← Fantasy Football Happy Hour with Matthew Berry
Fantasy Football Happy Hour with Matthew Berry
Week 13 Takeaways: Chuba Hubbard, Bucky Irving, Justin Jefferson + Justin Herbert injured
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December 1: Matthew (@MatthewBerryTMR), Jay (@croucherJD), and Connor (@ConnorJRogers) recap player performances in Rams-Panthers, Texans-Colts, Commanders-Broncos, Cardinals-Bucs, Vikings-Seahawks, and Raiders-Chargers. The guys also highlight injuries to Justin Herbert and Amon-Ra St. Brown, big days from A.J. Brown and Kyle Monangai, and unveil their favorite bets in Giants-Patriots.
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Okay, okay. Here's the thing though, okay, Before I get into all this stuff, guys, they still haven't seen our best football yet. All right, we're gonna put this thing together, but it's about how we battle. So we have 164 on the ground balance.
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A
Okay.
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B
Made our plays on third down. Koker made some plays. Your quarterback. Your quarterback 15 22:06 pre touchdown. 137.1 rating. That's career high right there. But the bottom line is we just fight. We don't know how to do anything else but just keep fighting and we always finish. Cuz that's who we are. Beautiful day.
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Let's go. Fantasy football happy hour with Matthew Barry.
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C
Welcome to the Fantasy football happy hour. A happy Monday and a happy Panthers locker room.
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D
Yeah.
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A
They pounded.
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C
They were.
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They. They kept pounding. They started pounding and then they kept pounding. Exactly. They finished. It's unbelievable. Great job by the Carolina Panthers. What a win by them. Cokeheads unite. By the way, one of the heroes of the Carolina Panthers. Of your Carolina Panthers.
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Seven and six Carolina Panthers.
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C
They might need to be with the way the Colts are doing.
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It's unbelievable. They could be. They could be 3 and 10 and no one would rat a mileage. But they're 7 and 6. Oh my goodness.
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C
It's unbelievable. Matthew's favorite coach in the NFL. Dave Canales. The notable fantasy performance performances. Yes, Bryce Young at the top, but not far down the board is a resurgent Chuba Hubbard. We got to hear from Chuba after the game on him getting closer and closer to feeling 100%.
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D
Obviously, earlier in the season. I just want to play for my team. I want to help my team win. I want to be a part of their success and be there for them no matter what. I've been on the field where I'm like 30%, 40%, but I just told myself, if I can play football, no matter how that is, I'm going to go out there and do that. So that's kind of my thought process when it came to that. Last week was probably my first time feeling like kind of myself again, able to get the ball a couple times. And this week I'm starting to feel good as well. So just going to keep trying to get back to 100% and getting back to me.
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C
Chubby magic. Back to fantasy relevance here.
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Yeah, the chubbler. The chubbler. The secondary. The secondary. Chubbler. And then he was the OG and then he went back to secondary now. Yeah, exactly. But either way, like, it was great to see this. 19 touches at the season high. First game with more than double. First game with double to the touches since week eight here, Jay. And he played 58% of the snaps. That's the most. The two things that are most important to me Is he played 58% of the snaps. He was effective. And, oh, by the way, he looked like Chuba Hubbard. He looked like the guy that was his fantasy superstar last year. He ran well. He caught the ball. A nice touchdown there as well. He's the fifth best running back in fantasy enter into Monday night. Now, there's. They're on a buy next week, but it does feel a little changing of the guard. You don't want to be too reactionary, but the. The difference here is that in addition to Hubbard ramping up, Jay, it feels like Rico Dowdle has started to come back to earth.
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E
Yeah. So there's two things. Zvad makes the point. Has the small Chubb taken over this backfield?
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I know that he's a small Chubb. He's just, you know, he's a. He's a younger Chubb.
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C
Medium Chubb. Yeah, we have medium show. We have medium Chefs have the medium Chubby.
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D
Sure.
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Y. Exactly.
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E
Yeah. So I think the thing is with the Panthers, there's not buying into any indicators around the Panthers being real until we see it over a sustained sample like Tedro McMillan was going like 8 for 132 weeks ago. Now he's just not part of the offense at all. He had one catch on the week, fourth down. Yeah, fourth and two miracle touchdown. That was his one catch for the whole day. Nothing about this team makes sense and that's how they're 7 and 6. I don't know what they're doing on offense week to week. And by the way, we could have a chubby Super Bowl, Texans, Panthers, San Francisco, two surging teams above.500. It's unbelievable. But yeah, I think that Chiphoht is the guy you want for now in that backfield. But watch it flip back after the buy.
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Yeah, I mean they're on a. Exactly. They're on a buy this week. Then they come back really nice schedule. Actually they're at New Orleans, home to Tampa Bay, then home to Seattle. And by really nice schedule, I mean nice for their opponents. It's not good for fantasy if I'm being honest with you. Like a good matchup against, against the Saints. They do play Tampa Bay twice now down the stretch they will be able to control their own destiny here as you see buccaneers in week 18. But for our purposes it's that really that week 15 in the fantasy playoffs and then it gets tougher right then you got the Bucs and your home at least their two home games, the Bucs and the Seahawks. This is an impressive performance. It just feels like Hubbard and Dowdle are going to be flex plays that you're hoping for a touchdown during the fantasy playoffs. Again we'll have more, we'll have more, more of a sample size and get a better sense of it after that week 15 against the Saints. I think first week of the playoffs you're likely starting both guys as flexes in the Saints unless we get news between now and then. But then two tough run defenses in Tampa Bay and Seattle to finish out the rest of the rest of the season there as well. But it just again snap rate for Rico Doddle has decreased in three straight games he had a 45% rush rate that was his lowest since week eight he's been under three, under 3.3 yards per carry and three of the last four here. Conor. And the most important thing is I get what Jay saying like it's so up and down but this was a hell of a win for the Carolina Panthers. For all the fun we have with Carolina, the Rams were the hottest team in the NFL. Panther Panthers are traveling cross country in a short Week they were in San Francisco for Monday Night Football. Then they have to travel back to Carolina on a short week against arguably the hottest team in the NFL and they took it to him that I mean, by the way, no JC Horn in this game. They were down a couple of defensive starters as well. Like it's a hell of a win for Carolina.
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Yeah.
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C
They forced three turnovers against a quarterback that never turns over the ball. Two picks in the fumble as well. So I mean the fact that they can. It's also played to their script. Right, Their script. And Bryce Young, by the way, 8:10 on third and fourth downs, like that's not their script.
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The two touchdowns were fourth down touchdowns.
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C
Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The Cokeheads unite. And T. Mac, as you said, Jay bailed out his day. So that's a little glass half full, glass half empty because the target share plummeted for him in this game.
