Seahawks at Cardinals Reaction + Jayden Daniels, Davante Adams injury updates

Summary

Fantasy Football Happy Hour with Matthew Berry

Episode: Seahawks at Cardinals Reaction + Jayden Daniels, Davante Adams Injury Updates
Date: September 26, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of Fantasy Football Happy Hour with Matthew Berry dives deep into the Thursday Night Football matchup between the Seattle Seahawks and Arizona Cardinals, gives pointed fantasy analysis about notable injuries (including Jayden Daniels, Davante Adams, and others), and answers listener questions ahead of Week 4. The team also jokes about "Point Break," tackles the evolving backfields, and debates season-long player value shifts after Thursday’s action.

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Key Discussion & Insights

1. Seahawks at Cardinals: Thursday Night Football Fantasy Breakdown

Timestamp: 06:19 – 24:15

Main Stories:

• Game Summary: Dull first three quarters, late-game fireworks led by Kyler Murray, Seattle’s defensive dominance, and rising (or floundering) playmaker narratives.

• Kyler Murray & Cardinals Offense (06:54+):

  • Kyler Murray struggled for three quarters but rallied late, scoring both his touchdowns in the fourth.
    • “It was not clicking... getting physically dominated the whole first half... couldn’t get it going. Credit to their defense, but we just have to make more plays.” – Kyler Murray postgame (07:00)
    • Berry and crew point out that Murray “got no help” – his offensive line was overwhelmed, receivers weren’t getting separation, and the scheme feels “in the mud.” (08:00–09:45)
  • On fantasy:
    • Kyler is “just a QB2 right now,” more of a hold due to his rushing, but not a confidence starter in single-QB leagues.
    • Berry: “I just would not want Kyler Murray as my starting quarterback.” (14:19)
    • “Kyler has traditionally struggled against the Seahawks... all of it, not just on him.” (08:00–09:12)

• Marvin Harrison Jr.

  • “A tale of two halves”—quiet early, finishes with 6 catches, 66 yards, TD. (06:20)
  • Noted for “bad body language,” first-half struggles, then rebounded with a highlight grab.
    • “Even the touchdown Marvin Harrison caught... amazing catch, but didn’t have separation!” – Berry (08:00)
    • He’s seeing more targets (10), but efficiency and chemistry lacking: only one game over 60% catch rate so far; 46th in yards/target among high-volume WRs (10:26–11:26).
    • Debate: Sell high? “If you can get a reasonable RB2 for him, I’d do it. You didn’t draft him to be a shaky WR3.” (10:26–11:41)
  • Comps: Would you rather have Marvin Harrison Jr. or Jalen Warren? “Warren.” Or “Javonte Williams, assuming health.” (11:41–12:05)

• Trey Benson & the Cardinals Backfield

  • With James Conner out, Benson inherits Conner’s early-down role (but not the full workload).
  • “I think this is just... people thought Benson would get the full Conner + Benson split; instead, Benson gets Conner’s role, and Amari Demercado gets Benson’s old third-down work.” (16:00)
  • Production underwhelming, but 13 touches, over 50% of snaps, still primary guy. Team reiterates: Don’t panic, “I’d try to buy low” if someone is selling. (17:23)

• Seahawks Backfield: The Ken Walker / Zach Charbonnet Timeshare

  • “Hope or cope” with Ken Walker’s lack of goal line work? (17:51)
    • Charbonnet sees more red zone/GL touches. Some of it was due to short week, Walker’s injury history, and lingering effects of a taunting penalty.
    • “Walker’s better... just more explosive. He’s who you want, but he’s not getting a Jonathan Taylor workload.”
    • “It’s frustrating to see him lose out on the goal line, but he’s a clear RB2 going forward.” (19:01–20:50)

• Seahawks Receivers

  • JSN and Tori Horton drawing outside snaps, Cup in slot—“Until we see it, JSN is the only reliable start, Horton is an upside stash, and Kupp is droppable nearly everywhere.” (21:40–24:06)
  • “Kupp seems droppable—should I do it? Yes.” – Berry (23:16)

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2. Injury Updates: Jayden Daniels, Davante Adams & More

Timestamp: 24:17 – 35:20

• Jayden Daniels (Commanders, QB) – Out with knee

  • Discussed his disappointment:
    • “It wasn’t like the most like, ‘OK yeah, I’m a sit out.’” – Jayden Daniels on missing time (25:39)
  • Immediate fantasy implication:
    • “Marcus Mariota is the start. He’s been productive in his spot starts for Washington (avg. 19+ FPTS), has a decent rushing floor, but downgrade all Commanders weapons.” (26:48)
    • Terry McLaurin also OUT (35:07).

• Davante Adams (Jets) – Hamstring

  • “This popped up last year and he missed time... if he’s out, it’s the Puka Nacua show.” – Berry (31:52)
  • “No real beneficiary outside of Puka and Kyren Williams.” (32:14)

• Other Notables:

  • Justin Fields (Jets, QB) – Concussion, “trending toward playing,” juicy matchup vs. Dolphins.
  • Chuba Hubbard, DeAndre Swift – banged up but returned to practice.
  • Brandon Aiyuk – “not close” to returning.

• Malik Nabers (Giants, WR): Shoulder, returned to practice; Berry bullish on production with Jackson Dart at QB. (36:13)

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3. Trade/Rest of Season Debates (11:41–13:55)

• WR3 range for Marvin Harrison led to debates:
  • “Would you rather have him or Brian Thomas Jr.?”
    • “Brian Thomas Jr., if you trust the offense more.”
  • Ongoing pessimism about Cardinals, Jaguars, and their respective QBs (“maybe just trade Kyler Murray for Trevor Lawrence; see if change of scene helps”).

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4. Listener Power Rankings and Community Banter

Timestamp: 48:18–50:15

• The team ranks regular chat users by “contribution,” “tenure,” and “iconic moments”—Clark Brady comes in #1, followed by names like JStabs, Stuntman Chuck 85, etc.
• “All done scientifically—we had an entire spreadsheet... nine of us stuck in a conference room arguing into the night!” – Berry (49:22)
• Lighthearted fun and inside jokes, community blending with analysis (especially during “What’s On Tap” Q&A).

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5. What’s On Tap: Start/Sit Listener Q&A

Timestamp: 50:15–53:50

• Sit/Start recommendations:
  • Etienne vs. Judkins: “I’d bench ETN, target share dropping each week, and the Jags offense just looks broken.” (50:42–51:36)
  • Chubb vs. Trey Tucker, Rashid Shaheed, Cedric Tillman: “Still Chubb, facing a bottom-three run defense, best shot at a score.” (51:47)
  • A.J. Brown, Ricky Pearsall, Alvin Kamara: “Brown is a must-start, too good to put on your bench, even if Kamara is the sexier option in some leagues.” (52:50)
  • “Pierce Hall over Kamara? No. Even Kamara’s not getting enough passing work anymore.” (52:58)
• Strong, actionable advice with context for each player, often referencing advanced stats or matchup notes.

