Week 10 Waiver Wire: J.J. McCarthy, Coleston Loveland + Jakobi Meyers, Rashid Shaheed traded

Summary

Fantasy Football Happy Hour with Matthew Berry — Week 10 Waiver Wire & Trade Deadline Special

Date: November 4, 2025
Host: Matthew Berry (with Connor Rodgers & Jay)
Episode Theme:
A comprehensive look at the Week 10 fantasy football waiver wire, impact of major midseason NFL trades (Jacobi Meyers, Rashid Shaheed, Sauce Gardner), key injuries, and strategic pickups at every position. The hosts break down recent Monday Night Football developments, evaluate trade deadline news as it happens, and offer their signature mix of sharp analysis and playful banter.

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Main Themes & Episode Purpose

• Waiver Wire Priorities: In-depth coverage of the best fantasy pickups at QB, RB, WR, TE, and D/ST for Week 10, given numerous key players on bye (Mahomes, Dak, Chase, Lamb, etc).
• Trade Deadline Fallout: How recent trades (e.g., Jacobi Meyers to Jacksonville, Rashid Shaheed to Seattle, Sauce Gardner to the Colts) impact fantasy value and team situations.
• Rest-of-Season Outlooks: Evaluations of talented rookies (J.J. McCarthy, Colston Loveland, Torrey Horton), breakout players, and injury replacements.
• Actionable Advice: Start/sit debates, waiver priorities, deep league stashes, and defense streamers.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Impactful NFL Trades and Fantasy Implications

Jacobi Meyers traded to Jacksonville Jaguars

• Initial Reaction: Decisive move for Jacksonville wide receivers, especially given uncertainty with Travis Hunter's injury.
• "The Jags wide receiver room just got a little more crowded with the trade of Jacobi Meyers." — Matthew Berry [26:26]
• Fantasy Outlook: Parker Washington's role is secure in the slot, but Meyers should command outside targets once acclimated. Upgrades overall opportunity compared to Vegas.

Rashid Shaheed moves to Seattle Seahawks

• Analysis:
  • Shaheed will likely split field-stretching duties with Torrey Horton and contribute on special teams.
  • Potential for slightly lower target share, but more effective touches thanks to Seattle's pass game.
• "If you have Shaheed, you probably prefer the move to Sam Darnold and the Seahawks…even if the target share is less, it’s more effective." — Matthew Berry [54:06]
• Concerns about Cooper Kupp’s injury status surface as a possible driver of this trade.

Sauce Gardner traded to the Colts

• Major Defensive Shift:
  • Colts instantly boast a top-tier CB tandem with Sauce and Charvarius Ward.
  • "The Colts go from diabolical corner situation…to the best corner room in the league." — Jay [51:10]
• Jets Perspective:
  • Indicates a shift towards rebuilding; expect more moves and shifting priorities.
  • "This is a signal the Jets are building the infrastructure for a rookie quarterback." — Connor Rodgers [50:31]
• Opens up fantasy opportunity for opposing wideouts (e.g., Cedric Tillman).

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2. Week 10 Waiver Wire Analysis

Quarterbacks

• Sam Darnold (SEA) — 50% available

  • Top priority with byes (Mahomes, Dak, Flacco, Cam Ward).
  • "Statistically, Sam Darnold's been the best quarterback in football this year on a per play basis. …He's just been an absolute monster." — Jay [05:28]
  • Stresses Darnold's evolution beyond previous missteps: "This is a wildly different quarterback than what we saw with the Jets and I would argue he's better now than he was with Minnesota last year." — Matthew Berry [04:35]
  • Darnold’s "love list" repeat, favorable upcoming schedule (Arizona, Rams, Tennessee, then Minnesota).

• J.J. McCarthy (BAL) — 71% available

  • Rushing upside (TDs in 2/3 starts), top 3 in deep ball rate/average depth of target (small sample).
  • Cautions: Only ~22 passing attempts/game, game script skews run-heavy.
  • "He does feel like the casted, movie quarterback in 'Remember the Titans' or 'Friday Night Lights'." — Matthew Berry [10:32]
  • McCarthy ranked lower among streaming QBs but has upside in likely shootout vs Ravens.

• Deep League/Streamers:

  • Marcus Mariota — Negative game script, 20+ ppg allowed by Lions QB, rushing floor [14:19].
  • PJ Walker, Jacoby Brissett (if starting): Consider for desperation upside.

Running Backs

• Devin Singletary (NYG) — 95% available

  • Lead back in snaps/touches following Cam Scataboo’s injury.
  • "It’s the best of a bad lot…You like this matchup with Chicago; they've given up at least 20 fantasy points to backfields five times this year." — Matthew Berry [18:13]
  • Low upside, desperation flex.

• Isaiah Davis (NYJ) — 86% available

  • Usage increasing (40%+ snaps in 3 of last 4); Jets are 3rd in RB target share.
  • Would become the #1 priority if Breece Hall is dealt.
  • "Davis is a nice pass catcher…He had 12 touches in his last game, played 71% of the snaps." — Matthew Berry [22:32]

• Other RBs for Deep Leagues:

  • Bashal Tootin (Texans), Blake Corum (Rams, next man up), Tank Bigsby (in case of Barkley injury), Sean Tucker (Bucs, increased workload), Terrell Jennings (Patriots, red zone carries).

• Trade Watch: Breece Hall, if moved, totally reshapes the NYJ backfield.

Wide Receivers

• Parker Washington (JAX) — Now with Meyers, but injury to Travis Hunter may secure role

  • 27% target share last week, slot usage, high utilization.
  • "In his career, when he sees at least 15% target share, he's averaging over 13 fantasy points per game." — Matthew Berry [27:35]

• Torrey Horton (LAR) — 95% available

  • Major TD upside, downfield role with Cooper Kupp out.
  • "Torrey Horton has earned a larger role in this offense." — Matthew Berry [33:12]
  • Meyers and Shaheed trades diminish OR enhance his value rest-of-season depending on usage.

• Alec Pierce (IND) — 74% available

  • Surging as field stretcher; 13 targets/115 yards vs Steelers.
  • "He's no longer just a deep ball threat... developed more sophistication to his route tree." — Jay [34:49]

• Troy Franklin (DEN), Christian Watson (GB), Darius Slayton (NYG), Tez Johnson (ORE), Jack Bech (LV): Noted as deep league stashes or flex desperation.

Tight Ends

• Colston Loveland (CHI) — 76% available

  • Four straight weeks with RZ or end zone target, potential for increased role if Cole Kmet is out.
  • "Four straight weeks with a red zone target…Last two weeks, 76% route participation." — Matthew Berry [37:01]

• Harold Fannin Jr. (CLE) — 57% available

  • Top-10 TE since Week 5; Jets one of the friendliest defenses to TEs.
  • If Njoku is traded, Fannin rises to must-add.

• Other TE Streamers:

  • Dalton Schultz (solid usage), Cade Otton (20% target share since Week 5), Juwan Johnson (3 straight 10+ point games), Theo Johnson, Luke Musgrave (increased routes with Kraft injury).

DEFENSE

• Week 10 Streamers:
  • Browns vs Jets (67% available): "The Browns might be my number one waiver claim." — Matthew Berry [42:32]
  • Bills vs Dolphins (57%)
  • Panthers vs Saints (97%)
  • Jets @ Browns
  • Bucs vs Patriots

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Timestamps for Highlights & Notable Quotes

• Sam Darnold Waiver Priority: [03:20–07:59]
• J.J. McCarthy Streaming Appeal: [07:59–13:15]
• Devin Singletary/NYG RB Outlook: [17:04–20:38]
• Isaiah Davis/Jets RBs and Breece Hall Trade Impact: [22:08–23:40]
• Deep League RB List: [24:49–25:52]
• Parker Washington and WRs Waiver Run: [26:26–30:18]
• Torrey Horton, Alec Pierce, and deeper WRs: [30:18–36:06]
• Tight End Targets: [36:46–42:14]
• Defense Streaming: [42:14–42:46]
• Marvin Harrison Jr. MNF Recap/Trade Talk: [45:21–49:21]
• Jets trade Sauce Gardner, live reaction: [50:01–52:10]
• Rashid Shaheed to Seahawks — fantasy fallout: [52:27–54:10]

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• “Statistically, Sam Darnold’s been the best quarterback in football this year on a per play basis. …Number one in EPA per play, number one in PFF grade, second in QBR. Just been an absolute monster.”
  — Jay [05:28]

• "This is a wildly different quarterback than what we saw with the Jets."
  — Matthew Berry [04:35]

• "If you’re Jonathan Gannon, why would you go back to Kyler Murray?"
  — Matthew Berry [48:39] (on potential for Jacoby Brissett continuing as ARI starter)

• “All he does is catch touchdowns.”
  — Connor Rodgers [31:18], on Torrey Horton

• “[Torrey] Horton has earned a larger role in this offense."
  — Matthew Berry [33:12]

• "Sauce Gardner is one of the premier corners in the league and I think this signals that the Jets are like—they're not going to. I don't think they're going to trade Garrett Wilson or anyone like that, but they are trying to build the infrastructure for a rookie quarterback."
  — Connor Rodgers [50:31]

• “The Colts go from this diabolical corner situation to… the best corner room in the league.”
  — Jay [51:10]

• “...I actually think this hurts Shaheed’s fantasy value...less targets because now he's competing with JSN.”
  — Matthew Berry [53:09]

• "If, if N’Joku does get dealt, I would move Fannin above Loveland. I’d feel better about his role moving forward."
  — Matthew Berry [38:49]

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Additional Notes and Running Gags

• League Banter: Numerous nods to their deeply competitive main league ("Nothing’s available in our league—it’s always Alan Lazard." [31:28]).
• 'Bunny' Reference: Jay tries to introduce a cricket term for a player who always gets bested — “He’s your bunny.” [07:10]
• Dinner Bets: Ongoing food wager between Mariota and Daniel Jones as Week 10 QB starts [13:35].

