Week 11 Love/Hate: Ashton Jeanty, DeVonta Smith, DK Metcalf, Justin Herbert

Summary

Fantasy Football Happy Hour with Matthew Berry

Episode: Week 11 Love/Hate: Ashton Jeanty, DeVonta Smith, DK Metcalf, Justin Herbert
Release Date: November 13, 2025
Host: Matthew Berry (NBC Sports), with Jay Croucher & Lawrence Jackson

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into Matthew Berry’s “Love/Hate” analysis for Week 11, spotlighting key players for your fantasy football lineups. The crew banters about language blunders, reveals their favorite and least favorite positional matchups, and hands out actionable start/sit advice with their signature wit. Notable names include Ashton Jeanty, DeVonta Smith, DK Metcalf, and Justin Herbert, but the episode travels the entire landscape of fantasy-relevant players, with a focus on running backs and wide receivers. The show features plenty of playful moments, practical insight, and detailed discussion—in true “Happy Hour” spirit.

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Banter & Language Fun

[00:01–03:30]

• The episode kicks off with a lighthearted discussion on Matthew Berry's notorious mispronunciations (“boyo’d” instead of “buoyed”), prompting playful ribbing from Jay and Lawrence.

• The team jokes about learning new words during the show, recapping past Berry gaffes and how live TV can lead to a “butchering” of the English language.

  “English is my second language. Everyone knows this.” – Matthew Berry (01:15)
  “I come here to learn words… it wasn’t until Fantasy Football Happy Hour that I learned the word eviscerated.” – Lawrence Jackson (02:23)

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Running Backs: Love/Hate Analysis

Ashton Jeanty: Star of the Week

[03:49–05:42]

• Berry’s Take: Jeanty faces Dallas and averages 19 touches/game with a 15% target share.
• Dallas Defense Stat: RBs with at least 15 touches vs Dallas are averaging 130 scrimmage yards; Dallas has given up 30+ fantasy points to RBs in 4 of their last 6 games.
• Fantasy Advice:

  “Ergo, ipso facto… Ashton Jeanty makes the love list. He’s my running back 7.” – Matthew Berry (05:38)

Rico Dowdle: Reliable Workhorse

[06:56–07:50]

• Lawrence: Dowdle gets the Falcons, who surrendered 244 rushing yards to Jonathan Taylor. “Great matchup… he’s going to get north of 20 touches and you love that.”
• The Falcons' latest collapse and coaching future are critiqued—“too much talent… to be 3 and 7.”

Jalen Warren: The Bengal Buster

[09:34–10:58]

• Berry’s Stat Dump:

  “Bengals give up 185 scrimmage yards [and] 33.5 fantasy points per game to opposing backfields... When Jalen Warren played Cincinnati in Week 7, he had 158 scrimmage yards.” – Matthew Berry (09:43)

• Team Consensus: Start any RB facing the Bengals.

Other 'Love List' Backs

[11:13–13:18]

• Kymani Vidal gets a favorable Jags matchup after their run D collapse.
• Chase Brown: “Since Joe Flacco became starter…11th best RB in fantasy—with full workload expected.” (11:58)
• Woody Marks (playing the porous Titans run D).
• Sean Tucker (deep league option if desperate; limited upside vs Bills).

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Hate List Running Backs

Kenneth Walker III

[13:39–14:55]

• Berry: “Since Week 5, he’s RB41 in fantasy points/game. He’s averaging 1.3 targets/game. The Rams allow the fewest points to RBs.”
• Advice: Sit Walker even in deep formats: “You still would not start Ken Walker.”

Commanders RBs

[15:13–16:12]

• Jay: “One of the strangest subplots... the Dolphins are suddenly an elite run defense. No interest in Commanders RBs.”

Jets’ Breece Hall

[16:27–17:42]

• Lawrence: “Pats allow the fourth fewest points to RBs—no RB has run for more than 53 yds vs them. Hall’s hope is through receiving work.”

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Wide Receivers & Pass Catchers: Love/Hate

Devonta Smith versus A.J. Brown

[22:01–22:51, 33:29–36:05]

• Jay on Smith:

  “Devonta Smith has clearly surpassed [A.J. Brown] as the number one wide receiver in this offense.” (22:11)

• Berry: “Since week 7, 41% target share… He’s my WR13 and has outscored A.J. Brown in six of eight games together.”
• Lawrence: “If you took A.J. Brown in fantasy, you simply took the wrong Eagles receiver.”

DK Metcalf: Can the Bengals Cure Him?

[22:54–23:55]

• Jay: “If there’s anything that can cure DK Metcalf, it’s the Bengals defense… bad in every way.”
• Lawrence: “He’ll get 4-5 catches, 110-125 yards—they’re susceptible to that.”

Jalen Waddle

[17:42–18:33]

• Berry: “He’s averaging 16 fantasy points/game since Tyreek Hill went down. Commanders have given up 20+ to a WR four straight games.”

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Other Notable Targets

[18:51–20:44, 26:03–27:30]

• Zay Flowers: Consistent yardage, and faces a Browns D more vulnerable to WRs than reputation suggests.
• Tee Higgins: With Joe Flacco, 8+ target games and four TDs in three games; Steelers allow most yards to perimeter WRs.
• Khalil Shakir, Greg Dortch, Kyle Pitts, Cade Otten: Each called out as startable in deeper or injury-plagued situations, with supporting target share stats.

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Hate List Wide Receivers

[28:51–30:40, 33:29–36:05]

• Xavier Worthy: Target share and deep plays down since Rashee Rice returned. Denver allows the second lowest deep ball completion rate.
• Jameson Williams: “Eagles defense is a different animal to the Commanders.”
• A.J. Brown:

  “If you got me in fantasy, get rid of me.” – A.J. Brown (33:38, 34:01)
  Berry & Lawrence agree: “You just took the wrong Eagles receiver this year.”

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Quarterbacks: Love/Hate

Love List

[41:25–47:41]

• Drake Maye: “He’s been nothing short of fantastic… He comes in as your QB3 ahead of Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes.” (41:25)
• Berry: “When Patriots score at least 25, Maye gets at least 24 [fantasy points]. NE is tied for highest implied team total.”
• Tua Tagovailoa: “Commanders have allowed QBs 264+ yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs in four straight games. If Tua’s going to get back to big fantasy days, this is it.” (44:34)
• Justin Herbert: “No team has allowed more points to QBs since week 5 than the Jags. Four straight QBs with 26+ points.” (46:14)
• Marcus Mariota (Streamer): Dolphins allow the second most rushing TDs to QBs; viable in superflex.

Hate List

[48:28–50:44]

• Bo Nix: “Since week 6, he’s 30th in yards/pass attempt. Chiefs’ D is healthy, coming off a bye—no thank you.” (48:28)
• Trevor Lawrence: “Chargers allow third fewest points to QBs. Lawrence has two TDs and two INTs in last three.”
• Jared Goff: Avoid vs the reinvigorated Eagles D.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The Bengals, they bone you. Unless you have a running back going against them, in which case they anti-bone you.” – Matthew Berry (10:47)
• “If you got me in fantasy, get rid of me. Like, I couldn’t appreciate that more as a fantasy manager.” – Lawrence Jackson, citing A.J. Brown (33:38)
• “Jalen Waddle is my WR11… Once you see the Commanders pass defense live, it’s a comedy sketch.” – Matthew Berry (17:59)
• “I come here to learn words… it wasn’t until Fantasy Football Happy Hour I learned the word eviscerated.” – Lawrence Jackson (02:23)
• “If you took A.J. Brown in fantasy, you took the wrong Eagles receiver.” – Lawrence Jackson (35:05)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Banter & Language: 00:01–03:30
• RB Love/Hate (Jeanty, Dowdle, Warren): 03:49–10:58
• WR Love/Hate (Smith, Metcalf, Waddle): 17:42–23:55, 22:11–22:51
• QB Love/Hate (Maye, Herbert, Tua): 41:25–47:41
• Hate List (Walker, Commanders RBs, A.J. Brown): 13:39–17:42, 33:29–36:05
• Best Bets: 53:28–55:30

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Best Bets & Final Thoughts

[53:28–55:51]

• Jay: Patriots -12.5; expects a blowout.
• Lawrence: Breece Hall over 3 receptions, citing inevitable negative game script and lack of other pass catchers.
• Matthew: Mack Hollins over 37.5 receiving yards; expects deep targets with Diggs/Douglas commanding attention.

