← Fantasy Football Happy Hour with Matthew Berry
Fantasy Football Happy Hour with Matthew Berry
Week 11 Takeaways: Josh Allen, Brock Purdy + Michael Penix Jr., Drake London injuries
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November 17: Matthew (@MatthewBerryTMR), Jay (@croucherJD), and Connor (@ConnorJRogers) recap player performances in Bucs-Bills, Panthers-Falcons, 49ers-Cardinals, Seahawks-Rams, Chiefs-Broncos, and Lions-Eagles. The guys also highlight injuries to Michael Penix Jr. and Drake London, big days from Nico Collins and Kenneth Gainwell, and unveil their favorite bets in Cowboys-Raiders.
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Bryce Young, okay?
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31 of 45. 448. 448. The team record. Let's go. I will see you tomorrow.
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I will see you tomorrow.
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Yes, sir. Because, guys, we can't let up.
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We cannot let up, okay? We got to keep our foot on the gas. We got to keep going together, keep pounding together. Fantasy Football Happy hour with Matthew Berry.
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Welcome to the Fantasy Football Happy Hour. A happy Monday to everybody. That was Dave Canales at the top firing up.
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The boys absolutely love seeing him talking about how they keep pounding. Just an orgy of yards and points for the Panthers yesterday. Bryce Young. By the way, Bryce Young drinks free Roll Tide. Tough weekend for the Tide, obviously, but Bryce Young represented.
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What great timing for a Roll Tide.
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I'm just saying.
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Well, devastating loss.
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No, but Bryce Young. I'm just saying. That's what I'm saying. Tough weekend for the Tide. But, you know, for those of us who root for Alabama, we can hang our hat on a great day for Bryce Young and the Carolina Panthers. One of the prides of Alabama, Bryce Young has had an up and down career in the NFL. It's Been somewhat tough on him. It was great to see. What. What do you mean?
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When was it Something has to be up to be up and down.
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He was down this stretch of the year. Down the stretch of the season last year he was good.
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He got. He got a lot better last year.
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Got a lot better once he got. He came back from the benching and then anyway. But whatever. Like come on, we're trying to let the kid drink for free. He drinks for free. Bryce Young. Good for you. Good for the Carolina. Keep pounding.
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Keep pounding.
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Keep pounding indeed.
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I like Aloha Bricks in the chat saying nice to see Jay and Barry not being blown off the set 100%. I watched some of you guys yesterday. You looked real warm.
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It was awful. Yeah, that was our. I'm just going to say this right here.
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Lawrence is just like we're actually. We're going to show some video of Lawrence for good reasons. But man, everybody was very cool.
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Those are. I've done this show now for three I've done fantasy football pregame for three and a half years. Little over three and a half years. That was our worst show that we've ever done.
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Content wise or conditions.
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All of it. All of it. Top to bottom. That is the worst show we've ever done.
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The desk was a good moment for me.
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It was the wor. It was like it was uncomfort. We're there. It's like it's windy, it's cold. We can't see each other. There's only three of us. Because George Severicas again has not figured out his legal issues with the state of Pennsylvania. He's not allowed in the state. All the rumors you've heard online, some of them are true. Not all of them. Some of them are around George Severicus in the state of Pennsylvania.
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Yeah, I believe he does after the Cody Parkey missed kick against the Eagles. As a Bears fan, I believe he declared war on the state of Pennsylvania entirely. Some illegal.
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Entirely possible.
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I felt like tour in Kansas City yesterday. Nice bowl.
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No answers.
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No, no answers for the elements completely overcome. Can't throw the ball down the field. It was awful.
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Anyways, it's a Monday. We got your weekend warriors coming to.
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America for what they watch Sunday morning.
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We'Ll have our favorite bets for Cowboys Raiders on Monday night Football. But before we do any of that let's get into the Roto Roto world player news and recap some of the games. The fantasy bonanza that was Bucs Bills as the Bills win big as you see the Notable fantasy scorers here, Josh Allen at the top, doesn't surprise anybody. Sean Tucker number two maybe does surprise some. We'll have a little bit more on that. But we got to hear from Josh Allen after this game on staying level for the win.
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We just got to do a good.
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Job again, not riding the wave, trying.
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To stay as level as possible, not getting too high, not getting too low. You know, starting off 40 and we're the best team in the world. We lose two in a row, now we're the worst team in the world and it's like we don't want to ride that. We just want to stay here, stay consistent, continue to work hard, put together.
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Game plans and go out there and.
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Execute on game days.
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6Th touchdown day for number 17, proud.
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Fantasy life investor, Josh Allen. Thank you very much. Look, it's the most points by a fantasy quarterback in a game since Josh Allen had 51.9 in Week 14 last season, its fourth career 40 point game. No other quarterback has more than two during that stretch. The last non Josh Allen quarterback to have a six touchdown game, believe it or not, was tuatanga violoa in 2022 roll tide. So I'm just saying, you know, there's not much analysis here other than to say that when you think about what Lamar Jackson did yesterday, bad fantasy day. He was brutal. From a fantasy football perspective, Jayden Daniels has been a disappointment. Jalen hurts, tough game last night as well. We'll talk about that. Burrows hurt. When you think about sort of all the elite quarterbacks, it's been a disappointing season one way or the other for all of them with the exception of 17. Our hero, our savior, our MVP, Josh Allen.
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Yeah, this is like an old school Josh game kind of where there was the wild interception out of the end zone through another pick. This is Alan kind of exercised these demons last year where he didn't turn the ball over and the offense became a bit steadier and run heavy. But yesterday, I mean they were trailing for a lot of the game. It was just airing out, going back and forth with Baker. But he still has, I mean he has the highest ceiling of anyone fantasy wise. He also probably has the highest floor as well. So he's just the highest, right?
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There's not much, there's no analysis there. He's the number one quarterback in fantasy on a weekly basis, on a, on a season long basis. But I thought the interesting thing here, Connor was James Cook who had a season high in receiving yards. He's now had back to back Games with double digit target shares. One of the concerns on Cook coming in the season was he's. He's got to score touchdowns because it's just not being used in the passing game. That's still only three. Three receptions on three targets. So it's not like a massive part, but still getting something. He had a receiving touchdown here, Connor. They're starting to use him a little bit more.
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Yeah. Which is great to see. Also this script was ridiculous, which helps him in the passing game as well. The lead changed nine times in this game. I know the final score kind of paints a different picture. Thought Todd Bowles should not have punted on that fourth and two with seven minutes left. That's a different story. But the point remains the same. When Josh Allen and James Cook are in these scripts against good offenses, they're limitless, fantasy wise, because the opportunity is insane.