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Useful Quick-Reference: Top Week 10 Adds

QB: 1. Sam Darnold, 2. Mariota, 3. J.J. McCarthy
RB: 1. Devin Singletary, 2. Isaiah Davis (if Breece dealt), 3. Bashal Tootin
WR: 1. Parker Washington, 2. Torrey Horton, 3. Alec Pierce
TE: 1. Colston Loveland, 2. Harold Fannin Jr., 3. Dalton Schultz
D/ST: 1. Browns, 2. Bills, 3. Panthers

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Conclusion

This episode delivers the fantasy football essentials for a turbulent waiver week: urgent pickup recommendations, nuanced breakouts, in-the-moment trade analysis (with Sauce Gardner and Rashid Shaheed’s surprise deals), and practical advice for navigating critical byes and injuries. The signature interplay between Matthew, Connor, and Jay ensures deep insights are blended with the rambling (but charming) banter loyal listeners expect.

Whether you’re in a 10-team standard league or scraping the bottom of the barrel in a 16-team deep dynasty, this episode tells you who to prioritize, who to stash, and who to drop (RIP, Tyron Tracy). It’s trade deadline season, and the show makes sure you’re ready for every curveball.

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(If you need segment-specific recommendations, lists, or further detail on any one player/trade, let me know!)

Transcript

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[Matthew Berry]

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[Connor Rodgers]

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[Matthew Berry]

Yeah. Down the stretch, we're going to play.

[Jay]

Spoiler, the New York Jets.

[Matthew Berry]

I'm don't call it a comeback. But we're. I won't call it a comeback. We've now got a two game win streak.

[Jay]

Okay.

[Matthew Berry]

Poor, stupid, stupid Dev.

[Connor Rodgers]

Bad showing from stupid Dev, who I have a lot of faith in most weeks.

[Matthew Berry]

Stupid Dev has a great team. Just not this week. It's not against me. You don't want to run into the juggernaut. We got red hot. We're getting hot at the right time.

[Jay]

Don't you have Jaden Davis?

[Matthew Berry]

Yes, that is. There is that.

[Connor Rodgers]

But he has Matthew Stabbing, the MVP of the league.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And Drake May.

[Matthew Berry]

And Drake May.

[Connor Rodgers]

How is this team so bad?

[Matthew Berry]

Fantasy Football Happy hour with Matthew Berry.

[Connor Rodgers]

Welcome to the Fantasy football happy hour. Happy trade deadline day across the NFL. We already got one in the bag. Jacoby Myers is going to Jacksonville.

[Jay]

All of us do.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, of course.

[Connor Rodgers]

Very excited. We'll see if the Commanders and Jets offload whatever they have.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, exactly. I will pay people to take Marshawn Lattimore. If there's any NFL team watching. What can I give you to take Marshawn Lattimore off the Commanders? But in the meantime, here's a trade that did happen. Go ahead, Connor.

[Connor Rodgers]

A surprise. I love when a tweet starts with that. The Raiders are in fact dealing. Well, I'm not really surprised. In fact dealing wide receiver Jacoby Myers. All he's been asking for is to go anywhere else to the Jaguars. Per me, that's Ian Rapaport. It's a fourth and a sixth for Myers. A few months after his initial request to be traded, Myers is dealt. So we're going to have a ton more on this later because we're going to be talking about another Jacksonville wide receiver. Because it's waiver wire day, we're here to help you out. We're recapping Monday Night football Marvin Harrison Jr. With the big night after some big words from Senior and we'll look at the early lines as we always do on Tuesday for our week 10 best bets. But let's waste no time. Let's get into the quarterbacks because there's a good chance you need some help this week because the bye weeks, it's not fun. Patrick Mahomes, Dak Prescott, Joe Flacco and Cam Ward all have buys right now. If you are on super flex there's a good chance you're hurting even if you're in a redraft standard quarter one quarterback league missing. Mahomes and Dak is tough. So with that Matthew, we start with Sam Darnold who we talk about almost every week, 50% available. Was this finally the week that is going to get him under that threshold?

[Matthew Berry]

I mean in fairness to the people that have ignored Sam Darnold, he's not going to play the commander secondary every single week it gets a little bit tougher. He's got Arizona at home, a suddenly red hot Cardinals defense, then he's at the Rams and at Tennessee. So the schedule is a homecoming with Minnesota in four weeks so the schedule doesn't get a lot easier. Having said that, he's played phenomenal. He was on the love list previously last week. I feel like we've talked about him every single week about how good he has been in this offense, in this Clint Kubiak offense. 20 or more fantasy points in three of the past four games since week two. He's the 11th best quarterback in fantasy football. J he's available in 50% of leagues he shouldn't be.

[Jay]

Yeah, he's an interesting one because I do think some of it is that he's torched some bad defences like the Bucks as well. He had that huge game there. They don't have a great pass defense. His game against the Texans, which is the most elite defence he's faced, was shaky. He's 1731, one touchdown, one interception. But the thing is is that he just looks so much better and the THR and I get that it's an easy defense of the commanders, but these throws weren't like easy defense throws. Right. Like he is lasering it in there. And I think that people think that the Seahawks are this running team, but they're not really a running. They don't run the ball that actively. Yeah, yeah. As Greg Olson tweeted about, like they're a passing team out of heavy personnel. Basically heavy formations, like that's what they do.

[Matthew Berry]

They run to set up the pass. Like when they do run it's, it's basically it's set the pass. He leads all quarterbacks and average up the target in yards per pass attempt. Now some of that is because he's got so many guys that are so good and so after the catch, you know, when you're throwing, you know, an eight yard slant to Jackson, Smith and Jigba and then he runs 40 yards like it counts as a 48 yard pass for Sam Donald. All that said though, you know Connor, this is a wildly different quarterback than what we saw with the jets and I actually, I would argue he's better now than he was with Minnesota last year.

[Jay]

I think he's different to the guy from Minnesota.

[Connor Rodgers]

I agree. Yeah, I think he's significantly better. Johnny Dangerly weighs in time to drop JD5 for Darnold. LOL. Yeah, I mean, yeah, absolutely. But the context we're talking about him and like he's, he's a matchup based quarterback in fantasy but he's a streaming quarterback. So this is. He has high upside in those matchups.

[Jay]

Statistically, Sam Donald's been the best quarterback in football this year on a per play basis. Like he's number one in APA per play. He's number one in PFF grade and he's second in qbr. He's second in completion stage over expectation. Like he's just been an absolute monster. The question is, is that how much will they throw the ball? Because they do have a low pass rate over expectation. But I think Donald has just been so good and the matchup against Arizona, who were great defensively last night against the previously high flying Cowboys offense. But I don't know, I feel pretty good about starting Donald each week he's starting to really accumulate touchdown passes. Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

And honestly, by the way, I mean we weren't really getting to the joke section. John Dangerously, probably joking a little bit, but I cannot imagine a scenario where Jaden Daniels plays this season. I haven't seen any news about like quote unquote the prognosis of when he returns. But I can't imagine the Commanders are anywhere close to contending if and when Daniels would be cleared to play again this year. They're going to shut him down. So whether, whether it's a season ending injury or it's just like, well, it's a two month thing and you know he'll come back. If they're in playoff contention, they're not going to be in playoff contention. Like it's a lost season for Washington. So we love you five. But you know, he will be available tomorrow morning in our league. You know, he's my quarterback in our league and so he will be available. I will not be able to pick up Marcus Mariota because stupid Dev has him. Stupid Dev's been carrying Marcus Mariota for whatever reason for the last, you know, what's the Pirates. It's stupid Dev once again. You know, he tried to screw me on the tight ends in year one.

