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Daniel Dopp
Fantasy Focus. Hello and welcome to Fantasy Focus Football presented by Little Caesars. My name is Daniel do alongside field Jates and Stefania Bell. We are here on a Monday, getting ready to recap everything that was week nine of the football season. Pumped to have you guys here. How are you both doing today?
Stefania Bell
I'm pretty good.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah?
Stefania Bell
Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
You said that with a rise in your voice, inflection. I think that means you're lying.
Stefania Bell
I know. I. I have mixed feeling. It was a day of mixed emotion.
Daniel Dopp
Okay. All right.
Stefania Bell
I will say Niners took care business.
Daniel Dopp
That's right.
Stefania Bell
So feeling good about that.
Field Yates
One of the great stories in the NFL 6 and 3 and doing so with just two full starts for Brock Purdy. Like shout out Mac Jones, who's been so, so good for them, Very happy for him. Big win for them yesterday. And we got another huge game tonight, which I feel like tonight, even if both teams have losing records going into it.
Daniel Dopp
Yep.
Field Yates
Potential for a lot of fantasy on the line. So we'll finish up the show by giving a quick preview of Monday Night Football. The Cowboys playing host to the Arizona Cardinals.
Daniel Dopp
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Stefania Bell
Field.
Field Yates
Game time.
Stefania Bell
Who?
Field Yates
Thank you. Just game time.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, there's no who at the end. Yeah, it's just game time. But go check that out. Sam Darnold crushed this last week. 330 passing yards, four touchdowns, 27 points. It's almost like it's a good decision to play quarterbacks against the Commanders.
Field Yates
It certainly works in your favor. It may not be quite as good as playing against the Bengals, but it definitely works in your favor. Sam Was brilliant. I was thinking about this on the way in. Single player transaction from this offseason. So not like the aggregate of all the guys that maybe one team brought in, but just one player. One move of this off season, I think the best move is either Sam Darnold or Daniel Jones going to their respective teams. Now, 7 and 2 in the case of Indiana Jones and 6 and 2 in the case of Sam Darnold. But just a masterful performance from Sam. Did not have a single incompletion in the first half.
Stefania Bell
That was nuts.
Field Yates
Nuts. He had three in the second half. So he really slacked off 16 for 16 in the first half. Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
He was so great. He was amazing.
Field Yates
Yep.
Daniel Dopp
All right, we'll dive into the rest of the Seahawks in a minute, but let's first get ready with our Monday morning blitz.
Field Yates
Right.
Daniel Dopp
Stefania, I am going to start with you in this one. What's your first big takeaway? Your winner of the week.
Stefania Bell
Listen, I'm very happy about this because yesterday on fantasy football, now, I believe I said I thought this guy was going to have a big day because I thought the team really waited until Brock Bowers was healthy to bring him back. And what I meant was I thought he'd look, you know, like the Brock Bowers we saw before. But no, he decided to go historic on us.
Daniel Dopp
That's right.
Stefania Bell
Putting up 43.3 fantasy points, most by any player so far this season. Most by any tight end since 2020. That was Darren Waller, who. Who put up that many fantasy points five years ago, but also for the Raiders. Believable.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, that's right. I got a quick, if you will want to, our friend Tristan H. Cockroft, who we both were all friends with here, had a great. That's right. Had a great Tweet. Brock Bowers 43.3 fantasy points are the 10th most scored in a game by any tight end in history. The last one to do it. Field. You called it. Darren Waller, also with the Raiders, who had 45 in week 13 of 2020. That's an unbelievable. That was a. That was a historic game that we saw from Bach Bowers.
Field Yates
It was a complete reminder of how talented he is, how he is the best T in football, by the way. And I was thinking about this yesterday as the game was winding down. That game ended up going to overtime. The Raven lose 30 to 29 to the Jaguars. Jaguars now 5 and 3. But you guys may recall from Billy Madison where there's a. It's a meme that goes around often where Adam Sandler is holding up the dodgeball like now you're all in big, big trouble. And I was like everybody who has Brock Bowers on their team now that he is back and posted that meme.
Daniel Dopp
That's the meme.
Field Yates
Then it dawned on me. Yeah, you might be hurting because I've got a team that has been basically left for dead because I use my first round pick on Brock Bowers. So I am very much in the well of my team's stand my league standings. That being said, if you found a way to stay afloat during the first eight weeks of the season not entirely without Brock Bowers, but basically without Brock Bowers for seven out of the first eight weeks then you are set up incredibly well for the rest of the season. Best tight end in fantasy football? I don't think it's close, just a masterful.
Stefania Bell
He also remains like the absolute proof positive that you do not need a functioning team in terms of wins and losses. You can have a quarterback who's underperforming. You can have all of these things and still be a fantasy rock star. One handed catches over your back shoulder going into the end. I mean just unbelievable play. He's so talented, fun to watch.
Daniel Dopp
How many games did he end up missing? Officially 4 games, 3 games, 4 games, 5 games. There was a couple of weeks because.
Field Yates
Of the buy 4, 5, 6, 7 I believe.
Daniel Dopp
So with that Stefania 4. First week back on the field, did you see anything where you were like just watching his body, the way that he moved, like any reason to be? I mean obviously not, no.
Stefania Bell
I think he answered all the questions because that was just it that the things that he said he couldn't do before was he couldn't dig right? You mean you're running hard and you have to stop, decelerate hard and push off. Any knee instability is going to give you trouble with that. He, he knew that he had to get that back. They waited unfortunately and made us lose fantasy points while he tried to play through that. But it really shows you the difference between something that's subtle, right? Non surgical subtle instability. And we were barely getting anything out of him and now he's healthy and it skyrockets up. It's cool to see it in that.
Field Yates
Regard it was awesome. It was amazing. It was vintage. And if you happen to buy low on Brock Bowers, maybe somebody was desperate in your league. Congratulations to you. He was great. My winner of the week. Daniel is the highest scoring quarterback of the week going into Monday Night Football. That's Caleb Williams who The Bengals can heal all of your offensive woes. Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears win one of the wildest games of the NFL season. The final score is 47 to 42. The Bears are up by 14 with less than two minutes to go. They end up scoring a last second touchdown. Colson Loveland should also be mentioned in this portion of the conversation. He was amazing yesterday, but big shout out to Caleb Williams. I asked this question this show last week. Is Caleb Williams a still a starting fantasy quarterback or is it simply matchup dependent? Yesterday proved that if a matchup is.
Daniel Dopp
Right, it's a good matchup.
Field Yates
I still think there's some work to do from Caleb in terms of proving that he is a top 10 to 12 option week in and week out. But he had four total touchdowns and I felt like I was reading the brain, the mind, the wizardry of Kyle Sopi last night when I saw this and the NFL always does this on Sunday nights. They send out a packet, they call it seven from Sunday and it's seven notable statistical nuggets from the day that was and one of them was like something to the effect of and I saw a bunch of people use this or maybe even Chicago Bears PR had dug it up prior to the NFL digging it up. But it was like Caleb Williams because the first player in NFL history with 200 plus passing yards and 20 plus completions and four, four total touchdowns and two or more receptions and a receiving touchdown.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, so it was one of those.
Field Yates
Where it was like it's very obscure but I still like I took it sinker. That's right. So Caleb had two catches yesterday.
Stefania Bell
Right. Because it was a complete game. And I think for me what I saw was he was functioning very well within the structure of the offense but then he had to make a couple creative plays where he had to scramble and do something on his feet and he also used his leg. So all the things that we pretty much listed off yesterday that we wanted to see from him, he did all of it. I feel like and I don't claim to know him well, but I did spend time with him when we were working on that piece of and I feel like he's such a processor, very analytical and very self critical. I mean it's part of what drives him to be good that I feel like he needs games like this back to back to get the confidence to continue to play like this. Like we, that's what we haven't seen. I feel like it breaks down sometimes when he's getting hit and he's he, he's not seeing the field well and then it falls apart. I'd really love to see him be able to carry this forward for a couple of consecutive games.
Field Yates
Well, they get the Giants next week and you can attest not a particularly good defense.
Daniel Dopp
Absolute.