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Do you think the decision to punt there by Todd Bowles is. He blinked once and they thought he blinked twice. You know what I mean? And just there was just like a miscommunication. Yeah, just like, you know, just like. Yeah. Did he blink once or twice? I think he blinked twice. I think he means we got a punt. Yeah. Coming out there and like, you know, maybe he just got something in the eye.
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It's. It's incredible because I think Todd Bowles is a good coach. He's got defensive game plan, plays hard every week. It seems like he's created a good culture there. I still remember him putting Jalen hurts in an absolute blender when they played the Eagles in the playoffs a couple years ago. But it's so weird. There's just no correlation whatsoever between being a good coach and making correct game management decisions around fourth downs and clock management and stuff. Like him not going for two again in the, in the Chiefs game last year when the Bucks didn't have any players at the end of that game in primetime, like just over and over again, particularly, it's like Josh Allen's on the other side.
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I know, but you know, they scored 32 points. They had a chance at this game, at winning it. But that's an NFL discussion. The other thing that I think is interesting from this side, Keon Coleman, a healthy scratch, he missed a team meeting, blah, blah, blah. Fine. But we'll talk more about him tomorrow. But I just want to point out Tyrell Shavers. You're like, who the hell is Tyrell Shavers? Well, he tied for the team lead with five targets, 17% target share. And a friend of mine said he reminds Me of kind of Stefan Diggs, Tyrell Shavers. I think in terms of the game, lofty, but I just, I don't know. We'll talk about more of him tomorrow. But like he had a strong camp and I just think he's a. He's just an interesting name that, you know, you might gloss over in the box score. I think I want to talk about him a little bit more other side of the ball here in this game. Johnny Dangerly says Connor's jacket is distracting. Well, you're distracting Johnny Dangerly now.
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The show's gone. Thanks, Johnny. You just comment shows off the rails. We are doing so good. So good. I apologize.
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I like the jacket.
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Thank you.
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You know, like you're at least trying this one.
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I'm doing my best.
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Yeah.
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I don't address myself in years.
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He's not going to take credit for this.
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No.
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Anyway, I think, I think. Did you wear this on Sims too? I did. I'm double dipping. Right. You've gotta, like, it's tough cause you've gotta navigate.
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I know.
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Appropriate, you know, for two different shows.
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It's not easy.
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Yeah, I understand.
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There's a good casual element to this show. Although we've slowly upgraded each year. You're in a Josh Allen jersey today for the right reasons.
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Right.
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But I feel like if you looked at us dressing year one to this year, we look like adults now.
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Yeah. Well, the NBC Sports wardrobe department, thank God, saved us from ourselves. I try on Mondays to wear a jersey. Usually it's, you know, it's victory Monday. If Jaden Daniels led us to a victory. Otherwise, you know, a jersey represents somebody that was awesome. In fantasy football, we do not have a Sean Tucker jersey. Unfortunately, a number 44 Syracuse jersey would also have worked. But, but we, a lot of people like, wow, Sean Tucker, what an amazing game. This came out of nowhere. Not for everybody. Roll this clip.
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I got Sean Tucker here and it's.
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A desperation play because he's been playing less than 35% of the snaps the past few games.
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But Buffalo has a third rushing defense in the NFL.
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They're tied for most rushing touchdowns allowed to running backs. And Sean Tucker himself, I think the.
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Bucks really like him. He's had double digit touches in two straight games.
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So we'll go with Sean Tucker for the desperation play.
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That was, that was Matthew's first time holding a microphone.
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By the way, you're kind of looking at it like.
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Well, it's like an ice cream con. So first off, shout out to Lawrence Jackson. Amazing. Call the point Is. Is that on our desperation play segment on Fantasy bowl pregame? His desperation call was Sean Tucker. Mine was Greg Dorch, the human Dorch, who, you know, had a nice game but didn't have three touchdowns the way Sean Tucker did. We'll talk about Sean Tucker in a second. I'll just say about that clip. I'm freezing. My hands are popsicles. And what you. If you look at that clip, what you'll see is my other hand is actually in my pocket holding hand warmers. We needed. I am miserable in that clip. I was miserable for two hours. Like, I'm exhausted. I watched a lot. I'm cold. I'm miserable. It's only three of us. Jay's phoning it in. The whole. Jay was, like, trying to hold the dad together. Like, papers are flying everywhere. And then. And we look out and the crew is all shivering and they're all doing this. They're all like, you know, they're just.
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Like, when are we out of here?
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Yeah. They're like, we thought we just had to do football night, but now we've got to do your dumb show. And, like, you know, I feel bad. They're watching stuff they don't care about anyway. It was. Whole thing was a disaster. And at least the football game was good afterwards. Yeah, good lord. Back to Sean Tucker here, though. Connor, I feel like you and I talked about him a lot in the preseason and Lawrence as well. Like, when I was at the combine again, I talked to a high team source at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who said, we love Sean Tucker. We think he's got the talent to be a number one running back in the NFL. His only issue is he's on a team with Bucky Irving.
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Right. And now you see why. Because of how awesome he looked with a lower snap rate than Rashad White yesterday, both on the ground and through the air. Now, you could start. You want to start any running back against the Bills defense. We know that. But he looked explosive. He's got great acceleration. He can make people miss. I mean, this was somebody that was insanely talented at Syracuse. Don't get it twisted. Some injuries kind of slowed down that pathway. And like you said, the depth chart of the Bucs slowed that down. It's just a matter of. Of course, this is the week when Bucky Irving's been working his way back on the field.
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That's the frustrating. I. I mean, I'll just be honest. Like, I had a ton. If. If you went and looked at every draft that I had, I think I had Sean tucker on Probably 80% of my teams as a late round running back pick. But then Bucky Irvin goes, oh, here we go, Sean Tucker. I'm telling you guys, he's going to be a thing this year. And then Rashad White gets all the work. And so now I have Sean Tucker on like half my teams because I've dropped him.
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Right.
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And I'm sure a lot of people have or he's been. We've talked about him on the waiver wire show for a couple of weeks about how he's been increasing his touches as well. But this is the question from Vet that I think everyone's asking, how do you see the Bucs backfield going forward? Is White droppable, assuming Bucky Irving comes back? I don't think Rashad White is droppable, no. What's unfortunate, as great as his performance was, guys, you know, third straight game with 10 or more touches, he's averaging almost six yards per carry over the last two weeks. He got 100% of the goal to go rushing attempts in this game. But I don't think Bucky Irving loses his job. The only thing is, the only thing is, the only thing I can see happening is that Sean Tucker has forced his way into making this more of a three headed committee and he's going to hurt Bucky Irving's value than having a standalone value on his own.
