← Fantasy Football Happy Hour with Matthew Berry
Fantasy Football Happy Hour with Matthew Berry
Week 14 Takeaways: Josh Allen, Shedeur Sanders, DK Metcalf + Daniel Jones injured
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December 8: Matthew (@MatthewBerryTMR), Jay (@croucherJD), and Connor (@ConnorJRogers) recap player performances in Bengals-Bills, Colts-Jaguars, Titans-Browns, Steelers-Ravens, and Bears-Packers. The guys also highlight injuries to Daniel Jones and Jayden Daniels, big days from Puka Nacua and Michael Wilson, and unveil their favorite bets in Eagles-Chargers.
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Coach Motivator
Hey, I'm gonna tell you what, man.
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This. You guys are so damn tough. So damn tough. No quitting this football team. And 17. I don't know what play that was supposed to be, but you did it.
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Matthew Berry
Hell the job.
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Put the ball down.
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Coach Motivator
That was good.
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Matthew Berry
Put the ball down.
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Coach Motivator
Hey, hey. We didn't ride the wave, right?
- [00:23]
Matthew Berry
Ho, ho, ho, ho. Hey.
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Coach Motivator
We didn't ride the wave. Stay here.
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Matthew Berry
Right?
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Coach Motivator
Stay chill, stay calm. Believe in ourselves and in one. Another victory.
- [00:32]
Matthew Berry
Monday.
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Coach Motivator
103.
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Matthew Berry
One, two, three.
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Fantasy Football Happy hour with Matthew Barry.
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Happy Monday.
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Connor Rogers
Welcome to the fantasy football happy hour. That was the Buffalo Bills at the top. Josh Allen. Just doing whatever Josh Allen needs to do, Jay.
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Jay Morrison
Yeah. Every time a coach speaks who's not Dan Campbell, it makes me long for dan Campbell. Sean McDermott. I'm not getting fired up for Sean McDermott.
- [00:58]
Connor Rogers
He didn't really have a plan.
- [00:59]
Jay Morrison
Josh Allen's bet. Josh Allen carries some real gravitate. Also, by the way, Matthew Barry joining us from a hotel room far, far away. Looks like a penthouse. Yeah, it's very high up. We're glad that NBC got you in one of the good rooms, Matthew. But watching yesterday, what it made clear to me is Josh Allen's the best player in football, fantasy football, real life football. I think that he stands alone, the biggest needle mover. Yeah.
- [01:23]
Connor Rogers
I would say if you were looking for one person on a 53 man roster, it was a show in the snow yesterday, Matthew.
- [01:30]
Matthew Berry
Yeah. Proud fantasy life investor Josh Allen against proud fantasy life investor Joe Burrow. It was a, it was a house asunder here, here in fantasy life HQ in terms of who we root for. But Josh Allen, as you pointed out, Jay, is the man. It's his third different game this year with 35 or more fantasy points. Every other quarterback in the NFL have two. Like, it's just, it's just so ridiculous. It's his third straight season with 12 or more rushing touchdowns as well. Like he was the number one overall pick in every super flex league. He was the number one consensus quarterback, rightfully so. He will be again next year, you know, and what's crazy about it, just to move it forward, right? Because we all know Josh Allen is awesome. We all know Josh Allen's amazing. He's going to lead a lot of fantasy teams to their titles this year is that for all of his greatness, I don't know that there's a pass catcher on this team that you really want, right? I mean, like, we'll talk about the tight ends here in a second but you know Khalil Shakir. It's Shakir, not Shakur. I know some people get that confused, but Khalil Shakir has an 11% target share in this one. He's under 20 receiving yards in three of the last four. He gets bailed up by a touchdown. But you don't feel good about starting him. You don't feel good about Keon Coleman or Gabe Davis or any of these guys that they're rolling out there. Even the tight ends. The Titans had a nice game here because it's Cincinnati and Titans always have a nice game against Cincinnati. But like it feels like if you're starting a Bill's tight end, it's obviously Dalton Kincaid assuming health. But like Docs and Dawson Knox and Jackson Hawes get involved to an uncomfortable amount for somebody, you know that. That has a Dalton Kincaid. So it's just. It's weird. It's weird. Josh Allen stands alone. I feel like.
- [03:17]
Jay Morrison
Yeah, I think the thing with Alan and his greatness is that his ability to create outside a structure, it has ripple effects in the offense where he's not always looking for one guy. He's looking for the guy that is open because he creates so much time for anyone to get open. So I think fantasy. I still think Don Kincaid is the surest bet in this offense. Among the pass catches, I think he's just the most talented guy and he seems to have really built the rapport with Allen after a bit of a hiccup last year when he was dealing with injury. But, you know, yeah, outside of that, it's roll the dice. I will say one thing bringing it back to specifically Josh Allen. Josh Allen right now is 15 to 1 on DraftKings to an MVP. People can talk themselves into Stafford, into Drake May. Josh Allen is the most valuable player in football. He's been the most valuable player in football this year. I think. I think that he's a very good chance to beat Drake may head to head this weekend. That game is Linus pick. I think that Allen's MVP price should just be Bills win the division multiplied by the price of the Rams not to win the division. And that gets you to about 11 to 1. And I think that's what he should be, not 15 to 1.
- [04:19]
Connor Rogers
Do you think J fatigue ever plays into this where it's like, we know Josh Allen's great, he's always great. But we love the historical in a sense for him season Staffords having or the rise of Drake may creating excitement?
- [04:31]
Jay Morrison
Yeah, I think so. I think there's a human voters. Yeah, I think the people, I think that he has to win the division. I think it's very hard to win MVP back to back if you're not going to win your own division. So the good thing about Allen is that for him winning mvp, his success is correlated with just Drake May exiting the race. Because Allen needs to win the division and if he does, by definition Drake May will have lost the division, just won't be a candidate anymore. So I think that Alan needs to win the division. He needs help. Baltimore probably needs to beat New England two weeks from now on top of Buffalo winning. And then you probably need Stafford to lose that Thursday night game in Seattle, which you know that's going to be a coin flip.
- [05:07]
Connor Rogers
Josh Allen schedule the rest of the way they are at New England, they are at Cleveland against Philadelphia and then they finish this season against the Jets. So a tough three ahead. But Matthew, it's Josh Allen against anybody. There's no reason to ever doubt him.
- [05:20]
Matthew Berry
It is. And you know what's weird is like you know, MVP I feel like is as Connor, you were talking about it somewhat narrative based, like you can put all the stats if you want. Right. And you know, if also again like you take Matthew Stafford out of the Rams and there's a downgrade but you take Josh Allen out of Buffalo and the team's useless.
- [05:39]
Jay Morrison
Yeah, right.
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Matthew Berry
I mean to your point about just who's, who's more valuable.
- [05:43]
Connor Rogers
Right.