[Connor Rodgers]

He's a little bit of a thorn in your side.

[Matthew Berry]

He's a little bit. But every week I seem. Every year I get the better of it.

[Connor Rodgers]

You do. There's no denying it.

[Matthew Berry]

He's tries to come at the king and then even me, even down, even, you know, even in my weakened state, I was without a crown.

[Jay]

He's your bunny. I don't think you guys say that in America, in Australia or in cricket. If you like get the same guy out over and over again, he's your bunny. Like Daryl Cullinan was Shane Warne's bunny. Anyway, so if like you own someone.

[Connor Rodgers]

I like, they can move on from that.

[Jay]

Yeah, it's like Josh Allen. Apparently not in the regular season, but he's Patrick Mahomes bunny in the postseason. That's just what we say. There's nothing bad about that.

[Matthew Berry]

No, no. I just.

[Jay]

That's allowed. No flags on that.

[Matthew Berry]

No, sure. No, there's just. There's a lot of jokes running through my head and I'm trying to decide which ones of them I can get away with. That's fine. But yes, stupid Dev is my Bunny.

[Jay]

Yes, he is your Bunny.

[Connor Rodgers]

I don't like this. I don't like this addition to the show. This is year four. We didn't need this.

[Matthew Berry]

This is heading into dangerous territory either way. Go out and pick Sam Darnold if you need a quarterback and he's still available in your league. If you're in one of the 50% of leagues that he is out there.

[Connor Rodgers]

Another player and you might be desperate this week. JJ McCarthy is 71% available he the Ravens. This is A game that in theory you would think there's going to be a lot of points. This is an interesting one because McCarthy had touchdown production last week despite only completing 14 passes.

[Matthew Berry]

Yep.

[Connor Rodgers]

It was a little bit of a rocky road, but in fantasy you take the touchdowns. I think more importantly, Matthew, you just hope for the running.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah. I mean again he's, he's had, he's played three games. He's had a rushing touchdown and two of them. And so more mobile than I think he probably got credit for coming out of college if he qualified again. He's only played the three games. Right. But he would rank top three in the NFL in terms of average depth of target and deep ball rate this season if he qualified. So, so there you go. Kneecaps are intact, says JJ McCarthy. Despite this, this weird angle. I guess this is on, on the gram from JJ McCarthy and he wasn't done there. No.

[Connor Rodgers]

We got to hear from a very emotional JJ McCarthy on the big win of the weekend.

[Matthew Berry]

Just.

[Jay]

It was awesome.

[Connor Rodgers]

Yeah, just.

[Matthew Berry]

When you're hurt, you know, being on IR last year and being out for five weeks, it absolutely kills me not being out there with those.

[Jay]

Guys because I love every single one.

[Matthew Berry]

Of them and you know, I know.

[Jay]

They got my back and I got.

[Matthew Berry]

Theirs the rest of the way.

[Connor Rodgers]

Here's the next gen stats passing chart for JJ McCarthy. Kind of all over the place, which is a good sign. Throwing the ball, you know, a lot of different areas of the field, but not throwing the ball a lot I think is the problem right now. Matthew, this is a team that wants to run the ball as much as they can, I think to protect him.

[Matthew Berry]

He's averaging 22 pass attempts per game this season.

[Connor Rodgers]

Very low.

[Matthew Berry]

22. Very, very low. Again, all small sample size. He's only played the three games, but the fact is, is that they've wanted to protect him a little bit. They've wanted to run the ball. They, by the way, they generally play good defense. I know they've had a couple of missteps there, but when their defense is healthy, they generally play good defense. They shut down Detroit's previously high flying offense. So I do think McCarthy in a game against the Ravens here with a 48 and a half over under, we expect some fireworks here. Ravens defense is a little bit healthier, but still, you know, not impenetrable. And we certainly expect Lamar to be able to put points up wherever he goes.

[Jay]

Yep, agreed. Very penetrable defense. How happy is J.J. mcCarthy going to be if he wins the Super Bowl?

[Connor Rodgers]

Jeez he's very words after that one.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Week nine.

[Connor Rodgers]

Kind of like a movie quarterback.

[Jay]

Yeah, he is. He is very cinematic.

[Connor Rodgers]

Yes.

[Jay]

There you go. He does.

[Matthew Berry]

He does feel like the casted, you know. Right.

[Jay]

Is it. Remember the Titans character?

[Connor Rodgers]

There you go.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Connor Rodgers]

More line than that.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah. Friday Night Lights.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

I could see him and him in the back. Him and the other quarterback are vying for the girl. You know, there, there's like.

[Connor Rodgers]

There's a triangle storyline.

[Jay]

He's the guy who comes in to displace Matt Saracen after Matt Saracen has a bad couple of weeks. Yeah. With J.J. look, I don't think what he's done so far has been particularly good. Question from Ved. Need QB help with Dak on by Danny Dimes or Caleb or JJ McCarthy or Mariota. A lot of options week buffet.

[Matthew Berry]

That is a. That is a lot of options. Okay, so let's, let's break it down. Daniel Dimes is at home against the Colts.

[Jay]

Caleb Williams plays for the Colts.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, I mean, I'm sorry. Against the Falcons.

[Jay]

He's in Berlin. That's where that game is against the Falcons. The international game. The early one on Sunday.

[Matthew Berry]

Right. So he's against the Falcons. Sorry, they're the home team. But you're right, that's. That game is overseas. McCarthy is playing the Ravens as we just talked about here. Let's see. Caleb Williams is playing. Who's Chicago playing?

[Connor Rodgers]

The Giants.

[Matthew Berry]

The Giants might be him. And then of course Washington at home to Detroit. It's. To me it's Mariota or Caleb Williams, to be honest with you.

[Jay]

Wow.

[Connor Rodgers]

I'm starting Daniel Jones.

[Jay]

Wow. D.J. you're out on him.

[Connor Rodgers]

Here's my anti. Caleb, here's the thing.

[Matthew Berry]

I just. I think the. I think the. Again, I think the Falcons have a very good secondary. I think they. I. I think they. And I think he can run on them. So I think this is a big Jonathan Taylor game. Those London, those overseas games, the international games always get weird for me.

[Jay]

I just say Shane Steichen, if you're watching the show, which you probably are, I get that they keep on doing these play action passes early on in the game because everyone expects Taylor to get the ball and then it's the Daniel Jones. So let's just give the ball to Jonathan Taylor 30 times this game. Let's see the Falcons defensive line stop Jonathan Taylor. I just want him to get 30 carries. No more Daniel Jones in the first quarter show. But I think that just because of the.

[Matthew Berry]

It might, it might be Mariota again. Like we'll see if McLaurin is back but that's it's a 49 and a half over on I'm dead. Like it's not like Detroit's defense scare you. Certainly their secondary isn't Mariotis put up points every time he started this week. This year. I would say for me too.

[Connor Rodgers]

Listen what I would have it Daniel Jones.

[Jay]

Caleb.

[Connor Rodgers]

Caleb Mariota McCarthy. Yeah, I'm calling my anti Caleb argument is the Giants run defense has been dreadful and Ben Johnson's just going to be like cool, we're going to do this all day. You could argue that for the Colts.

[Matthew Berry]

I'm going to say Mario to I haven't done my projections yet but off the top of my head I would say Mariota Jones. Caleb. No, I might swap Caleb and Danny Dimes. Yeah, I'm sorry.

[Connor Rodgers]

Maybe question of the year. Ved maybe question of the year.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah. We all agree JJ McCarthy is fourth.

[Jay]

We're one week removed from Daniel Jones stewarding the greatest offense of all time and just piling up touchdowns. And he gets also he gets the one yard touchdown against the Steelers as well. I think Daniel Jones is the. I think he's the guy. Anyway, let's move on.

[Matthew Berry]

All right.

[Connor Rodgers]

Will you.

[Matthew Berry]

Will you give me Caleb Williams? Will you give me the field? No. Will you give me the Daniel Jones versus the field in that question? No.

[Jay]

Why would I give you the field? You can choose one fighter against Daniel Jones fantasy points and we'll pay for dinner in Philadelphia.

[Matthew Berry]

Marcus Mariota. All right, I'll take Daniel Jones.

[Connor Rodgers]

We haven't had a good dinner bet in a long time.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, we're doing.

[Connor Rodgers]

Good luck with Marcus Mariota versus Daniel Jones.

[Matthew Berry]

Good luck with. After dinner it'll be all over you.

[Connor Rodgers]

All right. How about some deeper leak targets?

[Jay]

Terrifying.

[Connor Rodgers]

No more bunny references. Trevor Lawren, he's got the Texans defense, so be careful with that one. But once again, you know, you could be in a bit of a bind here. Justin Fields has the Browns defense, but you just hope that Fields runs a lot and Garrett Wilson is slowly working his way back into hopefully playing. We'll see. And then your. Your guy, Matthew, the guy you will ride or die with this week. Marcus Mariota.