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6. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Kyler Murray (08:00):
  • “I’m going to come off as a Kyler Murray apologist, but ... his line got dominated ... it wasn’t all him.”
• On Marvin Harrison Jr. (09:45):
  • “He looked horrified when they showed him on the sideline ... you started to feel really bad for Marvin Harrison.”
• On Trey Benson’s Usage (16:00):
  • “No, no. Trey Benson has the James Conner role. And now Amare Dimacardo has the Trey Benson role.”
• On Ken Walker’s Role (19:01):
  • “Ken Walker’s better than Zach Charbonnet – he’s just so much more explosive. ... I still think you feel pretty good about starting Ken Walker every single week.”
• On Kupp’s Value (23:16):
  • “Cup seems droppable. Should I just do it? Yes.”
• On Commanders’ QB (26:48):
  • “Three games Marcus Mariota played for Washington: scored at least 19 fantasy points. ... revenge game against the Falcons.”
• Later on Puka Nacua if Adams OUT (32:37):
  • “If Adams isn’t playing, Puka’s prop line should be triple digits, should be a greater than 50% chance at 100 yards.”
• On Malik Nabers’ optimism (37:55):
  • “I think he’s going to elevate this offense... Brian Dable’s actually a good play caller... just never been given the right weapons.”
• On Injury News (35:20):
  • “Jayden Daniels and Terry McLaurin both ruled out. That is super annoying for my team—and for the Commanders.”
• Pop Culture Bantz
  • Multiple “Point Break” references (“He was the quarterback for Ohio State, can you not find out he became an FBI agent?” – Berry, 04:18)

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7. Dr. Denny Carter’s Flexual Frustrations Segment

Timestamp: 39:27–44:42

Dr. Carter’s signature segment offering deep dive flex plays:

• Trey Tucker:
  • “Trey Tucker is a good play. He’s second on this team in first-read targets at 25%... He’s top 20 among all receivers in air yards.”
• Sterling Shepard:
  • “If you wanted Mike Evans but he’s out, you have to settle for Sterling Shepard. Four catches, 80 yards. He’s a viable flex in deeper formats.”
• Luke McCaffrey in desperation:
  • “If you play Christian, Ed, Billy—and now Luke—McCaffrey, you can keep it going this week. He’ll probably be a full-time receiver.”

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8. Pickup Lines: Bet Picks of the Weekend

Timestamp: 57:12–58:15

• Josh Jacobs Longest Rush Over 14.5 yards: “If you get 20 carries against the Cowboys, how do you not break one for 15?”
• Chargers -6 over Giants: “Tough draw for rookie Jackson Dart; Chargers rolling, line reflects big advantage.”

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------|--------------| | Opening, Point Break Banter | 01:31–04:35 | | Seahawks-Cardinals Recap | 06:19–24:15 | | Injury Updates (Daniels, Adams, more) | 24:17–35:20 | | Malik Nabers/NYG Talk | 36:13–38:56 | | Dr. Denny Carter Flex Advice | 39:27–44:42 | | Listener Power Rankings | 48:18–50:15 | | What’s On Tap (Q&A) | 50:15–53:50 | | Pickup Lines / Best Bets | 57:12–58:15 |

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Conclusion & Tone

The episode mixes upbeat, inside-joke-filled banter with sharp, actionable fantasy advice. The hosts poke fun at themselves (“I am the Sterling Shepard of my wife’s love life”), hammer on pop culture (Point Break!), and turn critical on players/offenses when warranted. Each fantasy opinion is backed by statistics, usage trends, or matchup context, making it accessible for seasoned managers and newcomers alike. Listener engagement—via power rankings and mailbag—is very much a part of the show’s DNA.

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For those who missed the show:
This episode covered everything you’d need to adjust your Week 4 lineups based on the Seahawks-Cardinals game, process key injury news, reassess trade targets (especially Marvin Harrison Jr.), and get some sharp start/sit and waiver advice. If you need a blend of sharply written, statistically sound analysis with a community barstool tone, it’s all here.

Transcript

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Was the best movie of 1991? That's an easy one. Point Break. Point Break was the best movie of 1991. And everything else was playing for second. Keanu Reeves lets Patrick Swayze go out into the ocean. He's like, what am I gonna do? Swim to New Zealand? And then Keanu Reeves comes back to the beach and the Australian cop. So I talk like an Australian. The cop in this film's like, why'd you let him go mate?

[A]

It's not our Australian story.

[E]

Could you not have hired an Australian actor?

[F]

He just thought, if you say mate, he good. Let me talk like I'm in London.

[A]

But let me say mate.

[E]

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[A]

Unbelievable. Hi. We missed him. Should we go get some shrimp on the Bobby. Right.

[B]

Fantasy Football Happy hour with Matthew Barry.

[A]

Happy Friday.

[F]

Welcome to the Fantasy Football Happy hour, home of horrific Australian impression. Yeah, that impression wasn't an actual Australian.

[A]

Yeah, he's actually.

[E]

But Australian impression is great.

[A]

Yeah, My. My shrimp on the barbie there was like. It wasn't Australian, but it wasn't London. It wasn't anything. It was bad.

[F]

I couldn't tell you what it was. Hybrid.

[A]

There's a lot of things that I can't do in this world, and accents are one of them.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

If anyone doesn't watch Point Break, you're missing out because it's one of the great films. No one, no one doesn't enjoy the experience. You can doubt its cinematic merit is one of the Great films of 1991, but no one has a bad time. Matthew watching Point Break.

[B]

Sure.

[E]

Staining.

[A]

But what's. What's insane is that this came up on the pre show production call is that neither of these guys were actually alive. Point Break was released in 1990. Summer release.

[F]

Yeah, I just missed it.

[E]

People don't understand that. I actually. I entered the world as a result of Point Break coming out because I just knew that I had to get there, see what the world could produce with greatness.

[A]

I thought maybe. Are you saying your parents, like, got romantic after seeing Keanu Reeves?

[E]

I was like, well, now this film.

[F]

That'S kind of what I thought.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I was.

[F]

Rather than him sprinting to the world to watch the movie, it was more.

[E]

So that, wow, the world can produce such greatness that we need to produce new life to witness the greatness of Point Break. Keanu Reeves learning to surf at the time for no reason whatsoever. Just learn to surf in the day. It's a lot simpler.

[A]

Like, I know I'm old, but here's what's sad, is, like you in 1991, when Point Break was released in theaters, you guys were both. You guys were both in your mother's bellies. You got some of your mother's bellies. And I was a junior at Syracuse. Oh, my God. All right, question for Jay from Ace Degenerate. Would Johnny Utah have made the hall of Fame if he didn't get injured? That is a Point Break reference.

[E]

Here's the thing. There's so many things that are ridiculous about the movie Point Break. Maybe the one of the most ridiculous ones. So Johnny Utah, Keanu Reeves character was allegedly like the quarterback for Ohio State and then becomes an FBI agent who then goes undercover with bank robbers who dress up as former presidents who are also amazing surfers.

[A]

Which is just ridiculous.

[F]

90S plots were out there.

[E]

He was the quarterback for Ohio State. Can you not find out that he became an FBI agent?

[A]

Yeah. Is that not out there in the world? The quarterback of Ohio State is generally a fairly well known individual. It's probably not the best. Best path to become an undercover FBI, Pat. Yeah. Exactly. Can you just imagine.

[E]

I understand there wasn't the Internet. But I feel like that's out there.

[A]

Right.

[E]

Don't do FBI training.

[A]

Yeah. CJ Stroud is solving crimes all of a sudden like that. But nobody. Nobody knows who it is. Nobody knows who it is. All right. Lots to get to today. It is a Tracksuit Friday. It is.

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And you know why?

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Why is it?

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Because it's the last real Tracksuit Friday. This is our last Friday show that our researcher Big show is with us. So he drink.

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Big show drinks for free today. It is his. His last show here with us on the happy hour. There he is. Look at this guy. Drinking for free. There he is. There's Big show in all of his glory.

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Mr.

[E]

Cool.

[A]

Yeah. Fit right in with Patrick Swayze a thousand percent. Yeah. Put that guy on a surfboard 100%. We should have had that happen. So I think we'll have him back for another pregame. But this is his last happy hour. Big in the. In the big. NBC Versant split. Unfortunately. We lost Big Show.

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There was a draft.

[A]

Yeah.

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We got a second round pick back.

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Yeah.

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Which we used on Medium Show.

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We traded future assets. We allowed Big show to go. We're trying to new research Show.

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Medium Show. Yeah.

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Who's like probably 20 years younger. We're rebuilding. Clearly. We're rebuilding here at the Fantasy Football Happy Hour. We'll see how it goes. The jets have been rebuilding for 20 years. So sometimes these things take a while. Anyway, Shout out to all the regulars in the chat right now. Happy Friday to you. We got a lot to get through. We're going to answer all of your questions during what's on tap. We're going to give some power rankings of the regulars. By the way, we've been hyping this up for a while. So if you've been active in the chat, if a lot of your questions have been shown, you might get a shout out on today's show. We got pickup lines at the end of the show. Matthew will choose one of our bets going into the weekend. We'll see how he fares. And of course, we start with Thursday Night Football, which got wildly entertaining at the end. A bit of A game that felt like it got.