Field Yates
Who's your winner?
Daniel Dopp
First off, I would like to say that in a game like this where the Detroit Lions unfortunately play bad, the wizardry of Ben Johnson for the Chicago Bears on offense, it just like I see it. I desperately want it.
Field Yates
Things can be true at once. I know the Lions can still be a great team.
Daniel Dopp
Yes, they can.
Field Yates
Great offense.
Daniel Dopp
Thank you.
Field Yates
John Morton can be very capable.
Daniel Dopp
Yes.
Field Yates
Ben Johnson can also be an outstanding coach too. It's possible that multiple things can be true.
Daniel Dopp
It was fun when my quarterback was catching touchdowns last year and now Caleb Williams is the one doing that.
Field Yates
So almost caught one this year. You did almost take it over that penalty. But I digress. Do what you got.
Daniel Dopp
You had alluded to it already, but my monster winner of the week is Colston Loveland. Absolutely huge. Six receptions on seven targets, 118 yards, two touchdowns, including the aforementioned game winning, improbable touchdown score at the end of the game. That was unbelievable.
Field Yates
And by the way, Cole Comet left the game with a concussion. Yes, he did feel zero idea whether Cole commit will be available next Sunday when they play against the Giants. But if he isn't, it's going to be hard for us to not consider Colston Loveland a top 12ish option at tight end.
Daniel Dopp
It's like you're reading right off my notes. You got all the things, buddy. No, no, you're good. Cole Comet left at just before halftime with a concussion. He had the second half all to himself. Unless he concludes the protocol which will continue to monitor all week, I as well have him in the top 10 to 12 conversation heading into week 10.
Field Yates
Yeah, he was awesome. Really cool moment for him to. And this is how the world works. I mean and I, I, we contribute to this. It's part of our job. We have to kind of be keeping up on takes all the time and then revisiting takes all the time. But Colson Loveland, a lot of talk was how could the Bears have passed Tyler Warren when there was Colston for Colston Loveland.
Stefania Bell
Right.
Field Yates
And it's like I think what the reality was for those two players is that they're both exceptional young tight end prospects.
Daniel Dopp
Really good football.
Field Yates
Yeah. And Tyler Warren's. I will take nothing away from him other than noting that like he probably went To a spot where they needed the tight end to play a lot sooner. Leveling, got his chance to play and he was excellent yesterday. Both of those guys are two of the brightest young stars in the NFL.
Daniel Dopp
It's been great. Can I give you my loser just to follow right off of that?
Field Yates
Whatever you want, man.
Daniel Dopp
In a game in which over 80 points were scored, Rome Adun, he had.
Field Yates
Like 15 or 16.
Daniel Dopp
Comes up with a goose egg. Yeah, I don't understand this one. Roma Dun, played 76 snaps. He played more than any other skill position player on either team in this one.
Field Yates
Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
Three targets, zero catches, had a drop in the end zone.
Field Yates
Yeah, that was one of those.
Stefania Bell
Where he put his hands on his head.
Field Yates
He knew he was kind of running like he was running. If you're watching from Caleb's vantage point, he's running left to right, he's in between two defenders, and Caleb puts it on his right hip.
Stefania Bell
When Rome is running this way, it was tough.
Field Yates
It's one of those where I truly believe Rome catches that pretty often, more often than not. But I also truly believe that Caleb Williams needs to put that ball right in the gut there. But yes, that wouldn't. And he had a play that was called back because of a penalty as well. So. Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
Let me ask you a question, if you guys don't mind. First four weeks of the season, he had seven or more targets in every single game. Then they had the bye week. Coming out of the buy, he has one game with more than seven targets so far. He now has under five and a half fantasy points in three of the four games post the buy. We had talked about earlier this offseason, like the panic meter. The field Yates panic meter. Is it starting to register on Roma Dunes? Not even worried about it yet. Okay.
Field Yates
D.J. turner got him. Mike talked about this on Thursday. He's been quietly one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL.
Daniel Dopp
Even though the Bengals were a great matchup, D.J. turner was.
Field Yates
He's like the only good defensive player that's healthy right now because Troy Hendrickson is dealing with that hip injury. Well, when you look at the box.
Daniel Dopp
Score or you just check in and you see bears 43, Bengals 41, or whatever the score was. And then you look and you see, oh, Rome got me zero.
Field Yates
So let's put it this way then. All right. There was a time where we were like, Rome is a top 10 wide receiver in fantasy football. That is not where I'm at with.
Daniel Dopp
Kind of leveled out a little bit.
Field Yates
But do I think is he am I going to start him every single week. Yeah, I plan on doing so until proven otherwise. Okay. And again, sometimes great players like the one I'll talk about as my loser of the week, just have duds. Jameer Gibbs, 5.8 fantasy points.
Stefania Bell
I know.
Field Yates
Second fewest ever in a game. This is his third season in the NFL.
Stefania Bell
He was another receiving votes for me. Yeah.
Field Yates
Yeah. Hard not to.
Daniel Dopp
And I don't think he received any votes in that game. Sorry, I was trying to make a reception. Yeah, I was trying to do a reception joke. It didn't land.
Field Yates
It's wild, though, because this is now the fourth game this year that Jameer Gibbs has been held to 10 or fewer receiving yards. He had three games of that variety last year, the entire season.
Daniel Dopp
Of 10 or fewer.
Field Yates
Of 10 or fewer. He had three last year with 10 or fewer. This year he now has four with 10 or fewer. And I think, and Mike pointed this out on Twitter, Daniel, you've been telling us about this throughout the season. Like, they've totally shifted the way this offense is being played. And one of the realities of Jameer Gibbs taking on a larger role, just like in general as the workhorse, is that he's getting more touches. He's also getting more pass blocking reps. Like there's last year. The idea was, Monty can really hammer you, David Montgomery. And then when we're ready to throw some ridiculous pass to Jameer Gibbs, we'll do it. And it might be five or six or seven times a game. We've seen less of that this year. However, still an amazing player at 83 rushing receiving yards just a couple of weeks ago. Like Gibbs, do I feel any differently about him now compared to where I was coming into the week? No. I'm just disappointed because a lot of people say to themselves, I have Jameer Gibbs. I have a chance this week. You don't have a chance.
Stefania Bell
I think that whole set it and forget it mentality is where I came up with my loser of the week, too, because that's what happens. You're like, when you set your roster, you're like, okay, I got this injury this bye week. I got to plug in this one. Who knows what's going to happen? I'm going to dart throw over here, but look who I have in this slot.
Daniel Dopp
But I know my RB one is set.
Stefania Bell
Jameer Gibbs. Well, guess what? If you felt that way about Jonathan Taylor, as I did.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Stefania Bell
Going into our war room league matchup, and then you check the score later, you're like, wait, did he get hurt like what is happening because you don't have your eyes on that game necessarily. Jonathan Taylor, I felt it only fair because he's been in my winner column so much and I've been giving him all these flowers that I had to acknowledge that he, he can have a bad game once in a while. He did 7.7 fantasy points. Season low for him. What's really happened is Christian McCaffrey's now passed him up as a number one running back on season.
Daniel Dopp
They've been back and forth.
Stefania Bell
I mean, Jonathan Taylor, you let that crowd go. I need you to bounce back and be vying for that crown next week.
Daniel Dopp
That crown, I mean, with what you're talking about. I feel like the top three running backs have separated themselves in fantasy football. For us, I think it's Jonathan Taylor, CMC and Bijon Robinson and I think those are the clear cuts.
Field Yates
Devon Hn, I'd say was part of.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, that's okay. That's a fair. With his pass catching ability, it's four.
Field Yates
And then sort of a baby.
Daniel Dopp
If Gibbs was catching the ball as much, he would have been up there. But without the pass catching ability.
Field Yates
Gibbs, Josh Jacobs.
Daniel Dopp
That's a tough one, Stefania, because obviously we all trusted Jonathan Taylor. You have a day like this where.
Stefania Bell
It'S just like the week before.
Field Yates
I think all three of the players we discussed will still be comfortably in lineups.
Daniel Dopp
Agreed.
Field Yates
Weak.