[Matthew Berry]

Look, over the past four weeks, the Lions are allowing over 20 fantasy points per game to opposing quarterbacks. Mariota has been pretty good fantasy wise. He runs a little bit as well. That defense is so bad he's going to have to be in negative game script and throwing quite a bit. The hope Here is Terry McLaurin is back as well, so it won't be pretty and I don't think my commanders win, but they're eight and a half point underdogs here. I. I think they're going to be throwing quite a bit. I think there'll be some junk time here for Mario Oda. The only question mark on Fields, and I agree with you, he's likely starting, but for whatever reason, Aaron Glenn won't commit to him as a starter because God forbid Justin Fields ever get a coach that just is like, you're the guy.

[Connor Rodgers]

Yeah, it's. Here we go again.

[Jay]

Does Aaron Glenn think he works at the Pentagon?

[Matthew Berry]

What's up?

[Jay]

Secrecy just announced the quarterback.

[Matthew Berry]

You're one in seven.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

You're one in seven, Aaron Glenn. Yeah.

[Connor Rodgers]

And you just won.

[Matthew Berry]

I know.

[Connor Rodgers]

With Fields.

[Matthew Berry]

Exactly.

[Connor Rodgers]

And Fields played a nice little part in that game. He had his best game since week one.

[Matthew Berry]

Why not? This poor guy's been through the ringer all year. Why not give him like a little bit of, you know, little love?

[Connor Rodgers]

I mean, I don't agree with this, but I guess what he's thinking is you. He wants teams to prepare for the rushing element of Fields and the pocket passing element of Tyrod. I just, I'm just trying to get inside the mind of an Aaron Glenn.

[Jay]

I think teams, when they face the jets, they just prepare for winning.

[Connor Rodgers]

They just prepare to win the game.

[Jay]

As you should.

[Matthew Berry]

Exactly. Honestly, they should just prepare for who's going to be able to avoid Myles Garrett the best. That's what they should have. Which is Justin Fields, by the way. The Traveler, by the way, is on that list. Since week five, he's the ninth best quarterback in fantasy. It hasn't always been pretty, averaging over 21 fantasy points per game. You know, kind of. It's been propped up by the rushing touchdowns against Jacobi Myers. Again, we're going to talk about that in a little bit. Tough matchup against the Texans. But you're hoping for. You're hoping for a little bit more of the rushing here and you're hoping that the Traveler puts it together. You know that Brian Toms Jr. Is a little bit healthier. Hopefully you're hoping.

[Jay]

Huge Spider man meme game Trevor Lawrence v Geno Smith on the weekend. It's like these guys are the same quarterback. You're the younger version of me, Trevor.

[Matthew Berry]

I was literally going to do that, some version of that joke when we got into that trade because I do think it's like, hey, Juggle Marsh, we got great news. We got you away from Geno Smith. Where am I going? Trevor Lawrence. You know, I mean, a little. I think it's that, right? I mean, I just think, like younger version. Yeah, it's the same. The same guy.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

Better hair. Better hair. Younger.

[Connor Rodgers]

All right, let's go to the running backs here. And a couple of big names on.

[Matthew Berry]

You'd much rather live in Vegas than Jacksonville. All due respect to the lovely people.

[Jay]

In Jacksonville, I will not say ill of the fine city of Jacksonville.

[Matthew Berry]

I'm not saying anything bad about Jacksonville. I'm just saying it's not.

[Jay]

You just compared it to a place and you said it's worse.

[Matthew Berry]

I'm saying it's not. It's not Las Vegas. It isn't.

[Jay]

It is not.

[Matthew Berry]

It is not.

[Connor Rodgers]

All right, running backs. The running backs on a by Javante Williams is obviously the most notable. Chase Brown's been better.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Connor Rodgers]

Lately. And then Tony Pollard, Kareem Hunt, Taj Spears and Isaiah Pacheco as well. So we'll see if the Chiefs actually make a move today. Backfield, that'll be an interesting thing to.

[Matthew Berry]

Keep an eye on. But you've also got some. You've got some injured guys. We don't know if we're getting Ramondre back. We don't know if we're getting Bucky Irving back. We don't know if we're getting Trey Benson back. You know, so there's a chance that you need. You still need a running back here.

[Connor Rodgers]

And for that we move to Devin Singletary, the man they call motor, 95% available. And boy, did we talked a lot about Tyrone Tracy a week ago. But in this rushing offense, and I say that with quotes, it was Devin Singletary that got more than work.

[Matthew Berry]

Matthew, he did. Again, the.

[Connor Rodgers]

What did it amount to?

[Matthew Berry]

Right.

[Connor Rodgers]

Seven points.

[Matthew Berry]

I mean, it's the best of a bad lot here. Here's what you're hoping for with Devin Singletary is that he continues the usage. Right. He led the Giants in snap rate and touches in week number nine, 10 touches, 55% of the snapshot. He was more effective than Tyrone Tracy. Low bar to clear, to be honest with you, but Singletary more of a veteran presence. Maybe that's what day ball wanted. And you like this matchup with Chicago.

[Jay]

Yes. Right.

[Matthew Berry]

They give up five yards per carry to running backs. That's fifth most in the NFL. They've given up at least 20 fantasy points to opposing backfields in five different games this year. And so I guess the hope here is again, like this is like a desperation flex there's just not a lot out there on the waiver wire. I think the hope here is, is that like he plays 60% of the snaps, has a shot at a touchdown and gets you 70, 80 yards with a whatever with a 60% chance at a score.

[Jay]

Yeah, he's like a rich man. Tajie Spears, basically it's like all right, going Devin Singletary, can he get us 10 points? It's not a very inspiring number one option on the wave wire, but at least, I mean Jackson Dodd is running a functional offense.

[Matthew Berry]

Yes.

[Jay]

And the bad elements of the offense I think are going to be more negative plays as opposed to them not being able to move the ball down the field and because darts ability to extend players and his rushing threat does make him complimentary for running back efficiency. But yeah, Devin Singletary, hard to get too excited about it.

[Matthew Berry]

Connor, is there something you've noticed with Tyrone Tracy this year? Because I know you, you and I were both big fans of this guy coming out of college. We liked him a lot obviously in his rookie year and it just, he feels like a different guy.

[Connor Rodgers]

I just think his effectiveness is as a third down pass catcher. Right. And we talked about that when he was a rookie because moved from wide receiver to running back late in his college career and that's where he's comfortable, he's comfortable in space. And honestly the Giants up front like Cam Scatterboo hit a lot of their problems as they run offense because Cam Scatterboo could just run through anyone's face. But the Giants as a schemed offense from a rushing element, it's not a pretty watch all the time.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah. The offensive line has obviously struggled here. Malcolm J. Says, is Tyrone Tracy droppable with that backfield being a committee now?

[Connor Rodgers]

Impossible.

[Jay]

Yes.

[Connor Rodgers]

There's a good chance you have a better option.

[Matthew Berry]

Sadly it depends on who else you're starting. Depends on who else is in the waiver wire, the size of your league.

[Jay]

But like rather have Devin Singletary.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah. I mean I don't think it's crazy. I don't think it's a crazy question. Malcolm J. I don't think there's probably, unless you're in a super deep league, there's probably not a much of a trade market for him.

[Connor Rodgers]

So it's just right.

[Matthew Berry]

And if you're never going to start him then just like then he's just using a roster spot. Right. Because he has no trade value and you're not going to, you're not going to start him. So it's Just like, all right, you know, if somebody else grabs him, somebody else grabs him.

[Jay]

Like it's the other thing, too. It's like. It's not like he's an injury away. Devin Singletary gets hurt. He's gonna bring in the new Devin Singletary.

[Matthew Berry]

Probably.

[Connor Rodgers]

It does feel that way.

[Matthew Berry]

Doesn't. Yeah. It's weird.

[Connor Rodgers]

This has a fumble problem.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Connor Rodgers]

So maybe that's why they don't trust him the way we hoped they would at some point.

[Matthew Berry]

Maybe Just Dart doesn't like him either, for whatever reason. Maybe they feel better with Singletary in past production.

[Jay]

Matthew's starting rumors.

[Connor Rodgers]

Big accusations on Jackson Dart.

[Matthew Berry]

I'm just Tyron Trace. I am trying to think of a reason why with Triumph Trace, who came into the year as the starting running back and then lost his job because Scatter Boo was explosive. But now with Scatterboo done for the year, why Tracy wouldn't get the opportunity to be the lead back the way he was last year down the stretch, you know, when he was much better than Singletary.

[Connor Rodgers]

Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

And so a year Devin Singletary, a year older is now all of a sudden. It's a weird one. It's a weird one. And it's not like he was more effective than Tyrone Dracy. But it wasn't a. It wasn't a Chuba Hubbard, Rico Dowdle situation where you're just like, well, just. Sorry, but the backup's just so much better at this point. Like, we have to make the switch.

