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Connor
I'm here in the bunker. I'm here in the love hate bunker at my house. And so I'm watching, you know, I'm watching now you guys, as opposed to like when we're on the desk and I'm just sort of, you know, I'm looking at, at the rundown and I'm sort of in my own mind so I'm getting more of a chance to look at Jay as opposed to a side view, which is what I usually get at the table. I get, I'm looking at him straight on. Connor, can we get a ruling on this facial hair that, that Jay has started to grow this, this prepubescent kind of muscle look. He's looking like he's ready to go out and solve some mysteries or something like that. I would like the regulars to weigh in on whether or not Jay should keep the facial hair. I'm not sure I'm down with it, Connor.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Well, it's about one day away from being more of an evil look.
Matthew Berry
Fantasy Football Happy Hour with Matthew Berry.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Happy Friday. Welcome to the Fantasy Football Happy Hour. That's right. Evil Jack drinks for free. You can clap for yourself.
Jay
Yeah, why not?
Host (possibly Field Yates)
It's a tailored look now. I feel like you're being mindful of it.
Jay
Had Jen in makeup yesterday or a couple days ago. Tell me I need to get a haircut.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
As well.
Jay
There's very few people in America who aren't telling me to remove hair from my body in some way or another. I will say before we get into the rundown, one of the great instances of stones being thrown in glass houses because there are a lot of things that other shows might do better than us, but there is nothing that is done better in the fantasy football industry than the ability to grow bad facial hair than this show 100%.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
I'll take the charge.
Jay
Matthew's got absolutely nothing. Lawrence Jackson, unfortunately he does raise the bar a little bit. But yeah, and also as well in terms of whether I'm going to shave. I haven't shaved in 33 years. I've never shaved.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
This is just a look.
Jay
33 years of work and I don't plan on shaving anytime soon.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Respect. I take the exact same approach. Also, it feels like all of our coworkers are getting comfortable with us. When someone's telling you to get a haircut, someone else is making fun of your facial hair, which I'll raise my hand. Listen, welcome to the regulars by the way, on this lovely Friday. Of course, Matthew Berry will be joining us here in just a moment maybe. Yeah, we think so from his NBC branded bunker, which you will all see in just a moment. Listen, we have an interesting show today. We've gotten a lot of requests around salary cap related drafts. So we're going to talk strategy with those how they differ from a normal Snake draft. Going to be taking a ton of your questions and probably issues in the comment section as well. So we'll be pulling from YouTube. So if you're watching live on YouTube or if you're not, this is a reminder that you should be every day 12:00pm Eastern time live on YouTube. And of course we'll get to all the player news. We had a couple preseason games last night. Couple things to react from as well. Maybe some future trades on the way before we close things out with last call. So we try to predict. It's not that hard to predict who will win the the AFC East. But Jay, let's jump right into it here. Salary cap draft 101. I think number one, the pros of this are pretty obvious. It's the most fair way to draft. There's nothing skewed by necessarily draft position. Everyone has access to every single player. So if say you were a massive Najee Harris fan, you could bet a wide allotment of your pool on that player where you look at the console. Yeah, the drafts typically take much, much Longer, they can be harder to prep for because there is one of our favorite words on the show, more variants and mistakes are more costly. But let's start with the pros here. Jay, what is something that you like about the salary cap draft?
Jay
Well, I think the main thing is just fairness and having access to every player and having that player pool available as opposed to being at the mercy of a Snake draft where your spot in the order is just going to determine so much. So I think that is the, the best thing, just kind of creating equality. Also, if you're a real sicko and you really want your draft to take a long time and you want to really investigate every single player, then this is the better format because you can really kind of expand on those opinions by having access to every player. So I think that is the best stuff. I think the main negative is just that one. It just takes a long time. It takes a really long time. And then also if you're doing it with, you know, just kind of like a homely, like friends and stuff who haven't really done, it's absolute chaos. Like no one knows really what to do. And so if you do know what you're talking about, that can be a good thing. But it's, yeah, it's like there is more variance in the experience of the draft, I'd say.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Yeah, I would think that it's one of those that you probably hate your league mates by the time it's done and you're going to need a couple of days to like them again for not only the bidding, but how long it takes.
Jay
I will say as well, it is a better format for comedic value. Yes. Just with the way that people will just absolutely blow their budget to too early. And it's a, again, a strategic thing too, where if, you know, the people that you're drafting with are very conservative, then you're better off, you know, putting up, potentially putting up big names of players you want earlier. If you think that people are going to just go wild from the get go, then put up, you know, names of people that you don't want to be taken. So there's a lot more. I think there is, in a way, there's a lot more strategic elements just because there's more control that you can exercise. And also it's kind of fun to be, you know, driving up the price on players you don't actually want. Like there's all these elements that don't come into play in Snake drafts.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Right. And, you know, going back to kind of your Point here is that some of your league mates might just say, hey, I'm going to allocate so much budget to wide receiver and you can kind of look at the running back board and be like, oh, I can pay, you know, $0.50 on the dollar for who? I think it will be an RB1 for their team. So there's just a lot of it with salary cap drafts is knowing the people you play with because they're going to have biases for certain players that where a Snake draft as the order comes down and you're most likely doing it from. You know, if you're not doing it on a draft board in person, you're most likely doing it on a computer with rankings in front of them. That skew biases as well. By the way, awesome comment from Julio. Think you are audio issues or building up to the main event? We'll see. Matthew's music might just hit at some point and he'll jump in here. All right, so let's get in. We're going to get into some more questions as well. Don't worry if you have more questions. Salary cap draft related, we'll jump to those. But let's talk about player values as well because this is a really, really important one. If you're playing on an industry site slash platform, you need to look up the average values from recent drafts because this kind of goes back to it. It feels like the pool is more wide open, more scatter shot than just kind of trickling one by one down a board.
Jay
Yeah, absolutely. I think with Snake Draft, ADP is just a very easy thing to conceptualize where, okay, you just know that Christian McCaffrey is going RB5. Here's how many running backs have been taken before him. I think that just understanding your scoring system and how that translates to auction values is very important. You can see here the fancy Life plus, which is rare values, which is super helpful because if you don't know what the value is, if you can't conceptualize it off the top of your head, which is a very difficult thing to do, then this is a very important guideline. So very crucial to know the format and how it translates the values because otherwise you're really flying wide.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Yeah, I mean this for context here. You might go into a draft and think, okay, do I have to spend $55 for Ashton Genti? Well, this gives you kind of a baseline of, hey, if you believe in Genti more than most people, you think he should be the fourth or fifth pick in a draft. Well, then maybe you're willing to spend 40 bucks. But the reality is if somebody in your league is willing to pay the same for Bijan Robinson that they're paying for Ash and Genty, well, this gives you a really good baseline. So Fantasy Life plus, especially a big reminder for whatever settings you're playing on, you can get values like that as well. Another thing is that some people might not think of. If you're drafting in a home league, look up the previous drafts and see how your league mates valued some players. And yes, there is inconsistencies year to year in fantasy, but there's also a lot of consistencies that can kind of give away how at least maybe the top 50 might stack.
