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Episode Title: WR Upgrades & Downgrades You NEED to Know NOW 🚨
Date: October 30, 2025
Hosts: Daniel Dopp, Field Yates, Mike Clay
Podcast: Fantasy Focus Football (ESPN)

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Overview

This episode features Field Yates, Daniel Dopp, and Mike Clay as they break down critical wide receiver upgrades and downgrades heading into NFL Week 9. They also highlight impactful quarterback and running back scenarios, address emerging fantasy trends, and provide an in-depth look at wide receiver/cornerback matchups via Mike Clay’s Shadow Report. The conversation hops between actionable fantasy advice, personal anecdotes, and some fun, lighthearted moments, making it both insightful and entertaining.

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Key Discussions & Insights

1. Justin Jefferson's Outlook with J.J. McCarthy

[02:48–05:33]

• Jefferson is always a lineup lock, but there are concerns his current production does not match his top-5 draft investment.
• In two games with McCarthy:
  • 4 catches, 44 yds, 1 TD
  • 3 catches, 81 yds (50-yd play), no TD
  • Fantasy points: 14.4 & 11.1
• Field: “Can J.J. McCarthy find some Justin Jefferson? To me, as a big storyline on Sunday...” [04:36]
• Detroit matchup should yield volume (Lions strong vs. run, banged-up corners).
• Mike projects him for 18 points (not elite, but still WR1 territory).
• Mike: “He’s doing enough that he’s still a top 10 option... But you’re right, he’s not paying off his value right now.” [05:05]

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2. Chase Brown and the Bengals’ Backfield

[07:55–10:45]

• Brown and Samaj P. Ryan are in a near-even split for snaps and touches.
• Brown’s usage and fantasy production improved with Joe Flacco at QB.
• Tough to trust unless Flacco plays; otherwise, consider Brown more of a flex.
• Daniel: “If it’s Jake Browning, I don’t think that you can play Chase Brown for me.” [09:24]
• Great matchup vs. Chicago, making him a mid-RB2 (RB17 in Mike’s ranks).
• Mike: “If [Flacco] plays, I’ll feel more confident.” [10:43]

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3. Tight End Check-In: Brock Bowers & Arande Gadsden

[10:45–13:40]
Brock Bowers:

• Returning from injury, immediate start despite Raiders' offensive struggles.
• Mike has him top 5 at TE for the week.
• Daniel and Field list other TEs for consideration: Trey McBride, George Kittle, Tyler Warren, Jake Ferguson.
• Daniel: “...we are finally expecting to see him back...Which means definitively...we are starting him in fantasy football.” [11:13]

Arande Gadsden:

• Emerging as a must-start with high route shares, targets, and yardage.
• Three-week surge: 22 catches, 309 yds, 2 TDs; essentially a WR in a TE’s body.
• Field: “We have been desperate for tight end help all season and Arande Gadsden has arrived.” [15:21]

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4. Chargers WR Situation: Quinton Johnston & Jake Ferguson

[15:32–22:56]

• Quinton Johnston’s targets and fantasy output have plummeted after a hot start (9.3 targets & 19.9 pts/gm over the first 4, 10 targets & 17.9 pts last 3).
• Trey Harris’s presence reduced Johnston’s routes; only viable as a “third” receiving option.
• Mike: “He’s third in line among Chargers receivers...but still startable as a FLEX.” [21:53]
• Jake Ferguson, coming off a zero, is still a volume-driven TE in a strong offense (leads TEs with 51 catches).
• Mike: “He leads all tight ends with 51 catches. He’s second in touchdowns and end zone targets this season.” [22:53]

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5. Arizona RB Situation: Bam Knight & Trey Benson

[23:12–26:14]

• Bam Knight is a one-week rental as RB1 with Michael Carter re-signed to the practice squad and Trey Benson (waivers stash!) nearing return.
• Scores between 9.5–12.4, split usage (never more than 50% of snaps).
• Daniel: “Bam Knight, for me, checks in as running back 18. He is a low-end RB2, high-end flex option for you.” [25:16]

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6. Quarterback Confidence Meter: Caleb Williams & Kyler Murray

[26:20–33:53]
Caleb Williams:

• Only 2 passing TDs in last 4 games, but Bengals are a top-five matchup for QBs.
• Field: (Regarding the emotional strain of starting him in fantasy): “This is about your mental wellness going forward.” [05:33]
• Safe, low floor in a juicy spot.
• Mike: “I’ll take the matchup.” [28:40]

Kyler Murray:

• QB21 YTD, but Dallas matchup vaults him to QB10 this week despite never topping 18.3 pts outside week 1.
• Daniel: “...has not finished as a top 13 quarterback in any other game this season.” [31:30]
• Both QBs hard to trust emotionally but must consider due to matchup.

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7. Alvin Kamara & RB2-tier Conundrums

[34:27–36:51]

• Kamara's usage, yardage, and targets have nosedived, especially in the passing game (career-low 11% target share).
• Facing tough Rams D (only McCaffrey >15 pts vs. Rams RBs).
• Mike: “Honestly, I could have ranked him lower than that. The only reason he's at 20 is because...there's not a lot of good options...” [35:42]

Other RB Positives:

• Tyron Tracy (Giants) positioned for bell-cow opportunity (mid-RB2, RB15 in Mike’s ranks).
• Field: “The Niners have actually allowed a running back to reach 15 or more fantasy points in each of the last five games.” [37:02]

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Mike Clay’s Playbook: Shadow Report & Matchups

[41:28–49:29]

Upgrades

• Chargers WRs (Quentin Johnston, Keenan Allen, Lad McConkey): Titans corners are decimated; allowed highest catch rate & 2nd-highest yards/target.
• Michael Pittman Jr./Colts WRs: Steelers giving up most catches & yards to WRs.
• Travis Hunter (BUF): Raiders a favorable WR matchup; potential to be “the guy” in offense.
• Marvin Harrison Jr.: Cowboys pass D has collapsed; 15 TDs allowed to WRs, highest yards/target.

Downgrades

• Rome Odunze (Bears): Projected DJ Turner shadow; Turner crushes top WRs (avg. 9.5 pts/gm allowed in coverage).
• Drake London (ATL): May face Christian Gonzalez shadow (elite coverage in limited action).
• Courtland Sutton (DEN): Will likely see Derek Stingley Jr. (elite shadow corner).
• Troy Franklin (DEN): Tough matchup with Houston (lowest catch %, only 3 TDs to WRs).
• Nico Collins (HOU): Denver’s elite passing D – zero WRs >20 pts vs. them all year.

Mike: "The Titans have allowed 9.7 yards per target that is second highest and a, a 75% catch rate that is highest to wide receivers this season. Their top corner, Legarius need is on IR and their top slot corner, Roger McCurry was traded to the Rams..." [41:33]

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Field on Fantasy Realities:
  "Let's be clear. This is not about whether you should start or sit the player anymore. This is about your mental wellness going forward." [05:33]

• Daniel's Commitment to Kamara:
  “Do you think there’s any reason in like grabbing [Devin Neal] just in case Alvin Kamara gets traded?”
  Mike: "He basically said he'll retire if he gets traded. Right. So that's not going to happen." [36:08]

• Mike’s Playbook on Cornerbacks:
  "Travis Hunter against the Raiders. I mentioned this yesterday. Raiders fourth most catches and fantasy points, the seventh most yards and nine touchdowns already to wide receivers." [43:10]

• On Emotional Fantasy Decisions:
  Daniel: "This is an emotional situation." [32:20] (re: trusting Kyler Murray again)

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Notable Timestamps

• 02:48–05:33: Justin Jefferson’s weekly outlook and the McCarthy effect
• 07:55–10:45: Chase Brown’s RB2 viability with/without Joe Flacco
• 10:45–13:40: TE check: Brock Bowers’ return, Arande Gadsden’s emergence
• 15:32–22:56: Chargers WR puzzle, Ferguson’s floor after a zero
• 23:12–26:14: Bam Knight, Trey Benson, and the Arizona RB landscape
• 26:20–33:53: Caleb Williams & Kyler Murray – how much trust is too much?
• 34:27–36:51: Is Kamara a lineup lock anymore?
• 41:28–49:29: WR/CB Shadow Report: Must-upgrade/downgrade matchups for Week 9

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Playful Segments & Side Notes

• Fantasy ‘Long Shots’ challenge:

  • Ongoing season-long competition finding sub-1% rostered players to score TDs. Hosts have hit several in recent weeks (moments at [54:27–56:34]).
  • Memorable picks: Tyquan Thornton, Xavier Hutchinson, Tez Johnson.
  • Field: “Tip of the cap to you for getting it this week. Yeah, that's right.” [56:27]

• Community Q&A Takeaways:

  • Consensus: Upgrade from Jamar/Flacco to JSN/Kyler Murray if you can [63:06].
  • Unusual Board Bet: Tucker Kraft (TE) vs. Marvin Harrison Jr. (WR) in fantasy production [63:45].
  • Awareness on accessible graphics for color-blind fans (shout-out to Mike) [65:17].

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Tone & Banter

• Warm, casual, and witty interplay among the hosts.
• Open about their own fantasy teams and anxieties (e.g., Field’s “dog crap team” story [06:09]).
• They call each other out for emotional reactions—always with a sense of fun.
• Occasional jokes about fashion (Mike’s polo and haircut [00:55–01:38]), sports trivia, and playful digs at each other’s teams.

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Final Takeaways

Use these insights for critical WR/TE start/sit decisions, leverage the deep-dive matchup analysis, and keep an eye on RB situations in flux. The hosts deliver actionable advice while reminding listeners that sometimes, you just have to roll with your stars—and have a laugh when fantasy tilts you to the edge.

Transcript

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[A]

What I take. I'm glad you said something because you came in here and what the first thing you said was. Oh, field, I love your.