Stefania Bell
It's more that we felt like the losers because we know that they have so much more.
Daniel Dopp
Exactly. Exactly.
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Stefania Bell
Yeah, well you know what, it's non player. It's a game. That Raiders Jaguars game. Do you know that the score was 6 to 3 at the half and between them they scored 50 points in the second half of the overtime?
Daniel Dopp
That's amazing.
Stefania Bell
Saying it was like you had the I don't know what happened at halftime, but all of a sudden everybody woke up and started throwing the ball around. There was a lot of weirdness that happened in that game. Missed extra point on the Raiders first score.
Daniel Dopp
Yep.
Stefania Bell
Going into the half that was the six of the six and three. That was the difference in the game. Yeah, I mean it ended up being a difference maker in the game. They missed a two point conversion at the end on a really weird, you know, good defensive play. Tip ball that you had, you know, wide open in the back of the end zone. Tyler Lockett, newly acquired. They thought he was going to be the one who was going to seal the deal and over time that didn't end up happening. Trevor Lawrence came into the game sick, didn't feel well, was kind of like, yeah, great, glad we won, want to go lie down? Just a weird game.
Daniel Dopp
And I was gonna say we had two things of history because the first one we already mentioned was Brock Bowers and then Cam Little.
Stefania Bell
Cam Little, 68 yards, longest field goal in the NFL. And that was nuts.
Daniel Dopp
That's a bomb.
Stefania Bell
Yeah, a bomb. You know it's getting to be that punts. I I really would love to see data on this at some point. Like how many punts do we have versus we're just gonna throw the kicker out if we're Half. Give it a shot away and give it a shot.
Daniel Dopp
It's either a kicker or we're just gonna go for it on 4th and 3. Right. We've seen so much more of that this year.
Field Yates
Or 4th and 7.
Daniel Dopp
Like the packers team from Mahomes this last week was unbelievable.
Field Yates
Ridiculous.
Daniel Dopp
I can't believe they did that.
Field Yates
I'm going to be very short and very not so sweet on my. What the heck. You're just constantly cruising through like guys that just did nothing. Roma Dunes A was at one point my answer for this. Evan Ingram joined him. Oh my God. So a guy that we had been so much Evan Ingram building some. A little bit of trust. Right. Like at tight end you're looking for maybe not 20 for Evan Ingram, but could we get like 4 for 52 or something? The answer is no.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. Not in that one. No. I'm going to go the other side of this and bring it back to a little bit of positive before we move on to the rest of our takeaways. My what the heck is second backup running back in the NFL to just dominate when he gets the touches. Kyle, man.
Field Yates
Yeah, baby.
Daniel Dopp
Over 175 rushing yards.
Field Yates
It's amazing.
Daniel Dopp
Top four rushing games this year. James Cook, 213 or 2. Say was 216 somewhere like that. You had both of the Rico Dowdle games when he came in and now Kyle Manungai at 175 rushing yards played almost 75% of the snaps. A reminder it wasn't just no DeAndre Swift. It was also because there was no Rashawn Johnson in this one. So he was basically had the entire backfield to himself. 26 carries, 176 yards, three catches for 22 yards, a total of almost 200 yards from scrimmage and 22.8 fantasy points. Cincy's defense is awful.
Field Yates
Yep.
Daniel Dopp
And that was great when you got this. Like if you found out last minute that DeAndre Swift was out and you had either planned ahead or gone out and grabbed Kyle Monongai because we've been talking about him. We had been saying this snap share has been. Has been becoming more of a committee. We've been closer back and forth. So currently RB3 in the week, I guess moving forward. Do you think now that. Yeah. This is a committee, right?
Field Yates
Committee. Maybe not a total committee, but I think that we're going to see way more. Swift was at 60% of the snaps.
Stefania Bell
One of my takeaways was the whole thing with the backfield. We have another situation.
Field Yates
You want to do it then right now.
Stefania Bell
We can do it right now.
Daniel Dopp
Let's do it.
Stefania Bell
You want it? Yeah. We go right into that. My my one of my takeaway was for the week was Mananga made the case for offloading DeAndre Swift more so DeAndre Swift doesn't play because of the groin injury and the question now to me becomes do they a take longer to allow DeAndre Swift to get healthy? MangaI owns it in his own right. Does DeAndre Swift come back and this becomes a management thing of this groin but in order to help him manage it, it still heavily leans toward Menangai or do we get the dreaded Seattle backfield?
Field Yates
I lean towards DeAndre Swift holding a little bit more value than either Seattle back does. But I think that DeAndre Swift who was kind of flirting with being like a top 12 consideration falls a little bit back in the RB2 pack. That's where I lean right.
Daniel Dopp
Agreed.
Field Yates
Is that like he's more along the line? I'm trying to think of a good example. Running back's been so bizarre this year. I'm just trying to think of like a good like low end RB2 right now. Like maybe a little bit more like Ramandre Stevenson when he's healthy. Like, you know, you're probably starting him maybe like J.K. dobbins more receiving value obviously than you are more receiving value.
Stefania Bell
And, and that also I think allows you. But you have to, you have to make sure he's healthy or in certain packages he just won't be able, you know, he won't produce as well, he won't be as explosive. And then they'll be like ah, we really don't want to use him much anymore. So I, I'd be a little nervous if I have Deanders on my roster.
Daniel Dopp
Also, as much as I love this game and I don't want to fault him for this, but the Bengals are really bad. Now that's not like a fault for you to be able to crush a bad defense is what you should do. But I'm not expecting this from Kyle Menungai every single week. Obviously this was him taking advantage of a really good matchup.
Field Yates
So I would say this is that like you're right, the Bengals are awful on defense, but 200 yards is ridiculous.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, that's really good.
Field Yates
By the way, I saw we talked about this on fantasy football now yesterday, Mike or you, somebody brought up the fact that Manungai was minus 140 to score a touchdown at ESPN and it's like the guy goes for freaking 200 yards and doesn't find the end zone. Doesn't get any. Course, you know, a weird day in that regard, but a huge, huge day from him. Let's get into the takeaways beyond that.
Daniel Dopp
Let's do it. Go ahead, Field Yates.
Field Yates
Well, take away Jonathan Taylor.
Daniel Dopp
Okay.
Field Yates
How many better pure rushers have there been this year than Rico Dowdle?
Daniel Dopp
Oh, just like a straight up rusher in the NFL.
Field Yates
Rushers in the NFL.
Daniel Dopp
Maybe. Maybe James Cook.
Field Yates
That's right. Yep, he's. Those two by definition have been pure because they.
Daniel Dopp
James has not had a lot of passing game usage either. Or receiving game usage either. So yeah, maybe James is now third.
Field Yates
In the NFL in rushing yards. He's third in NFL.
Daniel Dopp
Really?
Field Yates
He was barely playing for like half of his team's games. But yesterday after Dave Canales told us, hey, it's coming. Rico Dowdle is going to be the guy for our backfield. Against a very, very stingy packers defense against running backs. For fantasy football points, Rico Dowdle put on a show. 25 carries, 130 yards, a pair of touchdowns, two receptions for 11 yards. He played 74% of the snaps in his three starts this season. Games in which Chuba Hubbard was not available or yesterday in which Chuba took the backseat. Rico Dowdle's worst game out of those three is 28.1 fantasy.
Daniel Dopp
Shut up. 28.1.
Field Yates
He is off the charts right now is Rico, I think, going forward. Go ahead, both of you. Jumping in, wasn't he?
Daniel Dopp
Well, I thought. I felt like at some point yesterday I watched him kind of hobbling around in the backfield, but he still stayed out there. Was there anything that came from it?
Field Yates
He missed like the rest of the drive.
Daniel Dopp
Okay.
Field Yates
He looked like he almost. It almost looked. He got like a Charlie Horse or something. He just was like needing a mate.
Stefania Bell
I'm hoping because I'm running, I'm doing.
Daniel Dopp
So much right now, so.
Stefania Bell
Well, yeah, to your point. Feels Joe Bhubbird Only 1.7 fantasy points, five carries for 17 yards. I feel, I feel sad for him because he's been such a star for them in the past and it's totally the passing of the baton. But I'd say the Rico Dowdle experiment worked. I agree.