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Matthew Berry
And so but I do think that because Stafford, just because the way his body is, he's just not going to make, you know, 45 yard runs in the snow, flailing himself into the end zone. Like there's just kind of like a frenetic energy to Josh Allen that Matthew Stafford, even Drake May doesn't have. That makes you sort of feel, oh yeah, that's the mvp. He's laying it all on the line, he's leaving it on the field. And I don't know if that's fair or not, but I think it's a reality. Last thing I want to say about Don Kincaid here is just that just taking it back there is like four, you know, he, he was great, right? 18% target share. He's had 14 or more fantasy points in three of the past four. But like he's a part time player. Like he's played 35% of the snaps yesterday. He, he's running 53% of the routes. He needs a touchdown to pay off. He was 4 for 41 and he gets your touchdown. And given the state of the position. It's tight end seven as we headed in Monday Night Football. But like I just, I just don't want people to, to think like oh, you know, back in is like a top five tight end. Like he's a, he's a part time player who has got a decent amount.
- [06:48]
Connor Rogers
Of touchdown equity on the Bengals side of things in this game, in fantasy at least, Joe Burrow heads into Monday night football as QB3 because he throws for four touchdowns. Obviously the interceptions at the end of the game kind of sunk them. But a strong day for Joe Burrow and a. In correlation Jay, a massive day for T. Higgins as well.
- [07:06]
Jay Morrison
Yeah, I think Joe Burrow, if he's healthy, we know exactly what he is. This is an incredibly stable offense. When Burrow is healthy and it looks like he is, he just looks like Joe Burrow to me. And that's a real life top three at worst top four quarterback in football. And it manifests itself in fantasy. When he has his weapons, T. Higgins is a little concerning that he keeps on hitting his head and has been dealing with the concussion issues the past couple of weeks playing. Yeah. And playing through it. There was a couple of scary moments yesterday with T. Higgins, but when Burrow has Higgins and Chase out there, he is a top five fantasy quarterback clearly. And Higgins is a must start wide receiver. Obviously Jamar Chase goes without saying. And then Chase Brown just his touchdown equity goes up so much when he has Burrow at the controls of the offense. And so he becomes, you know, a legitimate RB one. I think even if the efficiency is wasn't really there yesterday, he still goes gets the three receptions, gets a receiving touchdown as well as the rushing touchdown. So with Burrow here it just becomes a very projectable offense. Matthew with three legitimate stars to go with borrow fantasy wise.
- [08:12]
Matthew Berry
Yeah, obviously you know, Jamar Chase is. Jamar Chase is, you know, for him not a great day. But I'm not really worried about that. You know, Higgins going against the Buffalo Bills defense, they coming into this game had been really good at sort of limiting wide receiver twos as a, you know, just a really impressive game. Obviously there were a couple of amazing catches, some that didn't count, but still 30% target share. He's now scored at least one touchdown and five of the last six. And so you know, Higgins is sort of right there. I'm with you. The, the concussion stuff makes you a little bit nervous here. But the other thing that's I think important about this thing is like you're always starting Higgins. You're always starting Jamar Chase. But Chase Brown like Joe Burrow, honestly. Starting with Joe Flacco and now continue on with Joe Joe Burrow. Chase Brown has suddenly become very, very viable. 18 or more fantasy points in probably the last six since week eight. He's the eighth. He's the fifth best running back in fantasy football. The one thing I want to caution you against with Chase Brown, again similar to Kincaid though in the two games since Machu P. Ryan returned, he's playing just 62% of the snaps. Like they like P. Ryan. They like him in third down. They like him in blocking situations. They were using him a little bit in short yardage yesterday as well. Chase Brown is still great. The touchdown was an unbelievable catch that you know, upon review they're like, okay, yep, he did get the ball into the end zone. He made a great catch in the corner of the end zone over the pylon. But I just again, I think Chase Brown is probably more a mid tier RB2 than the RB1. He has been with some AJP Ryan back. I just, I just sort of want to caution people against that a little bit. But yeah, Burrow is the, is the tide that rises all boats again crowd fantasy life investor. And good for him. He's going to continue. He's going to continue to play for the Bengals.
- [10:03]
Connor Rogers
Jonathan Medici, always good to see him weighing in. Man, Barry really is in the penthouse. Let's go.
- [10:09]
Matthew Berry
You know what? Yeah, I'm not in. I'm high up. I wouldn't say I'm in the greatest hotel. I'm high up.
- [10:19]
Jay Morrison
Strays. I think Barry is in Dubai. Yeah. Raise the flags. It reminds me of Mission Impossible for gross protocol where Tom Cruise exits out. You remember I'm talking about scaling. Yeah, scaling the building in Dubai. I don't think Matthew Barry has the athletic capacity of Tom Cruise in that film despite being of a similar age. To be fair, Matthew, maybe you should kind of get in the gym while you're in that hotel. Get the Tom Cruise body going because whatever he can do in theory, you should be able to do too.
- [10:46]
Connor Rogers
Dubai.
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Matthew Berry
Yeah, it's going to take me. It's going to take me a lot longer than one day in a Kansas City hotel to get in the kind of shape Tom Cruise is. Who is Tom Cruise is. For my money, there are people who love him, people who, who aren't as big a fan. But Tom Cruise, I think no one will debate this. Tom Cruise is the greatest runner in movie history.
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Jay Morrison
Oh yeah.
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Matthew Berry
Every watch any movie, watch any Tom Cruise Movie. He always runs. There's always at least one scene where he runs and he's just really good at it. He just looks like it's an awkward thing to run. Try running and filming yourself and you'll be like, oh, I look weird. But Tom Cruise always looks cool running.
- [11:23]
Jay Morrison
The way I would describe it, he is like a graceful Isaiah Pacheco because there's a ton of arm movement, but it doesn't look cartoon like. And also, people can say what they want about Tom Cruise. 1986-2004 Color of Money through Collateral it's the best movie star stretch in cinematic history. I would hold up. Yeah, that's what I would say.
- [11:40]
Matthew Berry
I'd have to think through that. I have to think through that. But listen, he's. He is a movie star. There is no question. In an era where I'm not convinced there are a zillion movie stars, he is still a true old fashioned American movie star. I actually think his Twitter. I don't know if it is because I. But I know for a while his social media bio was, you know, it was like, you know, at Tom Cruise running through movies, you know, since what? Whenever, whatever. He started. Since 1984, whatever. Whenever he started movies, you know, which I always think was pretty funny. Anyway, we like Chase Brown.
- [12:17]
Jay Morrison
Nice.
- [12:17]
Matthew Berry
Good cap.
- [12:18]
Connor Rogers
Our next game here. Sorry, Jay. Jacksonville dismantles the Colts. It might be time to stick a fork in the Colts.
- [12:27]
It is as we see the leaderboard here. Good day for Travis Etienne. Trevor Lawrence was very solid in this game. Not chaotic like he usually is. He's had a couple nice weeks here, but man, the story, there's just no way around it. Poor Daniel Jones. He drinks for free. Today here at the Fantasy football happy hour bar, we are wishing the best for Daniel Jones torn Achilles in the first quarter. Jay, these are your Colts. The floor is yours.