[B]

I mean, field does have a good looking like jacket, you know, button up right now.

[A]

I'm always playing for a second. I realize that, but I didn't even realize bring a collar to the table today, I get nothing.

[C]

I was saving it for the show. I love that knitted pole you're rocking. I agree. Looks excellent.

[A]

I appreciate that. I certainly didn't pick it out, but.

[C]

I'm wearing it well on two things. On top of the fact it looks very sharp.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

It also shows off the muscles.

[B]

It does.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. It is tight around the arms. It makes it look like I've been working out religiously. Also not like I used to. I'm slacking a little bit. It's the season, guys.

[B]

We don't have time to work.

[A]

This is how I work out in season. That's right.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It does give me a little mess.

[C]

What? Mike, New haircut.

[A]

New haircut too, guys. Yeah.

[C]

Whoa.

[B]

New you, Mike Clay.

[A]

Hey, if I get 15 minutes free during the season. Right to the haircut.

[B]

That's where it's at. Is it true that you told your girlfriend you're not willing to take the relationship to the next level unless she changes her name legally to Kelly Green? Is that true? I heard that on the Internet on Zhonga.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

On Zanga.

[B]

Yeah, I heard that. Yeah. It was a rumor that was going on. No, that's not true. It just happens to work out that Kelly Green, your favorite color is also like a full first and last name. That's not. No, nothing at all.

[A]

I thought there was a reference I was missing, so I had to process that.

[B]

No, I was just curious. I just had no idea. All right, we got a lot on today's show. We're diving into our week nine Preview Part one We got the real deal. We're going to dive into a little bit later today. Mike, your playbook comes out today like it does every Thursday, which means we are going to dive into the wide receiver cornerback matchups as we do and give out a long shot. But first and foremost, shout out to our friends over at Trophy Smack. Head on over to trophy smack.com use the promo code focus10 for 10% off your order over at trophy smack.com let's dive into our week nine preview part one. We each brought three different topics to the table. Field Minister Yates Yeah, I'm going to start with you.

[C]

All right, let's do it. And so we talked about this a little bit yesterday, but let's just hammer it home once again. Not everything in fantasy football that we discuss, at least here on Fantasy Focus, is like, hey, this guy's a fringe player. I say you start him. Mike says you sit him. Like sometimes it's just talking about players that you are going to start and wondering whether the outlook can be better than it has been or might be worse than it has been. Right. Jalen Warren last week against the packers and James Hook against the Falcons a couple of weeks ago. Quinn John Judkins against the Patriots. So Justin Jefferson fits into the category of we're not telling you to start or sit Justin Jefferson. You're always starting Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson, he's amazing. He was your first round pick, most likely. But let's talk about what the return of JJ McCarthy might mean for Justin Jefferson. We're dealing with two really small sample sizes, but I think anybody who rosters Jefferson probably preferred Justin Jefferson with Carson Wentz as opposed to J.J. mcCarthy. They played two games together. Did Jefferson and McCarthy. Here were Justin Jefferson, stat lines, four catches, 44 yards and a touchdown. A lot of that came in the fourth quarter of week one.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And then three catches for 81 yards. There was a 50 yard play in that game. That was week two against the Falcons. No touchdowns in that game. So you're talking about a player who in two starts with JJ McCarthy, 14.4 and 11.1 fantasy points.

[B]

That sounds great. Sign me up for that.

[C]

Truth be told, and it's not, it's by far, it's not close to the biggest flop of the first round. There have been other players that have flopped harder, not just in the first round, but some of the blue chippers. And it's not just on Jefferson's fault. The guy is otherworldly. But for a guy that went the first Five picks.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

The fact that he has not yet been better than wide receiver 8 this season is disappointing, to be very, very clear. So can JJ McCarthy find some confidence? Can JJ McCarthy find some Justin Jefferson? To me, as a big storyline on Sunday, who do they play against?

[B]

The Detroit Lions.

[C]

So this seems like a matchup that would suggest they could for one of two reasons. One, the Lions are a very good run defense. Two, the Lions score so many points and they're still pretty banged up at corner that it's going to be an issue covering one of the best receivers in the NFL.

[B]

Agreed.

[A]

Well said. I would, you know, look, I have him projected for 18 points. He's averaging 15 so far this season. Yeah, but you know, top guys like JSN, projected for 25.

[C]

Jamaica, I saw that and he made me cackle.

[A]

Yeah, Puka for 22. I mean, he's not at that level right now. There's clearly a drop off. So we're, you know, generally in perfect conditions. Let's say last year with Sam Darnold, we might be projecting him for 23 or 22 in this matchup. So that's a, you know, a four or five point difference. So we are baking that into the projection. But at the same time, he's doing enough that he's still a top 10 option. So again, like you said, he's a lineup lock. It doesn't matter if we rank him first or tenth. You got to start this guy. But you're right, you're not. It's. He's not paying off his value right now.

[C]

Let's be clear. This is not about whether you should start or sit the player anymore. This is about your mental wellness going forward.

[A]

Correct? Yes.

[B]

Right.

[C]

This is about, do I wake up on Monday morning and like, yes, I got 25. I'll peel the curtain back one more time on this. I think I've talked about this league previously, but I'm in a league where we have a loser punishment every single week. We spin the wheel. Hey, Brooks, why don't you pay off your freaking punishment? He's like four weeks late.

[A]

I'm paying off.

[C]

Oh, my gosh, Brooks, we're thinking about. We're thinking about not even just relegation. We're thinking about expelling him from the friend group. Wow, it's getting bad when you get.

[B]

Uninvited from the group text, you know, it's really.

[C]

Yeah, it's not good.

[B]

That's not good.

[C]

Anyways, I have just an absolutely dog crap team because what I did was I just Chased the floor early in the draft. So I took Jefferson.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Brock Bowers and Josh Allen. My first three picks. Thinking like, I've got every week probably between 65 and 75 points coming my way when those three are not on their buy. Yep.

[B]

Not so fast, my friend.

[C]

That was not the case as all three of them, obviously Bowers because of injury, but all three of them have underwhelmed.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Like it's just a fact. So somehow I've avoided the loser punishment. Like, I've still managed to be like the second slowest bear as opposed to the slowest bear in this race. No, I mean, my team still sucks. But anyways, we need some Justin Jefferson to make me continue. I don't want to have to do a beer mile or chug a hot.

[B]

Sauce shot or any of those things. Yeah, no, thank you.

[C]

Early.

[B]

I really, I'm a little bit disappointed because coming into the season field, one of the things. And I have said this, you know that this is a thing that I say, but I have been on the train that Justin Jefferson has always been and will always be quarterback agnostic. And to start the season, it didn't really work out that way like it had in seasons past.

[C]

So, yeah, he needs a quarterback that's not considered good when he gets there.

[B]

Yes. Right.

[A]

It's yes.

[B]

I guess give me Nick Mullins again, like.

[C]

But it's like, you know, Cousins, a fourth round pick who even when he signed with Minnesota, it was like, this guy's a little bit of a stats merchant in some people's eyes. Right. Kirk was always fighting an uphill battle. Sam Darnold, it was like, yeah, there we go again. Another team says Sam Darnold can be fixed. Turns out he can be.

[B]

Turns out.

[C]

J.J. mcCarthy, 10th overall pick. It's like, no, he's too good at coming into the inner.

[A]

Maybe he'll make a leap now that he's back from the injury. But you know, you see it on the screen here. Projection. 10 targets. That's what we need from Jason. Throw him the football 10 times, he would have six or seven targets. We need 10 plus targets for Jefferson and we'll be happy.

[C]

What do you got?

[A]

All right, first one for me is a player that I believe Daniel spoke about yesterday, Chase Brown, and what the outlook is right now for the Bengals backfield. Cause there's some minuses and some pluses there are with Chase Brown's outlook right now. Last week, 12 carries and three targets and 31 snaps. But Samaj P. Ryan, guys right behind nine carries and one target on 25 snaps. A difference of just six snaps. And that's a trend now going back three weeks. On the plus side, he's been a lot better with Joe Flacco under center. A hundred plus yards straight. That's true. Two touchdowns, 25.5 fantasy points just last week. But he only has. He's only been over 13.1 fantasy points one time this season. That was the time he has done it and that includes the week before when he had over 100 yards. He still didn't get past 13.1. So I'm not willing to go all in on him just yet, especially as they're rolling back his usage. They are playing Chicago, which helps. It's a great matchup. They've had eight touchdowns, 5.2 yards per carry and a league high 93% catch rate to running back so far this season. So it should be more efficient day than usual for Chase Brown if Joe Flacco is in there.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Yeah, getting to that. And it's all, it's all systems go. I have chase Brown at RB17.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So I'm going to view him as a mid to back end RB2 for this week and hope this trend up continues. However, if Joe Flack goes out, we go back to Jake Browning. Obviously things were not as good for this offense back then and we'll have to downgrade him a little bit. But I think either way, worst case scenario for this week, he's a flex option.

[B]

Yeah, I want to. You talked about not feeling. Did you use the word confidence? You're not.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I use that word, but that would be fair. I don't know if I'm there yet.

[B]

I'd like to caution you with having too much confidence in Chase Brown as someone that's ridden this train for the first eight weeks of the season.

[A]

You start in the last two weeks.

[B]

Though I did start him this last week.

[A]

That's good.

[B]

So that was helpful. However, I have been wondering, this is one of those things where it's like if you just held onto your shares of Chase Brown because you've. You couldn't get out, you couldn't get enough for him to move him and he's still a starting running back. I think there has been a question of like, well, wait a minute. Has this revitalized enough with Joe Flacco under center that like maybe I can have a guy here? So I'm going to hope that he is the starting quarterback because if it's Jake Browning. I don't think that you can play Chase Brown for me. I would not play Chase Brown at the running back.

