, let's.
Daniel Dopp
See they get a buy plus an extra day they play Monday.
Stefania Bell
Night football Sunday night. So we like that.
Daniel Dopp
And then we'll talk more about the pickups tomorrow for Woodpecker Brazil. But Tyrone Tracy, Tank Bigsby will keep going tomorrow.
Stefania Bell
Quinchon Judkins shoulder injury that forced him to leave the game. Wasn't having a great game before he had the shoulder injury. No immediate update on the the severity post game. But just stay tuned. These are the ones to watch.
Daniel Dopp
Patriots run defense once again. Yep, they handle business and they get Bijon Robinson this weekend. So we'll talk about that throughout the week.
Field Yates
Do not love that. All right, Fields, you mentioned Tyrone Tracy we will mention tomorrow. But just in case people are wondering. Rostered in only 42% of league so very much still out there. Played well last year.
Daniel Dopp
Over a thousand total yards. Given the opportunity to start. All right.
Field Yates
All right, let's do some studs and duds, rip through a couple things. We had already mentioned Justin Fields a little bit. Fields, yeah.
Daniel Dopp
Just want to shout him out though. 19 plus fantasy points for Justin Fields after a tumultuous week. There were people that I saw who dropped Justin Fields and then picked him back up in the same week to start him and paid off for them.
Field Yates
I imagine yesterday's might have done that.
Daniel Dopp
I'm sorry I said 19.16.86. I thought he had a 2 point conversion to push him over 19. I was wrong. The jets though probably will stick with Justin Fields for another few weeks at minimum going forward because that was a very impressive performance.
Field Yates
I actually see him with 20.86 fantasy points.
Daniel Dopp
Okay, that's what I thought. There were two. Two point conversions. There we go.
Field Yates
There you go.
Daniel Dopp
All right, so I wasn't totally out of turn there. Yes. So Fields did get up to over 19 fantasy points. Over 20 fantasy points.
Field Yates
You know, Justin knew what they were doing. The Houston Texans wide receivers without Nico Collins, they look Great. Xavier Hutchinson 5 for 69 and a touchdown. 17. Oh, I'm sorry, Stefania. 17.9 fantasy points. Jaden Higgins 4 for 34 and a touchdown. 13.4 fantasy points. Led the team with eight targets. Even Jalen Noel, five catches for 63 yards. 11.3 fantasy points. In a week in which there were six teams on a buy and no Nico Collins and no Christian Kirby. If you needed to throw a dart again at a Houston Texans wide receiver and that's what you did, you at least left with double digit fantasy points. And in the case of Xavier Hutchinson, 17.9. That's borderline a top 10 week here in week eight.
Daniel Dopp
So he, he threw meaning C.J. stroud the heck out of the ball.
Field Yates
Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
Certainly did this 49ers team other they would run the football more. Nope. They just threw the ball all over the yard.
Stefania Bell
I just want to, you know, I hate to have to bring somebody up in the injury column without pointing out that they had their best fantasy day of the season. And that's Saquon Barkley. I mean, welcome back.
Daniel Dopp
Amazing.
Stefania Bell
Welcome back, Saquon Barkley. And you know, it's funny, for all the talk that he gave, he's such a good teammate, saying basically, as long as we're winning, it doesn't matter. He. The first thing he said in the locker room was, you know, yeah, finally, like he knew it. He had 14 carries for 150 yards and a touchdown. I mean, this was like a career divining day. Four catches for 24 yards and touchdown. 33.4 fantasy points. Points. Shame that it wasn't the most fantasy points by a running back when you have a day like that. But just, you know, thank goodness he still got it. It's not just him.
Field Yates
This would have been, I don't want to say just another game. This would have been just another game last year, but this year because he struggled like all of this. First game over 100 yards, first game over 20 fantasy points. First multi touchdown game. Like, we needed this. If you were a Saquon Barkley manager, you needed this game against the Giants.