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Yeah. I think also the other thing, like very impressive win. Impressive. They put themselves in a spot to win that game. But at the same time they went 3 for 3 on fourth down. They had a plus 3 turnover margin. They destroyed the Rams on third down on both sides of the ball as a comparison there. So it's like the type of recipe where the underdog, the ten point dog wins. Particularly replicable. But they bank the win and they move on. But yeah, I just think that ultimately the one thing that I feel confident within this Panthers offense is that Dave Canales does not want to put the ball in Bryce Young's hands unless he has to. So they're going to be a run first offense and then when they have to throw they will. But for the most part I don't, I think T. Mac, I think his median outcome week to week is going to be like 4 for 55 type of games. Like the idea that he was going to be a wide receiver, one which I thought was in play after the 8 for 130 game against the Falcons. I just don't think Bryce is good enough.
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They're a young team. They're a young team that has some talent efficiencies but they're playing above their heads. Credit to coach Canales and they're in, they're legitimately in the playoff mix. It's being a young team, they're going to be. Right, they are. Exactly. But being a young team, they're going to be inconsistent again. They're on a buy next week so we'll talk about them more probably in two weeks and there'll be a couple of players we'll talk about tomorrow. I am sure but either way the Panthers kept pounding and then banged out a win so well done to Carolina our next game.
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C
The Texans with a massive, massive win over the Colts in this one. Jay, things are starting to spiral a little bit. Sauce Gardner hurt. Daniel Jones clearly playing hurt.
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By the way, there's no takeaway. There's no takeaway from the Rams. Like it's just a bad day at the offense. By the way we moved off that.
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C
Quick catches touchdowns in his sleep.
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On we go. Puka Nakua had the catch of the year for about four hours.
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C
Yep. And we'll get to the other catch of the year, don't worry. But not yet.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a good question. Art Vandelay latex Art Vandelet latex Styles. That's a good point. Well done Vandelay Industries. I can't wait for Jay to turn to the excusler when reflecting on the Colts game. Or does he jump over to the Jags? It's a good question. Jay, your loyalty for the ones will be tested here. You have previously been a Colts man. You were for the shoe but this has been a tough run here for your for your Colts.
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No, no. Stick and chubby with the Colts. I don't like the Jacks. This team's not that good. They're the 15th best team in football.
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C
Like the BE. They're the number one seed in the NFC.
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Kind of like there's the Bears. That's kind of I'm a Packers man. I'm a Jordan Love man. Jordan Love's been in my stable for a long time. This is like the high point. Could be the one seed. Jordan Love. Yeah. So here's the takeaway for the Colts. So I will be the excuse Love because I came away and it's going to sound strange because they lost this 3 point favorite so now they're in trouble for the division. But I was encouraged by how Daniel Jones looked because the way this season was going to completely fall apart for Indianapolis was if Jones was just a zero and he couldn't move. He wasn't the problem yesterday. Jones, I mean the thing is that he's not running. There was no scrambling at all. They worried enough about his leg that they brought in Tyler Warren to do the fourth down sneak which he promptly fumbled. But I thought Jones throwing the ball against what is maybe the best defense in football. I thought he was fine. The Colts lost the game so they have any pass rush but they were in position enough on offense to win that game, it's just they shot themselves in the foot repeatedly. But Jones looked okay and that's the main thing. Their offensive line has kind of fallen off a cliff the past month and that's become an issue. But for the most part, I think fantasy wise, Alec Pierce is clearly the guy that you want in this receiver room. Tyler Warren will have better days. He was questionable with an illness. He just didn't look right. Michael Pittman is the concern where if this isn't going to be the best offense in football, super explosive, then maybe Matthew there's an odd enough turkey to go around to satisfy all three of Pierce, Warren and Pittman. Not to speak of Josh Downs as well.
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Yeah, right. Third straight game with under 30 receiving yards. In games in which Michael Pittman does not score a touchdown this year he's averaging 7.7 fantasy points per game. It's so weird because previously Michael Pittman in previous years was just sort of a floor guy who would always get a bunch of targets but just, you know, wasn't a big touchdown score. This year he's been a big touchdown scorer. But then when he's not, he's not getting the volume that we've seen previously with Pittman as well. It's weird we always say this about like, oh, this guy's a touchdown dependent tight end. Michael Pittman is a touchdown dependent wide receiver. So it's just sort of on a weekly basis. How lucky do you feel? Because as we enter Monday Night Football, Michael Pittman is wide receiver 81 this week again, he's averaging under eight fantasy points a game in games in which he doesn't score a touchdown. Third straight game with under 30 yards. Daniel Jones now fourth straight game with under 17 fantasy points. Since week nine, he's QB17 on a points per game basis. I think what this game did and admittedly they're playing the Texans, which is as good a defense as there is in the NFL. So you sort of right it away a little bit. But again we just, we haven't seen it. Jonathan Taylor's second straight game that they can't really get him going, which is concern. But I feel like moving forward now they play Jacksonville or on the road at Jacksonville, which has been a problem area for them. The Colts have struggled on the road at Jacksonville even when, even in years in which Jacksonville is terrible and the Colts were decent, like they always lose at Jacksonville, it feels like this is a huge game. In Week 14 they got a Week 18 game at these Texans again, but jags in two of the next four. You see it there on your screen. Week 15 at the Seahawks. Week 16, home to the Niners. The schedule is not favorable. It's a challenging here. All I was going to say is moving forward, I think you're starting Jonathan Taylor every week. Obviously you're starting Tyler Warren every week. You know, I do think Pierce has made himself a rock solid wide receiver. 3. But the rest, I think it sort of depends on who else you have in the matchup. I mean, I think Pittman has gone from must start to let's see what the matchup is and what else you have.
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Yep, we'll say. I mean, this Sunday's gonna be super interesting against the Jags. The week after at Seattle is brutal. I think you feel really good about the Colts home to San Francisco and home to the Jags in 16 and 17. And then week 18 at the Texans. Potentially for the division will be massive. But yeah, we'll see with Indianapolis. They were completely screwed by the refs in this one too. Delay a game followed by phantom PI on Kenny Moore. If the refs are doing their jobs, the Colts probably win. So we move forward.
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The excuse was a disgrace. It was, I had to say, seconds pass away game.
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And then there was no PI. Didn't even touch him.
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No. I know the refs had a bad day at the office. There's no question in this one. And then the extra point, I think was. Was. Was questionable there as well. The refs definitely had a very tough game in the Texans Colts games. Chris Sims specifically call them out on football night in America.
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That's why I like Chris Simms.
