November 21: Matthew (@MatthewBerryTMR), Jay (@croucherJD), and Connor (@ConnorJRogers) reflect on the performances of Josh Allen, Nico Collins, and Woody Marks on Thursday Night Football, then discuss injury updates for Joe Burrow, Bucky Irving, Chris Godwin, and Josh Jacobs. Denny Carter also stops by to highlight Michael Wilson and Luther Burden III in “Flexual Frustrations” before Matthew, Jay, and Connor answer multiple start/sit questions from the Regulars. The show concludes with Jay and Connor pitching Matthew on a Derrick Henry and Breece Hall prop on Sunday.
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Jay
Nerd.
Connor Rogers
That's right. Exactly.
Jay
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Connor Rogers
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Jay
And changed it from Star Trek to.
Connor Rogers
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Jay
That looks weird.
Connor Rogers
I don't like that at all. That's how you do it.
Matthew Berry
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Connor Rogers
That's how you do it. Live long and prosper. Connor's. Come on, Lawrence.
Jay
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Connor Rogers
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Jay
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Matthew Berry
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Connor Rogers
Fantasy Football Happy Hour with Matthew Berry.
Jay
Happy Friday. Welcome to the Fantasy Football Happy Hour. What the hell do I miss on Thursdays?
Matthew Berry
Well, Lawrence Jackson really submarines from the start with wearing a Zach Wilson shirt for no reason whatsoever.
Connor Rogers
No reason.
Matthew Berry
And a Houston Astros cap. I asked him on air, who's Jeremy Pena? Never heard of him. World Series.
Jay
That's his brand.
Matthew Berry
Yeah.
Jay
He wears a Braves hat every day. He knows Ronald Acuna.
Matthew Berry
At least he's from Atlanta, though. Yeah, the Houston Astros angle.
Connor Rogers
And by the way, he is somebody that has worn a Shedur Sanders jersey on this show maybe five times over the course of the year. Something like that. Between pregame and happy hour. And like, if ever there was a day for Lawrence Jackson to wear a Shadow Sanders jersey, it was yesterday. He's been named the starter, he hasn't done anything bad yet.
Jay
Bailing.
Connor Rogers
Right.
Matthew Berry
Here's the thing, though. Lawrence is playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers. Now is the time to abandon shadow so no one can remember before he gets sacked by Max Crosby. The Browns are like four point dogs in Vegas. The market thinks Chado is terrible. It's going to be interesting.
Jay
We got questions rolling in. Jay Woogie. Why did Jay actually shake Barry's hand like that?
Matthew Berry
It's a great question. It's a great emoji.
Connor Rogers
I'll tell you why Jay Woogie. Because Jay played along. Yeah. Like he's on. We're on tv. He's playing along. It was a bit. There you go. Welcome to showbiz. Jay Woogie.
Matthew Berry
To be fair, Jay Woogie was a mistake. I wouldn't do it again. And if I could walk it back, I would. Despite its benefits for television.
Connor Rogers
Let's get into football.
Jay
It's a Friday. Wow. Crazy to hear you say that. It's a Friday. We're going to answer your questions and what's on tap. Dr. Denny Carter will be in the house for your flexible frustrations. Jay and I pick up lines for Matthew. Before we do any of that, let's get into the football. The Roto World player news from Houston's upset win over the Bills with Davis Mills. Yes. 30 Davis Mills. Right now as we look at the notable fantasy performances. James Cook at the top that long run really set the table for his night, honestly. Khalil Shakira more by volume. And then a lot of Texans. Christian, Kirk, Jaden Higgins way more involved now. Nico Collins didn't get the 10 points. Matthew and Josh Allen under 10 is really the story of this game.
Connor Rogers
This was a. This was a really good football game that was just awful for fantasy. Basically I felt like James Cook. James Cook did better than I think people expected him to, to be honest. You know, like, you know, to your own. The big. That. That big run gave the touchdown. But listen, 100 yards and a touchdown against the Texans defense, which entered the week as the number one run defense in the NFL. Like, okay, like, you know, you. So I think Cook. Awesome. And Shakur, you know, again, they were in comeback mode the entire game. And so, you know, this is a trend that we have seen before, guys that the. That slot receivers against the Texans or players that are in the middle of field often do well because Lassiter and Stingley. Stingley, sorry, Derek Stingley are so good on the outside. Right. So none of that is surprising. The shocking thing to me is Josh Allen. Like, I'm pretty sure that's Josh Allen's worst fantasy game of his career.
Matthew Berry
Yeah, well, there's two things. One, I don't know why you still keep calling Khalil Shakir like his last name is Tupac.
Jay
I take the same thing every time.
Connor Rogers
What did I say, Shakur?
Matthew Berry
You say Tupac Shakur. Khalil Shakur. It's Shakir.
Connor Rogers
I apologize, Mr. Shakir.
Matthew Berry
Yeah, that's okay.
Connor Rogers
I apologize. 110 yards. Nice day for Mr. Shakir.
Matthew Berry
We're only four minutes into the show. The only way is up. Secondly, Josh Allen against the Texans.
Connor Rogers
That sounds like a challenge.
Jay
Bad thing to say, to be fair.
Matthew Berry
To Josh Allen and the idea that it was his worst, maybe it was the worst game statistically. He also went 9 for 30 against the Texans last year, which people forget because it was early on in the season. He completed nine of 30 passes against them and then went on to go and win mvp. It's just seems like a difficult matchup for Josh Allen. It's a difficult matchup for almost everyone. Will Anderson was out of his mind. I don't think that you're downgrading Josh Allen going forward. I think it's just tough matchup and you'll snap out of it. It's just generally Connor is like, is there a better defense than Houston's right now?
Jay
That's the thing. You're not downgrading Josh Allen for the rest of the season. You're downgrading who has to play the Texans because their edge pass rush is amazing. Their corners on the outside are awesome. They're really well called with d'. Amico. Ryan's.
Matthew Berry
The funny thing is though, you know, kind of torched the Texans. Sam, Donald and jsn, they did whatever they wanted through the air. Jason's completely out of his mind. Maybe you wide receiver to have a matchup. They had no answer for him whatsoever. Right now. He went for like 8 for 129 and could have had 200. So that is a little oddity there. But.
Connor Rogers
But to your point about who plays the Texans next, you know who plays the Texas Indianapolis Colts.
Matthew Berry
We got two games against them.
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
Matthew Berry
For the shoe for the AFC south, potentially, by the way, to add on to kind of in the same vein as Bengals, afc, Houston Texans. Their odds to win the super bowl, some places hovering around 100 to 1. That team with that defense, Stroud coming.
Connor Rogers
Back should not be 100 to 1.
Jay
Right.
Matthew Berry
They have a lot of upside.
Jay
We've seen defenses like this carry teams all the way. This is as good of a defense as I've seen in a while. Yeah. Right. So Stroud's been in there before.
Matthew Berry
Yep.
Jay
That is. That is deep. Maybe that's your pickup line. Maybe Texans to win the Super Bowl. What do you think?
Connor Rogers
Probably going home with you regardless of whatever because you know. But the AFC is certainly wide open a little bit. Davis Mills, like it's never pretty but since becoming the starting of week 10, he's the seventh best quarterback in fantasy football. Whatever. Not a pedestrian fantasy day for him in this one. Just 14 and a half fantasy points for Davis Mills. You know, 153 yards against the two passing touchdowns. But still like did enough. Thanks. Along with the defense to sort of get the win. I don't know that I don't feel like that much better about the Texans pass catchers with CJ Stroud in there. It doesn't feel like yeah, Nico could have had a better day here. That's probably the goal you'd feel better about. You'd feel better about with Stroud for Nico. But Nico had been really good prior to this. Prior to this game. I mean just three targets. 11% target share for Nico Collins. He did catch all three passes. Three for 55. You see it there on your screen. My best bet yesterday was Nico Collins to lead the game in in receiving yards. That went to Khalil Shakir.