Daniel Dopp
We could have had Saquon as our winner of the week. We could have made him a co winner of the week. We could have made at three running backs that won the week because not just Jonathan Taylor, but also Saquon Barkley and also James Cook.
Stefania Bell
Ridiculous.
Daniel Dopp
200 rushing yards against the Panthers. That was a 64 yard house call included. He was amazing. We talked about this on Friday. Like, can James Cook, like just get back on track a little bit. Back to bed, back to back. Relative duds for James Cook. The Bills came out like a team that lost two straight games and then at a bye week.
Field Yates
Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
And it's had a lot of time to think about what it's like to be on the winning side of the equation. James cook was amazing. 216 rushing yards, two touchdowns, 33.6 fantasy points. Which means that James Cook got zero in the passing game.
Field Yates
You want to know why?
Daniel Dopp
Still went for 33.6.
Field Yates
Because they were up like by 40 points right away. Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
Amazing. So James Cook, you were awesome. You Saquon definitely on that studs list, by the way.
Field Yates
I want to mention this on Saquon, you already said this. For Philadelphia, week nine is a buy.
Daniel Dopp
Yep.
Field Yates
Week 10, they play Green Bay. They have allowed the fifth fewest fantasy points per game to running backs. And then they play the Detroit Lions, who've allowed the third fewest fantasy points for game running back. So next three weeks are going to be you get a buy and then two tough games.
Stefania Bell
I see how you're trying to manifest like, you know, you're, you're talking about the lines like this going to put.
Field Yates
I'm not above that until my team gets a Super Bowl.
Stefania Bell
Right.
Field Yates
They're going to say anything.
Stefania Bell
Yeah, I see you. I see you. This is a strategy.
Daniel Dopp
Big three weeks for determining. I know that nothing is actually determined, but end of the year we're going to look at these 9, 10, 11 is weeks that could influence the top seeds in the NFC.
Field Yates
Yep. Drake may also was unbelievable yesterday. Drake May thing, he's just been so good.
Stefania Bell
The stud column like every week.
Field Yates
282 passing yards, three touchdowns, plus an interception. And the thing that we were asking for last year, more than anything, will you please just use your legs? And he's been doing it non stop. Seven carries for 50 yards, 26.3 fantasy points, two passing touchdowns. In six of his last seven games, he has two top two finishes and two top four finishes. Two top two and two top four. Big May has been unbelievable because you're.
Stefania Bell
Like, blah, blah, blah, plus an interception. I'm like, no, no, we don't want that.
Field Yates
Yeah, we don't need the interception. But I mean that's in case you're wondering where the two points went to.
Stefania Bell
Despite the interception, he still was a stud. It was just funny, like an extra added bonus, an interception. You know, we talked about all these tight ends who had great days, but we didn't mention Dallas Goddard. And with A.J. brown, he smashed, he smashed two touchdowns. And you know, shout out to Sal Pal, who every week is so happy because he is the tight end whisperer. He knows it. And as soon as we talk to him about what might happen with AJ Brown down this week, who would benefit? He was like, of course it's the tight end in Dallas Goddard who in Dallas. Goddard has been solid. I've had him on a couple of fantasy rappers rosters. He hasn't disappointed. But yesterday, finding the end zone twice, big day for him.
Field Yates
17.8 fantasy points was only his third best day of the season.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, 20. It was the second best day against the giants this year. 26 against him. The first time around. He slacked off yesterday.
Field Yates
Yeah, he has a. The idea that you as a tight end can score 26, 19.7 and 17.8 means your high end games at least are doing something for you.
Daniel Dopp
By the way, Khalil Shakir had a big day for the Bills. His best game of the season. He had a long touchdown catch on. He kind of weaved his his way to a 50 yard touchdown pass. The only Bills receiver on the radar. We can have a conversation about Keon Coleman soon, but he is a non factor right now for fantasy purposes.