Jay
Yep. And I think in general in home leagues, I find that the best approach is to throw out the biggest names earliest because people aren't going to let like for instance, I'm like not drafting Saquon in any league basically because I think that his value is basically commensurate to Christian McCaffrey's and I just rather have Christian McCaffrey at price than Saquon. So I'd be throwing out Saquon the first time every time because someone is going to spend $50 on Saquon Barkley, particularly if it's in a home league. It's not like he's not a known brand name. Saquon Barkley. Like people will bid on him. People will allocate a certain amount of their budget to him. So just I think understanding what your league makes the likely to do also like little stuff like knowing who every team that you have league makes support.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Like.
Jay
Right. So if there's a an Eagles fan, then they're more likely to pay up for. If you're in a league with a lot of Eagles fans, then you're more likely to have people overpay for Saquon. Buckley and Jalen hurts at getting back.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
To how Fantasy Life plus can help you. How about player values? Have your own set of player values as well. Like you need to use player tiers is where this is really, really helpful. For instance, look at a positional auction wide receiver. One tier is how I would kind of distinguish this with Fantasy Life Plus. This is an easy way to look at it. Jamar Chase, who's typically in Redraft going As the number one player in fantasy, he's priced here at $66 where CD Lamb, another first round wide receiver, is priced at $50. But then you could look at the difference of a tier 2 wide receiver that you have to Think of it, these guys would obviously, you know, be going in a much different space. Justin Jefferson, I would say has a little bit more variance, but Malik Nabors and Nico Collins, who necessarily aren't first round picks, are priced a little bit lower.
Jay
Yeah, absolutely. And so it is interesting the differentiation in price between Jamar Chase being, you know, essentially 2x the price of Nico Collins. I would much rather have Nico Collins at $34 than Jamar Chase at $66. So yeah, it is all just different ways of conceptualizing value.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
All right, we have a question coming in from Mr. T. He said, what's the most you ever spent on a player, Jay and Connor?
Jay
Well, I think this kind of speaks to the fact that in auction drafts in particular, your natural biases can kind of infect more so than in Snake draft where you can only, I mean you can overreach for a play, but particularly at the top end, there's only so much you can overreach. So I remember 2022. So in 2021 that was the other Jonathan Taylor was like offensive player of the year runner up. I had a big bet on Jonathan Taylor which all the Colts games down the stretch develop this connection to Jonathan Taylor and I really wanted Jonathan Taylor the following year and I think I and he was going as you know, RB1 that season flirting with number one player in fantasy with Cooper Cup. So I think that was like a $70 type of arrangement. But he was so separated from everyone felt. But yeah, that's about what I've maxed out.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Yeah, I've been something similar. One year I got burned by Christian McCaffrey where he was coming off of a top year and you know, he had a lot of these inconsistent injuries now with the Niners. But one year, I mean I was like, you know what, I want the hero back and I'm going to spend top tier budget because I felt like that year I could fill out with more of Tier 3 wide receivers. Going back to our conversation about what a Tier 3 wide receiver looks like beyond. So it just depends. It's all strategy building of a roster and you have the same exact thing in a Snake draft just based on order where this it actually gives you a little bit more power where if you believe in a hero player on your roster, you could spend as much money as you want to get them. The problem with that is like in my situation, that player could be an injury away from burning you because you need that player to carry your roster where you're relying on value throughout. So it's a. It's a really, really good question in a sense that there's times that's going to help you. Like there's going to be people this year, Jay, that are probably like, hey, I'll spend 65 plus on B John Robinson, because I think he's going to be the RB1 in football this year. And if you're right on that bet, didn't really matter how much you spent on it, because if you have the best running back in fantasy, you're most likely going places.
Jay
Yeah. And I think as well, it's just also a matter of your bidding strategy needs to be influenced by just how much people are bidding early on. Like, there are worlds where you're going to be able to get random guys at the end of the auction for a dollar or $2. You should be going for five or six because everyone is shot their budget early on. And then there are other auction drafts where people are going to be very conservative with their money. And then all of a sudden there's a bidding war for Zach Charbonnet at the end of the draft. You just don't know how it's going to unfold unless you're paying attention to just the dynamics of the draft to that point.
Matthew Berry
Right.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
And this kind of brings us to another point that you have to understand positional depth more than ever because you're playing with the budget. Right. When you're playing with picks well, there's times where you can get bailed out a little bit, you know, by just once again the slotted players trickling, where you're like, oh my goodness, I don't have a wide receiver 3. But they're all right in front of me where this one, once again, going back to how your salary cap league is doing bidding, they might be sending a ton of bids at one position that they feel, you know, not so great about. Right. Like tight end this year and quarterback. The first four quarterbacks are going to be bid on high and going to be bid on early. And the same thing can be said about the likes of, you know, we talk about Brock Bowers, George kittle and Trey McBride in this bucket all the time as well, where there's probably going to be a lot of people that say I'm going to actually stay out of the top tier of wide receivers and I'll go get Ricky Pearsall and, you know, Matthew golden and players more in that category later. So positional depth is massive in this.
Jay
Yeah. And I think the biggest variance in auction drafts often comes where when you get to that in terms of like ADP guys going like 100 to 120. And because you know, Tucker Craft, for instance, his on fantasy life, his consensus value is like $12. Like there are a lot of auction drafts with Tucker Craft is going to go for three, four dollars because of just the way that the draft is shaken out. Zach Chardonnay, who I mentioned before, $11, another guy kind of in that range. So I think that's where the variance really sets in because for the most part, like Jamar Chase isn't going to go for less than $50 or anything. Right. So you really do get the variance once you get outside the real top guys.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
For playoffs hopefuls, the last chance awaits. The NASCAR Cup Series closes out the regular season in primetime on the high banks of Daytona tomorrow, 7pm Eastern Time on NBC. And Peacock, we're going to take a break. We got more auction draft strategy and analysis covered for you later. But when we're back, we gotta get into the latest Roto World player news right after this.
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Matthew Berry
Hey, it's Ryan.