- [12:53]
Jay Morrison
It burns. You know what the saddest thing is, Connor? Is that the drive before he tears the Achilles is the best that the Colts offensive look for a month. Daniel Jones had a scramble where previously the previous two weeks he was moving around. He looked like a statue. He's playing a broken leg. He actually ran fast on a scramble and it felt like the Colts were getting back to being the team that they were in the first eight weeks of the season when they started 7:1. So just really sad for Daniel Jones. What a baller. To be playing on a broken leg in the first place. And you just knew you could see how much it hurt him when he's slamming his helmet on the turf. It's just gut wrenching. So all the best for Daniel Jones. Hopefully, you know, he can come back for next season and, and restore his career. But in terms of, for our purposes, fantasy wise, I'll tell you what kind of there was the first drive where Riley Leonard, it's like, wow, this guy can move around. He's hitting first reads, maybe it'll be okay. And then not so much. And then he started air mailing passes and it felt like every second pass could be picked off. So I think fantasy wise, obviously everyone takes a huge knock across the board and if you want to know, like the impact of Daniel Jones, yeah, I get it. Daniel Jones is not Joe Burrow, he's not Josh Allen. But in terms of how the market has adjusted its rating of the Colts, the Colts are ten and a half point dogs in Seattle. Like if Daniel Jones was playing, that line would be like four and a half, right? Like Daniel Jones. In terms of at least the drop off from him to Riley Leonard, the market is treating that it's like a six point drop off. Like Lamar Jackson getting hurt in the Ravens because of how important he is this offense. And I think it says a lot about Riley Leonard as opposed to Daniel Jones. But what do you think Leonard can do in this offense?
- [14:32]
Connor Rogers
And now they're 22 and one to win the division, which is just off the map. 22 1. When you look at Riley Leonard, the interesting thing is coming out of college, he was at Duke, ironically, and then Notre Dame. But when he was at Duke, you watched him and you're like, oh, Duke found another Daniel Jones. He's a good athlete. He's got a big enough arm, but just a little bit of radic under pressure. The accuracy kind of comes and goes. Definitely a more athlete first quarterback than a polished quarterback. So I think if anybody can tailor an offense around strengths, I think Steichen is really good at it. But it's just there's no way around it. It's going to limit their pass game to a degree and teams are going to continue to try to sell out to stop Jonathan Taylor because that's their best weapon. With Jones, he can throw the ball down the field to make you pay for that. It's hard to expect a rookie in Riley Leonard to do that. And Malik here, Malik, Hakeem said, what do we do with Tyler Warren? With no Indiana Jones, I actually, I don't know if this is the end for Tyler Warren. He's not my concern here. You would actually think Riley Leonard with a week of practice would lean on somebody like Tyler Warren a little bit.
- [15:34]
Jay Morrison
Yeah, it should be short stuff and he targeted Warren enough even though Warren only goes 2 for 15. Matthew, my take would be that Tyler Warren now drifts into being like a low end touchdown dependent tight end. One I think Jonathan Taylor is now a low end RB1 and I think the hit comes for guys like Alec Pierce who is now more of a flex type of guy.
- [15:55]
Matthew Berry
Yeah, I think that's right. I mean if there's one positive here it's that when he came in Michael Pittman got a 34% target share. Another player was above 17% so. So maybe there is hope for Michael Pittman as well in this offense. I think teams do stack the box against Jonathan Taylor. So right from, from a guy that was a top three running back, I think he's still a low end RB1 but I think you're still obviously starting Jonathan Taylor and I don't know that you're going to have better options than Tyler Warren. Maybe Tyler Warren doesn't go down as far just because I think there's an argument to be made. I don't know if he's a touchdown dependent tight end because I think there's just so many tight end twos that are touchdown dependent. I think there is a path for fantasy value for Tyler Warren even if he doesn't catch a touchdown. Again more as a low end tight end one just because again now without Daniel Jones this offense is going to have to get creative. Connor, I mean like they were talking about the fact that you know that if Riley Leonard got hurt in that game, Tyler Warren was their emergency third street quarterback. And so do they do more wildcat stuff with Tyler Warren? Do they try to taste and hill him a little bit for lack of a better phrase. Right. You know, and try to just get more creative with this offense and hide Riley Leonard a little bit. I will also say the typical caveat that we always hear is anytime a rookie quarterback. It's the same stuff that was said about Chadur. It was the same stuff about said any rookie quarterback that a full week of practice where he is the number one guy will do wonders for him. Now you don't love him. You don't love him playing Seattle.
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Shades of Max matchup. I mean it's a brutal matchup for your first game here. But he's somebody that.
- [17:31]
You know and Connor, I mean you tell me right? But feels like he is. He's the, he's the Timo version of Daniel Jones. Right. As you mentioned. Like, I mean, like right again. He can use his legs somewhat. He. You know, there's. It's, it's not Lamar Jackson to Cooper Rush is my point is that like is he as good as Daniel Jones? No, he's not. Is there going to be a learning curve? Of course there is. But can Steichen pare down the offense, get some packages in there that he know Riley Leonard can hit like they did move the ball in the second half. Like was it pretty? No. And did Jacksonville have. Was Jacksonville ever in trouble? No. But like it's not like it suddenly he wasn't Zach Wilson out there. You know what I mean? He wasn't like, like. I don't know. I just. I didn't think it was as incompetent as. I get the. Listen, I get six is a big spread. I don't know. Maybe I'm. Maybe I'm being too optimistic here. Connor. I just, I think it, I think everyone takes a hit. But I'm just saying I don't think the season's completely over for the Colts. It took a big hit, but I'm just saying it's not like. Well, there's no way anyone's ever going to have any fantasy value. This is like.
- [18:37]
Connor Rogers
Right.
- [18:38]
Matthew Berry
This is shades of Geno Smith, you know, at the moment.
- [18:41]
Connor Rogers
Right. It won't sink them fantasy wise, but it's just you already have a lot of mouths to feed and it feels like now the past game will be extremely dumbed down and limited.
- [18:53]
Jay Morrison
Yep. Here's the thing. Before we move on to the Jags, two last things. One, I don't think it's so much about like the target share stuff. It's just that they're not going to sustain drives as much and not going to be in scoring position nearly as much because the offense is just going to be much worse across the board. Secondly, you need to mention Anthony Richardson who has been on IR since fracturing since his orbital fracture and pre game against the Cardinals for the same day that Travarius Ward also got knocked out by a teammate. Just a cursed pre game for the Colts. He is not being cleared for football activities. He was on the sideline last week indoors wearing sunglasses. The reporting has been that he's had blurry vision for weeks and it's getting better.
- [19:31]
Connor Rogers
Scary.
- [19:31]
Jay Morrison
Yeah. And Shane Steichen has said that they're not ruling out him coming back this season. I just wouldn't be counting on it. Maybe we just don't know with any clarity what's going to happen there. So yeah, you should probably pick up Anthony Richardson if you can afford to if he's on your waiver wire just because there is upside there. But but I wouldn't be counting on that particularly not for this coming week given that he still hasn't been cleared for football activities.
