Week 4 Waiver Wire: Trey Benson, Darnell Mooney + Jaxson Dart named Giants starter

Summary

Fantasy Football Happy Hour with Matthew Berry

Episode Title: Week 4 Waiver Wire: Trey Benson, Darnell Mooney + Jaxson Dart Named Giants Starter
Date: September 23, 2025
Host: Matthew Berry (with Connor Rogers & Jay Croucher)

Episode Overview

This episode is a classic Waiver Wire Tuesday, focusing on the must-adds as fantasy football managers look toward Week 4. After a wild Monday Night Football and a rash of injuries, Matthew Berry, Connor Rogers, and Jay Croucher break down the top waiver priorities at running back, wide receiver, and quarterback—including the fallout from James Conner’s injury, under-the-radar pass catchers, and the Giants naming Jaxson Dart as the starting quarterback. Throughout, the trio delivers actionable strategy with their familiar banter, humor, and insights into roster construction, player ceilings, and lineup decisions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Waiver Wire Priority: Running Backs

Trey Benson Takes Over in Arizona

• James Conner Injury Impact
  • “Yes, it is Trey Benson time in Arizona. And more importantly, this is one of those guys, like, if you've been saving your number one waiver pick, if you've been saving all your fab money, this is the kind of player you go blow any of that on because he's potentially a league winner.” —Matthew Berry [05:00]
• 87% snap rate post-Conner injury, 6 yards per carry so far in 2025; “not the most efficient workload in the next couple of weeks… but the volume is going to be there for Trey Benson.” —Matthew Berry [04:40]
• Lineup context: Cardinals have solid upcoming schedule (Seattle, Tennessee, Indy, Green Bay).
• Caveat: “He's always trying to break one… Because he's so explosive and that's exciting, but I think it's one of the reasons why at least initially they went with a veteran Conner…” —Matthew Berry [06:18]
• PPR Note: “Trey Benson… has a 12.5% target share so far this year in a part-time role…” —Matthew Berry [07:15]
• Comparison Question: Gentry or Benson? "I'd still take Genty because he's Ashton Genti, sure." —Jay Croucher [08:13]

Other RB Stashes

• Blake Corum—explosive, handcuff to injury-prone Kyron Williams; “might have four weeks this year where it's like thank God I had Blake Corum.” —Connor Rogers [13:55]
• Woody Marks (Texans): pass-catcher, snaps trending up, “looks like he's got some juice in a way that Nick Chubb just doesn't.” —Matthew Berry [11:10]
• Ollie Gordon (Dolphins): Significant red zone usage, “needs to be rostered in more leagues.” —Matthew Berry [12:02]
• Kareem Hunt (Chiefs): “Nothing exciting… but he's getting almost 50% of the Chiefs running back touches.” —Matthew Berry [12:26]
• Chris Rodriguez (Commanders): Led Commanders in week 3 rushes, part of a 3-headed committee.

Roster Construction Advice

• Detailed discussion on who to drop, prioritizing handcuffs and upside based on league depth and roster (see [13:59–15:06]).

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2. Waiver Wire Priority: Wide Receivers

Darnell Mooney (Falcons)

• Available in 55% of leagues
• 11 targets in Week 3: “Falcons passing offense was absolutely miserable… but from a fantasy perspective, they're easy to understand in terms of their usage: Drake London, Darnell Mooney, and Kyle Pitts.” —Jay Croucher [15:40]
• Caution: Penix (QB) struggling; coaching staff reportedly under pressure about a switch.
• “Mooney, look, 27% target share in week three, 91% route participation since returning. But like he still hasn't… it hasn't translated into fantasy production. He's playing Washington this week, which helps.” —Matthew Berry [20:06]

Alec I. O. Manor (Titans)

• 79% available
• “He has taken over the wide receiver one role in Cam Ward's Tennessee offense… the reality is he's the number one wide receiver for a quarterback with talent and upside who is growing each week.” —Jay Croucher [21:25]
• Out-targeting Calvin Ridley, heavy utilization, schedule opens up: Houston, Arizona, Las Vegas, New England.
• “If he's out there, there's a lot of players you'd probably drop for him.” —Connor Rogers [31:00]

Trey Tucker (Raiders)

• 96% available
• Massive week (33% target share); deep-threat, high aDOT, “the cardio king until week three…” —Connor Rogers [24:19]
• Caution: “It is going to be boom or bust, but playing the Bears this week at home…” —Matthew Berry [24:21]
• Comparison: “He's like bad, tame Gabe Davis is how I think of him.” —Jay Croucher [25:43]

Other WR Deep Adds

• Christian Kirk (Texans)
  PPR floor, not flashy, “more of a desperation [add].” —Matthew Berry [27:12]
• Sterling Shepard (Bucs) Volume opens due to Mike Evans injury, “is going to be more of the slot guy… more of a floor play than an upside play.” —Matthew Berry [30:10]
• Noted quick hits: Luther Burden (deep leagues, role increasing), Tyquan Thornton (air yards leader for Chiefs), Jalen Tolbert (Dallas WR2 while CeeDee Lamb is hurt), Parker Washington, Torrey Horton (leverage injuries or changing roles).

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3. Waiver Wire Priority: Quarterbacks

Jaxson Dart (Giants new starter)

• Breaking News: “Jackson Dart will make his career debut starting debut on Sunday against the Chargers.” —Connor Rogers [33:33]
• Immediate fantasy relevance due to rushing upside—design runs featured in the Daboll offense.
• “Dart, who is younger, faster, looks, you know, more athletic than Russell Wilson does at this stage of his career. Like I think Dart is going to be a borderline top 12 fantasy quarterback.” —Matthew Berry [34:19]
• Schedule warning: After Chargers & Saints, faces tough stretch vs. Eagles, Broncos, Eagles, 49ers.
• Ideal for Superflex/2QB leagues—potential league-winner upside.

Other Streamer & Stash Options

• Geno Smith: “Available in over 72% of leagues,” solid streamer this week. —Matthew Berry [41:35]
• Marcus Mariota (if starting for Bears), Tyrod Taylor (at Miami) (if Fields misses time).
• “If I needed a quarterback for the rest of the season, give me Jackson Dart over Geno Smith or any of these guys this week or for the rest of the year.” —Matthew Berry [43:12]

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4. Tight End Targets

• Brenton Strange
• Chigoziem Okonkwo
• Isaiah Likely
• Dalton Schultz
• Oronde Gadsden (Chargers): “Targeted on 47% of his routes in season debut last week… always liked at Syracuse, talented player.” —Matthew Berry [41:35]

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5. Drop List & Injury Updates

Drop Recommendations:

• Joe Burrow, C.J. Stroud, Tyrone Tracy, Joe Mixon, Caleb Johnson, Braylon Allen, Evan Engram—“Welcome to Dumpsville, population U.” —Matthew Berry [43:47]

Key Injury News:

• Mike Evans (Bucs) hamstring, out 3-4 weeks; “doesn’t sound moderate… this is a bummer.” —Matthew Berry [29:30]
• Watch status: Chris Godwin (Bucs)—likely back; Terry McLaurin (Washington) “uncertain to play Sunday due to quad injury.” —Reported [38:46]

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Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes

• On Kyler Murray:
  “Is Kyler Murray the worst good player in the NFL? If that makes any sense at all. Do you know what I mean?” —Matthew Berry [08:59]

• On Jaxson Dart:
  “Design quarterback runs are part of the offense that Brian Daboll is running this year. And so Jaxson Dart… I think Dart is going to be a borderline top 12 fantasy quarterback.” —Matthew Berry [34:16]

• On Waiver Context:
  “Trey Benson is the clear shining star. That's the guy that you go and be aggressive to get.” —Matthew Berry [10:23]
  “Jackson Dart is similar to Trey Benson… blow your budget… I think Jackson Dart is going to be that good fantasy wise.” —Matthew Berry [37:41]

• On roster management:
  “If you have Kyron, [Blake] Corum is one of the most valuable handcuffs in the entire league.” —Connor Rogers [13:28]

• On the pain of fantasy football:
  “26 and 5. And that's amazing… and yet I'm depressed this morning because I lost to Denny… that's what fantasy does to you.” —Matthew Berry [53:40]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Trey Benson & RB Waivers: [02:53–10:23]
• RB Stash Discussion/Roster Construction: [13:28–15:24]
• Wide Receivers - Mooney, Manor, Tucker: [15:24–26:43]
• Deeper WR/Drops: [30:59–32:54]
• Quarterbacks – Jaxson Dart & Streamers: [33:33–43:12]
• Tight End Waivers: [41:17–42:44]
• Injuries/Drops recap: [43:12–44:00]
• Fantasy League Recap (Berry’s woes): [48:16–53:40]
• Monday Night Football Recap: [47:17–52:57]