Matthew Berry
Yes.
Connor Rogers
And I saw that bet lost. Tough game for all of us on the desk in terms of the betting as well. Josh Allen did not hit his rushing prop.
Matthew Berry
To be fair. If he had it, he should have. He should have been running for his life more than he was just having to sit back.
Jay
The play got hurt on especially.
Matthew Berry
Yeah.
Jay
He was like. He was like crow hopping to throw and he should just take it off.
Matthew Berry
Yeah. The one thing with Nico anyway, like the usage is not great. We'll see how it changes with straight with Stroud next week. Going forward he can only go up. But he was like the fingertip of Cole Bishop away from potentially like breaking that 50 yard touchdown play that he got the wind knocked out of him and kind of the momentum carried him. If Cole Bishop doesn't get his shoelaces there. We're thinking about Nico Collins a bit differently. But yeah, overall I still, I don't think you feel good about any of the secondary Texans pass catches outside of kind of Dalton Schultz who is what he is at this point. But yeah, these guys like Higgins and Noel, they'll have moments. But Kirk certainly can't trust them Week to week.
Connor Rogers
Christian Kirk had only a 42% route participation. It's only his second game this season with the seven points. I know he had, you know somewhat a big game here but it's really like it's the touchdown, you know, he basically had one big play and he was targeted. To his credit he was targeted a decent amount. When he's out there. He just wasn't out there that much. Again, 42% raw participation. Didn't play a ton of snaps. I feel like you can sort of ignore Christian Kirk. You're still starting Nico Collins. I think Woody Marks is a more interesting conversation. Since week 10 he's out snapped Nick Chubb 139 to 38. He's got 90%, 80%. I'm sorry 80% of the Texans red zone rush attempts in that spanned. And yet he's been under eight fantasy points in three of the last four games. He hasn't seen a double digit target share since week eight. It's super weird. Like he's getting the usage. It's just not turning into fantasy points.
Matthew Berry
Yeah, I think Connor and be interested for your thoughts on this. To me, the Texans, they play offense like they know they have the best defensive 100%. They just put the queue in the rack in the second half. Davis Mills I thought was really good in the first half and then second I was like no, we are going to win this game by one score and line our defense.
Jay
They're okay grinding out games because the defense is that good. The way they can control the field all the time because they get teams on three and out all the time. You're right. And that's the identity of defensive coaches. Like they have that if we get to 20 points we'll probably win the game mindset, which is not good for fantasy but it's very good for the Texans right now. That showed they can literally beat anybody.
Connor Rogers
Yeah. As it relates to Woody Marks though in theory though, a system like that would favor the running back. We're going to try to grind it out. We're just going to try to run the ball.
Jay
But their line isn't good enough for that.
Connor Rogers
That's right.
Jay
They're just, they're not talented enough. There's nothing schematically they can do to overcome that.
Matthew Berry
Yeah. Could actually be a good matchup for Houston against the Colts, a Colts team that's now built around its three star cornerbacks. Like. Well, Houston's only got one receiver. So is your defensive kind of construction all that valuable? And The Colts I think will be a team that can be run on without the forest Buckner in there. But yeah, Woody Marks is certainly. He is usurped Nick Chubb as the lead guy in the backfield but there's not really any explosives. There's not huge gaps being created. And he is not I don't think at the level of player to overcome his context not being suboptimal in terms of the blocking. But yeah, I think he's a viable low end RB to high end flex guy each week. Woody Marks and that's about it.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, I think it's actually. I think it's probably a lower end flex guy just because it's. It's. The usage is there. The production hasn't been. Last thing I want to talk about from this game is we sort of started at the top with Josh Allen just I mean proud fantasy life investor Josh Allen. We love Josh Allen here we are a pro Josh Allen show. But single digit fantasy points. First time since week four of last season. Second game this year without a touchdown. That was week two. Pressured on 40% of his drop backs. Eight sacks as well. Just absolutely crushing 8.1 fantasy points in this one. I'm in a guillotine league with all the people on the Dan LeBatard Show. I do a weekly appearance on the Dan LeBatard Show. Shout out to our friends at DLS our comrades here on. On Peacock.
Jay
That's right.
Matthew Berry
A lot of Russians speak lately. Why not comrades?
Connor Rogers
Maybe I'm a Russian agent.
Jay
Your country won't be in the Olympics.
Matthew Berry
This year so no one would ever suspect you would be a massive reveal.
Connor Rogers
Well, I like chicken nuggets too much. I think I have a truly American diet. But here's what I would say. So our colleagues maybe is a better way to say on that on Peacock.
Matthew Berry
J. Nyet.
Connor Rogers
Let me finish.
Jay
You were a Russian agent this whole time?
Matthew Berry
This whole time.
Connor Rogers
Man.
Jay
You really held on year four of this show. How many years did you do stuff at the other network?
Connor Rogers
I mean.
Jay
And it finally. It finally took a non American to figure it out. That's the best part.
Connor Rogers
Yeah. Mr. Spock, over here.
Matthew Berry
This is to the charade.
Jay
Yes, exactly.
Connor Rogers
This is vodka. Anyway. What I will.
Matthew Berry
Yeah, yeah.
Connor Rogers
Here you go.
Jay
Who do you think you are? Good to see you in the chat. No Russian would consume as much diet coke as Goat Berry.
Connor Rogers
It's fair. Except I put vodka in it. So you know.
Matthew Berry
Vodka.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, Diet and vodka. All right. What I was gonna say about Josh Allen though is that I'm In a guillotine league with the. With everyone on the Dan LeBatard Show. And we're down to two. It's me and Chris Cody, the producer. And so it's literally like we have. Yeah, we got all the good players. We both have ridiculously loaded teams. My quarterback is Josh Allen. Of course, that's me.
Jay
And ours.
Connor Rogers
Yeah. Oh, you're down.
Jay
It's down to five of us. Right. You're in it.
Matthew Berry
I'm still hanging out. Yeah.
Jay
It's me, you, producer Pete, and I forget who the last two are.
Matthew Berry
That doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
Jay
But there's a good chance I'm gonna. I'm assuming I'm probably gonna be cut by the ball.
Connor Rogers
It's just.
Matthew Berry
Sure.
Jay
A lot of people are.
Connor Rogers
Oh, yeah. It's just. It's a crushing. Like crushing defeat again because we play some H men coverage and they're. We thought the Josh Allen rushing would hit and just the idea that he's not going to throw any touchdown passes or run for one, just shocking to me.
Matthew Berry
Kind of one of the snake a.
Connor Rogers
Week after being like the fantasy player of the year. So. Sorry to interrupt, but I was just going to. But that. But because of this, Connor, because of you and because of me and because of everyone, Josh Allen managers drink for free today. Absolutely. Like, you are starting off the week in a big hole. So the least we can do is buy a vodka.
Jay
You know, serve one up.
Connor Rogers
Serve one up with Diet Coke on.
Jay
The side, if you prefer.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, exactly right. Exactly right. Hail mother rusher.
Matthew Berry
Yeah. By the way, I went to Russia like 10 years ago.
Connor Rogers
Did you really? Yeah.
Matthew Berry
And I was.
Connor Rogers
That's how you sussed me out.
Matthew Berry
Yeah. And I was stunned to see in bars in Moscow and St. Petersburg, you know what kind of hookah they serve. Absolute. Which is strange really, which is why this is such a letdown.
Jay
Perplexing.
Connor Rogers
That's shocking. Okay.
Matthew Berry
Stunning. Anyway, back to Josh Allen Allen's fantasy performance. I think kind of one of the most underrated things, maybe under discussed things of the season is that last year Josh Allen for the whole year took 14 sacks. Yeah, he took eight last night. And this wasn't a one week thing. He's been taking a ton of sacks this year. He's been below average on the season in terms of SAC rate. Now it's the same offensive line, basically.