Field Yates
Yeah, it was amazing. And I think going forward we're talking about again, I think we get a little bit too caught up. I say this all the time, like, is he 7? Is he 12? Is he a player you're starting going forward? Because the Panthers running game amongst running backs that Panthers run game just totally kicks people in the chin and on top of that that's what they want to do. They are not a pass heavy team. I can't blame them with the way that they're off right now. So Rico Dowdle, if you grabbed them on waivers and held him through the Chuba Hubbard return, I really believe because we're still waiting for this guy to become the clear face of waiver wire ads. I can't recall exactly what Rico Daddle's roster percentage was to begin the season, but I'm willing to bet he is amongst I think you can make the case that Rico's been about that well, just the best waiver wire pickups. Like if he was below 50% then there's a chance that we have the best waiver wire pickup period. You know, Quinton Johnston, Danny Dimes has been in that conversation as well. But he has been awesome, awesome, awesome. What do you got Daniel?
Daniel Dopp
My guy was not a waiver wire guy but one of the main takeaways is just I want to highlight another gigantic day for Drake London. She's 9 for 116 and three touchdowns on 14 targets. 38.8 fantasy points. The big thing for me is Drake London has solidified himself as one of the alpha wide receivers at the top of this league. 10 or more targets in four straight game. Anytime that you can get double digit targets in four straight A hundred yards and a touchdown. A hundred yards and a touchdown. Not or a touchdown and a touchdown in three of his last four games. 25 or more fantasy points in all three of those games. He was wide receiver one on the week heading into Sunday Night Football. JSN going into halftime tried to make that be a thing. Then it kind of slowed down. They didn't need to score as much for the Seahawks. But Drake London is just a bad man and he is one of those we talk about set it and forget it's if you got Drake Lun on your squad, you're feeling real good.
Stefania Bell
It's the way he catches the ball too. I mean he's making his quarterback look really good because he's making decisions that not everybody else could make. But to your point, his hip looks fine. Yes.
Field Yates
By the way, Darna Mooney, one catch yesterday. Basically every wide receiver not named Drake London is not a factor for the Falcons there.
Stefania Bell
Well, I'll take your Seattle and I'll raise you because I was basically my takeaway was the Seattle offense is humming like their passing offense.
Field Yates
Yeah.
Stefania Bell
Is so legit and so exciting. You've got Sam Darnold performing at, dare I say it, an elite level.
Daniel Dopp
Yes.
Stefania Bell
And you've got JSN and pretty much anybody else who comes in who just scores a touchdown, whether it's tight end, whether it's Tory. Is it Tori Horton?
Daniel Dopp
Tori Horton, yeah.
Stefania Bell
Yeah. You know, Colorado State. I was worried about him because of the injury issues when he was drafted. So far it's just a chance to blow up. But jsn, to me, my takeaway thing is out for anyone who's not Sam Darnold as a quarterback. Is JSN the only starter that you have for fantasy purposes? Consistently, the backfield is worth nothing to me.
Field Yates
Nothing.
Stefania Bell
Nothing at all. They cancel each other out. It's like negative math and everybody else just comes in to get a touchdown. Wherever you throw that dart, that A.J.
Field Yates
Barner rushing touchdown last night. Why not? Right? Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
I think the running backs so he's the only guy. That is a must start. To me the running backs are a gosh, if I have to start them.
Field Yates
When they're not have anyone else, that's.
Daniel Dopp
How I play them.
Field Yates
But yes, it's Sam Darnold is sort of knocking on that territory.
Daniel Dopp
Tori Horton, if you're in a 16 team league field, Yates is not a bad option.
Field Yates
I know he really isn't. He was the long shot yesterday on fantasy football and I was sweating because.
Stefania Bell
She had al it helped. I mean Cooper cup is not having those games anymore. He just was not available.
Field Yates
Yeah, that was. That was the reason for the pick was that Cooper Cup's 18 to 20% target share was vacated, which opened up the door for Torrey Horton who has been a star for them since the beginning of the preseason. My next decoy and Stefania talked about it as well already. Jonathan Taylor specifically. But the Colts offense finally came back down to earth. I'll be curious to see what the narrative around Daniel Jones is this morning. I haven't watched too much of the morning programming, but he had three picks yesterday. He had a game that reminded us too much of the Giants days for Danny Dimes. Tyler Warren had just 26 receiving yards. Both Alec Pierce and Michael Pittman Jr. Had big, big days yesterday for the Colts receiving room. That being said, a lot of that was in garbage time or at least comeback mode against Pittsburgh. The only thing that has my attention just a little bit and I want to give a shout out to our buddy Hayden Winks from Underdog does a great job in so many ways. He's outstanding. He mentioned going into the game he Just was sort of curious what it looks like on grass for the Colts. They've played so many games. I believe yesterday was the second game. It was the second game all season playing on a grass surface. The first was against Tennessee. Tennessee in September is like Connecticut in July. It's beautiful. Everything is lush and green. Not the same as Acrisure Field in.
Stefania Bell
November, but it's had. And that field in particular has been.
Field Yates
Subject of a lot of.
Stefania Bell
A lot of discussion already this year, so.
Field Yates
And a couple more. They have more. They have more arrow. They have more games on the grass coming up. So again, not like Daniel Jones goes from like, you know, quarterback 10 to quarterback 30 if he's not playing right on turf, but just something. Again, it's, it's. We're getting to the point where the number of players that we give you takeaways on might narrow because the number of players that matters at this point of the season tends to narrow. Right. Like, we're no longer going to talk like If Marvin Harrison Jr. Has like five catches for 42 yards again tonight, like we don't have to do a big deep dive. Okay. Another ho hum day for Marvin Harrison. Like that's what he is. Right. But it's days in which stars subside that can swing the second half of your fantasy season.
Stefania Bell
If Jacoby Brissette makes Marvin Harrison look like a star.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, we will talk about it.
Field Yates
Yeah, we'll talk about that tonight. Yes, let's.
Daniel Dopp
Do you mind if I'm going to jump in real quick?
Stefania Bell
Yeah. Now go ahead.
Daniel Dopp
After big two back to back big games, Joe Flacco has finally stabilized. Chase Brown, is this your moment to finally be able to get out or do you think that you need to stay in if you've been riding the Chase Brown train? I just want to give you a couple things. 11 carries, 37 yards this week. Actually just on the ground in general this year he's been really inefficient. Offensive line has not been good. We knew that though coming into the season. That was a thing that like Joe Burrow helped mitigate for him. Because Burrow helped kept keep defenses honest. It gave Chase Brown a little bit more room. This week he had 19.2 fantasy points because of eight catches on 14 targets and 75 yards through the passing game. The week before, he had 25.2. He's been a major pass catching contributor each of the last two games against the Jets. 3 for 32 and a touchdown this week, 8 for 75 against the Bears. Like I said, a lot of that I think is coming because you have a competent quarterback under center that is able to lead this offense. It's a little bit harder now because the Cincinnati Bengals now head into a bye. So if you're going to try to move Chase Brown, it kind of sucks because you've got a bye week on tap. However, I just wanted to ask Chase.
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Field Yates
You want out on Chase Brown Right.
Daniel Dopp
Now I want out. This is why. This is the last part and this might be leading into why you are answering the question because I think I'm with you on this one. Mike's strength of schedule had Chase Brown as the third hardest schedule heading into week nine. But from week nine out it is the fourth easiest for the rest of the season. And Samaj P. Ryan got banged up with an ankle injury.
Field Yates
Yeah, no I don't want out in this business at all.
Daniel Dopp
So do you believe. So you're like it's finally materialized. I'm not panicked. I'm not going to try to sell to get out. It's like this is finally here for me and I'm going to own this.
Field Yates
I mean it has something to do with Chase Brown. He obviously has to catch the passes and run the ball, but has a lot to do with the worst defense I maybe have ever seen.
Daniel Dopp
They are awful.
Field Yates
I thought the Bengals had to go up from last year.
Stefania Bell
Watched it yesterday. There's nothing to explain.