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Recommendations Recap

• Top Waiver Adds:

  • RB: Trey Benson (must-add), Blake Corum, Woody Marks, Ollie Gordon, Kareem Hunt, Chris Rodriguez
  • WR: Darnell Mooney, Alec I. O. Manor, Trey Tucker, Christian Kirk, Sterling Shepard (+ deep stashes: Luther Burden, Tyquan Thornton, Jalen Tolbert, Parker Washington, Torrey Horton)
  • QB: Jaxson Dart (Superflex/2QB), Geno Smith, Marcus Mariota (watch status), Tyrod Taylor (watch)
  • TE: Brenton Strange, Chig Okonkwo, Isaiah Likely, Dalton Schultz, Oronde Gadsden

• Drops:
  Joe Burrow, C.J. Stroud, various injured/non-producing RBs and TEs listed above

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Tone & Closing Thoughts

The episode is fast-paced, detail-obsessed, and filled with signature humor and rapport. Berry's advice always weighs league context, upside, and injury risk. The waiver wire is thin, but Benson and Dart are clear splash plays, and finding emerging WRs is key. The episode contains commiseration over Berry’s fantasy struggles and relatable reflections on injury heartbreak, making for both an informative and entertaining hour.

“Go get yourself some Jackson Dart. For Jay and Connor, I'm Matthew… at least my Gibbs bet cashed last night. Peace out.” —Matthew Berry [57:47]

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Transcript

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[Jay Croucher]

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[Matthew Berry]

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[Jay Croucher]

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[Matthew Berry]

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[Connor Rogers]

Very fresh.

[Matthew Berry]

Fantasy Football Happy Hour with Matthew Berry.

[Connor Rogers]

Welcome to the Fantasy Football Happy Hour. Connor Rogers. Matthew Berry, Jay Croucher. Yes, A nicely done victory lap from Matthew yesterday. But today we're here to help those that need.

[Matthew Berry]

Need help.

[Connor Rogers]

It is.

[Jay Croucher]

Waiver wire finally here.

[Matthew Berry]

I'm sure we will. I'm sure we will.

[Connor Rogers]

Hangover right now.

[Matthew Berry]

You have no idea. Look so crazy. Monday night Football game. Tons of Monday night miracles. You know, whether it was Jir Gibbs or Dave Montgomery or Mark Andrews on America's Benches. A lot of people coming through. Troy Olsen saying, this is my favorite Daily Show. I appreciate that. Not to be confused with the Daily Show.

[Connor Rogers]

Right?

[Jay Croucher]

We're just.

[Matthew Berry]

We're a show. We're a show that's on every day. That's right. That's. Way to look at the schedule, Connor. Nice job there. We have lots to get to. People. People need their waivers. Some people more than others.

[Jay Croucher]

Not him.

[Matthew Berry]

Me. Sure.

[Jay Croucher]

We'll get into that for sure.

[Connor Rogers]

Electric Monday Night Football game. Lions, Ravens. We're going to cover all of that later, but let's jump right into waiver wires, because that's what we do every Tuesday for you, the regulars that are here with us. And of course, we start with running.

[Matthew Berry]

I don't want people to feel exclusionary. I don't want people to feel like they.

[Connor Rogers]

They can't either in or you're out.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, no, no. You can join in the reindeer games. Like, just come in, the water's warm. There you go. All right.

[Connor Rogers]

Trey Benson with a tweet for James Conner. Got you for life. 6. I promise. Trey Benson ready to take over this backfield after a devastating injury to James Conner. We got to hear from the quarterback of the Cardinals, Kyler Murray, on the run game moving forward.

[Matthew Berry]

Not only is he my teammate, you know, I feel like that's.

[Jay Croucher]

That's a brother of mine.

[Matthew Berry]

Just, you know, see him go down like that, you know, you never want to see that. I understand it's part of the game, but it's not what. You know, it's not ideal. You know, all the work that he puts in and just who he is as a person, you don't want to see him get hurt like that. We got to continue to go. We got to continue to get better and be able to. We got to be able to run the ball.

[Connor Rogers]

Waiver wired. That was Kyler Murray. A very defeated Kyler Murray. Very upset Kyler Murray. But it is Trey Benson time in Arizona. As you look at what he's done through the first three weeks, obviously the snap rate skyrocketed in week three with the Conner injury. Matthew, that's not going to slow down anytime soon, especially against the Seahawks this week where he is now the RB one of this team.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, unfortunate James Conner. We love James, much like his teammates, friend of the show, been a fantasy stalwart for so many years, but. So we wish him a speedy recovery. But yes, it is Trey Benson time in Arizona. And more importantly, this is one of those guys, like, if you've been saving your number one waiver pick, if you've been saving all your fab money, this is the kind of player you go blow any of that on because he's potentially a league winner. He is going to get the majority of the work for a pretty good offense. Not an amazing offense, but an above average offense. Following James Conner's Injury, he played 87% of the snaps. He had an 87% snap rate at 50%. Route participation on the season he's averaging 6 yards per carry. He's a little bit inconsistent. Connor Amari Dimacardo is going to be the third down back but still Benson's going to get the majority of the work again on a better than average offense. Don't know that. He loved the matchup this week against home to Seattle. Then they're at Indy, then they're home to Green Bay, then it's a buy. So the next four weeks I'm just. You know what I mean, like we're telling you, go pick up Trey Benson, go spend all your fab, everything like that. But just understand that it may be a little rocky coming over. Although I will say listen, the Browns ran on the packers last week, you know, Quinton Judkins and again, just even if it's not the most efficient workload in the next couple of weeks because the lineups they're playing Jay, the volume is going to be there for Trey Benson.

[Connor Rogers]

As you see this one from Cameron Thompson. If I'm good at running back, he has Bijan and Bucky. Good for you. And need wide receiver. Would Benson for Ladd make sense? I think that's a great trade if you play Bijon and Bucky.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, I would do that trade in a hard time.

[Connor Rogers]

Great situation.

[Jay Croucher]

Yep. I prefer Ladd. I mean this Cardinals offense, look, Trey Benson is going to be the featured guy in a run heavy offense that has Kyler Murray a quarterback which is still for Kyler's sins. It's still a cheat code to have a running quarterback like that for rushing efficiency. And they have to run the ball because no one on the team can catch outside of Trey McBride. I don't know what's going on with Marvin Harrison Jr. Or the rest of that receiving.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Jay Croucher]

So yeah, it's a question of what type of ceiling can Troy Benson get to him. A little skeptical that he's going to be like a legit RB one or anything like that, but he's going to be a guy that you're starting every week.

[Connor Rogers]

I don't know if their line is good enough for him to be an RB one, but the sheer volume is. I mean this is a team in rushing attempts last 11th. When you look at yards, seventh. When you look at yards per attempt second. So like the offense structure, there is ability there to run the ball and Benson's talented. Just because he's been buried, don't sleep on how talented this guy is.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, I mean I think, I think there's some inconsistency like Lawrence and I have talked about this before but you know, Lawrence and I were talking to an offensive coach on the, on the Cardinals and we were asking him in the off, this is at the combine, we're asking him sort of like, you know, hey, what's the deal with Benson? And they're like, listen, if you call a play that you know is supposed to get you six yards, Trey Benson either gets you 20 or like three. Like he just, he's always trying to break one which is one of the. Because he's so explosive and that's exciting. But I think it's one of the reasons why at least initially they went with a veteran Conner who was able to execute it. But it does feel like as we saw Benson's snaps increase, that there's a little bit more of a maturity and a little bit more patience to Benson's game and including to the great breakaway speed and power. So we do think Benson is very talented to your point. And the other thing that I think is interesting here, right, so you know about Trey McBride, you know about Marvin Harrison, like if I said okay, who's third on this team in target chair, it would probably take you a couple of guesses before you got to Trey Benson. He's got a 12 and a half percent target share so far this year in a part time role he's been playing behind James Conner and yet still he's third on the team in targets and so now that he's going to be playing almost every down well, I mean again, you know, Mercado is going to be playing DiMarcardo I should say is going to be playing some third downs but still, you know, anyway, you know, an RB2 for the rest of the season with some RB1 potential upside in specific weeks. Ryan Scott asks on YouTube, how do you compare Benson between Arizona's line versus Ashton Genty? Connor Rogers?