Jay
I think Dawkins had a rough night.
Matthew Berry
He had a rough one. And right tackles. Well, it does. Brown had to leave the game.
Jay
Brown left the game.
Matthew Berry
And Vandermark came in, which wasn't ideal either. But Allen just. He. I think it's combo offensive line a bit worse. Weapons not separating. Coleman is literally being made in action.
Jay
Play calling is stale.
Matthew Berry
Play calling is stale. And Josh just doesn't quite look at.
Jay
The same level he's trying to be. He's falling back into I have to be Superman.
Connor Rogers
That's exactly what he is. It is. It's. It just feels like. And I'm sure this will be addressed in the off season if the Bills don't make it to the Super Bowl. And at the moment, it doesn't look like they're gonna. They're teams that are strong in the afc, but like, it just. It does feel like it's Josh Allen and a bunch of guys. It's just like, hey, here, let's. We're going to surround. And they are wasting the prime. Like they. They've got a generational quarterback. They've got a generational quarterback and like you're not. But he doesn't have a Travis Kelce. He doesn't have a Tyree kill. Like he doesn't have some of the weapons that Patrick Mahomes has had. He doesn't have a jamar chaser. T. Higgins, Josh Palmer. Right? That's right. He's got Khalil Shakir.
Matthew Berry
Who?
Connor Rogers
Khalil Shakir should be a nice role player. Stop it. Now you're just screwing with me. Nyet.
Jay
Stephen wants us to get out of this game so badly. He's asked me for the last seven minutes.
Connor Rogers
Shakir Shakir is somebody that should be like a nice role player, not your leading receiver. Yes, that's exactly my point. Is my point.
Jay
Anyway, I do have one last question this game, Jay. If the Texans keep winning, can will Anderson win Defensive player of the Year?
Matthew Berry
I think he's gone past Micah Parsons as the number one challenger to Myles Garrett, which saddens me as I have a lot of Micah Parsons. But I think the reality is Tekkens have the number one defense right now. By most measures, Anderson is two sacks ahead of Parsons. The issue is Myles Garrett has 15 sacks in 10 games and is the best defensive player of his generation having the best season of his career. So I think that Garrett will have to slow down. The issue with Garrett slowing down is he's about to play Geno Smith and Cam Ward. I think Garrett will likely just win.
Jay
Not a great bet.
Matthew Berry
I think Will Anderson is now the second most likely to win that award and he was magnificent last night.
Connor Rogers
And for people that are holding Josh Allen for MVP tickets. Should they do what you did with your Saints tickets? Your Saints playoff tickets?
Matthew Berry
Yeah, not quite. Don't throw them in the bin, but put them next to the bin. Put them bin adjacent because Allen. Now, I think that Stafford and May set a pretty high bar for that award. And if you want to beat those guys, I think it's now at the point where, like, you have to win every game. Like, if Josh Allen, he has to run the slate, he's going to win six games and then have Stafford not get the one seed. So I think he drifted out to 15 to one range to an MVP. I think that's pretty fair.
Jay
Jonathan Medici. Barry is the Baba Yaga of fantasy.
Matthew Berry
I don't know that reference.
Connor Rogers
I don't either, because I'm definitely not Russian.
Jay
Good defense. All right, let's get into the injuries we're tracking because there's a lot, and they're very, very important right now. Jackson Dart will not be ruled out of concussion protocol. He's not starting. It'll be Jameis Winston again.
Connor Rogers
So another Jameis week.
Jay
Another Jameis Week. No dart for the second week in a row. Daniel Jones. A calf injury popped up on the report at the end of this week. It was not that way Wednesday, so keep an eye on that. Aaron Rodgers with his wrist. Josh Jacobs with his knee injury. Jalen.
Connor Rogers
But he did Jacobs. Just real quickly. Jacobs did participate in individual drills yesterday. Like, he was at practice yesterday. Again, as we talked about this.
Matthew Berry
Oh, yeah.
Connor Rogers
All right. We got the rundown Fine. I'm just saying, like, we always move off the injuries full screen too quickly.
Matthew Berry
By the way, Baba Yaga is a female character from Slavic folklore who fries and eats children and is often associated with forest wildlife as well.
Connor Rogers
Nerd.
Jay
The chat says this is one is on us. Like we're failing. It's a John Wick reference.
Matthew Berry
Ah, yeah.
Jay
I'm not gonna lie. I was just assuming we were still in the Star Trek world, that we haven't got Adam for four days.
Matthew Berry
Character from Slavic folklore.
Jay
Google is on this. A bad job by us. I'll take the L. Joe Burrow. By the way.
Connor Rogers
I've watched all the John Wicks and I just.
Jay
It went right through me.
Matthew Berry
Who knows the names of John Wick characters outside of John Wick?
Connor Rogers
John Wick. John Wick and then all the people John Wick kills. Yeah, that's except for the couple of people that John Wick that, you know.
Matthew Berry
Betray John Wick and maybe the Ana de Armas character. And that's it. That's all I'm giving you.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, I don't even know the name of the dog that died. Sorry. Spoiler alert.
Matthew Berry
It's called dog.
Jay
John Wick Jr. Joe Burrow Full participant in Thursday's practice. We're going to keep an eye on Joe Burrow updates all week and the latest is from Paul Denner, who does a great job covering the team.
Connor Rogers
He does for the Athletic.
Jay
He said just got back from practice. Joe Burrow wasn't involved in stretch with the rest of the quarterbacks, but he did participate in portions of the low red zone drill that was starting as the media exited. Do with that what you will. We'll speak to Zach Taylor within the next 30 minutes. So maybe we'll have an update on Burrow by the end of the show.
Matthew Berry
I am very doubtful that Burrow is going to play on Sunday. One, just reading between the lines of some of the reporting out of practice and then secondly the line is Patriots minus seven in Cincinnati. Joe Burrow is not going to be a touchdown favorite at home against frankly anyone in the NFL. So there's a chance that he plays clearly. But I think that because he plays on Thanksgiving as well against the Ravens, I think having him come off this absence and play two games in five days, that seems improbable to me. But who knows? You know, he's Joe Burrow.
Jay
Where would you rank him if he did play?
Connor Rogers
If Burrow played, rank him like QB 6 or 7. Like, I mean I think he's a top 10. I think he'd be a top 10 guy. Again. The reason why, the reason why Flacco has been so good is their defense is awful and he's got two of the best wide receivers. I mean he's not, he's got no chase. He's got no, he's got no chase here. So he would be, he'd be a low end QB one. But it'd be, I'd be hard pressed to not start him if, if I'd had Burrow. It depend on I guess who you have. But yeah, I mean I think he would be a top 10 play. I think he'd probably be in the, off the top of my head, somewhere in the 8 QB8 range, something, something like that. The one last thing I'll say here though about him not playing if they lose this game, they're three and eight, right?
Matthew Berry
Yeah.
Connor Rogers
I mean it just sort of feels like why bring him back? The whole point of bringing him back is to try to save the season. And it just, if you Lose this game, season's done. And if you felt better about Flacco after last week, I get it. But like, obviously, you know, that was a tough game for Flacco and so.
Matthew Berry
That the only thing there. It's kind of when Lamar came back and everyone expected him to be back for that Bears game. And the Ravens at the time, I think 1 and 5. And if they lose that game against the Bears, they're 1 and 6 and the season feels almost over. And they held Lamar out of that game and gave him an extra four days to play against the Dolphins on Thursday Night Football. And at the time I was thinking, like, he's been out six weeks, like for hamstring. How much does four days actually matter? Like seasons on the line. But I do think there is this aspect of having the guys play off a long layoff to two games in five days. That's just a lot. And these guys are the franchise, clearly Lamar and Joe Burrow. So that would be my thinking. But also, let's be realistic. Like the Bengals, I don't think they're going to do anything this year. They have maybe the worst defense of all time. So like I said yesterday, I think it's not as cool having Joe Burrow when your defense turns everyone else into Joe Burrow.