Field Yates
It's awful.
Stefania Bell
Missing tackle. It looks like Keystone cops.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, there we go.
Stefania Bell
We're out there. We don't know what we're doing on defense. I, I agree with, you know, I. The Chase Brown point you bring up. Daniel, we talked about this in the preseason. I think some of the value when you were on the hype train for Chase Brown, people were worried about would the pass catching stay at the level that it was at previously. And the answer we thought was yes, but that was because we thought it would be Joe Burrow.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Stefania Bell
And the problem was it just all fell apart when he wasn't there. And now that you're seeing involved in the passing game, I don't think there'd be any reason for that to change.
Daniel Dopp
Well, let's talk about that because I.
Field Yates
Got a little bit of a hot.
Daniel Dopp
Take and I think it might lead into a little bit of what Field's going to say. But I just want to say this. I think Joe Flacco is Joe Burrow right now. Like you talk about one to one replacement level. Let's take a look. I had, I asked our team to put together a full screen. Let's just look at the last four games that Joe Flacco has had named Joe for the Cincinnati Bengals. Because when you look at week six against the Packers, 219 and two touchdowns, 18.7 fantasy points. Then the Steelers 342 and three touchdowns for 25.9. Then the Jets 237 and three touchdowns for 24.3. And then yesterday 470 and four touchdowns for 30 points.
Stefania Bell
470 and he had an AC sprain coming in and that like he couldn't lift his arm.
Daniel Dopp
If I didn't earlier in the week that that was Joe Flacco's box score and I didn't tell you that Joe Burrow was out for the season, you'd be like, of course Joe Burrow is just slinging it right now. That's what I'm saying. Joe Flacco has helped elevate this Bengals team.
Field Yates
Yeah. Go to bed and wake up and say, thank you, Joe Flack, every day and every night. I want to state that.
Stefania Bell
Yep. Fantasy goodness for everyone.
Field Yates
Yeah. Yeah. He's. He's amazing. He's just amazing. For fantasy purposes, I think, Daniel, my response to that would be the numbers have certainly borne out a very similar.
Daniel Dopp
He's got a rushing touchdown field. Yeah.
Field Yates
He does a very similar profile to Joe Burrow. I think it's like, if one of those guys were to turn into a pumpkin in a given week, we think that the chances of that happening with Joe Burrow are a lot lower than Joe Flacco. Right. Like, if. If. And I. I don't know who they play coming out of their buy, but if it's like they play the Browns and Joe Burrow throws for, like, 122 and three interceptions, that would be a lot more surprising. Joe Burrow be a lot more surprising than Joe Flacco doing it. Right. So. But he's on the radar, Daniel. He's right there on that top 12ish radar. I mean, the guy is. The defense is so horrendous, so awful, so horrendous.
Stefania Bell
Brown had something to say about that.
Field Yates
I mean, just so horrendous. Like, I did not think it'd get worse, and it somehow got worse from last year to this year.
Daniel Dopp
Quick shout out. I want to tell you that I just got this from Bill Barnwell. Bill Barnwell said that heading into this game, they had 19 more missed tackles than any other team in the NFL. And then, of course, we all saw what happened on that Colson Loveland touchdown to end the game where it's another massive mixed tackle.
Stefania Bell
Double it up there.
Daniel Dopp
Hey, they play the Patriots week after the bottom. It's a nice defense. Nice defense.
Stefania Bell
While we're admiring the wisdom of veteran quarterbacks, I'm going to shift to a young quarterback who I think finally had the day that we were all hoping to see.
Daniel Dopp
Did he sort of. Do I want to earmuff?
Stefania Bell
Yeah. Some sort. No. Yes, you do. But here's the thing. I think for me, I. I just kept hearing all this talk leading up to this week of, is J.J. mcCarthy. Was it a mistake to get rid of Sam Darnold? Because look how Sam Darnold's playing and they don't know what they have with J.J. mcCarthy. And was this an error? I think where I am right now and the sample size is three games. Three games. That's all we have with him. So it's too soon to judge. That's the main takeaway as far as where JJ McCarthy's status is. But what I appreciate is that Kevin O' Connell to me proves once again that he knows what he's doing with mentoring quarterbacks and he adjusts that for who he's dealing with. J.J. mcCarthy did not miss too much time. J.J. mcCarthy missed enough time to be healthy to the point where he was not thinking about his ankle. So I watched that game closely because I wanted to see how he moved. In particular, knowing he had a right high ankle sprain. Everything to the left where you are pivoting, rotating, looking to the left to throw is going to be harder. And guess where he was going a lot of the time, that direction. And there was zero hesitation, zero apprehension. He needed at least that to have the foundation for success as far as his quarterback skills. And that was the takeaway to me. Good for you, Kevin o', Connell, for sticking to your guns and giving him the best opportunity to succeed. Is he a finished product? I don't believe so, but, but I think he needed that because if he'd come back and he'd struggle or he had been limping around at all, it would. That would for sure have been a disaster for the back half of the season. Actually, I was going to say, I know Field has something else he wants to say about jj.
Field Yates
Yes. So I agree with what you said. I think for fantasy purposes right now, I'm not totally sold.
Stefania Bell
That's totally reasonable.
Field Yates
So. So hopefully it gets better. And hopefully yesterday, as I said, one of my notes was hopefully the same. The confidence was built from yesterday.
Daniel Dopp
Correct.
Field Yates
He's yet to exceed 165 passing yards in a game. Justin Jefferson was kind of saved by a touchdown yesterday. JJ completed 56% of his passes. They have now thrown in three starts with just with JJ McCarthy, 66 passes to a game.
Daniel Dopp
One of the things with this last game is it was. So he had a lot of short fields, they had a, they had a couple of turnovers, they had a couple of special teams plays. So he, even though he played really well, found the end zone three times. He was playing with a short field, which is why the yardage doesn't feel like it was there. So also that's great confidence builder for a young quarterback. Don't make me go 80 yards down the field. Give me some short fields to work with.
Stefania Bell
One of the confidence builders in that game, to me, was going to be Aaron Jones and I thought let's see if we get some short pass plays to Aaron Jones, which we did. But then Aaron Jones got hurt.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Stefania Bell
And then he left the game and then it's a different game when it's not Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason is not that. So, you know, again, some of the things that I thought, okay, this is really going to help elevate J.J. mcCarthy, that didn't exist within that game.
Field Yates
So I just, I'll put a pin in this and just say like, as far as my Justin Jefferson confidence index, it's not moved from yesterday's performance. It's the same end zone, it's the same as it was, which is like you're still starting him, but the idea that like maybe he can take a jet pack to the moon and become a 20 point per game wide receiver. Not totally there yet. Let's keep moving here though, with some other takeaways here. If, and we don't know because it's Monday, if Ramandre Stevenson misses another game on Sunday for the Patriots, I think we're treating Trayvon Henderson as like a low end RB2. He played 75% of the snapshot. That's a great number for Henderson. He rushed for 55 yards. Importantly, he had six targets. So 20 opportunities for Travion Henderson, Henderson. Yesterday Terrell Jennings scored a touchdown as their backup running back, which by the way, like he was running the football effectively as a power runner. So we'll just keep an eye on Ramon Dre's toe going into this week. If he is out, the Patriots play the Bucks next weekend. I think Henderson will be somewhere in like the 16 to 20 or 21 range because there are four teams on a buy next week, including the likes of Chase Brown and Javante Williams and Kareem Hunt, which I can mention this one quickly.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, let's do it.
Field Yates
If Isaiah Pacheco is out beyond Week 10, the Chiefs run a by next week. And Tracy Wolfson, part of the CBS broadcast yesterday, said that Andy Reid told them they expect Isaiah Pacheco back in Week 11 or close to it. But if for some reason he's not there. It's the Kareem Hunt show, right? Every week it feels like we're hearing someone buzz about, you know, Shard Smith, more opportunities, more work. No, Kareem Hunt had 81 played 81% of the snaps. That's the most for any Chiefs running back since Michael P. Ryan did it back in 2023 in a giveaway game. So if Pacheco is out. Don't be fooled. It is. Kareem Hunt is the only Chiefs running back that has value in any size league.