[Connor Rogers]

Well, at least you've seen the Arizona line be able to run block at times where the Raiders this year have not had one good performance of it. So I think the problem we have with the Raiders right now too that you can't say about Arizona. Through the first couple weeks the Raiders have been playing in pass heavy scripts. I mean they're in second half so it's like okay, time to throw the ball a million times. Where Arizona, yes, they've beat up on some cupcake competition, they've had a soft starting schedule but Arizona, at least there's balance in the scripts or at least run heavier.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, I would still take Gentee because he's Ashton Genti, sure.

[Connor Rogers]

No, without a doubt.

[Jay Croucher]

But is Tribe Benson.

[Connor Rogers]

It's crazy we're having the combo.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, no, I agree. I just worry like, what do you think is wrong with this Arizona offense, Connor? Because when I watch these games, they're just so stuck in the mud. There's just nothing explosive. I mean, there is something explosive. Marvin Harrison drops it.

[Connor Rogers]

Right.

[Jay Croucher]

So I just don't know. There's just. They don't seem to be in rhythm. Even last year they were more, I think effective than they have been this year.

[Connor Rogers]

Don't they feel like the NFC's version of Jacksonville where you have all these big hopes, like Martin Harrison Jr. Is out there. Kyler Murray's awesome.

[Jay Croucher]

Should work and then it doesn't. The quarterback is underway because of the lack of rhythm.

[Connor Rogers]

That was the conversation we had with Jacksonville yesterday. It feels like that with Arizona at times, but I don't know. I still have belief because there's so much talent.

[Matthew Berry]

Kyler drives me crazy.

[Connor Rogers]

I mean, drives everybody crazy.

[Jay Croucher]

Annoying.

[Matthew Berry]

Kyler drives me crazy. Like, is. Is Kyler Murray the worst good player in the NFL? If that makes any sense at all. Do you know what I mean?

[Connor Rogers]

Exactly.

[Matthew Berry]

He's the worst good player in the NFL. Yeah, he drives me up a wall and like I wish I could go back in time and take back my ride or die from last year.

[Jay Croucher]

To be fair, he got completely screwed by his receivers against San Francisco. He played well enough to win that game. He's a fine quarterback, but he's a league average quarterback. I think at this point where there were hopes that he would be, you know, a real needle mover, a top eight guy and just haven't really seen that.

[Connor Rogers]

So the card schedule.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, he's sort of middle of the pack. He's fine. Yeah. Quarter on good. But like he has the physical skills to be great. Connor.

[Connor Rogers]

He does, but it's just. How many years did we see the same start over again?

[Matthew Berry]

I know.

[Connor Rogers]

Here's Arizona's schedule. The Seahawks defense, which went absolutely bonkers last weekend, they have them on the shorter week here in week four, that is Thursday night football. Then Tennessee, the Colts and Green Bay before the bias.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, so I misspoke. Obviously, Week five that they have the Titans, so that gets a little bit easier there. Week 6 and at the Colts, then it's Week 7, home to the Packers. So it's a little bit of an easier schedule than I initially mentioned. I forgot the Titans game. I apologize.

[Jay Croucher]

Quick context as well. People might be surprised. Cardinals are underdogs at Home to Seattle, which isn't a great sign for where that team is right now. I understand they're banged up in the secondary, the Cardinals, but Seahawks are really banged up in the secondary too. I think Seattle's just the better team than Arizona right now.

[Matthew Berry]

It's a pretty thin week on the waiver wire. Again, Trey Benson is the clear shining star. That's the guy that you go and be aggressive to go get. But he's only available in about 48% of the league. So about half the leagues out there. He's already rostered. And so if you are not able to get Benson or if he's already rostering the league, there's not a ton of running backs that I love but here are some deeper league stashes that I think we're interesting there. So you see Benson obviously at the top of your chart there. We talked about Blake Corum on Monday, Connor about like just how explosive he looks and clearly given the fact that Kyron Williams has mistimed in every year of his his pro career, Blake Corum needs to be there. Woody Marks I think is interesting. 49% of the snaps in week three, only one fewer snap than Nick Chubb. It's been trending all the way up and just to the eye test. He looks like he's got some juice in a way that Nick Chubb just doesn't.

[Connor Rogers]

Right. That no one else in this backfield does. They're just looking for any kind of splash from youth and Woody Marks is a good pass catcher. And the Texans right now they can't protect CJ Stroud where they might have to get some of those dump offs working.

[Matthew Berry]

Ollie Gordon, I thought Jay looked good on Thursday night. Now some of that may have been because listen, Thursday night game. Achan had had a big workload the previous week so they may want to get especially on the road at Buffalo. They may have wanted to get Gordon moving a little bit more because they didn't want to, you know, just on a short week give all that much work to Achan. But still I thought he, I thought he looked the part and when they get in close they're using him. He's got 75% of the dolphins goal to go rushing attempts this year, 67% of their red zone rush attempts. And I thought he looked good enough on Thursday night against the the Bills last week that he's earned kind of a probably a bigger role. Hn still going to be fine.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

But I do think Ali Gordon needs to be rostered in more leagues.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, I think so. I worry a little bit that the Bills rush defense just might not be very good given what Baltimore did to them in week one. And Baltimore haven't been able to generate much at all on the ground in the past two weeks though. Going up against a couple good run defenses. Yeah, with Ollie Gordon, he's going up against the jets which is pretty favorable of a matchup. There's not many games where the Dolphins are going to be two and a half three point favourites, so this a good matchup for Ollie Gordon.

[Matthew Berry]

Rounding out that list, Kareem Hunt. Look, nothing exciting here, but he's getting almost 50% of the Chiefs running back touches through games, including all their goal line attempts. When they get in close, Cream Hunt's the guy they use and 46% of the team's running back touches through three games. Chris Rodriguez active in this game. I know that Jeremy Nichols had the, had the, you know, the splashy run touchdown. Of course everyone loves Jakory Crosby Merritt, but Chris Rodriguez is involved offense. He actually led the Commanders with 11 rushes in Week 3, including two goal to go rush attempts. It was a weird game where they got out big and the Raiders made a run to make it a little bit closer than this. The game wasn't as close as the score indicated the Commanders were so that may have affected that somewhat. But it's going to be a three headed committee and McNichols looks like he's the more. McNichols is probably the closest comp to Echler in this offense and Rodriguez and JCM so it's a three headed monster. So Chris Rodriguez and Jeremy McNichols Oscar asks I have Kyron Stock. Should I drop Tootin for Corum?

[Connor Rogers]

I want to see your bench Oscar. That that's the decision. Like there's no one worse than Bashal Tutin to drop. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't want to drop Bashal Tootin right now, but if you have Kyron Coram as one of the most valuable handcuffs in the entire league.

[Jay Croucher]

Jacksonville's schedule is also about to get a bit more real so they may not be in run scripts as much. I do think though that like in a nutshell I'd much rather have Tootin than Coram, but if you have Kyron, it's really just about injury risk though. So every year, yeah, he does get hurt every year.

[Connor Rogers]

Blake Corum might have four weeks this year where it's like thank God I had Blake Corum.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, I just think Oscar. Like I think Oscar, that's a Good question. That just sort of like a very quick general discussion about roster construction. Generally speaking, like it depends on who else you have. But like I would want to drop almost. Not almost anyone else but like ideally there's somebody else that you can drop for Corum while still keeping Tutin. You want to protect that. That LA Rams starting running back. But we think in terms of the backups, there may be no person that has as much upside as Baychal Tutanki. The explosiveness we've seen through three weeks. So if you've got like a Nick.

[Jay Croucher]

Chubb type, I'd rather drop him than Bashaltutin.

[Matthew Berry]

And the other thing that I would say here, Oscar, it sort of depends on how deep your league is. My guess is it's not. I guess this is an 8 or 10 team league if he. Right. But in a scenario where you're in more of a shallow league, I would not make this move. Yeah. Which is that in essence, like I'd rather kind of roll the dice that Kyron stays healthy all year and then you in Bashaw Tootin pops as opposed to just sort of locking it. I'd rather roll that dice. But in a super deep league where there's kind of nothing on the waiver wire, I think I would rather have Quorum because in an event where Kyron goes down and Tutin hasn't established a full time role, then you're. There's nothing.