[A]

I think though, I mean, you look at the options in that area though of our rankings right now with. I don't think I want to look at those injuries. You kind of have to. I mean, you're looking reminder Stevenson, we'll get to him at some point. We don't know if he's going to play, but David Montgomery, he's fine. You know, Alvin Camara, I'm going to get to shortly. Bam Knight, Ken Walker, J.K. dobbins talked about yesterday. Yeah, Charbonnet, Aaron Jones, Crosby. Like, you know, there's some guys if you're like, yeah, Brown might be the best of that group. I mean, I have him ranked highest of that group right now. So it's a tricky one to sort through. But I would feel a lot better if Joe Flacco, who by the way is questionable for this one, missing practice.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

If he plays, I'll feel more confident.

[B]

We'll dive into that a little bit more tomorrow when we look at the practice report. I'm going to talk about Brock Bowers field. You had mentioned sometimes there are guys that we just. We know we're going to start but like let's have a conversation about them. We haven't seen Brock Bowers in a couple of weeks, so I kind of just want to fill the people in. It's been a minute since you've seen him.

[A]

We've gotten 1/2 of 4. Yeah. 1/2 of. One half of football so far.

[B]

Yes. Yeah. Have not seen him since week four. He has been out with a knee injury. The good news is he fully practiced on Wednesday. We are finally expecting to see him back out there on the field field on Sunday. Which means definitively, like end of analysis, we are starting him in fantasy football. That's like the main part.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But I do want end of analysis.

[B]

But I do want to talk about the offense and the rest of what it means because when you look at this four games this season and you had alluded to this Mike, Outside of Week 1's 5 for 103 for 15.3 fantasy points, he's been fine but not spectacular. I do think he was banged up those other games over the last month that he has been out. The Raiders are 27th in rushing yards per game, 27th in passing yards per game and 31st in points per game. Their offense almost couldn't be worse than what it has been.

[C]

That sounds hard to do. Yeah.

[B]

They've only scored two touchdowns since Brock Bowers has missed time. He's been out for a month. They've scored two touchdowns in a month. Wild right now Brock Bowers is going to be top five tenant for me. I just want to ask you guys, we're starting him. We feel good about it. I'm going to watch and see how does he respond coming back from injury but understanding this offense has been bad and it's his first week back.

[C]

Doesn't matter.

[B]

Like I said, we're still starting him but I don't have him at tight end one like I maybe would have earlier in the season just for the fun of the exercise.

[C]

That's fine.

[B]

What are the tight ends that you would have in front of Brock Bowers this year or this week? I'm going to list a couple of them.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Trey McBride.

[A]

Yes. Yes. Okay.

[B]

George Kittle.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I think so as well. I've got Tyler Warren against the Steelers.

[A]

I do.

[B]

Yeah, I have him as well. I got one more and it's Jake Ferguson coming off a zero point performance. But I think you can have a conversation with both Jake Ferguson and or even Aranda Gadsden with how he has played field.

[C]

Yeah, that's my next point to watch this week. I, you know the ranking to me doesn't really matter. Correct. Towers. And by the way like even though the offense stinks, it's dunk last year and he had the best rookie season for a tight end.

[B]

Maybe it stinks because he hasn't been on the field.

[C]

Definitely as a go back.

[A]

Yeah, he is a better quarterback. He does. I know Geno Smith hasn't played well but it's a better situation than last year.

[C]

So. Arande Gadzin, same question here. Is that like I think the answer is pretty obvious. Like if you have him it's not like it falls in the same category as we were just discussing. Like does it really matter whether he's the seventh or the third ranked tight end on our board this week? The answer is probably not. I understand that last week he had a goose egg in the second half but let's look at some of the underlying metrics that are important. This is the output for Gadson over the past three weeks when he actually started to play. Seven catches, 68 yards, eight targets. That was on a 69% route share which means that of all the dropbacks he ran a route on 69% of them.

[A]

Can I.

[B]

You said once he started to play and I should have looked this up beforehand Is there a reason why he basically was a healthy scratch to start the season? Was it just a. I think it.

[C]

Probably ties back to why he didn't go until the fifth round of the NFL draft. This is a receiving only tight end.

[B]

Gotcha.

[C]

But when you can nuke for 300 plus yards in three weeks, three games, then you're going to end up playing a lot. Whether you can block me or block, you know, gigantic 275 pound defensive ends.

[A]

Yeah. I think there's a reason why Will Disley and Tyler Conklin have been phased out and Tucker Fisk is actually the number two tight end now. Not to mention Scott Matlock the fullback, playing a lot of snaps because those are the blockers.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And Gatson is essentially one of the four wide receivers now.

[B]

I did not have Tucker Fisk or. Who, who's the other guy you mentioned?

[C]

Scott Matlock.

[B]

Scott Matlock on my fullbacks.

[C]

Left tight end. Yeah. So 768, an eight on eight targets on 69% of the routes for Gadson in week six and week seven. You guys remember that seven catch 164 yard game on nine targets with the touchdown, 74% route share. And then last week five catches, 77 yards, one touchdown, all on five targets. Wow. And he ran a route on just. I think it was like 72% of the dropbacks. That's all, all of them except for like it was every time that Justin Herbert dropped back but one, he was on the field for it. So the number is a little bit misleading because of the garbage time late in the game. But he was playing a ton. We have been desperate for tight end help all season and Arande Gadsden has arrived. If there is a concern for this weekend, I think it's pretty straightforward is this game 28 to nothing at the first half and that's because Kymani Fadal and Keenan Allen and Lad McConkey accounted for four touchdowns in the first half.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Yeah. But that's going to be the case for all these guys, which I'm going to talk about Quentin Johnson in a little while. But you want me to go to that one now?

[B]

Why not? Let's dive right in. I love the Chargers.

[A]

Yeah, let's do it.

[C]

Go charges.

[A]

So yeah, I want to talk about two guys that had zeros last week, Glenn Johnson and the guy you just mentioned, Jake Ferguson.

[B]

Ferguson.

[A]

Let's talk about outlooks coming off those games because it's. Look, I have Ferguson, I have Johnson. It's tough to put them back in Your lineup, I mean, you can look at it two ways. You can look at it as, okay, that is zero. I can't trust them. Or the opposite, which is they're not going to let that happen again. They're going to, you know, Johnston, Ferguson might see the first target of the game. So that's the tricky part. But starting with Johnson, again, zero targets. Last week he only played 53% of the snaps. What the Chargers are doing right now, by the way, he played 86% the first six games of the season. So that was a shocking.

[C]

Johnston.

[A]

Yeah, Johnson, the change was Trey Cherry Harris, the second round rookie. But he was just, he wasn't running routes. He was out there to block. So Trayers played a ton of snaps.

[B]

In that game and catch touchdowns.

[A]

He ran like seven routes.

[B]

Didn't he catch a touchdown in that game?

[C]

He did catch one touchdown.

[A]

That was one of his like seven routes in the game. So that's when they're throwing the football. They're still leaning towards Johnson, Keenan Allen, lad McConkey and of course Aranda gets, and we just talked about, and Vidal in the backfield. That's their, their group when they're throwing the football. So that's good. But what's bad is over the last three games, Quentin Johnson has a total of 10 targets and 17.9 fantasy points. Guys, the first four games of the season he averaged 9.3 targets and 19.9 fantasy points per game. He doesn't even total that.

[B]

It's like 20, 24. Quinton Johnson, can I have that number again?

[C]

He averaged what?

[A]

In the first four games he averaged 9.3 targets and 19.9 fantasy points per game. The last three games he has a total of 10 targets and 17.9 fantasy points.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

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[A]

Then you okay, but once you're done, they are playing the Titans is a good matchup. I'll save a little bit of that for a few minutes from now and we do the shadow report. So that gives me some optimism for him this week. But guys, the other one here, do you want to talk about that now or do you want me to go to Jake Ferguson?

[C]

Yeah, here's my Quinton Johnson story. So I've got one of my absolute best friends in life. His name is Sam. Love you, Sam. We have a huge matchup this weekend in our fantasy league. Sam actually officiated my wedding. I officiated his wedding. Be one of my best friends forever. Absolutely love the man. He After Friday Night football in Week 1, when the Raiders, I'm sorry, the Chargers and the Chiefs played down in Brazil, he texted me and he was like, is Quinton Johnston the number one waiver wire pickup for the entire season? And I was like, oh man, you know, like, I don't know, dude. Like we've watched two games. Like let's see some stuff unfold.

[B]

Like perhaps we've watched a lot of Quentin Johnston actually. So after one game it's tough to just be like, yeah, yeah.

[C]

And I was like. And so my Response to him was, I was like, ah, dude, I don't know. Like, I can't go that far yet. But he certainly has my attention. Sam has everything he touches turns to gold to him. Right. Like, he's this unbelievable athlete. He's super magnanimous. Like, everybody loves him. He's just one of the greatest guys you'll ever meet. And for like, five straight weeks, I was like, God damn it. I knew when Sam endorsed him, I knew that I should have taken Quentin Johnston to heart. And like, five straight weeks of like, whatever, 19.9 fantasy points. I'm like, sam fricking does it again. So I think Sam might have him in the matchup that we are facing off against this weekend.

[A]

Now you're saying you can't trust him?

[B]

Yes. Yeah, I can't trust him.

[A]

No, no.

[B]

Sam, like, Sam, he started hot, but I knew. I knew that once we get to.

[C]

The middle of the season, I sort of, like, put a little bit of cold water on Sam's flame there. I was like, I don't know, man. Like, I can't get that far myself.