[A]

It was snoozy for a while.

[F]

Snoozy is the exact perfect word to put it as we look at the notable fantasy point scorers in Seattle, Arizona. Marvin Harrison Jr. A tale of two halves for him. Same with Kyler Murray for a variety of reasons. The Seahawks, for odd reasons, never really wanted the ball in Sam Darnold's hands in the biggest moments of this game. But Sam played very well.

[A]

Yeah, I did. I agree with that.

[F]

Jackson, Smith and Jig but a goose egg in the first half. He came alive in the second half. But I think the story, guys, was just how slow of a start through three quarters it was for the Arizona offense. And Kyler Murray spoke on that right after the game.

[H]

It wasn't clicking. It was not clicking, you know, pretty much getting physically dominated whole first half. And you know, it's frustrating because you watch the defense go out there, get stop after stop after stop. And offensively just like we just couldn't get it going, you know, Couldn't get it going. Credit to their defense, but we got to make. We just got to make more plays. We got to.

[A]

We got.

[H]

Gotta show up, be ready to go, you know what I mean? It's like we're just loading, you know what I mean? And it's taking too long. You know, obviously the resilience of the team is you love to see it and you feel like, give yourself a chance to win the game at the end, but it's just too late.

[F]

Fourth quarter, Kyler against the Seahawks. Much better than the first 3/4 of Kyler as he got things going. Both of his touchdowns came in the fourth quarter.

[A]

He had the one big run. Yeah.

[F]

To be fair, the second interception, the interception that Marv just bobbed.

[A]

Yeah, that one's not.

[F]

That's not on Kyler Murray. But that was kind of the story of this game. It felt like for a while was the problems between both of them.

[A]

Again, I'm going to come off as a Kyler Murray apologist and I don't. I actually don't mean to be because I don't think he's been good this year just in general. But I will say for this specific game, his offensive line got dominated. It's a short week, right. The Thursday games, I don't. It's. That's hard to sort of get a full game plan and to prepare. And one of the reasons why, Jay, that you and I, we had Kyler Murray on the hate list on yesterday's love hate show is because he has traditionally struggled against the Seahawks, against Mike McDonald's offense, like, nothing that happened yesterday was a surprise again, like, he was under pressure constantly. His wide receivers aren't getting separation. I mean, even the. Even the touchdown that Marvin Harrison caught, which was an amazing catch, but, like, he didn't have. I mean, like, it was a jump ball that he basically had to, like, you know, take. Like, so Marv's not getting any separation other than Trey McBride. He doesn't seem to really have a, you know, a go to guy that's. That's open, that's winning on routes. And so I just, I'm not trying to apologize for Kyler Murray because I don't think he's played well this year, but on this particular night, I think it wasn't all him. Like, there's just all of it, you know. And again, the Seahawks. The Seahawks are one of the best defenses in the NFL. Yeah, I.

[E]

Not really a Kyler Murray guy. I'm not sure there are many Kyle Murray guys out there at this point, but at the same time, the past two weeks, he's been completely screwed by everything around him. Yes, he did enough to win the game against the Niners. And his receivers, all of them just dropped everything inside, outside. Trey McBride. And then last night, he gets screwed again on the interception. I don't think his scheme is really helping him either. It's just so in the mud, this Arizona offense. There's no explosives down the field. Marvin Harrison in the first half was like Anthony Volpe throwing a first base. Like he just had the yips. Like he just didn't seem like he was ready to be out there.

[F]

Story, like it was the national story during the game, whether it was on, whether you were on Twitter during the game, how much they were talking about his body language. He looked horrified when they showed him on the sideline, where you started to feel really bad for Marvin Harrison.

[E]

Yeah, it's so funny. Whenever the Seahawks would, like, a wide receiver would make a catch, they'd cut to Marvin Harrison on the sidelines. That's how you do it, Marv.

[A]

In two hands.

[F]

Just bring it in.

[E]

It's just not that hard.

[A]

Yeah, it's. It's. Yeah.

[E]

I mean, from a fantasy perspective with the Cardinals, I don't think there's really that much to take away. Like, you still got to start Marvin Harrison Jr. Even if he's like a wide receiver. 3. At this point, he's starting Trey McBride. Trey Benson looked fine for the most part and got the usage. And then Kyle is a QB2 at this point. You've just still got to stop because.

[A]

Of the rushing 25% target share for Marvin Harrison. He was below 21% each of its first three games. Right. Got 10 targets in this one. Obviously we just talked about the touchdown. 6 for 66. He's had an end zone target in three or four games this year. But you know he's got only one game this year with a catch rate above 60%. Like it's insane to think about that. Like you know that he can't even get to a 60% catch rate. And among. Among wide receivers that have at least 75 targets since the start of last season, Marvin Harrison is 46th in yards per target. 46th. I actually wonder Jay, in season long leagues and dynasty I'm still holding out hope for him. But in season long leagues off of this performance 18.6. You know he's going to finish the week as likely a top 10 fantasy wide receiver. Do you sell high ish on him? I think you do. I am nervous about this entire Cardinals offense again. Short week against one of the best defenses in the NFL. I can explain away a lot but I just you know, to your point about the body language about the our overall feelings about the efficiency of Kyla Murray as a quarterback. I just like you didn't draft him to be a wide. A shaky wide receiver 3. Which is what he is.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Without hope for a score.

[E]

Wide receiver 3 question from Donny King who's a reasonable running back to request in a trade offering? Marvin Harrison Jr. I don't know who would you rather have Marvin Harrison Jr. Or like Jalen Warren? Like a kind of Jalen Warren.

[F]

You're either Jalen Warren.

[A]

Yeah, but like I think, but, but I think that like Jalen Warren. Chuba Hubbard.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Tony Pollard, Javante Williams or Marvin Harrison Jr. Javante.

[A]

Think Javante.

[F]

That's scary.

[A]

That's scary. But I just, I, I think, I think assuming health for both guys, I think Javante finishes the year with more touchdowns.

[E]

Who'd you are like Brian Thomas Jr. Or Marvin Harrison?

[F]

Brian Thomas Jr. Marvin Harrison. What's going on in Jacksonville? It's that operation is somehow worse than this one.

[E]

Here's what I was thinking during the first half of that game and as it got out to like 20 to 6 and everything in the second half it's like can't happen. Just trade Kyle Omari for Trevor Lawrence because they're like the same, exact same. Let's just give him a new environment. Let's just See if it clicks them into place because it's like the same deal of former number one picks who look the part at times, but it just doesn't seem to work. And so Marvin Harrison and Brian Thomas Jr. Maybe we can trade them for each other.

[F]

Yeah, it might be a wash. Which is kind of wild to say considering the year BTJ had.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I'm still holding out for, for, for btj.

[F]

It's just like now we have not seen it with Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, no, I get using Mac Jones product for most of last year.

[E]

Mac Jones Merchant.

[A]

Yeah, that's ridiculous. It's insane. I guess the only argument here is.

[E]

That it's like James White Tom Brady.

[A]

Again, it may not be the reason, but at least there's an excuse, there's an explanation. Which is by the way, once again, for what, what is it? The fourth year? Fourth year and you know, fourth time in five years. I don't know exactly what it is. Trevor Lawrence is playing in a new offensive system.

[F]

Right?

[A]

Right. So Liam Cohen came in and like, so it's a new offensive system from the year before then from the year before that. Like it's just, you know, like. So at least I can explain away but like Kyler Murray has been in Jonathan Gannon and Drew Petzig. You know, Gannon's obviously not the, you know, pets is the one who caused the plays, but I'm just saying he's been in this organization, in this regime, in this, in this playbook now for a couple of years. Like at least again that may not be the reason why Lawrence has struggled and maybe just it's never going to click in but that there's at least an argument that's like, hey, it's new versus like by the way, dude, I.