Ryan Reynolds
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Matthew Berry
Can you speak to Chris Godman's, you.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Know, possible availability And I guess he's.
Matthew Berry
Taken off the bucket list.
Todd Bowles
He's taking off the PUP list. But he's got to get in football shape and everything else, so I wouldn't expect him to play early on.
Jay
Is there A goal.
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Host (possibly Field Yates)
The ideal return for him?
Todd Bowles
No, just when he's ready. Just when he's ready. I mean, he's been out a long time. He's got to get in football shape. Tristan the same way. But they'll be off, and then we'll see how it goes going forward.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
That was Todd Bowles, head coach of the Tampa Bay Bucs. On Chris Godwin, we got plenty of virtual world player news. Bulls is real. Real jolt. A real jolt of caffeine.
Jay
It must be great behind the scenes, because let me tell you, I'm not ready to run through a brick wall.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
You know what's funny? When he was coaching the Jets, I always ask people, I'm like, is Todd just always just like this all the time? And, like, no. And like, sometimes during halftime, he'll come in and flip a table and scream. And I'm like, so it's just a great switch. That's impressive. He just has that kind of switch with the players. And I mean, players. Every player loves Todd Bowles, loves him.
Jay
The injury updates are great, particularly if he doesn't want to be there. They'll be like, oh, Mike Evans, how's he doing? Hamstring.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Yep.
Matthew Berry
Yeah.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
When he's ready, he's ready. And you know what? I kind of respect it.
Jay
Yeah.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Because he just gets sick of being acid and he doesn't know.
Jay
Yeah. Team plays hard as well. That team always plays hard.
Matthew Berry
Yes.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
There's no denying that. And he honestly, he is being honest here about Chris Godwin, because while they're, you know, Adam Schefter reports, they're going to activate Godwin off the PUP list. He's unlikely to play until October because this is a serious injury. I feel like we found out how serious it was much later on, where they want to actually have a slow ramp up here, which in our world, Jay, is a huge deal, because Mecha Buuka right now is one of the biggest talking points in all of fantasy.
Jay
Yeah. I think the thing with Godwin is that it's not just he's likely going to miss the first month of the season. It's when does he actually get back to being fantasy viable? Because that date is going to be, I think, at least a few weeks past when. When he does return, especially if just how is this going to unfold? Like a mecher. BU is going to get a lot more of the offense than initially anticipated. I think he's going to look good in that role. And then I think he's going to just get sidelined as soon as Chris Godwin comes back. So I think that Chris Godwin now is a distant third in the pecking order of who you want to draft on the Bucks, certainly. And last year, last year Chris Godwin was incredible. He's playing like a top 10 wide receiver on the sport kind of level. But this is a severe injury. It wasn't. I don't think it was supposed to have multiple surgeries and it's required multiple surgeries. So I think the idea that Godwin, who is a player who you know is dependent on burst and speed, that he is going to be back to Chris Godwin this year now seems somewhat unlikely. So I think that he's a guy who can potentially provide value in the back half of the season. But I don't have any real interest in drafting Chris Godwin where he's going now.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Yeah, you're going to have to be really patient. That guy again on the YouTube comments. What's more, Chill J's tracksuit collection or Tod answering any question. It's a battle of the Titans right there. We'll see how it plays out this season. Listen, going back to Abuka here whose ADP has been soaring right now in redraft, he's going around the 105th pick. That's wide receiver 42. Think of the tier that is Cooper Cup, Ricky Pearsall, Juwan Jennings kind of range. When we were talking to Matthew this morning he was saying for him it's at a point where he's going to be closer to ranked as wide receiver 30. I know in his latest rankings he's wide receiver 33 right now, but this is someone in your league. If he's not taking in the first 35 wide receivers, what he can do for you the first five plus weeks of the season and Guillotine is going to be a totally different beast because of a massive impact there can be league altering because even if he cools off with the return of Godwin, you're probably going to have a solution by then.
Jay
Yeah, and I think so. I think what is happening to Travion Henderson's adp, which I think is maybe now gotten a little bit out of control where this guy is being. I don't think they'll expect him to be a workhorse back but he's going around pick 50 now in drafts. I think that that is the rise that should be happening to a Meckwere Ibuka where he should be soaring to similar levels as Travion Henderson. I think There's a reasonable chance just given age profiles that Ibuka could outperform Mike Evans this year. Mike might make Mike Evans the favorite there, but that's in the realm. This guy was drafted pro ready. They spent a first round pick on him for a reason despite having a loaded wide receiver room as is. And this team, you know, they threw the ball a lot last year, a lot of it as well. That made Baker Mayfield succeed was a lot of short stuff, a lot of screens, a lot of design plays like that. So I think that Igbuka, he's going to come in and just from the start be a guy who, you know, produces at a wide receiver to type of level.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Yeah, I think so too. I'm excited about Emeka Buka. He's one of the most pro ready prospects in the draft. We have some breaking news during the show and we've been waiting for this one. The Commanders are officially trading running back Brian Robinson to the 49ers in exchange for a 2026 sixth round pick. So obviously not a big return here for a running back that is I believe, entering a contract year here in Brian Robinson. But J, as somebody who's been super high on Christian McCaffrey, what do you think of the move of the Niners getting some. It feels like they had to have some kind of depth because they were one McCaffrey injury away from like, okay, all our other guys are hurt too and this cost is nothing.
Jay
Yeah, there's one injury away from Isaac Garendo is not ready to be a number one running back for a team that has super bowl aspirations. And even though it's not him specifically, but different variations on the Patrick Taylor experience off of last year. So I think that more this and I don't think this signals anything necessarily.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
About Christian McCaffrey's health not stealing into McCaffrey's.
Jay
Yes, I think it's more just an acknowledgment that, you know, Christian McCaffrey is 20, 29 years old, he's dealt with all these injuries and there is, you know, a material chance that he gets hurt. And if he does get hurt, Brian Robinson is a better option than what they had previously on the roster. And to get him for a 6 round pick guy who's shown, you know, it was produced at a really high NFL level when he's been out there healthy. I think it's just protection against McCaffrey and you know, a different look sometimes. I think like There were games two years ago where McCaffrey's playing but 95% of the snaps and I think that is probably that is not going to repeat, but that's not being baked into his adp. So I don't think this changes much, but certainly makes Brian Robinson the Insurance answer for McCaffrey.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Good comment on YouTube from Julio who said could be to have CMC out more for receptions and B Rob in the backfield. My take on that is if you have a second and two and you want somebody to just smash through the A gap, sometimes you'd like that to be Brian Robinson, where McCaffrey is such a dynamic threat not only as an outside runner but as a receiver, that maybe this is also a way to preserve McCaffrey and actually make his output more efficient and explosive while finding a way to keep him healthy for the long course of a season, not the short term.