- [19:53]
Connor Rogers
On the Jacksonville side of things guys in this game, very clean game for Trevor Lawrence, very in control game and I think the fantasy takeaway is Matthew Jacoby Myers is the featured pass catcher in this offense.
- [20:05]
Matthew Berry
He's been nothing short of terrific. Third straight game where he scored but had a 32% target share. He was on my. He was on the love list. He was on my 10 facts you need to know before week 14 as well. Since week 12 he's averaging 17 fantasy points per game and I think the most interesting thing here for me, Connor was not just that Jacoby Myers looks good and clearly has a connection with Trevor Lawrence, but this was a game in which Brian Thomas also kind of ate right that like it wasn't a previously it's been while Brian Thomas been banged up and Parker Washington third, you know, blah blah blah. But no, in a game in which Brian Thomas got a couple of deep shots and winds up 3 for 87 almost a 20% target share for PTJ to go, Myers still manages to you know get this massive target share against a decent defense in Indianapolis. I know they had no sauce Gardiner but still I think I would be encouraged. Jacoby Myers feels like a very safe floor wide receiver too. And signs of life from Brian Thomas Jr. In the now division leading Jacksonville Jaguars. Jay, you I understand I understand you lost a bet. You have to now go buy dinner for Stephen at the Jaguars bar in New York City.
- [21:17]
Jay Morrison
They cook there nothing that's edible for human beings. Jacoby Myers, yeah. Also they almost had another touchdown pass that didn't connect so he looked great. The thing is that the Colts there's not any pass rush whatsoever. Forrest Buckner Comment from Tim James how.
- [21:34]
Matthew Berry
Am I the problem?
- [21:35]
Connor Rogers
He needs the turf once Jacksonville teams. I wish he would have never chosen my Indianapolis Colts.
- [21:41]
Jay Morrison
Well here's the problem Tim, is that I'm not abandoning the Colts. I'm sticking fat with you guys for the time being. I reserve the right to choose a new team whenever I wish, but I will be sticking fat with the Colts. I believe we're going to get stomped by Seattle but then I think that we can come back and beat the Niners on Monday Night Football which is going to be a fantastic primetime game Now Riley Leonard against what's left of the 49ers. That's A. That's a bold.
- [22:03]
Connor Rogers
I think the Niners be like seven and a half point favorites.
- [22:05]
Jay Morrison
No, I don't think they'll be that big. I'm counting on some Anthony Richardson returning Equity Matthew Ryan Tannehill or something kind of Riley Leonard going on Monday Night Football.
- [22:14]
Matthew Berry
It's. Yeah, it's. It's a tough scene here. The one thing I'll say Jay is Connor. It's worth noting that Jay also picked up Jaden Daniels in the league of. And of course he immediately. You know, there's a trend. Well, it is. It's just. It's.
- [22:28]
Guest Analyst
It's.
- [22:29]
Matthew Berry
It is. Is. Is there a curse of Jay? Because I think there might be.
- [22:32]
Jay Morrison
Listen, I started Roof of the Patriots, I started Jaden Daniels and I'm still going to beat George Tavarikis by about 100 points. So it shows you where George's team is out at the moment. Thank you Jackson, Smith and Jigba for your touchdowns. I love them Jags. Quickly last night, Brian Thomas just not a huge target share. 19% target share.
- [22:51]
Connor Rogers
Al Pierce now.
- [22:52]
Jay Morrison
Yeah, he's Alec. And also he was making some highlight catches which good that he made them, but also not particularly sustainable. One of them might have been with one hand. Couldn't really see through my tears as a Colts fan. Can't recall. Yeah. Producer Stephen, who could see through his tears of happiness, clarifies that it was indeed with one hand. So bcj, it's good to see him with his swagger back.
- [23:12]
Matthew Berry
Right.
- [23:12]
Jay Morrison
Well, so there is upside there part of the offense. Jacoby Myers is the guy you want in that passing game for now.
- [23:17]
Connor Rogers
SEC man.
- [23:18]
Matthew Berry
But Connor, can I ask you something?
- [23:20]
Connor Rogers
Please.
- [23:20]
Matthew Berry
I just. The more I'm thinking about this, this curse of J thing I think might very well be real.
- [23:26]
Connor Rogers
We have years of track record.
- [23:28]
Matthew Berry
I mean, allow me to present some evidence.
- [23:30]
Jay Morrison
I was on Ohio State Saturday night too.
- [23:32]
Connor Rogers
Oh, nice. Great.
- [23:34]
Matthew Berry
Yeah, you're on Ohio State Saturday night. But I mean, again.
- [23:38]
We'Ve always, for years, for years. We've always joked about. We always looked at it from Jay's point of view. But think about it from demar Hamlin's point of view. He literally came back from the dead. He was like minus 400 or something at one point to be comeback player of the year. And once Jay got on that bandwagon, the curse of Jay was so strong that a guy that literally came back from the dead.
- [23:59]
Jay Morrison
I killed a dead man twice.
- [24:02]
Matthew Berry
Wasn't able to win the award. Joe Flacco off his couch was able to able to do that. He, he early on in the show's history Connor if you remember Michael Thomas was making comeback. Jay jumped on that bandwagon and then next thing, next thing you know he's, he's out of football. Yeah it's just he picks up Jay Daniels, he starts him, boom.
- [24:21]
Connor Rogers
Hurt again.
- [24:22]
Matthew Berry
He get hit again. He plays barely a half.
- [24:24]
Jay Morrison
That's a brutal fancy day as well Donna. Yeah, don't push me, Matthew. Well I was becoming Commanders fan next year. I like the signs of life in that team. Was a great performance on Sunday against the Vikings. Maybe I'll be a commander's man going forward. We'll see how it goes.
- [24:37]
Matthew Berry
Aloha.
- [24:39]
Connor Rogers
Pick one. The Madden cover curse Berry jersey curse or Jay's team curse.
- [24:45]
Jay Morrison
Let me tell you when we're, when we're halfway through the Seahawks beating our Riley Leonard 43 on the weekend, Jay's team's curse going to feel like the most onerous of all of those.
- [24:55]
Connor Rogers
SEC man said hey all local New York City regulars we should meet up at the Jags bar. I'm trying my best to make this happen. I know producer Steven will back this as well. All right, moving on the Shedeur Sanders show. Great game for Shedeur but the Titans get their second win of the season in this one on a failed two point conversion that was the talk of town for the Browns. But in fantasy Shedeur is ATOP the board. 33 and a half points. Tony Pollard with a huge day over 28 points. Harold Fannin and Jerry Judy get going in this one Jay. I think the real fantasy news or noise here is Tony Pollard going for over 150 yards and two touchdowns against.
- [25:34]
Jay Morrison
The best rushing defense in the NFL.
- [25:35]
Connor Rogers
Elsewhere it's funny is that this wasn't even a good matchup.
- [25:38]
Jay Morrison
Yeah I feel like the Brown. I mean this is going to happen. These strange end of season games like why are the Vikings beating the commanders 31? Nothing.
- [25:45]
Matthew Berry
Like what is that?