[E]

Think it's a massive red flag how good like Marcus Mariota looks in Cliff Kingsbury's offense. Like why couldn't Kyla Murray, like why couldn't we get that in Arizona? I understand there was one really good year in 2021 when Kyler, by the way, mid season was like the mvp, the top two favorite. But it just, it seems like whatever system for either of those guys, Kyler or Lawrence, it just doesn't really seem to click.

[F]

Let's break down this backfield here guys, because this was the first game without James Conner. I think Matthew, hang on.

[A]

Just to put one actual thing. I just, I would not want Kyler Murray as my starting quarterback. Obviously I see here as a QB one like he salvaged it he finished with 16 fantasy points. And again, the schedule gets a little easier. They've now got 10 days to prepare for Tennessee at home and they're at Indy. You know, home to Green Bay you don't love and then it's a buy. But I just, you know, if you're in a one quarterback league and Kyler Murray's your guy, I think you need somebody different. Now let's get to the backfield heel, which I don't think. I think people are going to look at the box score and be upset if you have Trey Benson. I spent all my fab. I use my number one waiver pick, which I've been holding on for four weeks, blah, blah, to use Trey Benson. Like, and this is what I get. I actually it was encouraged by Trey Benson's usage. Like again, I get the production wasn't there. McCarthy gets the, gets the D. Mark Cardo. Sorry, D Mark Cardo gets the touchdown late, but he got a ton of usage. Even in a game script where they were down, they were down by two touchdowns for much of the game. They weren't getting anything done on the run. Like again, the line got dominated. This is again one of the issues that Kyler had. The defensive line of the Seahawks was dominated in that line on, honestly on both sides of the ball. But you know, like, so there wasn't a lot of running room. But they still stuck with Trey Benson. He gets 13 touches, plays over 50% of the snaps. He still has a 12 and a half percent target share. So they're not using him in a, in a little bit of, you know, in the passing game as well. I think the concern here is that I think people thought that there would be like a. I heard this, I heard this thought on the radio. So. But like I think this is a smart thought on. I was actually listening to Fantasy Life show on, on SiriusXM On My Way in and they brought this up that some people thought that, oh, he's going to get the James Conner and Trey Benson role. No, no. Trey Benson has the James Conner role.

[F]

Right.

[A]

And now Amare Dimacardo has the Trey Benson role.

[E]

Very confusing.

[A]

No, but no, but it's like Nick.

[E]

Cage and John Travolta in Face off. Like switching faces now all of a sudden.

[A]

But no, but just like Trey Benson was the third down. Trey Denson was the third down back. James Connor was in second down back. I got it. I was just trying to move on James Conner. They know what it's like, doesn't it really does it's annoying. I don't know how you guys put up with me. That's all I'm saying is just that James Conner had the first and second down role and Benson they were using on third down somewhat and now with Conor out they've moved Benson into that first and second down role but he's not keeping the third down role he had. They've elevated Amari Dmercado. The touchdown. I think again they were in comeback mode. They used him some more in the two minutes. I feel like that was just a result of him right place, right time, that that was the play. Like I don't, I don't think he's going to get vultured a lot at the goal line when they're scoring opportunities. I'm still in on Trey Benson as an RB2ish kind of guy.

[E]

Yeah, I mean they just have an opportunity to run the ball. They were down the whole game. They're also facing the Seahawks run defense which kept Christian McCaffrey to like the least efficient game of his career. Just about 22 for 69 or whatever it was in week one. It's four days after James Conner went down for the season. Like let's give it some more time to breathe. But Trey Benson is clearly the guy and it's still going to be a run heavy offense for the most part.

[A]

Yeah, DeMarcusado played 93% of the long down and distance and the two minute snap. So again when they're, when they're in that hurry up and they're at the end of the game, that's why he's in there. He gets the swing pass and gets into the end zone. But ultimately I think Benson will be just fine. If there's a panicked manager in your league, I wouldn't mind trying to buy low on Benson after this week as well because he is going to be the main guy for which I know doesn't look like a functional offense but I do think better days are ahead. I don't think they'd be great but I think they're not as bad as they've shown.

[F]

Let's get to the other backfield here. Jay. Is it hope or cope that Ken Walker will one day get some goal line work in this backfield? Because it's just Zach Charbonnet.

[A]

Hope or cope. It rhymes. Yes.

[E]

Yeah, no, it's a great little. It's a great device as we say. Yes. Look, I think Ken Walker. So we got vultured for the touchdown from Zach Charbonnet but that was coming off like, Ken Walker was kind of owning that drive. I think he had a longish run or a energy taxing run before Charbonnet came in to get that one. Here's the thing, Ken Walker's better than Zach Charbonnet. He's just so much more explosive. He looks a lot better. And also here's the thing too, is that, yes, 52% snap rate for Ken Walker versus 45% for Zac Charbonnet. I think they got upset because Ken Walker had the taunting penalty because he was like dominating the work until that point. And then they were like, come on, Ken, what are you doing? And then he just didn't get snaps for a while. I think if you take that taunting penalty out, I think he gets more snaps and I think that. Look, in terms of who do you want in this backfield? It's clearly Ken Walker. Will he become like a workhorse, legit RB1 who's getting like Jonathan Taylor workload? No, because he's injury prone and a demands a certain amount of work. But I still think you feel pretty good about starting Ken Walker every single week.

[A]

Yeah, I think you just have lower expectations. The other thing to consider, again, so it's a short week on the road that they had to travel, like a week after, whatever, three days after, Ken Walker gets a big workload on Sunday, now they have to go on Thursday. So certainly wanting to give, especially given his injury history, hey, we don't want to just three days after, you know, a big game have you have another massive workload. So I think that was part of it. Wanted to get Charbonnet back in the mix. The other thing that I think is interesting here though, Walker, I agree with you. Walker's more explosive. He looks bigger, he looks faster and sort of like it is weird when they get in the goal line and they're giving it to Charbonnet. You're like, wait, that guy who literally, like three guys had to pick him up and push him into the end zone, like, he wasn't there. He wasn't able to get in the end zone on his own. He just had to get a bunch of help as well. And he got stuffed on another attempt. But the one thing he does do is he moves forward. Like, he just keeps pushing forward even if he can't do anything with it. But like Ken Walker, a couple times it drove me crazy. Like, he would run and then he would run backwards.

[F]

Like Calais Campbell wins with a swim move. And he's like, I don't want anything to do with this. And he just runs backwards.

[A]

And then.

[F]

He got tackled anyway.

[A]

Exactly. And so he's losing yardage. And so you certainly, you'd rather be stuffed on the one yard line than have somebody run backwards. Now you're on the fourth. You're on the four yard line. When active this season, Zach Charbonnet has 63% of goal line rushes and 56% of the red zone rushes compared with Ken Walker. 44%, 48%. So they're both getting about half the work in the red zone of the goal line with the edge to Charbonnet. But ultimately I agree with you. In weeks in which both guys are healthy, I will have Walker ranked as a top 20 running back and Charbonnet is more of a, you know, hope he scores flex.

[E]

Yeah, I would think of Ken Walker. To me, he's like rich, rich man's Rashad Penny where it's the same explosiveness. Kind of some boom or bust aspects. All the talent in the world, but health concerns and probably needs to be managed now. Ken Walker has reached a much higher sustained peak than Rashad Penny got to. Rashad penny out of six final six weeks of 2021. Whereas, like him and Jonathan Taylor were the two best running backs in football.

[A]

Yeah, he was like the point break of those six weeks.

[E]

Point. That's a disservice to point break, which has had a much. Six weeks.

[A]

Yeah, those six weeks.

[E]

Yeah. Like what? In the summer of 1991. Point Break lives on. Rashad painting. No one's going to remember in 20 years.

[A]

I'm sorry, I didn't think we were going to talk about.

[F]

I was going to say 20 years.

[E]

He was really good for a little stretch.

[F]

Four games.

[E]

Always a believer.

[A]

Six games.