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There you go. But on the Houston side of the ball here, Nico Collins suddenly started to become that wide receiver, one that we thought he was going to be, that we drafted him to be. Gets a rushing touchdown here. Stroud looks better. They got the ball. Tough loss for Sauce Gardner there for the Colts on the Colts side of the ball. Losing sauce here. But Connor, what did you see out of this run game here? Woody marks third straight game with 17 touches. But like so he continues to get work and continues not to produce.
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Right. It's just. It's volume based is this run game. The line's still not very good. Stroud after the interception was really good yesterday. He was more short area surgical as we would call it. Which helps Nico Collins because Nico can hit the big play, but he could also eat you up underneath. But the run game is just not spectacular. It's more of they lean on it, to be honest, with their offense. But you don't get explosive runs. It's just all volume yardage and no touchdowns.
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Woody Marks left this game briefly with an injury and then in up coming back here. The crazy part to me is that he has a 3% target share. Woody Marks was supposed to be the pass catching running back and they're just not using him in the passing game as well. He hasn't had a double digit target share since week eight. He's got only three games for the year with 70 or more scrimmage yards. Nick Chubb, the original Chubb, the big Chubb, he got the, he got into the end zone. So he cashes in there. It's just a, like, I think the Texans are like a. Other than Nico Collins, I'd argue the best asset, the best fantasy asset on the Texans is their defense. Is their defense. It's like when you start, you know, for leagues that play defense, Dalton Schultz.
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Is the other guy that Stroud. You know, you usually have a floor with Schultz. Yeah.
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Like if you need nine points at tight end, he could usually get you the nine points.
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I feel like I know exactly what C.J. stroud is now too. He's like rich man's Trevor Lawrence. Like he's always gonna have that one crazy pick. Like the pick was awful yesterday, just sailed for no reason. But other than that, very solid. Good. He's an above average quarterback who's not in the top tier.
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I think, I think we're going to look in two years and I think C.J. stroud and Bryce Young are to be much closer together than. Bryce Young had a nice game again, 15 to 20, like, again.
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I'm old enough to remember what Bryce Young did on Monday Night Football in San Francisco.
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I get it, I get it. I'm just, I'm just saying, like, I think that still if you were redrafting for the NFL today, you'd take Stroud over Young. But I just, I think the gap between them is much closer than it was, than it was looking like in the first six games of the rookie season.
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It's not an embarrassing gap like it once was. By the way, producer Steven tried to start a Duval chant in the chat and Cobra Kiger just tagged him and said, jags stink.
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Yeah, I mean, exactly. Well, I'd love the Colts to win on Sunday.
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A lot of accusations. You have traffic court today. Like multiple accusations.
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So after. So a little inside baseball after this. Matthew and I are going to film a Little Commercial for DraftKings for Texans Chief Sunday Night Football. I'll be Dressed like this professionally. Matthew's going to wear a Bijan Robinson jersey for the raw Chiefs.
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We don't know why either. They lost yesterday.
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He was. He was the greatest fantasy performer on Sunday. A.J. brown had the most fantasy points this week, but Bijan Robinson finally got into the end zone. Bijan Robinson had a great fantasy day on Mondays, especially on Mondays when my commanders don't win. And I can wear a Jaden Daniel.
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Perfect outcome for you commanders because you want to lose for draft position. And they showed up and they played really well.
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Yeah, 1,000%. It was. You never like to say we'll get to that game in a second. You never want to say moral victory, but it was on some levels a moral victory. Like they. They haven't quit on Dan Quinn. I thought it was. You know, it was. I thought Mario to play well, whatever. We'll get into that game in a minute. But anyway. Or are we there? I guess we're there. I guess we are there. We are there. I guess we can. We can move on. Yeah. Here's what I will say about. Say about my commanders is that I thought Mariota played Mario Tuh. Yeah.
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That's the talk of town.
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We got got instruct. I'm just gonna. Because everyone's asking about this. I was literally told by NBC brass to pronounce with a T. Somebody reached out and said told us you're following instructions.
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Yeah.
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You don't do that on this show.
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No, whatever.
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This is a time where maybe you shouldn't instructions.
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Marcus Mario T. We were told that it's important to put the pronunciation on the T. I guess somebody from his camp. I don't know. Beats the hell out of me.
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Is he from Sicily? What's going on here?
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You know what? I just work here, but I thought he about as well as you could ask for a backup to play, especially against one of the better defenses in the NFL. They played really well. You know, Bo Nix over on the passing yards. Cash best bet cash. We're happy about that as well. The Broncos did not contain him, which killed my parlay. I had under in his rushing yards as one of the legs of my parlay. And Marcus Mariota ran all over him here. But on the commander side of the ball, I think the biggest story here is obviously a huge game for Zach Ertz continues to be sort of, you know, a rich man's Dalton Schultz. You know.
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I feel like they're in the same tier.
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So that's the same Dalton Schultz East. He's just basically Dalton Schultz. But Just, you know, closer to the Atlantic. Yeah. Slightly older Dalton Schultz here, but it's good to see Terry McLaurin come back. He's now had six end zone targets the last two games. You know, you could just see a difference when he was out there for.
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C
This, the entire offense. Right.
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Debo has the big catch at the end as well. Look, fine. I mean, the thing is, is that this offense has always been well schemed and they have weapons and they have speed and Mario Tarr has shown that he can operate off. The Vikings win the Super Bowl. If they had Marcus Mariota this year, like every quarterback I watch, every backup quarterback who comes in and can tie their own shoes, like, wow, what if you're on the Vikings? Davis Mills. Could the Vikings win the division? Yeah. What's the bar? Yeah, we'll see. Now, is Jayn Daniels going to play next week?
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See, I don't think so, but again, I've been, I've been consistent in this and I could easily be wrong on this. I'll say this, I don't want him to play next week. We're 3 and 9 like the season's over.
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C
A couple feel good wins.
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Make your draft. We don't need any. I'd rather the better draft pick. I'd rather the better draft pick to get us help on both sides of the line and, you know, get it some secondary help. Look, they have given themselves an out.
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Which is like the reporting. There have been outs like, he doesn't. He's done a hard 100. Yeah, they're not going to come back until right there.
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He's not going to come back until he can do everything.
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And so like, whereas Burrow was like, no, he'll be coming back. And also the Bengals afc, you're back. They're two games out.
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I can't believe you tore up all those tickets. No, no, no.
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They're still there somewhere they're hidden, but they're still there. The thing is with Washington, I think that Mario Tar has shown enough that you can feel relatively confident when the matchup is favorable enough. With Debo, with McLaren, who's going to continue to ramp up and with Earth as a, you know, low end, startable tight end, the running backs you don't feel good about necessarily.