Connor Rogers
And I feel like, I feel like on some level, when you think about how good the Colts are playing, I feel like there's a requiem on. Everyone's just like, oh, he did such a bad job with the Bengals, actually, when you see what they are without him. He actually did a great job last year.
Jay
He was a fall guy. He was like a total scoundrel.
Connor Rogers
Said he was a fall guy. But my point is, I actually think now seeing what they've done this year with more or less the same talent.
Matthew Berry
Oh, the defense is substantially worse this year.
Connor Rogers
That's my point. That's my point. That's my point is I actually think given the level of talent that he had to work with, that he actually, in retrospect, I think he actually did.
Matthew Berry
A really good job overachieved getting the 27th ranked defense.
Connor Rogers
Yes, I know that sounds insane, but that's my actual point.
Matthew Berry
Look at him. Trey Hendrickson out hurts a lot. But yeah, I don't. Louanna clearly wasn't the problem last year.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, I mean, I always say that's like the best example of Mike Tomlin being a brilliant coach is how crazy Antonio Brown was after he left the Steelers. Because it's not like he suddenly turned crazy. He's Always been sort of like, you know, a guy that marches to his own drumbeat. And yet when he was in Pittsburgh, it was kept in house. And then he leaves Pittsburgh, and now he's leaving games in the middle of the game and ripping his shirt off and like.
Matthew Berry
Yeah.
Jay
And, yeah, there's a lot to unpack there. We're not going to have to unpack today.
Matthew Berry
You can take your shots against Antonio Brown. I'm gonna keep my mouth shut.
Jay
Charlton writes, if Burrow can go play Josavas over Pierce this week, I feel like that's an unnecessary risk. Am I crazy?
Connor Rogers
Yeah. And I just. I. I will say, if Burrow can go and Daniel Jones with that calf injury doesn't go, then, yes, but. But no. Alec Pierce is, you know, since. Like, since like the middle of the year, Pierce has been like the 17th best wide receiver in fantasy football. Something like that. So I just. I think that's getting a little bit too cute. We like Burrow, but Pierce, I think, is a different level.
Matthew Berry
Alec Pierce is also the patron saint of fanciful happy hour. So when in doubt, defer to the patron sate over Andre Yoshivas.
Jay
So we do have an update here, guys. This is from Adam Schefter. The Bengals just said that Joe Burrow is questionable for Sunday's gamers page out of Aaron Glenn's playbook. Yeah, Aaron Glenn is very. Everybody wants to be Aaron Glenn. You want to know who I'm starting?
Matthew Berry
Yeah, I like it for the Bengals.
Connor Rogers
Yes, it's. But this. It's more legitimate here than it ever was there. And Glenn, like, what are you doing here, Glenn, like, stop it.
Jay
Justin Fields, Tyrod Taylor.
Connor Rogers
We're one in seven, right?
Matthew Berry
Maybe the Bengals are going to do anything this year. I'm sorry. Like, they can send Joe Borrow out there.
Connor Rogers
I know, but why haven't returned to practice at all in that.
Matthew Berry
Why have him come back at all? Yeah, that's.
Connor Rogers
No, no, but, like, do you understand? Like, if. If the plaintiffs never play him, like, why even bring him into practice, like, shut him down for the year they're.
Matthew Berry
Going to play him? I think the reason they bring him into practice this week is more to prepare him on the short week for next week. But we'll see. It's questionable, so I guess we'll find out on Sunday morning.
Connor Rogers
I guess we will.
Jay
All right. That's right. More injury news. Buccaneers running back Bucky Irving continues to practice, but in limited fashion. He was limited on Thursday. And our very own Mike Florio yesterday on a warning on why Bucky might not be back anytime soon. Take a listen to this. I'm not so sure Bucky Irving is.
Matthew Berry
Going to be back this weekend based.
Jay
Upon something I heard when we were. When we were in Philadelphia. I'll tell you off air what I heard. Okay. I want to be careful. It just underscores the. The very real existence of inside information. It's because it's something that. That. That probably shouldn't be out, but I don't think he's going to be back anytime soon. It definitely is more information than what's available in the injury report. That's not an optimistic update.
Connor Rogers
That is not. I think it. I think what it says is that it's. It's very pessimistic. And producer Steven told me we have an update now, so he's been ruled out.
Jay
Ben Bredesen, Bucky Irving, Jamel Dean and Hassan Riddick are out, per Todd Bowles. Chris Godwin is definitely trending toward playing. That is from River Wells.
Matthew Berry
Okay, that's not a great report for the Bucs.
Connor Rogers
No, I mean, you know, Dean and Reddick. I mean, like that.
Matthew Berry
Like Braederson on the Island. Yeah, those are four guys they kind of need.
Jay
On the Bucky front. We've now had two weeks of limited practices and not playing, so I don't.
Connor Rogers
Want to speculate as to, you know, what Florio is talking about. There sounds like there is. There's, you know, something more serious brewing below the surface. But the most important thing for us as a fantasy wolf show is that we now have at least clarity that Bucky Irving won't go. You feel a little bit better about Rashad White and Sean Tucker in terms of their workload, because now it's. It's a workload divided by 2 versus 3. All that said, no team allows fewer rushing touchdowns to opposing running backs this year than the Los Angeles Ramsay since week five. I've given the stat out before, but Derrick Henry, the only running back to rush for more than 67 yards against the Rams, only Derrick Henry since Week 5. And so both guys, you know, ideally, I would not start either guy if I had to. I think if I had to pick one, it would probably be Sean Tucker. Just because I think he's got the better chance at a touchdown. I'm not convinced he necessarily comes off the field. I mean, they used him in the passing game. He was so brilliant last week that I just feel like, you don't put that toothpaste back in the tube. You don't suddenly say like, hey, how.
Jay
Do you watch that and be like.
Connor Rogers
Let'S get less of that?
Matthew Berry
Yeah.
Jay
Right.
Matthew Berry
I do think as well that it's handy in a way that this is a Sunday night game because you're probably going to be in position where you know kind of what you need out of that game. If you have both of these guys.
Jay
Yeah.
Matthew Berry
And if you need upside and you need someone to get you 21 points, then Sean Tucker will be your go. If you need someone to just get you six, seven points, then Rashad White with the dump offs, I think might be a higher floor in terms of least getting to that type of.
Connor Rogers
But when I do my. When I do my ranking sweep, I will. I will probably have them in the 25 to 30 range, both of them in kind of the running back 25 to 30, 25 to 32 range. So low inflexes both of them. I think I prefer Tucker to Rashad White just because I think Tucker has the. Has the more upside and the more. The better chance at a touchdown. Thomas Wald 177 says, I need one running back flex. Should I shot Sean Tucker or Emmanuel Wilson?
Jay
We don't know yet.
Matthew Berry
The good thing is, is that you'll get to make the choice based on whether Josh Jacobs goes in the earlier game.
Connor Rogers
That is the correct answer here. If Josh Jacobs is out, the answer is Emmanuel Wilson. To me, without a doubt. Without a doubt.
Jay
Pure volume.
Connor Rogers
Yes. And if Josh Jacobs is active, then to your point, I'm Sean Tucker. Yeah.
Matthew Berry
Tuck wagon.
Jay
On the more optimistic Bucs news, guys, Chris Godwin did practice fully on Thursday. Obviously, he's trending towards playing right now, but his offensive coordinator, Josh Grizzard, had a bit of a fair warning on how much they can ask him to play right away.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, I think whether it's Buck or whether it's Chris, it's kind of the same thing where these guys haven't played in so long. To be able to think that they're going to go out there and play 50 snaps or 55 snaps would be unfair to those guys.