[Jay]

Yeah. It's like a Samaj Payron thing. Devin Singletary still is gnawing into someone else's value.

[Connor Rodgers]

Aloha Bricks said you're the gossipler.

[Matthew Berry]

Not bad. Yeah, not bad at all.

[Jay]

Trying to turn men against each other.

[Matthew Berry]

Yes, exactly. Gotham. That's what I do.

[Jay]

Unbelievable.

[Matthew Berry]

Connor doesn't like you.

[Connor Rodgers]

Everyone's saying it.

[Jay]

Evidently.

[Matthew Berry]

Or that's just what I'm hearing around the water cooler.

[Jay]

Exactly. He doesn't like my Bengals afc.

[Matthew Berry]

He does not. He does not. He doesn't like the fact that you. You're in a hoodie. Stole his. Look. He was in a hoodie yesterday. In a hoodie today. He's. He's been sort of the hoodie guy for a while.

[Jay]

Sure.

[Connor Rodgers]

I've been complaining to upper management about this.

[Jay]

No, I haven't heard back say so close again. So close. Against the Bears. We always had so close ticket to the Super Bowl.

[Connor Rodgers]

Our waiver wired running back continues with another New York running back. Isaiah Davis is 86% available. He's got the Browns A little bit of a tough rushing schedul here ahead because they got the Patriots on Thursday Night Football after that. But I think the key here is guys that his usage is going up. Obviously Matthew, this would flip on its head if Breece hall actually was moved today. But he's playing even with Breece hall on the jets right now.

[Matthew Berry]

He's played at least 40% of the snaps three of the last four games. As you're to your point, the jets are actually third in running back target share this year. They like to dump off to the running back. Davis is a nice pass catcher. He's had at least. He had 12 touches in his last game. He played 71% of the snaps a game. The jets won again. So we're doing this at noon on Tuesday. The Trade deadline is 4 o' clock later today. Breece hall has been rumored to be on the move. So Isaiah Davis, a favorite of the Badlands podcast.

[Connor Rodgers]

That's right.

[Matthew Berry]

Would suddenly become the number one priority on the waiver wire of all players. I think if Bruce hall after this show is done, if Breece hall gets traded. But the moment we have behind Devin Singletary because in theory Breece hall will be the number one back for the jets on Sunday. Tough matchup as you mentioned Cleveland and the Patriots in the next two. Then at Baltimore home to Atlanta, which is also a really good run defense and so. Well actually it's not really a good run defense. Sorry. It's a good pass defense in Atlanta. So the next three are a little bit tough. Then it gets a little bit easier. Going to make prediction.

[Jay]

Caller.

[Connor Rodgers]

Don'T think he'll get moved if they got the day two pick they wanted. I think they would. I just don't think people pay that for rental running backs right now no matter how good they are.

[Jay]

Yep. So I would agree. But be nice to see him in Kansas City though.

[Connor Rodgers]

It would. That would be.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, that's the.

[Jay]

I'm done watching Currymont.

[Connor Rodgers]

Yeah, I think. I think America is. Even though we're not getting our wish.

[Matthew Berry]

Why wouldn't you if you're the Chiefs, like you've got this window. Kelsey's probably done after this year.

[Jay]

Like I mean I think they signaled with the Tyreek Hill trade years ago like that the window is kind of everlasting with Patrick Mahomes. Like the windows another five, six years with Patrick Mahomes. So they don't want to over commit to just going all in for one year for a running back when they've been able to win like who have been the running backs on these Chiefs title teams previously. Like, it's not like they've had Saquon Barkley on these teams. They've been getting it done with bit pieces.

[Connor Rodgers]

But for like the 98th pick in this year's draft, I take half a year. Breece Hall. Yeah, that was Kansas City.

[Jay]

Yeah. They need an element because they're, I mean they're facing light boxes and they can't do anything.

[Matthew Berry]

That's right.

[Jay]

Yeah, it's a problem.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah. A late second, I think. Eh. You know, anyway, but we're not running the Chiefs. We are running this show. So let's talk about some of the other guys that are available. If you're in a deeper league and you're like Isaiah Davis hasn't been available in my league in three weeks. Not in my league. If you're one of those guys, which we get because there are a lot of people. So here are some guys that are available in a lot more leagues.

[Connor Rodgers]

Bashal Tootin, he's got that tough Texans defense, but he's been getting more work.

[Matthew Berry]

Bay shalt had 10 touches, had the touchdown at the end of the game as well. How about Blake Corum over the last two games, 35% of the Rams touches. Of course we know Kyron Williams, always a risk of injury. We haven't heard a lot about Saquon Barkley's injury. They're off the bye. But you know there's a chance that Saquon, who's been injured previously, who left his last game a little bit early, Tank Bigsby needs to be rostered 100% elite because there's somebody out there that has Saquon in every single league. How about Sean Tucker who's starting to get a little bit more of a role. We don't know about the return date of Bucky Irving yet. So if Irving comes back this week, it's sort of moot. But felt like Tucker was getting a bigger workload last time we saw him before the buy. 38% of Tampa's running back touches and team running back touches I should say in week eight. And then finally Terrell Jennings.

[Connor Rodgers]

Terrell Jennings.

[Matthew Berry]

We were keep hoping for Travion Henderson to sort of bust through and he did get a bigger workload. But Terrell Jennings got the touchdown. He got half of the team's red zone rushes last week. 12 touches for the Patriots for this red hot Patriots team.

[Jay]

One of the great Madden creator player names Terrell Jennings I didn't know much about before he was getting red zone.

[Matthew Berry]

Touches against the Falcons, but we don't know the timetable for Romandre Stevenson's return either.

[Connor Rodgers]

All right, let's go to wide receivers and the bi week list for wide receivers is significant here. Rasheed Rice, Jamar Chase, both Cowboys and George Pickens and C.D. lamb, T. Higgins, Xavier Worthy, Calvin Ridley and then of course pass catchers in general with tight ends. Jake Ferguson, Travis Kelsey, Noah Fant. This is a brutal pass catcher bye week.

[Matthew Berry]

Yes sir, by far it really is. So you might be looking for some people here. And look, the wide receiver room in Jacksonville just got a little bit more traded crowded with the trade of Jacobi Myers, but we do like Parker Washington. We talked about him last week with the injury to Travis Hunter. We'll see how if and when he comes back. I've seen differing reports. The trade of Myers makes you think that the Hunter Hunter injuries more serious than perhaps they're letting on as well. But here's Parker Washington last week it wasn't just all obviously there's a lot of slot stuff lining up in the slot but like doing different things there in the middle. 27% target share last week for Parker Washington ran 90% of the routes. He was sixth among wide receivers in utilization score in week nine. Of course his score was 88. Utilization score of course. [e-mail] our friend Dwayne McFarlane puts it together. It's an easy number to understand not just their utilization but what it means going forward. And in his career when he sees at least a 15% target share, he's averaging over 13 fantasy points per game. Good game last week. It's going to take a while for Myers to sort of get up to speed. I'm sure he'll be out there this week, but it'll take a little while. BTJ doesn't seem 100%.

[Connor Rodgers]

He hasn't been great this year. No, they just seem lower on him than you'd expect.

[Matthew Berry]

And Diamond Brown is bank. Wasn't Diamond Brown in the concussion protocol? I believe that's right.

[Connor Rodgers]

They have a lot of injury injuries and question marks.

[Jay]

Yep, Parker Washington also finally broke the Sunday pickup lines curse. Going over three and a half receptions is a bad curse on Sunday. It hasn't affected Fridays.

[Connor Rodgers]

I've heard rumors of it, but I.

[Jay]

Haven'T asked been a curse. But Parker Washington is the curse breaker. And look, Houston's defense is obviously very.

[Matthew Berry]

Imposing and I chose that one. That was the one I chose.

[Jay]

Yes.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, see exactly.

[Jay]

Sure if he's bet one or not. Sorry, but it's a. It's a difficult matchup against Houston. At the same time I don't think this Texans defense is quite the level of imposing that it was towards the end of last season particularly in the playoffs against the Chargers. So that game is expected to be close to Jags 1 1/2 point dogs there. So Parker Washington should get plenty of work as Jacoby Myers gets up to speed. Also Jacoby Myers, it's hard to assess like I mean he hasn't had a great season. Is that because he's been kind of checked out waiting to get traded or is he not the same player that he was Lean the former but we still need to see it with Jacoby Myers.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah and by the way it's a bad offense. I mean prior to last week Brock Bowers hadn't done much in this offense like Ashton Genty who everyone said was like this can't miss. Not since Barkley running back he's hasn't.

[Connor Rodgers]

Both rookie wide receivers we haven't seen Jack Besh Jordan like we've seen really nothing from the offense.