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Summary

This energetic, sharp-witted episode is packed with actionable fantasy football advice for Week 11—especially for those grappling with difficult start/sit decisions at RB and WR. Statistical deep dives, lively debate, and evergreen Berry-isms make it essential listening (or reading) for any fantasy manager hoping for a playoff push. The show’s intertwined humor and insight highlight Ashton Jeanty, Devonta Smith, DK Metcalf, and Justin Herbert as focal points, with a clear directive: lean into good matchups and avoid struggling stars where warranted, no matter the name value.

For a full list of rankings, check Matthew Berry’s written column at NBCSports.com as referenced in the show’s close.

Transcript

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[Matthew Berry]

Utilization score is the same. Fantasy points per game has gone up entirely boyo'd by the four touchdowns.

[Jay Croucher]

I'm sorry, what? Oh, my goodness. And you're criticizing me for Magnolia when you're saying boyo'd.

[Matthew Berry]

English is my second language. Everyone knows this.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Boyo.

[Matthew Berry]

Boyo'd. Yeah, it's just me. With me it's just a language issue. With you it's just bad taste.

[Jay Croucher]

I've heard buoyed before. I've heard Boyd. I've never heard.

[Matthew Berry]

Anyway, whatever.

[Jay Croucher]

You sunk the segment with your boyo comments. You give me great job security hosting this show.

[Matthew Berry]

It's really lovely. Fantasy Football Happy Hour with Matthew Berry.

[Jay Croucher]

Hi, welcome to the Fantasy Football Happy Hour. I'm Jay Croucher. Matthew Barry and Lawrence Jackson.

[Matthew Berry]

Noah Webster drinks for free.

[Jay Croucher]

The great dictionary created.

[Matthew Berry]

I am sure he is rolling over in his grave after hearing me butcher. What? What I'm passing off as the English language.

[Jay Croucher]

Suave man cooking early in the chat. Oh, the area's boy. Oh, boy. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. No, I believe Scott McClory. Well, I keep rolling in. Matthew. Chef, boy, pronounceler.

[Matthew Berry]

That's the winner. The mispronouncer is pretty good. It's pretty. Did you. Here's my question. Like, obviously, like, I butchered a lot of different things when you're. When you've been on air as much as I have over, you know, over 20 years, I've been on some version of live TV. Yeah, I butchered a lot of different words. I Don't think I've ever butchered something as poorly as I did yesterday with a clip you just saw. Here's my question. But here's my question to you guys. Did you know like what I was going for? Yeah. B O U, Y E D. I.

[Jay Croucher]

Knew what you were trying to say.

[Matthew Berry]

Right. Okay. How would I say that word?

[Jay Croucher]

Okay, so let me know to. Yeah. So there's two ways to say it. In British English, you say buoyed. So in Australia, you say boyd. In America, apparently you guys say buoyed. There's no corner of the earth where you say boy hoed outside of this.

[Matthew Berry]

Little corner right here. Buoyed is what I meant to say.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Buoyed.

[Matthew Berry]

Like this basically lifted up. Yes, elevated is what I.

[Jay Croucher]

Unfortunately, you sunk the show with the comment.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Unless you wouldn't use that word.

[Jay Croucher]

Me personally, I can see you hesitating.

[Matthew Berry]

That's you.

[Lawrence Jackson]

I come here to learn words. Like it wasn't until fantasy football happy hour when I learned the word eviscerated. That's like Jay, favorite word.

[Jay Croucher]

Eviscerated.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, eviscerated. Renaissance.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Renaissance. That's a new one. You know.

[Matthew Berry]

Producer Damian with Devon Ashanay, the Dolphins running back. We were like, who are you talking about?

[Jay Croucher]

Let's get into. Let's see if Matthew continues to eviscerate the English language in today's show. But it's love, hate.

[Matthew Berry]

Yes, sir.

[Jay Croucher]

We're going to run through that. We're going to talk about Jets Patriots, AFC showdown on Thursday night football. We'll get to our best bets. But let's start off with love, hate running backs. Matthew, let's take a look at your Running back ranks 1 through 10. Headline by Guy who's not had a great season so far but still upside, Ashton Genty comes in number seven. If you told me before the season, Aston Genty was going to come in after Rico Dowdle running backs rank, he would have thought very strange things. But Ashton Genty, there have been some signs of life and he's getting a lot of usage as we see his game log dating back to week four, which is his best game of the season against The Bears at 22 touches against the Broncos, didn't do a good great deal with it relative to the workload, but gets into the end zone and scores 15 points.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, he was a superstar. If you remember that Thursday night game, you know, again in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. And the usage, I think, Jay. Yeah, of course there's one that maybe Lawrence won that one, too.

[Lawrence Jackson]

By 2026, you won't be able to say that.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Jay Croucher]

Unbelievable. Yeah, that's a good one.

[Matthew Berry]

So the usage J. I'm going to try to give some fantasy advice here. The usage J that you mentioned is sort of the key, right, to your week four ashen Genti averaging 19 touches per game. He's got a 15% target share. Here's why I bring up that number 19 touches. Because he plays the Cowboys this week. And running backs have seen at least 15 touches. Just four measly touches. Less Lawrence Running backs that have seen at least 15 touches against the Cowboys this year are averaging 130 yards from scrimmage this year. So you're telling me Ashton Jente is averaging 19 running backs that get 15 against the Cowboys get at least 130 yards from scrimmage. They've also given at least 30 fantasy points to running backs in four of their past six games. So, ergo, ipso facto, therefore, Ashton Genti makes the Loveless. He's my running back. 7. I think he has a big game against Dallas.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah. Obviously you got to start Ashton Genti everywhere. I'd be a little concerned that the offensive line is basically me and Lawrence out there for the Raiders.

[Lawrence Jackson]

You got faith, though, because you saw him get a little better versus the Jaguars. Then they stunk against the Broncos. So I got enough faith in the even.

[Matthew Berry]

Even in a game against the Broncos where everything just turned.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Yeah, right. He still is the one guy who.

[Matthew Berry]

Still got into the end zone. Still got you.

[Lawrence Jackson]

So against Dallas, Gotta love it.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah. We'll say we'll see what Dallas's defense does now that Quinn and Williams is in the middle. But regardless, you're starting Ashton Genti. Kjema89. Genti better get no less than 25 touches or chip Kelly better walk to Mexico.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Wow. Mexico.

[Jay Croucher]

I don't think Chip would make it. Yeah, I don't think he'd make it on that walk.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Especially if he's walking.

[Matthew Berry]

Can you imagine Chip Kelly at the border? And they're like, I'm sorry, but we've seen your offense. We don't want you over here.

[Lawrence Jackson]

We don't want you here. Keep that over there.

[Matthew Berry]

Keep that over there.

[Jay Croucher]

Picturing Vince Vaughn at the end of season two, a true detective walking in the desert didn't work out great for Vince there. Probably wouldn't either. For Chip Kelly.

[Matthew Berry]

I was hoping. Spoiler alert. I was hoping he'd make it. I was sort of rooting for Vince at the end of True Detective Season two.

[Jay Croucher]

I Kind of understand why I didn't care by the end. It wasn't a great season.

[Matthew Berry]

It was not a great. It was not a great season, but I still sort of cared. I wanted him to make it anyway. Oh, well.

[Jay Croucher]

A guy who is making it, Lawrence, is Rico Dowdle, who is now workhorse running back for the Carolina Panthers and gets Falcons run D. That just gave up 244 yards to our man, Jonathan Taylor.