- [25:46]
Jay Morrison
Like there's weird stuff happens at the end of the year where it just felt like the Browns just weren't at the races on defense in this one and Tony Pollard was able to capitalize going 25 for 161 against the Cleveland Browns has the breakaway touchdown of course but to me the, the story out of this was that just the fact that Chadoor was able to compile so much passing volume. Right. And I get it. Yeah it's the Titans defense if you can put up 364 passing yards in a game against any NFL team like that. Bodes well going forward. Harold Fadden was incredible. Has a great touchdown at the end and gets 11 targets. Goes 8 for 114 people talking about this is the worst Heisman Trophy race of all time. No, the real story is this is the worst offensive rookie of the year race of all time. So again, text messages about whether Harold Fanning can offensive rookie of the year. He can't. But the fact that I'm getting those text messages speaks to how poor that field is. America Bucha putting the cherry on the Sunday there with the drop touchdown.
- [26:41]
Connor Rogers
He can't.
- [26:42]
Jay Morrison
No, I don't think. I think it's going to be. I think it's going to be Teddy roll McMillan if he does in the final month. But very encouraging from Chadour and Harold Fannon. Connor.
- [26:50]
Connor Rogers
Yeah, it was this offense you could just see they just can actually throw the ball consistently. And Chadour's. He has a bigger arm than Dylan Gabriel. He obviously is a guy that's going to hold on to the ball and look for some shots down the field. For better or for worse. He's still taking some sacks, still turning the ball over, but in terms of fantasy production, he's not only elevating things for himself, but he's elevating those around him. Matthew, where I mean this was the most fantasy points in a game by a Browns quarterback since Josh McCown in 2015.
- [27:19]
Matthew Berry
2015.
- [27:19]
Jay Morrison
Take that Joe Flagger.
- [27:21]
Matthew Berry
Yeah, I mean, right. Didn't think I was getting a Josh McCown reference today, but I'll tell you this much, he's only the third. Forget the Browns because that's kind of a, you know, a cesspool of ineptitude. But what I will say is, you know, it's kind of circus of sadness there in Cleveland, but I will say this, in the NFL, Shedeur is the only the third quarterback this year with at least 350 passing yards and four total touchdowns. He's only the third quarterback to have a game like that, at least 350 passing yards and four Total touchdowns in a game in the NFL this season. So credit to Shadur Sanders, whose passer rating has improved in every single game working for two time coach of the year Kevin Savansky. Not everyone knows that he won that award twice, but this is a great offensive mind. And you mentioned Harold Fannin, right? You know, like he's top five among all tight ends in terms of total receiving yards this year since week seven. He's got over 21 target share second highest. Only Terry McBide has a higher target share since week seven than Harold Fannin who by the way had a nice game for me against Denny's analytics this week in the league. We'll talk about that league more tomorrow. But anyway just yeah I'm with you like even Jerry Judy even like Jerry Judy got off the milk carton and had a nice, you know, had a big, had that one big play. Still no club said I'd like for him to get open but what are you going to do? So anyway I do think she dure is now we'll talk about him. Sure more tomorrow but I do think he is now viable. Again it's the Titans but still I do think he's now two quarterback league viable. And.
- [28:53]
You feel better about any of these Browns players, especially Judkins and Fannin because the offense feels like it'll be a little bit more efficient here.
- [29:01]
Jay Morrison
Yep. Just last thing, Kevin Spansi. He tied with d' Amico Ryan's in that vote and then won on a tie break which no one knew existed which was most first place votes among guys. But I actually think that we should give the award retrospectively to d' Amico Ryan's after Kevin Stefanski with the game on the line ran a two point conversion which was going to be like a reverse lateral play with Sean Judkins forgot that he was supposed to give the ball back. So I think it's going to be Tomiko's award now take a hot handed.
- [29:30]
Connor Rogers
Quarterback off the field with the game on the line. Interesting. All right, another AFC that was not.
- [29:35]
Matthew Berry
His best moment, not his finest moment, I'll grant you that.
- [29:38]
Connor Rogers
The Steelers hold on against the Ravens. DK Metcalf and Aaron Rodgers back from the dead, finally throwing the ball down the field after weeks of failing to do that. We got to hear from both of them after the game. On the downfield connection, I think just.
- [29:54]
DK Metcalf
Us connecting at practice on Wednesday, Thursday and even on Friday. The defensive scout team gave us great looks. We were competing all week at practice and then like I said man, we're, we're on all the details, all the checks, all the, all the looks at practice. We were communicating all week. So yeah, I think it was just, just a perfect storm. You know for everything to just come together and for us to play a good game like that.
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Guest Analyst
You know you guys were talking about we hadn't completed pass, you know, over 20 yards in a while.
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Yeah, took a shot. DK got it. And then he was kind of on one, but he was on one in practice on Thursday.
- [30:32]
And then he was on one on practice on Friday, so. Love that from our guy. I think he even ran down on a punt. So proud of dk.
- [30:40]
Jay Morrison
I really don't like listening to Aaron Rodgers speak something that was the positive sound, something gnawing about it. Yeah, we didn't run the sound. Producer Steven's call of DK Metcalf hilariously commentating on Aaron Rodgers running in his first touchdown since 2022, where TK said that he thought it was a busted play, not realizing that Aaron Rodgers could still move like this. But look, credit to Aaron Rodgers, he played really well yesterday. And this could be the strangest division winning season in NFL history. But the Steelers now minus money and solid favorites to win the vaunted AFC North. But look, DK Matthew has been very frustrating all season. He's had moments like the epic touchdown catch and run against the Vikings in. Was it in London? Might have been in Dublin. But 12 targets, I thought was the main thing. It's not so much. It wasn't that he just caught a bomb touchdown. He actually got 12 targets yesterday.
- [31:31]
Matthew Berry
Yeah, you know what? I wonder. I know you guys are gonna think this is an insane ego thing, I swear to God. This is not an insane ego thing, I promise you. Because there's plenty of stuff that is insane ego things with me. This one actually isn't.
- [31:41]
Jay Morrison
Where you going?
- [31:41]
Matthew Berry
But last week, you'll hear me. Give me a second. Last week, on the Football Night in America show, Football Night in America podcast, we do this podcast that's, you know, distributed social media. I went on a rant about the Steelers and no, I'm dead serious. Hear me out. I went and ran on about this on the Steelers and got picked up a few places, whatever.
- [31:59]
Connor Rogers
And.
- [32:00]
Matthew Berry
And in the middle of it, I just talked about the fact that I didn't think their offense was particularly good and. And that I didn't think they had any scary players, any players that scared you on offense, which Jason Garrett was surprised when he said that. And he goes, DK Metcalf doesn't scare you. And before I can answer anything, Mike Florio says, not the way they use him. And I said, yeah, not the way they use him. I said, maybe if Mason Rudolph was the quarterback because he's not scared to throw deep. But they don't, you know, they don't throw deep to Day K Metcalf anymore. Well, what do you know? So I don't just. Aaron Rodgers is most the most hyper aware quarterback in the NFL in terms of what's said about him and the team. I'm not taking credit for this. I'm merely saying that no shoot you not an ego thing. I just wonder if somehow, I just wonder if somehow that got back to where we saw something like that. When people are asking about.