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I think that's the problem is that it just kind of, you know, eats away at each other, as we like to say. And it's not that this is an outlier game because I think Sean Tucker is really good. He also averaged 3.2 yards before contact per attempt. Yeah, like this is just the Bills run defense where it was the perfect scenario.
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Yep, he was able to get a Runway on a lot of these runs and he could activate that kind of outlier speed and get to the edge. I would say. My guess is how it's going to go is that Bucky irving will get 2/3 of the early down work and Tucker gets one third of it. And then Rashid Rashad White is the receiving back and all that adds up to is Bucky Irving is the guy you want, but you don't feel amazing about it. Now they have a really difficult matchup against the Rams this week that's brutal.
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After that, that's the Sunday night game on NBC. And Peacock, I'm a company man, which.
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Would be a great game. But after that the schedule really lightens up because they're in the nfc.
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Cardinals, Cardinals, Saints, Falcons, who's we'll get to. There's some Falcons news that season against.
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The Panthers for division which is unbelievable. So yeah, not so not an imposing schedule down the stretch. So there will be running back value. It's just that it's hard to sift through it and it's probably Bucky Irving.
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The last thing from this game for me guys is a Mecca. Buku, who's now had single digit fantasy points in three of the last four games over that time stream, over that time frame, he's been wide receiver 28, which is concerning when you think about no Mike Evans or Chris Godwin. We were sort of like, okay, here's Abuka who was so good at the beginning of the year and now, you know, it should open up for him and just, you know, their offense has struggled and they've had some weird games.
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But a little chaotic.
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Yeah.
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And Chris Godwin is going to be back.
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Yeah.
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In the near future.
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The other couple, three things were there. Buko got three points about him. First of all, I believe he's caught like 45 out of 84 targets, which isn't ideal. He struggled a little bit. I think he's been a bit overblown, but he struggled to create against press man coverage. And then secondly, like that 77 yard touchdown against the Eagles that touched three Eagles defended for just bouncing into his lap for a touchdown. You take that out and it's like, all right, we're still a good season but doesn't look nearly as impressive and that plays in predictive at all. That was just a complete, you know, act of God. So yeah, I think Booker, he's still getting the targets which is the main thing and that's going to sustain as long as Mike Evans is out. But yeah, the idea that he was going to be like a legit wide receiver 1 the rest of the way.
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Is certainly, yeah, he's more in that wide receiver two, three kind of corner there. And give me Tyler Warren, his offensive rookie of the year over a Mecca.
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Abuka or Tetaroa McMillan perhaps.
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Huge game from him, one of the.
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Leaders in receiving yards. And speaking of Jay, we move to the Panthers game where Bryce Young was unconscious in this game. It was his best game as a young pro and still outscored by his number one wide receiver in Teteroa McMillan. Eight catches, 130 yards, a two touchdown game. And I think what was most noteworthy now is guys, they are utilizing him as the true number one threat in their offense. When you look at his ability to play inside and Outside, this is from Next Gen stats. The route tree slot versus playing outside. Teddy Roe. McMillan is a threat everywhere. I thought he looked good at the catch point, but also with the ball in his hands. Matthew.
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Yeah. For people that are just listening on the podcast, the tweet says McMillan caught 8 of 12 passes for a career high 130 yards and two touchdowns. Against the Falcons, he recorded an identical four receptions for 85 yards and a touchdown, both inside the numbers and outside the numbers. To your point about the route tree, just a complete route tree. This is not a one trick pony. This is a complete wide receiver at the NFL level. And when Bryce Young plays, you know, middle of the pack or elite as he did against the Falcons here, you know, you get to see why this guy was a first round, first round pick, why he was such a high talent. He was your number one wide receiver on the board, right? Yeah, Tetaroa. Because Hunter was. You were counting Hunter.
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He's a dual player.
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He's a dual player as well. And the thing that I thought was nice here, Jay, is that for season high, four slot targets including two end zone targets. Not only does he have an expanded route tree, they're moving him all over. Dave Canales is trying a bunch of different things, right? You know, getting a little weird, little freaky and trying to get Tedro McMullen the ball.
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Yep, that's the key. This is what activates kind of wide receiver. One type of value is when you get started getting moved into the slot where it's just kind of harder to take you out out as opposed to the outside. And when you're getting end zone targets as well. And he's clearly the number one target when they get into the end zone. They also have on Monday Night Football a matchup against the Niners defense that just gave up the record for completions to in an NFL game to Jacoby Brissette. That Niners defense is decimated. So I think that should be a farewell matchup. The Panthers also six and a half point dogs. The big question with Ted a rower has always been, can Bryce Young play at a level to just accumulate yards? Because Bryce kept having these games, it's like 160 yards. It's like this just isn't viable. Well, he just broke the franchise record for most yards in a game. And he looked the best to the eye test that he had since really the end of last season.
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Yeah, since week eight he's got a 33% target share. That's third highest in the NFL in that time. Frame so like he's getting all the looks. It's just Ken Bryce get him the ball. Yesterday he was able to do that.
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On the Falcons side of it guys, the good Bijan Robinson scores two rushing touchdowns inside the five yard line. A lot of them have been poached by Tyler Algier. 104 rushing yards, 39 receiving yards. A lot of these yards were in the first half of this game though. And the not so good news besides that. Michael Pennix Jr. Reportedly suffers a season ending injury. This is from Adam Schefter. He's going to seek a second opinion but the early look right now is that this is a season ending knee injury. It's not encouraging. Drake London is also hurt and could miss some time as well. As you see from Ian Rapaport to the Falcons right now, very banged up. Michael Pennock's down for the year. As for Drake London, he suffered a PCL sprain. He's going to be out this week and potentially more Atlanta very shorthanded right now.
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Matthew. Yeah, they've got the Kirk Cousins, Kyle Pitts connection which has worked so well in the past. So they've got that to lean on.
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I thought Donald Ray, Ray McLeod, where are you at?
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He's gone. I know he's not there anymore.
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They got to bring him back. They got to find him.
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Yeah, I thought maybe going into the Dolphins game where Cousins started that maybe because he was really. Cousins was very good fantasy wise the first eight, nine weeks of last season.
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He's fine.
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Then he heard his elbow against the Saints.
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Yeah.
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And he was a Bucks merchant, right?
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Yeah. But he was still able to like put up like 500 yards in an NFL game. But he did not look good against the Dolphins. He did not look good against the Panthers in the end. Yeah. I think it's just done some of the passes that he was throwing yesterday. I just. And with no weapons as well with Drake London out. I mean it's, it's Bijan and kind.
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Of again he might now again, you know, he probably didn't. He might be a little bit rusty. Didn't get the first team like I do believe. Like the issue is though he did.