[Lawrence Jackson]

I would sit here and say, you know what, he won't get 200 rushing yards, but Rico Dowdle has a 200 yard rushing game this season. But what we saw last week, finally out of Rico Dowdle, that when he starts, he's just a regular man. He's mortal. He can, you know, he can be held under 100 scrimmage yards. It was the first time that he's been held under 130 scrimmage yards in the first game since he's been starting these games. But now going up against these Falcons who allow the fifth most points to running backs in fantasy, Rico Doddle get a great matchup here. It's not a game where there's a crazy spread. He's going to get north of 20 touches and you love that against this Falcons run defense who's light up front.

[Jay Croucher]

Yep. If you're watching Atlanta Falcons, it's time to cure the unseriousness around this football team. Like, this team's a mess. Like, you can't load the box. You can't go three and seven. Like, there's too much talent on this team to be 3 and 7 win this game.

[Matthew Berry]

If they do go to 3 and 7, if they do finish third in the NFC south, could be fourth.

[Jay Croucher]

They're only one game ahead of the Saints.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Tyler Schuck has given them life, which is crazy. I mean, are they cleaning house? Lawrence, you're a Falcons fan. Is Raheem Morris gone?

[Lawrence Jackson]

I gotta.

[Matthew Berry]

They signed Kirk Hunter $100 million deal. They use a top 12 pick on Michael Penix.

[Lawrence Jackson]

I gotta feel like something would probably be brewing there because look, you've. You're finding ways to lose these close games. You had a chance versus the Patriots. You had a chance versus the coach. You find ways to lose. The better team find ways to win. So now you get the Panthers who just lost to the Saints. You have to win that game, that 30 to 0 blowout weeks ago. That doesn't matter anymore. You should be the better team.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, the Colts game, whatever. The Falcons played reasonably well in that game. The Patriots Won though down there. You lost the game. Basically cost yourself your season because someone snapped the ball to Michael Penix when he wasn't ready for it and took an intentional grounding penalty to effectively kill the playoff hopes. Cameron Azeez. Hey, guys, need to sit one running back in half PPR in a big matchup. Genty James Cook. Rico Dowdle. Travion Henderson. It's Travion Henderson.

[Matthew Berry]

Now listen, there's. There's suggestions that Travion Henderson is going to get a big workload tonight, but I think, you know, he's the guy that you feel less. I think all guys should have a good game this week. But Henderson is who I would sit here. There's just.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Yeah, for sure.

[Matthew Berry]

Less of a track record, less certainty about his role.

[Jay Croucher]

I saw a humble brag as well. Cameron having three of Matthew's top seven.

[Lawrence Jackson]

The thing is, those other guys is definitely getting 20 touches. Yeah, we don't know that for sure.

[Jay Croucher]

With Trevion Henderson, indeed a guy who might get 20 touches this week, Matthew is Jalen Warren, who faces the great elixir in fantasy, the Cincinnati Bengals defense.

[Matthew Berry]

I mean, honestly, do I need to give analysis? Honestly, like you get to say, like, oh, who's the running back playing? Cincinnati. Good, I'm in. But fine, I hear you America. I hear you screaming at the television set. I hear you listening to the podcast saying, no, Matthew Barry. I'm begging you, I'm begging you, please give me some bad Cincinnati Bengals stats. I got you America as well. Bengals give up 185 scrimmage yards to opposing backfields this season. 185 scrimmage yards, Lawrence. They give up 33.5 fantasy points per game to opposing backfields. Yeah, it's crazy. When Jalen Warren played Cincinnati Week 7, he had 158 yards from scrimmage. He averaged 7.9 yards per touch. I'm not done. Cincinnati's given up at least 16.9 fantasy points to a running back in four of their past six games. Four of their past six, a running back's gotten at least 17. And so then now you've got Jalen Warren, who? Kenneth Gainwell. Isn't even a thought. Aaron Rodgers doesn't want to pass, doesn't need to. He's got Cincinnati. It's the gift that keeps on giving. Yes. The Bengals, they bone you. Unless you have a running back going.

[Jay Croucher]

Against them, in which case they anti bone you.

[Matthew Berry]

They're anti bone you. Yes.

[Jay Croucher]

Either way, inverted, unboned.

[Matthew Berry]

They unbone you.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah. All valid points Matthew, you know one of the best things about betting is that when you have a lot of money on an outcome, you get really familiar with the characters that you're aligned.

[Matthew Berry]

Sure, of course.

[Jay Croucher]

And you just kind of develop a close connection and understanding. And we had a lot of money on the Houston Texans last week.

[Matthew Berry]

Yes, we did.

[Jay Croucher]

Against the Jags and their run defense. And I was stunned at the end of the game. What I was cheering for is stop trying to feed Nico Collins, let's just feed Woody Marks. Let's feed this rushing offense that the.

[Matthew Berry]

Jags cannot stop getting, do whatever they.

[Jay Croucher]

Wanted on the ground. And now Kymani Vidal gets the same Jags offense defense that is not in a good place at all. And since they stopped forcing a lot of turnovers, they've been a very mediocre defense. The Chargers are three point favorites in this game ticking up as well. So I think they'll have game script. And Kymani Vidal is the clear number one in that backfield favorable matchup. So he's on the love list for me this week.

[Matthew Berry]

I like it.

[Jay Croucher]

Okay, let's jump to some others receiving votes headlined by Chase Brown, who's also in that matchup against the Steelers, which was an epic shootout when they played a few weeks ago.

[Matthew Berry]

He's in a matchup against the Steelers. He's in a matchup against producer Steven. For me, I think he does well here. Since Joe Flacco became the starter he's had. He's, he's the 11th best running back in fantasy football. Three straight games with over 100 yards from scrimmage playing 95% at snap. Last week he got 100% of the Bengals running back touches. Now Samaj P. Ryan dealing with that ankle sprain. He did not practice yesterday. He left the game early. The expectation here at the moment of taping is that P. Ryan does not play again this week. Or if he does, he'll be severely limited. So Chase Brown, he's my running back. 13. He should get a ton of work. How about Woody Marks, who you just mentioned played 78% of the snaps last week playing the Titans, who give up at least 16 fantasy points to a running back and six of the last seven. And finally, if you're desperate, how about Sean Tucker again? There has been a Bucky Irving sighting at practice, but it's still going to be Rashad White and Sean Tucker. Over the last two weeks, Tucker's had 44% of the Buccaneers running back rushes. He's gotten 50% of the team's goal to Go rushing attempts. They like them when they get in close as well. And so this Buffalo Bills defense, you can run on Buffalo, they give him the third most yards per carry to a putting running back. So I do think that, look, I have Tucker at 31, let's be real. I have Rashad White over him, but I do think he probably gets maybe 1012 touches in this game against the Bills with a shot at a touchdown.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah.

[Lawrence Jackson]

If you could get like 8 to 10 fantasy points out of him and you're start like that's what you should expect. Anything over that is like, yeah, like I got, I started him. I'm lucky that that's about it.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah. Also we think we saw Bucky Irving at practice. The photo was so far away. It may have been a Bucky Irving mannequin.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, could have been somebody in a Bucky Irving jersey. Could have been Lawrence.

[Jay Croucher]

Lawrence Jackson. All right, let's jump to the hate list headline by ago's been frustrating for fantasy managers all year long. That is Kenneth Walker, KW3 who gets a very tough matchup against the Rams.

[Matthew Berry]

Matthew, if I said to America and said I want you to start every top 40 running back this week, you still would not start Ken walker. Since week five he's running back 41 in fantasy points per game. He's had single digit fantasy points in every game during that stretch. He's averaging, he's averaging about 1.3 target per game. So he's not involved in the passing game. And I don't like this matchup against the Rams. LA allows the fewest fantasy points per game to running backs, the fifth fewest rushing yards. So Ken Walker who isn't involved in the passing game doesn't get a ton of touchdown work because they seem to like Charbonnet when they get in close. He's in a committee on a pass first team thanks to Sam Darnold and JSN again I'm at running back 27 this week. We talked about him on the Wednesday show, I guess yesterday actually you know we talked about. We closed it out. We said we were going to close it out on Ken Walker. So he also makes the hate list.