Field Yates
All right, well great. Let's talk about some duds then. Because in that same game, Dalton Kincaid. Do you know The Bills scored 40 points in that game and we had some volume concerns about Dalton Kincaid coming into the week and then Dalton Kincaid just didn't materialize. I think this is just sort of what happens.
Daniel Dopp
This is it.
Field Yates
Right? Like this is one of the things that we talked about with Dalton Kincaid. He's not seeing a lot of volume. He was just being really efficient and finding his way into the end zone. When he doesn't do that, that even in a week in which The Bills score 40 points, he just falls flat. Unfortunately, he does.
Daniel Dopp
We talked about Darn Mooney already, but a great opportunity and he just completely whiffed. Did he? Yesterday, the entire Falcons offense yesterday. One catch and four targets for 11 yards. We mentioned Quinton Judkins as well. Prior to the injury. I get he got hurt. Yeah. But prior to the injury he had two catches for negative four yards and nine. I'm sorry, three catches for negative two yards. I had it for two for four.
Field Yates
Wait, so we're getting some passing game usage at least?
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, negative passing yards. But he's on the Matthew Stafford receiving plan. And then under 20 rushing yards for Quinn Shaw Judkins. So sub five fantasy points. That's a good joke for Judkins. Again, you're starting Bijan Robinson. Yes, absolutely. Unequivocally. But it's a good test for him as a runner this upcoming week. As I think I saw the stat from the incomparable Mike Reese. The Patriots are the first team since 1950 to not allow a running back to reach 50 rushing yards in the first eight games of the season.
Field Yates
That's pretty good.
Daniel Dopp
Quiet day for the Bucs offense.
Stefania Bell
I was, yeah, they were my next ones. Mecca Buka. You know, and I feel even better off of late. I, I, I even feel bad. Well, you know, and we knew he was a little bit banged up, so I kind of thought the first game, like, I'm not going to put too much into it, but only three for 35 yesterday, six and a half fantasy points. And Baker Mayfield, who has been. We've talked week in and week out about how great he's been. 4.08 fantasy points, guys, that's hard to do.
Field Yates
The one thing I'll say that's a positive for me coming out of this game, you've had three straight duds, I think, from Mecca, Abuka, basically, after starting the season really good, they get a buy in week nine. So, like, let's just rest, get as much time to heal up, come back fully healthy.
Stefania Bell
And the three straight games to point out, one was where he got hurt so he left early.
Field Yates
Correct.
Stefania Bell
The next one was coming back initially after being hurt and so quick. Right. That was so soon. And now this one. So I would be careful about reading too much into that. I think he'll be better after the buy.
Field Yates
I agree with you there. All right, let's dive into Monday Night Football. We got the Commanders taking on the Chiefs. We got a handful of questions here. When you look at these guys, one of the things that I'm wondering, I think this is going to be the first time since week three that we're going to see both of these wide receivers, albeit without Jaden Daniels under center. So what does it look like for this passing game with Marcus Mariota, knowing that we do finally have Terry McLaurin and Deebo Samuel back in fully healthy? That's one of the things I'm just going to watch because we haven't seen a lot of those two guys on the field together so far.
Stefania Bell
Yeah, that's obviously, you know. Know. You know that I'm going to be watching it, too. Well, I know that I'm going to be watching these guys because whenever you're coming off an injury, I'm not really worried about Debo. You know, he. It's a thing. It's a heel bruise, which, of course, rest is the main thing that helps. And we knew last week. He said it was aggravating him. He got the rest. If you watch Steve O's career with the 49ers at all, that's how he play. You know, he knows when it's time to be out for a week and he'll come back and look just like he did before. The thing that bothered him, Terry McLaurin is more interesting to me because. Because it's been so long. Right. He's been out with this quad injury. Obviously, your quad, big muscle in the front of your thigh. Pretty important if you're explosive, physical wide receiver. And there was a little tease like he might come back last week, but after a really aggressive practice, he wasn't quite ready. And he talked a lot about it. I mean, I love when players talk like this. He talked about the things that he wasn't able to do last week that he felt like he could do this week and it all fit into the kind of player he is.