[Connor Rogers]

You're sunk.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, we sunk. So it's a little bit of like sort of league context. And. And by the way, are you two and one and three and oh. Or are you oh and three? Like also how, how patient can you be or how aggressive can you be? So all those things go into it when people ask questions. The more details you can give us, the better it goes.

[Connor Rogers]

Let's jump into the wide receivers here. We start with Darnell Mooney, who's still available in 55% of leagues because he started the season out injured. But Darnell Mooney is back and as we see there there Jay the target share phenomenal 11 targets in a game that the Falcons passing offense was absolutely miserable.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah. So the Falcons, who are a bit of a disaster at the moment, but from a fantasy perspective, they're very easy team to understand in terms of their usage. Like from the receiving perspective, it's Drake London, it's Darnell Mooney and it's Kyle Pitts. And then Ray Ray McLeod gets cycled in for his Ray Ray McLeod stuff. And then the running back, it's Bijan Robinson and then Algier will come in every second series and take about half the work on that series. But with Darnell Mooney, I think it just comes down, Connor, to like, do you think that Michael Penix is going to turn the corner?

[Connor Rogers]

I do. I believe in the talent. I think the scheme has not been great this year. I don't know what they're trying to do, quite frankly for a quarterback that throws the deep ball really well. The offensive line has had some problems as well. And Penix didn't play well. There's no way around it. He didn't play well last weekend.

[Matthew Berry]

It was a disaster. Yeah, I mean, I mean like against Carolina.

[Connor Rogers]

Right. I mean just oddly don't play well against.

[Matthew Berry]

And what the craziest part, like it's one thing to not play well. I mean like he had no touchdown. They got shut out.

[Connor Rogers]

Right.

[Jay Croucher]

He lift them up last year when they play.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Jay Croucher]

So why is this happening now?

[Matthew Berry]

They got shut out and they're not going to do this. But the fact is, is in the post game press conference and so far this week Raheem Morris has been asked legitimately, are you considering a switch back to Kirk Cousins? And regardless of what the answer is to which he's so far Raheem Morris has been like, no, no, no. Panic says, okay, but the fact that that's a legit question, the fact that that's not some, some kid trolling, but that's like you understand why they're asking that question. When you get shut out at Carolina, it's, you know, I mean it brings up all questions.

[Connor Rogers]

I fired their receiver coach this week.

[Matthew Berry]

I'm sure we're going to get into this the next segment but like I will tell you, I got cut in a guillotine league this week because I had like, I loved my team but Michael Penix was my quarterback. I'm like, jaden Daniels is out. Somebody beat me to Mariota. So it's, it's like, all right, Michael Penix, you know, against Carolina, Malik, my two wide receivers, Malik Nabors and Zay Flowers. My starting running back, Chase Brown, like I got less than 20 points from four players and that was all she wrote. Johnny Dangerly, definitely one of the regulars. Asks Darnell Mooney or Cedric Tillman going forward. That's a great question. I think I'd rather Cedric Tillman club said I feel better about his role, I feel better about his talent and weirdly I feel better about his quarterback at the moment.

[Connor Rogers]

In the short term, that's exactly right. I think what you're worried about, you can't think in long term, in fantasy, like you probably have to win weeks right now. The problem is I have confidence that Penix and Mooney are going to turn it around at least the second half of October. Where in the second half of October is Dylan Gabriel playing?

[Matthew Berry]

Right.

[Connor Rogers]

It's like what happened? The club said, well, they have a rookie third round quarterback and they're trying to figure it out.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, but don't you think 1000% Flacco would be. If Flacco loses the job, it's going to be a downgrade. Although I will. Like they're one and two, you know, they're, they're, they're one and two and with a decent field goal kicker, they're two and one.

[Connor Rogers]

Right. I mean they might have the best defense in football.

[Jay Croucher]

Yes.

[Connor Rogers]

Like I just watched that tape yesterday. I'm like, this is potentially the best defense.

[Matthew Berry]

And I would argue again, like I said, like they lost week one to Cincinnati because of their field goal kicker now.

[Connor Rogers]

Right.

[Matthew Berry]

There's, there hasn't been a lot that Joe Flacco has done where you're being.

[Jay Croucher]

Like, well, he's pretty bad in weeks.

[Connor Rogers]

The running interception was a comedy.

[Jay Croucher]

He was bad, but he was outside of that, he's okay. Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

I still think again, we're not in practice. We're not seeing what Dylan Gabriel and Shadur Sanders are doing right now. And so my point is, is like I'm not sitting here trying to. All jokes aside for, you know, I'm not trying to tell you that I think he's great, but I think it's, you'd be hard pressed. Again, we're not seeing what's going on in practice, but given on what they've done on the field so far, I have to believe that Kevin Stefanski believes their best chance to win is still with Joe Flacco under center. Given, given everything we know so far.

[Connor Rogers]

Why make that move now? You just beat Green Bay.

[Matthew Berry]

Just beat Green Bay.

[Connor Rogers]

Most people think it's the top three team in the sport.

[Matthew Berry]

A thousand. And that's what I'm saying is, okay, fine, he was bad in week two, but my point is he played well enough in week one that they should have won that game and he played well enough in week three that they did win against what many people consider to be the best defense in football. Now they're on the road to Detroit next week. So, you know, Detroit defense had just made Lamar Jackson look human except for junk time. Not that I'M bitter. We'll get to that. Yeah, I'm sure we will. But anyway, Johnny Dangerly, I would say Cedric Tillman, I get the thing.

[Connor Rogers]

But like, oh, right now I am absolutely. If it's a start Set question, it's club set.

[Matthew Berry]

It's Club said. But he's asking who would you rather have on your roster right now. And I still think Club said, because I just think that they're not going to if Dylan Gabriel becomes the starter, it's going to be because they think he's an upgrade over Joe Flacco in terms of getting being able to run this offense and pass because Stefanski wants to throw the ball like they want to. They want to run Judkins and set up play action and so whatever. I got a soft spot for, club said. And also, by the way, Mooney, look, 27% target share in week three, 91% route participation since returning. But like he still hasn't, you know, it hasn't translated into fantasy production. He's playing Washington this week, which helps commanders allow the fifth most yards per game on deep passes. So hopefully they go to the tape and they fix it because obviously what went on against Carolina is brutal.

[Connor Rogers]

Our next receiver here, guys, Elik IO Manor, 79% available. I've been begging people to pick him.

[Matthew Berry]

Up since the spring. No question. I got to give you credit. Yeah, you have been on this bandwagon from moment one.

[Connor Rogers]

He has taken over the wide receiver one role in Cam Ward's Tennessee offense right here. And I understand Calvin Ridley still getting targets here, Jay, but you know, the argument's gonna be, well, El Guy Manor's productive right now because he's catching touchdowns. But as a prospect, what El Manor does at his size is catch touchdowns. So that's the point.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, this is a pretty simple one. I've watched almost every snap of this game because I'm a big Colts fan now. Saints are dead to me. Giants have been dead to me for a year. I'm a Colts fan now. I need Jonathan Taylor to do very well this year. But watching the Saints, yeah, the Saints are done. No, no, they're done. That's a wrap. But being a Colts fan and seeing my division rival, the Tennessee Titans, two things. One, Kenwood's good. Like Kenwood's good right now. His the way he uses arm slots and everything is extremely unique. He had the terrible pick six to Kenny Moore, but outside of that, like he's able to move the ball against the Colts. And then the other thing, the simple thing Is that Elik? I'm. Manor looks good. Kelvin Ridley looks terrible. Ward has a rapport with Iron Manor. Ward is going to get better as the season goes along. There's too much talent there. He's going to get more comfortable in the offense. And look, the matchup this week is not great against Houston, but Derek Stingley, banged up like that defense doesn't scare you as much as it perhaps did at a different point in time. So, yeah, I think Alec IO Manor, the reality is he's the number one wide receiver for a quarterback with talent and upside who is growing each week. So I think he should be rostered everywhere.

[Matthew Berry]

Forget the touchdowns. More receptions than Calvin Ridley each of the last two weeks. You mentioned Houston. And they're banged up secondary. Then at Arizona, then at Las Vegas, home to New England. So it's actually pretty nice schedule here over the next four games. And, you know, we always talk about Dwayne McFarland and his utilization score [e-mail] which is a number from the scale of 1 to 100 on how much they get used, like, in terms of route participation and, you know, target share and everything like that. And through three games, Calvin Ridley's utilization score is 57. Elicaya Manor's is 60. Like, fourth round. They're using him more. They are using him more than Calvin Ridley.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, it's been something to watch. I didn't think it would be this early, but here we are. El Kio Manor is here to stay for that Tennessee pass game right now. Once again, 79% available. He's most likely out there in your league. I would spend a good amount of fab on him. Trey Tucker.