Daniel Dopp
I saw they brought CH back and then I watched him get like one carry and he got swallowed up. Negative three yards behind the line of scrimmage. And I was like, this isn't. It's going to be the Kareem Hunt show.
Field Yates
And Kareem Hunt scored again.
Stefania Bell
Does anyone. I just wonder if anybody starts Kareem Hunt. It's like the running back. You see the 14 teams, 12 teams.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. Deeper leagues.
Stefania Bell
Don't want to do it. Keep going to him. They keep going back to him. And there's a decent chance he falls in the.
Field Yates
Yep.
Daniel Dopp
Speaking of guys that have a decent chance of falling in the end zone, Stefania, are you a professional segue? Because that was so good for me.
Field Yates
Okay. Who?
Daniel Dopp
Jackson's darts. Excuse me? Jackson darts legs make him a continued lineup. Like another great day. 191 yards to the air, two touchdowns plus eight more carries for 56 yards and a rushing touchdown. 27.2 fantasy points. He is the Giants entire offense.
Stefania Bell
He's a one man band.
Daniel Dopp
He is everything right now. I feel like this is what we were kind of saying about Drake May last year when he was kind of like utilizing his legs a little bit for the Patriots.
Field Yates
Oh, no, no, he was not. Remember they did not.
Daniel Dopp
Sorry, they didn't want to do that. No designed runs. That's right. Well, unlike that, Jackson Dart, I think has plenty of designed runs. At least 54 rushing yards in four of his last six games, a rushing touchdown in four straight and in five of his last six he is finding the end zone with his legs week in and week out. Takes on Chicag in week week 10, which is another great matchup here for Jackson Dart. Definitely he is a lineup block man with what he's doing with his legs even though he's not throwing for a lot of yards the yardage and finding the end zone. Because they're not using either Tyrone Tracy or at least in this one they were not.
Field Yates
Let's talk about that for a minute. As yesterday there was a little bit of like Hassan Haskins, Kamani Vidal nature to it. We all think Tyrone Tracy Jr. Is going to be the guy. Turned out that Tyrone Tracy Jr. Yesterday played 25 snapshots. That was six fewer than Devin Singletary. Now they played all the running back snaps. It was just those two. So of the 56 offensive snaps that the New York Giants played, 25 went to Tyrone Tracy 31 went to Devin Singletary. And Tracy's output, five carries, 18 yards, three catches, 19 yards. A great fantasy day. Devin Singletary, eight carries, 43 yards. So more effective as a runner. Two catches for eight yards. So both players under eight fantasy points. Neither one of them would have been worth the start.
Daniel Dopp
Oh, great.
Field Yates
And but the bottom, it's so like, rather than Tyrone Tracy catapulting into like, yeah, this guy needs to be a top 20 running back consideration. We're not talking about.
Daniel Dopp
No. Devin Singletary dragged him down to his level where he's now. They're both unstartable.
Field Yates
Yeah. And so we'll see. It's only one game. They play the Bears next week, as we know, an opportunity to score some points for the Giants. But the hope that Tyrone Tracy was just going to take this backfield and run with this. It was not the case yesterday. Not as important of a takeaway. But just to mention it, the Saints offense looked about the same with Tyler Schuck as it did with Spencer Rattler. Right. They have been under 20 points scored in six of their last seven games. The biggest beneficiary yesterday was Rashid Shahid, who might not even be on the team by the time we take tape the show on Tuesday or Wednesday. Juwan Johnson found the only touchdown of the game or found the end zone for the only time for the Saints yesterday. Good job. If you started the Rams defense.
Daniel Dopp
That game was so weird because I felt like we watched Tyler Schuck play awful and then they were like, you know what we're going to do? We're just going to bring in Taysum Hill and run three straight Wildcat plays. Like, forget having a quarterback even. We don't even need one on the offense.
Field Yates
Play calling. It's a little bit out of whack right now.
Daniel Dopp
That is what Taysum Hill does. How about a couple of guys getting back on track this week? Sam Laporta and Jameson Williams. That's why we're wearing it. Well, I mentioned it here on the show this last week. I said that Sam Laporta was going to find the end zone. Had that as my best bet on fantasy football now. Yep. So that one and this is one.
Field Yates
Of the things on that after it happened yesterday.
Daniel Dopp
It was great. I was pumped. Absolutely, man. Vikings have given up four touchdowns to tight ends over the last four games. And in this one, LaPorta 6 for 97 and a touchdown, eight targets, 21.7 fantasy points, season high in receptions, receiving yards, targets and fantasy points kind of highlights how it's been a tough run for Sam Laporta over the last little bit, but this was a classic Laporta game. And then Jameson Williams also 4 for 66 and a touchdown on six targets. He's had a kind of a weird run. Excuse me, I'll say. Because six targets still isn't enough for me to change the outlook on Jameson Williams. Right. That we talked about. Johnny Morton was going to come in to be able to get like more involvement in this offense. John Morton was like, I failed you. I need to get you more involved. We just gave you the bag. I mean I love that he got in the end zone, but six targets is still only six targets. Now with Jameson Williams, six targets can be enough. He's one of the few players that can have that in his bag. And the good news is here, coming off of these two great games in Week 10, the Lions get the commanders. So that's going to be really nice for all the past catchers there.
Stefania Bell
That's right, the commanders.
Daniel Dopp
So shout out to everybody that was in that and to everyone also that sent me really nice messages on social media that put down anytime touchdown bets on Sam Laporta. So congratulations to you guys. I got one more takeaway before we move into our must talk injury. It's the 49ers. CMC is just awesome. Again, we didn't, we, we didn't mention it today but like he's, he's so good.
Stefania Bell
Feel so good that I'm not making this takeaway.
Field Yates
Yeah, that must be, it's exceptional.
Daniel Dopp
He was so good.
Stefania Bell
Now it's legit.
Daniel Dopp
28 carries, 106 yards, another touchdown plus another five catches for 67 receiving yards and another receiving touchdown for 34.3 fantasy points. Great bounce back game against the Giants. My question is not about cmc. It's about with Mac Jones under center. Since George Kittle has returned, it has not looked like the George Kittle show that I thought that it was going to returned in Week 7, played 81% of the snaps but had a goose egg with only two targets. Week eight, tough matchup. We knew that because it was the Texans, right? Four catches for 43 yards and a touchdown on only five targets, 14.3. But he got in the end zone. So you love the production there. And then this week, 4 for 32 for 6.9 fantasy points. But since his return he has two targets, five targets and four targets with Mac Jones as his quarterback. And that's not with a lot of people at the wide receiver spot. So is There any reason for concern? Do you guys think, is this a Mac Jones thing?
Field Yates
My retort would be what are you going to do? Like you're going to bench him?
Daniel Dopp
Agreed. No, no, no. There's not a bench. It's just this has been three straight weeks where we've been waiting to get a guy back that we have all consistently viewed as a top three tight end and he has not cracked five targets in any of the three games. With a depleted receiving core. I think it just.
Stefania Bell
Just using him differently. Yeah, he's a, he's a great blocker and he.
Daniel Dopp
And that's great if you got CMC.
Field Yates
On their fantasy squad.
Stefania Bell
I'm saying that like if we don't have time to go through how the 49ers are shifting people around at all these different positions because of injury, I.
Daniel Dopp
Am not saying you do anything different. I'm just saying it's unacceptable of the 49ers and we need to get more targets.
Field Yates
That's all. My last pin. The injuries are important today is how many tight ends have really been good week in and week out. You know, like Ferguson goes for a zero and he moved all the way down to like tight end four this week. Right. You know, so like if you, if you, if you, if you happen to go.
Daniel Dopp
This is not an actionable. I'm just stating it's something for people to notice. Five or fewer targets and three out.
Stefania Bell
There needs to feel like they have validation in their frustration.
Field Yates
I agree.
Stefania Bell
And if you want to be frustrated, we can talk about injury.
Daniel Dopp
Oh my gosh.
Stefania Bell
It always is the frustration topic of the year.
Daniel Dopp
But there was one major narrative that I feel like which is why is he playing the football game?