Jay
Yeah, I think this is I think Brian Robinson is going to largely play the Elijah Mitchell role from two years ago where right. You know, McCaffrey if it's a 2710 game in the fourth quarter and it's out of hand, but not completely out of hand. You know, previously they might have felt like, oh, we've got to keep Christian in there. Now it's more like, okay, Brian Robinson can get these drives. He's still a reliable running back and a better option than what they had.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Comment section Jumping for joy at the prospects of Bill Crosky Merritt on the Commanders now, which, you know, listen, we can kind of jump to this one here. I mean, we already heard, we heard from Commanders head coach Dan Quinn, who indicated Chris Rodriguez Jr. Is likely to handle short yardage and goal line rushing duties. So I know everybody's really, really excited right now about Bill Crosky, but Jay, it also sounds like Chris Rodriguez isn't going anywhere either, and we've seen this kind of play out with him working in front of Crosby during most of the preseason as well.
Jay
Yeah, I think it's going to be a very frustrating backfield from a fantasy perspective and a very effective one from an NFL perspective where just having Jaden Daniels as your quarterback is such a cheat code for rushing efficiency across the board. Austin Eckler is obviously going to get worked in a ton and I think that week to week it's going to depend a lot on just touchdown variance and getting goal line carries. But I don't think anyone is super appealing in terms of like, I don't think there's going to be any top 12 running back that comes out of Washington this season. There's going to be three guys who are all hyper efficient but with limited usage.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Yeah, I'm with you as well as we have more questions rolling in on all of these guys. This one was B Rob going to the 49ers. Where does that put JCMS ranking and auction cost here? That is From Irish on YouTube.
Jay
I don't think it should change anything because the team was already active. Dankwin's already talking about him though. He doesn't exist.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
He wasn't playing another snap for them and it wasn't even secret.
Jay
Yeah. So I don't think it changes much. Obviously JCM's ADP has soared up 45 spots recently. I think that it's largely being baked in at this point that Brian Robinson wasn't going to be there.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
But to the point here from Fantasy Bandit, he said, I think the Kroski merit hype has gotten completely out of control. I just had a giraffe that he went in the seventh round. I agree. I think JCM is probably a really nice Dynasty asset right now. Tyler Olson in YouTube asked how aggressive is too aggressive on Crosky Meriden Dynasty. I mean, listen, if you get him for what you think will be a late second round pick, I don't think that's nuts because I think this will be his backfield by next year. But I also think if you're taking him in Redraft for this year in the seventh round, I mean, you're going to have to be a little patient. Once again, like Dan Quinn is speaking, they're showing their hand with Chris Rodriguez Jr. They have the veteran and Austin Eckler there. This is a team last year, plenty of times they leaned on veterans in those situations. So I'm a big believer in Bill Crosby's talent and I think that talent ultimately just shines through. But I think you also need to be careful in Redraft because that's a big asset to spend. Where I don't know if we'll give you anything in September. I really don't.
Jay
Yeah, I was in a draft this morning where like he was going ahead of guys like Ramondre Stevenson and Travis Etienne who are, you know, very kind of known commodities, boring players to draft, but also I think are probably going to outperform JCM just because they're starters at the moment. And JCM's role is a bit more clouded in uncertainty. Well, it's not really uncertainty. I just think we just know that he's not going to get workhorse usage.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Yeah. All right, let's get to some. We have Matthew, a little action here. There he is. Mr. The pride of NBC Sports Today. Hello, Matthew.
Matthew Berry
What's up boys?
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Yeah, have you enjoyed the show?
Matthew Berry
Difficulties, some technical difficulties, but happy to finally join you. I've been watching, I've been watching from afar. You know Connor, you've done better than Jay, just so you know.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Thanks Matthew. That's why we're a team.
Matthew Berry
I got you a little bit. Yeah. Evil J. But absolutely you need to keep growing out the, the facial hair. I think you guys are spot on right about that. Like no, like I feel like it's this weird thing where we were like literally the first show under Corey Crosky merit on Bill, literally because Connor, your, your pre draft rankings before the NFL draft of having JCM who a lot of people hadn't even heard of having him ranked ahead of RJ Harvey in your pre draft ranking sort of open the eyes of a lot of people. And so we talked about him and then you know, he lands in Washington. But weirdly as being sort of the first show on jcm, I feel like we, while we're all high on the talent and I agree with you, this is going to be his, his backfield sooner rather than later. I almost feel like the hype's gotten too out of control because to your point, it's going to be a three headed committee initially like Chris Rodriguez, they like who knows the offense, he's been there. I think JCM's talent is significantly more than Chris Rodriguez but they like him and he's not going to just immediately go away. So if you're drafting JCM in the fifth round and I've seen him go in the fifth round, what's happening here is, is that that's he has to hit his peak to earn that value. And so it's, it's weird. I almost like, like I've, I actually have a lot of shares of JCM from Dynasty leagues that I drafted early but now the hype's getting so out of control that you know you like I'm seeing them around the same as like you mentioned Stevenson and Etienne. I've seen him go like in the James Connor, Ken Walker range. Like so I mean look, we love Bill Cross demerit but you know, curb your enthusiasm. As the wise man once said, I don't think Brian Rob, this is, this is a. My take real quickly on Brian Robinson is it's good that we know sort of where he is but you know, this kills his fantasy value. As long as Christian McCaffrey is healthy, he's not going to get any kind of significant snaps. I do think Connor and Jay, you guys tell me if you disagree with this, but I do think that if you're drafting an insurance back for Chris McCaffrey, you prefer Brian Robinson to Isaac Garendo or Jordan James. Who Connor, you and I have already talked about. We sort of like Jordan James. He felt like more of the Kyle Shanahan type running back and now he gets a veteran in Brian Robinson.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Yeah. And the backup running backs have been banged up this summer and Kyle Shanahan needs reliability right now. So the fact, Matthew, that they made the move even at the cost of a sixth round pick for a proven veteran in Brian Robinson, to me, at least for 2025, it writes off both Corindo and Jordan James. Like they will be on the waiver wires and they'll be like that. Unless there's multiple injuries to this backfield.