Matthew Berry
So seeing how much they can handle.
Connor Rogers
Getting them in there on the plays where we know it's really critical to that play. Let them build their play strength to get their confidence back up, to get back to their top shape.
Jay
All right, so maybe, I mean, the question is like, it's a wait and see.
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
Jay
Can you start Godwin in your flex in this situation? You'd rather not.
Connor Rogers
And I guess if you're desperate, you can, but you don't.
Jay
Our league, I might have to, right?
Matthew Berry
Yeah.
Connor Rogers
Which. I get that. I mean, it just. Just sort of depends. But you don't. You don't love. Love it, Right. You know, I mean, like, he's Chris Godwin, so could. Could he have a nice game? But it's just such a narrow window there. I don't know.
Matthew Berry
Yeah, I don't love it. I think what's interesting as well is the ripple effects onto Emeke Bucha, who had an illness and was lim limited on Thursday expectations. He's still going to go.
Connor Rogers
But Kate Otten, who people have been using like a tight end streamer.
Matthew Berry
Everyone just gets less attractive if Godwin is getting in there and playing.
Connor Rogers
Except Baker. Yeah, I feel better about Baker in.
Matthew Berry
This game a little bit. You worried a lot about Ebuka, who's I think caught like 45 out of 84 targets this year.
Jay
It's just perspective. Right? Like that hot start. Now if Mecca Book is not a star, right away we're like, oh, what is this? You're still getting value of where you drafted him. If you, after four weeks, traded a star running back for him, then, yeah, you're probably concerned right now.
Matthew Berry
We draw that rest of the way. Him or Ted Roll McMillan.
Jay
T. Mac.
Matthew Berry
T. Mac. Easy.
Jay
Yeah. Just volume.
Connor Rogers
I agree.
Jay
Guaranteed volume.
Matthew Berry
I agree, too. And that wouldn't have been the answer one week ago.
Jay
He's outpacing Buka right now. After last week.
Matthew Berry
Yeah, he's. He doesn't have the buy yet, which is the one. Okay. But still, I would think that on a per game basis, Tedron McMillan's a better bet the rest of the way.
Jay
Right.
Connor Rogers
Keep pounding.
Matthew Berry
Yes.
Jay
That's right.
Matthew Berry
Never cease to pound.
Connor Rogers
Yes. Yes.
Jay
We got another.
Connor Rogers
Stop pounding.
Jay
Another question.
Connor Rogers
If you think about halting the pounding, deny.
Matthew Berry
Yes. Don't do it. Yeah. Halt those thoughts.
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
Jay
Joshua Hoffman, 2060. Flex Godwin or Rashid Shahid?
Connor Rogers
Now this one, I would actually flex Godwin. We talked about this. We talked about Rashid Shahid on the Wednesday show. We close it out on Rasheed Shahid. He's just not getting the volume. Just doesn't seem to have the connection with Sam Darnold just yet, despite the familiarity with the offense. And, you know, JSN's just been so effing good, you know, I'm not kidding.
Matthew Berry
He might be the best wide receiver I've ever seen. This is ridiculous what he's doing this year.
Jay
You too, Randy Moss, when you get a chance. I mean, nobody will ever be better than Randy Moss. That's my take.
Matthew Berry
That's Fair.
Connor Rogers
Randy Moss with Tom Brady that year.
Jay
I mean and everybody thought Randy was done then that's what it was. Nuts about it.
Matthew Berry
He's gonna have more receiving yards this year than Randy Moss ever did in the year. Doesn't mean he's a better player.
Jay
More games.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, more games. And a rule set now that if you breathe on a receiver, oh my.
Jay
God, you cannot play defensive back anymore. But your point, Jay JSN is unbelievable.
Connor Rogers
He's having a ridiculous year.
Matthew Berry
Probably the best just to my naked eye like just about the best route runner. I've seen his timing, his balance as well. The one handed on something. Yeah, it's frightening. We got a lot of Jonathan Taylor win offensive player of the year. JSN is terrifying. Absolutely terrifying.
Connor Rogers
And by the way, he's on the road to Tennessee this week. He should have, should be just fine.
Jay
We kind of answered this with the question but Josh Jacob, we don't know if he's going to play yet. I mean you're starting Emmanuel Wilson if Jacobs doesn't play in almost every format, right?
Connor Rogers
Yeah, I'm at running back 15.
Jay
There you go, right there. And Trey Benson practiced in a limited capacity on Thursday. Jay, do you think you start Benson if he's active this week? This has been a weird one. Just lingering for a long time but not a lot of clarity.
Matthew Berry
I don't want any part of the Arizona backfield if I can afford it. Don't know who to start, don't know if that what kind of script they're going to have. Don't want the condition of their defense is going to be. They're going up against a Jags team that I think you can run on despite the best efforts of the L A Chargers not to run on them. But even two weeks ago we saw Woody Marks and Nick Chubb were able to do efficiency wise against the Jags. So I would just hunt around for more bait reports as they come out and we'll talk about it on Sunday pre game about what the anticipated usage is of these backs. But ideally you don't want to start anyone on Arizona outside of Brissette, McBride and Michael Wilson.
Connor Rogers
I agree with that take completely. I bent it at 26. I sort of a kind of a hedge ranking there as well. I know that you think you can run on Jacksonville but just statistically they allow the second fewest rush yards per game to opposing running backs and the six fewest fantasy points per game like they have actually. And whether it's because teams don't need to run on them because they've been so effective throwing against them or game script. So. So yeah, I agree with you. Just sort of like to the eye test feels like you can run on them.
Jay
Yeah.
Connor Rogers
On the other hand, like they shut down the Chargers. They're very Jekyll and Hyde. The Jaguars, some weeks they're like, oh, actually you guys are a legit defense. And then there's some weeks you're like, what are you guys doing?
Matthew Berry
Give up 35 to Matthew Stafford with no puka Nakua.
Connor Rogers
That's right. So it's all over the place. But I do think, here's what I'll tell you. I'm going to just tell you this right now. This is exactly what's going to happen if you start Trey Benson. I'm speaking to you generally. If you start Trey Benson, Bam Knight is going to have the game of his life. But if you leave Benson on the bench, two touchdowns at 100 yards coming incoming. I'm just telling you that's how it works. That's how it works for all of us here in the fantasy football community.
Matthew Berry
Yeah.
Connor Rogers
Yeah. So we all just got to kind of vote what we want to do.
Jay
If you're dealing with these injuries, here's some top Week 12 waiver targets to take a look at. Trevor Lawrence has those Arizona Cardinals Tyler schuck a top 20 play against Atlanta. Taje Spears, he's always on this list. RB31 is baseball. Tootin is RB33 Devin Singletary, RB34 Christian Watson definitely a flex play with his big playability at wide receiver. 30 Keisha M. Booty Andre Josevis and then at tight end Harold Fannin Jr. And Mason Taylor both cracked the top 15 tight ends. Mostly matchup and usage related.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, Mason Taylor got six targets in Tyrod Taylor's first start of the season. Fannin 30, 23% target share since Week 7. How about Bae Shaltin who's out touched ETN in Week 1115 to 12 prior to leaving the game with that injury. He's been questionable all week long as well. Last week Christian Watson had a 20% target share. He leads the NFL on average depth of target since he returned. Kayshawn Booty in his last three healthy games had four touchdowns. And we like the Patriots obviously getting to play the Cincinnati Bengals defense. Booty is sort of pretty interesting. I've always kind of been into Booty.
Jay
But now I have the man to help you with that.
Connor Rogers
Really?
Jay
Yes. We have an actual doctor ready. Denny Carter.
Matthew Berry
Yummy.