[Matthew Berry]

Greg Lau says, mind your AO manners.

[Jay Croucher]

That's Lord of the IO Manor.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, not bad.

[Connor Rogers]

Not bad.

[Matthew Berry]

That's a fantasy football team name.

[Connor Rogers]

We'll keep working on it. Trey Tucker, a name you probably didn't expect to hear. But week three, Trey Tucker.

[Matthew Berry]

Producer Adam thought it was funny. Just, you know, Greg, you had one run. Yeah, there you go. Adam liked it.

[Connor Rogers]

Trey Tucker, 96 available, nine targets. We talked about this Raiders throw script, which was wild in week three. Nine targets.

[Matthew Berry]

Like, what are we doing commanders? Like, what are we. What are we doing? Anyway, he was just burning by people. We talked about this. I know, I know, but still, it's like, you know, the same guy gets deep for three of them. Like, at some point, like, three touchdowns.

[Connor Rogers]

Is absurd for Trey Tucker, but here we are.

[Matthew Berry]

But like, on the season, he's got a 93% rob participation. He's got an almost 20% target share. So he's out there. He is. You know, we always joke about like, you know those guys that run wind sprints. He is literally wanting running wind sprints.

[Connor Rogers]

The cardio king until week three, 1,000%.

[Matthew Berry]

But he has seen an end zone target in every game so far this year, you know, whatever. 33% target share last week and that should earn him more time moving forward. They haven't been able to get the run game going and so the way the Raiders have moved the ball so far this year is on the arm of Geno Smith and obviously Bowers who seems less than 100%. He's gimping around on that leg and you've got Jacoby Myers. But Tucker is their deep threat and so it is going to be a little bit boom or bust. But playing the Bears this week at home, I mean like vulnerable secondary, you can throw deep. Especially assuming Jalen Johnson's not playing. I can't imagine he's back.

[Connor Rogers]

That might be the most ridiculous graphic we've aired.

[Jay Croucher]

Just lapping.

[Connor Rogers]

But it's like Trey Tucker by 16 points, wide receiver to Garrett Wilson.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah. Had a thousand million percent more fantasy points than Jamar Chase. Yeah. It's a little, oh, believe me, a little absurd.

[Connor Rogers]

Let me ask you this. Do you think Trey Tucker scores 40 points in next three weeks?

[Jay Croucher]

Does he score 40 points? No. He does, but. No, I take that.

[Connor Rogers]

I don't think so either.

[Jay Croucher]

I take the under easily.

[Matthew Berry]

Might take. Might take the under. But do I think, do I think like he's a guy that has that, that can make your week in one play? Yeah. And do I think over the next three weeks, do I think that there's at least one game where Trey Tucker catches a 60 yard touchdown. Right. And winds up with like 16 fantasy points for the game and it's like.

[Connor Rogers]

A, you know, amazing. Best ball player, 1000% wish I knew that in the spring.

[Jay Croucher]

He's like bad, tame. Gabe Davis is how I think of him.

[Connor Rogers]

We got another comment here, guys. This one from Derek Ryan Tucker, or.

[Matthew Berry]

I assume you mean Troy Franklin, Trey Tucker or Troy Frank. I think that is a good question. I think I'd probably still rather Troy Franklin.

[Connor Rogers]

Me too. Just because he had a slower week. He's still out there.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Jay Croucher]

He still got all the snaps. He just didn't get the production. But the underlying stuff was still there. So Troy Franklin.

[Matthew Berry]

I think there's a scenario where Troy Franklin or the second half of the year that Troy Franklin is the. Is the number two person on that offense behind Cortland Sutton. I think there's a scenario where Tucker's fourth behind Bowers Genty and then Tucker is fourth. So I understand the question. It's close, but. And against Chicago this week, I might. I might start. Might start Tucker. Denver's home to Cincinnati, actually, you know, but anyway, so probably starting Franklin. But yeah, I like the question.

[Connor Rogers]

Now we enter desperation play territory. Christian Kirk is 66% available. There really hasn't been a lot to love about the Texans offense outside of.

[Matthew Berry]

Nico Collins, but Christian Kirk is always.

[Connor Rogers]

66% available and he did have eight targets, but he doesn't even walk away with six fantasy points. I mean, I guess the question really for me is to you, Matthew. Do you think things are going to get better for this passing attack that can't protect C.J. stroud? And when they do, if it's not to Nico Collins, it just never really looks pretty.

[Matthew Berry]

Feels like it almost has to. I mean, look, this is more of a desperation I could see him being when we get to fantasy football pregame this Sunday in Dallas, Texas. By the way, Jay Croucher. Yes, sir. Myself, you, George Severicis and Lawrence Jackson will be in Dallas, Texas at Texas Stadium as we prepare for football night in America. Of course, the game next week. Packers Micah Parsons return to Dallas, but fantasy football pregame will also be on set next week. And when we do our desperation plays, I could see Christian Kirk being one of those.

[Jay Croucher]

You made seven points.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah. Well, listen, Titans bottom 10 in terms of most yards allowed to the slot so far this season. Again, he did get a decent amount of targets in. Something has to give with this passing offense. Yeah, I don't think they'll be able to run against the Titans. So I do think Kirk, you know, it'll be second. Second week back. They've got to change something up, right? You know, because it's clearly not working so far. I will say so. After Tennessee, they're at Baltimore and then they have a buy. I have to believe that the bye week is where they really try to like get everything fixed because it does. It looks like a disaster so far.

[Jay Croucher]

It does. I think we're getting. There's still some shine on the CJ Stroud name because he was so amazing in his rookie season and then bowled out in the playoffs as well that year. But I think we now have. We have a year and three games of evidence that Stroud, like most quarterbacks in the NFL, probably can't overcome a Poor context around him. Like the absolute. The bosses in the NFL, like Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, just put them out there and they will figure it out. Like, if you put C.J. stroud on Indianapolis, I'm sure he'd be fantastic.

[Connor Rogers]

Oh, I agree.

[Jay Croucher]

He'd be amazing. But he's got a bad offensive line, he has one receiver and he has no running backs who move the needle. And I just. I don't think this is going to get. I think it's going to get a little bit better because Nico Collins is so good and Stroud is better than this, I think. But I don't think this is going to turn the corner that much.

[Matthew Berry]

It's a new offense coordinator for sure. But there's nothing. There's nothing that makes you feel like it's going to suddenly be two years ago. It's going to be C.J. stroud's rookie year. Just. There's. There's nothing there that, you know, just in every week where they struggle, I feel like CJ Stroud just gets more in his head. Just gets more and more spiral and. Yeah. Spiraling. Like it just. Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

All right, before we move to Sterling shepherd, who's next on our list, got a little update here from Jenna Lane, who covers the Bucks for espn. Source tells me Mike Evans has a moderate hamstring strain. Three to four weeks.

[Matthew Berry]

It doesn't sound moderate. I have to be honest with you. Three to four weeks is what he had last year. So this is a bummer. Mike Evans is on my team in our show league. We're going to get to that.

[Connor Rogers]

But at least you haven't had Andrew.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, exactly. So. But this is just tough, obviously. Look, you know, I mean, I think. And that brings us, by the way, to Sterling Shepard. Obviously, we know a Mecca Abuka. There's a chance that Chris Godwin comes back this week. There. There were rumors about that. So we will see.

[Jay Croucher]

He's coming back. Otherwise they would have put him on ir. He's going to come back. Him and Wurfs are going to play this week. This is the strangest reporting ever. He's targeting week six. Then why isn't he on ir?

[Connor Rogers]

He's coming back.

[Jay Croucher]

They're both going to play this.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah. Super weird if they don't. But will he be on a limited snap count? I don't know. But the point is that even if Godwin is back, and of course we know Emeka Abuka, but Sterling Shepard is now the number three wide receiver and potentially in some sets, he's the Number two, if Godwin doesn't play a full complement of snaps, he's right now he's third among the Buccaneers wide receivers in target share and route participation. 80% of the routes he's out there running. We like this offense now. They're home to Philadelphia this week, but shepherd is going to be more of the slot guy. I don't like. I don't love him as much outside. I'm just saying if you're in a deeper league, you could and probably have done worse than Sterling Shepard. He doesn't have a ton of upside. He's more of a floor play than an upside play. But the injury to Mike Evans does open up an opportunity for Sterling Shepard, who is already playing more than I think people realize.