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Against the Dolphins and it was even worse.
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That's where I'm going is what I was going to say is like look, I do think like there's, I've seen a lot of people, people have made this excuse for Shedeur Sanders and we can get there. Right. But that like that Chedeur who did not look good against the Ravens when he had to come in for Dylan Gabriel. And the argument there is, and I buy this argument somewhat not necessarily specific to Chedeur, but that it's different when a quarterback knows he's the guy and gets all the first team reps through practice and you're putting a game plan together. The coaching staff is. That is specific to that quarterback because there are things that Penix does well that they wouldn't necessarily do for Cousins, vice versa. Right. And so I think going into this week, Cousins, Cousins who hasn't played very much this year, you know, the game plan was designed around Pennx and he didn't get a lot of first team reps. All that said, there's literally nothing we've seen in the past calendar year that makes you think, oh, Kirk Cousins is suddenly going to be the guy that we saw a couple of years ago, the guy that, you know, was so good in Minnesota. So I'm with you. And down all these weapons just, you know, to me the big thing is, is that Tyler Algiers is going to have like legit RB2 value because it's going to be all bichon. Like they might, they might run the ball 35 times. Yeah. Like I don't know what else you're.
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Doing from the day. She is a stock up or stock down for Robertson. I think it's stock up just because there's no one left on the team. And Drake London had such a high target share. Bijan Robinson might be the most targeted player. That's what I guess offense going for. I think he's probably the favorite to be and he's also clearly going to get carries en masse as well. So yeah, I think kind of the.
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Issue with Cousins is 27 touches for Bijan in this game. You know that, that Cousins came into as well. So like yeah, three goal line attempts. So thank God they actually used Bijan Robinson. What do you know? What an idea.
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The issue for me, Conor with is very basic analysis. But the ball just doesn't zip anymore. It just floats out there.
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Right. And the upper body injuries. The only thing I could say is.
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Achilles, like it's hard. He's stepping into it.
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Even though it's good.
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He's. I mean like that's such a devastating injury, especially to a quarterback who needs to step into his throws. Yep.
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I'm with you. That at minimum feels net neutral for Bijan. But if you want to take the contrarian take of it, Penix was really good yesterday before he got hurt, which is more goal line opportunities for Bijan and I know that also parlays into Tyler Algiers. So hopefully Cousins just doesn't sink the offense entirely where it takes away any touchdown equity from those guys.
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Here's the. If there's a positive. And I know it's a tough day for all of our Falcons fans, including Lawrence Jackson, but they're at New Orleans this week and then at the Jets. So, you know, in theory, like, the schedule doesn't get tough until three weeks from now. They're home to Seattle. At least that's a home game. You got a West coast team traveling east and they'll be in the Dome, and then they're at Tampa Bay. So three of the next four are against past defenses or defenses that have more or less struggled. Tempe's got a good run defense, but you can obviously throw in the box. Yeah.
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B
Kirk reminds me of Peyton Manning, his final year in Denver where he runs the Super Bowl. But there's just like, there's nothing left on the throws, and he still can diagnose the defense and check into the right plays and everything. But, yeah, it just doesn't seem like there's any ceiling with Cousins.
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C
All right, guys, our next game. The Niners blow out the Cardinals in a weird one where.
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A
Just think about. I mean, they got swept by the Panthers. Think about that. If we talked about. I understand that. I'm just saying that from the Falcons point of view, but this is a team that spent $100 million on a quarterback and a. Like, it's just.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like, I mean, just a brutal.
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B
They have to be one of the most talented three and seven teams.
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A
Yes.
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B
They really should have been the Colts. They should have been the Patriots. Like these two teams are competing, the ones.
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A
They've had some bad luck. I think there's been some bad coaching as well. And just, you know, it's.
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B
They should have beaten the Bucks and we can.
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C
1.
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B
They should have won this game. They should be 7, 3.
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A
Yes. But they didn't.
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C
And because of that, their season is nearing the end. But that's not the case for the Niners right now, as you see a lot of scoring leaders in this one. George Kittle, after the game, had a lot to say about the return of Brock Purdy.
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A
Yeah. Friend of the podcast, George Kittle. I'd like. I think I've only said about two quarterbacks. Like, Brock's presence in the huddle is just so elite. And how he talks to the players. How he talks. My wife's calling me. Yep, it's my wife. I'M so sorry.
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C
Don't tell her I ignored her call.
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A
Oh, in trouble. But it's like he just, like he plays the game with this joy that's so infectious and it's just so much fun to play football with him. And I mean especially like what five plays into the game, he hits me 30 yards down the field on a perfect pass. Like he was definitely feeling it. I think he's got the confidence, he's got his swagger. I mean, more people were celebrating with Brock after such I'm passive with me, I was a little jealous.
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C
I hope when George Kittle does media after his career, they let him be exactly who he is.
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A
Well, it would be stupid just like that. It would be stupid to hire George Kittle and not let him do.
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C
But like no suit for George Kittle.
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A
No, absolutely not. You got to show the tats. You got to. Don't make him trim his beard. Like all of it. Yeah, like, yeah. You want the full Kittle experience.
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B
Absolutely. And he was fantastic. And he's right about Purdy. Like, Purdy gives this offense an extra dimension that Mac Jones, who is a very capable steward. He just doesn't have that level of upside, doesn't have the ability to create outside of structure like Purdy does. Over all the jokes about Purdy, like, Purdy was minus 250 with two weeks to go in the season two years ago to win MVP. He played at that level.
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C
Purdy is good.
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B
Yeah, he is an excellent. He is a, at worst the top 12 quarterback in the NFL and he got paid a quarter of a billion dollars for a reason.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And if your defense is down in the secondary like Arizona was, then he's going to torture and they have their weapons back now.
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A
That's the thing.
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B
And the O line is healthier, I think better than it was two years ago, frankly. And so we'll see what happens with Iuk if he ever gets back. But between McCaffrey, Pearsall Kittle, Joanne Jennings, who looks healthier as well, this could be. This could be a top three offense in football the rest of the way. And they have a super easy schedule too. They just play basically suspect defenses and suspect teams the rest of the way. So I think that, yeah, Purdy is a QB one going forward.
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A
They're home to Carolina, then at Cleveland, they've got a buy and then home to Tennessee. To your point there, Jay. And you know, look, Purdy look doesn't get you a ton with his legs, but again, the offense is so elite. The other thing is he's also got an elite play caller. You know, this head coach. Does. Does Brock Purdy work if he gets drafted to Tennessee the way Cam Ward does? Not convinced. But he's landed in a situation that is perfect for his skill set. Credit Kyle Shanahan, John lynch and the 49ers organization for putting him in a position to succeed, surrounding him well. And he has taken advantage of that opportunity. Multiple touchdown passes. Now in all three of his starts this season, he had. He's averaging 17.9 fantasy points per game. He's. He's a low end locked in QB1, segment 01 says. Talk about off the rails. Can you imagine Kittle and Barry pounding wine coolers? Thousand percent.