Daniel Dopp
So.
Stefania Bell
Whereas I'm a little more concerned sometimes starting a guy when they've been out this long with a soft tissue injury. I feel like McLaren really tested it and gave himself the extra time so that he could come back and slot right into his normal self. It's hard to measure because we're doing it with Marcus Mariota, but you could say he practiced with Marcus Mariota all week because Jaden Daniels wasn't practicing. So I have big, big hopes for how Terry McLaurin will look coming into this week.
Daniel Dopp
I'm watching Isaiah Pacheco tonight. The Chiefs last week turned to him a lot and now some of that was. Most of that was prior to when the game got totally out of hand. Has Isaiah Pacheco maybe gotten like a little bit of a grip back on this backfield? It's going to be kind of annoying tonight when at some point Kareem Hunt like takes the goal line carry and Rashard Smith might get, you know, three targets in this game as well. But Pacheco maybe has a chance to kind of grab some of the value back that we hoped he would have coming into this season. And then frankly, guys, I'm just watching like in Washington keep his competitor like the Chiefs right now are playing with the confidence that they deserve after waxing the Raven Raiders last week. They beat them 30 to what? Nothing. Yeah, 30 to nothing. First ever shutout in the regular season for an Andy Reid coach team. And they had 30 points. They had 30 first downs. The Ravens had 30. Raiders, excuse me, had 30 total plays. So hopefully this commander's team can keep it close. It has. We started the week with a non competitive field.
Field Yates
Hold on.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, you to want you.
Field Yates
You are taking on our producer Christina Buswell in fantasy football. Excuse me, in the fantasy focus league. Yeah, she's got 134.9. You've got 125.8. So you're down by about nine points. And you have the Kansas City Chiefs defense against.
Daniel Dopp
I thought I was down just over nine points, which means I need to get 10 because defenses can't get decimal score.
Field Yates
No, you are down by 9 right now, and there may have been a stat correction or something.
Daniel Dopp
9.04. So I need to get 10.
Field Yates
Okay, okay, I see what you're saying. 9.04.
Daniel Dopp
I need 10 from the.
Field Yates
Because there are no decimals is what you're saying.
Daniel Dopp
So pick six, please. Pick six? Yes, pick six. That gets you there.
Field Yates
Pick six will get you there.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, it's.
Field Yates
It's ordinary. Our producer very much is loud in our ear saying, no, we don't want that. We don't want it.
Daniel Dopp
And you need seven from Xavier Worthy.
Field Yates
I need seven from Xavier Worthy in order to be able to beat Joe Fortenbaugh in fantasy football now. So hopefully we get at least seven fantasy points.
Stefania Bell
I've got Terry McLaurin in a bunch of leagues, so I, you know, I. I also am trying to manifest by. I'm talking about how good he's gonna look. You know, one other thing I want to keep an eye on. So Rasheed Rice, you know, he came and he looked great, right? You know, he came right into the offense. No hesitation. But Andy Reid said that they were deliberate in how they used him, and he's like, yeah, like, you know, 40%, 50%. He goes, we want to build him back up. He goes, you know, like 90% of, you know, basically of the snaps. And I thought, well, if you have Rishi Rice in fantasy, like, look out, because they are very clear, and the Chiefs rarely are, but they're very clear about wanting to use him and focus on him being on the field as a target for my home. So I think he's going to be their number one big target.
Daniel Dopp
There we go.
Field Yates
Do you think the Chiefs even play four quarters tonight? Or they bench everybody after three quarters like last year? If they play the way that they've been playing, it's totally in their bag. I would take, obviously, the Chiefs over the commanders in this one.
Daniel Dopp
I'm picking the Chiefs as well.
Stefania Bell
Yeah, no kidding.