[Jay Croucher]

Yep. No, I think that makes a lot of sense. And as much as like the Seahawks, their pass rate over expectation isn't super high but this is like this is an explosive passing team at the moment. Question from Ved KW3 or Aaron Jones this week?

[Matthew Berry]

I think it's Aaron Jones.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Oh, sorry Jones.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, I'm not.

[Lawrence Jackson]

I'm with you right there, Matthew. Aaron Jones and he's been the. He's been the Vikings running back that you would want since he's come back. Jordan Mason more touchdown dependent. Aaron Jones more so could get you those reception points.

[Jay Croucher]

Yep. Favorable matchup against the Bears. Run defense, Vikings three point favourites in that one. My addition to the hate list, your running backs. The Washington Commanders running backs. You see a bit of health concerns around Chris Rodriguez, but regardless of who's getting the carries, the Miami Dolphins. This is one of the strangest little subplots in the NFL season. The Dolphins are like the worst rush defense in the league and then they started playing Bijan Robinson, Derrick Henry, James Cook Quinteau Judkins over those four weeks, the number one rush defense in the NFL. So I don't understand it but I think we just have to accept it that none of those teams could get anything going on the ground.

[Lawrence Jackson]

By the way, they got rid of their best defensive end too. And Jalen Phillips, he's over there at the Eagles now. So there he goes, right?

[Jay Croucher]

Yep. Very peculiar. But I don't want. Yeah, no, part of those Washington running backs were in the matchup in Madrid. And also just the uncertainty around usage.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, a lot of people think that it's, you know, Chris Greer, by firing Chris Greer that improved their own defense.

[Jay Croucher]

Okay.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, that's something to think about. Their general manager.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, I don't know what I mean. Kenneth Grant got less bad. They brought in some, I mean guys coming off injuries there getting healthier. Very strange. But it has to be taken at face value. All right, Breece hall. Tonight Lawrence gets a very difficult matchup against the Pats elite rush defense.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Yeah, shout out to Breeze hall because he really been like a one man wrecking crew on the jets offense. In each of his last two games he has 133 and 83 yards rushing. But now going against this top ranked New England run defense, they allow the fourth fewest points in fantasy to running backs. However, they have allowed the most receptions to running backs this season. So if he's to get anything, that'll probably be his avenue. No running back has ran for more than 53 yards versus this Patriots defense. And some of those guys on that list, Devon Hn, James Cook, Quinshawn Juckins, Bijon Robinson. So with that anemic offense, they can't throw, they can't breathe, they can't do nothing. They could run, but I don't know about that today. Tonight rather for Breece Hall.

[Jay Croucher]

Question from Michael Woody Marks or Breece hall. This weekend. Can't believe him.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Even though still would be Breece Hall.

[Matthew Berry]

I agree with that. I mean I have them really close to each other. I have Breece hall just barely above Woody Marks. But I do think because no Garrett Wilson for the game tonight, I do think Breece hall might literally be their passing attack, might be their entire offense, honestly. Maybe you'll see some Mason Taylor. We still don't know who the quarterback is going to be. I suspect it'll be Justin. But yes, Aaron Glenn playing tricks with us.

[Jay Croucher]

Yes, playing tricky. Aaron Glenn playing checkers while everyone else is playing chess. All right, let's jump to love hate pass catches. Take a look. Matthew, at your ranks 11 through 20 headlined by Jalen Waddle coming off a great game against the Bills and has been resurgent ever since Tyreek Hill went down.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, he's. He's averaging 16 fantasy points per game since Tyreek Hill went down. At least 80 receiving yards in every game since then but one. And then you get to my commanders and my commanders are just so brutal on defense. They're beat up. Dan Quinn's going to take over the play calling. I don't know that it's going to really matter. The commander is a good of at least 20 fantasy points to an opposing wide receiver in four straight games. So if you're telling me somebody on the Dolphins is getting 20 fantasy points from the wide receiver position, I think it stands to reason Jalen Waddle will be that guy. He's my wide receiver. 11 Once you for the week as.

[Jay Croucher]

We just saw the commander's past defense line, it's a comedy sketch at the moment. I thought the defining moment was I can't remember who the Seahawk was who caught the touchdowns. It might have been Elijah Arroyo. And at the same time they cut the JSN screaming down the other side. Why aren't I getting the ball?

[Matthew Berry]

He's like, all right. And you have two guys streaking down.

[Jay Croucher]

Each sideline wide open.

[Matthew Berry]

It was unbelievable. And I just and I, I was so annoyed that they didn't throw it to JSN because I had the anytime touchdown is one of my part of my parlay.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, unbelievable.

[Matthew Berry]

But Darnold was probably like, ah, I throw a lot to him. Let me give this guy Sam Darnold.

[Jay Croucher]

Was just like loja bricks start two this week. Roma dunesday jalen waddle lad McConkey, Nico Collins.

[Matthew Berry]

I think it's still I get the I don't think he screwed up. I like all four but I'm going to Go with, I'm going to go with. We just talked about waddle and I'm going to say Nico Collins.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Just Nico.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Lawrence Jackson]

For me, Nico had over 100 last game. Yeah, he got his hundred yards.

[Matthew Berry]

You know, as good as as lad McConkey is, you know, there's, you've got gads in and there's just a lot of mouths to feed and you can see it's an art. Again, you have to nitpick here. I like all four of those guys, but if you ask me to pick two, I pick the two.

[Jay Croucher]

The other thing too is like Davis Mills, he's, he's not good, but he's bad in like a Nick Mullins type of bad where you can still accumulate passing yards as opposed to a Dylan Gabriel type of bad where there's just like nothing, nothing happens. All right, let's. Speaking of Dylan Gabriel, so about his team faces Zay Flowers and the Browns. As good as their defense is, they have struggled a bit against wide receivers.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Yeah, they're the second best passing defense. However, they're middle of the pack when it comes to allowing points to receivers in fantasy. And with Zay Flowers, man, you know what you're going to get in six of nine games. His receiving yardage is in the 60s or the 70s. So when you play, when you have Zay Flowers in your lineup, that's what you're going to get. In Week 2 versus them, he caught seven of 11 targets for 79 yards. And Cleveland is one of 12 teams to allow to have allowed double digit touchdowns to receivers. So he don't get a lot of touchdowns. Zay Flowers, he only got one this season, but he has a better chance to do it this weekend. I think you're ranking to him this week. Matthew at 18 is a nice spot for him.

[Jay Croucher]

You're welcome. Yeah, well done, Matthew. It's a good job by you, Matthew. Great, great rankings. Matthew. There's been a lot of chat about AJ Brown, one of angst. This is a comic, ongoing little saga there.

[Matthew Berry]

It feels like, by the way, it feels like it's been going on for like two years. It's exhausting. And the other thing about it is not only is it exhausting, but like it doesn't sort of matter. They keep winning. I get that the Monday Night Football game was ugly. It was brutal. In the world of fantasy, we're like, oh, and I'm sure ESPN wasn't thrilled with it either. But at the end of the day they won 10, seven. It wasn't pretty, but whatever they won. The Eagles keep winning. I know it's ugly and it's blah, blah, blah, but they. They keep winning. Lawrence. So it's.

[Lawrence Jackson]

What was that other. It was the Raiders and the Broncos. Right. That was also 10 to 7 for some reason.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, that was. The Thursday night came.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Yeah, both games was 10 to 7. But I just feel like the packers and Eagles one was just like, better.

[Jay Croucher]

Oh, yeah. I mean, those two great defenses, like.

[Lawrence Jackson]

It wasn't balls being thrown in the dirt by quarterbacks. You know what I mean?

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, no, it was two great defenses playing really well, and the other one was two really bad quarterbacks playing really poorly.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, that's right.

[Jay Croucher]

I'm with you there. But this Eagles team, to your point about them feeling like, you know, I think they've won 22 of their past 25.