[E]

But look, Ken Walker is the guy you want in that backfield. Charbonnet is a desperation flex type of guy.

[F]

Our last fantasy combo from this game, guys, is the wide receiver two spot for Seattle. I mean, it's a reality. Matthew Cooper Cup. Another not so great performance. Torrey Horton. We've seen flashes this year. Is this a scenario where Horton's going to eventually take over Kupp's role or do you think they're just so defined roles within Kubiak's offense?

[A]

Yeah, that's a. I think, I think there's a scenario where Tori Horton is the better fantasy play, but it just feels like it's going to be JSN and Horton on the outside. Cup is still in the middle. Look, plate had only a 39% on Thursday night. That was at 62% in weeks one through three. But you know, they tried to get connect with him on the, on the deep ball like and if he comes down with it, it's a touchdown. It's. It's probably a different scenario. I think there's reasons to be bullish and optimistic about Tori Horton, but it does feel like until we see it, Jackson, Smith and Jigba is the only guy that you can feel confident starting in this Seahawks passing attack. I know that AJ Barna, the tight end catches a touchdown and they like him there, but just doesn't feel like there's enough volume. And even though Darnold looked good, like.

[E]

Darnold, very good this year.

[A]

Yeah, I'm not a pro Darnold guy this year going to Seattle, but they protected him better than I thought they would and he has looked better than I thought he would in Clint Kubiak's offense. There's no question.

[E]

I don't think they're a 15 quarterbacks in the NFL better than Sam Donald. The way that he's shown like his, his month this year has validated a lot of what he did last year. I think the most interesting thing this passing game is that you mentioned it briefly. JSN lines up outside 80% of the time after being like 74% in the slot last year. So Cooper cup is the slot receiver, JSN is the Axe and Tory Horton is the other outside guy. I don't think you want any part of Horton and Kupp though. For fantasy purposes.

[A]

Chicago Triumph asks Cup seems droppable. Should I just do it when that time comes? Yes.

[F]

Yeah, I don't think there's no reason to roster them.

[A]

I mean I will tell you, if Kupp were available in. I have Kupp in two leagues and only two leagues and they're both dynasty leagues. One is a 33 man roster, 12 team, 33 man rosters. Another is a 12 team, 25 man rosters. And I can't drop them just because in those leagues anyone with a pulse. But like I wish like. And I haven't started like, you know, anyway. Well, I started him in one of the leagues, the league that I'm tanking in. I actively tried to start him but in the rebuilding year. But the league where I'm currently in first place in, I'm undefeated in that league. That dynasty league. Yeah. Not our league. Yeah. I'm just, you know, anyway, so yeah, cup is definitely droppable in season one. Honestly, he's droppable everywhere. Just not there's the can't Imagine sustained fantasy success for him at the moment.

[E]

He's rich. Man's 2025. Robert woods, his former teammate.

[A]

Wow.

[E]

It's basically what he is.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

So, yeah, yeah, I have him on my team. I'm upset about it.

[A]

I don't blame you.

[E]

I'm dropping.

[A]

Okay. I will not pick him up.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Here's our week four injuries we're tracking heading into the weekend. You're going to want to keep an eye on all of these. Jaden Daniels with the knee. We'll get back to him in just a second. Justin Fields working his way out of concussion protocol. Brock Purdy has been practicing with both the shoulder and more importantly the toe injury. Josh Jacobs as well with an ankle. Chuba Hubbard with a calf. Deandre Swift with a hip. Malik Nabors returned to practice on Thursday with that shoulder injury. Devonte Adams has not logged a practice either Wednesday or Thursday. So let's keep an eye on him Friday as he deals with another hamstring injury. As a reminder, he had that last year before he was traded to the Jets. T. Mac Teodoroa McMillan dealing with a cap. Juwan Jennings, who missed last week, is a guy that can typically go without much practice and still play, so there's still some hope, but he hasn't long practice either. Let's start with command with the commanders. Jaden Daniels, who was limited on Thursday, we got to hear from the commander's franchise quarterback on how his knee feels and how he wanted to play last week.

[E]

I'm a football player. At the end of the day, you know, he might take some shots here and there, and it wasn't stopping me from going out there and finishing the game. So I finished the game.

[F]

And then what was your reaction when Coach Quinn told you that you weren't going to be out there on Sunday?

[E]

I'll leave that between me and Hill. It wasn't. Wasn't like the most like. Okay, yeah, I'm a sit out.

[A]

So can you give us an assessment of where you are right now as far as come Sunday?

[E]

It's up to the doctors, not my decision for you. I mean, where do you think you're.

[A]

At and feel good?

[F]

This is from Tom Pelissero. Commander's quarterback Jaden Daniels and wide receiver Terry McLaurin, who's dealing with a quad, are not on the field for the second start of practice. McLaurin hasn't practiced all week and likely will miss Sunday's game versus Atlanta. While Daniels was limited the past two days, with his status up to the doctors, which we just heard him say. Side note as well. Bill did not practice on Thursday.

[A]

Jacori, Krosky, Merritt, he's back at practice today. So is Chuba Hubbard. We'll get. But just talk about the commanders. I think you're without. I think you're without Terry McLaurin here. I think you'll see some Luke McCaffrey. I think you'll see some Chris Moore, maybe some. You know, obviously it will be a big Deebo game. And Zach Ertz. Zach Ertz, who scored two touchdowns last year against the Falcons. So I think you'll see a lot of that. Nervous about Jaden Daniels missing this game again for him not practicing on Friday. You're like me with the Pens. You just dropped your sheet. You can go ahead and get it.

[E]

Go forward.

[A]

Yeah, go ahead and get it while I talk up Marcus Moriota. There you go. Thank you very much. Look, the three games that Marcus Mariota has played for Washington scored at least 19 fantasy points and all of them over the last two years. He's averaging over nine yards per pass attempt. He's averaging 43 rushing yards in those games. He's got two rushing touchdowns. And don't forget, this is a revenge game against the Falcons for Marcus Mariota. It's nice because most of the teams in the NFL are actually a revenge game for Marcus Mariota.

[F]

You've been going through this over and over again.

[A]

Exactly. I think the commander scheduled Oregon in week 15. Just, he would be a. I mean, look, the Falcons. The Falcons have the number one pass defense in the NFL through the first three weeks of the season.

[E]

A little fraudulent.

[A]

It's a little fraudulent. I, you know, I get it. But like, I don't.

[F]

McCarthy aided completely.

[A]

McCarthy. McCarthy aided. But I think this is a big game for the Falcons. So I think Mariota would be a high end QB2 this week. For me, if he does end up getting the start right, like, I just, I don't think he'll be as good on the road at Atlanta as he was at home against Las Vegas last week. This is a big game for the Falcons. They need like, they, they don't want to go to one of three. The Buccaneers are three and oh, with a chance to go to four and oh, we'll see. They got a tough game against the Eagles, but still, like, you don't want to sit there and go like, if the Bucs are four.

[E]

No.

[A]

And we're one and three, like, that's.

[E]

Game over for the.

[A]

Game over for the division. Right.

[E]

Missing the first half of the tiebreak as well. Having lost to the BUCS in week one, I think it's instructive that DraftKings has the Falcons as one and a half point favorites in this game. So that is an indication that Jayne Daniels is not going to play. At least that's the market. So best guess at this moment, I think that neutral field, the Commanders are about four points better than the Falcons. And if Daniels was going to play, this line would be more like Commanders minus two and a half, minus three, that kind of range. So I suspect that it's probably going to be Mariota, though. We'll see. It's not 100 confirmed. Feel better about Daniels playing the McLaren.

[A]

There's no question about the fact that he was limited in practice and sometimes, and I don't know, candidly, I don't actually know if Dan Quinn does this, but. But there are some teams that will do this because in essence, basically, when you have a practice like this, there's a portion of the practice that is open to the public or at least open to the media that they can report on what they see. And then the media leaves and then they do whatever they want. Connor, you know this as well. Like, you'll go to practice and then they get rid of you. Then they're like, Connor, you say, well, yeah, you. Because you're special.