[Matthew Berry]

The offense has been broken. And to your point, I don't think Myers has been 100% healthy all year. He's definitely checked out. He's. I mean he literally demanded a trade. Like you know, I mean like he's, he publicly said I want out and.

[Jay]

So was also follow up and he's like yeah sure all of all life.

[Connor Rodgers]

Yeah, where are we going?

[Matthew Berry]

Right, Good news. You're going to. You're going to Gino east and the Trebler. But so I do think like look he runs. Jacoby Myers obviously plays a lot in the slot but he can play both sides. I don't think they're going to want Parker Washington to move outside. So I do think Jacoby Myers moves to the outside here but I think they'll try to be creative with him. It'll take him a little while to get up to speed but whatever Jacoby Myers value was in Las Vegas, I think it's more here in Jacksonville. I think there's more opportunity. I think there's a chance that we don't see Travis Hunter again this year. Again we don't know. You know I've seen reports like it's not that bad and then you're like well but you just. But we still think it's a pass first offense and we like Jacoby Meyer's talent. I think it's just been sort of a lost season here. So I think Jimicomi Myers in Jacksonville maybe not necessarily this week certainly getting Houston in its first week there. But I do think over the next couple of weeks Jacoby Myers can be the guy that he was sort of drafted to be, which is kind of a, you know, a top 25ish wide receiver in that, in that 20 to 30 range. A wide receiver. 3.

[Connor Rodgers]

Our next wide receiver here, guys. Torre Horton. How about Torrey Horton? 95% available. Cooper cup goes down. Torrey Horton, all he does is catch touchdowns. We got to hear from Torrey Horton on his mentorship from Jackson, Smith and Jigba. A lot of his game that I try to, you know, watching, take just piece by piece from it. You know how he maneuvered through routes and you know, get separation, you know, just his run after catch ability, you know, that's something that you can always learn from. And you know, even with Coop, you know just how his mentality on the game and how he maneuvered through things like that. So I'm truly blessed to be behind those guys. And you know, I pick, they bring whenever I get a chance. Torrey Horton with a big game against the commanders. Almost a 17% target share. Obviously the two touchdowns is what matters. Over 20 fantasy points. And the difference with this one, Matthew is he's actually available in most leagues.

[Matthew Berry]

95% available. You know what league he's not available in? Ours, of course.

[Connor Rodgers]

Nothing, nothing's available in our league.

[Jay]

Literally.

[Connor Rodgers]

It's always Alan Lazard. That's who you get every week when you score on the point projections.

[Matthew Berry]

Exactly. It's always, it's always Alan Lazard. Luckily I do have him in our league. So he will be starting this week against the chubby leather daddies. So we're playing each other this week. 45. He's like, he's like a 45 point favorite.

[Connor Rodgers]

It's better lately.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, well, I've been better lately. But no, Jaden, I will see. He, he should probably kill me.

[Jay]

Drake May and Matthew Stafford.

[Matthew Berry]

I do have those. I know. Xavier Worthy. I know Xavier Worthy.

[Connor Rodgers]

Right.

[Jay]

He sucks. I know he did nothing against the Bills.

[Matthew Berry]

I know, I know my team isn't good. But anyway, no Chase Brown. Like you know, I just lost Tucker.

[Jay]

Croft for the year.

[Matthew Berry]

But you have Brock Bowers.

[Connor Rodgers]

It's ridiculous.

[Matthew Berry]

Tight end stack.

[Connor Rodgers]

The old Tucker Craft. Brock Bowers, maybe.

[Jay]

I've got Trey McBride lying around this.

[Connor Rodgers]

Yeah, right.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Oh good.

[Matthew Berry]

No, it's good.

[Jay]

I have my three superstars. Jsanna Monroe, Brock Bowers, none on by. Yeah, we'll stomp you guys.

[Matthew Berry]

I agree. I agree. You're a 45 point favorite.

[Jay]

A chubby stomping.

[Matthew Berry]

Yes, exactly. I will be your leather son. But here's what I will say about Tory. Yeah. Anyway, Tory Horton will be playing against you, but he is available in 95% of leagues and in the two games in which he's seen at least a 15% target share, he scored at least 18 fantasy points. He looks the part more than anything else. Like we just talked about Sam Darnold, we like this offense. We like the fact that Sam Darnold's not afraid to throw deep. Obviously, you have to command. You have to send a lot of defensive pressure and attention to Jackson, Smith and Jigba and that's just opening up stuff for Torre Horton, who is. They use him on special teams and because Cooper Cup's there, they haven't. He hasn't been able to get him into a full time role, but with Cooper cup out on Sunday night, he got a full time role he produced in a big way. I don't know that Cooper cup is coming back this week, but either way, Torrey Horton has earned a larger role in this offense.

[Connor Rodgers]

Right. That's the most important thing is even if Cooper cup comes back, why would you take Torrey Horton off the field? He gives you a down the field speed element. He's good at tracking the ball. I mean, they've really opened things up with him. So it's a barren week on wide receiver waivers. This would be a guy I would target for sure. We got a question here from Aloha Bricks. Who's always out there watching Torrey Horton or Troy Franklin for rest of the season?

[Matthew Berry]

Oh, that's a good.

[Connor Rodgers]

That's a really good one.

[Matthew Berry]

That's a really good one.

[Connor Rodgers]

I would watch and see what the Broncos do today. There's a chance the Broncos make a move today and if they do, then the answer is Torrey Horton.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, I think the answer might be Torrey Horton anyway, just because when Marvin Mims comes back, like I think it's Troy Franklin is their number two, but then you know Marvin Mims and like then they're doing wheel routes with RJ Harvey and they're not a fun watch.

[Connor Rodgers]

For the first three quarters of the.

[Matthew Berry]

Game, it always feels like it's Cortland Sutton and then there's kind of this group and of that group you prefer Troy Franklin to sort of the other guys to the Pat Bryants and the Marvin Mims of the world. But I think there's a chance. I guess what I would say is I think they're both big play guys, they're both talented. But I prefer the target competition that Torrey Horton has, which is not much compared to Troy Franklin, which is a lot.

[Connor Rodgers]

Right.

[Matthew Berry]

I think Horton has the lesser target competition.

[Jay]

Also prefer Horton's quarterback.

[Matthew Berry]

That's fair. Yes, that's also fair.

[Connor Rodgers]

Our next, our next wide receiver, Alec Pierce here. Jay. The always Underappreciated Alec Pierce, 74% available, surprises me. He's been the vertical threat in this very good Colts offense.

[Matthew Berry]

How do you feel about it being 74% available? Because you have been ringing the bell on Alec Pierce all season long.

[Jay]

I feel like I'm not respected in this fine nation. But Alec Pierce, his, that 74% is about to go down because he's no longer just as we've spoken about, he's no longer just a deep ball threat. He's no longer poor man's Rasheed Shahid. He's actually a guy who's developed more sophistication to his route tree. He's able to earn 13 targets against the Steelers. That's his second double digit target game in the past three weeks. Goes for 115 yards. And Danny Dimes left side, some dimes on the table in that game. He missed Alec Pierce wide open for what would have been a 40, 50 yarder as well. So look, Alec Pierce, Pittman's the guy you want in the passing game in terms of the wide receivers. But Alec Pierce I think is now moved above Josh Downs as the clear number two guy. I think there will be weeks certainly where he exceeds Pittman.

[Matthew Berry]

I think he's the number three in that passing offense behind Tyler Warren as well. And the run heavy with with Jonathan Taylor. But I agree with you, Pierce needs to be rostered more. We like his talent.

[Jay]

Yeah. Tyler Warren also like he doesn't have monster. He hasn't a monster game. So he hasn't 100 yard.

[Connor Rodgers]

He's kind of just been Steady Eddie all year.

[Jay]

He's just like pencil him in five for 60 every week.

[Matthew Berry]

Tyler Warren with a shot at a touchdown here.

[Connor Rodgers]

All right, our deeper league targets. Speaking of Troy Franklin, he's got the Raiders and 52% available, so there's a chance he's out there for you. He meets our threshold. Christian Watson, who is the ultimate deep ball merchant.

[Matthew Berry]

Yes.

[Connor Rodgers]

Right now, which that is a good thing in the packers offense where Jordan Love is always looking to throw the ball down the field. He's got the Eagles, Darius Slayton. Just because of the usage in the Giants offense, they're really running out of bodies on that in the skill group. Tez Johnson as a potential flex here, Matthew, and then we'll see if Jack Besh ever actually does play for the Raiders now that they moved out Jacoby Myers.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, I mean Tez Johnson since week five, he's averaging over 11 fantasy points per game. We've talked about Watson, you know, in terms of running the deep routes. TROY Franklin has 28 targets over the last three weeks. I mean, like again, you still prefer Cortland Sutton there, but it does feel like he's established himself as a step above the remaining wide receiver by committee there in Denver.