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Yeah, I mean, Chris Rodriguez got, you know, if you had to start a Washington running back, it's Chris Rodriguez. They didn't use McNichols or not because they were basically in this game the entire way. And so, you know, Rodriguez catch cashes in the touchdown but you know, they're using McNichols and Jakory Crosby merit bill enough that you don't feel great about about Chris Rodriguez. And you look at their upcoming schedule, they're at Minnesota next week. Oh, man, oh man. Then they're at the Giants. Okay, decent. Home to Philadelphia, home to Dallas, an improving Dallas and obviously Philadelphia. So like, it's not a great. It's not a schedule that you feel great about. Like you can run on Philly. We'll talk about that in a second. But you can run on the Giants. So I think, you know, Rodriguez is basically a hope for a touchdown flex play at this point. But the passing game you feel good about. Across the board, you feel good about McLaurin, Debo and Zach Ertz, regardless of who's under center for Washington. Other side of the ball are the Denver's the worst 102 team in the history of the NFL.
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E
Remember when the Steelers with Roethlisberg started off 110 and it was like team 11 and 0, that team's up. They're probably better than this Broncos team, though. Bonix just isn't that good.
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C
Well, this was the inverse Bonix game. He was bad. He was good for three quarters and awful in the fourth when most games have been the. The other way around.
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E
Yeah, well, they're. They win next week, so. Because they play the right.
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They are.
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C
And Sean Payton doesn't seem to be bothered by it, at least externally. RJ Harvey, goal line back as we all expected.
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RJ Harvey, yeah, I mean he got 100% of the goal to go rushing attempts. He got 80% of the team's red zone attempts. So all those things are positive, but no heavy meat sauce. I do not think Harvey is locked in as an RB2 moving to the playoffs. Like he bailed you out with the touchdowns, which you're happy about, but he 13 for 35, you know, I'm like, you know, three for 27.
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E
Like against the Commanders.
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Yeah, against the Commanders. But I mean like his rushing line was 56 and a half. He fell short of that. His rushing and receiving total, I think was 75 and a half. He fell short of that. It just like he should have been able to do better than, I mean 13 for 35 is not good.
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C
The thing is too, I put some of it just on like we always blame the line in the game. There was a couple times last night he did this a lot in college where downhill run the hole is there. He cut it wide and he's tackled at the line of Scrimmage, he bounces runs that are five or six yard carries into no yard carries. And I know he has explosive playability and there's a lot of good with him, but that was really frustrating as well.
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In the two games since J.K. dobbins went down, he's averaging 2.7 yards per carry. He's 24 for 55. Like that's not good. So again, he's bailing you out with the touchdowns and I think that will continue because I think it's an offense that's fairly efficient and does seem like they like him in the red zone and so they'll continue to use him. But I think. Is he a locked in RB2? No, I think he's a. I think he's a shaky flex that needs a touchdown.
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E
Yeah, I like him in the red zone because he can't bounce outside for trying to hunt 50 yarders, I guess.
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A
I mean it's a weird one. It was nice to see Cortland Sutton get off the schneide here as well. His best fantasy game since week five, you know, but just a 14% target share. You know, the touchdown pass to him was actually a brilliant play by Bo Nixon as well. Troy Franklin doesn't do much like look, the Commanders, it's weird for a game that you know, where the scores was in the 30s. Like I thought the Commanders actually played pretty good defense here, especially given, you know, given all the givens that they're not very good on defense.
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C
So the difference with Dan Quinn calling the reins again, you really can. They don't have a lot of talent. Yeah, but they were schematically a lot better. By the way, we can't forget the most important thing in this game. Yeah, the Traylon Burks.
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A
Yeah. First off, Traylon Burks. For people who didn't. Oh well, that's where Traylon Brooks is. I think most people thought he'd retired. Not in the league. Exactly. Goodbye, Robbie. Chosen. Hello. Traylon Burks. You drink for free with a catch of the year. I know it wasn't a losing effort, but honestly like Connor, real quickly, Traylon Burks out of Arkansas, right?
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E
Yeah.
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This is a kid that like was drafted by Tennessee, if I remember correctly, was drafted by Tennessee. They trade away A.J. brown because they, they wanted Traylon Burks and so just it was just obviously a tough, tough couple of years in Tennessee. He's dealt with injuries.
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That's the story. He's just been hurt constantly. Yeah. Big bodied wide receiver, vertical threat. You could see how he could play above the rim, the spectacular plays. There's no consistency with him. So it's good to see him have that moment because Tennessee is. It was just defined by constantly being hurt every time they felt like they got some momentum with him.
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And I always felt like just it was like had no fault of his own, but it's just like they traded away AJ Brown for a first round pick to draft him. And so he's always going to be compared to A.J. brown. Like, why didn't wait. Why don't we just keep AJ Brown who is so much better than Traylon Burks and again, Brooks wasn't. So I always felt bad from that anyway. So it was just nice to see him get like a, you know, a moment in the sun. And by the way, a completely legitimate moment in the sun because it was an unbelievable catch. Just absolutely amazing. And one of the many bright spots for Washington, I agree with you, is a. It was as good an outcome as we could have hoped for because we're not going anywhere. So at least we lost with pride. And I'll just say this, as a Commander's fan, I'm glad we went for two. It didn't work out.
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That's the right move.
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It was the right move. It didn't work out. We had the right play called. Mariota needs to throw it higher. Guy was wide open.
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C
And that's that. Mario, what are you gonna do?
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Mario Tuff doesn't get it done. Doesn't get it done.
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This is the last time I'm talking about this game. All right. The Bucks hold on against Arizona. Much needed win for the Bucs. They were on a three game losing streak. Bucky Irving welk him back. Dominates the backfield touches. So good for Bucky. But the Mecca Buka, you know, downswing here continues, guys. And Chris Godwin back in some capacity.
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Emekar Buka, he's had one good game in six weeks. It just doesn't feel like he gets open.
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C
But he's had some loud drops.
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E
Yes.
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C
Where you're like that.
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A
But like it's not fluky.
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Yeah.
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He is dropping plays that can make a difference.
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He's got a lot of targets. He gets the targets. He just hasn't been.
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Yeah. I mean since week seven he's had a 29% target share. And yet to your point about the drops, a 42% catch rate. That is not good since week 70s. Wide receiver, 36. He's a wide receiver for over the last couple of weeks here for a Mecca Buca under. He's had single digit fantasy points in five of the past six games. Like he's no longer a must start moving forward. I think he's a. He's on that wide receiver 3, 4 border. It hasn't helped that Baker's been banged up and they've had some tough matchups here. Arizona is not a. It's not a case. Their secondary is pretty good.
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C
They play close games. Yeah. More often than not. I know the Seattle one kind of got out of control, but they'll play up with anyone and they unfortunately play down to anybody.
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Probably should have won this game. The Bucks didn't play particularly well. The underlying stuff I think was a bit more favorable to Arizona. But I think the big news to Tampa Bay is just Bucky Irving's workload. The fact that he looked like Bucky Irving back to clearly being his backfield as an RB1 type.