- [32:47]
Connor Rogers
I'm also saying it wasn't.
- [32:49]
Jay Morrison
Yeah, I just got clarity from DK Metcalf. He said it never go back to him.
- [32:53]
Matthew Berry
Fair enough. That's fine. But all I know is for the first time this season, for the most time, for the first time this season he got three end zone targets. That's the most he's had in a season. This entire, this entire year, most he's had in the game. This entire year he had five different targets of 15 or more air yards. Also the most he's had in a season for the first time all year they looked for him in the end zone and they, they threw deep to him. They haven't done those things all year long and what do you know, they end up winning. It's what they should have been doing the whole time. Aaron Rodgers is not throwing deep. It's for the first time he threw deep. I don't know why he did. I don't know what he, what he saw, but I'll tell you, I'll tell.
- [33:29]
Connor Rogers
You why he was. He was 5 of 7 against cover 1 averaging like 17 yards per attempt. The Ravens just kept playing a single high safety and he's like, okay, nobody there over the top. Let me throw it. I think there was a bad decision by the Ravens but they challenged him. Didn't think he would throw down the field because he never does and he finally made someone pay. But I have no belief this is sustainable going forward.
- [33:48]
Jay Morrison
Yeah, I agree at footballer77. Nor should you in inverted commas. Jay should win in an Emmy for that statement alone. Thank you footballer 70. I agree. I've been pushing for this Emmy ever since. Connor loses it every year to go up against Todd. Yeah, nobody can beat him. Go up against me instead.
- [34:05]
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
- [34:06]
Jay Morrison
Firstly great clarification Matthew that he does a podcast that is distributed on social media as opposed to non distributed on social media podcasts.
- [34:14]
Matthew Berry
Got picked up a couple of place.
- [34:16]
Connor Rogers
That was actually the sneaky best line of the rant.
- [34:18]
Jay Morrison
It got picked up a couple insane tangent across the board like it was.
- [34:21]
Connor Rogers
A mom and pop shop podcast.
- [34:24]
Jay Morrison
Very strange. Very strange commentary. Anyway, well done Aaron Rodgers. Jalen Warren's usage is a bit strange in this one. He's just not getting the touches that you would expect from a player who's tracking as he was more close to mid season. Kenneth Gain.
- [34:39]
Connor Rogers
Love Kenneth Gainwell.
- [34:40]
Jay Morrison
They love. Everyone loves Kenneth Gain.
- [34:42]
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
- [34:43]
Matthew Berry
Kenneth Gainwell is like, we've talked this forever. Yeah.
- [34:45]
Jay Morrison
He's like the Matthews Penthouse version of Samaj Piran.
- [34:49]
Matthew Berry
Right.
- [34:50]
Jay Morrison
He's like a rich man. Samaj P. Ryan.
- [34:51]
Matthew Berry
Right.
- [34:52]
Jay Morrison
It's like, why do coaches love him so much?
- [34:53]
Matthew Berry
Why?
- [34:53]
Jay Morrison
He's got so much usage, but he's a little bit better than Samaj. I will say on Baltimore side of things, I don't say it wasn't an amazing day for Lamar Jackson, Matthew, but he looked a little bit more like Lamar Jackson than he had the previous three weeks. So maybe there's some hope that he is trending in the right direction as we head into the fantasy playoffs.
- [35:12]
Matthew Berry
Yeah, I mean that was the positive, right? The 7 for 43 rushing yards. He also gets a rushing touchdown, which is his first one since, you know, God knows when. Right. The 43 rushing yards were the most since, I believe week four as well. So just, it was nice to see Lamar. He looked like 85% Lamar as opposed to 60. I mean, it's still, he's still not fully back. It feels like that sack at the end was just brutal, right? I mean like you can't, you can't take that sack. Fifth game this year. Fifth straight game this year where he completed under 60 of his passes. So I just, you know, look, you're still starting Lamar, right? But you feel a lot better next week about, you know, again they play Cincinnati next week. So you feel much better about Lamar moving forward into the fantasy playoffs after seeing this performance. He's QB8 heading into Monday Night Football. You know, normally you'd want him to be like a top 3 QB, but gets peel steel against the Steelers. Given all the recent struggles, you'll take this performance. This is pretty good. And the biggest thing is he finally got Zay Flowers going, right? I mean, you know, 8 for 124 on 11 targets for. For Zay flowers as well. 33% target share. Zay had it going.
- [36:22]
Jay Morrison
Yeah. I've never seen a receiver whose first instinct more often is to go backwards than say, flowers program. Just run forward when you catch the Bulls.
- [36:31]
Connor Rogers
Our last game, guys, crazy game. The packers hold on against the Bears at the end with the interception by Caleb Williams right in the end zone. Fantasy wise, what's notable in this one, Jordan loved playing so much better the last couple of weeks here. Jay, I know you love that.
- [36:45]
Jay Morrison
I love him.
- [36:45]
Connor Rogers
Christian Watson was dynamite in this game while Jaden reed only had 9.3 fantasy points there. Jay. I thought his presence and usage on the field actually opened things up for the offense, notably Christian Watson.
- [36:57]
Jay Morrison
Yep. They seem to make a point of getting Reed going early. The first play of the game was to Jayden Reed. He just, he looked like Jaden Reed, which is the main thing. And I think that what this clarified though, Matthew, is that the. The receiver that you want on the packers is just very clearly Christian Watson. I understand they didn't have huge volume, but just his big playability, his rapport with Jordan Love, the fact that he's. He's kind of been the guy who's been there not all year because he was injured at the start, but in the past couple of months. And Love is playing at a really high level at the moment. I think he's going to win mvp, but I think he's a good chance to finish in the top five. And Christian Watson seems to be the guy that he is most comfortable with.
- [37:35]
Matthew Berry
Yeah, over half of his targets are in place 15 or more air yards down the field. Like, they take those deep shots. That's like, that's not a. Oh, let's see that. It's part of their offense. Jordan Love's not scared to do that. They are so effective at running the ball with Josh Jacobs that they can set a play action that way. They do a really good job of getting Watson mixed in match. I'm like, there was one player that I saw like he's on a linebacker. It's like, well, that just ain't happening, you know, I mean, like, just like. I mean it was just like, all right, well, like you're not keeping up with Christian Watson. I'm sorry. And so I just think they're doing a really good job. LaFleur is doing a really good job with the play calling to your point, Love has so far is the rule that proves the exception of the J Curse. He has played above the J curse level to date. Now we will see. They will likely lose in the first round of the playoffs because of Jay. But so far, so far they're doing.
- [38:24]
Connor Rogers
They're doing well on the bear side of this. Matthew. In the second half, it got better. There was really only one way to go and that was up but no room with Dunes A and just hard to kind of lean on or trust anything in this Bears passing game right now.