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B
I misread that. After pounding. Terrifying.
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A
Yeah, we'll keep pounding. Yeah. Honestly, you know what? I. I will just say this right now and maybe, hopefully this gets to George Kittle. Proud fantasy life investor George Kittle, by the way.
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C
Him too. He is army expanded.
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A
He was in our last round. And in fairness, he's through a fund and that he's an lpn, blah, blah, blah, blah. But George Kittle is on my cap table. No, but. No, he's on my cap table. Like George Kittle has equity in fantasy life. But what I will say is, does he know?
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B
Does he know he has equity?
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A
I think his dad does for sure. That much I know. But what I would say here is, in all seriousness, is that if George is listening or anyone that's in George's world, if George would like to do a podcast called Pounding with George and Matthew, I'm down and the subject can be whatever you want.
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C
Your people should pitch that.
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A
I'm just saying. Tell me that's not great. We'll put it on Peacock. Come on. Pounding on Peacock.
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C
George and Matthew, it's not your worst idea. Just saying.
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A
We'll have Dave Canales as our first guest. Oh, my goodness.
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B
Come on, let's go.
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A
It's a Monday.
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C
All right, back to the game. The Cardinals, Jay, are kind of forming a fantasy Ponzi scheme here.
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B
I don't know what this is.
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A
Get blown out in the first half.
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C
Then rack up insane garbage time. Points through Jacoby Brissette to Trey McBride and Michael Wilson.
- [28:43]
B
47 completions. No one's ever had more Michael Wilson. Trey McBride, by the way, is out of his mind. Train wants to fight everyone around him. I love it. It's funny because when we interviewed him.
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A
He'S very like, friend of the podcast Trey McBride. We love McBride. He's on the wall and we Appreciate that.
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C
The taunting penalty was in elite. In a year where it's been a bad year for the refs that was up there with the worst of them. You can't signal first down anymore.
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A
No.
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B
It's unbelievable. And after that, he did it the next time. He didn't even get a first down, but he just did it live, which is fantastic. I love Trey McBride, but look, we're big for our purposes. He's shown that he can. He can clearly distribute the ball to the people who need it. And right now, the people who needed the Trey McBride and Michael Wilson. So Michael Wilson, is he not wide receiver two going forward while Marvin Harrison is out.
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A
Unbelievable. We talked about this when the injury happened, and I wouldn't say we expected this, but we did say we like this. Like, it's a. The. I think the phrase that I used last week was Jacoby Brissette understands the assignment. Get the ball. It's the Josie theory. Get the ball to your good players. He got it to Trey McBride. He got it to Michael Wilson. My. My desperation play. Greg Dorch goes 6 for 66 with a. With a touchdown. Didn't have a massive target share here, but got you points where you needed it here. But yeah, Michael Wilson has the most receiving yards by a player in a game this season. Had a 32% target share in this one. It's his first game this season above 16%. He was averaging just 25 yards per game. Now the question here is what happens? It's the same with Sean Tucker. Like, as brilliant as this game was with Michael Wilson, If Marvin Harrison Jr. Comes back this week, we don't know. We knew he was going to miss just this one week with the appendicitis, and it might be longer, so we'll track that as the week goes on. But I feel like If Marvin Harrison Jr. Comes back, then it's just like, you know, thanks for your service, Michael Wilson, but hard to count on him for consistent fantasy production when you've got MHJ and McBride. But it was an unbelievable game for him and it's just nice seeing that when given the opportunity. Wilson has that skill in him. Jalen Brissette, by the way, is like Joe Flacco West. It's the same thing. Like, he just. He chucks it. He doesn't care. He's got zero Fs left to give at this stage.
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B
Yeah, I don't understand how he does.
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A
And he's good enough to get the ball to, you know, his play. He's a professional quarterback.
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B
I don't understand how you can set the NFL record for completions in a game and only have 21.9 fantasy points.
- [31:03]
C
Troy, by the way, said Brissette is the new Blake Bortle. Saving fantasy lives by the millions.
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A
That is a great call. Although I would argue. I would argue Flat Flacco is the new Blake Bortles and. And Jacoby Brissette is the new Flacco.
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B
Yeah. At this stage, Flacco's got to resign from the mantle. After yesterday, he did nothing.
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C
It was a tough one. Six was the final.
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A
That was a. It was a tough day at the office. So I don't know that there's much more to take about this. But just since taking over the starter again, Blake Bortles, for all of Blake Bortles flaws and sins, he was a top 12 and top 10 fantasy quarterback because it was just. He was a junk time merchant, you know, it was unbelievable. And so yeah, I mean, Jacoby Brissette, since taking over the starter, he's QB4 on a fantasy points per game basis. Right. He's been a top 12 quarterback in all five games this season. Like he's a QB one. He's doing what Kyler couldn't. Kyler was not a top 12 quarterback every single week. Jacoby Brissett is. They're home to Jacksonville next week, then at Tampa Bay. So the next two line up pretty well. Just last thing on this game here. And there's been 14 games between Brock Purdy and George Kittle when they played together and in those 14 games that they've completed that they both stayed healthy throughout the game. George Kittle is averaging basically 17 fantasy points a game, 16.9 to be specific. So I mean, it's just. That connection is awesome. There's an argument to be made that, you know, Kittle with Purdy is right there with McBride and Bowers is like number one tight end in fantasy. Like they're all like.
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B
Those would be the top three. Those three and Tyler Warren.
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A
Yes.
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C
Staying in this division, guys, a game that did not live up to the fantasy potential. The Seahawks lose to the Rams in a game that came down to a field goal. The Rams passing game finally slowed down a little bit. JSN still gets his going over 20 points as does Kenneth Walker. AJ Barner, the next player on this list as the Rams are all grouped together. Solid day for Kyron Williams. Okay day for Puka Nakua Demonte Adams just has the touchdown. Matthew Stafford, by his standards, not a big day as well. Although right now the Rams are the favorite to win the Super bowl at plus 550. After this win, Stafford's MVP odds a couple weeks ago gave that out at plus 50. Plus 550 is now plus 150.
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On the football Night in America podcast that we did last night, we were asked, Maria Taylor asked all of us who's the best team in the NFL. My answer was the Rams.
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C
I'm with you all.