[Connor Rogers]

All right, so to recap, Matthew, your top wide receiver waiver targets we broke down Darnell Mooney who's available in about half a league. Alec IO Manor, who is still almost at 80% CH your league. If he's out there, there's a lot of players you'd probably drop for him. Trey Tucker, monster weak, but there is a role in this offense. Christian Kirk, Sterling shepherd, some deeper ads of course. Luther Burden Tyquan Thornton got a lot of deep looks in Kansas City's offense.

[Matthew Berry]

He's got 53% of the team's air yards this season. The Chiefs do. Jalen Tolbert is likely to be Dallas number two wide receiver while our friend CD Lamb is out. He had five different games with at least 12 fantasy points in 2024. Parker Washington very quietly, I don't know that he's great, but he did have a 29% target share last week. He actually leads the team in targets per route this season. With Brian Thomas Jr struggling with Travis Hunter's role sort of all over the place, it does seem like there's a little bit of a rhythm there between Trevor Lawrence and Parker Washington. Torrey Horton has now scored in back to back games. Obviously he also had the return for a touchdown. A lot of speed. It's been up and down for Cooper Cup. We know JSN is the lead of this offense, but their passing offense seems a little bit better as well. I think it depends Jay, on what you're trying to accomplish this week in terms of hey, do I just need a spot start? We think has a decent matchup. Sterling shepherd potentially. But then if you're like no, no no, I'm just trying to look for somebody to stash that could pop in the second half. Luther Burton is somebody whose routes have increased Every single targets and routes have increased every week. Played 31% of the snapshot. I feel like it's only a matter of time. Borges, clearly the number three and potentially the number two in Chicago. Horton is another guy that I think Tolbert would be more of a, like a this week guy. Tyquan Thornton, more of a this week guy, you know. So it sort of depends on what you're looking for when you go to waivers, whether it's somebody you need just this week or just, you know, some bench depth that might possibly pop in a little bit.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, I think Horton's an interesting one because the Seahawks haven't played a normal game this season. They've all been weird. Like they never had the ball against the Niners in week one. Week two was a game decided by Caleb Johnson not understanding the kickoff rules. And it was just bizarre interceptions, that one. And they beat The Saints like 100 to nothing last week. So it just wasn't a real game. So I think there are going to be more games where the Seahawks do have to actually drop back and pass a bit more. And it can't just be JSN for everything. It can't be like, you have to throw it.

[Matthew Berry]

Other people. It might be.

[Connor Rogers]

No, I know you mean take them away.

[Matthew Berry]

Mooney and IO Minor, by the way, are both starts for this week and potentially people that we think will do even better as the season goes on and they get more familiar with their offense. I'm told in my ear that we have breaking news.

[Connor Rogers]

We do have breaking news as we move to the quarterbacks. That's right, the Giants are making the switch. Jackson Dart will make his career debut starting debut on Sunday against the Chargers.

[Matthew Berry]

Bolt up.

[Connor Rogers]

Talk about throwing the kid into the fire.

[Matthew Berry]

He is a priority on the waiver wire for leagues where he's available. You know, I will tell you like he is. I just think Connor, what we saw in the preseason, like the mobility he brings. I mean, listen, they've been running Russell Wilson. They've been running Russell Wilson in terms of like, in terms of how that Giants offense goes or putting him on design runs. And so Dart, who is.

[Connor Rogers]

Which looks great.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, but I mean, but like, he's. That's the offense. But it'll look.

[Connor Rogers]

It'll look much better with Dart.

[Matthew Berry]

That's my point.

[Connor Rogers]

100%.

[Matthew Berry]

That's my point is that like, design quarterback runs are part of the offense that Brian Daboll is running this year. And so Jackson Dart, who is younger, faster, looks, you know, more athletic than Russell Wilson does at this stage of his career. Like I think Dart is going to be a borderline top 12 fantasy quarterback. Yeah.

[Jay Croucher]

How good do you think he's going to be from the get go?

[Connor Rogers]

I just worry about the schedule. I think he'll be fine against the Chargers and the Saints and then I just think he goes to the Lions den with the Eagles, Broncos, Eagles, Niners. That's just where I look at and go like, like from a fantasy perspective I'm not he the upgrade over Russ. I have no questions about Russ is not throwing in the middle of the field. Russ is not the same athlete anymore that Dart is. So he's going to be an interesting one. I think he's really valuable in two quarterback leagues. I don't know if he'll crack QB1 territory consistently over the next six weeks. I don't, I don't. The Giants right now like they have problems bigger than this and is Andrew Thomas on a pitch count still? Because that matters a lot. Can they develop the run game with Scatter boo now that Tyrone Tracy is out?

[Matthew Berry]

Maybe Tyrone Tracy's out for, you know, multiple weeks.

[Connor Rogers]

When teams take away Malik neighbors do you have an answer because you didn't have one against Spags and the Chiefs it was like oh, they took away Malik neighbors. Well now we can't do anything. That can't be the case.

[Matthew Berry]

No, it can't be the case.

[Connor Rogers]

And maybe Dart helps those things.

[Matthew Berry]

I think, I think that's the argument. Like you listen Brian Dable has to do something. He's 03. They're fighting for their jobs here. This is a desperation and by the way, so Russ looked good against the Cowboys but then Caleb Williams looked like, you know, the second coming of Tom Brady and you know, Joe Montana peak Patrick Mahomes like I mean so you know the Cowboys this might be, you know, one of the bottom five defenses in the NFL. I mean I think so. So on Saturday Night Football get going.

[Jay Croucher]

On if he doesn't light up the Cowboys it's big trouble for the Are you surprised?

[Matthew Berry]

I'm all over the place but it's 47 and a half is the line for packers like like I don't know how the Cowboys score against the Packers. No CD Lamb. No CD Lamb and given like can.

[Jay Croucher]

Be 40 to 8.

[Matthew Berry]

Is that what it is? It might be.

[Jay Croucher]

I remember the last time I think the last time packers went to Dallas is that playoff game where they scored a million points and Dak threw a million interceptions.

[Matthew Berry]

I wonder what they ran total.

[Connor Rogers]

It's going to be for Green Bay.

[Matthew Berry]

They ran totals all over them in that playoff game. Aaron Jones was awesome.

[Jay Croucher]

Was it 47 and a half?

[Matthew Berry]

So it's 47 and a half.

[Jay Croucher]

Seven point line. So yeah, 27, 20. It's the projected final score by the market.

[Connor Rogers]

I think Dallas can get to 20 in that game. Green Bay corners have been surprisingly good.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

But I. The problem is, of course no CD is the issue. So can Javante Williams keep the run game going?

[Jay Croucher]

I don't think so. I don't think he can.

[Matthew Berry]

The Browns were able to run on them and, and I mean, listen, Jalen Tor is not terrible. Like, he's not CD Lamb. No one is. But like it's not like, you know, anyway, like Pickens could get deep for one. All right, maybe Zach's in trouble. We'll talk ourselves into it. I got a weed. Of course you guys are going.

[Connor Rogers]

You have to talk yourselves into this.

[Matthew Berry]

Listen, it's going to be an amazing atmosphere. Micah's return, like it's going to be unbelievable. I mean there's a reason, like NBC isn't stupid. There's a reason why we're all going there because it is a game of that importance. It is that big. I think everyone is, you know, disappointing. Obviously that CD Lamb won't be there, but it's still going to be an incredible atmosphere. And Dak Prescott is playing awesome. Like the cowboy struggles are not on Dak Prescott.

[Jay Croucher]

To me he's been fun. He's just.

[Matthew Berry]

He lost CD Lane. I mean, like. Anyway, back to. Back to Jackson Dart here. I think Jackson Dart is again in a super flex league. Yeah. I think Jackson Dart is similar to Trey Benson, which is. This is a. If he's available. This is a blow your budget. This is use your number one waiver pick. I think Jackson Dart is going to be that good fantasy wise. I think the jury's still out on terms of how good he will be in the real world. You know, I mean given all the weapons around him and what he does and does not have. But yeah, I mean, I think Jackson Dart's going to be a really good fantasy quarterback. And again only in a two quarterback league or a super flex league. But I do think, because I don't know that there's going to be another quarterback that comes into the league that has that kind of upside.

[Connor Rogers]

Like when Gabriel or Shadur start, they don't run like him.

[Matthew Berry]

No, I mean that's. Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

I mean, you know, Tyler Schuck isn't going to be. Doesn't have the athleticism.