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Tampa Bay had 26 running back touches in this game. Bucky Irving got 19 of them. You know Sean Tucker, just an afterthought thought. Rashad White plays 37% of the snaps and for Bucky Irving's first game back, you know he got the majority of the work here. He's. It's clearly backed how it was at the beginning of the season, which is. It's all Bucky Irving. He's the only Buccaneers running back you want to start as long as he is healthy on the Arizona side of the ball. Once again, like you know Jacoby Brissette, top 12 quarterback. Like that's his full name. As we head to Monday Night Football. He's the ninth best quarterback in fantasy this week. Which means he will finish yet again another week as a top 12 fantasy quarterback. Regardless of what Drake May and Jackson Dart do tonight. At least 18 fantasy points in all seven of his start this season since taking over as the starter, Jay, he's averaging 312 passing yards a game. That is most in the NFL.
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Yeah, he is who everyone wants Joe Flacco to be. Jacoby Brissette, he just. It is a skill to be able to compile this much yardage. Now I understand there's mistakes in there and that's the reason why he's not an elite quarterback, but the man shown that he can pile up yards and his favorable matchup against the Bucs defense. But still, I mean this is. It's kind of a fantasy. It has been a fantasy dream because the Cardinals defense had been so banged up they were playing in these shootouts. Now that the Cardinals actually have their players back in the secondary that probably goes away a little bit and he becomes a bit more matchup dependent. But I mean they have confidence in him dropping back a ton. He didn't have 47 completions this time around, but he had 29. And they've got weapons. They have guys get open and he gets them the ball. He is like a. I don't know who. He's like Jeff Supart. He's an innings with yards.
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C
Jeff Supan.
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A
Yeah, Jeff.
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F
Super.
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E
I know Jeff watches the show.
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A
Yeah, exactly.
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C
Plus that was 101.
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Yeah, exactly. The cash like a young Steve Traxel. Another. Another innings.
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E
We've actually mentioned him on the show this year already. Yes. Steve Traxel, kind of insane for him.
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A
That's how I believe they may have.
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E
Started against each other in the 2006 NLCS.
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Jeff Supine's a great call, but I always just when for whatever reason, Steve Traxel is always like the my go to eater. Like just that's the guy that I always think of.
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C
Like that's on and on.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Just always, always around. Just always starts.
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A
Yeah, just exactly.
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C
Back then there was no pitch counts constantly out there to die and go on with the game. You lose seven of five.
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A
There you go. Exactly.
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C
All right, we got some action here in the chat. This one from Trish Skidney. Skidney not kidney. Wilson or Godwin rest of the year.
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Obviously it's either Trish Skidney or Trish's kidney.
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C
I like Trish's kidney better.
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A
Yeah.
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By the way, Connie, you missed yesterday, but Matthew tried to give Marvin Harrison a kidney injury when it was an appendix injury. He was lying like Marvin Harrison lost his kidneys. Yeah. After retiring Matthew Stafford and Travis Kelsey, he's now retiring.
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C
He moves on to somebody.
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E
It's unbelievable.
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Look, look, everyone knows I don't do research, all right?
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E
Wilson or Godwin for the rest of the year.
- [30:36]
C
With Marv back, it was a big turn for Michael Wilson.
- [30:40]
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It was. Now Marvin Harrison leaves this game again. Like, you know, so prior to Marvin Harrison leaving, Michael Wilson had a 12 and a half percent target share, his lowest since week seven. I'm gonna assuming Marvin Harrison is back next week. I'm going to say Chris Godwin. Like, I just feel like eventually he'll get healthier.
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C
They need him right now.
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A
They need him.
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Yeah, they really need him.
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And I think especially given the fact that it feels like Habuka has sort of maybe hit a rookie wall, that you feel better about Godwin down the stretch than Wilson overtaking both McBride and Harrison, but it's close. And that sort of Trish, that sort of gives you an idea of what we're talking about here. But I don't know. There's a chance that Harrison misses more time again. He left this game with an injury. We'll get more updates as the week goes on as well.
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C
Two minutes ago, Todd Bolz said it's a possibility that Mike Evans could return to practice this week.
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A
Wow. Yeah. Excellent. Mike Evans, another guy that I've dropped in the league of a holes, is Igbuka.
- [31:42]
E
Almost a drop. If Evans comes back healthy, I guess you give him one week.
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A
Yeah. I think you want to see what sort of plays out there because there's a scenario where, you know, a book who's been getting more defensive attention now gets less. And maybe that, you know, because he was productive at the beginning of the year when Evans was out there.
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E
Yeah. There's just like there's a chance that he could be this wide receiver. 3. In an offense that suddenly isn't very explosive.
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A
Very true. I think it's a wait and see. But I'm not. I'm not proactively dropping a book. I want to see sort of how it all plays out. Also, you know, Baker's playing out there on one shoulder. Like, hopefully he gets a little bit healthier as the week goes on.
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E
Seems like he gets kidneys still intact, but one shoulder.
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A
Yes, one shoulder, both kidneys. Last thing I just want to mention from this game very quickly was Bam Knight. You know, since week six, he's averaging basically 13 touches a game. It's his third straight game with a touchdown since week 11. Randomly. Bam Knight is the 13th best running back in fantasy football. And so, like, he's been former Jet great. Bam Knight here.
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C
Connor Rogers, Lions and Jets, I believe.
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E
Brother of Adebayer.
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D
Yeah.
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Let me tell you something. Bam Night certainly doesn't feel like RB13 in that time. I would have guessed RB24.
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Yeah. But my point is, is, like, the Micardo's banged up. Who knows if Benson ever comes back.
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C
That's the weird one.
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That's the weird one, right?
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C
I mean, we thought he'd be back three weeks ago.
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E
This Cardinals theme is so strange.
- [33:03]
C
Yeah. But they are, like, dangerously fantasy relevant.
- [33:07]
E
Oh, yeah.
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A
Oh, yeah.
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C
You have to sift through the muck and utilize this. It is whoever their top wide receiver is is really good. Ray McBride's a monster. Jacoby Brissette's getting it done. And apparently Bam Knight is the top 15 running.
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E
I'm just.
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I'm just saying, like if it doesn't feel like Benson's coming back anytime soon, Ricardo's banged up. Michael Carter, whatever. Like it. Lord help us all. But Bam Knight is like a viable running back too, in fantasy until further notice. So just want to say that their schedule is. I will say before you go crazy, Rams, Texans, Falcons are their next three. All very good run defenses. And then they get Cincinnati in week 17. So just. Anyway, something to think about.
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C
All right, I will.
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A
That's all I'm saying. Yes, just consider it. Mull it over.