[F]

Yeah, sure, I hang around. I'm standing right on the 50 yard line.

[A]

All right, fair enough.

[E]

Yep. But unbelievable to the Matthew stole your Oregon joke about.

[A]

And then.

[E]

And that insults me.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And that insults you. I'm going to use that joke on Tuesday.

[F]

Don't worry, we got one for him. Because the regulars don't really like Matthew. Stuntman Chuck 85 Barry has the pen security of Ramontre Stevens. Wow, that was really good.

[A]

That's actually pretty good, Chuck. That's actually pretty good. Yeah, well, you know, I don't have an excuse. I did. I absolutely stole your joke. Whatever. I care who remembers if you're actually here, if you're doing another joke.

[F]

That's very Hollywood writer of you.

[A]

Yeah, you sleaze.

[F]

Balls.

[A]

Anyway, back to back to practice.

[F]

Connor, you see your own material here.

[A]

Come on. What do you got back to. I'm trying to get back on track to give fantasy advice, you animals. Which is that there's a scenario where Jaden Daniels is practicing today. He's just not. Just not open to the public. We'll see what the. Or the media. I should say. So we'll see.

[F]

What's very annoyed by the Way too. That he's not playing.

[A]

Yes.

[F]

You don't see a lot of that from Jane Daniels.

[E]

He's kind of a, you know, chill guy.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Very, very chill guy. Very, very professional. So. So we'll see obviously. But it is, you know, the doctors are not. If there's instability in that knee, if there's any kind of concern, you're not. He's the franchise. They're not going to risk it for just one game. Especially because, you know, they're two and one and they obviously want to win this game. But if they go to two and two, it's not the end of the world.

[F]

Another quarterback who did not play last week trying to get on the field.

[A]

Either way, have a make sure you have a replacement for Jaden Dan.

[F]

Justin Fields has a little bit more time because the jets are playing Monday Night Football. He's working his way out of concussion protocol. He was back at practice yesterday. You have to log a practice as one of the steps to get out of concussion protocol. Aaron Glenn said if he's cleared, he's going to start. So they're not messing around with this one. That it's any competition between him and Tyrod Taylor. And Miami has been one of the worst defenses against quarterbacks in fantasy all year. I think they're giving up an average of 29 points, second most fantasy points.

[A]

Second most fantasy points to quarterback. And no team's giving him. No team has given up more rushing touchdowns to opposing quarterbacks than the Miami Dolphins. And of course, obviously Justin Fields with his leg. So I would. I have him at Q. I'm expecting him to play. I have him at QB7 this week. So I think, you know, assuming all systems go and we should learn that before Sunday morning before you have to make your line of decisions. To your point, they're a day behind because of the Monday night game. So this is really a Thursday practice for them. But. But assuming he's clear and he's ready to go right back in your lineup.

[F]

Devonte Adams, as I said, is not logged to practice. He didn't practice on Thursdays in with the hamstring J. I think what's concerning about this one is as much as Devontae's a veteran, he can kind of just go on any given day. Is that this popped up last year with him and he missed some time.

[E]

Yeah, that's a concern. Also a concern that. So he scores the bomb touchdown against the Eagles early on and then just basically just unsighted for the rest of the game. That's just the Puka Nukua show exclusively. So the fact that if he doesn't practice today, you suspect that he's probably not going to go and pukinakua might have 25 targets in that game. If if Devonte doesn't go. I don't think Matthew there's anyone else who's really interested like Jordan Whittington is a.

[A]

No, no.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

No, no. It would be Kyron Williams and Puka Nakua. No. We have never seen anyone step up in a. You know, when this guy goes down, the other guy gets you comp by.

[E]

The way as a proper side because the market often struggles to deal with like huge outlier situations. Like if Devontae can't go like Puka's the entire passing game.

[F]

Right.

[E]

And right now Puga said at 89 and a half and if Devontae is out it'll probably bump up to like 94, 95. If Devontae Adams isn't playing Puga Naku is prop line should be triple digits like he should be. He should. He will be greater than 50 chance to get 100 yards.

[A]

I think yeah, I would probably. Honestly if Adams is out, I'd probably ladder bat that ladder bet that at like 100, 110. What you know, I mean like I would just keep going up because there's a 150. There's a chance that he goes for 150 in this game. Yep.

[E]

He's also no Kenny Moore. So it's Mike Hilton who they signed like four days ago off the street to play and you know, defend Pukinakua in game one. So good luck our next one.

[F]

Matthew, good news for your your gutless roster. Xavier Worthy practice again.

[A]

Oh yeah. Apparently that not only lost, you know, Mike Evans and everyone else but also yeah, I might not have Jaden Daniels this week, you know, again.

[F]

Well, it sounds like you're going to have Xavier Worthy.

[A]

Yes.

[F]

Full practice on Thursday and boy do the Chiefs need something at wide receiver that isn't just Tyquan Thornton.

[A]

There's no question. And I was asked, I did the Dan LeBatard show earlier today and I was asked like what does he bring to this chief's offense? I said I think it's. It helps him with the long again as we've talked about on the show. Like he doesn't look right Mahomes in terms of the especially the long passing, the deep pass attempts. And so Worthy, who has more of a connection with Tyquan than he does with Tyquan Thornton at this point should certainly help him. I'm at wide receiver 40. I don't know if he plays a full complement of snaps. The Chiefs offense has obviously been inconsistent so far, but yes, you can throw on the Ravens. That defense has been bad. Only one team has given up more passing yards per game than the Baltimore Ravens through three games this season. So I do think because that offense needs a boost that they'll, you know, or they'll get a shot or two. Now, whether they connect or not remains to be seen, but it depends on your league. I'm at wide receiver 40, but in our league, I'm starting them in praying.

[E]

Yeah, it's funny. On DraftKings there are three Chiefs receivers who have set between 40 and 48 and a half receiving yards or pass catches rather, because Kelsey is one of them alongside Hollywood Brown, I think Xavier Worthy's 48 and a half. And then the packers as well. They have four guys set between 40 and 44 and a half. So it's like draft user. Basically you guys pick it out, right? Who knows with all these guys, two.

[A]

Of these guys are going to go under. You guys got to. You figure out who's. Who's hitting it.

[F]

Sounds like we have some breaking news. Jaden Daniels has officially been ruled out while we were sitting here. Marcus Mariota will start again Sunday. This is from the official commander's account, by the way.

[E]

Good source.

[F]

That's pretty good source. You want me to tweet at them and ask source.

[A]

Oh, and Terry McLaurin officially out as well. Just got that alert, so. That is super annoying. That is super annoying. That's super annoying for my team. That's super annoying for. For the commanders. Sigh.

[E]

It's all right. Marcus Mariota.

[A]

Marcus Mariota. Yeah.

[E]

According to you, one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever live.

[A]

Sure.

[F]

It's actually a reverse revenge game. Cause he kind of quit on the Falcons.

[A]

Yeah, it's true. Yeah.

[E]

You get revenge on him.

[A]

No, that's true.

[F]

So this is the reverse revenge game.

[A]

That's true. It's a good point. It's a good point.

[F]

We'll see how it goes for Marcus Mario to. All right, we got a question. Oh, wow. That tricked me.

[A]

You did that. See what they did to me? Yeah, they gave the sound and you're like, oh, it must be a question that we have to answer. No, it's not a question. It's just a.

[F]

What's going on?

[E]

Unbelievable.

[F]

All right, well, let's get to Maliba.

[A]

Neighbors maybe that was big show's fault.

[F]

Yeah, we'll blame Big show because he's drinking free today. The good news is in this division is Malik Neighbors has returned to practice on Thursday. Malik Neighbors feels like he's always got something small, a nagging injury, but he was back at practice. And we got to hear from Malik Neighbors on what he's learned in his brief NFL career. The Giants just constantly switching quarterbacks.