Jay
Yeah, definitely. I suspect what would probably happen if McCaffrey does go down, which is the only way any of these guys are going to get relevant, is that Brian Robinson's probably the primary early down guy and then the passing game work goes to Garendo or James or something like. I don't think that anyone is going to become a workhorse back and forth, fill the McCaffrey role. Just going back to JCM for a second. The way that I see this Washington backfield now see very much like the 2023 Ravens where it's like Gus Edwards and Keaton Mitchell and Justice Hill and there's no singular guys, just three guys who are all very efficient because they're playing with Lamar Jackson and he's such a cheat code. I think it's going to be similar for, for the commanders. Just where these guys are all going to produce in their limited work, but the work's gonna be too limited to provide, you know, immense fantasy value.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Matthew, here's one for you. At what point is Austin Ekeler just totally overlooked in all of this? To the point where, I mean, just on fantasy Life ADP right now, Echler is in a range that is no man's land. I mean, we're talking about he's being drafted around guys like he is like 1 pick 130 in redraft right now and everybody's talking about Bill, who we love, but Echler still has a massive role in this offense.
Matthew Berry
Massive role and, and a defined role. Like he is going to be the third down back, he's going to be the passing down back. They like to use him, put him in motion and everything like that. And I do look Cliff Kings where he's going to get creative and he's going to get creative not just with Eckler, but Debo Samuel in the backfield as well. So I agree with you, especially if you've lowered expectations. If you're like, look, I'm in a, you know, I'm in a 12 team PPR league where I need like a, you know, a flex guy here. Like, I think he's 10 to 12 points a game. I think he's right there in that range. I think he's going to catch three to four balls. He's going to get, have a, have a shot at like I would think on a, you know, you're, you're projecting, you know, three to four catches a game possibly, you know, somewhere in the 40 to 60 yards a game range and then, you know, a potential shot at a touchdown and maybe he gets you, maybe gets you 15, 20 yards rushing as well. So I agree with you. There's just upside there with Echler, who we've seen be an elite fantasy option fairly recently and when he got in there last year, he was effective. Health is the question, of course with Echler, but I agree with you. I think there's value to be had with Echler, especially if he's going in like the, you know, 12, 13 round. He is one of those guys that just. No one sort of, everyone's just kind of left for dead. Which is insane.
Jay
Yeah.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
For perspective right now, Echler typically going around pick 130 and redrafts. The running backs that are in that similar range are. Nick Chubb is ahead of him, Bashal Tutin, Kareem Hunt, he's in the, you know, almost Blake Corum, Jaden Blue kind of range right now. And like you said, Matthew, a viable fantasy asset, especially if you were looking for somebody to help you out in the flex. By the way, the ton of comments rolling in right now, we have one here from Planet Planetarium Pictures. Planetarium pictures. Nice. Jay, has there been a bigger shake up before fantasy draft weekend ever? It looks like CMC stock down. Echler stock up. Jacori stock up. I'm not as high on, on CMC as you guys and I don't agree with this. I don't think this does anything to his stock.
Jay
Yeah, I don't think it changes anything about Christian McCaffrey. I think this is much more about Isaac Girondo and Jordan James and these guys and the fact that those guys don't represent great options if McCaffrey does go down and they've been banged up in the preseason. And I think look, you can plan for a Christian McCaffrey injury without anticipating that it's definitely going to happen.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Right?
Jay
There's just a like there is just a heightened injury risk with Christian McCaffrey and I think the nine is this move reflects that, but I don't think it changes anything so long as he's.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Healthy and really nice.
Matthew Berry
Yeah, I agree with that Jay. This move is about depth for the 49ers running back room and just answer the question from a bigger shakeup. The only thing I can that immediately came to mind was just sort of Isaiah Pacheco coming out of nowhere for the for the Chiefs. You know, he was again similar to JCM seventh round pick in in this particular case, Pacheco coming out of Rutgers wasn't highly thought of and just had an amazing camp and then just all of a sudden it was just like, oh, he's gonna be the guy. I think about. I think about Kareem Hunt's rookie year where it's same thing in Kansas City where people were really excited but he was going to be in a timeshare with Spencer Ware. If you guys remember Spencer Warehouse. And then midway through the preseason Spencer Ware suffers a tough injury and is out for the year. And Kareem Hunt, who is like this kind of upside rookie that you might want to draft late in drafts or you know, on this, on the bottom part of a committee, all of a sudden now is the lead running back of the Kansas City Chiefs. And so those are the first ones that came to mind. I don't know about you guys, but just to answer Planetarium Pictures pick question.
Jay
My favorite one is when Matt LaFleur came out two years ago and said that rookie Romeo Dobbs has some Devonte Adams in him. And then all of a sudden it's like, oh my God, is Romeo Dobbs the number one wide receiver for Aaron Rodgers coming off an MVP season? Turns out he wasn't really. That never really happened.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
You have to be careful what you buy into. Let's keep the news moving here guys. Some positive news for the rams. As Sean McVay said, Matthew Stafford is back practicing in full this week. We got to hear from Stafford with an update on his back injury.
Matthew Stafford
But as far as what I've done everything under the sun. I feel like obviously our guys here have a great program doing everything we can to try and get to feeling as good as I can, you know done that and just really everything I could possibly do. Done a ton of research, just trying to help myself out and good thing is I feel pretty good last couple days out there practicing was able to do even a little bit more than I thought I was going to be able to do the first day and then just been trying to stack days.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Obviously positive news right now in Rams camp because Jay, we can't imagine this team with this high profile talent wide receiver without Stafford under center.
Jay
Yeah. And I think the way to approach this is to expect that Stafford is likely going to start week one as normal, which I think has always mostly been the expectation with a bit of uncertainty baked in. I just think there's a hugely heightened re injury risk around this. I think it just speaks to the fact that, you know, Stafford is a guy who's been banged up a lot in recent years. Three years ago missing half of the season and it's just a concern like what's the back going to do if Daniel Hunter slams him into the turf? Right one. So that is the real issue. So I think that he's kind of bake in an extra added injury risk there and the ripple effects that it spread to Devonte Adams and Puka Nakura in particular. But it looks like Stafford will at least be out there week one. Matthew.
Matthew Berry
Yeah, which is great news obviously for the entire Rams offense. Not just the obvious ones are Nukua and Devonte Adams, but also just Kyron Williams. Right. I mean again, if Stafford's under there, they're going to be a more efficient offense. They can be in scoring position more often. So this is good news. But it is. Look, Stafford is somebody who's been banged up throughout his career and like, you know, a 38 year old with a, you know, lower back injury that doesn't just go away. So it's something we'll monitor throughout the season.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Another bit of news here, guys. A little bit of a surprising trade. Not that the player was moved, but maybe the cost of it. The Saints acquired wide receiver Devon Vale, who we talked a lot about week to week last year for the Broncos in exchange for a 2026 sixth round pick. But how about a 2027, 2027 fourth round pick? I think the return might have even been a little higher than this. We'll double check that in a second. But Devon Vele, now a much needed addition for this Saints wide receiver room that's dealt with a ton of injuries over the last calendar year. Tyler Schuck, the rookie quarterback who may or may not start Talked about the addition of Vele.