[Matthew Berry]

I mean, is there. Yeah. I mean, no. Look, I mean, like, Mariota would be up there if for some reason Jayn Daniels is going to miss a significant amount of time.

[Jay Croucher]

Doesn't seem like you.

[Matthew Berry]

It doesn't seem like he will. I will. However, speaking of that breaking news, just got this in. Speaking of the commanders, the Bleach Nation fantasy app is awesome, by the way. But at. And it just gives you all these alerts. Free. It's a free app. No. Adam Schefter. Adam Schefter is reporting. Terry McLaurin, Washington wide receiver uncertain to play Sunday vs Atlanta due to his quad injury. Per source. Still seeking more information about the injury. But Terry McLaurin now his status is in doubt. We don't know if Jaden is back officially yet. And now McLaurin might be out. For my commanders, here's a question for you. Sigh.

[Connor Rogers]

I think this is one of my better questions.

[Matthew Berry]

Yes, sir.

[Connor Rogers]

Say, in Super Flex, you've been starting Russell Wilson. You don't drop him, right? What if the Giants trade him somewhere? Or do you. Do you think that he's not roster worthy anymore? Because he obviously is not playing this week.

[Matthew Berry]

Obviously.

[Connor Rogers]

But they have Jameis. If they need a backup. The Giants should trade Russell Wilson.

[Matthew Berry]

The Giants should absolutely trade Russell Wilson. They should trade him to Cincinnati.

[Connor Rogers]

100%.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

Jamar, Chase T. Higgins. We'd never be more back. Yeah, I think I. I think I might hold if I can.

[Matthew Berry]

If.

[Connor Rogers]

If he's just obviously after the deadline.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, I mean, it depends on what you have, but, like, no, I don't hate that there's enough quarterback needy teams out there. Like, I mean, like, could Cleveland make a trade for him?

[Connor Rogers]

They're just going to ride it out with all the young guys they have. They already have enough quarterback headaches to.

[Matthew Berry]

Figure out they're one and two. I mean, maybe I got Joe Flocka. What about Minnesota? Like, if J.J. mcCarthy. Do you think they think Russell Wilson's an upgrade over Carson Wentz?

[Jay Croucher]

I don't think he moves the needle.

[Matthew Berry]

Probably not.

[Connor Rogers]

I think it's Cincinnati.

[Jay Croucher]

It's Cincinnati. Oh, Boston.

[Connor Rogers]

Cincinnati's season is still there.

[Matthew Berry]

They're two and one. Yeah, they're two and one. Does Russ pack his bags and go across the city?

[Connor Rogers]

No.

[Matthew Berry]

Stop it. No. Wow.

[Connor Rogers]

They could have signed him. They signed Justin Fields.

[Matthew Berry]

I know, but now.

[Connor Rogers]

But now I think Tyrod is better than Russ.

[Matthew Berry]

All right.

[Connor Rogers]

It's close.

[Jay Croucher]

Wow. Russ isn't good anymore.

[Connor Rogers]

I mean, is it hot of a take?

[Jay Croucher]

No.

[Connor Rogers]

All Right, let's add to the next quarterback here.

[Matthew Berry]

I totally derailed the show.

[Connor Rogers]

Nice job by me.

[Matthew Berry]

It's usually what I do. Yeah. Stay in your line. Stay in your lane. I don't know. But didn't Aaron Glenn open the door? Didn't he not commit to Justin Fields.

[Connor Rogers]

Because he likes Tyrod?

[Matthew Berry]

Okay, yeah. All right. Maybe like. But not. He didn't know not.

[Connor Rogers]

Let's ride territory in Florham Park. Let's go to tight ends for people that need help here.

[Matthew Berry]

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[Connor Rogers]

Or Worse Lands, which people are still waiting for. Yes, a lot of questions about worst lands. Tight end waiver targets for week four. Breton Strange, Chigaconquo Isaiah likely working his way back from injury. Dalton Schultz makes the list. And then the rookie, Rondae Gadsden here.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, he was targeted on 47% of his routes in the season debut last week. Gadson. The Chargers don't really have a tight end. You know, Disley hasn't really stepped up. Or Conklin. So Gadson, who I always liked at Syracuse, talented player. So he's getting a little bit more. We talked about Breton Strange. Just, you know, listen, if you. If you need a tight end, go get yourself some strange. At least 59 receiving yards in two or three games this year. As we've talked about, Travis Hunter playing time, inconsistent Brian Thomas, they just can't seem to get on the. Get on the same page there as well. We went so much on Jackson Dart real quickly. Geno Smith is the other. If you need a quarterback this week, Geno Smith is available in over 72% of leagues. And then, you know, we're waiting to see whether Fields and Daniels come back this week, but there might be another week of Marcus Mariota against the Falcons 4. Oh, another revenge game for Marcus Mariota against the Falcons 4.

[Connor Rogers]

Every week you got one.

[Matthew Berry]

When do we play Tennessee? Philly.

[Jay Croucher]

Philly's on the schedule.

[Connor Rogers]

They end up playing Oregon. Somehow.

[Matthew Berry]

We don't know how this happened anyway, but Mariota and Tyrod Taylor at Miami. Tyrod at Miami would also be pretty interesting too, if Fields can't go this.

[Connor Rogers]

Week or Miami giving up 29 points to quarterbacks in fantasy per week. That's a lot of points.

[Matthew Berry]

So maybe you get more anyway if you picked up Mariota and Tyrod this week, maybe hang on to him just to see if you can get it. You see your waiver targets there. You got Geno. We mentioned Mariota and Tyrode. Jackson DART available in 95% of leagues and I would guys, I would move him over Geno Smith to me. I would. If I if I needed a quarterback this week, if I needed a quarterback for the rest of the season, give me Jackson dart over Geno Smith or any of these guys this week or for the rest of the year.

[Connor Rogers]

If you're looking to make an IR stash, keep an eye on Brandon Aiuk, Jalen Coker and Taje Spears, all working their way back from injuries. And of course, if you watch today's show, you probably have to drop somebody. No secret here. You could drop Joe Burrow. It's going to be a long time before we see him again. CJ Stroud they just can't get it going through the air. Tyrone Tracy is going to be out a couple weeks with a shoulder injury. Joe Mixon there's no timeline there. It feels like Caleb Johnson hasn't been effective enough. He just doesn't really play on regular offense. Braylon Allen is a non factor in the jets offense right now and Evan Ingram's been hurt and when he was playing, he wasn't really doing anything as well.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah. So anyway, welcome to Dumpsville, population U One question for you. When you say Bray Allen's been a non factor in the jets offense, how do you tell that from the other players in the jets offense?

[Connor Rogers]

That's a good one.

[Matthew Berry]

Just asking.

[Jay Croucher]

Savage.

[Connor Rogers]

Don't worry, we have plenty for you. On the next segment, we'll talk about our fantasy league as we head to break here. When we're back, we got a Monday Night Football recap. Ravens, Lions, an update on our fantasy league right after this.

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[Connor Rogers]

How to win a football game.

[Matthew Berry]

Is that right there?

[Connor Rogers]

The M.O.

[Jay Croucher]

Is at the DVD.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, I know.

[Jay Croucher]

I don't know, man.

[Matthew Berry]

I guess it would be pretty close to that, but it was also. This is the type of game. This is the type of game that was needed for this opponent. Not everyone is gonna always be the same. Some games it takes more explosives, you know, you gotta get more explosives than it does just true groundwork.

[Connor Rogers]

That was Lions coach Dan Campbell. And boy, was he right. It takes some explosives. The Lions win 38 to 30 in an absolute kind of shootout on Monday night.

[Matthew Berry]

Oh, this game was brutal.

[Connor Rogers]

This game was awesome.

[Matthew Berry]

What do you mean?

[Jay Croucher]

It's a great game, man.

[Matthew Berry]

No, phenomenal. Yeah, you looked at it from. From a different perspective than I did.

[Connor Rogers]

Sonic and Knuckles. I looked at it.

[Matthew Berry]

I looked at it from the perspective of needing Jared Goff to throw at least one more touchdown pass or Zay Flowers that even have just 40 receiving yards. No, I mean, it just, it was a. It was just a weird fantasy game. Listen, Montgomery obviously was amazing. Just needed him to go down on that last touchdown run like Jared Goff.

[Connor Rogers]

Was hoping for it too.

[Matthew Berry]

No, I know. Go down. Go down. Run it out. Yeah.