- [33:53]
C
I'll let you know tomorrow.
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A
Yeah, we'll talk about Bam night tomorrow. I am sure. Sorry. I've just been stalling, trying to not talk about this next game Here we.
- [34:02]
C
Have to look at the fantasy board. How many times do we show a fantasy board and nobody made it to 12 points?
- [34:07]
A
Right? Vikings and Seahawks. For people listening at home, Vikings and Seahawks was just a wasteland of fantasy ineptitude. Absolutely brutal when TJ Hawkinson is your highest fantasy scorer at 11.9 fantasy points. Zac Charbonnet, of course, once again falls to the end zone because Ken Walker cannot buy a touchdown. Sharbs gets there as well.
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I think the defining thing of this game was that Fox had this graphics package lined up about JSN's amazing season and he told Joe Davis, is it easy to get to it? They didn't get to it in the second half. He's never catched until then. There's just nothing.
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Absolutely brutal.
- [34:42]
E
I've thought all season, like the Seals don't have any other past game weapons. Why don't they just double. Why do the opponents double JSN in every play?
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C
Right.
- [34:49]
E
And it felt like the Vikings were doing that. And sure enough, he does nothing. Now it doesn't really help it matter, 26 to nothing, but do you think there's something teams are going to do going forward?
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Yeah, but I don't.
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C
I don't think it'll just eliminate him. The script of this game was a joke.
- [35:02]
E
Yeah.
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C
Like it was a complete joke.
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A
It was. I will say this, like again, I'm going to butcher some of this, but I was talking with Dev McCourty last night about this exact thing. I'm like, I don't understand why teams aren't just. Why haven't teams doing that? He goes. He goes. The problem is, is because there's some teams in terms of their scheme, in terms of what they run that in order to. If they're like, if they're primarily a zone team or whatever Then all of a sudden say, hey, we need to bracket this guy. It just makes everything break down. And he just like. He's just like. It's not as easy as just saying ok, this week we're going to. We're going to double Jackson, Smith and jig. But he's just like, I think they've had a good run of. I don't want to. You know, Devin will be able to express how he feels. I don't want to. But just the idea basically to do that though. Correct. That's what I'm saying. He was just saying that some of the defenses they faced are not built to shut JSN down. And by the way, JSN obviously has had a great year and has done a lot but he just said yes, Flores defense was built to sort of do that. They also obviously faced Sam Darnold in practice all last year. So they knew exactly sort of what to do with him as well. And so obviously look at the reason the Vikings lost that game had nothing to do with the Vikings defense. They played very, very well.
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Yep. Absolutely.
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A
Yeah.
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Tough saint from.
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C
Money 44 goes Brosmer. Can't be worse than JJ. Yes, he can.
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I'm not convinced by the way, like that. Hang on that first. Your first start is on the road at Seattle. They don't.
- [36:25]
C
Brutal spot to be in Seattle.
- [36:26]
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Brutal spot.
- [36:27]
C
Mike McDonald is going to. He stood no chance.
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Yeah, I mean but do you. In all seriousness, if J.J. mcCarthy were in that same spot, do you think the outcome would have been any different?
- [36:36]
C
Maybe there's not the falling Ernest. Pick six.
- [36:40]
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That was a. That was a bad play.
- [36:41]
E
Please refer to it by its proper name. It's the Levis.
- [36:44]
C
It really was. It really was. But that other than that.
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Yeah, I mean I'm not convinced that JJ McCarthy is significantly better than Max Brosmer. Bad day at the office for Max Brosmer. That's an impossible situation to start. I'm not convinced that Brosmer is better than JJ McCarthy either. The whole thing's just.
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C
Well, their quarterback situation from Wentz to JJ to him, it's just a disaster.
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A
The whole thing, it has sunk this.
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C
Team and fantasy wise it has sunk Justin Jefferson. Yes, that's low four receiving yards.
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Fourth straight game with under 12 fantasy points since week 10. He's wide receiver 58. This is the guy that produced with Josh Dobbs with Nick Mullins like that is produced with everyone and for some reason they can't figure out how to get 18 the ball. It's unbelievable to me moving forward I mean Justin Jefferson is like a shaky wide receiver. 3. I talked about this last week. I was asked on a radio show. I was on the Fantasy Live SiriusXM show last week I did a segment and they asked me point blank rest of the season who I'd rather have Justin Jefferson or Wandell Robinson.
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E
Well now it's.
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A
And I. Well, but I said that last week.
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C
Go back.
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A
I mean you and I both said that. You both. We said Wandell Robinson.
- [37:49]
E
I said Jefferson. I'm changing my mind.
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A
Yeah, as well you should because. Because I don't know what Wandell Robinson does tonight but I bet you he gets more than four receiving yards. Yes, famous less word. I'll take that bet. Right. Exactly.
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Over three and a half.
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Over three and a half.
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That's my best bet tonight. He'll get cut to me later.
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Right. Justin Jefferson or Jameson Williams rest of the season. Aloha bricks. Weighing in. Oh boy, that's not fun. Can I, can you tell me how, how long I'm on Ross St. Brown before I end. I think he's gonna play.
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E
I think he's.
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That time is back. It's Thursday.
- [38:24]
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The thing is with them on right, he's max. I think he's gonna miss one game because then they have the extended layout. They got like one game in 16 days or whatever. So yeah, I think still probably Justin Jefferson. They play the Commanders next and then they have Dallas, the Giants then Detroit secondary who can't stop anyone either. So I mean it's unbelievable that we're in this situation where the Vikings is Ryan Tannehill. Like is he worse than what they're getting at the quarterback position. Like why can't they find replacement level quarterback play? It's.
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I say Jameson Williams. I'll tell you, I'll tell you why. Because what we saw on Thursday, Jameson Williams has the ability to have a blow up game. Yeah. And I don't think that the barring like basically that he locks into two touchdowns that McCarthy or somebody throws him like a touchdown or two like Jefferson is basically has to become touchdown dependent like he's not going to. This offense is so fractured and the quarterback position is so under siege that you just don't feel good about like him that Jefferson has the ability to have a blow up game. Like what we saw with Jameson Williams. Right. I mean you know like I just.
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C
I feel like it has to be.
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A
Yeah, I think it's, I think it's, I think it's Jamo. He's wide receiver for 79.
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C
Justin Jefferson is totally insane.
- [39:36]
E
Yeah.
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Bonkers.
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C
That's where we are right now. It's not just a one off.
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And the last thing I want to say, two last things. Aaron Jones left this game with a shoulder injury. We'll track that throughout the week as well. Might be a Jordan Mason game against Washington this Sunday. The last thing I want to say here about this game and two things I think are important. Number one is Sam Darnold now hunt under five fantasy points in three of the past four games. Part of the problem is is that they play good defense and they run well. So like. And he's not a guy that runs, so he needs volume to get you there. Now it's, it's been working.