Field Yates
All right. All right, let's dive into our mailbag. We're getting a couple of questions here really quickly before we get out on a Monday. Thank you so much to our buddy Eric Moody, who hangs out in chat with our YouTube chat every single day. Our first question that we have comes from standby. It's getting there, guys. First one comes from Juan. Juan wants to know, do we think Xavier Worthy is going to drop 11 points tonight? I think he's going to.
Stefania Bell
I bet you need 11 points.
Field Yates
Sounds like it.
Daniel Dopp
Juan needs 11. You need 7.
Field Yates
I need 7.
Daniel Dopp
11.5 it is.
Field Yates
Yes. I'm in. He'll always be open. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, I'm good to go. So this is Rasheed Rice's team. It feels like even after just one week, it felt like that. But I believe that we can make seven fantasy points. I believe we can make 11 fantasy points for you. We're going to make that happen. All right, another question here. This one comes from Troy. Troy wants to know, do we think that JCM can have a good game and get back to RB2 number?
Daniel Dopp
This one makes me nervous. Yeah. It has to happen early. It has to be a hot start for the commanders.
Field Yates
He's not a pass catcher. Right.
Daniel Dopp
He has seven catches and seven games this season. If they are down, Jeremy McNichols will play more snaps. So Bill's got to get it done early because if this game goes as I anticipated, I think we all anticipate. And the Chiefs are humming on offense. It's going to be tough. So I had an RB30 coming into the week. I was down on Bill. Yeah.
Field Yates
As far as running backs here on Sunday alone, he might be my RB2.
Daniel Dopp
Monday.
Field Yates
Yeah, sorry, Monday. But there's only two running and would I even put. Would you want to put Isaiah Pacheco ahead of him? I would, but it doesn't feel. Yeah, I guess maybe we're just going to be a better team. All right, all right.
Stefania Bell
All right.
Field Yates
We had two. A couple more questions here. Two or three more questions. This one comes from the real DJ Everlast. Is Matthew golden droppable yet?
Daniel Dopp
Drop him like a beat. I would say this dj, he is. I think he's on the list. This always comes down to roster construction. Like if you're at the spot where you need it. Do I think he is droppable? Yes. Would I go out there and drop him on principle?
Field Yates
No, I wouldn't drop him just to drop him, but if there was a hole in my roster that could be filled by somebody on waivers.
Daniel Dopp
Yes.
Field Yates
Then yes, he's roster. He's rostered 77% of leagues.
Daniel Dopp
Wow. What's his give me? His recent game finishes, his finish, his point, I should say, yeah.
Field Yates
I'll give you this here. So I'll just go quick. He's played eight games this season. 3.6, 1.5, 10.1, 11.3, 13.2. So a stretch of three games with double digits and then 7.7 and 3.4. He has never topped six targets. In fact, he's only Done that one time so far this year. Every other game is basically three, four or five targets for Matthew Gould Holden. That's not going to get it done.
Stefania Bell
I also don't see that changing a lot. Right.
Field Yates
Because Christian Watson's coming back.
Stefania Bell
Christian Watson's back.
Field Yates
And you got Jaden Reed that's still coming off ir. Tucker Craft is the guy here.
Daniel Dopp
Right?
Stefania Bell
Yeah.
Field Yates
Yeah. When you have. They've just got so many wide receivers.
Daniel Dopp
I do, yeah.
Field Yates
All right, we got one more question here from our YouTube chat. This one comes in from our buddy Andy. Andy wants to know, in a two quarterback league, that's ppr. I'm rostering both Jalen Hurts, Jackson Dart, Joe Flacco and Brock Purdy. When Purdy is healthy, do I drop Brock Purdy or Jackson Dart?
Daniel Dopp
First of all, it's amazing that you're not considering Joe Flacco.
Field Yates
Right.
Daniel Dopp
I'm not blaming you. Just like here's how it works.
Stefania Bell
Also you have so many.
Daniel Dopp
I think you need, you know, Hertz clear obvious number one. Yes. Jackson Dart to me is number two because of two things.