[Connor Rodgers]

All right, if you need help at tight end, we start with the man of the weekend or the play of the weekend. Colston Loveland, 76% available. He obviously catches the game winning touchdown, but just the usage before that. Matthew was so encouraging to see him involved in the game. He's got the Giants defense this week.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, which you certainly like. Four straight weeks with a red zone target and an end zone target and two straight. So Caleb Williams starting to look at him when they get a little bit closer. Last two weeks he's a 76% route participation. Cole Comet left the game last week in the concussion protocol. Obviously if Kemet is out, you certainly like Loveland's opportunity even more. But you know, he was out there a ton last week with KEMET out. 97 utilization score. Only Brock Bowers had a higher one. You also see he was second behind Brock Bowers in terms of fantasy points last week. Now a lot of that was kind of lifted up by that crazy long play at the end with the missed tackles.

[Connor Rodgers]

But made a good day into an elite day is what I would say.

[Matthew Berry]

I agree with that. And you're not scared of this Giants defense by the way, at Minnesota home to Pittsburgh, which is usually a really good matchup for tight ends. So we do think Loveland, similar to Torrey Horton, has to have earned a bigger role in this offense moving forward.

[Jay]

Definitely. I think as well a lot of Chicago's past game production has been suppressed because they had that four game winning streak where a couple of games Caleb really didn't have to do much at all. Like the Bears are a fine team. They're not a great team though, and they should have to be in more throw scripts going forward which will benefit Colson Loveland.

[Connor Rodgers]

Our next tight end, Harold Fannin Jr. He's 57% available. Despite having a really, really strong rookie season. He might be buried in your league because he's Coming off the bye here, Matthew and tight ends have been very good against the jets this year.

[Matthew Berry]

They have been. They have been. They've allowed 20 fantasy points the jets now the jets have allowed 20 fantasy points opposing tight ends in three of their last five games. You know, since week five, Harold Fannin is the 10th best tight end. Be interested to see, by the way, if David Njoku goes on the move by 4 o' clock today, he's been rumored to be out there.

[Connor Rodgers]

Pretty likely, yeah. He's on an expiring deal. He's been banged up. They want to funnel targets to Fannin.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah. So by the way, so I will just say this. If, if n' Joku does get dealt Fannin, I would move Fannin above Loveland. I'd feel better about his. I'd feel better about his role moving forward. It does seem like there's a connection between him and Dylan Gabriel, probably because by the way, Dylan Gabriel can, you know, throw past 10 yards, which is kind of Fannin's route tree.

[Connor Rodgers]

He fits the mold of what they do schematically right now.

[Matthew Berry]

By the way, just real quickly, as long as we're talking Browns, it didn't make this on the others receiving votes that we were just talking about with the wide receivers, but club said is back open. Club set is back open. Yeah, exactly. And just so Cedric Tillman is not 100% rostered worth seeing if he was dropped in your league because I agree he would be my favorite of all these guys. I prefer him over Parker Washington. I'd prefer him over Tory Horton. I get that Dylan Gabriel hasn't been great, but I just love Cedric Tillman. I know you do as well.

[Connor Rodgers]

And what if there's a world where the last five weeks of the season we see Shadir Sanders who will throw the ball down the field to his wide receivers. I'm just saying there's a world where you're in the fantasy playoffs, you're desperate in the flex spot or you're trying to make the playoffs. And club said could be there's a chance he's usable.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah. So check. See his availability in your league as well some of the other tight ends that are out there. How about Dalton Schultz, you know, who is. Well, you know, he's a tight end. He qualifies. A tight end. He has been, you know, a target for C.J. stroud recently. 11 fantasy points or more in three of the last four games. How about Cade Otten, who since Week 5 has had almost a 20% target share? Juwan Johnson is the new Hunter Henry. He's on this list every single week, but three straight games with double digit fantasy points. The one thing that Tyler Schuck was able to do last week was get the ball to Juwan Johnson. For the past five weeks, Theo Johnson's had at least an 18% target share. And the new Tucker Cross in Green Bay is Luke Musgrave, who's available in 99% of the leagues. Packers seventh in the NFL in tight end target share. Now obviously that is influenced by Tucker Kraft, but there was a scenario when these guys came out of college, Luke Musgrave was considered the better prospect.

[Connor Rodgers]

He's taken over him.

[Matthew Berry]

Yes, he was drafted ahead of time.

[Connor Rodgers]

Some people had it ranked the correct way.

[Jay]

Oh wow.

[Connor Rodgers]

But they drafted it and it doesn't matter. It all worked out the same. They got Tucker Kraft too.

[Jay]

Luke Musgrave, first rounder.

[Connor Rodgers]

No, second round, second rounder. And then they took Craft in the Craft in the fourth.

[Matthew Berry]

Right. And you had Kraft over Musgrave in your, in your pre draft rankings. But either way, right again, the packers at one point valued Musgrave without over Tucker and like just because he wasn't able to beat out Tucker Kraft who's been phenomenal since he got the starting job. Like Luke Musgrave has talent. Like I remember his rookie year. I mean me saying like Luke Musgrave is going to be a thing at some point this year. Never wrong, just early.

[Connor Rodgers]

And so they traded for David and Joku today.

[Matthew Berry]

Yes, exactly. Never wrong, just early. So Musgrave, it only took two and a half years, but I do think he's really good after the catch in a different way that Tucker Kraft is. Tucker Kraft is more physical, Musgrave is more speedy. But I do think they both have that ability once they get the ball in their hands and they're in space to make some, make some hay with it.

[Jay]

That's just a huge part of LaFleur's offense. Like that's. Even though Tigercraft has gone, that role will remain. There's upside for Musgrave and the good thing is that he's young enough that there's still talent ceiling there. It's not like it's not a Dalton Schultz operation.

[Connor Rodgers]

Alright, if you need a defense real quickly, the Browns against the Jets, 67% available. The Bills against the Dolphins, 57% available. The Panthers against Tyler Schuck's Saints, that's 97% available. The other way around, the jets against still Gabriel and the Browns and the Bucs against the Patriots we're going to.

[Matthew Berry]

Take our first break. Depending on your needs. Like if you didn't have a significant position need and you play in the league with a defense, the Browns might be my number one waiver claim. Going up against the team with how.

[Connor Rodgers]

Bad the skill options are, right? Definitely a chance. And they're only 67% available.

[Matthew Berry]

That's what I'm saying.

[Connor Rodgers]

All right, we'll be back right after this.

[Matthew Berry]

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[Jay]

What did Barb do to create opportunities.

[Connor Rodgers]

Early and often for you to find him?

[Jay]

Put his pads on, show it up. I mean, once he got off the bus, I knew it was gonna be open, you know, we knew we were gonna get our chances outside. And, you know, and he, you know, this has been building for him, you know, and it's still stepped in the right direction, but you saw it in his eyes when he got off the bus and we were in the locker room and I'm like, coach told me what the first couple plays were. And he was like, we won't switch it up. And we're going to do this for Marvin.

[Connor Rodgers]

And I'm like, all right.

[Jay]

And, you know, I think I threw up to him four times in a row on the first drive. And I was like, I think I'm going to do this the whole game.

[Connor Rodgers]

That was Jacoby Brissette on Marvin Harrison Jr. And his big night, as those.

[Matthew Berry]

Are the two leaderboards.

[Connor Rodgers]

Amongst the notable fantasy performances in. In this game. Trey McBride. There are no Cowboy on this list until CD Lamb at fourth with just 15 and a half points.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, you look and. And great game from Marvin Harrison Jr. 34% target share. It's only. It's only his second game this year with a target share above 21%. It's only his third game with 70 or more receiving yards. And I think, you know, Jacoby said that he knew it as soon as, like, he put on the pads. I knew it as soon as I saw Marvin Harrison Sr's tweet.

[Connor Rodgers]

Right.

[Matthew Berry]

So here you go at Sleeperaz. Cardinals quote. What I do know is you can put Marvin Harrison Sr. In my prime in Arizona right now. And guess what happened. Canton, Ohio, is going to send me a prepaid envelope and say, could you please send that jacket back? So that's via Josh Weinfuss, who covers the Cardinals for espn. So, yeah, Marvin Harrison Sr. Drinks free. Because as soon as I saw that quote.

[Connor Rodgers]

Oh, it was after our show, too.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Connor Rodgers]

Which I think we would have. We would have hammered all the mhj.

[Matthew Berry]

We would have said Harrison on the over. Every single. Give me the over. Every single prop.

[Jay]

One of the great Indianapolis Colts. I remember as a young boy growing up in Indianapolis. Yeah. Watching the great MHJ Senior. But no, look, the funny thing is, like, okay, MHJ is now broken. Broken out. He looked fantastic. He's probably going to get a new quarterback next week. And so what does he look like with Kyler Murray? Because the connection there is clearly is with Jacoby Brissette, but we haven't seen it with Kyler to nearly the same extent.