Jay
Denny, there's a lot of disrespect for shorter people on this show. I've noticed over the years. And for the 5 foot 7, Greg Dorch, he might be the guy for the Cardinals this week. Does size really matter here for Greg Dorch?
Connor Rogers
It's a good question about size. Does it matter, Dr. Carter?
Jay
It doesn't matter. It matters how you use, you know, what you got. And you know Connor Rogers, our short king. Many are calling him. When I go to the studio, all I hear is short king Connor. So Greg Dor is our short king for the Cardinals. Look, he's going to play a lot this week. Flexural frustrations with the doctor himself. Hello, Denny, how are you? Hey, guys. Hey. The short king got there, I told you. Okay, and, and it was all from our guy, Jacoby. We'll talk about him in a minute. I think, Denny, it was so nice with the short king. We're going to run it back twice. How about his teammate Michael Wilson in this game against Jacksonville after going nuclear last week? Yeah. Look, one day this explosion from Jacoby Brissette is going to stop. Okay? We don't know when that's going to stop, but it's not going to stop this week and I'll tell you why. The Jaguars are the premier preeminent, some are saying pass funnel defense in the NFL this season. That means that teams are leaning hard toward the pass funnel and away from the run. Actually, Matthew just mentioned how good the Jags have been against the run this year. I think Brissette is in for another 40 plus attempt day. Last week the Cardinals as a team had 325 air yards. That's a lot. That's a lot of air yards. And boundary receivers are getting there week after week against the Jaguars. Michael Wilson should be in your lineup this week.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, I, you know, I agree with you, Dr. Carter. As you mentioned, just kind of the explosiveness explosions tend to. Tend to fade. You know, it's not always going to stay like as people get older, you know, maybe not as explosive, you know, but probably not this week, which is. I'm just saying. I'm just letting. I'm just saying. Doctor, did he email you again? This is what we learn. You learn about this in mother Russia. Anyway, what I want to say, Denny, is I got an email. I got an email here that I'd like to. It was passed along for. To pass along to you says Matthew, can you please ask Dr. Carter this. This is from a guy named Pete. Pete says Dr. Carter. Dr. Carter, I've been having real performance Issues lately, it's been really tough for me to perform. And I was talking with a buddy about these performance issues and my buddy said, have you tried Coke? And I said, well, I never have. Do you think that would help my performance issues? And my buddy said, yes, yes. I think Coke would get you up, would get you to where you need to be. So the question to you, Dr. Carter, is, should Pete try Coke? Should he try Jalen Coker this week in his flex?
Jay
Pete sounds like a Pepsi guy. And there are studies that say that Pepsi has a negative effect on your performance. So you should switch. You should switch to Coke. I figured that's what you're talking about here.
Connor Rogers
Look.
Jay
Because Jalen Coker has run a route on 75 of Carolina's drop backs over the past two weeks. That's pretty good, mainly from the slot. And the 49ers are allowing a league high 95 reception to slot pass catchers in 2025. That's 8.7 per game. As you can see on the graphic there. The second most yards. They're aligned, the second most yards of slot guys. The total for this game, guys, has risen to 49 and a half. It could be fun. It could be fun. So if you want a little fun, you. You try Jalen Coker.
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
Matthew Berry
Okay.
Connor Rogers
Cokehead. Tonight.
Jay
I like the interaction of have you tried Coke?
Connor Rogers
Oh, wow.
Jay
No, I never have.
Matthew Berry
Yeah, that's normal.
Jay
Very nice talking to chat GPT.
Matthew Berry
Dr. Carter, I too want to talk about performance issues. I want to talk about performance in the cold because as we know, it shrinks. Yes, it shrinks in the cold, which can be embarrassing. I talk, of course, about passing game production in the cold when there are gusts of wind. And that could affect Luther Burden against the Pittsburgh Steelers out in the cold in Chicago, where it'll be 5 degrees Celsius. I still haven't learned Fahrenheit, but 5 degrees Celsius is very cold. And I can assure you. Can you start Luther Burton in the cold despite the shrinkage?
Jay
Dr. Carter, George Costanza should not have any shame about what happened to him way back in the 90s. Okay? And we shouldn't have any shame about playing Bears pass catchers this week because the Steelers, like the Jaguars a minute ago, are a pass funnel defense and really one of the more extreme ones. They are allowing A League High 15.2 wide receiver receptions per game. And Luther Burden finally, at long last, last week, took over the slot duties from Alamedi Zakias. Ben Johnson said, quote, you get what you earn. And I think Burden has earned an increase in snaps he steadily climbed. Okay, so despite the cold, I think that he can still perform. He can still get it done. Tom Garrett, in the chat goes Celsius. Yeah, I don't know about Celsius.
Connor Rogers
Wait, TOM Garrett, that's the problem. You have a question mark about this segment of everything that just was said. Celsius is what is what raises your eyebrows.
Jay
To answer more of your flexual frustrations, of course. Denny does a live Q and A right after our show on the Roto World Football Show. Denny, thanks for joining us as always. Thanks, fellas.
Matthew Berry
Thank you.
Jay
Sunday night, two quarterbacks who continue to turn the clock will turn back the clock will clash as Baker Mayfield leads the Bucs against Matthew Stafford and the Rams. Sunday, 7 Eastern on NBC. And Peacock, we're taking our first break. We're answering some of your best questions coming up next on what's on tap.
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Jay
Yes. Full ppr. Woody Marks or RJ Harvey. Gotta start one this week, unfortunately.
Connor Rogers
Well, I'm gonna give you the answer. It's Woody Marks this week because RJ Harvey's on a buy, right? There you go. I got one. Right?
Jay
That's the good stuff.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, that's.
Jay
You could. You could worry about a Woody Marks fumble and getting negative points and you start rjrving said. But you probably want to start Woody Marks.
Matthew Berry
Let's roll this one back. If Woody Marx gets hurt on an opening snap fumble.
Connor Rogers
But where I saw rjr. Yeah. Aloha Bricks. Bad look on you. I think he literally just lost two spots in the power. Regular power rankings.
Jay
Speaking of those regular power rankings.
Connor Rogers
Wow.
Jay
7, 10, 9 spots fall from grace for Aloha Breaks.
Matthew Berry
Yeah, this is what happens when you don't check R.J. harvey's Bye Weeks.
Connor Rogers
No, I mean, it's like Alabama last week.
Matthew Berry
Alabama.
Connor Rogers
We know Alabama's a good team, but they lose to Oklahoma. You gotta drop Jonathan Medici up three to number one. Finally, Medici.
Jay
That's weak for Jonathan Medici.
Connor Rogers
He's been on a run for a couple of weeks. Raise the flag. Stays even at number two. Valiant Vincent, up two spots. K Gemma, 89, not ranked last week. Makes a debut on the list this week at number four. Johnny Dangerly. Up two spots to number four. Stuntman Chuck, 85. Nice to see him on the list as well. He's been a steady contributor for Heavy Meat Sauce. Stays even at 7. And yes, heavy Neck Brace Nation. Not surprised.
Jay
It's a big one.
Matthew Berry
Lawrence Jackson.
Connor Rogers
It's a contender for some reason. Vet had a tough week, but not as tough as Aloha Brooks. Tej.
Matthew Berry
Sayonara, Brooks.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, Tej And Ryan Oswald. And somebody else that went away.
Matthew Berry
Cobra Kiger. Cobra Kiger, I believe it was.
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
Jay
Jonathan Medici weighing in. Steven. In preparation for this moment, I prepared a speech. Conor with vigor. Steven Q. Hans Zimmer. Journey to the Line.
Connor Rogers
There you go.
Jay
Nice.
Connor Rogers
Awesome.
Matthew Berry
I like it.
Connor Rogers
Well done.
Jay
That's why Jonathan Medici.