Field Yates
Yep.
Daniel Dopp
One, we don't know when Brock Purdy will be back. Two, he came back the last time immediately re or aggravated the toe injury. So there's a little bit less certainty about how long he'll stay on the field. Joe Flacco, before I would drop none of them. It's a two quarterback league. Like this is defense. If you're allowed to keep four, which you've been keeping four for right now, don't drop any of them.
Field Yates
I think I would do that as well because as soon as you drop that person for someone else that you add, you're giving a like a quarterback to another team. Like I wouldn't want to do that.
Stefania Bell
Yeah. And look how many injuries there have been including Brock. I do think that part of the reason he's out out so long is because of aggravated his toe the last time and now they're like whoa, whoa, whoa. We cannot take that kind of chance.
Field Yates
With him taking it.
Stefania Bell
And I think he's going to be back soon. I think it could be that, that he's back in another week or two. But yes is he's the least certain and I'm not counting on him to be running a lot. But still if anybody could go down any week as we've already seen and if he's back and he's playable, you'd be Brock's awesome.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. I mean it's just right now based off all the information we have at this moment.
Field Yates
Yep. Feels like in a quarterback two quarterback league or a super flex league you are basically required by law to have at least three quarterbacks.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, you should have four if you can.
Field Yates
You should have four if you can. To give you hard to do. Exactly. And you have four quarterbacks. So unless you're getting something really great off the waiver wire in order to drop that quarterback time with Fields. Yeah, like I don't know who it would be. Would you drop let's say for some reason two quarterback league and it seems crazy but like maybe Tyrone Tracy is out there.
Daniel Dopp
No, I would trade my quarterback for somebody better than Tyrone.
Field Yates
I just want to, I want to make sure I agree with you.
Daniel Dopp
He'll be solid. But now.
Field Yates
Okay, I'm keeping four quarterbacks. Stefania, you're going to keep four quarterbacks?
Stefania Bell
Yeah, I'm trying to get four.
Field Yates
We're in a super dynasty league and we need as many.
Stefania Bell
I have either gets replaced every time I draft somebody who's like this rookie is the one that was the high draft pick that's going to make it. It ends up not working out for me. So I just, I thought I'd stay silent in that part cuz I cannot keep four quarterbacks. I would kill to have four quarterbacks right now.
Field Yates
All right, that's going to do it for us today. Have fun watching Monday night Football tonight. Today's show was presented by our friends over at Little Caesars. For field and Stefania, don't forget to love each other. Be kind to yourself. You deserve it. And we'll see you guys on Tuesday.
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An in-depth breakdown of the most surprising studs and duds from NFL Week 8, with spirited debates about player performances, injury impacts, waiver wire implications, and actionable fantasy football advice after a wild week full of unexpected outcomes.
The Fantasy Focus crew recap a chaotic Week 8, highlight the players who unexpectedly went off (studs) and major disappointments (duds), discuss pressing injury news, and provide insight into what it all means for fantasy managers going forward. The episode features sharp debates, strong opinions, and plenty of stat-backed analysis, with the team maintaining a lively, upbeat tone throughout.
Winners and game-changers who dominated fantasy lineups
Big names who let fantasy managers down
Stefania shares key injury insights and their implications
Practical advice for fantasy managers
Rapid-fire, actionable advice for common listener questions
The Fantasy Focus crew’s Week 8 recap zeroes in on the most stunning performances—both positive and negative—in a wild slate that upended many fantasy expectations. The show’s tone balances analytical rigor with irreverent commentary, offering both data-driven takeaways and practical advice for listeners scrambling into Week 9. Injuries, matchups, and unexpected player usage are dissected so managers can make sharp roster moves with confidence.
Final Thought (Field):
“For me, I always visualize these things so much more in, like, ‘You’re starting this player. You are probably starting this player…’” (32:09)
No matter how wild the week, the Fantasy Focus crew keeps it fun and actionable for fantasy football fans.