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A
They've got a quarterback that's as good is playing as well as any quarterback in the NFL. They've got a pretty good defense, obviously Puka, Adams, Kyron are all elite their position and Sean McVay is as good a coach as there is in the NFL. Like, I mean top to bottom, like you want to argue the Eagles, you want to argue the Patriots, I get it, they're right there. But for me, I think the Rams are the best team. This was an impressive win. There was not a quarterback going into this game hotter than Sam Darnold. I mean there were other guys. May has played really well, Stafford's played really well, but Sam Darnold's been awesome and then goes into this game they get four picks on him. Credit to Sam Darnold by the way. They still had a chance at the end even with four interceptions. But poor Sam Darnold just, he has a thing with the Rams. You think about last year at the end of this season and now this one. Four interceptions he's now had back to back games with under five fantasy points. One touchdown, just five interceptions, two loss fumbles in that time, one or fewer touchdown passes in three of the past four games. The one game that he didn't was of course the Commander's game in which I think you could throw for 250 against. So Jay Croucher as, as the table's biggest Sam Darnold supporter. How worried are you?
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B
Not worried? No, I think it was just a one off game. And also Donald has shown that he can have these games in the past that he can bounce back from them. I think that he does seem to have a thing where when he gets rattled it does compound and it seems to get in his head. I would say that three of the four picks were his fault. I think one of them, the receiver didn't close the route correctly and cut off the safety. But there is an element to when they. It was very strange in the fourth quarter because it was very clear that Clint Kubiak did not want Donald in a straight drop back situation. Even though it's like Clint you're down nine with four and a half minutes left. Like you need to just throw the ball every play. And they kept on running the ball and getting 4 or 5 yards because they want to play out of play action. They want to be an explosive passing team. But I think Donald will be fine. Like they play the Titans this coming week. The schedule is not that difficult. He will be better than this. JSN is Jason's ridiculous. Jason like the greatest receiver to ever live. Like, what is this? It's unbelievable. His balance, his route, running the one handed catch down the left sideline was insane. It's interesting what you guys say about the Rams though because I came out of this game thinking I think the Seahawks might be the best team in football because Sam Donald just threw four interceptions and they had a chance for a walk off field goal on the road. Yeah, I thought the Seahawks are the better team in this game outside of moments of madness from Donald which are part of their team's profile. That's one of their weaknesses. But the Seahawks defense is legitimate. Stafford couldn't do anything.
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No. By the way, I don't disagree with that take again, I said the Rams because they ended up winning this game. But do I think the super bowl champion potentially comes out of the NFC West? Absolutely. Like if the best teams the NFL.
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B
The Niners are not dead enough with how that offense.
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C
Is it funny that you could host the playoff game and it's like, oh cool, we're hosting the Niners.
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A
Yeah. I mean it's insane, but it absolutely could happen. I mean we, I mean that happened last year obviously when the Eagles hosted the Commanders. We've seen that a lot.
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B
You know, the Panthers might be 10 point dogs at home in round one of the playoffs against Seattle.
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C
I think there's an argument that Mike McDonald has been the best coach in the NFL this year.
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B
I guess.
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A
Yep. That's where I can. Yeah, they're. They're both right there.
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C
What they've gotten out of their rosters.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Are pretty hard to match.
- [36:23]
B
Rival will probably win coach of the year. But to me that's more of a. That's as much a Drake May story of Rabel story. The Colts is a Stichen story and. And the seahawks are a McDonald's story.
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And you know, and like Clint Kubiak could win offensive coordinator of the year if that was an award. Yeah. I mean like, I mean he's, he has been that good. You know, you surprise. We have to move on. But I just want to point out A.J. barner great game for A.J. barner. You know, I know we all love Elijah Arroyo, but AJ Barner has been really productive so far this season. 26% target share. Obviously the 10 for 70 as well. Slow a dot here, but Barter will. I'm sure we'll talk about him more tomorrow. Aloha. Bricks wants to know Sam Darnold of Brock Purdy rest of the season. Brock Purdy. Brock Purdy. Yeah, I think it's Brockvember.
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B
It is Brockvember. He missed all of Brocktober.
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C
Yeah, he's making up for it.
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B
Yeah, rolled forward.
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C
I'm with you guys on that one. All right, another game here. The Chiefs with their backs against the wall out of the bye week. Felt like a spot they couldn't lose.
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A
They do.
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C
They just lose one score game every week. This year feels like when last year they never lost one.
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A
So this is. I gave this out on football night in America pot as well. Last year they were 120 in one score games. This year they're 05. They just, you know, they. And it is a little Freaky Friday, right, because it feels like the Chiefs and Broncos have sort of switched positions because now the Broncos keep winning all these crazy one score games and coming back and doing it. I think the big story out of obviously was a low scoring game. We'll talk about the Chiefs in a second. But to me, guys, the big story out of, out of Denver was RJ Harvey. And I'm not trying to, I'm not going to say I told you so, but screw it. You know what I'm going to say about this? Yes, I am going to say I told you so. We told you so. Like, like people are like RJ Harvey to the moon. I'm like, Sean Payton uses multiple running backs. Don't be surprised. And so like he played 61% of the snaps. He got 52% rush rate, got an 8% target share. Jaleel McLaughlin saw both goal line attempts, right? I mean like his, his utilization score. RJ Harvey's utilization score again. Dwayne McFarlane, FantasyLife.com comes up with a scale of 100 on how much they were used and what that predicts for future success. 63 that was ranked 21st among running backs in week 11. By the way, he was my running back 21, just randomly here. But like he was a low end RB2 in this game. He, he goes into Monday football as running back 35. Had he gotten into the end zone, he's probably in the 20s. But like it's A committee.
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C
That's the problem with Sean Payton's offense is that as the lead back you don't get into the end zone. He was doing this to J.K. dobbins.
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A
Yes, sir.
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C
So it's just the wheel always turns to somebody else.
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A
Yeah.
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B
To me the story out of this game in a way though was, was Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs offense like they cleaned up closing four and a half point favorites on the road. We talked all week and the football world talked all week about how this is a gotta have it game for the Chiefs if they want any part of the division. If they lose to the Colts next.
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A
Week they may 27 and 4. Andy Reid, including playoffs for his career out of a buy is 27 and four going into this game is now obviously 27 and five.
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B
Yeah, there are better stats to encompass a quarterback's value than pass the rating. Patrick Holmes is 15th in the NFL and passer rating. He has all his weapons back now the offensive line they spent. I know Josh Simmons situation isn't ideal, but still like Mahomes has not been the same guy. Travis Kelsey Chelsea has a fantastic day, but outside of that, like Rasheed Rice has a bad drop, is largely unsighted despite the targets. Xavier Worthy is like a gadget player.
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C
He's not dangerous at all for a first round pick.