[I]

So everyone's seen last year three, four different quarterbacks that was the same thing. I mean, it's hard, but you know, we're going to support him, we're going to do our best to help, make sure he's prepared, help so he's ready and, you know, we're going to help him lead, do what everybody else was doing when I was a rookie, the same way, helping me. So we're going to, you know, uplift his spirits and help him also, you know, during the game if something goes bad and just uplift him and continue to roll.

[C]

What did you learn from those quarterback changes last year about sort of the best way to approach this situation?

[I]

They gonna find a way to get one the ball.

[F]

Malik Neighbors seemed pretty chipper right there. Yeah. Emin Jackson dart. I know Russ was just trying to throw him moon balls, but there's just more in the route tree that dart can do for Malik.

[A]

Jayne Daniels, Noah Brown, Terry McLaurin all officially ruled out for Sunday, by the way. Speaking and sweating over there, dude.

[F]

Yeah. I mean, need this one fired a coach this week.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[F]

Bringing the OC down from the booth to the sideline. This is their Super Bowl. Marcus Mariota is on the other side and they want to get after him.

[A]

And I mean, and Marcus Mario's throwing to Luke McCaffrey and Chris Moore.

[E]

I think the Falcons could go wrong. One of the half point favorites here, to be honest with the wide receiver situation. I don't think the Falcons are that good. Yeah, Michael Penix has not played well, but they may not need to throw the ball.

[A]

No.

[E]

They run it down their throats 1000%.

[A]

1000%. Back to Malik neighbors. I am at wide receiver 5. I think I'm a big Jackson Dart guy in the sense that I think he is going to elevate this offense. I think and this may be a controversial take. You tell me member of the New York media angry member of the New York media that never gives anyone a chance.

[F]

Right.

[A]

I think going off, I think Brian Dable's a good coach. I think Brian Dable's a good coach. But specifically I think Brian Dabel's actually a good play caller. Like, I think he's got a good offensive mind. I don't think he's been given the right. You know, he's done the best he can with what little he has to work with. They've never had an offensive line. No, they've. Malik Neighbors is like the one actually good weapon that he's had there. You know, that's a true difference. Like Wanda Robinson has moments. Okay, fine. And maybe Darius Slayton can get deep for a couple. But like, no, like, like I. I think he has done a pretty good job with what little he's been given by the front office and management didn't.

[E]

Like Isaiah Hodgins and Darius slayton back in 2022.

[A]

Isaiah Hodgins like a street free agent? Yeah. I mean that's what. That's the point.

[F]

The Darren Waller experiment.

[A]

I mean, dude, right? You know, like he gets away with a lot. He didn't sign Kenny Golladay, you know, I mean like that deal, you know, that it took him all to get out from under that deal.

[F]

Like I. I just think he's an offensive staff member, not a head coach. And I fear he might be a Josh Allen Merchant.

[E]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

[F]

That's my fear.

[E]

Josh Allen's the hardest outlier in the history of quarterback development.

[F]

Right. Which makes you wonder how Ken Dorsey.

[G]

Did not do well.

[F]

But that's a whole other equation that we don't even.

[A]

But that's a pro Brian Day ball argument. Of course he know that. That Allen struggled. Somebody did that. Somebody, yeah. Did struggle with him.

[F]

One quick note here. John lynch did said this week that Brandon Aiyuk is not close to returning. So if you're roster stashing iuk, you might need different plans. We'll see. But let's get into Denny time. Dr. Denny Carter is here to solve your flexual frustrations.

[A]

I was gonna say is Jackson Dart's gonna elevate.

[G]

I want to issue an apology to you and the listening audience for shaming you about Wandell Robinson. Listen, since that time, since week one, I've gone back to school. I've earned another degree. And I've learned. I've learned that I. I was wrong. He goes eight for 10. Eight. I'm sorry. Eight catches on 10 targets for 142 yards and a touchdown. He now ranks seventh guys in both wide out receiving yards and wideout receptions. I don't really understand what's going on, but no one, no one should have shame about playing Wandell Robinson in Week three against Kansas City.

[F]

I don't understand what's going on. It's a great, great quote for your reel. Flexual frustrations. We welcome on Dr. Carter. Denny back in the lab again. You ready to roll?

[A]

Yeah.

[G]

You know, I can't get Wandell right. You know, it's shame one week and no shame the next. I can't get it right. And I apologize to everybody, including you guys.

[A]

Never apologize for your kinky interests. The fact that you're into wandelling, which is a verb I hadn't heard before. I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it. It is what it is. We're back again. You're going to help everyone out with their flexual frustrations, Dr. Carter. Appreciate it. We'll start off with this. I got an email to pass along to you. Okay, here's how it goes. Dear Dr. Carter, I've been having real trouble scoring lately. So my buddy Pete and his wife invited me out to meet a girlfriend of Pete's wife. The four of us were having a good time and the women left to go to the bathroom. So Pete turned to me and said, you should tuck her. That'll help with her scoring problem. And I said, what? And he said, you know, so Trey Tucker, you should start Trey Tucker. So Dr. Carter, is Pete Wright. Should I Tucker? Will starting Trey Tucker on my team help with my flexual frustration?

[G]

Well, look, I mean, the listeners should know, the viewers should know that not everybody is into tucking and that, you know, that's fine. But Trey Tucker is a good play. And it's not as simple as saying, you know, three touchdowns last week can't happen this week. Of course it's not going to happen. But this guy's out there running all the routes in this, you know, pretty pass heavy Vegas offense. And I'm going to ask the Brock Bowers drafters to cover their ears and eyes for a minute and tell you that Trey Tucker is second on this team in first read targets at 25%. That's something I had not predicted. And he's also, he's eating up air yards. And we love our air yards, as we know. We can't eat the air yards, but they do sometimes lead to real yards. He's top 20among all wide receivers in air yards. So, yeah, I think that, you know, to answer your friend's email, I think that that's the way to go.

[E]

Okay, Danny, I want to talk about the flexural phenomenon of settling. Where often you go into the night with one idea of how it's going to go. You want to, you know, potentially meet a Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson. Sometimes you have to settle for. Not those guys. You settle for less. Right now, perhaps the embodiment of settling is the greatest. Sterling Shepherd. Should we settle for Sterling Shepherd?

[G]

You wanted Mike Evans to be there, you know, at the end of the night, and he's not. He's not. He, you know, he has the hamstring. He's gone from the bar. You know who's there? It's Sterling shepherd. And I think that that's okay. You shouldn't feel any kind of way about playing Sterling shepherd this week because he's the last one there. Look, he's going to be out there running all the routes in this Tampa offense. I don't think that they're going to be able to run it very much against the Eagles. So that'll, you know, generate a lot of drop backs for Baker Mayfield. He led. I have a fun stat here. Sterling shepherd led the Bucs and yards per route run last week. He can't top that. Okay, I'm digging deep, guys. I'm digging deep. But he had four catches for 80 yards. I think he's a viable flex in deeper formats.

[F]

Denny, the Commanders.

[A]

Thank you.

[F]

Serious problems, by the way.

[A]

Just to be clear. I just want to say one quick thing.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Totally understand the phenomenon of settling. That is how I got my wife.

[E]

Okay, cool.

[A]

Cause she had her eyes set high.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

But then, you know, eventually she's just like, whatever you'll do, you know, she's got exhausted. She's got exhausted. Yeah, of course. Yeah. No, I am the Sterling shepherd of my wife's love life.

[E]

Sterling Berry.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[F]

Well, Denny, the Commanders, they usually don't have to settle. They usually have Jaden Daniels, they usually have Terry McLaurin here, but. But they're kind of in one night stand desperation territory right now with Luke McCaffrey. Is there any way that this was going to work?

[G]

That's right. Look, Luke McCaffrey, if you have a grand tradition, maybe some would call it an addiction to playing McCaffreys in fantasy football. I think you should get that checked out. I think you should talk to somebody about that. But you can continue that this week. If you played Ed McCaffrey back in the 90s in fantasy, if you play Christian McCaffrey through all these years in the 2000s, if you played the little known Billy McCaffrey in the CFL and CFL fantasy leagues, you're now on Luke McCaffrey because he's going to be out there as maybe a full time receiver. With Terry McLaurin out with a quad injury last week, McCaffrey caught three balls for 56 yards. He was targeted on 30% of his routes, which is pretty strong, and the Falcons are something of a pass funnel, so we might actually see some drop backs from Marcus Mariota, which would be nice.