- [38:38]
Matthew Berry
No, that's exactly right. I mean, but Caleb Williams just hasn't Looked good, right? I mean he's averaging under five yards per pass attempt the last two weeks. Right. He hasn't a game with 240 passing yards since week eight. So it just, they. This offense is designed to hide Caleb Williams, you know, and to try to run the ball effectively. And you know, we saw at the end of the game like Williams made some good plays. The touchdown to Zacchaeus was really nice, you know, and then the touchdown to Loveland on the, on the following drive. But then you know that, that end of the play game that like either run it for the first down or like just throw it higher. Like it's just, just. It's a offense that's designed to hide Caleb Williams. I feel like. And so you don't feel great about anyone other than the running backs in this one. I think, you know, as long as the dunes is out, feels like they just weren't ready for prime time. I mean, tough matchup against the Packers. Give give credit to Green bay.
- [39:31]
Connor Rogers
The week 14 injuries we're going to be watching and tracking all week. Unfortunately for Daniel Jones, per Pro Football talk, that is a torn Achilles suffered in the first quarter. Jaden Daniels re injured the same elbow that he already injured back in week nine. Geno Smith left the game with the shoulder in the third quarter. Tyrod Taylor left the game very, very early with a groin. Devon Hn did not play in the second half with his rib injury. I think the Dolphins are being cautious because any running back could have went off against the jets yesterday. David Njoku with the knee. Zach Ertz with a very unfortunate season ending knee injury. Darnell Washington with a concussion. We're taking our first break. When we're back, don't worry. We got our weekend warriors and your Sunday scaries right after this.
- [40:17]
Matthew Berry
It felt pretty good.
- [40:18]
Puka Nakua
You know, normally you don't come in with too many touchdown celebrations, so I'm going to have to start coming with a little bit more in my pocket. But it felt good the way we were executing on offense and just the ability to get in the end zone. It's something that I feel like I've mentioned before. We watch Tay every time we get in the red zone, but also the mindset he's put in our minds throughout the week is something that has definitely carried over to the games. I think the ability, like how involved we are in the run game, the ability to run our keeper actions and stuff like that, but then also to keep a defender on his toes or on his heels. I mean the ability to continue to Push the issue down the field but then also keep connected in the run game and it allows for things to marry up and for us to get open.
- [40:53]
Connor Rogers
That was Puka Nakua.
- [40:55]
Matthew Berry
Yeah, you bet.
- [40:55]
Connor Rogers
He headlines our weekend warriors. Him and Blake Corum might be the surprise here, but Blake Corum did the Most with his 12 carries for 128 rushing yards and two touchdowns. Puka Nakua, seven catches, 167 yards and two touchdowns. Jay, I think this is the best receiver in the entire NFL.
- [41:10]
Jay Morrison
Yeah, I'm with you there. I think Jackson, Smith and Jiggles probably have a coin better season overall but if you just started the season again, give, give me one wide receiver. I'm taking Puga Nakur as well. I think the difference there is just his strength and the contested catch ability. There's a couple yesterday down the field where you just visually your mind process is like oh that's going to get knocked out, he's going to drop that. He just holds onto it as vice like hands. So yeah, Puka, not much else to say. Absolute monster. Blake Corum I think is going to be a bit dependent on these type of games where you know they won by four touchdowns. It was a blowout, they were doing whatever they wanted on the ground but certainly he's kind of getting into the Tyler Algier range Matthew, where you can for a backup you can count on him much more than most.
- [41:51]
Matthew Berry
Yeah you know it's interesting this as as Connor was reading some of the stats I was just thinking myself like he's basically Tyler Algier where he's like he's a touchdown dependent flex but a better shot at a touchdown most weeks than most guys in that sort of range. He's had at least one goal to go rushing attempt and multiple red zone rushes in five of his past seven games. And so like Sean McVay is obviously learning to trust Blake Corum on to ease the weight. Wear and tear on Kyron Williams. They do like to run a little bit more when they get in close. This was a blowout game and it was also a game that Devonte Adams didn't do much. They didn't need to do much with him. But still I agree with you. Corum is. Corum might be the most important insurance running back in fantasy football right now behind Kyron Williams. But more importantly I do think similar to Tyler Algier to Bijan Robinson, Corum does have standalone value as a flex play that you know, probably needs a touchdown to pay off but has a better chance at it. Than most.
- [42:43]
Connor Rogers
Matthew, I think we've found the most important equation in fantasy football and that subtract Marvin Harrison, add in garbage time and Michael Wilson is the best wide receiver in fantasy football.
- [42:54]
Matthew Berry
Yeah, I mean for, for those, for those old folks in the, in the audience. I remember the, the Billy Bola to Drew Bennett connection over the course of the fantasy playoffs a number of years ago. That's what this is feeling like. Shout out to my friend Sigmund Bloom who put out that reference on social media. Sig is totally right on that one as well. Michael Williams is. Michael Wilson is just having like this the craziest stretch. I've never seen an entire fantasy community root for something more than all of us are like, hey, Marvin Harrison Jr. Just take your time coming back. Take your time. You know, three games in which MHJ has missed, he's averaging over 30 fantasy points per game. He's got a basically a 34 target share. He's averaging 12 for 148. Like that's his average. 12 for 148 over these three games. He's literally one of only two players this game this year with three different games of double digit receptions, 10 or more and 100 or more receiving yards. The other guy, the guy we just mentioned, Puka Nakua. Yeah, Michael Wilson. It's unbelievable. Now they play before, before you think, hey, I've got this. They play Houston next week. They're on the road at the Texans. So this may be the ultimate, you know, immovable force versus, you know, hard rock kind of thing going on.
- [44:10]
Connor Rogers
Landed the plane. Nicely done. Matthew Jay on the Seattle side of things. Sam Darnold and JSN, slow start for Seattle, 6, 6 at halftime. And then they blew the doors off Atlanta and these guys really got going.
- [44:22]
Jay Morrison
Yeah, there's a bit of a misleading scoreline because this really felt in the balance at halftime. And then Rashid Jahid runs back the kickoff and then it's curtains from there. But yeah, jsn, who was trending towards a little bit of a concerning stretch where he didn't do anything against Minnesota because they were double teaming so often, didn't do much in the first half but then really broke loose. And I think that with his schedule down the stretch, we're going to see more pass scripts. Where they are throwing the Rams game in a couple of weeks on Thursday will be epic. But yeah, there's not too much to say. JSN locked in top two wide receiver each week and then Sam Darnold who'd been going through A shaky stretch seemed to figure things out a little bit in the second half.
- [44:56]
Connor Rogers
Matthew Broncos Raiders Boring script but RJ Harvey comes out on top with that script. 17 carries, 75 yards. Most importantly he gets the touchdown. And he played a big part in the pass game as well.
- [45:07]
Matthew Berry
Yeah a target share of 17% plays, almost 70% of the snaps which you like. 23 total touches in this game. That's the thing. The 6 for 24 in the receiving game is what you like now has back to back games with 20 or more fantasy points. They're going to need him down the stretch. And so more and more Sean Payton is learning to trust RJ Harvey. As we've talked about, Connery leaves yards on the field but every week he's starting to get better and he's a locked in RP2.