[Matthew Berry]

And you think that.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, exactly. But A.J. brown has been much discussed, but it's overshadowed a bit the fact that Devontae Smith has clearly surpassed him as the number one wide receiver in this offense.

[Matthew Berry]

We talked about that the other day as well, where I said, you know, I would have Devontae Smith ranked out of A.J. brown this week. And what do you know? I do. Since week seven, he's got a 41% target share. You see it there on your screen. Only Jackson, Smith and Jigba has gotten more targets over the last. Since week seven, you know, at least a larger target share, I should say. And wide receivers that have seen at least 25% target share against the Lions so far this year, averaging over 20 fantasy points per game. So Devonta Smith is my wide receiver. 13. He's ranked ahead of A.J. brown. He's been pretty consistent. The stat we gave out yesterday is that there have been eight games where they played together this year. And Devontae Smith has outscored A.J. brown in six of them. Six of eight.

[Jay Croucher]

Yep. Devontae is the guy you want in that backfield.

[Matthew Berry]

Slim Reaper.

[Jay Croucher]

It's been bad guys for DK Metcalf. It's not been the season that everyone wanted. There was an okay start and he housed that long touchdown catch and run against the Vikings. Ever since then, it's been rough. But if there is anything that can cure DK Metcalfe, it is the Bengals defense. Understand the bad on the ground, also bad in the air. They're bad in every way you want them to be bad. And he was only 3 for 50 against the Bengals in the first matchup. And Rodgers threw touchdowns to every tight end on the roster. Arthur Smith reached nirvana on Live television. But I think that DK Metcalf, if there is ever a game where he can get fixed, it is this one against the Bengals.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Yeah. And I think it'll come, like, it probably won't be on high volume. That's just not how he does it. Four or five catches. 110. 125 yards. And we know the Bengals are susceptible to that. Just ask Chase Loveland.

[Matthew Berry]

Colston, you mean.

[Lawrence Jackson]

What'd I say?

[Jay Croucher]

Chase.

[Matthew Berry]

Chase Colston.

[Jay Croucher]

Loveland. Yeah. Chase is a member of the Bengals. I can say what's going on.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Yeah, I'm thinking Jamar Chase Brown, coasting Loveland, rookie out of Michigan. Yes.

[Matthew Berry]

Look, I do Chase Love and chasing Love Land. It would be fun. I could see that. Loveland would be a fun amusement park.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Oh, no.

[Jay Croucher]

You sound fit for Peacock.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Jay Croucher]

Anyway, something that is fit for Peacock.

[Matthew Berry]

Saying Peacock isn't about love. We have Love Island.

[Jay Croucher]

Oh, we do have Love Island. Yeah. Spoken for already.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Jay Croucher]

Love Land to compete with Love Island. A guy who's been on a Love Island.

[Matthew Berry]

Do you ever think that they might. Because there's. It's so successful Love Island. So, so successful. And, you know, they've tried different spin offs. Do you think they would ever do Peacock Island?

[Jay Croucher]

I don't think so. Yeah, that'd be strange.

[Matthew Berry]

I just. I'm just curious.

[Jay Croucher]

Like, to be honest, Love island kind of overshadows fancy football happy hour. I'm not happy about it.

[Matthew Berry]

Well, you want to talk about where our budget goes, you know? Yeah, it's going to Love Island.

[Jay Croucher]

Love Island.

[Matthew Berry]

But I'm just saying Peacock Island. And you could shorten that as well, too. As well. Like, if that's too much of a mouthful. Yeah, Island. Sure. There you go. Yeah, there's something to think about just a little bit. Just a little suggestion for the suggestion box there in Kitchen Media for the Peacock executives.

[Jay Croucher]

Okay.

[Matthew Berry]

Just something to think about. Tell me you wouldn't watch that. Of course you would.

[Jay Croucher]

I wouldn't watch it. I generally wouldn't watch it. I had no interest whatsoever in Peacock island, abbreviated or otherwise. A guy who's been on tight end one island recently, Matthew, is Dalton Schultz against the Tennessee Titans. Dalton Schultz is. He's kind of the version of Hunter Henry that we saw earlier in the season. He's become Dalton Schultz of late.

[Matthew Berry]

It's unbelievable. Since week four, he's got one game, literally one game with below a 19% target share. Since week seven, he's the sixth best tight end in fantasy football. He's had at least 13 points and three of the last four. The ultimate. He can't keep getting away with this kind of player. But he is and you see it right there on your screen. He's a top 10 play for me this week at Tennessee.

[Jay Croucher]

Yep, very favorable matchup against Titans team that can't really do anything well at the moment or this year. Let's get to all those receiving votes. Talked about a lot of players in the Bengals Steelers matchup. Matthew, what's one more? T. Higgins.

[Matthew Berry]

What is one more? Three of the four games that he's played with Joe Flacco. Comeback player of the year Joe Flacco, of course he's gotten at least eight targets. He's got four touchdowns in the last three games. And oh by the way, for all the bats Bengals stats and I have a lot of them. Here's one on Pittsburgh. They allow the most yards per game to perimeter wide receivers. T. Higgins plays on the perimeter. Look at that. How about them apples? Ipso facto they're therefore. How about Khalil Shakir? Khalil Shakir against the Tampa Buccaneers. By the way, Kincaid likely out in games in which Shakira gets at least a 20% target share. He averages over 14 fantasy points per game. The Human Dortch. Greg Dortch getting more of a lift here. No, Marvin Harrison for the Cardinals. We like Michael Wilson as well, but Niners give the third most yards per game to the slot where the human Dortch runs most of his routes. Kind of like Kyle Pitt of your Atlanta Falcons here. Lawrence since week seven. 25% target share. Panthers allow the fifth most yards per game to opposing tight ends. And finally, Cade Otten who we've talked about on the show quite a bit since week five. He's the 10th best tight end in fantasy football. He's had double digit fantasy points in every game during that stretch except for one and last week a 28% target share. He's averaging over seven targets per game. You know, especially again, no Mike Evans, no Chris Godwin. It just, it really seems like it's like it's Tez Johnson, it's a mecca. Buca and Kate Ottner kind of the three main targets for a fairly pass heavy offense in Tampa Bay. Sterling Shepherd's just not doing anything these days.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, it's. It's such a question from Here comes Scatter.

[Matthew Berry]

Boo.

[Jay Croucher]

Boo. That's why I do split screen. Okay, this is going to be a question. Love island on 1/2.ffh on the other. Unfortunately, fantasy life doesn't have a Discount code for Love Island.

[Matthew Berry]

This is true.

[Lawrence Jackson]

We don't.

[Matthew Berry]

Although I will say this. If you, if you subscribe to rotopass.com and you get, you'll get access to fantasy life. You get access to a bunch of other great premium sites and you get a six month subscription to Peacock that, that lasts until the end of this year. But yeah, we're, we're running a promo now where you know, if you want, you get a free six months of Peacock Premium.

[Jay Croucher]

Okay, there you go.

[Matthew Berry]

So there you go.

[Jay Croucher]

Scatter. Boo. Boo. Yeah. This afternoon. It's so funny. Kyle Pitts is. He's lived so many lives this NFL, right. Like a generational prospect, promising rookie year but no touchdowns in America. Complete bust. Now he's settled into being like mid career Austin Hooper, man.

[Lawrence Jackson]

I was just about to say that because when you as you're talking I'm thinking, man, Austin Hooper was the tight end when the Falcons went to the Super Bowl. He, he was all right.

[Matthew Berry]

He was just like he was the number that year. He was the number one titan in fantasy. Austin Hooper had one amazing year in fantasy football.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Wasn't that crazy. And then beside, besides that, he was he. And that's where.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, that's where Kyle Pitt, he's going to have a lengthy career of sorts.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Be more.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, please, let's jump to the hate list and other people that we hope can be more. Xavier Worthy has difficult increased competition on his own team and difficult competition on the other side of the ball in the Denver defense.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, we talked about this yesterday as well where I said I'm closing it out on Xavier Worthy since rasheed rice returned seven, just eight fantasy points per game. Under four receptions, under 40 receiving yards game. And Denver allows the second lowest completion rate on deep passes which is so much a big part of Xavier Worthy's game. If you're starting Xavier Worthy, that's what you're hoping for. You're hoping for a long, you know, a long touchdown pass. You know like a 70 yard touchdown that sort of makes your day on that one play. But Denver is so good against that and he just, he's just not playing or getting enough targets with Rasheed Rice back. And obviously Kelsey's always going to get his.