[F]

He is with us every Single Friday. That is Dr. Denny Carter here to prescribe whatever you need to fix your flexual frustrations. And if you have more questions, Denny's doing a live Q and a at 1pm via the Roto World Football Show. So right after this show you can send more of your flexural frustrations to Denny. We're going to take our first break. When we're back, you guys are asking the big questions. We have the answers for what's on tap right after this.

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Look. Yes. Thank you. Oh Ved FF Happy Hour Regular vet. He. He might make the list. Later this week we are releasing the first set of fantasy people happy hour power.

[E]

The committee has to mate first.

[A]

Yeah, obviously. The committee meets on Tuesday and then we'll release the power race on Wednesday.

[F]

The fantasy football happy hour regular power rankings. Yes, this has come true.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. So Clark Brady of course he's the one that watched all 12 hours of our marathon.

[E]

Very hard to day throw maybe ever.

[A]

Well that's why he has to debut at number one. Although we haven't seen him in the chat as much. So I think there is an opening here for maybe a Jonathan Medishi 7 a stuntman Chuck 85 Johnny Dangerly at 4kgima 89 I guess J Stabs of course always J stabs at 6 that happy hour bed Happy hour regular comes in at seven. Julio think you are. I thought he would make the list.

[F]

No, Tej is in.

[A]

Yeah. No Ted. No, no Ace degenerate that I thought was interesting. Anyway Mr. T and of Course Raise the flags. Currently at number 10. This is just for week four. Of course, regulars, you have a chance to make your way up or down the power rankings. We will see. This is all done scientifically. We had an entire spreadsheet. There were spreadsheets, files, analytics. And our power rankings committee met for six hours into the night arguing. Nine of us stuck in a conference room going back and forth. Just so you know, Julio, think you are. I argued for you to be just a little bit higher. I lost that battle. J Stabs Dang. I'm six. I'll take it. But I'm running for top five for sure. I get that. Jstabs. I understand. I had you at eight, to be honest with you. Just so you know, we all fill.

[F]

Out our polls, combine them together.

[A]

Just want to be honest there.

[F]

Alright. What's on tap is brought to you by Bud Light, the official beer sponsor of the NFL. Sundays are easy to enjoy when they are full of football and the fridge is filled with beer. And we're gonna make it even easier for you by taking some of the best questions. This from raise the flags.

[A]

Number 10.

[F]

Number 10 on the regular power rank. You see what happens. Bench 1. Flowers. Jamar Mark Chase, Tedoroa McMillan. ETN or Judkins. Bench 1.

[A]

Yeah, I think you're benching one of the running backs here. I mean, I have them right next to each other. I have Judkins at 24. I have ETN at 25. So just by my peer ranks, I think it's ETN. I'll say that ETN's target share has gone down every game so far this season. Just 5% in week three. We've talked about this. This Jags offense just seems broken, to be perfectly honest. They're on the road at San Francisco 49ers. Pretty good defense this year. I know they're dealing with some injuries, but still, I mean, I do think this might be a tough spot to get the run game going. Meanwhile, Judkins, I just, I think honestly, he's the better player. I get it. It's the Browns. They're against Detroit. That's a tough matchup. But he was productive against the packers last week. He just looks good. He just looks good. I think. I just think he's the better player for me. Generally speaking, when it's a coin flip like this, I just try to go with talent. And I think at this point right now, I feel better about Judkins than I do. Etienne just from the eye test.

[E]

Yep. Agreed.

[F]

Meridian James, 5 With our next question, Flex play Nick Chubb, Trey Tucker, Rashid Shahid or club said Cedric Tillman. I can only pick one.

[A]

Yeah, I get the question and it's. I don't love the answer here but I honestly think, I do think it is still Nick Chubb.

[E]

Chubbler.

[A]

Yeah, the Chubbler again. It's a semi Chubb. It's not a full Chub as we've talked about here but. But I do think he's still going to get the majority of running back work for the Texans. You know it's not a matchup that scares you against Tennessee. They're actually a touchdown favorite at home to the Titans. Titans so far this year have been a bottom three run defense and so Nick Chubb who's of all these guys has the best chance of falling into the end zone. He's got the best chance at a score. Obviously not a bunch of great options for Murty and James. 5 But. But Nick Chubb would be my answer.

[E]

Yeah, Nick Chubb about is rushing props around 50 and a half on DraftKings. He's plus 155 to get into the end zone. So you'd expect like 60 total yards and 40% chance at a touchdown. So yeah, it is what it is.

[F]

Our last one from Croy from Dow 214. Who's picking these usernames?

[G]

I mean come on A.J.

[F]

Make it a little easier. I mean it's Friday.

[A]

A.J.

[F]

Brown, Ricky Pierre Piersol or Alvin Kamara at the Flex this week. Good options to have Matthew. It's supposed to be a four team league.

[A]

It is. I mean look we've talked about Camara, the fact that he's just not being used in the passing game here. We don't know the status of Juwan Jennings. He's questionable but like obviously that would affect my, my feelings on Ricky Pierce Hall. But as we sit here today I just, I still have to go with A.J. brown. I missed a top 10 play this week. Last two weeks a 35% target share for A.J. brown. Obviously the big game last week in the comeback against the Rams. I know it has been quite prior to that and I suspect that the Eagles will go back to their running ways if they can. But Buccaneer the Tampa is going to put a point on them so I don't think they're going to be able to just do just go run heavy. So AJ Brown who's just too good to be to be on somebody's bench. Like I just can't imagine saying like let me start Ricky pierce all over A.J. brown.

[E]

Yeah, the Bucks have perennially been a bit of a pass funnel as well, and even though the Eagles are favored in that game, expect that they will still need throwing AJ Brown. He looks perfectly like AJ Brown last week against la.

[F]

That will do it for what's on tap. Presented by Bud Light. Easy to drink, easy to enjoy, of course. Guys, we got a good one. On Sunday night, Micah Parsons heads back to Dallas to face the team that traded him away as the packers collide with the Cowboys in A rivalry renewed Sunday, 7 Eastern on NBC. And Peacock. And be sure to catch Matthew J and the crew live from Dallas Sunday as well for Fantasy Football pregame 11am on Peacock and the NFL and NBC.

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It's gonna be good. We're gonna take our last break. When we're back, Jay and I have our best guest picks of the weekend from Matthew. Coming up, it's pickup lines after the break.

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[E]

My guy? He's going to make this one simple.

[A]

I think Jay final finally got off the schneid last. He did. Yeah.

[E]

Jonathan Taylor has receiving yards got home and we're going to get home.

[A]

By the way, my, my, my. Seahawks -1 1 1/2 cash last night. All right, keep going.

[E]

Okay, I'll make this.

[F]

We needed that one.

[E]

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[F]

I like it. Jay, you're not going to like mine, okay? Because you're, you're big on Jackson Dart belief this week. I'm taking the Chargers -6 and I know it looks like a big line. Jesse Minter might be the best defensive coordinator in line to be a head coach next year. I think this is a tough draw for Jackson Dart. I think he's going to be fine. But the Chargers are rolling right now and they should be a touchdown better than the Giants. They should be two field goals better than the Giants. I really like this line this week. I think it's a tough spot for a rookie.

[A]

I think it is a tough spot for a rookie. Games at home, though. Games in New York, I think they lose. I think Dart plays well. I'll go home with Jay. It's Josh Jacobs on Sunday night, as you said. I like that bet a lot.

[F]

I really do.

[A]

It's closing time. You don't have to go home but you can't stay here. We'll see you Sunday morning at 11am for the pregame. I'm Matthew. For Connor J. Peace out. Thanks, Denny. He's Kenny Maine, the funny guy from espn.

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And he's Brian Baumgartner. But to me, he'll always be Kevin from the office.

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