Stefania Bell
Well, that's not for me to answer. I will just stick with the injury. And you are talking of course about Jaden Daniels, the Commanders star young face, the franchise quarterback who was coming off of a hamstring injury. And we were happy to see how well he was moving. But late in the game just had his left arm. So it's his non throwing arm kind of got pinned behind him as he went to the ground. It just an awkward landing. This is usually how this happens. Dislocated his left elbow. If you saw it. It's one of those things, you know, right away we talk about what a dislocation is. It's when the bones move out of position relative to one another. So when that happens, the joint now doesn't look like the joint we saw with Tyree Kill's knee and that ends up the legs facing the wrong way. Same with Cam Scatter Boo and the ankle and the foot's facing the wrong way. Well Jaden Daniel's elbow was facing the wrong way. Was put in an immobilizer and escorted off the field by the medical staff. Very, very painful injury. Just awful. And now becomes the the what next. And we don't have enough detail to say this. These are all the steps of how the injury progression is. But typically with these if it was open and broke through the skin anytime you have open wound do you have surgery right away like Cam Scatter boot did? Haven't heard about that yet. Don't think it did. But the question becomes what's damage? Do you have a fracture? Do you have ligament damage most likely with that that vigorous of a dislocation damage to the capsule. What needs to be repaired? Do you treat it conservatively? These are all the things going you know that they're evaluating right now that they know that we don't y bottom line when you have a dislocation where you don't need to have a surgery on it it might be a couple of months and then you can start to work back to football activity.
Daniel Dopp
Yep.
Stefania Bell
That's the that's the lower side. And if that's the case that would be end of season for the Commanders. They're not looking at the playoffs. Yeah. I don't think you're looking at Jaden Daniels coming back is the bottom line.
Field Yates
We'll dive more into what the offense looks like with Marcus Mario probably for the rest of season starting this week.
Daniel Dopp
Doesn't feel great unfortunately. Stefania, if you have him on your roster when you're we're getting ahead to waiver wires. One of the things he's unfortunately droppable.
Field Yates
Yes.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. All right. All right. Let's keep moving ahead.
Stefania Bell
Yeah. So he wasn't the old only quarterback who left the game early yesterday. C.J. stroud had just an ugly hit back of his head when he was trying to slide and defender came in across the top and he his head snapped and hit the ground left concussion protocol. So C.J. stroud is out. You know the rules after this we don't have a time frame. You wait and see what happens. Another season ending injury unfortunately to somebody we just talked about having the the maybe the best game of his career last week. Tucker Craft, the tight end for the Green Bay packers just just so sad. Cli weird kind of a blocking play collision. I think it injured his right knee. Ruled out for good in the fourth quarter. But when they say they suspect acl, this is one of those where the manual testing is so sensitive that if they believe that's what it is, it's almost 100% the case that that's what it is. So confirmation is his confirmation for the ACL and you find out if anything else was injured in the process. We should hear more about that today. And then Pukinakua, we were so happy to have him back from the ankle sprain. He ends up leaving the game with a chest injury. Now Sean McVeigh said afterward the answering the question, he they got his ribs. They got his ribs. But he was also saying it in the spirit of somebody who just won a big game who is happy. It was like, yeah, Puka could have come back. But we were like, we're ahead. We just got you back from an injury. We don't need to do this. All of the conversation make you think that he will be available next week. So even though he maybe if you were to look at the stat lines and see something you thought what happened? He left with an injury. This one sounds like it's not going to keep him out.
Field Yates
Thank goodness.
Daniel Dopp
I love that the Rams did that because not only did Puka have a very reasonable day as it was, but because there was no Puka, Nukua Devonte Adams had a pretty reasonable day as well. So thank you for keeping our guy healthy for the long term as well as being able to reward the other guy on the other side. Well, then let's talk about a couple of studs and does really quickly to close this out. Stefania will continue to monitor those injuries, especially as we get into waiver wire tomorrow. So let's start at the top. T. Higgins. T. Higgins turned in his Jamar Chase performance. I feel like he's good for for like probably three or four of these. Yeah. Every year he has like a couple seven catches for 121 yards, two touchdowns on nine targets, 33.1 fantasy points. He was kind of the odd man out the last couple weeks when Jamar chase had over 40 targets over the last two weeks. But this week he finally got back on track. So he crushed it.
Field Yates
Justin Herbert was great for the Chargers. They win this game close against the Titans, but Herbert was amazing with 250 passing yards and two touchdowns. But more importantly nearly 60 rushing yards and a rushing touchdown good for 27.7 fantasy.
Daniel Dopp
He has 30 or more rushing yards in six of his nine games this year. Justin Herbert does yeah.
Field Yates
Joe Alt hurt again not hitting help them.
Daniel Dopp
That sucks.
Stefania Bell
When that one killed me, you know, Roma dun, I was like, I was just looking. I was like, I thought I had pulled up Roma Dunze stats. I'm like, no, no, no, that's not in the stud column, Stefania. It's. It's his teammate. Well, the media.
Daniel Dopp
There you go.
Stefania Bell
You know what? Of all people, I know it's after pronunciation, but I was laughing at my own mistake. Okay, okay. Well, he deserves more from me for going 6 for 58 with a touchdown. 17.8 fantasy points. I don't know. He. To me, he's one of those guys. It was like a dart throw in your lineup and you just don't know what you're going to get from him on any given day. But if you were somebody who was struggling with a buy or needed a replacement, he more was more than serviceable.
Daniel Dopp
Yes, he was. And Rashid Rice was also more than serviceable. Four catches. ADR found the end zone on a rushing play in which he was like a wildcat quarterback.
Field Yates
Second time they've run that play in back to back weeks.
Daniel Dopp
18.6 fantasy points. He's at all three games over 18 fantasy points field. He is crushing and cruising as a wide receiver. 1.
Field Yates
Right now we probably need to spend more time talking about Matthew Stafford, the Rams quarterback. But his receiver, Devonte Adams, five for 60 and two touchdowns. He was great yesterday. You just mentioned that Kyron Williams was also back to his usual self.
Stefania Bell
So good.
Field Yates
Kyron found the end zone late in this game. 25 for 114 and a touchdown. But put down Matthew Stafford as a name to discuss more. He has some of that Joe Flacco to him.
Daniel Dopp
He does it.
Field Yates
No running, but these guys are absolutely piercing defenses right now. Pop Douglas, also great for the Patriots. Four catches for 100 yards and a touchdown.
Stefania Bell
In the house.
Daniel Dopp
I was going to say let's get one. Let's get one. Princeton in here.
Stefania Bell
I know. Listen, Princeton. Princeton football not having a great year, but one of their alums showed up yesterday. Five for 66 and a touchdown receiving. Andrew Yoshavas in the end zone. We love to see it.
Daniel Dopp
Love that. Love getting that from him. All right, couple duds here. Unfortunately, DK Metcalf, another game where it just feels like not a lot of target share right now. Not getting a lot of volume. And if you don't get in the end zone. Exactly. That's where you're at with dk.
Field Yates
We saw less of Kamani Vidali yesterday than I was expecting. He's been amazing for two of the four games. He has started in place of Amari and Hampton, but yesterday had three fantasy points, 12 carries for 30 yards and zero, nada in the passing game. We actually saw Jarrett Patterson rush for 32 yards. So not a great day. The day there for the doll. We have heard zilch, zero, nada on Amarian Hampton. So I don't think he's coming back this week, but yeah, maybe we'll see him at some point later this season.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, let's hope.
Stefania Bell
Sticking with the same team. Keenan Allen, who we've come to just been reliable.
Field Yates
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Stefania Bell
You know, Mr. Third down, only two catches for 41 yards for Keenan Allen.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. And in this last one that we have here, unfortunately was not great against the Rams, we knew it was a tough matchup, but 3 for 57 for Chris Olave. What are you supposed to do with Tyler Schuck as your quarterback? Like, anything that we got to hope for.
Field Yates
Two things. If you, if you have Chris Olavi is like, you know, more experience. Shucks played one NFL game.
Daniel Dopp
Correct.