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He needs the bomb place to JSN to hit and if he's not getting 60 yard plays to JSN, then fantasy wise he's not super valuable even though he's playing well.
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That's right. There's not a floor. There's, there's, there's, there's less of a floor with Darnold than there are with other sort of QB1s in that range. And the last thing I just want to say, if we can come to camera one here real quickly for me. Yeah, camera one. I want to address camera one. Camera one. It's my favorite thing. I saw a lot of people, I saw a lot of people on social media complaining about Jackson Smith and Jigba's horrible day fantasy wise as well. 4.3 fantasy points. He's wide receiver 64. As we head into Monday football, here's what I have to say to you guys. Screw you guys. Shut the hell up. You don't get to complain about Jackson Smith and Jigba. Are you kidding me? You've got an unbelievable year. He has massively outperformed adp. Yes, he had a bad day at the office. You don't get to complain. Some of us are out here with Justin Jefferson. Are you kidding me? Do not say one damn word about Jackson Smith and Jigba. You know what you say. Hey, Jackson Smith and Jigba, thank you so much for the entire year. Bad day at the office. Happens to the best of us. Get him next week. That's what you say. Shut the hell up. About your complaints about Jackson Smith and Jigba. I saw people bitching on social media and I'm like, how dare you?
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E
Very loud.
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A
How dare you?
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E
Very loud.
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A
Yes.
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C
Cameron one worthy.
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Yes, thank you. Just wanted to say that it's very important.
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E
It'll toast the Falcons in A dome. And we'll be right back.
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A
Yes, exactly right.
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C
Don't worry, we still have another game. Guys, we cannot leave out Chargers Raiders because we have to talk about the Chargers pass. Yeah, really. Herbert fracture in his hand. Vlad McConkey does enough. Outside of that, Matthew, not much going for Keenan Allen. Not much going for QJ and Aranda Gadsden on under four points.
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A
Yeah, I mean like he got banged up in that game. Third straight game with under seven fantasy points. But keep in mind that he's still getting the targets. Gadsden is his quarterback. Gets hurt in this one. He got hurt, you know, a couple of games ago as well. He's sort of limping through. I'm still sticking by Gadson as a low end tight end one, but QJ and Keenan Allen, like, let's see what happens with if it's going to be Trey Lance or Justin Herbert next week. He's getting surgery on the hand. It's not his throwing hand, but we don't know if Herbert's going to be able to play. Feels like this is the last week of Kymani Vidal. If it is, if Omarion Hampton does come back next week. Salute. Kamani Vidal ends on a strong note here.
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E
He's like the Penthouse Bam Knight.
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A
Yes, exactly.
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C
That's right.
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A
He is. That's right. He is kind of a Penthouse Bam Knight as well. I don't know that you feel great about anyone in this Chargers passing attack because there's sort of four of them and it's been inconsistent. Second bad game in a row for them. But I think you're still starting McConkey. I think you're probably still starting Gadson and then sort of depends on what your options are for QJ and Quinton and Keenan Allen, which I rank in.
- [42:45]
E
That order, feels very fragile for the Chargers right now. Just this offline. They're just tailoring a little.
- [42:50]
C
And Herbert gets hurt every year and to no fault of his own. More often than not he just gets hit so much.
- [42:55]
E
Right.
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A
We'll talk about him tomorrow though. I will say that if Trey Lance becomes the start is the start of this week, he becomes interesting again because the rushing obviously.
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C
How about the week 13 injuries we're watching? We just mentioned Justin Herbert with that fracture in his non throwing hand. Aaron Jones left the game with the shoulder, Dylan Sampson with the calf and Monroe St. Brown with that ankle. He could miss one to two weeks. We'll see how that progresses or does not. Marvin Harrison Jr. With a heel injury and Parker Washington with a hip injury. We're going to take our first break. When we're back, we got weekend warriors and Sunday Scaries after this. But the poll says who is the better. Excuse lur Matthew winning 75%228 votes.
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A
Yeah, it's fine. You know what? If it's a poll between me and Jay and the question of who's the better blank, the answer's always me. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what the last word is.
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E
Just win on Sunday Indianapolis. Just win the football game.
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A
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E
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D
Find right now for you guys? Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean anything can get better. Just having a positive attitude towards it, you know, and really focus on it and continue chipping away, you know. So I said last game like we got the right people in this locker room to get it fixed. And so I believe that remaining positive and coming to work now with a trip on your shoulder to get it better, to get it fixed, you know, through having those conversations that need to be had and just keep going. Keep chopping wood and carrying water, man.
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A
Weekend warriors.
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C
That was A.J. brown at the top. Keep chopping wood and carrying water.
- [46:43]
A
He was smiling though. He's a happy A.J. brown. Well, you know why?
- [46:47]
C
Targets.
- [46:47]
A
Yeah, of course. Exactly. I was like he was very upset after the wins when but he when he didn't get any work saved.
- [46:53]
E
All the Eagles need to do is run their offense for A.J. brown. They get a great result.
- [46:59]
C
Vibes are back for one player.
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It's, it's all of it. So weird. But the greasy wheel stuff has worked in the case of A.J. brown. Back to back games now with 25 fantasy points. His three best games. This even have all come since week seven here and third street game with double digit targets in this one. I mean I don't know. The whole thing's a disaster.
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He could be two catches for 7 yards on Monday night.
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I was going to say there's no reason to believe this is sustainable the rest of the year.
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No, but I don't know what you'd do with him other than I think you have to keep rolling out there. Roll him out there. If it does help their upcoming schedule. The Eagles upcoming schedule is pretty easy at the Chargers, home to Vegas at Washington at Buffalo. So there you have it.
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Patrick Mahomes and Rasheed Rice make our list. Mahomes at four touchdowns. Rasheed Rice caught two of them on a 92 yard day. Jay, this duo I think a little bit more reliable than whatever A.J. brown is week in and week out.
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Yeah, brutal matchup coming up on Saturday Night Football against the Texans where the Chiefs are trending towards only being three point favorites.
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Not surprised. Texans are playing amazing.
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Yeah, Texans playing very well and Texans.
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Always play them tough.
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Specifically Gamma Tough game in the playoffs last year. But yeah, I mean Mahomes he's statistically this is the most Patrick Mahomes he's looked since 2023. Rasheed Rice had the hamstring issue that he's dealing with but he seems fine. The Chiefs off the issue right now is their past defense. The offense has been giving them what.
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They need since week two. He's the second best wide receiver sorry since he returned he's the second best wide receiver in fantasy football. Rashi Rice is he's been just awesome. 23 or more fantasy points in four of six games. Him and Kelsey kind of the important part the last thing on that game by the way real quickly is that Pacheco came back but it was still the cream hunt show in the backfield.