[Jay Croucher]

And go corrected himself in the post game. Be fair.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

He was like, I was actually wrong.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

You should.

[Jay Croucher]

You should score there. Say braver. Three timeouts.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah. Fair enough. I'm just, you know, I'm looking at it from a purely selfish fantasy football point, but. Well, you can get into that. But let's get into it right now.

[Jay Croucher]

How's your fantasy attempt going? Like VOSELS Matthew, the two times do you have in three weeks?

[Matthew Berry]

I don't have a lot. Oh, no, I don't have a lot. I finally lio. Look, I. Yeah, I mean, I.

[Jay Croucher]

Explain it away.

[Matthew Berry]

No, I mean, look, I mean, I. Look, I think I, I. It's. What's hilarious is that with 12 minutes left in the fourth quarter, I had a 94 chance of winning. I had Derrick Henry and Sam Laporta. Denny had Lamar Jackson. And you can see the standings there. I'm 03. I'm in last place now. I'm. I'm like. I have more total points than four other teams. I am. And I'm leading the league in points against. But your record is your record. I am owen. I am 0 and 3. Listen, I lost Xavier Worthy in week one. I lost Mike Evans in week three. Derrick Henry has been bad to the last two weeks. Chase Brown's been bad the last two weeks on you. Jane Daniels was hurt last week. When you draft better players, healthier advice.

[Connor Rogers]

We spend an hour every week going over waivers.

[Jay Croucher]

So you said 94% win probability in the fourth quarter. You know what the beauty of fantasy is? Is that doesn't confirm wins or losses.

[Matthew Berry]

No, it doesn't.

[Jay Croucher]

And it doesn't feed families either. Win probability has never fed families.

[Matthew Berry]

No, it doesn't sound terrible. Team, clearly. I mean, I'm 03, thank God, owing.

[Jay Croucher]

3 and not much hope.

[Matthew Berry]

Not much hope? No, not a lot of the way.

[Connor Rogers]

I'm sure the Bengals offensive line will get so much better for Chase Brown.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah. I mean, it's brutal, right? I mean, like again, right? Yeah. I mean, I lost Evans and Worthy in the first two weeks and Jaden Daniels.

[Jay Croucher]

Like, I And claim to lose George Kittle. He's not on your team.

[Matthew Berry]

I mean, like, I have. Like, I'm out of IR spots. What.

[Connor Rogers]

Why don't you make a trade?

[Jay Croucher]

I offered you Brock Bowers for Derek Henry.

[Connor Rogers]

I mean, you talked so much garbage.

[Matthew Berry]

I don't know if anyone will make.

[Connor Rogers]

A trade with you.

[Matthew Berry]

Probably not.

[Connor Rogers]

I would have spite. I would.

[Matthew Berry]

I. Look, I deserve all I have. No, I have. Look. Well, I'm gonna watch the tape. We'll get better.

[Jay Croucher]

We'll learn from.

[Matthew Berry]

We're gonna. We're gonna grind the tape and. But it is. I mean, like, I've just. I've had some bad matchup luck. I've had some bad injury luck and just guys haven't performed. Some of the guys I drafted just haven't performed.

[Jay Croucher]

You know what the worst thing you wanna say?

[Matthew Berry]

Chase Brown was a bad draft pick. Probably. Right. I guess, at this point. Right. He's been bad for two weeks. Bengals offensive line has looked brutal.

[Jay Croucher]

Like, your big issue, too, is that my team's an absolute juggernaut.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, it's good.

[Jay Croucher]

It's unstoppable. I feel like I don't want to. Like, everyone is playing for second. Everyone's playing for second. It's basically a team. It's a bet on health. I'm the Buffalo Bills with Detroit's offensive line. Like, it's. It's scary. I've got Quinton Judkins and Daniel Jones on my bench doing nothing. Tucker Kraft can't get on the field for me.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

You guys should make a trade.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, I don't need anyone else.

[Jay Croucher]

I have all the good players.

[Matthew Berry]

In theory, I have a decent tight end in Sam Laporta. I mean, I. But I mean, it's. Anyway, we'll talk about this game real quickly and then we can circle back to this. But I don't know that there. You know, listen, you're starting Montgomery and Gibbs every week. It was just awesome to see them do this to Baltimore. And that Ravens run defense, which I use in quotation marks there, to me, I think the big story here is the pass catchers of the Ravens. Mark Andrews going off, you know, 6 for 91 and the two touchdowns with a 22% target share, under a 9% target share in the first two weeks. This is most receiving yards in a game since week 17 of 2022. And then, of course, Zay flowers. Flowers. Just two for 13. You know, nice game from Rashad Bateman. You know, this is. His 10% target share was the fourth lowest in a healthy game so far this year saw press coverage Zay flowers did on 34% of his routes. Dan Campbell talked in the post game press conference about that. That was one of their focal points. Was not let Zay Flowers beat him. So I think better days are ahead for Zay Flowers. Mark Andrews is an obvious sell high. It's nice to see him sort of back from the dead. But Mark Andrews is what we sort of is back to what we thought he was at the beginning of this year, which is a touchdown dependent tight end. I don't think the 91 yards are indicative of anything coming soon.

[Jay Croucher]

But like Isaiah Lockley will.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, he's a.

[Connor Rogers]

Might hurt his role though.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, yeah, he's a higher. He's a high end wide tight end too. To me like he's in that, you know, 10 to 14 range where he's sort of like touchdown dependent. But anyway, an incredible performance from the run game. I don't know that you can. They were so effective running the ball that the Lions passing attack just didn't get going. They didn't need to as well. But just want to tell you the Ravens run defense drinks for free because you delivered a lot of fantasy victories for everyone that had Gibbs and Montgomery on their fantasy teams. They just ran all over you guys like run defense should be in quotes there because it wasn't actually a defense.

[Jay Croucher]

Any concern about Derek Henry and this Ravens run game? They've done nothing for two weeks. That just didn't happen last year.

[Connor Rogers]

No, I mean, yes, but I just feel like I'm just not willing to bet against them. I think they'll get it going again. But man, the fumbles have been.

[Jay Croucher]

Fumbles have a very awesome.

[Matthew Berry]

I mean that's what shocking. That's ultimately like. And again, I mean we were on the group chat and I was up against Denny and winning, winning, winning, winning. And then when Henry fumbles on my team minus two points and then all of a sudden now they're in throw script and Lamar gets the by the way, touchdown. I'll tell you something just real quickly, real talk for one second. So I'm in 31 leagues and this week. No, this is true.

[Connor Rogers]

You are in 32.

[Matthew Berry]

I was in 32. Right. So I'm in 31 leagues going into this week. And I went 26, five in those 31 leagues.

[Jay Croucher]

I need this.

[Matthew Berry]

No, no, this is a true story. A 26 and 5. And that's amazing, right? 26. Like I had one of the best weeks of fantasy and yet I'm depressed this morning because I lost to Denny. I lost in another league. I was winning big. And then this person started, Mark Andrews. And you're like, right. And so I lost by three points to that person. And I got cut in two guillotine leagues because I have a lot of the same players. I had Zay Flowers, Malik Neighbors and Chase Brown on two different guillotine leagues and I'll die. And so it's just 26 and 5 and I'm depressed. And that's what fantasy does to you. It's like, I don't care about the 26 wins. I'm bummed about the five that I lost, including. It's all about Denny. Congratulations to Denny.

[Connor Rogers]

We're taking our last break. When we're back, early Line Alert returns our favorite side way ahead of week four.

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[Connor Rogers]

Time for last Call Early Line Alert. We try to get a jump on the weekend's games or even Thursday Night Football. Guys, for me this is a quick one. Give me the Browns getting eight and a half points. I love this Detroit Lions team, but I think the Browns defense is going to keep them in a lot of games. That is a big, big number. I think the Browns can cover the eight and a half. Jay, what do you like?

[Jay Croucher]

I'm going to take Colts Rams over 49 and a half fully bought into the Colts as a top eight offense.

[Matthew Berry]

I'm going to take Seattle getting one and a half on the road against Arizona. I get it. A short weekend on the road, but they are so much of a better team. Arizona is a fraudulent 2 and 1. It is closing time. You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here. Go get yourself some Jackson dart for Jay and Connor. I'm Matthew, by the way. At least my Gibbs bet cash last night. I'm just saying. Peace out. He's Kenny Maine, the funny guy from espn. Formerly he's Cooper Manning, the more intelligent.

[Jay Croucher]

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[Matthew Berry]

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[Jay Croucher]

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[Jay Croucher]

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