[Matthew Berry]

I'm not convinced, by the way, that he does get a new quarterback next week. I will say two things. So they said on the game broadcast. So Joe Buck. Joe Buck and Troy Aikman were saying on the game broadcast that, like, hey, like, you know, they may not go to Kyler. Like, again, you know, game broadcasters will talk to each of the coaches and they sort of are couched in what they say. But. But reading between the lines, it sort of. It felt like to me, again, I have no inside information. I'm just going off of what I heard Joe and Troy say on the air last night. It sounded like they were basically saying, like, Gannon kind of hinted that, like, he's not married to Kyler Murray. I will also say that our friend and colleague Mike Florio on Football Night in America on Sunday said, don't be surprised if Kyler Murray gets moved this off season. So if they don't think Kyler Murray is definitely part of their plans for the future. And Jacoby Brissette looked awesome last night, by the way. Had over 100 yards passing in each of each half that cashed. Thank you very much. Like, then I think there's a scenario where, like, if you're Jonathan Gannon, like, why, if. Why would you go back to Kyler Murray?

[Jay]

Well, because you paid him a lot of money, and I still think there's more money. Yeah, there's still more upside in Kyler than Jacoby was set in terms of the long term. They took him first overall. The. The other thing, too, is that if you, if you announce that Kobe Brissette is your starter going forward, well, next week they play the Seahawks in Seattle. So I'm not sure that's going to be a great setup. I think if you wanted to move on from Kyler Murray, you almost want to bring Kyler back for this game against the Seahawks, but we'll see. I mean, Gannon has been fairly steadfast in saying that Kyler is the starter when he's healthy. He's just not healthy at the moment. But, yeah, it is a little strange that this is. I mean, there was rooms that Kyle's gonna be back, like, three weeks ago. It's kind of like J.J. mcCarthy, Arizona style.

[Connor Rodgers]

Right. Where, like, Each week it changes a little bit.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah. So I don't know. I'm just saying like by the way, if Jacoby Brissette's out there in your league and you need a quarterback, I wouldn't mind just grabbing him and just to see because again we've seen this. Like he's going to be aggressive throwing the ball. They have some nice weapons obviously in Harrison and McBride and so I'm just saying, I think, I think there is a non zero chance that Kyler Murray is healthy next week, but not the starting quarterback of the Arizona Cardinals. One thing I do know for sure, Connor Rodgers is that wherever whoever is starting in the secondary for the jets next week, it's not going to be Sasha. Colts.

[Connor Rodgers]

You're sure? Two first round picks?

[Matthew Berry]

Really? Yes.

[Connor Rodgers]

Adam Schefter says Colts are trading two first round picks to the the jets for cornerback Sauce Gardner. Massive move on trade deadline day.

[Matthew Berry]

So Connor, obviously not a ton of fantasy impact, but you are the host of Badlands, the second best jets podcast in all the land. We're. We'll get Lawrence and I'll get an episode of Worst Lands out later. You got to get going.

[Connor Rodgers]

People are waiting.

[Matthew Berry]

People are waiting. But you guys take what is. I'm just curious. You are the ultimate Jet. This is pretty big, Sikors.

[Connor Rodgers]

Pretty big.

[Jay]

That's a shocker a little bit because.

[Connor Rodgers]

He just signed the extension over the summer. My take is on this. You take the two first round picks because the jets are going to be drafting a quarterback in the spring and you need assets to build around that player and it costs to get those assets. Sauce Gardner is a really good player. I know he takes a lot of weird flack on social media for being grabby. This is a great move for the Colts. They've been bad at cornerback. Sauce Gardner is one of the premier corners in the league and I think this signals that the jets are like they're not going to. I don't think they're going to trade Garrett Wilson or anyone like that, but they are trying to build the infrastructure for a rookie quarterback and they could use these two first round picks to do that.

[Jay]

The crazy thing is is that the Colts go from this diabolical corner situation when Chavarius Ward gets off ir, right? All of a sudden you've got Javeris Warden, Source Garner on the outside and Kenny Moore as the slot corner. It's like the best corner room in the league.

[Connor Rodgers]

It's an all in move from the Colts, which now's the time with Jonathan Taylor and this season you're getting from Daniel Jones. Chris Ballard's been waiting a long time to build a winner there. And for the jets, this is a little bit of a signal of like, hey, they've been. Aaron Glenn came in and said, we're going to win. Now this is a signal like no, we're going to. We're going to rebuild it.

[Matthew Berry]

Now you wonder, does this mean Breece more likely that tall is on the.

[Connor Rodgers]

What's the fallout effect? I don't think Garrett Wilson is moved because once again they're trying to build an infrastructure for a future quarterback.

[Matthew Berry]

Right.

[Connor Rodgers]

But I don't think a lot of things are off the table now when you do this move.

[Matthew Berry]

I mean, right.

[Connor Rodgers]

I mean Williams, Jermaine Johnson, Breece hall, because he's. He's on an expiring for sure.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, for sure.

[Connor Rodgers]

What's the line? Yeah, there is none. When you make this move, when you.

[Matthew Berry]

Make 1000% when you make this kind of move, by the way, Cedric Tillman suddenly becomes very interesting this week with no sauce Gardner, you know, already can't.

[Connor Rodgers]

Get away from it.

[Matthew Berry]

Everything comes back to Cedric Tillman. Colts are winning the Super Bowl. Cedric Tillman, by the way, just got a. Just got another alert. The Saints are sending wide receiver Rashid Shahid to the Seahawks.

[Jay]

Oh goodness.

[Matthew Berry]

This is. This is from Tom Pelisserome's done. Hang on. Is it. Is it Tory Horton or is it Cooper Cup? Now I understand Horton is a deep threat and Shahid is like. Is much closer but could cup be more injured than.

[Jay]

That's a good point.

[Connor Rodgers]

We think. Man, this is Sam Darnold.

[Matthew Berry]

Wow. You know, so. But yes, it's another kind of all in move. I will tell you. I actually think this hurts Shaheed's fantasy value. It's probably mostly neutral, just less targets because now he's competing. Now he's competing with JSN.

[Jay]

38% target share.

[Matthew Berry]

Right. And who is as much as we like Chris Olave, he's not Jackson Smith.

[Jay]

And Jigs but the best w Saver football.

[Matthew Berry]

That's right. And so he goes to. He goes to a. He goes to a better quarterback in a better offensive environment. By the way.

[Jay]

Just.

[Matthew Berry]

I'm doing this all in my head. Clint Kubiak. Right. Clint Kubiak, currently offensive coordinator of the Seattle Seahawks. Obviously was the offensive coordinator in New Orleans, so obviously familiar with Shahid. The other thing is Shahid plays special teams and so does Torrey Horton. So does. This is the move is to free one of them up. You know what I mean?

[Connor Rodgers]

Like, like you get a trickle effect, right?

[Matthew Berry]

Exactly. I can use, I can use Horton Moore because I can now bring in Shahid to play some special teams or hey, this will, you know, I can now really utilize Shaheed because I've got Horton. You know, it's interesting to see how it all plays out. I think either way, if you have Shaheed, you prefer it's a better, you prefer the move to Sam Darnold and Seahawks than the Saints, even though maybe less target share but probably more effective.

[Jay]

I think the main thing is just like Torrey Horton's now less attractive as a pickup.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Connor Rodgers]

Yeah. All right, we're going to take one last break. It's going to be a crazy day for the NFL trade deadline. Clearly, when we're back, we're looking at our early week bets. Last call right after this.

[Matthew Berry]

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[Matthew Berry]

The Crown the crown is yours.

[Connor Rodgers]

The crown is yours early line alert for last call as we look at the opening totals and sides, Jay, what do you have your eye on?

[Jay]

Taking the Raiders plus nine and a half against the Broncos.

[Matthew Berry]

A lot of points.

[Jay]

I mean, look how much how competent they looked on the weekend against the Jags. Brock Bowers looked magnificent.

[Connor Rodgers]

All right, I'm going with the Ravens minus three and a half against the Vikings. You said earlier, Matthew, their defense is getting healthy. I think that's been quietly building. Now Lamar's back. I don't know if the Vikings can keep pace with their offense in this game. Three and a half. I'll take the line.

[Matthew Berry]

I'll take the Lions minus eight and a half. Like we've given up. Like last week was the week to show up and say something. And now they've lost Jaden Daniels Lions angry after a bad loss. They're going to go off. Give me eight and a half. Hey for Jay and Conrad. Matthew got to go home. Peace out in Walmart through Louisville, everyone readied their cartoon.

[Jay]

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[Matthew Berry]

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[Jay]

Who knew?