Tyler Schuck
I think we have a lot of those big playability guys that we've had on the roster for a while and I think having somebody that can come in and, you know, be somebody you can, you know, count on in those tough moments is going to be really good.
Matthew Berry
So what do you, what do you.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Do after you find out? Like, did you go watch them?
Tyler Schuck
Like, yeah, yeah, I pulled up some highlights. I was like, all right, let's, let's check this guy out. Trying to see, see what's going on. But yeah, obviously super, super talented, super great stuff from, from him and especially with the year that they had last year being really explosive. So I'm excited to get to work with him, get to know him and I know we're both two older guys ourselves and getting ready to roll.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Broncos got back a fourth round pick for Vale and this wide receiver room with the addition of Pat Bryant, Matthew, they got a little bit crowded. Troy Franklin has had a much better summer over there than his first rookie preseason as well. I think the biggest question is how does this affect both sides, starting with Vale entering a Saints offense that has some room for targets.
Matthew Berry
Yeah, I think this is a wait and see. I mean, I think if you're in a super deep league, he got picked up in a bunch of dynasty leagues that I'm in, but like, I can't imagine drafting Devon Bailey. Like, we don't know how good this offense is going to be. We don't know how many, how much production there's going to be there. Because at the moment at least Rashid Shahid, Chris Olave and Alvin Kamara are healthy. I understand the Saints wanting to have depth that Kellen Moore is just like beyond those guys. It's just there start to become some question marks and so Bailey is a guy that when he's gotten opportunities in Denver has impressed. So I think this is a good NFL move, but fantasy wise, I don't know that it really impacts that much because again, unless there's an injury to one of the Saints guys I just mentioned, I can't imagine starting Valley in anything other than like the crazy deepest, deepest of leagues. And on the Denver side of the ball. You just mentioned it, right? So we, you know, we'll see what happens with Pat Bryant, we'll see what happens with Troy Franklin, but we know Cortland Sutton is the one. I still, I still have, you know, I still carry a flicker of a flame for Marvin Mims, who I just wish could get more, more snaps and more Playing time. Obviously Evan Ingram coming over. There's a big signing free agent. He's going to demand a lot of targets. They've got an improved run game as well, so it clears out some opportunity there in Denver. But I don't know that you can sit here and point to any one thing like, oh, now that Devon Bailey is gone, Troy Franklin to the moon or something like that. I still think other than Sutton and Ingram, it's going to be a wait and see on Denver pass catchers.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Yeah, I completely agree. Another team that's adding wide receiver depth, the 49ers acquired Sky Moore from the Chiefs. Yes, that Sky Moore in exchange for swapping 20, 27 sixth and seventh round picks. This was a reaction to DeMarcus Robinson, another part of their wide receiver depth being suspended three games. Part of the fallout from a misdemeanor DUI charge. Jay, I don't think Skymore really changes anything besides gives them a warm body. Just feels like Ricky Pearsall is built for all the targets in this offense.
Jay
Yeah, I think more than sky, more actually contributing to the 9 is what it mostly signals is just a reminder of how thin that receiver room is at the moment, that it really is Ricky Pearsall and then not a great deal else. At least until Brandon IU gets back. But for now, and also until we get clarity on exactly what's going on with Juwan Jennings, who I guess is okay, but I'm not entirely sure what's happening there. And so until I you gets back in the pass game, it's going to be Pierce, all Kittle Jennings when He's right and McCaffrey.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Yeah. Matthew, I feel like this move just kind of solidifies how narrow the target share is that they went out and got Sky Moore rather than going out and getting somebody that would have any impact for sure.
Matthew Berry
I mean, I. Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, you're going to wait. We have to wait and see. To me, Juwan Jennings is the biggest question mark. I have no idea if Juwan Jennings is out for the next six games, if, if he's never gonna play or if he's there week one and plays 75% of the snaps. Like, I, I feel like we've just gotten no news whatsoever on Juwan Jennings and we just have no concept. I've drafted a lot of Ricky Pierce hall over the last week. You know, it feels like. It feels like the target tree is going to be that like in week one. Unless we get definitive news about Juwan Jennings. You're Only going to feel good about in terms of people that could catch the ball. Pearsall Kittle, Christian McCaffrey. All right, but Skymore is somebody that had a lot of talent, just could never kind of figure it out in Kansas City. They had a lot of mouths to feed, but. So it's sort of interesting. But I don't know that there's a fantasy move here other than the fact that, yeah, they're super thin at wide receiver there in San Francisco and they're.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Just trying to fortify another bit of wide receiver buzz. This move hasn't happened yet, but Adam Schefter reports the Vikings have inquired about a trade for Adam Thielen. Old friend Adam Thielen from the Panthers here, Matthew, with everything going on in Minnesota with their pass catchers right now, of course, Jordan Addison serving a three game suspension. Jalen Naylor dealing with a hand injury. As Schefter's tweet says, it feels like this is actually a pathway for Thielen to become fantasy viable at his age immediately.
Matthew Berry
This is a trade that makes so much sense on both sides. I hope this happens. Right. We like Adam Thielen, friend of the podcast, he's been on the show, he's awesome and he knows that system, obviously. And not that he has any sort of connection with JJ McCarthy, but I think he would fit right in. I think he would be a nice compliment to Justin Jefferson, to even Jordan Addison when he comes back here. We like Jalen Naylor a little bit, but you've got Hawkinson as well. Like, certainly if Adam Thielen is a member of the Minnesota Vikings, he suddenly becomes fantasy viable. And I think it would be good for the Panthers as well because at least from our point of view, like, it just makes sense from their point of view, just like they need to get the young guys right, the Panthers, you know, Adam Thielen's been a great addition to them, but like, this is a young team that needs to sort of grow with Bryce Young, where they've got T. Mac, they've got Xavier Legate, Tavian Sanders are waiting for him. And so I think this would open up more targets potentially for Xavier Legette because we know T. Mac is going to get his this year. So I'm really hoping this trade happens and I think that if it does, if it, if it happens before we get back on the air Monday, if it happens over the weekend and you're having a draft trying to figure out where you're drafting Adam Thielen, I think he's like in the 10th round, I think he's a, I think he's a wide receiver four or five in that range with some upside, you know. And I prefer him obviously more in PPR than I do in, in Redraft. But like he's, he's in that, you know, that kind of 10th, 11th round range of wide receivers. You guys can pull up the, the Fantasy Life ADP and talk about other wide receivers that are in that range. I I'm talking on. Because of the, I'm talking on the computer I would normally draw, you know, use up. I would call up the FantasyLife.com website because, because of, of our technical difficulties.