[B]

Did you do that or did Logic. Because we had seen two years of what Quinton Johnston had looked like, and this could have just been a logic.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

This is like, to me when I saw this, and we can move on after this, but, like, I saw Quinton Johnson week one, and one of my first thoughts was I didn't mention it, but it felt like a Sammy Watkins type thing. Whereas, like, is this a guy that's just going to have one major huge week and then we're all going to overreact to it?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't know, talking about him in a certain way after like three games. I know.

[A]

And then it became a thing or straight good games. It wasn't like two good games, two bad games. It was four consecutive really good games with a lot of touchdowns and a lot of targets and a lot of area. I mean, it's like, at that point, we can't ignore it. I mean, there's something going on here. And by the way, he might have back to back good games now. And we're right back on him as a top 15 option. Very possible. He's still out there running routes and a big part of a good offense. So, yeah, I think he's third in line among Chargers receivers right now, but still startable as a.

[B]

We're still playing that game. You want to put out a social media post?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Not.

[A]

Not a lot of. We'll do it every week. It's a new order every week. I think that the bottom line is startable still, including Gadston and.

[B]

Yeah, so I was just going to say now that you've got four of.

[C]

Them is the number one Chargers receiver.

[A]

Who knows Trey Harris at some point maybe. Anyway, guys, the other one, of course is Jake Ferguson coming off a shocking zero. Brian Schopenheimer did was asked about this and he addressed it. You know, he said that it was, it was the scheme, it was just the defensive scheme. The way they spread out the defense, they couldn't get it to him. He's still a big part of the offense. So.

[C]

Yeah, I'm not worried.

[A]

I'm not worried about this one. He's still going to be a big part of an offense that's going to have to throw the football a lot. The defense is not getting any better. He's a. He's a huge part of this offense. And, and also they throw so much and they score so much that you can. CD Lam can be a top five receiver, George Pickens top 15 to 20 and Ferguson at top five totally could absolutely support, not to mention Javante Williams.

[C]

So they're fine every game they have to win. They play big 12 games only if they win.

[A]

I like that.

[C]

38, 33. Awesome. Exactly right for fantasy.

[A]

No doubt. And by the way, even with that zero catch game, he leads all tight ends with 51 catches. He's second in touchdowns and end zone targets this season. So the volume has been there for him. And a good matchup. By the way, Arizona fourth most catches and yards to tight end so far this season.

[B]

Has Dallas had their bye week already?

[C]

They have.

[B]

No, they have not. Okay, so they got one more coming up. All right, I'm going to talk about some running backs here for the Arizona Cardinals. I mentioned this already on Tuesday when we were talking waiver wire. Mike, you didn't get to be here as a part of this. Yeah. So I figured you could weigh in if you wanted to. But Bam Knight is the running back we are talking about. We had some crazy things happened earlier in the week where Michael Carter got released. I asked Field about it on the show on Tuesday. He has now been added back to the practice squad.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

So it feels like we are ramping right back up to the exact thing that you had talked about on Tuesday, Field, where this is just them doing some roster stuff that they do as a part of the NFL in the middle of the week. Nothing really to see other than that. So Bam Knight going to be the 1A in the Arizona backfield, Michael Carter has been the 1B over the last handful of games. Bam Knight, three straight games with over 19 and a half fantasy points. And when you look at this matchup, we say it every single week.

[A]

Did you say Bam Knight three straight over nineteen and a half.

[B]

Nine and a half.

[C]

You did say nineteen and a half.

[B]

Did I say nineteen and a half? That is my bad friend.

[C]

I was like, dude, I feel like he's been good, but if he.

[B]

No, he has 19 and a half.

[A]

12.4.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

I think that's.

[B]

I have nine and a half written down on my sheet. So apologies about that. However, the most that he's had is 12.4, but he's not like getting. He's not playing 85% of the snaps. Like he's been a committee.

[A]

He hasn't played half snaps in a game yet.

[B]

Correct. So all of this happening right now, the whole point is they get the Dallas Cowboys.

[C]

That's the thing.

[B]

It's the matchup. And I mentioned this on Tuesday, but I'm going to mention these running backs that have played the Dallas Cowboys already. Cam scatter boo had 13.9, J.K. dobbins had over 14, Breece hall, bless you. Had 17.5, Saquon had 18.4, RJ Harvey had over 24 fantasy points. Josh Jacob had over 31 fantasy points, and Rico Dowdle scored 33.9 fantasy points. So you've got a bunch of running backs. The field gives like, gives you a very safe floor. And because of that safe floor, that is the Dallas Cowboys. Bam Knight, for me, checks in as running back 18. He is a low end RB2 high end flex option for you. I'm going to talk about Trey Benson in a minute, but do you guys have anything else that you want to add on Bam Knight being the number one running back here this week?

[A]

Nope. There's nothing else to cover. You nailed it. I think he's pro. I want to say limited ceiling, but with this Cowboys defense, you don't know who knows exactly for 80 yards. So we have to.

[C]

I feel like when you say his name. I'll back off the chair here for a second. It can't just be Bam Night. Bam Night.

[B]

You like that? You got to do that.

[C]

You got to hit that Bam with some emphasis on.

[A]

That's a good name too.

[B]

Donovan's not bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Well, if you grabbed Bam Night for this week, I just want you to know it's probably a one week rental. We'll figure out what happens with Trey Benson. But I do want to mention it one more time because Trey Benson should be coming back potentially next week when on IR eligible. He is eligible to return. The injury was initially ruled a four to six week injury, but rostered in under 50% of leagues still. So grab him now while he's on waivers. You don't have to fight anyone else in your league to potentially get what we think. Unless you guys tell me otherwise, I'm expecting Trey Benson to come in and be the number one running back for the Arizona Cardinals.

[C]

These guys have done nothing to seize the job and take it away from him.

[B]

So go grab Trey Benson. All right, field, you're up.

[C]

Man. This one hits really close to me on a war room league level. Oh, there may not be mean. There's. It's got to be a top three matchup for a quarterback right now playing the Bengals.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Top five at worst. And yet can you play Caleb Williams? This week is so good. Check this out. Mike Clay, over the past four games, how many passing touchdowns is Caleb Williams had after the.

[A]

Over the past four games?

[C]

Four games.

[A]

I'll say two.

[C]

That's correct. However, that'd be close to the beginning. It is the Bengals. Well, he guessed it right away. Yeah, sorry, two. Caleb over his last four games has two passing touchdowns as both Daniel and Mike accurately guess. If you're looking for the good news, they play the Bengals. Four of the past five quarterbacks have actually gone above 20 fantasy points against them. Can you guys name the one quarterback in the last five games to not go over 20 fantasy points against Cincinnati?

[A]

I can't remember who anyone has played.

[B]

I was going to say the way you say that.

[A]

Patrick Mahomes. I don't know.

[C]

They haven't played.

[A]

Josh Allen.

[C]

No.

[A]

And I'm just thinking of good quarterbacks.

[C]

This guy's not quite at their level, but a really good quarterback. Jordan Love.

[B]

Oh, wow. He's the only one.

[A]

But he's been all over the map too.

[B]

Who has scored 20 points against him?

[C]

Justin Fields obviously went ham. Okay.

[B]

All right.

[C]

Love that Fields is being good. Aaron Rodgers threw four touchdown passes against them. He plays for them now.

[A]

Oh yeah. He played against them too, right?

[B]

He did. He did play against them. Yeah. All right, so here's who we got. Bo Nix, 25.7. Aaron Rodgers, 22.5. Justin Fields and Jared Goff and Trevor Lawrence. All of them smashed.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So with Caleb, I would tell you that he has a total of 20 rushing yards over the past three games. I'm not sure. That's particularly relevant per game. No total total over the last three games. I'm not sure that's particularly relevant because you don't need it against this defense. Like, we just talked about Jared Goff and Aaron Rodgers and Trevor Lawrence and, like, none of those guys are going to be mistaken for. Justin Fields, obviously, is an excellent runner, but these guys got the job done without running the football. And for those reasons, Caleb Williams, on paper, seems to be in a really, really good spot.

[B]

But Jared Goff had negative 2 rushing yards, still scored 20 fantasy points. Mike, I don't need anything from you. I just. I just needed to say that I don't need you to open your mouth about Jared Goff. All right.

[A]

I said it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, everything's coming up, as they say.

[C]

So interrupt.

[A]

I'm in. I met. I met 10. Okay, I'll take the matchup.

[B]

I was going to say I'm in because of the matchup, but I feel all of the emotional things that you are dealing with right now because it doesn't. You don't always feel confidence in these situations. Right.

[C]

Yeah. And I really. And maybe there's a Lions fan or a Packers fan out there listening or a Vikings fan who says, like, nobody cares about this thought, but I do care about it. I want Caleb to be good, man. Like, there's a ton of pressure when you're the number one overall pick in general.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

There's a lot of pressure when you're the number one overall pick in a draft in which six quarterbacks got taken in the first 12. Right. Because, like, no one's going to. Like, even if Drake May wasn't doing what he's doing right now, who was going to blame the Patriots? Like, dude, it was so obvious there were three elite quarterbacks. Like, why would you not take Drake May number three now? It's like Caleb was dealing with the pressure of Jaden took his team to the freaking NFC Championship game last year. Drake May's got the third shortest ESPN BET MVP odds right now. Like, I'm sure it's not fun for Caleb. Like, you got to do your best to block out the noise. And remember, more than anything else, you have to run your own Running your own lane, like, it's. It's your path. So I hope Caleb Williams gets right for selfish reasons in fantasy football, but certainly for the kid as well, because the Bears future is obviously largely determined by Caleb taking a big step forward.

[A]

Yeah. And they have to get the job done this week against this team. A lot of motivation. They lost to Snoop Huntley last week in Baltimore, which I thought they would win that game. I thought they had enough talent to get the job done against Lamar Jackson list team, and they did not. So they need to. And honestly, it didn't really feel like they. I know the score wasn't like massively wide. Although, by the way, do we. We didn't even talk about that. There was one good game last week.