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B
No. So it's a bit of a mess there. And like Patrick still obviously an elite quarterback, still one of the five quarterbacks you want. But I don't know how anyone watches football and thinks like Patrick Mahomes right now is a better quarterback than Josh Allen.
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A
Season lows and target share receiving yards and fantasy points for Rasheed Rice. And to your point about Mahomes, by the way, Kelsey did the majority of the work on that touchdown. It wasn't like he found him in the end zone. That was a great route. And then ultimately a great run after the catch by Kelsey, which is what he's done. That's part of his makeup.
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B
But terrible pick by Mahomes as well. I will say my homes is defense. I'm not sure there's anyone in the history of football who I trust more if it's 4th and 15 or 3rd and 15 like Mahomes just he puts it up for grass scares. Yeah, he makes the most of it. He had these throws against the Eagles I think last year that were just completely insane. He draws the pie on the deep one this time. But yeah, the Chiefs offense is not the juggernaut that it looked like it might be a couple of years.
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A
Back to back games with under 14 fantasy points from Mahomes. He's home to Indianapolis. Your Colts next week. That'll be a fascinating game. Kareem Hunt gets in the end zone with another touchdown as well. But I think moving like you're still starting Rice and Kelsey every week but I think Mahomes, you probably don't have other options. But I think it's now at least a question. Whereas before it was this. I don't care who's on the schedule, I don't care who else on my team. I'm just starting Mahomes. Mahomes. Two tough games and a tough match against the Colts who are off of a buy and had two weeks to prepare for. Mahomes is going to be, you know, a low end QB1 for me. High end QB2 this week by the way.
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B
Rest of the way, this is not played out so far this season because of personnel. I think the Colts are going to be one of the biggest run funnel defenses in the league because Travers Ward's going to come back off of IR and the concussion and Kenny Moore, that's the best cornerback room in the NFL. I agree. They're missing defense. Forrest Buckner now on the interior of the defense. I think you're gonna be able to run on the Colts and not really be able to pass on them.
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C
The problem is their offense is so good they are gonna force you to throw on.
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A
Yeah, that's right.
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C
To see how it plays out.
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A
And specifically next week the Chiefs don't really have anyone that can run on there.
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C
They don't want to run consistently.
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A
Kareem Hunt just looks like he's. I mean he. Again with Kareem Hunt, he has to fall into the end zone to provide fantasy value. He just looks. He looks slow to me.
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C
I think he is.
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A
Is that why he looks slow? Because he actually is.
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C
I think. I think there's a chance he's slow.
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A
Fair enough.
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C
Our final game, Sunday Night Football, the Lions lose against the Eagles. We do no 20 point scorers in this one. Jamison Williams is back. Since Dan Campbell is calling plays. Jameer Gibbs gets his yardage. That's it. There's really no other fantasy production in this game, Matthew. The Eagles passing game. How much do you want to just put your head through a wall right now?
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A
It was brutal. So my three play last night, you know, Gibbs over 70 yards cashed Eagles. Eagles minus two and a half cash. Jalen hurts. 180 yards. Like you're a professional quarterback. You should be able to get 180 yards against a lion secondary that isn't great and was missing a couple of starters. And by the way, Hurts had gotten to 180 yards in four of the last five games, including that brutal packers game. The one game he didn't get to, it was 179 yards and you're like, you should be able to get to, you know, 180 yards and he doesn't even come close. 135 in this game. He was brutal and they made a he. They were force feeding AJ Brown in this game. AJ Brown. I'm like, how do you have like under 60 yards with double digit targets? Like it was just absolutely forcing for AJ Brown except Rondo Robinson catches balls. I mean like the whole offense, like the Philadelphia Eagles got so lucky because their defense is truly elite. It's an unbelievable defense. Howie Roseman is general manager. He's like general manager of the year every year, right? I mean like how he's done an unbelievable job. But like that offense was brutal last night. And I'm arguing with people online, they're saying like, oh, it was a bad bet, Barry. It was super windy, like 40 mile degree. There were 40 mile degree wins in Buffalo. Josh Allen threw for over 180 yards, threw over 300. I mean like, you know, it's like man oh man, they were like Lamar Jackson threw for over 480 yards against a much tougher Cleveland Browns defense. And it was 40°, 40 mile an hour winds in Cleveland. Yeah, was this bad last night?
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B
He was.
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A
Offense is a disaster.
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B
Yeah, a guy wasn't bad. Those Jameson Williams on the other side of the ball. Second straight game where he delivers and overachieves on expectations. I thought he was going to struggle in this matchup. He was kind of the one guy who didn't. At the same time, I don't think he's a locked in every week starter just because I mean he still. He had four catches. He happened to house, one of them gets a deep reception. Ultimately, I think you feel a lot better about Jameson Williams outlook with Dan Campbell. Two for two games with Dan Campbell calling the plays. But there are just going to be weeks where they just run the ball a ton and they're playing with more of a lead.
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C
It is promising that he's being used as the primary read though.
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A
There's. There's no question about it. Eagles play Cowboys next week, so maybe their offense gets on track. Maybe Devontae Smith, I just pop. That was my best bet. First game since week six with a below 30% target share for Devonte. Just whatever his lowest game since week seven of last season in terms of yards per target. Just Bad day at the office. Very, very frustrating for your boy Matt.
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C
The week 11 injuries. We're tracking Aaron Rodgers, some kind of fracture in his wrist that we're going to get an update on today. Michael Panicks could be out for the season with a knee injury. Dylan Gabriel left the game with concussion. Josh Jacobs left in the second quarter with a knee injury, Jalen Warren with an ankle, Kymani Vidal with a thigh, Bashal Tutin left the game with an ankle, Imari Di Mercado with an ankle. Drake London will miss at least a week with his knee injury and Calvin Ridley season is done with the fibula injury as well. We're taking our first break when we're back, Weekend Warriors Sunday Scaries headlined by a massive dud from Lamar Jackson. We're going to dive into it right after this.
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Not an easy situation to be inserted into, but at least makes some of the pass catchers for the Jets a little more interesting. Like Breece Hall.
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Are you surprised at all by this? No.
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Fields has been. He was unplayable in that game. Unplayable in that game. Say what you want about Adonai Mitchell's drops, which every Fields defender defaults to. Fields misses throws. He's holding the ball too long to give that locker room a chance. You have to evaluate Mason Taylor. Yeah, and Adonai Mitchell and John Mechi. Like you have to see what you have. You can't do that with Fields. I'm not surprised. Let's get to some weekend warriors, Jay how about Nico Collins with Davis Mills? Nine catches, 92 yards and a touchdown against Tennessee, but still.