Matthew Berry
So he doesn't get you poisoned. Number one.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, he keeps crushing. He doesn't take it, you know, like, obviously. Aloha, bricks. Little lazy. Yeah, he took it.
Matthew Berry
Three stops looking up Denver by weeks.
Jay
Brian Hickman said. Yikes. They really did go full old BCS formula on the rankings.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, we did.
Jay
That's right. Thousand percent what next week brings. All right, let's get into Medici.
Connor Rogers
Regular cheers crescendo. So this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause. And then he believes Star wars over Star Trek. You're right on that, Medidi.
Matthew Berry
I agree with that. Medici.
Jay
Alright, let's get into what's on tap, which is brought to you by Bud Light, the official beer sponsor of the NFL. Sundays are easy to enjoy when they are full of football and the fridge is filled with beer. And we're going to make it even easier for you by taking some of your questions. Let's jump right in here, guys. And this is from a regular in heavy meat sauce. Who asked Dak or Purdy this week? I'm leaning towards Purdy, but Dax got that dog in him.
Matthew Berry
How's the implication from every meat sauce that Brock Purdy is absent dog in him? Yeah, I don't like that.
Connor Rogers
Brock Purdy's.
Matthew Berry
Brock Brady's got some dog in him.
Jay
Starts his decisions with the dog meter though as well. That's a. That's a positive for heavy meat sauce. I like that.
Connor Rogers
Yeah. The problem with Dak is that, yes, he's got that dog in him, but he's also got like a cat and like an occasional squirrel, like every once in a while. I don't know.
Matthew Berry
The cat mainly comes out in January.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, you see my rankings that right there. I have pretty two spots ahead of Dak Prescott, you know, multiple touchdown passes in all three of his starts so far this season for Brock Purdy. Carolina Panthers are 32nd in the NFL in pressure rate. Like no team gets to the quarterback less than the Carolina Panthers. So Brock Purdy should have a clean pocket to look for. Kittle, Pearsall, Jennings, Bourne, Christian McCaffrey as well. So you know, this game is in. Carol is in San Francisco as well. So yeah, give me Brock Purdy in this one, guys.
Matthew Berry
Yep. I think it's mainly commentary as well about the fact that Dakar slayed the Eagles defense, who I think would be along with Denver and Houston in contention for the number one defense in the league. They've just like completely like Jared Goff can do Anything. Jordan Love couldn't do anything. This is like two of the best offenses in the league. Completely power.
Connor Rogers
Yes. And Jalen Carter is not going to spit and get thrown out after the first play in this one.
Matthew Berry
We'll see. Yeah, we'll see.
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
Matthew Berry
Probably not.
Jay
All right, our next question is from Derek's 7047. Need some help? Alec Pierce or Alvin Camara? Full PPR.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, I get this question right and the you want to say Pierce. You want to.
Jay
That always helps when you're answering. Yes.
Connor Rogers
I do think I get the question. I understand why you would think this. Obviously we are an Alec Pierce show. But I weirdly think as gross as it is, I think Alvin Camara might be the answer here. 25 touches last week for Alvin Camara. That was a season high. Played 64% of the snaps. That was his highest since week seven. And in both of Tyler Schuck starts this season he's had double digit target share. Think about this Falcons team where the strength is more the secondary. They're giving up the third most fantasy points per game to opposing running backs. I get that it's gross and that Pierce could get deep for one, but I just feel like in terms of the floor play, it's definitely Camara. If you need to swing for the fences, Pierce obviously could get deep for one and you could see a. You could see Camaro wind up with not a touchdown and have like a 10 point game and kind of pedestrian thing. But I think Camara is probably the safer play with a higher floor here.
Matthew Berry
Sacrilegious. Really.
Connor Rogers
I get it.
Matthew Berry
Put to stain on the patron saint. Good luck to you. Matthew. You can start the bad player and I'll start the good player, the great.
Connor Rogers
Alec, your answer is Alec Pierce here?
Matthew Berry
No, it'd probably be Kamara just because they're two point favorites against the Falcons rush defense. Also you do worry a little bit about just the bottom falling out of Atlanta with everything that's happened this past week and the fact that they don't have a great rush defense at the best of times. And Tyler Schuck, I think that Tyler Shock is going to be the superior quarterback in this matchup and also get the Saints in scoring position a reasonable amount. Shock has. Shock has been very solid his two starts to date.
Connor Rogers
Yeah. And you're also like Kansas City's got a good defense and do they, you know, do they goodish?
Matthew Berry
Why are we giving up? 3rd and 15 is the bonus of the season.
Connor Rogers
You're right. Good ish.
Matthew Berry
Josh Allen did whatever he wanted against them. I understand Houston's a different caliber of defense, but some issues with the Chiefs pass rush in particular.
Connor Rogers
Yeah. My only thought is this is. This is literally their season.
Matthew Berry
That's literally their season. Last week though, when are we going to run out of the season stuff?
Jay
They just don't have it.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, maybe they don't.
Jay
All right, our last question from Big Chief.
Connor Rogers
We still think Kamara is the answer.
Jay
Big Chief x13 Full PPR I need one wide receiver, Michael Wilson a Mecca Buka or Ricky Pearsall. Would you flex any of them over Etienne.
Connor Rogers
Of the wide receivers? I think it's a Mecca Buka. Even if Chris Godwin comes back over those last four games, he's had a 30% target share. Rams have allowed at least 17 fantasy points to an opposing wide receiver in back to back games. If you tell me a wide receiver in this game gets 17 points, you feel better about it being a Buka. Even if Godwin comes back because we don't know will he be unlimited snaps. Like, you know, where is he exactly at? So I do think a book over Wilson or Pierce. Although I will say if Godwin comes back, it's really a coin flip between a book and Wilson. I have right now I have a buck at 11. I have Wilson at 17. But if I knew for sure that Chris Godwin was definitely playing, I feel like you would make them closer. I'd probably still keep a Buuka there, but you know, it's close.
Matthew Berry
Really tough matchup against the Rams. A Rams team that just doesn't give up explosive pass plays.
Jay
Their safeties are awesome. Yeah, they're awesome.
Matthew Berry
Yeah. So he's not. I don't think. I think he's going on ir, which doesn't help at all. But.
Connor Rogers
And we just heard Dr. Denny Carter talk about Wilson. We talked about how bad Jacksonville is against perimeter wide receivers as well. But I will say the other part of that question. I would not flex any of them over Travis etn. I would still start etn. So I really think it comes down to Ebuka versus Wilson. Feels like you're leaning Wilson.
Matthew Berry
I would lean Wilson. I think it's going to be. And he's still the number one wide receiver for a guy that just set the completions right. Yeah.
Jay
I was throwing my.
Connor Rogers
You break the team. You would go with my tie. All right.
Jay
I'm a Jacoby believer.
Connor Rogers
Sure.
Jay
In this you're a Jacobar cheap. I'm a Jacob Jacobbler.
Connor Rogers
Jacob Blur. Jacob's funnier. Jacobler is more Accurate. But Jacob blur is funnier.
Matthew Berry
Sounds like a chicken cobbler.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, I mean, like, because then it gives you allow. It just allows you to like, talk trash, you know. Choke on that jacobbler.
Jay
Right.
Matthew Berry
All right.
Connor Rogers
Choke on the chocobber. I'm working it out.
Jay
Saved by the bell, by the way.
Matthew Berry
Travis at is this like fourth year in the league? Feels like he's been in the NFL for 15 years.
Jay
Right. Well, and on some kind of injury 75 times. Aloha bricks. Nine spots is crazy. But hey, we all have our weak.
Matthew Berry
That's okay. You bounce back now.
Jay
You're just motivated to bounce back.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, exactly.
Jay
Aloha bricks.