[C]

Oh, I was. We talked about it.

[A]

Well, 11. 11. Every game was decided by 11 plus points. Except for the Jets Bengals, which is unbelievable. So. But anyway, yeah, I mean, they got, you know, they. They didn't have a lot of fight in that game. I thought they would win.

[B]

They did not.

[A]

They had. They, you know, they can't lose to the Bengals, now, can I?

[B]

I'm actually going to go next. It was supposed to be Mike. Our producers asked me to have Mike go next. But I also want to talk about a quarterback that I maybe don't have as much confidence in, but I think also has a good matchup this week. Kyler Murray is averaging 15.6 fantasy points per game this year. 15.6. He's quarterback 21 on the season, but he gets the Dallas freaking Cowboys this week.

[A]

Same kind of thing.

[B]

He had one good game, one good game. Week one. He was quarterback nine with 18.3 fantasy points. Outside of that, he has not finished as a top 13 quarterback in any other game this season. He literally has not been a starter outside of week one for anything. And now Mike Clay, in his infinite wisdom, has decided to give KYLER MURRAY A 21.9-point projection against the Dallas Cowboys.

[A]

I wonder why. Yeah, you said it at the end there.

[B]

Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray has not scored even 20 points, not scored 19 points, has not hit 20 points, has not hit 21 points. But you've got him projected for 21.5 in a season in which he's averaging 15.3. And it's because of the Dallas Cowboys. I understand that.

[C]

I get it.

[B]

So my question to you guys is, is this just one of those matchups where Kyler's good enough?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That even though he has been really bad this year and outside the top.

[A]

12, he's really bad.

[B]

He hasn't been a starter.

[A]

Sixteen points isn't horrific. It's just.

[C]

That's like we were talk about Caleb Williams a moment ago. Like Caleb's bads have literally cost you the week.

[A]

Right?

[C]

Like four fantasy points, six fantasy points.

[B]

Couple single digits in there, is what you're saying. Kyler's never been in the single digits.

[C]

14 or more every week, and he has at least 3.2 yards as a.

[B]

Rusher every week between 14 and 18.

[C]

Like, he has such a tight, very narrow range. But that's why the idea of 21 points against the Cowboys is not unfathomable.

[A]

It's like one more touchdown.

[B]

That's all we need, is just one more touchdown. He's been getting the rushing, too. Like, he has been running the football as well. He's just felt underwhelming to me. I just wanted to ask you guys, it's the same type of thing because to me, this is an emotional situation. I have not played Kyler Murray and felt confident in starting him. Mind you, he's been banged up, missed the last couple of weeks. Obviously, Jacoby Brissett has started, but I haven't felt good about it. And I have started guys that I've picked up off the waiver wire over Kyler Murray. And this is that week where it's like, are you going to go back to Kyler because the matchup is just too good to pass up? That's the conversation I totally get if you say yes and I have him as Quarterback 10. So I would do the same. But if someone was like, boy, I just don't feel good about Kyler and they want to go with another streaming option that has done well for them, I don't think I would fault them for it.

[C]

This is why, again, in my next life, when I get to rank players, I'm like, you're starting this player rather than a number. Starting this player.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Good matchup, not great player, bad matchup, really good player. Like, you throw them into categories like this because Caleb Williams, and that's kind of Murray.

[A]

That's how we order them. We just have to put them in a ranking order. But they're. I mean, that's. You know, every. Every scenario is different. You know, I play that game all the time, but it's just like, well, all right, you know, you're.

[B]

Who would you rather have, Caleb Williams or Kyler Murray this week? Both have kind of struggled so far this year. Both have really great matchups.

[A]

You have Kyler, Kyler. I have color. You know, it feels like a little bit, not as severe. But last week we were playing this game with Justin Fields. Great matchup against the Bengals. Can we trust this guy? He's at so many duds, but it's the Bengals and he paid off.

[B]

Turns out we still trust him.

[A]

Still ranked him as a QB one for that reason. Yeah. And it worked out. So it feels very similar with.

[B]

All right, all right. I like it. Eight years ago, I blew my football career.

[C]

He dropped it at the one yard line.

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[C]

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[B]

New episodes Tuesdays. Mike, gimme one more for you.

[A]

Yeah, mine. We have to have a discussion about one of the best running backs in fantasy over the last decade and ask ourselves, is this man a lineup lock anymore? In fantasy, it's Alvin Camara. It has been our Monday. It has been. What's that?

[C]

This was the conversation I brought to the table Monday. Yeah.

[A]

All right. Well, I'm gonna do it again. Okay.

[C]

Oh, no, we should.

[A]

I'm just gonna repeat your numbers. Okay, look. Hasn't reached 13 fantasy points in a since he had A season high 16 in week two. That was a long time ago, guys. Hasn't scored a touchdown since week one. Yep, he's been very quiet as a rusher lately. Under 32 yards in four straight. And this is more concerning. He's just not a major factor in the passing game anymore. They have phased that out for some reason. He is an 11% target share. That is nearly half of his career rate entering this season of 20%. He's been under 30 receiving yards in seven of eight games so far this season. And now he faces the rams. They've allowed one touchdown and the second fewest fantasy points to running backs. Only Christian McCaffrey has hit 15 against them. So very concerned about Camara here. The only possible saving grace is that Tyler Shuck is an upgrade or at least throws the ball to their running backs more often. That's what we're kind of hoping here. But I have him at 20 and honestly, I could have ranked him lower than that. The only reason he's at 20, guys, is because, as I mentioned earlier, there's not a lot of good options in that range right now.

[B]

Yeah, you said that he is under 30 receiving yards in seven of his last eight games and under 32 rushing yards in four straight.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

That's unbelievable.

[A]

And hasn't scored since week one.

[B]

That's unbelievable. We talked about how the lack of passing game usage as well, how much his targets are down.

[C]

Like it's low yards per carry career, low yards per catch. Way under his, his season long projected pace as a receiver. Like it's just. Yeah. Disaster.

[A]

And he basically said he'll retire if he gets traded. Right. So that's not going to happen.

[B]

Do you think that it is? And the answer is probably going to be no, but unfortunately we saw Kendry Miller on ir. Now Devin Neal is going to be the backup. Do you think there's any reason in like grabbing him just in case Alvin Camara gets traded or even so in.

[C]

This offense we've gone so far down the path as Mike described of like he's made it clear he wants to be there.

[A]

They're not trading, they're not going to move. Also Hill might be their number, their lead back in that scenario. Like I assume they're going to keep ramping up Taysom Hill here unless he gets traded to the Broncos. Yeah, back with Sean.

[C]

But the Kendra Miller injury might have actually been another contributing factor to why they're less likely to trade him.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah, like here you go the rest of the season with a six round pick, Devin Neal as your primary back.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Doesn't feel great. All right, anyone else you want to talk about?

[C]

Last one here just to sort of throw another one into the RB2 conversation.

[B]

Let's do it.

[C]

Might be a guy who's a sort of positive outlook. We talked about him on Tuesday during the waiver wire segment. Oh, Tyrone Tracy.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

On the radar. Definitely inside each of our top 20 this week. The Giants actually as of this Moment have just two running backs on the 53 man roster. Deep cut here, but when we went to the Bahamas the first time around, we were doing a Q and A and one of the people that was in attendance was like, what are your thoughts on Turbo Miller? And I was like, what is this like Turbo's cousin or something? Yes, it's Dante.

[A]

Turbo Miller. Yeah.

[C]

Dante Turbo Miller is a running back played at Miami now with the Giants on their practice squad and I'm sure he'll get elevated at the very least, but it's the Tyrone Tracy plus Devin Singletary show. The Niners have actually allowed a running back to reach 15 or more fantasy points in each of the last five games. So an opportunity here for Tyrone Tracy, who you are, you have required, like it's by law that you must mention when you talk about Tyrone Tracy that he played wide Receiver for four years in college.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Before moving to running back. So he does have that in his bag as well.

[A]

Yeah, no doubt he was solid last year. We talked about this before the show off the air. I mean he was a mid to back in RB2 last season when he was the lead back playing two thirds of the snapshot and that was in a horrific offense that could not score points. Now it's better with Jackson dark there so there's an opportunity here for him to be a solid RB2. And just add on to your point about the Niners defense. 26 and a half fantasy points bringing to running backs over the last five games. That's a pretty respectable sample. No doubt. I'm at 15 in my rankings so I think he's a solid RB2 here.

[B]

Seems like no Bosa, no Fred Warner. No. I mean they're just dealing with tons of injuries in San Francisco Star.

[A]

Yeah, I thought they were playing above their Again a little biased because I was very down on them coming into the season but you don't like telling you it's okay, that's fine, it's not personal but they, you know they were kind of just kept sneaking by teams and, and impressively with the players they were missing but now two losses in a row now they go into New York. I picked the Giants here. I think they win this game.

[C]

Yeah, maybe, maybe. But maybe Brock Purdy's back.

[A]

Yeah, I expect him back. I don't know. I, I, it's, it's tough to just keep it going for 18 or 17 games with such a shorthanded roster.

[B]

Nice thing for the Giants at least is it feels like they, I mean unless you guys tell me otherwise, it feels like they have a quarterback that they can be excited about for the next little bit. Especially for the fans to rally around the Malik Neighbors injury sucks. The Cam Katabus injury sucks. But thinking about if I'm a Giants fan. Wait a minute. We found something I think in Jackson Darts our front four for the defense by the way. Like we've got a great defensive line if we can get those two offensive pieces back next year like we've got something to be able to build towards. It feels like there's something building like.

[A]

The Patriots last year, right. You got found yourself quarterback but we still have work to do on the roster. Maybe year two we make the leap and we've seen that. So I like it. Definitely it could happen.