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Yeah, diabolical beat for the Tennessee Texans. Minus five and a half backers here but Nico Collins did his best. Insane catch on. I think it was third and 16 the final drive to win the game. Little toe tap. He's looked back and I think. I think this will continue when C.J. stroud gets back. I don't think he is a Davis Mills Merchant.
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How about Debo Samuel Matthew. Good to see him looking healthy. Seven catches, 74 yards in the big Madrid game. He gets the touchdown most importantly.
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Yeah. 28 target share. Seventh straight game with a target share of at least 20%. He's now had four different games with 20 or more fantasy points but commanders on a bye and then they play Denver at home. So let's not get too excited. Their season is over. Jay, they're three and eight but I should. You should keep holding on to Jaden Daniels. Absolutely. Keep doing that.
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He's going to Cutsville this week.
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Okay, we'll see.
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It'd been a tough couple games fantasy wise for Jordan Love Jay, but Christian Watson gets him at. Christian Watson gets him out of that funk yesterday with the two big plays for touchdowns.
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Yeah, one that Love threw into about triple coverage and Watson came down with it which honestly might have saved Green Bay's season season with how the NFC playoff picture is coming out. Yeah, I don't know what the upshot is here really outside of the fact that Love trusts Watson in the end zone. But I think that as the packers as they get healthier with Matthew golden with Jaden Reed coming back, I don't think Kristen Watson's a guy you can really count on.
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Matthew for Kenneth Gainwell, a prime Alvin Camara script. 70 catches, 81 yards and two touchdowns as a running back in this one.
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Well this is what he does right. Jalen Warren left the game early in the third quarter with an ankle injury. Now one Warren said after the game that he felt like he could have come back in and so we'll see whether he is going to miss time. He can't always trust players but if Warren were to miss time, Gainwell will be the lead guy and when he's gotten an opportunity this year he's been great. Second game this season with 29 fantasy points. Third game this season with a target share of at least 20% at a 28% target share. Mason Rudolph might be under center for the Steelers on Sunday as well, which I think would help to gain. Well, yeah, it's looking like that's going to be the case. Roger is going to get a second opinion. But Mason Rudolph, not the biggest arm in the world. He's not scared to dump it off to Gainwell.
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Yeah, just came in and ran the offense Sunday. Scaries headlined by Lamar Jackson J 14:25.
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There was the two picks of course.
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One was tipped but he just doesn't look like himself right now mobility wise.
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No he doesn't. And frankly he hasn't really all season since that Buffalo game in week one. Like why was he getting sacked seven times by the Lions even before he did the hamstring? So I think a lot of this was about Myles Garrett having an out of body experience. And the Browns, you know they have a top five defense but Lamar, he has not been the same guy that he was last year.
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10 rushing yards in this game, fewest in a game this season. But they do get the jets next week so hopefully, hopefully that bounces back for lj.
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Disastrous day for the Chargers offense. Matthew disastrous. Justin Herbert doesn't even get to 100 yards lad McConkey. Three catches for 13 yards.
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Awful. Like by the way that's that was my worst call of the entire week. I was Herbert and McConkey were on the love list. I had Gadsden as a top 10 play. I thought QJ would do well as well. Just could not have been more wrong about this season. Low in average depth of target. The offensive line is just so brutal for the Chargers. Jacksonville is able to get after them as well. Just a 17% target share for McConkey. Back to back games now with a below 20% target share. Fifth game this season for McConkey. Single digit fantasy points. A lot of them happened earlier in the year as well. But Justin Herbert just a little too inconsistent. 3.3 fantasy points though. 2nd lowest scoring game of his entire career against Jacksonville. This is just. This is embarrassing and this is the most this is the least prepared I've ever seen a Jim Harbaugh coach team. It was awful. It was an embarrassment.
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Same could be said Jay for the Bengals in this one. Joe Flacco not a great day. Of course the pick six Ja' Marr Chase production wise really bad. 3 catches, 30 yards. Even worse, he could be facing a suspension with the video that's come out against Jalen Ramsey.
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It's unbelievable to say with such conviction that you that you did not spit on someone when you have to know there's video of you spitting on someone. In any case, Joe Flacco is what happens every year, my friends. He has these great stretches and then it kind of he turns pumpkin time. Flacco, he did that in the playoffs that you were at against the Texans last year. Same thing with the Colts. And this year he was, he was diabolical yesterday. He could have had multiple pick sixes.
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Yes. I mean but again, I don't know that there's any takeaway. None of these guys you're panicking on. Just tough day at the office for all of them. And also but I think the jury is still out a little bit on Woody Marks. Again we see this like Woody Marks has this great game. We're like well in on Woody Marks and then you know, a game like he had. This should have been a great game for Woody Marks. But you know, he had season eyes in rush attempts and rush rate. He had 18 attempts, 78% rush rate. But just 6.1 fantasy points just didn't turn into production. 18 for 44. He only catches one ball for seven yards, which is weird. They didn't use him in the passing game here. Connor, I get it's Davis Mills, but but under seven fantasy points in two of the past three. Obviously had the one big game in between there. But I don't know that you feel like you we need to see more consistency out of Woody Marks before you can feel like he's a locked in top 20 running back.
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A lot of runs for a loss. A lot of runs. At the stop to the line of scrimmage. I need him to get to 60 for pickup lines. Disappointing day for Woody Marks. All right, we're taking our final break. Last call is next. We got our favorite bets for Monday Night Football. Cowboys, Raiders, right after this. For years, everyone thought Verizon had the best network because they did. But now the best mobile network in.
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I'll take the Cowboys minus three and a half and Quinn Williams is going to revolutionize his defense. My man Donovan Ezraku playing a lot better especially well. This Cowboys defense I think is going to be great going for it, but I think it will be much more respectable.
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What about you Matthew?
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I'm going with the ashton genty over 17 and a half receiving yards. Cowboys allow the third most receiving yards per game to running backs. Again with that line with Quinn Williams. I think one of the ways they'll get the ball to Genty is throwing it. He's had five targets each the past two games. Ten different running backs have gotten at least 20 receiving yards against the Cowboys. I say Genty is number 11. Give me the over 17 and a half receiving yards for Mr. Gentee.
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Despite the debut of Quinnen Williams. The total for this guy still really high 50 and a half points and for that reason I'm going to take the under. The Raiders the under has hit in six of their nine games this year. I do think Quinn and will help them slow down the run, which is something they hadn't been able to do. It's a lot of points and there's good reason to think the Cowboys can get them there. But it takes two to tango. I will take the under.
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It does in fact take two to tango. All right, listen, that music means it's closing time. You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here. For Jay and Connor, I'm Matthew. Hope your Monday night miracles come through. We'll see you tomorrow. Peace out.
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