Jay
Indeed, I do think this speaks to the thinness of the room with these injuries and the fact that I think a sneaky thing this year is that so last season the Vikings, they had the third highest pass rate over expectation. The only two teams the pass more relative to expectation of, you know, down and distance were the teams that had Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes. And the Vikings were third with Sam Darnold and Kevin o'. Connell. This offense is very friendly to passing the ball. Kirk Cousins threw the ball a ton as well in that offense. I think this team's going to run the ball a lot more this year. I think the bringing Jordan Mason signaled that intent. I think investing a lot of resources on the interior of the offensive line. Like I don't think that this is going to be a team that just has J.J. mcCarthy drop back 40 times. And so yeah, if Thielen is there and Jordan Addison's out the first three weeks, absolutely. Just because someone's going to catch passes in the offense. But I do think this offense is going to lean much more to the.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Run this you totally agree with you. That's why I was on the under for J.J. mcCarthy's passing yards being at 3,600, it's not. Not believing in McCarthy. It's understanding how they want to construct the offense and set them up for success. Matthew, you missed.
Matthew Berry
Well also, by the way, just again, Jamie McCarthy is a rookie coming off a series injury and what do you do? Like if you can run the ball effectively, that takes pressure off of J.J. mcCarthy. One last thing, I'll just say before we get off of Minnesota, I think we're sort of all sleeping on Jordan Addison. I get it, he's missing three games, but that's baked into his price right now and he continues to drop. And if Thielen comes over, it'll drop even more. Jordan Addison is Good. Like Connor, I thought he had a great rookie year. I thought he looked the part and now. So, yes, okay, fine, you don't have him for the first three games, but by the way, the first three games, there are no buys. You should be able to replace them in your lineup pretty easily. And then you'll have, you know, you'll have the number two wide receiver on what we think is a pretty good offense. I think Addison, I think we're just all sleeping on Addison. I think people are worried too much about the suspension. It's not ideal, but you should be able to handle it in like the first three games when there's no buys.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
I think that's really fair. Addison, in 15 games last year had 875 yards and he catches touchdowns. He had nine touchdowns. You're looking at 1,000 yard receiver across a full season. You look at the ADP right now. I mean, he's in the conversation behind Roma Dunes and Jerry Jeudy and slightly in front of Chris Godwin, Deebo, Samuel, Jacoby, Myers. So if you could just survive those three games, you're getting much better value at cost with Jordan, Addison. Matthew, we miss you. When we were talking salary cap drafts and we'd love some of your expertise on that as our YouTube comments were firing on full cylinder during that opening segment.
Matthew Berry
Yeah, just, you know, a couple of sort of basic things, right? Which is that I think it's important to go into a salary cap draft without any specific strategy around, oh, I've got to get this player. I've got to get this player. Because what happens in a salary crop draft, there are always, there's always value. It just depends on where it is. Sometimes it's at the very beginning, something, you know, somebody throws out Saquon Barkley and, you know, Saquon Barkley should be going for, you know, $50 and he winds up at like 38 or 40. Because people are like, I'm saving my money for Genti, or I'm saving my money for. For Bijan. Bijan, I should say. And so it's weird, right? Or sometimes it happens in the middle where some people spend their money early, some people are saving it till late, and then there, there's a lull in the middle, or everyone spends their money early and values come, but there is always values. The important part is waiting and just being able to pounce. What I like to do when I go through a draft, when I set up for a salary crap draft, say you have a $200 salary cap, right? And so I like to literally just super simple on a piece of paper put down, like what, what my roster will look like, right? Quarterback, two running backs, two wide receivers, three wide receivers, whatever it is, tight end, however many flexes you have, how many bench you have. And then I'll put. Then I'll just sort of budget it out. I want. I want at least one elite running back, and so I'll budget $55 for that. I make up numbers. I'm going to go cheap at tight end, so I'm going to budget $15 for tight end. I'm going to go mid tier at quarterbacks of $25. I'm making up numbers here. But you do it all that you just sort of write it down. RB1 is 55, RB2 is 40. I want to have two strong running backs, that kind of thing. And so just as you go through and you acquire players, I like to just like, okay, I have $55 for an RB one, but I wind up, you know, I wind up getting Devon h. Hand for 48. Okay, great. So now I've got seven extra dollars to play with and I can move it to another position or conversely again to a bidding ward for Ash. And Genti ends up going for 61. So now I've got to find $6 elsewhere. It just sort of helps you keep track of what you're trying to budget for and where you are. The other quick strategy piece that I have is that if there's a player you really want, I like to throw him out early because you know what? Figure out whether you're going to get him or not. Too many people I see, and they're like, oh, I want to hold on to, in my case, Amari and Hampton. I'm going to wait, and I'm going to wait. So everyone spends their money and then I'm going to throw. People know who Amari and Hampton is. You're not going to sneak him by everyone. And so I'm making up a number, but let's say I budgeted $40 for amari and Hampton. Well, then if I wait and wait and wait and I bypass all these other running backs, and then it gets to me, and then there's two other crazy Omarion Hampton fans in there, and he ends up going for like 55, and I'm just like, I, well, now I'm out. Well, then all these other people have passed me by, and now I've got a pivot and I've got. I've got $55 for players that aren't worth that. Right. And. Or, you know, whatever. $40 for players that aren't worth that. So I think it's just important. I'd rather throw out Amarian Hampton or Ash and Genty or Malik Neighbors, whoever. Your guy that you really want is early to see if I'm in on him or not. And if I get him, great. But if I'm not, then I can pivot. I know how much money I have. You see some of the. The Fantasy Life plus player values right here. If you buy a subscription to Fantasy Life plus promo code ROTO20, we have and we have an auction generator that. A value generator that you can put in whatever your scoring system is, whatever your salary cap is. And it will generate values for you specific specifically to your. To your league based on settings. And you can even adjust it like, I want to go 0 RB. I want to go. I want to go. You know, I want to go whatever. I got to wait on tight end. I want to cheap on Titan, whatever your sort of salary cap there is. So that those are just some kind of quick, easy tips that I like to like to do right there. I'm also a big believer in sort of $1 bench or $3 bench because there comes a point where everyone is sort of the same value. And so I'd rather my money go to the majority of my starters. And like, there comes a point where they're all sort of equal and whatever. Let people knock themselves out and I'll just get dollar players or, you know, $3 players, $5 players on my bench.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
And once again, a reminder there from Fantasy Life plus that you could see a lot of different examples of having a baseline price, which is really, really helpful. As Jay and I went through, we had a comment here from Adel Alavi. $200 budget. Would you keep Jaden at $7 or Bowers at $6 half point PPR, standard roster size with an additional wide receiver, tight end spot. What do you think here, Matthew?