[B]

All right guys, it is now time for this week's real deal Player of the week presented by Little Caesars we're trying to get you free pizza again. Excuse me. 15% off pizza again. Excuse me.

[A]

Last week, what you got? We got two out of three weeks.

[B]

We have gotten two out of three weeks. Maybe three out of four even three out of impression. Yeah.

[C]

All right. Yeah, let's go. What do you got this week?

[B]

We are going to go back to the. Well, I never want to pick the same player in back to back. Is that it is not in the rules. It's just a rule that I have decided. So I'm going to go with a player that I picked a couple weeks ago and that is Sam Darnold.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

What a match.

[B]

Sam Octavius Darnold. Yeah. Taken on the Washington Commanders.

[C]

That is actual middle name.

[B]

I don't believe. So don't fact check that. 15 or more fantasy points in five of his last six games. The only team in which he didn't hit 15 fantasy points against was Houston Texans. The Houston Texans, which by the way, it's the Houston Freaks and freaking Texans. So like they're really good. Washington allowing the fifth most fantasy points per game to the quarterback position that year. And I was going to bring it up if you didn't bring it up earlier in the show. He has a wide receiver with a projection over 24 fantasy points in this game.

[C]

24.57 is the exact number for JSN.

[B]

Unbelievable. Is that the biggest projection you've had for a wide receiver this year?

[A]

It's probably close to Puka Nukua when he was at his peak. Like week four or five was very close. Yeah.

[B]

Well, Sam Darnold and Jackson Smith and Jigba have been unbelievable this season. I believe here in week nine against the Commanders that is going to continue to roll. So we're going to go with him as our real deal player the week to try and get you 15% off pizza on Monday. Let's dive into the Mike Clay playbook as you give us the Shadow report every single week breaking down wide receiver, cornerback matchups. Mike Clay, go on over to ESPN.com to find the playbook right now. Give us a couple of upgrades to start this.

[A]

Let's do it. We'll start with Quentin Johnston. We talked about him earlier. This applies to Johnson and the Chargers wide receivers keenan Allen and lad McConkey as well. Again, we're not going to do Trey Harris because he's out there just, just past blocking, run blocking, whatever it may be. But the Titans have allowed 9.7 yards per target that is second highest and a, a 75% catch rate that is highest to wide receivers this season. Their top corner, Legarius need is on IR and their top slot corner, Roger McCurry was traded to the Rams on Monday. So even without Sneed, they're just like we're. We're packing it in. I mean their corners right now. Can you name any of them? Any idea? Name one Tyken Titans corner, one Titans corner right now. Honestly, it's so tough right now. I don't even know who's going to man the slot for them.

[C]

That's Finnegan Corland.

[A]

Finnegan, yes. Got it. Yep. 1997 or something. Yeah. Actually, they might need him. Maybe both McCourties could go play Kevin.

[B]

Bayard, but he's no engine. He's in Chicago now. Right.

[A]

He's got long gone. Yeah.

[B]

I'm trying to think of just someone else. Yeah.

[A]

How about Jalen Armore Davis and Daryl Baker Jr. Yep, there we go.

[B]

Daryl Baker Jr. Obviously.

[A]

So they're their perimeter corners and then I honestly usually I could identify the next man up in the slot. I'm not sure what they're going to do. If they're going to use money, hooker or something. I don't know what they're going to do. So anyway, that's a mess. Chargers receivers in a fantastic spot this week. All right, next UP, Michael Pittman Jr. And the Colts receivers against the Steelers. This is a surprising one, but the Steelers cannot stop passing games right now. The most catches and yards to receivers, the fifth most fantasy points to receivers this season, the most over the last four weeks. So Colts receivers in a very good spot. Pierce, Josh sounds kind of like deeper league sleepers as well here. Next up, our guy, Travis Hunter.

[C]

Yeah, baby.

[A]

Let's. Travis Hunter against the Raiders. I mentioned this yesterday. Raiders fourth most catches and fantasy points, the seventh most yards and nine touchdowns already to wide receivers. And for all we know, Travis Hunter might be the number one receiver for the guy starting this week. At the very least, he should be in so a good spot there. And finally, can I ask you a quick question, sir?

[B]

You can because field and I had him. I had him at wide receiver, 22, I think. Field, you were at 25. Did you move Travis Hunter up after a conversation? No, you did not.

[A]

He's on. No, I. I have him where he was. I have Thomas at 21 and I have Hunter at 35, so it's enough for him to be.

[B]

But still a great matchup.

[A]

Yeah. And I boosted his target share a little bit, but again, he's had one good game. I'd like to see it again. And there's. That's a very saturated area with guys that are also playing well. I mean, T. Higgins, assuming Joe Flacco goes Wanda Robinson, Tetaroa, Khalil Shakir has been awesome now for the last month or so. You talked up Juwan Jennings, other guys with good matchups like Quentin Johnson, There's a lot of good guys in that option. But again. Or in that. In that area. But if you have Hunter, I'd be hard pressed to put him on my base.

[B]

This is one of those conversations where when we talked about it, like wide receiver 20 to 35 on any given week can basically be. You're talking, you know, very close, two points. You know, where you're looking at those guys in projection.

[A]

Freddie Menu lineup for sure. All right. Another guy you're going to start is Marvin Harrison Jr. Against, of course, the Cowboys. We talked about Kyler Murray in this matchup, but do you have to feel.

[B]

Good about it or do you just have to start him?

[A]

No, I. I think if you have him and you drafted him, you're like, this is a week where like, finally.

[B]

I show you the week.

[A]

Yeah, this. I mean, come on. Dallas has allowed 15 touchdowns to receivers. It's most. The most fantasy points, the highest yards per target. They're dead last in the EPA against the pass. Last week against Denver, they allowed 51.4 fantasy points and three touchdowns to Denver Broncos wide receivers. And, I mean, Coral and Sutton, I think, was fine last week. Right. He didn't like.

[C]

It was fine.

[A]

He was like Troy Franklin. That.

[B]

Troy Franklin went off.

[A]

Yeah. So, I mean, Tron Diggs is on IR now. I mean, it's just. It's a mess right now for their past defense. So, yeah, all systems go from Marvin Harrison. No other Cardinals receivers, though. Michael Wilson just hasn't happened. I mean, just can't trust any of these other guys. So. Okay, that is it for upgrades.

[B]

Like the upgrades.

[C]

All right.

[A]

It's nice to be. I feel like my. The first segment was all negative.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

So let's keep it wrong with the negative stuff.

[A]

Let's get back to negatives now. Okay. Roma dunes. He's going to draw the DJ Turner shadow this week. The Bengals overall have been bad against wide receivers, but D.J. turner has shadowed in a bunch of games. And here's the output from. From those receivers. Travis Hunter, 5.2 points. Justin Jefferson, 12 1/2. Corland Sutton, 19.1. He was good. Good. Jameson Williams, 1.9. Romeo Dobbs 10.5, DK, Metcalf 8.0. That works out to 9.5 points per game. Only Sutton was over 12 1/2 MIA shadow, guys. He has been really good. In fact, seven of the top eight wide receiver performances this season against the Bengals have come from players D.J. turner did not shadow.

[C]

Right there.

[A]

It's a lot of. Yeah, exactly right. That's why I have him boosted this week. I have him at 32 in my ranks.

[B]

Is this one of those situations where teams just run the ball so well against Cincy that they just don't need to throw the ball very much?

[C]

They're throwing the ball well against Cincy. Aaron Rodgers, Jared.

[B]

It's just not to their number one wide receivers. Whoever's not.

[A]

Yeah. What's wild about this is the Bengals are top five in fan in yardage and touchdowns allowed to opposing passing.

[B]

Okay, well then never mind.

[A]

They're just bad against everything except for number one receivers because Turner is a bright spot on this defense. Yep. Next up, guys, Drake London draws Christian Gonzalez. Now, now, I don't just assume Sundom plays. Of course he was out last week. We suspect he may, but we'll keep an eye on that. Gonzalez has only shadow once this season. He missed the first three games, then he just played his side of the field the first couple of games back. But last week they made the shift and he shadowed Jerry Judy. Jerry Judy had zero catches in that game. So Gonzalez, who shadowed a lot last year and was very effective, is one of the better young corners in the NFL. So this is a potentially tough assignment here for Drake London, who's been really good. 25 plus points, two of his last three. But. But a tough matchup here against Gonzalez potentially. Okay, next up, we've talked about this guy lots of season. Derek Stingley Jr. Should shadow Cortland Sutton this week. Stingley has been very good. The guys he shadowed early, he actually hasn't shadowed over like the last few weeks. They haven't had to. Sometimes you have these stretches where there's no like clear, definitive standout. Number one perimeter receiver. Houston hasn't played any of them the last few weeks. But earlier in the year, shadow Devonte Adams, 7.2 points, Mike Evans 10.6, Brian Thomas Jr. 7.5.

[C]

So he didn't shadow JSN, right?

[A]

He did not shadow JSN, which is, you know, it gets. Yeah, yeah. And he had tricky with those guys. I thought he might when he was on the perimeter. He didn't. But sometimes with those like short range guys like Rasheed Rice is another example of a guy that's probably not going to get shadowed very often because he.

[C]

Moves around like, not so much. Yeah, totally.

[A]

Exactly right. So that was the case in that one. So that was a miss. But anyway, this is a tough assignment for Sutton, who generally is on the perimeter and has drawn a lot of shadows so far this season. We're also downgrading Troy Franklin. I know he's coming off a big game. It's going to be tempting to use him. But Houston has allowed the fourth few of his fantasy points to receivers, the lowest catch rate and only three touchdowns so far to receivers.

[B]

You don't want them, any of them this week. You want Troy Franklin next week. Mike, I tried to allude to this. They play the Las Vegas Raiders next week. So if you need another dart throw, that's your Troy Franklin week. Is one of you going to talk about Bonix tomorrow? Because if not, I will mention. Okay, then I'll. Then we'll talk about it.