Matthew Berry
Listen, you're the Chiefs against the Colts now.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, listen. Aloha Brooks. You're like Alabama. You fell, you had a loss. But you know what? You've still got a game against Auburn. You'll climb back up.
Jay
Yeah, that'll do it for what's on tap. Presented by Bud Light. Easy to trade, easy to enjoy. We're taking our last break. When we're back, we have our best picks to impress. Matthew, pick up lines after the break.
Connor Rogers
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Jay
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Matthew Berry
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Connor Rogers
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Matthew Berry
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Jay
Or a brownstone in a city where festivals are just a walk away.
Matthew Berry
Or a lakeside home with a fire.
Jay
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Matthew Berry
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Jay
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Matthew Berry
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Jay
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Matthew Berry
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Connor Rogers
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Jay
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Connor Rogers
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Jay
Pick up lines for Last call. Not our best showing this year, which is usually our strongest betting segment, but let's see if we can turn it around and finish the season strongly here. Matthew has sided with Jay seven times. Me four. Jay, what do you got for him this week?
Matthew Berry
Okay, when in doubt and in need of a friend, call on a King. King Henry over 87 and a half rushing yards against the New York Jets. King Henry is averaging 98 rushing yards over his past five games. He's quietly had at least 18 carries each of the past five games. The jets they rank in the bottom 10 as a rush defense on a per play basis this year and a lot of that sample comes with Quinn and Williams, who might be the most valuable rush defender in the NFL. Now the two weeks without Quinn and Williams jets rush defense have been surprisingly okay against Quinshaw, Judkins and Trevor Henderson. I think that says more about the offensive line of the Browns and the offensive line of the Patriots, which is not the strength of the team. I think that the Ravens with Derek Henry now back to breaking off long runs, he had the 59 yarder against the Cleveland Browns. I think that Henry will break at least one run and he will go over 87 and a half rushing yards.
Jay
How about both our picks coming from Jets Ravens in this one? Obviously we're following the same script here. The jets are almost 14 point underdogs. Matthew Breece Hall over two and a half receptions. The jets passing game has not been able to get Breece hall the ball because Justin Fields just can't throw a check down on time. One start for Tyrod Taylor. He targeted Breece hall six times, completed four of them. I think by kickoff this line will move to three and a half from two and a half. But it's been at two and a half this week at a pretty good price. So I think Tyrod Taylor gets the ball to Breece. The jets just don't have a lot of pass catchers that are viable.
Connor Rogers
I like both these bets quite a bit and I really hope yours hits because I have Derek Henry against Roto Pat in our matchup this week, but I'm going home with Connor. Jets inside talking to me a little bit. Jets insider golf. Yeah, listen, if he can't put your money on Tyrod Taylor, who can you put your money on?
Jay
Jets racing world big betting game of the week on the desk.
Connor Rogers
Exactly. So I'm going home. Give me over on Breeze hall. Two and a half receptions, but I like the Derek Henry one as well.
Jay
We got some news here. Tyler Drake tweeting the Cardinals are signing running back Jamar Jefferson to the active Rock Foster. Arizona is also adding running back Sincere McCormick to the practice squad. Not a great sign for Trey Benson's availability.
Connor Rogers
Well, it looks like Bam Bam Knight. Looks like Bam Knight rides again.
Jay
Walks.
Matthew Berry
Yeah. Saunters. Saunters.
Connor Rogers
Yeah. Waddles again. But anyway, whatever, you know, underdog NFL.
Jay
Sam LaPorta unlikely to return this season after undergoing back surgery. This is a very disappointing.
Connor Rogers
Yeah, Dan Campbell.
Jay
Campbell.
Connor Rogers
You know, so maybe we see some Brock ride. Didn't do much in that last game, but of course no one, none of Lions did as well. But disappointing. Yet another guy that I drafted that is now out for the year. He was my type. It was my fifth round pick, so just very frustrating. Hey, fantasy football pregame is On Sunday morning, 11am Eastern all the way until kickoff. Jay, Lawrence, George and myself, you don't have to go home, but you can stay here for Connor and Jay and Dr. Denny Carter. I'm Matthew. We'll see you tomorrow. Pizza.
Jay
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Matthew Berry
Of my good friends to discuss the.
Jay
Biggest stories across sports and entertainment.
Matthew Berry
But in a way that's like fun and not boring. Want to know Sue Bird's favorite Diana.
Jay
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Connor Rogers
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Jay
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Matthew Berry
On the SiriusXM app or wherever you get your podcasts. Bye. The who's down in who Newville were making their list, but some didn't know.
Connor Rogers
Walmart has the best brands for their gifts.
Jay
What about toys? Do they have brands kids have been wanting all year?
Matthew Berry
Yep.
Jay
Barbie, Tonys and Lego Gifts that will.
Matthew Berry
Make them all cheer.
Jay
Do you mean they have all the brands I adore? They have Nintendo, Nespresso, Apple, Apple and more.
Matthew Berry
What about so the who answered questions from friends till they were blue?
Connor Rogers
Each one listened and shouted from Walmart?
Matthew Berry
Who knew? Shop gifts from pop brands or everyone.
Connor Rogers
On your list in the Walmart?
Matthew Berry
Applause.
Date: November 21, 2025
Host: Matthew Berry, with Jay and Connor Rogers
This lively episode takes a deep dive into Houston’s upset of the Bills, focusing on the fantasy fallout from the game. The crew breaks down the struggles of Josh Allen, the surprising effectiveness of the Texans' defense, and what it means moving forward for key fantasy assets on both sides. Injury updates, especially surrounding Joe Burrow and Bucky Irving, are highlighted with an eye toward actionable fantasy advice. As always, the tone is irreverent, conversational, and filled with running jokes, memorable one-liners, and candid assessments of the week’s key NFL happenings.
(Starts ~03:10)
General Assessment:
Bills:
Texans:
Houston’s Defensive Upside:
(Starts ~17:33 and again at 24:35)
Joe Burrow:
Bucky Irving:
Other injury notes:
(Starts ~33:40)
Top Waiver Targets:
Flex/Streamer Discussions:
(Scattered; key sections at: 42:53, 45:13, 49:12)
(54:13 - End)
"Pick-Up Lines" Best Bets:
Injury Fallout:
Matthew Berry, on Texans D:
“That team with that defense, Stroud coming back, should not be 100-1 [to win the Super Bowl]!” (06:34)
Joe Burrow's season outlook (Berry):
"Why bring him back? The whole point of bringing him back is to try to save the season. If you lose this game, season’s done." (20:51)
On Josh Allen’s struggles (Berry):
"I think it's a combo. Offensive line a bit worse. Weapons not separating. Play-calling is stale. And Josh just doesn't quite look at the same level." (15:06)
Jay, on Saints QB:
“Tyler Shough...has been very solid his two starts to date.” (48:15)
Berry, on RB depth:
“If you need upside and you need someone to get you 21, Sean Tucker is your go. If you need just 6-7, Rashad White might be a higher floor.” (27:10)
Connor, on waiver RBs:
“I always kind of been into Booty.” (34:44, speaking on Kayshon Boutte as a pickup)
Jay, on Jacoby Brissett:
“The explosion's not going to stop this week and I'll tell you why: Jaguars are the premier pass funnel defense.” (35:05)
Dr. Denny Carter (on fantasy WRs in cold weather):
“Despite the cold, I think that [Luther Burden] can still perform. He can still get it done.” (39:10)
On the difference between Star Wars and Star Trek fans:
“That's how liberty dies, with thunderous applause. And then he believes Star Wars over Star Trek—you're right on that, Medici.” (45:05)
This episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating late-week injury chaos, tough start/sit decisions, and those looking to make the most of the last-minute waiver wire. Even in the face of frustrating fantasy performances, the crew keeps things constructive, insightful, and highly entertaining.
Quotes, moments, and insights are timestamped above for easy reference.