[Jay Croucher]

Yep, fascinating guy. I'm very excited for this one.

[Matthew Berry]

I think they kill him. I've been on record as saying I think that. I think the Chiefs win. I think they cover, they cover the three and a half.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah. We look at Xavier Worthy's game log since week seven. Not a lot, not A lot there. They're still giving him some. Some jet sweeps and rushing work, but for the most, he's still getting targets, but it just hasn't been the explosive deep stuff. And Rasheed Rice takes so much of the intermediate route tree that Worthy was getting for a time. All right, Jameson Williams is my name for the.

[Matthew Berry]

How can you hate Jameson Williams? Yeah, come on.

[Jay Croucher]

Well, he was lovable last week against your Commanders, but Lauren Jackson can go 6 for 90 in a touchdown against the Commander's secondary. At this point, it is an interesting wrinkle with Dan Campbell calling the plays.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Jay Croucher]

And whether that increases the variance for this passing game, which all the chat coming on the team is like, yeah, this is gonna be like a vertical passing attack. Jameson Williams is gonna be. Have an increased role. Just hasn't really manifested. Matt Campbell gets back to some of that, but Eagles defense is a different animal to the Commanders.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah. All I was going to say is it's so interesting. So it's not only that, like, oh, speculation or anything like that. Like, when NBC, we had the hall of Fame game, the hall of Fame preseason game, the first game of the season, and it was Chargers, Lions. And so I'm on the field prior to the game, me and Dev McCourty walking around talking to players. That's sort of my shtick, is that I just kind of like, Devin's my guy. And so, like, Devin and I will walk around Devin.

[Jay Croucher]

Well, to make other football.

[Matthew Berry]

That's exactly right. Because, I mean, Devin has played recently, so he knows all these guys. Everyone. Yeah, yeah, I know you guys know this, but just if you ever meet Dev McCourty might be the nicest person in the universe.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Indeed.

[Matthew Berry]

Him. Him or Jason Garrett. Honestly, the two of them. But so everyone loves Devin. And so I just walk. I just walk next to him. And then everyone comes up, Devin, he's like, oh, this is Matthew Barry or whatever. And so I just kind of, you know, I ride Devin's coattails, you know, and. And. And one of the people that I met through that system was Jared Goff, who, you know, and Jared, I think I told this story before, but Jared Goff says to me, you know, he's like, devin was asking Jared about the new system, John Morton and the new offense coordinator. And Jared was like, yeah, you know, we, you know, we're throwing in some new wrinkles. It's a lot of the same stuff, but we've got some new wrinkles that we're excited about. And then Jared Goff just literally turns to me and goes, don't worry, Jameer Gibbs is still going to score plenty of points with a smile. So it's like he knew who I was or what I did. Right. And so I said, all right, so you know what I do? Give me a sleeper. And Jared Goff says, James Williams, he's like, he's having a great camp. Like, he's listening.

[Jay Croucher]

Derek replied to you?

[Matthew Berry]

Well, apparently. But my point is, but my point is, is that like it wasn't just sort of like, hey, we think he's going to break out, like literally the quarterback in an off the. Not off the record, I guess, because I just told it on air. But like, but like, you know what I mean? But like in a, you know, not in a press conference sort of way. Just, you know, a couple of guys BSing on the field prior to a preseason game. He was very bullish on Jameson Williams.

[Jay Croucher]

So I mean, we talk about this all the time, but if not for the knee, he would have been, I think, the number one wide receiver in a draft class that had Rick London and Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave.

[Matthew Berry]

Correct.

[Jay Croucher]

Johan Dotson as well. But so, yeah, there is the potential, there's the upside there for Jameson Williams. I just think that with what we've seen on the field so far and the fact that I think this Eagles defense, Lawrence might be kind of fixed, I think Jalen Phillips is a real game changer.

[Lawrence Jackson]

He helped them a great deal against the Green Bay Packers. And when you get sort of when you start getting the pass rush, what do you know, the defensive backs start to get a little better. So that's kind of how all that works. So Eagles defense, not back to that elite status yet, but definitely on the rise.

[Jay Croucher]

Yep. So Jameson Williams, I mean, a lot of people are going to have to start him in their flex if you drafted him, you don't have better alternatives, but for the most part, I wouldn't expect the same type of performance as last week from jmo. All right, let's finish up with staying in that game. Lawrence.

[Matthew Berry]

A.J.

[Jay Croucher]

Brown. Yeah, angst.com, as I call him. He is on the hate list for you. And I think the reason is pretty self explanatory.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Yeah, well, the best thing about this is I don't even have to tell you why he's telling us himself. So shout out to A.J. brown. You see the quote here? If you got me in fantasy, get rid of me. Like, I couldn't appreciate that more as a fantasy manager. Like, he's lit. He said, don't hope for Nothing like, just get rid of me. So. So, you know, we appreciate him for that. And he's not apologizing to anyone for that.

[Matthew Berry]

No. I will say this. Didn't he. I feel like A.J. brown said something very similar to that, like, two years ago, and then. Huh? Oh, it was Miles Sanders. That's what it was. It was Miles Sanders who said that to NBC Philadelphia, don't draft me in fantasy. And then he wanted to have, like, a monster year.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah. Anyway, we heard from AJ Brown about not apologizing for the comments that he made on this infamous stream.

[Lawrence Jackson]

You know, so me making light of.

[Jay Croucher]

My situation on Twitch with my friend, you know.

[Lawrence Jackson]

That'S something I'm not apologizing for, you know, because like I said, if you got eyes, you can see that. And so, shoot, that's me trying to.

[Jay Croucher]

Like, lab through my situation, you know, in that moment where I'm just talking.

[Lawrence Jackson]

To my friend, having fun with my friend. I'm not apologizing for that, like. Like I said, because if you have eyes, you can see that. And so, like, it's not that I was throwing anybody on the bus. I'm literally trying to laugh through this. This is tough, like, but I'm trying to make fun of the situation and.

[Matthew Berry]

To try to get through it. That's what I'm gonna do. When I. Next time I have a bad call, I'm just gonna try to make fun of it, laugh at the situation.

[Jay Croucher]

Very strange.

[Lawrence Jackson]

I tell you what, if this team was 2 and 8 and not 8 and 2, you know, we'd be talking about something here. But I don't even think it's that as. Is that complicated is what. So, look, I think it's just as simple as this. If you took A.J. brown and fantasy, you just simply took the wrong Eagles receiver this year. Like the Eagles offense, not the most innovative offense out there. I think we all know that. They just use their talent and they go win the games, right? But Devontae Smith, wide receiver, 13 this year, in fantasy, the whole year. He's a top seven receiver since week six. Like, let's give him his props. Dallas Goddard is still a top five tight end in fantasy, so the guys are getting the points. It's just not A.J. brown, who's wide receiver, 36, and Devonte Adams. I'm sorry, Devontae Smith. Don't remember. I'm sorry, do remember. He's a top 10 pick too.

[Jay Croucher]

Yep. Adele v. AJ Brown. Squeaky wheel gets the grease game incoming. I guess it's like this has been 10 weeks now.

[Matthew Berry]

It has been. I will tell you this, I said. And I ended up losing this bet. They were in the playoffs. Remember reading the book on the sideline game?