[A]

Phoenix in this matchup. Yeah, good idea. Last one, guys, is another. This is a tricky situation. Nico Collins again. Let's assume he plays for the sake of this. If he plays, he will not see Patrick in the second. Who's on ir? He's going to be out for a while.

[C]

That's not an IR but out.

[A]

I thought he was. I thought they were going to. Oh, they were. They. They may put him on ir. I guess they said, well, we'll keep an eye on that. But anyway, he's gonna be out for a few weeks. Let's put it that way. It's still a tough matchup. I think the Broncos defense is outstanding. Third best EPA against the past. Only two touchdowns allowed to receivers. 6.3 yards per target. The second fewest fantasy points. Just across the board dominance against that position. You know how many receivers have hit 20 fantasy points against.

[C]

I'm going zero. Mike.

[A]

Zero is the correct answer. Zero receiver. So it is easier without Pats or Tan. But Riley Moss is solid. They have what J. Baram is their first round pick this year. Just kind of chilling out in the bench this year because they're so solid.

[C]

First interception last week.

[A]

Yeah, exactly right. So they're in a good spot on defensively even without Pat. Certain. Not as concerning as it would have been if Sir Tan played. But still a downgrade for the Houston passing game. Love that. And that's it. And that's it.

[B]

No more. I mean, obviously you have the rest of the playbook. You can go in and check that out. Mike has a ton of stuff in there to be able to look. All right, Love that. Thank you very much, Mike Clay.

[A]

You're welcome. Can I go now?

[B]

No, you cannot. No, you cannot. I did just look this up because I was curious. As Fieldhead said, Denver not expecting to put Patrican on ir but they are expecting him to miss four to six weeks. Which means if they can come back earlier, then maybe a chance he comes back a little early.

[C]

Yep, exactly.

[B]

We'll see how that works out. Let's dive into our Thursday Night Football preview.

[C]

Hey, hey, hey.

[B]

All right. We talked about the Ravens having really good matchups for the rest of the season with Mike Clay strength of schedule yesterday and it starts tonight against the Miami Dolphins field. Is there one thing. There may be multiple things, but is there one thing that you were looking at in this football game?

[C]

Well, I think we're all most excited to see Lamar Jackson who's back back baby Pian projection of over 23.4 fantasy points there from Mike. So certainly Lamar being back is the biggest storyline of the impact it has on the offense. Does a Flowers have a bigger second half of the season than he has over the past four to five? He was red hot coming out of the gates. Was a Flowers. Yep. Why Lamar Jackson was on the field. Derek Henry is in a good spot as well, but sort of the thing that I guess I am kind of curious on is to a streamer this week. After what he did last week he I would have a hard time getting there myself. It is a very good matchup on paper. Even if the Ravens played better defensively last week and maybe you're somebody that has Caleb Williams or Kyler Murray and is like I really want to roll the dice on Tua. He is outside my top 12 of quarterbacks this week. That being said, if ever there was a time for TUA to stack back to back good games on paper this seems like potentially one of those times.

[A]

Yeah, I'm with you. Baltimore again. We keep thinking they have to get better. Right. And they still got smashed by Chicago receivers last week again. So it's just like man you're. You could be all right but I know I'm not.

[B]

Sooner or later he's not going to.

[A]

Add anything with his legs. You have to have it through the air and I just don't trust.

[B]

Yeah I'm. That's the one thing that I'm going to be watching is I two weeks ago after what was a brutal showing by the ME Dolphins, I just had very little confidence in what that team looked like with the vibes. The way that if we were wondering if people were going to get fired after that game and then a huge bounce back last week in a way that I did not plan on. So when I look at this Dolphins team, I'm just, just I'm curious which team is going to show up. Which Jaylen Waddle, which to a Devon Achan is sort of always shows up because of the things that he does within his skill set. But I'm curious what the rest of the passing game is going to look like in Miami.

[C]

I think you feel really good about both Devon an and Jalen Waddle in your lineup. Waddle. In four or five games since outside of the one, Dubb has been really, really solid.

[A]

Yeah. Speaking of the Miami passing game, I'll talk about a fellow by the name of Malik Washington here. Guys. There's been four games without Tyreek Hill. Here are the target leads for the Miami Dolphins. First, Jalen Waddle, 26. No surprise. Second, come on, HN. Right behind. He is 25.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Third in line, not far behind. Malik Washington with 24 was 26. 25. 24.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Right there. He has five plus targets in all four games. He had a career high eight in week seven.

[C]

I believe his average depth of target is half of a yard.

[A]

Yeah. Which checks out because as I'm going to get you here, he had to touchdown in week eight. Yeah. Okay. You know, a couple good things here. He also had a season high in yardage last week, guys, with 36 yards.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Also a season I had fantasy points with 13.6. So it's tempting to see those targets and that usage and be like, all right, maybe I want to fire this guy up as a wide receiver three or a flex. But it's tough. He hasn't had a big game yet at all. Like, we literally, it's not like, oh, at least we've seen the upside with one. It hasn't happened at all yet for him. The Ravens have allowed the second most fantasy points to receivers. As I mentioned that the 40. They allowed 42 points to Chicago's receivers last week. So. So there's some reason to think that, you know, maybe he gets away for a big play in this one, but the way he is utilized has not allowed him to have a big fantasy game. So I'm pausing on that one a little bit.

[B]

All right, okay. If you guys were going to choose this game, anybody taking the Miami Dolphins.

[A]

In this one, one shock of me.

[C]

But no, I'm taking The Ravens here.

[A]

Me, too.

[C]

Ravens. 20.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

27 26.

[C]

Odds on favorite at ESPN bet are the Baltimore Ravens. You say 27? 26.

[B]

I can't believe you have it that close.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, the Ravens have not shown they can stop anyone. That's fair. Dolphins should be able to do some damage. Again, it's not enough for TUA to be a good streaming option, but that's just the way quarterback is in fantasy. If you're not running, yeah, you could throw. You could even throw three touchdowns and be outside the top 15.

[B]

So it's Tua last week had what, 205 passing yards and four touchdowns for barely 20 fantasy. I think it was like 20.3 fantasy points, and he had four touchdowns to barely get there. So we'll see how that works. All right, let's talk about a Raheem Sanders monopoly fund. Guys, I kind of want to do a little bit of an oral history, if you don't mind, for this, because I just want to walk through so that people know where we're at right now. We're here in week nine. We said in week one. You know what would be fun? Let's go ahead and do this game field. You do a game every Sunday on fantasy football now with Adam Schefter called long shots. You guys pick players that are rostered under 10%.

[C]

20%.

[B]

20%. Okay. So under 20% and you go to see who has the most fantasy points, and you guys do this fun back and forth. We thought, why not do that, but have maybe a little bit more fun? Because we got big brain Mike Clay here. We can't do 20%. We can't even do 10%. We went all the way down and we said we're going to start at 1% and see if we can find players under 1% rostered that are going to find their way into the end zone. Yeah, Week one, we created the game. Week two happens, and we're going to show some stuff here on our full screen on the YouTube stream. Week two happens, and Mike Clay hits in week two with Tyquan Thornton under 1% roster. Then week three happens, we run the game back, and our producers hit Cole Comet under 1% rostered. And we said, wait a minute, this was supposed to be a thing in which we were hoping to win maybe one time throughout the season. We just hit it back to back weeks. So we decided we need to limit the percentages of the players that we can choose from. So we went half of whatever the previous percentage was. Is what you have to do.

[A]

So.

[B]

We went from 1% in week three, 2. Half a percent in week four. We missed in week four. Really sorry about that. Then week five comes back, still at half a percent rostered mike. Excuse me. Field hits Xavier Hutchinson. Now we gotta knock it in half again. So down to 0.3% and field hits again with Tez Johnson at 0.2%. Roster, double bang. Then we go down from there to 0.1%, and Mike Clay hits Kanata Mumfield at 0.0%. Rostered Mike Clay, bang. And we stick at 0% for week eight, and our producers again hit Tyler Johnson from the jets for another touchdown. At 0% rostered for the rest of the season. We have said, guys, we're just going to stay at 0.1% or lower. But the idea that we've been able to go from 1% and half it every single time, and since we started this game, we've hit it every week but one is absolutely insane. A tip of the cap to both of you and our producers for being so good at this stupid game. Congratulations.

[C]

Tip of the cap to you for getting it this week. Yeah, that's right.

[A]

You're gonna get there. At least next year when we play this, we know where to start.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

One percent.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That's it. Yes.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

Like, I don't know how we do it. Maybe we have just a sample of fours too many. Maybe we just need to agree on one a week or so.

[B]

I don't know. Maybe that's what it is.

[C]

This is just awesome.

[B]

I like it.

[C]

I'd be a drought.

[A]

Well, you were the one that was like, no, I don't want anyone to hit till week nine or something.

[C]

Well, now I like it.

[B]

Not yet. Exactly. This has been fun.

[C]

I feel like you're due, Daniel. I do feel like you're. I also felt like when I was looking through the names this week, they were less inspiring than usual.

[A]

They were.

[B]

They were a little bit.

[C]

Unfortunately, 1% or lower this week.

[B]

As a part of this, every time that you hit the money that goes into our Raheem Sanders Monopoly fund, whoever, you know, hits it, gets the money. You guys have a boatload of cash right now.

[C]

Yes. I'm rich.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You guys are both doing very well. Yes, exactly. Our producers are doing really well. So we'll see how it goes this week. Who won last week? Producers. Producers. All right, I'm going to start with their pick. Our producers this week are going to go with Bo Collins, wide receiver from the New York Giants to try and find their way into the end zone.

[C]

Wide receiver.