- [45:33]
Connor Rogers
How about JJ McCarthy making the list here. Jay with the three touchdowns didn't have to do a lot in the past game but a feel good game for the Minnesota offense.
- [45:41]
Jay Morrison
Yeah look we've piled on JJ McCarthy. Everyone has so given credit where credit's due. He didn't have to do a ton in this game but he did exactly what he needed to do which is great throws. The three touchdowns is hyper efficient on a play to play basis. It's unfortunate that none of the production went to Justin Jefferson really, but encouraging for JJ a platform to take a.
- [46:01]
Connor Rogers
Step forward Sunday Scaries how many times do you see a trio headline our Sunday scaries while we have to do that for the Kansas City Chiefs, maybe this is more about the Houston Texans defense right now which is an absolute chainsaw in fantasy to the opposition. But Mahomes, Rasheed Rice and Travis Kelce all with ugly performances.
- [46:20]
Matthew Berry
Matthew just absolutely brutal. I mean you know the three interceptions from a homes now I think his day looks different. If Tyquan Thornton catches that long touchdown right it hit him as perfect throw you know and just Thornton just makes a bad drop here but drops plagued Mahomes and plagued everyone here. Rasheed Rice has two drops right his fewest fantasy points receiving yards in a game this season. Travis Kelsey fewest fantasy points in a game since week two of last year as well. And Mahomes this is his fewest fantasy points in a game since week eight of 2023. I think it was a combination of they didn't play well and the Houston Texans defense really did show up and so you know we'll see how the Chargers do tonight that sue the Chiefs play next week but man this is just a tough day at the office. I don't know that there's a massive takeaway here. You're probably all starting all of them. But you know, in the battle of who could win Andy Reid versus the Texans. Defense. Texans defense, man. Just as dominant as as a defense as we've seen in the NFL in quite some time.
- [47:16]
Connor Rogers
Maybe not a massive takeaway for the Chiefs, but Jay, maybe the opposite for the Bucks right now with Baker Mayfield and Mecca Buca. The drop sinks in Mecca Abouka's day and Baker just hasn't really been good for weeks right now.
- [47:28]
Jay Morrison
Yeah, I thought Patrick Mahomes had the greatest 14 for 33, three interception game in history last night. Baker Mayfield though, on the other hand, his 14 for 30 game. You're right. He just. He has not played well really in two months. He's dealing with an assortment of injuries at Bucher as well. Just a disaster. Catches two or nine targets, drops the the lollipop in the end zone. So I don't think you can really start a mecher Buku going forward.
- [47:50]
Connor Rogers
No in the same game. Matthew. Chris Olave. Good win for the Saints, but Chris Olave not a huge part of it. Just three catches for 30y.
- [47:58]
Matthew Berry
Tyler Shuck had a bad drop. You know, he could have come down with it. Like if he comes down with that, I think his day looks a little bit different. The positives are he still had at least a 25 target share in three of the past four games. You know, gets the five targets again. They didn't need to throw very much. Tyler Schuck was really good and effective on the ground and so, you know, I think more a bad day at the office for Chris Olave. This is only a second game with under 14 fantasy points since week six.
- [48:24]
Connor Rogers
Our three running backs to finish out the scaries and unfortunately these names have come up with duds way too often this year. Ashton Genty, 30 yards. Breece Hall 43 yards. Kenneth Walker, 29 yards. He actually lost the yard on a reception. J It's just too often with these guys that were drafted way higher than compared to what they've actually had an output of.
- [48:42]
Jay Morrison
Yeah, in Genty in particular, I just think there's no chance for efficiency in that offense.
- [48:47]
Connor Rogers
How about this Matthew from the foot Brawler.
- [48:53]
Reference Remind me of the old Noah to Methuselah connection back in my early fantasy football days. Very well done footballer.
- [49:00]
Matthew Berry
You guys weren't there for that, but it was something to behold.
- [49:05]
Connor Rogers
Lucky that you were there.
- [49:06]
Matthew Berry
My second fantasy league ever.
- [49:07]
Connor Rogers
We'll take one. One More break when we're back. It's last call. We got our Monday Night Football bets after this.
- [49:18]
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- [49:32]
Matthew Berry
The crown is yours.
- [49:33]
Connor Rogers
Crown will be ours. It's time for last call. Let's take a look at the most bet Monday Night football. Props on DraftKings. The public loves Jalen Hurts passing touchdowns at one plus for the lovely payout of minus 317. Jay, what do you got?
- [49:47]
Jay Morrison
I'm going to take Justin Herbert over 18 and a half rushing yards. He's gone over this number in 9 of 12 games. Now, I understand he's dealing with the broken hand. I think he's just going to get in there and play like Justin. Football players football. Justin Herbert, he's going to have to be scrambling a fair bit away from this Eagles pass rush. Even without Jalen Carter think he gets the 19 rushing.
- [50:06]
Connor Rogers
I'm looking at the Chargers run game as well, Jay. I know it's the return for Amari and Hampton, so people like I may be able to be careful with them. I'm going over 11 and a half rushing attempts. He did this in four of his five games when he was healthy. I think they've been careful with his return. That's why it went even longer than expected. And Jim Harbaugh and Amarian Hampton, they're not going to be like, oh, we have to. No, this is against the Eagles. There's no Jalen Carter in this game. The strength of the Chargers in this one should be balancing the run in the pass. Amarion Hampton, this is not a big number. Go over, Matthew. What do you like?
- [50:35]
Matthew Berry
Yeah, well, listen, I think we all see this game the same way, Connor, because if Amarian Hampton is running the ball and Justin Herbert is running the ball, you know what's not happening? Justin Herbert passing the ball. So give me Justin Herbert under 31 and a half pass attempts. He's gone under this number in four of the last five games. He's thrown just 20 passing attempts and 18 in his last two. And then you think about Philadelphia to your point. I think they want to slow down this offense, slow down this game and try to run it, not let Philadelphia get the ball. So yeah, Give me under 31 and a half pass attempts, especially with his hurt hand. I think he either runs it himself or hands off to Hampton. You'll see some Vidal as well. So under 31 and a half pass attempts for Herbert is my best bet for tonight.
- [51:14]
Connor Rogers
Let's take a look at Matthew's top players here for Eagles, Chargers, of course the quarterbacks involved in this one and then we'll see if Saquon Barkley can finally get going in crunch time here.
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Matthew Berry
Matthew yeah that would be great. Obviously I definitely I need Saquon to get three points to survive in a Guillotine league so I think I've got my shots there and I also need 25 points from a Ronnie Gadson to win playoff game. Don't get me started on that particular league. That was Tyrod killing me and no Drake May or Traymond Henderson. Playoff starting too soon is what it is. Well listen that music means you don't have to go home but you can't stay here. I'm back in studio tomorrow. Good luck with your Monday night miracles today. For Connor and J, I'm Matthew Kansas City.