Matthew Berry
Yeah, that's a really tough one. But I think since it doesn't sound like you can get, you know, that you get extra points for the title, I think I'm keeping Jaden Daniels. And that's not the homer talking. I just think about who's going to. You know, it's hard to know what court you're a better judge of what your league goes. So who do you think goes for more? They're basically the same price. So just if you were to throw both players back, who. Which would go for more money and that's the guy you keep. My suspicion is is that Jaden Daniels goes for more money than Brock Bowers. But I could be wrong on that again. It just sort of depends on with an additional wide receiver tight ends, but you can play a wide receiver there. I don't know. I just, you know, I think having an elite quarterback for $7 like Jaden Daniels and Bowers is a great price too. I don't think he can screw it up. So but to me it's just like, you know your is your lead quarterback crazy or do you think Bowers goes for more? So it's really about your specific league.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
We're going to take our last break. When we're back. Last call is coming up next. Our picks to win the AFC east and maybe a pick to finish in last or first place right after this.
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Jay
Is Matthew Going.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Here'S the odds board for the very competitive AFC east with the bills as a minus 330 favorite. Jay, you have anything creative here?
Jay
Not really. Bills minus 330 for me. If I was going to take a long shot though, it would be the dolphins at 10 to 1. They did go 11 and six last time. Tua was fully healthy. By the way, Matthew, I love the attire. I wasn't sure if you worked at NBC Sports based off of the T shirt.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Good confirmation.
Jay
The hat confirms it.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Yeah, I mean, I'm taking the chalk here as well. I would never bet on this number at minus 330, but I think the Bills win this division. I do think the Dolphins are a team that. Yeah, like you said, they could come in first. There's a good chance they also finish in last and Mike McDaniel is looking somewhere else. Matthew, what do you got?
Matthew Berry
Yeah, listen, I'm a company man is what I got here. I agree with you guys. It's the Bills. It's probably not a bet I would take because the odds. But if I had to add one, why not if you're going to throw a long shot? How about the jets at 191 if that jets shows up? If Justin Fields becomes a thing and suddenly half the Bills get Burke, you never know. All right, listen, it's closing down. You don't have to go home, but can't stay here for Connor.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
J.
Matthew Berry
Sorry about the technical difficults. We're back on Monday. Good luck weekend this weekend.
Host (possibly Field Yates)
Peace.
Episode: Best Salary Cap Strategy + Latest Trade Reaction
Date: August 22, 2025
This episode dives deep into salary cap (auction) draft strategies, tackles the latest fantasy-relevant player news—including major trades and injury updates—and offers actionable advice, including live listener questions. The tone is lively, banter-filled, and packed with practical insight, as Matthew Berry joins the show with Field Yates (host), Jay, and Connor. The crew reacts to NFL preseason developments, evaluates shifting player values, and debates how to approach draft trends and league dynamics.
[03:30–15:00]
Jay: “The main thing is just fairness and having access to every player... I think the main negative is just that one. It just takes a long time.” (05:20)
Host/Field Yates: “I would think that it's one of those that you probably hate your league mates by the time it's done and you're going to need a couple of days to like them again...” (05:20)
[06:09–14:49]
Jay: “I would much rather have Nico Collins at $34 than Jamar Chase at $66. So yeah, it is all just different ways of conceptualizing value.” (10:27)
[10:45–14:49]
Jay: “Your natural biases can kind of infect more so than in Snake draft... I remember 2022... had a big bet on Jonathan Taylor and I really wanted Jonathan Taylor the following year and... that was like a $70 type of arrangement.” (10:54)
[13:16–14:49]
Jay: “The variance really sets in... for the most part, like Jamar Chase isn't going to go for less than $50 or anything. Right. So you really do get the variance once you get outside the real top guys.” (14:12)
[16:16–26:26]
Jay: “I think the idea that Godwin... is going to be back to Chris Godwin this year now seems somewhat unlikely... I don't have any real interest in drafting Chris Godwin where he's going now.” (18:00)
Host: “...Niners getting some... depth because they were one McCaffrey injury away from... all our other guys are hurt too and this cost is nothing.” (20:57)
Jay: “It's going to be a very frustrating backfield from a fantasy perspective and a very effective one from an NFL perspective...” (24:00)
[26:38–30:21]
Matthew Berry: “I almost feel like the hype's gotten too out of control... curb your enthusiasm. As the wise man once said... that's (drafting him in the fifth round) he has to hit his peak to earn that value.” (27:12)
[30:21–32:51]
Matthew Berry: “He is going to be the third down back... I think he's 10 to 12 points a game. I think he's right there in that range... There's just upside there with Echler, who we've seen be an elite fantasy option fairly recently...” (30:47)
Jay on Salary Cap Drafts (05:20):
“The main thing is just fairness... you can really investigate every single player... It takes a long time.”
Matthew Berry on Value Pockets (46:36):
“There is always value, it just depends on where it is... Sometimes it happens in the middle or everyone spends their money early and values come, but there is always value. The important part is waiting and just being able to pounce.”
Matthew Berry’s Auction Prep Advice (46:36):
“Super simple: on a piece of paper put down... your roster, and budget it out. I want at least one elite running back... budget $55... So as you go through, you acquire players, keep track... Helps you keep track of what you're trying to budget for and where you are.”
Connor on JCM Mania (28:54):
“If you're drafting JCM in the fifth round... he has to hit his peak to earn that value. I've seen him go with James Connor, Ken Walker... curb your enthusiasm as the wise man once said.”
The episode offers both macro strategies for dominating salary cap drafts and micro reactions to the latest shifting NFL rosters. Takeaways include the importance of league-specific tendencies, emphasizing tier-based budgeting, being wary of training-camp hype, and remembering value in overlooked veterans like Ekeler. The crew’s chemistry brings both practical advice and light-hearted banter, making this a must-listen for fantasy diehards ramping up draft season.