[B]

All right. Field minister Yates, where are you going to go with yours?

[C]

I am going to a tight end. Colby Parkinson.

[B]

Ooh, wow.

[A]

He's that low. No way.

[C]

Los Angeles Rams. Yeah. Who. The last time we saw him, they obviously had a buy last week. He had three targets for 45 yards. He's an okay player. Like, yes. I look at it as like a guy who's going to be on the field for probably somewhere between 30 and 50% of the snaps.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Awesome offense. Matthew Stafford throws it everywhere. Colby Parkinson.

[B]

I like it.

[C]

Saints.

[B]

I like it.

[A]

I'll go with the tight end. I'll go with the tight end as well. That's 0.1% of ESPN league. Still no Brenton Strange down there in Jacksonville. So I'm going to go with Hunter Long, who I think had abused like a month ago or like the first week after out 14 targets, 11 catches, 79 yards and two touchdowns already this season. So this guy already has two scores and is essentially a starting tight end.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You may recall this might have been. I know Canada Mumfield was like at a long of long shots, but like.

[B]

It was the call of the year. Mike. Let's be honest.

[C]

I'll take.

[A]

But the one that would have beat it was a tight end that scored a touchdown against the Raiders. Who Long's facing this week? A couple weeks ago, David Martin Robinson from S. Yeah, he. He. He was like our just a random tight end that scored against him. So I'm going to go Hunter Long in this one. He gets it done this week.

[B]

I like it. Big shout out to the Admiral as well. David Martin Robinson.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

That's a basketball. That's a basketball reference. That's one of my kids.

[A]

Duncan and David Robinson, right? Yeah. I am so proud of you right now.

[B]

That's so good.

[C]

This is. My kids do what they're supposed to do. I'm like, I'm speechless.

[A]

I'm like. My only NBA exposure now is like once in a while I'll catch like a. From like all the Philly people. I follow like the Sixers. It sounds like they have a good rookie.

[C]

That's like VJ Edgecomb.

[A]

Yeah, he's pretty good. Points and Michael Jordan. Through three games, he had one of.

[C]

The greatest NBA debuts ever. He is also from Bahamas.

[A]

Oh, no way.

[C]

No way. Yeah.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Shout out. All right. All right.

[A]

Yeah, I like that. All right. So go Sixers.

[C]

Our director today, Brian, is a gigantic Philly sports fan, and he knows that VJ Edgecombe had more points in his first ever NBA game than Michael Jordan had in his first three games, so.

[B]

Oh, his first three games versus Jordan's first three games.

[A]

I'm just saying, for the record, I just said I said that first. Or he said that in our ear. I said that.

[B]

You were like, I'm there.

[A]

Corrected.

[C]

By the way, the takeaway is we're saying this now on Fantasy Focus. Yes, VJ Edgecombe will be better than Michael Jordan, clearly.

[A]

Yeah, I'm happy to say that because I don't know anything. So I'm not a part of the this.

[C]

No, no. Daniel's. His team poked the bear back.

[B]

I'm not going to poke Michael Jordan anymore.

[C]

Pistons are the reason why Michael Jordan became the Goat because he was so pissed off at them that he was like, you know what? I'm just going to beat you every year.

[B]

I don't want Jordan to unretire at 63, come back out and win a championship over the.

[A]

Okay, well, whatever. He's a NASCAR owner now. He's busy. Busy with that. He's good.

[C]

He's on TV now, too.

[B]

Yes, he is.

[C]

NBC.

[B]

NBC. I saw that. Yeah.

[A]

By the way, we were saying he's better than Panthers corner Mike Michael Jordan.

[B]

Oh, that's what it was. Way to pull it back to football.

[C]

Thank you, Guard Michael Jordan.

[A]

That, too. Yeah.

[C]

Isn't it Michael Jackson?

[A]

I'm sorry. It's Michael.

[C]

Every time that guard Michael Michael Jordan has some sort of transaction, he could be. I will tweet.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Just without fail. Yes. He's on the short list of guys. It's an auto tweet. You have to.

[A]

Yeah, no doubt.

[C]

There are others that are funny in different ways that you have to tweet.

[A]

Like Kobe Bryant is one of them. Yes. Like Kobe. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

We've been waiting. Obviously, this is the pick that's going to win it.

[C]

Right?

[A]

We.

[B]

We've been slow playing it, but we want to let you guys know who's tailing it.

[C]

Who's tailing it. Everybody should be, obviously.

[B]

And you should tail it. By the way, if you put an anytime touchdown down on any of these people and they make it in the end zone, please shoot us a tweet. Send us anything like.

[C]

And this probably isn't allowed, but we should almost match your winnings.

[B]

Yeah, I.

[A]

There'd be.

[B]

I wish that we could. There'd be a way. We should do something to be able.

[A]

To do it, but we should get a Cut. Actually, I think I would, like, send.

[C]

You an autograph or something. I don't know. Like, if you trail it and you. I mean, I don't want. You know.

[A]

Know what?

[C]

I'm going to stop short because I don't want to. Whatever.

[B]

Let's get into it, though, because my player this week is going to be the wide receiver from the Arizona Cardinals that will get in the end zone.

[C]

Wow. Zay Jones.

[B]

Zay Jones.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

Five for 79 in week six, two for 67 in week seven. You did by week in week eight. And then you guys. Like, I originally, my player was going to be Hunter Long. The producers told me that I could not choose it because Mike had already chosen him. So you had me at the Dallas Cowboys is what I'm going with.

[A]

I had a backup option and I thought this is where you were going. Lions receiver Khalif Ramis.

[C]

I thought about him, too.

[B]

I thought it, too. Thought it, too.

[A]

It's my backup.

[C]

It's funny, like, when you pick these players, you end up watching them so closely. Oh, my gosh. And I was watching, and this was especially easy to watch because last week There were just three, 4pm games and two of them were not good, but the Cowboys and the Broncos was sort of the signature game. And Nate Adkins, my pick last week.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

Drops a touchdown, like, in the end zone. Nice. Now, there was also, like an illegal shift or something, but it was so funny for a second I was like, no, I did.

[A]

Yes, I know I did.

[B]

Oh, that's.

[A]

That was. I was. We were on the FF now, set for the Kanata Mumfield one. And I was in like a. Basically a meeting with Addison. And Field is screaming from the other side of the studio. I'm like, what? I'm like, I'm trying to listen to Addison. He's screaming. And then I figured out what happened, and then I. Then I was done with.

[B]

Because that was the early 9:30 game. Right. We were going through, like, the Buymageddon set or something. That was very fun. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Anyway, we're into it. We care about it.

[B]

We absolutely do care about it. Let's do a couple of quick questions as we get out of here. From our YouTube chat. A big shout out to our buddy Eric Moody, who is in there every single day. Follow him on social media at Eric and Moody. Our first question comes from Ricolas. Cage wants to know, do you trade away Jamar and Joe Flacco for JSN and Kyler Murray Auto?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, you're getting the same level of wide receiver and a better fantasy quarterback.

[A]

You're probably getting a better receiver, maybe.

[B]

A better receiver at the very close.

[A]

And you're getting a much better quarterback.

[B]

Yeah, I'm in on that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So pull the trigger. Let's make that one happen. All right. Another question that we have here from our YouTube chat. This one comes from AJH 31696. Would you start Tucker Kraft, who has been red hot, or Marvin Harrison Jr. In your Flex against the Dallas Cowboys?

[C]

Craft.

[A]

I'm going. I'm going. Harrison here for sure. Yeah, I know Kraft is average more fantasy points for him and I'm taking Harrison in this match. Tucker crack boy.

[B]

I don't want to be the one to break the tie because I don't feel confident in Marvin Harrison Jr. It's tough for me. It's tough to start two tight ends.

[C]

Okay, well, I'm taking Tucker Craft. Is it a board bet it?

[B]

I kind of. That's where I'm at. I think I want to board bet it. I think I might go with Tucker Craft two field.

[C]

Oh, you can also. You can also take the tie and just get the two points if you get the exact same number for both those players.

[B]

All right, let's do it.

[C]

All right, Isaac. Tucker Kraft outscores Marvin Harrison Jr. In week nine.

[A]

I say Marvin Harrison Jr. Outscores Tucker Kraft in week nine.

[B]

I say they both score exactly the same number of points in week nine. Nine. Put her on the board.

[C]

That's a fun one right there.

[B]

Yeah, that'll be a good one. Not very often that you're ranking a guy that was the number four overall pick against just a tight end.

[A]

Averaging more points than Harrison this year.

[C]

But he is the highest scoring tight end in all of fantasy football.

[A]

Look at that.

[B]

All right.

[A]

On a points per game basis, we.

[B]

Got one more question here from our YouTube chat. This one comes in from Greg Mashopoulos wants to know DOP on behalf of the colorblind Clue, thanks for bringing awareness to our struggles. When you said you couldn't, when you said it finally made sense to your mom that you were colorblind, did it come out of the purple? That's so hilarious.

[A]

That is really bad joke.

[B]

That's a good one, momma. DOP for the record, was like, I remember seeing her face and it was just like this wave of like, oh, my gosh. I feel so much better understanding that you're not just broken, that there is like a reason for you to. Yes, exactly. So it was very good. But I shout out anybody that is colorblind. You gotta stand up for all the colorblind people out there, including Mike, for making sure that when you put out that chart, people like me can read it. Thank you very much for that.

[C]

It's a great red polo Mike's wearing.

[A]

It is.

[B]

It's a good looking red polo. All right, that's gonna do it for us today. Today's show is presented by Little Caesars on behalf of Field and Mike. Don't forget to love each other. Be kind to yourself. You guys deserve it. And we'll see you back here tomorrow on Friday. Peace.

[A]

Fantasy.

[B]

You're in the 06010 Focus Fant.

[C]

Fantasy. Focus.