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Yep Connor Jordan Love my man my patron saint alongside Alec Pierce goes 18 for 3234 yards and a touchdown on thanks four touchdowns on Thanksgiving. The packers are 6 to 1 to get the 1 seed. My man Jordan loves 10 to 1 to win MVP. I will be absolutely insufferable to everyone if Jordan love wins mvp.
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How we tell versus how you are on a normal everyday basis but game.
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On the line squint game on the line. He makes a phenomenal throw. Just chucks it up to Don Tavian Wicks and Wicks comes down with the sure hands of don Tavian Wicks.
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Two touchdowns, 94 yards. You play packers roulette sometimes wide receiver roulette sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
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Christian Watson I feel like we get a Dante being Wicks game like this once every four weeks and when they buy in and then he disappears for a month. Yeah I'm not buying into it. A nice game for Wicks. A nice player set at least a 19% target share in three of the last four games but it's his first game this year with more than eight and a half fantasy points so just not buying it. I will say what I am buying as you sit here and look at some of the some of the fantasy leaders. We'll talk about A.D. mitchell and Devon Bailey more tomorrow. Some of the other guys obviously Rice Lamb some of the other but I think what is sustainable is the Chicago Bears running attack here. Deandre Swift and Common on guy both just fantastic back to back games with Manangai seeing over 50% of the bears running back rushes they took it to the Eagles. They just out physicaled the Eagles and feels like this is a script that they can follow. That offensive line is no joke.
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They want to be what the Lions were with Sonic and Knuckles and now with Swift and Manungai.
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The only issue is their next three games, two against the packers, one against the the Brown the best rush defense in football. So it's going to get a little bit trickier to start Manangai in particular just because of the opposing rush defenses.
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Fair enough. Jameson Williams, who we just talked about earlier now has at least 16 fantasy points and five of his last seven got a 37% target share. Obviously I'm on Ross St. Brown has that low ankle sprain. He's week to week. We'll see if he comes back this week but I stand by my I'd rather Jameson Williams than Justin Jefferson the rest of the season.
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Lions underdogs to make the playoffs now stage on the line Thursday night against Dallas.
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Jacoby Myers the last player on our list. Suspiciously Jacksonville jaguar Jacoby Myers on this list over Adonai Mitchell. You could tell I missed the call this morning about that America. That's on me. Six catches though for 90 yards and a touchdown settling in nicely here.
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I think the part of the reason is because we're going to talk about Mitchell tomorrow during the waiver wire show obviously. But Jacobi Myers, in the past three weeks he's averaging over 15 fantasy points per game. 24% target share. Finally feels like he's a big part of this Liam Cohen offense and that there's a connection there between him and the traveler Trevor Lawrence, especially with Parker Washington getting banged up in this game. Brian Thomas Jr. His nightmare Caesar nightmare season continuing. Jacksonville. Jacobi Myers feels like the number one wide receiver on a, you know, on a reasonable offense.
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He's in trouble.
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Great offense but it's he's in trouble.
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Though because he's about to face the middle of the road defense of my Indianapolis Colts without Source Gardner. So the good times coming to Sunday scaries.
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Oh man. You know who tops this list? It's been a bad stretch for Lamar Jackson and the Ravens offense and Zay Flowers suffers with it. He only catches two of seven targets for six yards. Lamar with a pick two fumbles. His rushing production is not the same. Matthew. It's ugly for Baltimore right now.
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It is but shout out to my guy Ian Harditz at Fantasy Life who put out a tweet about this just a little while ago. Isaiah likely fumbles into the end zone right? Zay Flowers has like a 34 yard touchdown that like on a on a questionable ticky tack offensive PI called back. There was a couple of different, you know, long bombs to Tess Walker that they just missed. And I'm just saying that he's not running so he's not Lamar and I don't think he's going to run like it. Just since he's come back from the hamstring. He just hasn't looked right. But I will say that I do think that there were a couple of bang bang plays that easily could have gone the other way where Lamar's day looks a lot different than it did. I mean again the the likely thing's not his fault and the Zay Flowers call that that was a questionable one as well.
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Back to the Bears here. We talked about how great their run game is, Jay, but the pass game between Caleb Williams and Roman Dunes a not much going there. Rome after being so good the beginning of the season is starting to sink people a little bit now.
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It's nothing. You trust anyone in this Bears passing game. Caleb goes 17 for 36. They want to run the ball. Travis Etienne does not try to do.
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What the Panthers are they want to hide Caleb. They want to just run the ball and play good defense and it's why wouldn't they. It is working as well. Travis Etienne was on the love list and yeah, sorry America, that was just a bad call. Just I don't know, they just weren't able to get anything going in the run game there as well. Third straight game with at least a 30% target for Jalen Waddle. That's the positives. The negatives are back to back Fantasy games under 8 fantasy points for Waddle. Better days are ahead hopefully on an.
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Last call. Here's the most bet Monday Night Football player props Drake May Passing touchdowns two plus is the leaderboard. Jay, what are you looking at? It looks like Trey bets there, by the way.
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There you go. By the way. Welcome to sports betting in the state of Missouri. It's now legal in the state of Missouri, so welcome aboard.
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Go Missouri.
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That's my favorite state. Yeah, people don't know that.
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Yeah, of course.
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That's it. One of the hottest stakes you've ever had.
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It's one of my top 50 states in America.
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Travion Henderson longest rush over 14 and a half yards. The Giants have the worst rushing defense by a significant margin in the NFL by epa per play, per rush by rushing success rate. I think trayvon will break one for at least 15 yards. You saw what Jimmy Gibbs did to the Giants last week.
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What about you, Matthew?
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I like pop Douglas. Over 15 and a half receiving yards. I'm surprised this line is so low. He's had at least 34 receiving yards in five straight. He's had at least 17 or more receiving yards in eight straight. Giants allow the fourth most yards per game to wide receivers in the slot, which is obviously where Pop Douglas lines up the most. I think Drake May has a nice game today. Give me Demario Douglas over 15 and a half receiving yards.
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Connor, I don't blame you guys for going Patriots props, but I'm going to take the Giants to hang around in this spread is now 7 and a half points. I like that. There's a hook on this. Jackson dart is back. Their defensive coordinator has been fired. Maybe a little spark there. Seven and a half is a big number. The Giants have hung around and against a lot of good teams this year. Hopefully they can do it tonight.
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All right.
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That music means you. Means you don't have to go home, but you can stay here. For Jay Connor, Bijan Robinson, I'm Matthew. Good luck tonight with your Monday night Miracles. We'll see you back here tomorrow. Peace out.