[Lawrence Jackson]

Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

So the next game after that was the Rams game, the Eagles Rams game in the snow. That was, I think the divisional round. And that was, that was a game that was on NBC. And so like my best bet was like A.J. brown to catch a pass in the first quarter to get 10 yards receiving. And I think actually specifically it was like, you know, over nine and a half receiving yards. First quarter. I'm like, they're absolutely targeting him. They're like, oh, so much was made about the book and blah, blah. And I think I had a larger, A larger. I took the over on his receiving yards in the parlay. Neither of them hit like he caught. He. He did. In fairness to me, they gave him one pass that had he caught it, it hit him in the, in the numbers and he just dropped it. It was like 10 yards deep. And so had he caught the one pass that would have cashed. So he did drop it. But like he didn't do much in that game against the Rams, like again. And that was after a week of everyone, like he's on the sideline reading a book and you know, like, so no, I disagree with the comment that he might have a big game, but he also might be three more until he does.

[Lawrence Jackson]

It used to be like that, like probably two years ago, whenever he would say something, then he would go out and have 125 yards. But he been kind of doing this like every three weeks now.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah.

[Lawrence Jackson]

And it's not happening.

[Matthew Berry]

I will tell you, like, we're doing that game. That's our game, Detroit at Philadelphia this Sunday. The three of us, fantasy football pregame will be live from the link On Sunday morning, 11am Eastern, all the way until kickoff, answering all your questions. FFPregame will be on YouTube and Peacock. And then that night, Football night in America will be live from the link and I'll be on the sideline. I will have to do a parlay. I will have to do a best bet as part of my role on Football night in America. I am not touching the Eagles. I might take some unders. But I'm just telling you right now, like, I just, I don't have a feel for this offense at all other than maybe I might take an under. But I just, it. I like Devontae Smith. Yeah, some Goddard, some Devontae Smith. But like Saquon's been up and down. Hertz has been up and down like.

[Jay Croucher]

The, almost the the most frustrating thing with A.J. brown is that there's clearly a very good player in there somewhere and it does manifest like week to week, like the game against the Vikings, like the isis, it was the big catch at the end. He's still clearly got the talent. It's just that he just completely disappears.

[Lawrence Jackson]

They just don't need him to be that for them to win games. It's really just that simple. And if you know, like that Vikings game, he was called upon, he made the play because he's still that guy.

[Jay Croucher]

Yep, very confusing. All right, we're going to hit our first break. When we come back, Love hate continues with the quarterbacks.

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[Jay Croucher]

You know, it's any given week in this league just coming off a win and we had great players, so we got a tough task and they're coming here with, you know, wanting to beat in division. We're wearing, you know, whatever jerseys and they're going to, you know, have something to play for and they still do. So they're going to be a tough challenge. And I think it's like I said, any given week. So you got to prepare on a short week and kind of win that battle. Drake May the MVP favorite alongside Matthew Stafford 2001 before the season, now in the 31 range. And he's got a very favorable matchup. Matthew against the New York jets as he comes in as your QB3 ahead of Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, he's been nothing short of fantastic. It's worth noting that in the last two games, the jets have given him over 20 fantasy points to Joe Flacco and Dylan Gabriel. And so now here comes red hot Drake May, the betting favorite for MVP as well. In games in which the Patriots have scored 25 points, May is averaging 24 fantasy points. When the Patriots score at least 25, May gets at least 24. And the Patriots are tied for the highest implied team total in week 11. It's basically DraftKings is saying around 28 is what they expect the Patriots to do here. So I need Drake May to score a ton of points in my uphill battle against producer Steven as I try to. He's my quarterback. So just if you have something you want to root for tonight, root for Drake May to have like six touchdowns.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, it seems implausible Dylan Gabriel was able to compile that many fantasy points against any collection of sentient human beings in any walk of life, really. But no, it should be a big game for Drake May. His kind of. He already kind of had his, his initial big moment on the national stage against the Bills on Sunday football. But this is really, I think this is going to be the kind of coronation type of night where he does whatever he wants against the Jets.

[Matthew Berry]

I, I sure hope so, by the way. And also just, just for America's sake, because after Broncos Raiders last week, a nation is scarred. Yes. We need something to cleanse the palate.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Even. Even though the jets are Jets.

[Jay Croucher]

I know.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Even though the jets are a really bad football team in the NFL right now. If Drake May goes out there on that prime time and puts up like five touchdowns, that's, I think that's as far as the Betting eyes go that's really going to put him out there with this mvp. I liken it similar to Lamar's first MVP when they went to LA and they weren't that great of a team and he put up five touchdowns on them and then it was like over. If Drake may does that tonight man. See you later.

[Matthew Berry]

If you're Connor Rogers, what are you doing right now in the sense of.

[Jay Croucher]

Like I'd be drinking.

[Matthew Berry]

Right? That's my point. Like how do you prepare for a game like this where like disastrous and like do you like are you just like I'm just gonna get drunk, I gotta get, I gotta go on to SNY and I gotta talk about this for like you know, a couple hours tonight before and after, like are you just getting loaded or are you like do you still, are you still optimistic?

[Lawrence Jackson]

I already know what they're gonna say on that show. They say it every week. They had to say, to say well.

[Matthew Berry]

Do you think he just recycled say to some P.A. give me my notes from week six. That was good.

[Jay Croucher]

I will say there is kind of a weight lifted because like the season has descended into fast so you can just kind of have some, some fun with it. So yeah. Tune into our friends this NY to see Conor Rodgers thoughts staying in the AFC East.

[Matthew Berry]

Tune in, tune in for his thoughts. Stay for Todd Zeal. That's what you want.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, maybe, maybe if you stick around long enough on sny, Todd Zeal will give you some thoughts about the Mets bullpen pickups.

[Matthew Berry]

Just think they should use Todd. He's Emmy award winning, a two time Emmy award winner. I just feel like Todd Zeal should be on the Jackson Vets broadcast tonight.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, stay in the AFC East. The sneaky kind of feel good is aggressive for the Dolphins but they have picked it up under Mike McDaniel. They're playing hard for him and Tua Tagovailoa who's not had a good year but has had some good moments recently including against the Bills and now he gets the most favorable matchup of all matchups against his commanders.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Yeah, with Tua it's like even when he plays good like as far as regular football goes it still doesn't mean anything in fantasy like last week versus the Bills he played good, that's why they won. Right? But he was quarterback 18 on the week. But this week right here versus Matthew Berry's Washington Commanders who he has Jalen Waddle on the love list. So I'm gonna put two in there because that's the guy throwing on the Passes. Washington allows the second most fantasy points per game to quarterbacks. Quarterbacks have thrown for at least 264 yards, three touchdowns, zero interceptions in four straight games against these Washington commanders and have given up an average of 38 and a half. Damn. 38 and a half points per game in that span. Matthew, if two is going to get back to those good fantasy days of a couple years ago, this is definitely the time to do it.

[Matthew Berry]

Years from now we will notice that. You know, there are a lot of kids in Madrid that grew up thinking Tua Tonga Bailoa was the greatest quarterback of all time, was the Joe Montana of his era.

[Jay Croucher]

We got Spanish kids wearing tour jersey, German kids wearing Tyler Algier jersey when.

[Lawrence Jackson]

They'Re making their all time teams. For over there, the quarterbacks are going to be Tua and the two running backs are going to be Jonathan Taylor and Tyler Algiers. That's what they saw. Scored a touchdown.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, that's right. A lot of kids wearing Tyler Algier jerseys to school overseas. Yeah.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

To a nation in Madrid.

[Jay Croucher]

Maybe some kids in Jacksonville can buy some Justin Herbert jerseys because it might be better alternatives to their quarterback at the moment. But very favorable matchup for Herbie. Fully loaded Matthew against the Jags since we.

[Matthew Berry]

Your Jaguars, Jay. Yeah, of course, you. You and Producer Stevens. Yeah, you and Producer Stevens. Jaguar. Since Week 5, literally no team in the NFL has given more fantasy points to opposing quarterbacks than the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's been, it's been tough for the past five quarterbacks to face. Jacksonville scored at least 26 fantasy points and you're like, well, they must have faced some real heavy hitters.

[Jay Croucher]

Davis Mills, Geno Smith.

[Matthew Berry]

Those are two of the people that scored at least 26 fantasies. The Jaguars, Davis Mills and Geno Smith. Anyway, so I have Justin Herbert as a top six quarterback. Seems like he got through the injury. We expect Gadson back as well. Full compliments of starters for Justin Herbert. You know, rocket ship emoji.