Field Yates
You hope that he improved a little bit week in and week out. And then I think Rashid Shahid could legitimately be moved by tomorrow, which would only mean more opportunity for other pass catchers. Chris Olave would step on up. Alvin Camara, just if you're still starting him, like, we got to have a conversation. We've been trying to warn you now for I don't even know how many weeks.
Daniel Dopp
But it has been tough.
Field Yates
A different version of the player that we for a long time were accustomed to.
Daniel Dopp
Trade deadline officially ends at Tuesday at 4pm okay. So that's where we will have some good stuff. That means we're going to have to.
Stefania Bell
Do a show before our waiver wire pickups.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, exactly.
Field Yates
Yeah. You know, with the NFL, you always kind of temper at expectations. We'll be cool. It'd be cool.
Stefania Bell
It's not the NBA. We don't get like all the movement. And especially right now, I don't think there's that much. Very exciting.
Field Yates
Yeah, I agree. I think the biggest trade over the next 30 hours maybe took place this morning, which was Jaylen Phillips to the Eagles. But let's wrap things up with Monday Night Football.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah.
Field Yates
You mentioned the Cowboys playing host to the Cardinals.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah. How about a not hot take with this one? I think that many people believe Jacoby Brissette would just be better as the starting quarterback of this Arizona Cardinals. For everyone involved, the Cardinals might believe it.
Field Yates
And that's my big thing that I am watching tonight is can Jacoby Brissette take advantage of an off the charts matchup. His projection is actually higher than Dak Prescott's. That's how good of a matchup it is for Jacoby, who has been playing pretty well by the way through for 340 yards in one of his starts. And there's a chance. I know, I know. Kyler Murray still listen as questionable. This one also doesn't totally pass the smell test of like, it does not. Like it's the foot May not be the only reason why Jacoby Brissette is start for Kyler Murray.
Daniel Dopp
Okay. Okay.
Field Yates
Yeah.
Stefania Bell
I mean, think about it. He's going back home, Texas, everybody there. And he's not playing.
Daniel Dopp
And he's not playing.
Stefania Bell
Yeah. I mean.
Daniel Dopp
Well, here's the thing about Kyler Murray has yet to hit 225 passing yards this year. Jacobi Brissette has played two games. He has 275 and 320 in both of his starts. Kyler has two passing touchdowns in two of his five games this year. Again, Jacobe Brissette has only played two games and has multiple passing touchdowns in both. It like this offense, it's not just the eye test, like it's the box score. It's everything you look at it. The offense just moves better with Jacoby Brissette under center. Kyler has not been a good passer for this team.
Field Yates
And they're two and five and like.
Daniel Dopp
And it bears out. You can see it.
Field Yates
You need like, you need to win games. Like, this is a franchise that I think finds itself potentially at a crossroads this offseason.
Daniel Dopp
I do want to see if Bam Knight can do some things because if you took a shot on the waiver wire this week and now you're waiting till Monday Night Football, like, this is your chance to see the guy that you added off of waivers and put directly in your starting lineup up. We may only get one week, maybe two, because this next week Trey Benson eligible to come off of ir. We haven't heard that he's going to, but he is in that window to be able to do it. So something to monitor, but I'm interested to see how he plays. Anything else for the Cardinals or are we looking? Now, let's talk about Cowboys.
Stefania Bell
I want to say how Marvin Harrison Jr. Looks with Jacoby Brissette this week. I mean, this is the week. Let's do it right. And supposedly, you know, I told you guys that story that they were going to. They were sticking around and practicing afterwards. He was working with Jacoby Brissette So maybe the chemistry that he never developed with Kyler is actually there with Jacoby Brissette. I mean, he could be like the Joe Flacco unlocking everyone, the entire Bengals offense. Maybe Jacoby Brissette is what Marvin Harrison Jr. Needed.
Field Yates
Yeah. And I think, Stefania, I fear you may have buried the lead here because you need Jake Ferguson to score under 17 fantasy points to beat Mike Clay in the FF Now League.
Daniel Dopp
Whoa.
Stefania Bell
Oh. I didn't realize I was even close. Close.
Field Yates
Well, you have a good team. So Mike had a good week, so he's. He's keeping it.
Stefania Bell
But I mean, I didn't think I would be within like.
Field Yates
So, Jake, he has Jay Ferguson. And you're up, 17.
Stefania Bell
I'm up?
Field Yates
Yes.
Stefania Bell
Look at that one. I assumed he beat me.
Daniel Dopp
Brock Bowers and Christian McCaffrey, they know, but my.
Stefania Bell
My Clay was so confident. He's like, I beat that team. It's so lousy. Oh.
Field Yates
Oh.
Stefania Bell
Jake Ferguson, I need you to come back and have. Have 16 points.
Daniel Dopp
Well, here's the deal, but hold on now, because I need Jake Ferguson to outscore Trey McBride in order to win in our fantasy Focus show league. So I also need a big game from Jake Ferguson. So we're trying to thread the needle where I get what I need. I. He needs 12 more fantasy points, which.
Field Yates
Is going to be 3.7.
Daniel Dopp
Yes.
Field Yates
Jake Ferguson gets six. Yes. And then you both win.
Daniel Dopp
Yes. I win. And Stefania wins and Mike loses.
Field Yates
Yes.
Daniel Dopp
We solved America.
Field Yates
America wins.
Daniel Dopp
Got it.
Stefania Bell
Ferguson.
Field Yates
I kind of need a. I need a monster. Jacoby Brissette, George Pickens, Ferguson. Night two.
Daniel Dopp
Yeah, why don't we just make it a shootout?
Stefania Bell
Jacobe and George.
Field Yates
Okay, that's fine.
Daniel Dopp
There you go. There you go.
Field Yates
It's possible. It's a six point passing touchdown with big bonuses, so he could throw for 352 touchdowns. And I might have a really good.
Stefania Bell
Well, there you go.
Field Yates
Yeah.
Stefania Bell
So we've worked it out, the three.
Daniel Dopp
Of us with Jacoby Brissette under center. I feel a lot better with his offense. Do you feel good enough to take the Cardinals in this matchup?
Field Yates
Cowboys here.
Daniel Dopp
Okay.
Field Yates
Cowboys at home are an absolute offensive juggernaut.
Stefania Bell
I am going to stick with the Cowboys.
Daniel Dopp
Dallas Cowboys.
Stefania Bell
Yeah.
Daniel Dopp
Okay. All right. I'll take the Dallas Cowboys as well at home. Sorry, guys. All right, that's gonna do it for us today. Today's show was presented by Little Caesars. Make sure you come back and have fun with us tomorrow for the waiver wire. Have fun watching Monday Night Football. Don't forget to love yourself and be kind to each other. You deserve to it. We'll see you guys tomorrow.
Field Yates
Later.
Stefania Bell
I could beat my clay.
Hosts: Field Yates, Stefania Bell, Daniel Dopp
Guest mentions: Mike Clay
Date: November 3, 2025
Episode Focus: Week 9 NFL fantasy football recap—breaking down monster performances, surprise duds, injury news, waiver trends, and a quick lookahead to Monday Night Football.
This episode dives deep into the highs and lows of Week 9 in fantasy football, with the ESPN fantasy crew dissecting record-setting individual performances, puzzling disappointments, evolving backfields, crucial injury updates, and lineup advice for managers. The conversation balances statistical breakdowns, passionate debate, and plenty of humor.
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[03:04] Stefania Bell
[06:16] Field Yates
[09:28] Daniel Dopp
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[18:11] Stefania Bell
[59:14] Field Yates, Daniel Dopp, Stefania Bell
This episode delivers a play-by-play of fantasy Week 9’s landmarks, from all-time tight end records, to the agony of star-turned-dud running backs, RB committee chaos, QB controversies, and injury despair. The hosts offer sharp perspective (and commiseration) for managers navigating the unpredictable NFL fantasy grind while teeing up clear expectations for the coming week.
For fantasy managers, this recap provides not just a rundown of winners and losers, but real-time strategic guidance on emerging players, shifting usage trends, and actionable waiver or injury pivots—plus plenty of entertaining banter to ease your fantasy heartbreaks.
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