[Jay Croucher]

Yes. Okay. Regardless of who the quarterback is for Houston, I think it's probably going to be Davis Mills. That's what the market is reflecting at the moment. But if it's Davis Mills or if CJ Stroud does make a faster than expected recovery, I think they have a very favorable matchup against a Jag secondary that has had no answers for everyone. The Jags and the Commanders give up the most explosive pass plays in the league. And Davis Mills, you know, Tennessee, I mean, not, sorry, Tennessee.

[Matthew Berry]

The Titans.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, the Jags badness is still lingering on the mind But Davis Mills showed that he'd get the ball to Nico Collins, which is really the main thing in this passing offense. So two quarterback league. I think that Davis Mill is not the most appetizing option in the world, but I think there are probably worse options. Let's look at others. Receiving votes and my arch nemesis Matthew Headlines at Joe Flacco.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, look. In four starts with the Cincinnati Bengals, he's averaging 25 fantasy points per game. He's had multiple touchdown passes at every game. Quarterbacks facing the Steelers this year averaging 290 passing yards. And then Marcus Mariota against the world beater to a Tunga Bialoa. He's had 16 fantasy points or more and three of his four starts. By the way, the Dolphins, only one team in the NFL gives up more rushing touchdowns to opposing quarterbacks than the Dolphins. So there's a good chance Mariota gets in for one as well. You see it right there on your screen. It's my QB12 this week. If you need a streamer, you could do worse than Marcus Mariota.

[Jay Croucher]

Okay, let's jump to the hate list. Headlined by Bo Nicks. Keeps getting away with it. Keeps winning games to be fair to Bo Nix. And he has come through in the clutch in some key moments, but gets a difficult matchup against the Spags. Led Casey defense in a game that the Chiefs have to have.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, you want some bad Bonick stats? I got bad Bonick stats for you. Get this. Since week six, Bo Nix is 30th, which is not good. 30th in yards per pass attempt. Here's the quarterbacks. He's ahead of J.J. mcCarthy, Davis Mills, Justin Fields, Dylan Gabriel. That's a list. That's the only quarterbacks he's ahead of. And yards for pass attempt. You know, anyway. And this, you mentioned the matchup with the Chiefs. Two weeks to prepare for this game. That is the Chiefs season. Andy Reid off of a bye. Steve Spagnolo off of a bye. Since week two, the only quarterback to throw multiple touchdown passes more than one against the Chiefs was Jared Goff. That is all the way back in week two. No thank you on Bo Nix. He's my QB. 18 for the week.

[Jay Croucher]

Okay. Lawrence, Trevor Lawrence. The lesser Lawrence. At least through Jackson.

[Lawrence Jackson]

This is interesting.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Jay Croucher]

He gets a matchup against the Chargers defense that just made Aaron Rodgers look 60 years old.

[Lawrence Jackson]

Exactly. And they allow the third fewest fantasy points per game. Two quarterbacks. Speaking of Aaron Rodgers, he was quarterback 22 versus the Chargers. The two previous quarterbacks before that that the Chargers face was quarterback 26 and quarterback 21. So Trevor Lawrence himself, he's got two touchdown passes, two interceptions in his last three games. Now he could get something with his legs, but I don't know that'll be enough. Versus Chargers defense. I think they starting to turn up too. Like we talked about, that Eagles defense, that Chargers defense starting to do the same.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Jay Croucher]

Khalil Mack back is a huge boon for that.

[Matthew Berry]

Jesse Minter really getting, putting his resume together only to be turned down for the Giants to get Mike McCarthy.

[Jay Croucher]

Mike McCarthy or Antonio Pierce. Yeah, yeah, that'll be great. Okay.

[Matthew Berry]

By the way, controversial take. They'd be better off with Antonio pierce than Mike McCarthy.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, I think that's okay. Reasonable take. I mean they both.

[Matthew Berry]

He's a. Antonio Pierce is a. Is a New York legend. Well, he's a. He's a culture changer.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, just kind of pun from the opposing side.

[Matthew Berry]

No, of course not. He's not a strategy guy but you know, like. But honestly if he gets a good coordinator, like he. Antonio Pierce in the right situation would be like a Dan Campbell type. You know what I mean? Like that's more about.

[Lawrence Jackson]

More like a win start winners and he get on a roll.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, just more. More team. More about CEO than really necessarily the X's and O's kind of thing, you know and. Yep.

[Jay Croucher]

Potentially.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Jay Croucher]

Hopefully it's not Mike McCarthy.

[Matthew Berry]

I work with Antonio Pierce for a year at ESPN. He's awesome. Like if you meet him, he is. He is an awesome human beings.

[Jay Croucher]

Hyper, charismatic.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Jay Croucher]

Another guy that people like, Jared Goff. But he's on the hate list for me this week against the Eagles. Very difficult defense. Spoke about this, talking about Jameson Williams. I think this Eagles defense is back to being the top three four unit that it was last year. Having Nolan Smith and Jalen Phillips off the edge makes everything easier for that secondary. And I think that this Eagles theme is. Is going to have the same recipe that it did last year if they're going to make a run to the playoffs. It was the defense that won them that Super Bowl. Much more than the offense. All right, we're going to hit our last break. When we come back, our best bets for Jets Patriots blockbuster of Thursday night Football.

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[Lawrence Jackson]

You know how they're going to try to keep up when they get down by those two touchdowns? Like you said, they're going to throw it and they're not going to throw it down the field because they ain't that good at that right now. But they going to throw it to Breece Hall. So I'm taking him to get 3 receptions at +101 like you said, even though he hasn't done this since week five. They're going to be down by a few touchdowns and Breece hall is the pass game right now for them. No Garrett Wilson in there. You got Mason Taylor out there. So. So give me Breece Hod three receptions.

[Jay Croucher]

Okay. What do you got Matthew?

[Matthew Berry]

I like that Mack Hollins, one of my favorites MacDonald shoes. The Mackler Mack Hollins over 37 and a half receiving yards. Look season highs in route participation in target share. Last week had a 34% target share. Again, no Kayshawn booty against this Jet secondary that has to be kind struggled for the season. Right. I mean as well. And so they'll take a couple of deep shots. Shots to Matt Collins. We just talked about earlier in the show that how much we like Drake May. So give me Matt Collins over 37 and a half receiving yards tonight.

[Jay Croucher]

Yep. Drake may have shown that he's very happy to to spread the ball around. Yeah. Let's take a look at your top players, Matthew.

[Matthew Berry]

They like to throw it deep and like he's going to be basically, you know every once in a while like Diggs or Douglas will get deep but that's going to be out there.

[Jay Croucher]

Jets aren't afraid of a coverage breakdown. No deep ball. I think the most compelling figure in this game in a way is going to be Traybj on Henderson. Matthew comes in at RB17.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, it's a top 20 play obviously. I think based on last week we expect an equal if not bigger workload. And over the last four weeks the jets are 28th against the run. I have Diggs is a top 20 play but Breeze hall is running back 21. You're starting Drake May but other than that try to try to avoid this.

[Jay Croucher]

Game starting any job.

[Matthew Berry]

I'm not starting Breeze Hall. I would start Breeze hall outside of Breeze Hall. I guess if you're desperate, you could hope hope for something from Mason Taylor. But assuming Justin Field starts. No, I I would not. All right, that music means it's closing time. You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here. For Lawrence and Jay, I'm Matthew. Go read my 10 Facts column on NBCSports.com we'll see you tomorrow. Good luck tonight. Peace. I won't let my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis symptoms define me. Emerge as you in two clinical studies, Trimfaia guselkumab, taken by injection, provided 90% clearer skin at 16 weeks in 7 out of 10 adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. In a study, nearly 7 out of 10 patients with 90% clearer skin at 16 weeks were still clearer at 5 years. At 1 year and thereafter, patients and healthcare providers knew that Tremphya was being used. This may have increased results. Results may vary.

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